Seasonal Affective Disorder

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Cindy Wolverton about Seasonal Affective Disorder.

Episode Transcript

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I don't want to dwell on this, but I did
want to get a pretty full cover on it. There
actually is something to share on the weather scene, as
if anyone in this audience doesn't keep up with such things.
Our generations didn't have fingertip access to Doppler radar. What

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we had was the morning weather reports on the radio
and then the evening forecasts on each of the three
and it was just three until the fancy UHF channels
came along to the three local network television stations. Men
like Doug Johnson and Sid Lasher. I had to look

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these up because I couldn't remember them. I was very
young back then. Tom Evans, Ed Brandon, I do remember
Ed Brandon, and Gene Norman, all of those guys let
us know as much as could be gathered at least
then about what was over the horizon and what was
coming the next day. Short pants or long coat, no coat, umbrella, galoshes,

(03:58):
guy who's got goloshes, still not me. I don't know
that I ever actually bought and owned a pair of galoshes.
I know my dad had them, but I think I
came along at the time when and I was young enough,
when they were still out there that I just jumped
over the puddles. I guess if I was a little younger,
I just jumped right into them. And then in our teens,

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for many of us in the seventies, it was Neil
Frank And unfortunately Neil died just weeks ago on Christmas
Eve without even knowing more than once or twice his
Friday night forecast let me know whether to grab my
fishing rods or my surfboard or both. When I left

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the house early on a Saturday morning, headed for the beach,
there was a southeast wind, light southeast wind incoming tide,
probably going to be a fishing rod in there, good
swell coming off of a storm somewhere else, probably going
to be a surfboard, a little mix of both. Just so,
and it was all I'll take everything I had down there,

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but enough of the past straight ahead of us after
some rain that we really need. By the way, a
few showers move through here today and maybe a little
bit tomorrow morning. Temperatures are going to drop like a
stone high of seventy seven this afternoon, then the low
of fifty six tonight, and then we'll be lucky. According
to one of my favorite forecast sights, we'll be lucky

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if it even stays that warm tomorrow. The actual predicted
high for tomorrow's only fifty five, So technically, if it's
fifty six at about ten minutes after midnight, that may
be tomorrow's high. Temperature just might be five or six
really chilly days on the horizon for a cloudy weekend

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to come, and then maybe some sun on Monday, then
more clouds, then more sun, but not much more rain
at all, if any.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And then there was a stock.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Market which was far more green than red, far more
green than red. This morning early after the algorithmic buying
and selling sort of slowed to a crawl. Gold and
oil on the rise, but not enough to be really
caused for action at present. Gold is interesting, by the way,
especially since I've learned a little bit about how it
works from bread over at Houston Gold Exchange. Our generation,

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yours in mine, if you are anywhere in my wheelhouse.
As age goes, we wore a lot of jewelry. We
wore a lot of chains, and some more pure than others.
Pendants I had. I remember when I was doing a
lot of offshore tournament fishing.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I had one. I bought a small chain.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
And it had about a maybe I bought a two
inch long or so blue marlin pendant to hang off
of that thing, to show how cool I was.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And then I fished off shore lot.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
And then as I would move and turn and do
whatever in clothing, the bill of that marlin would stab
me in the chest and it never drew blood, but
it was just painful.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So I ended up having I found another one that had.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
A little like a little ring, kind of a just
a ribbon if you will, around the actual bill of
that fish and the tail of that fish, so that
the actual the bill that the pointy part wouldn't stab
me again.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let's take a break. Take a break here.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
When we get back, by the way, we've got Cindy,
doctor Cindy Wolverton coming on to talk about seasonal effective disorder,
and it was a different name a long time ago.
We'll discuss that when we kick it off, and then
we'll get into the details on the way out. UT
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Aged to Perfection. This is fifty plus with Dougpike. All right,
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Speaker 3 (08:56):
Land of the Free Free Bird, I guess in Home
of the Gray Well talking to segment. Good gosh, Doug
talking this segment about something called seasonal effective disorder, which
for many years, if I'm not mistaken, was called the
holiday blues or something like that. But since science came
up with that descriptive acronym SAD seasonal effective disorder, it's

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gotten a lot more attention, which is why I'm going
to discuss it today with doctor Cindy Wolverton, a licensed
clinical psychologist and assistant professor at McGovern Medical School, where
she specializes in jero's psychology as it relates to aging
and mental health. Welcome back, doctor Wolverton.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Thank you, Doug. Thank you for having me back.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh it's my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
So right up front, do you recall about when the
holiday blues became seasonal effective disorder?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I think I don't exactly know when that occurred, but
I know there's been, you know, a little bit more
changes with how we defined seasonal effects disorder and you know,
our diagnostic criteria, and that's that's always improving.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, amen to that, And in hindsight, was the early
study of this condition, given the attention it probably deserved
or not.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I bet not.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I think, you know. I think that's sort of the
beauty of research, as we're always trying to improve upon
and you know, do improve our our methods and things
like that, so we can really ensure that we're understanding
these these changes that folks experience a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And what exactly so the audience, if they don't know already,
we'll understand what are the symptoms of seasonal effective disorder specifically,
And let's just stick with November and December for example.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I think when we when we talk
about seasonal effective disorder, it's really capturing these changes that
a person might start experiencing with their moods, so they
might start feeling more down and depressed, but it's it's
very specific to a particular time the year, so that's
typically within like the fall or winter times of the year.

(11:06):
And some common symptoms that folks might notice feeling is
maybe being a little bit more down sad or having
a depressed mood, maybe noticing changes in energy, like feeling
more low energy, you know, changes in their interest or
pleasure and activities that they you know, typically enjoy or
engage in changes in the sleep, weight, appetite, concentration, or thinking.

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So yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
List shows on yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
And the reason I asked it the way I did
is to get to this to let people know that
seasonal effective disorder, it isn't only an issue for the
winter holidays. I would imagine that's when it peaks across
the board, But the same can happen at different times
a year too, can it.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
So there are there's some evidence suggesting that seasonal effective
disorder might also there might be like a folks might
experience these changes more in like the summer or months
that the prevalence of those rates are a little bit lower.
So specypically, we often see the higher prevalence in these
winter months. And there's some reasons why. There's a few

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theories about like the changes in chemicals, the chemicals in
our brain that may be affected by the daylight and
sunlight hours that change changes, you know, throughout the season, right,
and so there's you know, some thoughts about how that
might impact like, you know, the chemicals in our brain.
There may also be other factors like vitamin D levels,

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melatonin changes, as well as maybe the impact of like
any sort of negative thoughts or feelings that might come
up during those particular seasons or about the seasons.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, and especially during the Christmas season, a lot of
people put a lot of pressure on themselves and then
kind of ramp up their own anxiety levels because they
want everything to go perfectly at Christmas, and then if
it doesn't, then it just kind of compounds the problem
done it.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Absolutely, so, you know, I think it is important to
recognize that seasonal effective disorders. It's considered to be different
from that term like holiday blues, right, which I think
was exactly what you're describing as like really sort of
noticing like maybe a lot of added stress with all
the planning or prepping or feeling more overwhelmed at that
time of the year. This the you know, the holidays

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can also be a challenging time for for folks because
it may also be a time when if folks have
experienced losses or changes in their social supports or changes
in functioning that may have an impact on their ability
to engage in the holiday activities like they had previously done.
Might just also be reminders of previous losses, so folks

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might feel a little bit more down also may experience
like feelings of loneliness during the time. And I'm as
you had mentioned, like my area in focusing on mental
health and aging, and so you know, I know the
holidays can be quite a difficult time for folks who
maybe are noticing these changes in their life.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Doctor Cindy Wolverton on fifty plus. I think I know
at least one answer to this question. But what Yeah,
well we already covered that. Never let me get off
of that one, because I don't want to be redund
and we've only got about three minutes left. So is
there a particular age at which you begin to see
more cases of this?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
So we actually see that seasonal effective disorder is more
common or more prevalent among younger age cohorts. And so
when we think about older individuals, I think, you know,
it is important to kind of check in with the
older folks in our lives, you know, to see if
there are if folks are experiencing any changes in their

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mood that might be related to like sort of the
holiday blues. Because I do think even if it is
considered like the blues, we still may want folks to
check in with our doctor or you know, follow up
to ensure that it's not actually you know, becoming a
little bit more concerning and and you know it may

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be depression symptoms that we can intervene with, you know, treatment.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Sure, and to follow up on that. How important is
it that people who feel like they're experiencing this condition,
how important is it to share what they're dealing with
among family members and friends.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's so important, you know. I think the last thing
I would want for someone to feel is that they're
alone in their pain. And so I think being open
to talking with family, friends, their providers is one way
to start to get get support, you know, get the
support that maybe they need, as well as maybe medical

(15:47):
support if they need it. I always want to share,
you know. I think if folks are noticing, maybe they
don't have folks to turn to or share these things with.
If they are noticing, like the you know, these are
symptoms of depression to escal you know, it's increasing. There's
the Crisis Hotline nine eighty, which folks can call. It's
twenty four to seven, and that's one way for folks

(16:08):
to get resources and support that they need if they
don't have someone residently available to talk to.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Somewhat quickly.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Would a primary care doctor be well versed on how
to treat this or should somebody go to a specialist.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I think oftentimes primary care doctors are are definitely able
to screen for depression, screen for any additional concerns, and
then refer out as as needed, send them to you.
I think that's why, yeah, to me, to other providers,
I think that's the you know, talking with your primary

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care doc about these concerns is really important.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Doctor Cindy Wolfurton, thank you so very much for opening
our eyes.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
To this and shedding a little more light on it.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I hope that so I can almost guarantee you somebody said, well,
that's what was going on during Christmas time? So does
it go away in the spring in ten seconds?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I you know, I don't think quite in seconds, but you.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Know, I mean, will it go away? Only ten seconds
left of time for us?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Oh? Okay? You know, I think there's a lot of
there's a lot of treatments and support. So I think definitely,
you know, getting support that you need will help folks
determine if if they yeah, if they'll go away on
its own, or if they need additional support.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Fantastic doctor, Cindy Wolverton, Thank you so.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Much, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
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Speaker 1 (19:16):
What's life without a neat I suggest you go to
bed and sleep it off.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Just wait until the show's over. Sleepy.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Back to Doug Pike as fifty plus continues. Welcome back
to fifty plus. Thanks for listening, certainly do appreciate it.
By the way, I ran across something on social media
during the break that was just basically a pop quiz
with the answers about chickens, and I asked will to
come up with a number of approximate number of how

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many eggs the average hen lays in a year, and
I'll give you a couple of seconds to think about it,
and I think you'll find the answer to be probably
a little bit lower, unless you're a chicken farmer than
your Yes, we'll guessed, as I probably would have three
hundred and sixty give them the chicken five days off

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to maybe maybe have a bad day, maybe just not
be able to lay an egg, But the actual number
is only two hundred and fifty to three hundred. And
I also found out that they that they lay more
eggs in the summer because of the longer daylight period
and fewer in the winter because of the shorter daylight.

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And something I really didn't know was that the color
of their ear lobes, according to this story, dictates the
color of the eggs. White ear lobes, white eggs, red
ear lobes, brown eggs. I don't know if that's all
one hundred percent true because I had no time to

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corroborate it, no time to vet it.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
But it sounds pretty cool and interesting, and it makes
you sound like you know a lot about chickens. I
need to find I'll call my buddy dirked out he
raises chickens. I may have to call him and see
if any of that's true or all of it sliding
into the real news as always about Now, let's take
a look at Jasmine Crockett her run for the Senate,
where even former Saturday Night Live star Bowen Yang on

(21:15):
his last Cool Toista's podcast, the one he hosts with
a guy named Matt Rogers, the two of them pretty
much said it'd be a waste of money to write
a check in support of her campaign. He also expressed
displeasure with Gavin Newsom interesting interestingly enough, noting that quote
anytime a politician is making it too obviously about themselves,

(21:39):
I'm already done end quote. That was what Rogers said,
and Yang agreed, and so do I. Yang also said
he feels kind of silly now in retrospect about supporting
Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think he should.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
And to cap ful week of flipping the news, I'll
switch again from rough stuff to uplifting stuff. Well, the
story the most unusual story about the birth of a
baby that I've ever run across, one that the doctors
who oversaw this said was even much lower odds than
one in a million of this happening. It just should

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have happened. It never turns out right. But because this
is good news, you already know it did. So here's
what's up. Women in Los Angeles learned twenty years ago
that she had two ovarian sists, one of which was removed,
the other left behind for whatever reasons, maybe it was
just too small to worry about.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Or they wanted to watch it.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
In any event, she kind of grew accustomed during the
last twenty years to irregular cycles that she didn't really understand,
and when she noticed this past year a swelling in
her abdomen, she thought, Okay, that must be that cyst
finally starting to grow again. Let me go see about it,
and sure enough it had. Imagine imagine being told that

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your your scan or however they took a look at
it said yeah, it's there, all right, and it's going
to weigh about twenty two pounds.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I don't know how big this.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Woman was before that thing appeared on her belly, but
that swelling she saw was twenty two pounds of ovarian cysts.
Routine pregnancy test prior to removal of that cyst came
back positive.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
You knew that was coming already.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
And low and behold, not one or the other, but
low and behold, a nearly full grown little baby had
attached itself and the amniotic sac was attached to her
pelvic wall. Outside the womb, this nearly full grown fetus
was there. And like I said, since you know it's

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a good news story. You know that baby was delivered
despite all the odds against any ectopic pregnancy. Weighed eight pounds,
near full turn. There were a few complications shortly after
the birth, but they've worked through all of that, and
Mama and Daddy and Babe celebrated their first Christmas this

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past month. I think that's pretty cool. You agree, will
that's a happy.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Time for them? Or do you want to go the
other way? Yeah? Thumbs up. Of course.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I'm gonna skip over this one for a minute. I'm
so tired of talking about it. Maybe hopefully I won't
have to come back to it in hotel affiliation news
that property up north that denied rooms to Ice agents.
Recently this week, the sign showing its affiliation with the
Hilton brand was removed from the premises yesterday. And I

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bet they lost their Hilton napkins. I'll bet they lost
their whatever else. The rug at the front door that
had the big H on it, that's gone. I'm sorry,
but you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes to
share how deeply skewed some Americans views are now in

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regard to what's happening in Venezuela. By the way, I
saw a Facebook reel yesterday in which a young man
Hispanic men was at a rally where people were protesting
our arrest of Maduro and claiming that President Trump had
done something just absolutely horrible that they all they all
had to get together in protest. They all had to
bring their tambourine and bring their microphone, bring their bullhorn,

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and everybody needs to make noise and chant the same
chant whatever it was. And he said, and he panned,
he panned across the whole crowd, just so everybody could
see who everybody was out there. And it wasn't like
it was a mob scene. There weren't thousands of people.
There were dozens of people there. But at any point,

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at one in any event, at one point in that video,
he said, now, what do you notice is do you
notice anything unusual about this video and these people people here?
And he paused, and he said, not one Venezuelan, not
a single Venezuelan, not a single person from that country
protesting what happened in the last week or two. In fact,

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the Venezuelans have been dancing in the streets since Maduro
was arrested. But that's not going to stop paid protesters
over here from getting in the street and jumping up
and down and making a lot of noise to let
us know that they are working really hard for their paycheck.
They get to be out there, very frustrating. I gotta
take a little break here. I'm gonna do that. We'll

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come back to wrap it up on this latest edition
of not I Almost did it again, will it's so
close to Saturday, you know, fifty plus is where we
are am nine to fifty kprc.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Old guys rule, and of course women never get old
if you want to avoid sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, well, I think that sounds like a good plan.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Fifty plus continues. Here's more with Doug Welcome.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Back fifty plus here on AM nine fifty KPRC. Thank
you all for joining. We are going to make our
way through close to ten minutes, Will says, and that's
a long time.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Kind of think back through some of the week and
what's going on and maybe deep dive a little bit more.
I'll go back, for example, to all these ICE protests
that are going on and just dominating the news cycles,
and for the most part on mainstream media been horribly
biased and skewed in their portrayal and their reporting. Increasing

(27:37):
evidence is confirming that well most I can't say all,
because I'm sure there's some locals who want to jump in,
but most of the people who are out there are
indeed paid, paid performers, convinced because they either don't know
better or don't care, convinced to push the limits of

(28:02):
peaceful protests right up to and sometimes over the line.
And the line is pretty clearly explained in the law.
But this violence, outright violence against these ICE agents has
ramped up considerably, and as we saw this week, can

(28:22):
turn out badly Hopefully soon we'll quit blaming law enforcement
for enforcing the law and let them do their jobs.
Let the courts determine how things go. But just just
take a step back, and hopefully we'll get through all

(28:45):
this without anybody else getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
There's just no reason for.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It out In speaking of no reason, well, there is
a reason for this out in California, special enforcement traffic
enforcement program over the holiday and all Californians knew this
was coming unless they were just they had their heads
buried in the sand for some reason. But it was
clearly known that there was going to be special law

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enforcement on the highways, on the streets, on the roads
over the holidays, and their presence they were looking for
law breakers. Their presence resulted in thousands of traffic stops
above and beyond what they normally get, and even a
few hundred DUI arrests, and quite likely a few million

(29:31):
bucks in fines doled out to the speeders among them.
That was the biggest infraction, no surprise there. And I'm
sure they let a few broken tail lights and maybe
no license plate lights stuff like that. I doubt that
they pulled over everybody who was struggling to get by
on whatever's left, and they're walling out. In California after

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buying two gallons of gas, they didn't have money to
put a light back, but they did find themselves a
bunch of speeders. There were thousands, like I said, issued citations,
ninety something of them. I think it was ninety four
doing better than one hundred miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now that's a that's more.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's a few more than I see on a typical
Saturday or Sunday morning coming into work. But I have
seen more than a few people coming up into my
rearview mirror who as they passed me, it's pretty clear
that they're doing triple digit speed.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I don't know where they're going in such a hurry.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I don't know why they have to scare the pants
off everybody else who's on the freeway. And it's usually
small imported sedans. I honestly, there are a lot of
For example, my old, my old days, muscle cars were
Camaros and Mustangs and Challengers, those type GTOs. Those types

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of cars I don't see in Three of those four
I mentioned are still in production today, but I don't
see them typically going by as quickly and recklessly. I
have to say, as the kids in the imports, and
I say kids because most of these drivers, when I
can get even a glimpse of what they look like

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when they go buy me that fast.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Most of of them are.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Most of them are are young men who think that
they can react as quickly as F one drivers, and
they can't. And I'm just glad I haven't been smacked
by one of them.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I really am.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
It's my only advice, based on doing this every week
for the last twenty years. Basically, just stay in your
lane and hold your ground. If you see them coming
up from behind you at a very high rate of speed,
just leave. Leave the diversion to them that you've got
a much better chance than if you try to swerve

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to get out of their way. They'll they probably will
see you and probably will.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Go around you.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Knock on wood for all of us who are out there,
I wish I wish there was some way to slow
them down, I really do, but I don't know what
it would be. Not a drop in a bucket is
what they earned compared to the state's money shortage out
there too.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
By the way, but a bucks a buck, I guess.
Speaking of out in California.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
They've got a proposed five percent exit tax that's designed
if it passes in I think it's November. Uh, that's
designed to it's basically going to tax people above and
beyond what they've already paid in state and federal income tax.

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It's an additional five percent that they're gonna lay on billionaires.
And there are a significant number of billionaires in California
right now, several of.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Whom we've had you we've.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Seen brief stories about them packing up all their stuff,
their entire companies, and shifting gears and getting the heck
out of there and coming over here, going to Florida,
going to pretty much any other state ABC, anywhere but California.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Or New York.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
We're gonna have to add that n ab con why
to get it all correct. They're going to wind up
costing their state, according to what I read, as much
as four hundred billion dollars in equity and private capital.
As the very few folks who have that kind of

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money make their plans and get out before it even
makes it to the ballot, they've tipped their hand. They
want to take more money from the remaining.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
People who have it.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Look really bad if they said, and you, people who
make minimum ways, you're also going to have to pay
your fair share.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
So they don't.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
They're going to pick on billionaires, but those billionaires aren't
going to pay a dime if they can get out
of there before the election. It's just amazing how shortsighted
some of these political decisions are in this country. Sometimes
at the state level. Minnesota hot mess, train wreck, absolute
hot mess, train wreck. Oh, by the way, speaking of

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hot messes, and what Corn Country, Iowa State Treasury, Oh, perfect,
two minutes, I can do this. The state treasury there
launched a program years ago to find the rightful owners
of lost or misplaced assets, mostly just money that got
lost in a bank account and never claimed. Maybe somebody died,

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maybe somebody just bailed out of the state and left
a couple of accounts active. Who knows, but for whatever reason,
Iowa's had this program out there, and almost every state
in the country has a similar program. But for a
while a few years ago, there were so many scams
around these programs that I guess a lot of people
don't believe they're real or want to go looking. Event

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up there in Iowa, there's a website that the state
is now encouraging people to check regularly as part of
their what is it called here to do? It is
the Great Iowa Treasure Hunt. There it is, and over
the years that treasure hunt has returned more than four

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hundred million dollars to their rightful owners, and the state
has an additional six hundred and forty eight million yet
to be claimed. Will you ever been to Iowa? You
ever know anybody who's been to Iowa that thinks you're
a really good guy?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Probably? Yeah, you might want to call him and ask
him to check.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
And what a great favor you've done for them if
they find a million bucks even corner than Iowa. This
one from Louisiana and heard earlier on KTRH, but worth
reporting if you missed it. Forty one year old woman
who opted on a recent night to goes skinny dipping
in a neighbor's pool again wound up being arrested, and

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well because not because she well, partly because she wouldn't
get out of the pool when the officer asked her to,
and partly because she just acted the fool and ended
up scuffling with him. She said she wanted to be
a Mermaid whole thing was just a hot merm mess.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
We'll see you next week. Ideos