June 27, 2025 • 38 mins
Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Shawn Adibi about TMJ disorders. Pike also speaks with Dr. Naru Ikoma about pancreatic cancer.
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All right, here we go, Let the show begin. Huh.
I made a Facebook post a little while ago, actually
about an hour and a half ago. I think it
was to let you guys know what was coming today.
If you missed that, and many of you would have,
I'm sure it's okay. But if you missed it, what
I wanted to let you know is that we are
going to interview two. I have two very good medical
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interviews on tap for today, and I'm really glad to
have them. The first will be in about I don't know,
ten twelve minutes or whatever, and that's going to be
about TMJ temporo mandibular joint disorders. And the second is
going to be with a man that I met on
the golf course, actually, this past Sunday afternoon. He was
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behind me. Did I talked about this a little bit yesterday?
Did I not? Well? Do you recall I don't remember
fair enough. I met this man on the golf course
Sunday afternoon. He was waiting behind me by himself, while
I waited by myself for the three people in front
of me, who deliberately never looked back. I just waved
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this guy up, said hey, man, you want to just
play along because we're not going anywhere. And he said sure,
And he turned out to be You never know who
you're going to meet on a golf courses. I found
this man very fascinating. He's also a very good player.
But we're not going to talk about golf at the
bottom of the hour. We're going to talk about pancreatic
cancer and robotics in the o R. Those are his
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two areas of expertise. He is a pancreatic specialist pancreatic
cancer specialist at M D Anderson. Fascinating guy asked him
some quite a few questions. I'll get to many of
them when we do the interview. His name's doctor nauru Ikoma,
and other than me getting whipped by him at golf
pretty resoundingly, I might add, we've got along great. Hey,
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I know there are a lot of way better players
than me. That doesn't phaze me anymore. I'm still very competitive.
But if I run across someone like him, like the
good doctor, I don't fret over the fact that they're
better at golf than me anymore. I'm way past that.
I try to improve. I practice a good bit. I
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try hard just to get better myself. I don't want
to beat somebody else's score. I want to beat my
own previous score. And that's how I look at golf now.
It's fun. It really is. Oh, another day in paradise,
I guess, And by paradise, I mean there's nothing really
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on the you know what map, well, except I take
that back, there was something on the seasonal you know
what map this morning. But it is a very at
present insignificant yellow offering down far down and very south
of the in the Bay of Campeache. It's just a disturbance,
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it's all it is. There's a little it's kind of
like what we've had for the last couple of days.
I think, but for some reason they chose to put
it on the map. Ten chance of doing something in
forty eight hours, twenty percent chance in the next three
to five days, seven days, whatever it is they have.
But I don't see that thing interfering with much of nothing.
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Hopefully it'll do what tropical Storm Andrea did out in
the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and disappear before probably
fifty people even saw that it was out there. And
by the way, if you're waiting for the big recession
or skyrocketing oil prices or World War three that a
lot of news outlets told you was going to result
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from the November elections, or tariffs or bombing around as
nuclear sites or any such thing, now so are the
rest of us. Nothing bad has happened. In fact, things
are going quite well in this country. Oil price is down,
stock market way up. Americans are optimistic about returning to
a time when Americans were doing things that other countries
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said couldn't be done. In fact, just this morning I
saw a headline keeping in mind the dreadful recession we
were falsely promised. I saw a headline this morning. They're
still at it. They just had to change the narrative said,
we're on the brink of super inflation. They told us
forever it was going to be a recession, and now
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they've just flipped it one hundred and eighty degrees and
they're telling us to brace for super inflation. They just
won't stop trying to scare people. The sky is not falling.
It's going to be okay. And in just one story
after another, depending on where you're looking, you'll find reason
to be equally as optimistic as am I. Oh, there
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you have it, There you have it me. Well, here's
another one. A new news alert news alert from the
Houston Chronicle this morning said the Supreme Courts upheld Texas's
age verification law for porn. I first of all, I
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don't know the circumstances surrounding this case, but whatever they were,
I'm absolutely in favor. I'm absolutely in favor of putting
a putting an age limit on who can watch that
stuff and who can't. I don't want kids looking at
all that and I think most parents would be in
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agreement with me on it got that taken care of.
I didn't want to spend a whole lot of time
on that. If you missed it yesterday, by the way
from the roadblock desk, a story of a woman at
the end of a rope, I guess appears, and she appears,
according to law enforcement, that she deliberately crashed her car
into a big truck and then got out of her
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from somewhere, and then just sat down in the chair,
facing traffic for nearly five hours. She sat there with
the gun in her hand and refused to budge. As
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I don't know why they had to have that many
people out there, honestly, but they did. And fortunately for everybody,
she just refused to budge. She wasn't going anywhere. She
had enough of everything, I guess, and fortunately for everybody involved,
a very skilled negotiator was able to talk her out
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Speaker 1 (10:04):
Aged to perfection. This is fifty plus with Doug Pike here.
Welcome back to fifty plus. I greatly appreciate you listening.
We'll talk in this segment about as promised on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
If you saw the post earlier today about temporo mandibular
joint disorders, the brief briefer version of that which is TMJ,
and it makes sense of yet another topic I really
don't understand. I'll bring in an expert, doctor Sean a dB,
professor at ut Health Houston School of Dentistry. Welcome aboard,
doctor a DBI.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Hello dog, how'd you Friday?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
To you and your listeners?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I appreciate that, I certainly do. You probably remember from
last year that I like to tee up most of
my medical interviews with a definition. What exactly, in briefly,
what exactly is.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
TMJ essentially TMD or tempera mandibulo disorders? Are you know,
symptoms and conditions or malfunction that is related to jaw
joint muscles of mastifications of the jaw, tendons, vasculatures, ligaments,
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all involved including teeth in all involved structures are when
they are symptomatic, painful, or they're not functioning.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Or are they I presume that they have different levels
of severity in different things which are the most common
or maybe the just a yeah, let's start with that.
Which are the most common ones?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, the most common uh, temperamandibulity disorders that the deal
with it today and the clinics are really the muscles
of masticatory problems. So usually patients and people present with
pain and a muscle what we call the myalgia. Often
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the pain is radiated or often it happens that they
do refer to other parts.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Of head and neck.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That is the most I would say maybe six out
of ten of those patients are domesticatory involve muscle pain
and dysfunctions. The next one really to that is those
patients or those conditions related to a disc itself. The
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way that the disk functions allows the jaw to slide open,
and when the disc is painful or diysfunctions, it would
not allow the jar open and essentially disc and condyle
up together in a very fascinated way. And that's the
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second most probable problem that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We have seen. What are the what are the typical
causes for these conditions, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
The causes of them, it varies really to for individuals.
Most of the times, something happens a trauma or something
happens that sort of uh uh, so to speak, the
last road to break the back of the camels. So
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it's sort of everything's fine until something happens. It's you're
choin on a stake a little too long, too much,
you're chowing too much, gom you are sort of a
recent stress environment. You know, you lost a rain in
the family. Something happens and that kind of initiates so
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essentially allows that problem come forward because they work before
not as much bad, but now something happened and that
come in front. So most of the times are trauma.
Sometimes are like an atomic you know, certain individuals.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Have smaller condyle the smile anatomies and a job that
allows them to become deranged more probable than the others do.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So anatomical things are such. Sometimes there are kind of
stamp from some sort of systemic disorders, you know, name
it fiber mayoga, name it rheumatic arth riders or uncontrolled
uncontrolled diabetes or high pretension, so systemic disorders that individual
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might might even bring that up. Also, so the cord
can really varies widely from individual a different age level.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Of course, if something on that list of symptoms and
feelings that you have kind of comes up and then
it goes away by itself. Can we just forget about
it and not worry about it until it happens again?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Interesting that questions because the nature of a TMD is
that they have these waxing and veining natures, unfortunately, and
that's very deceiving.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Individual at some time in their life may be experiencing
some locking good job once or maybe limited opening once
or like clicking sounds once twice, and maybe brief pain,
you know, level of a level of one to ten.
I would say they would experimentis level of a pain
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of three and four and they take some medicines, some
anti inflammatory and it'll go away. And that's kind of
deceiving because there should be an examination done, some investigation
why is it so? And it comes back three or
four months later. Unfortunately a lot of chronic conditions are
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because of this particular incident, and I just brought as
an example, so I think, yes, it needs to be
looked in and should not be ignored. Symptoms are like
not opening wide enough or getting jaw locked or pain
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in a month, so those are very significant symptoms needs
to be investigated.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Really, Doctor Sean adabion fifty plus here asking for most
of my audience, does age have anything to do with
the onset of TMJ.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Well, I think we've seen the different conditions types of
the t MG issues with different ages, for instance and
adolescents and children. We've seen grinding clenching happens a benign
type happens a lot on adult aging around twenty to forty.
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We've seen more frequents of conditions of muscle disorders. Masticated
in muscle disorders happens often more for our elderly populations.
We've seen more frequency of osteoarthritis joined it essentially is
our bondroy model like around the joint that it changes
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the anatomy of the jaw and these individuals usually feel
like a grinding bone to bone on their jaw sound
as they open, which is the highlight of what USDR
to writers would be. Those are the symptoms and conditions
that mostly our elderly populations show more.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Very good. I hate to tell you this, but we're
just pretty much out of time. Doctor showing a dB
on fifty plus, Thank you so very much so. The
bottom line, I guess is if you think you have TMJ,
go to the doctor and find out.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right most likely that's your best bet. Don't ignore it,
and thank you for addressing this on your show, and
have a happy weekend, sir, I.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
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Speaker 3 (20:37):
Welcome back to fifty plus and thanks to doctor Dbe
for his info about TMJ. This past Sunday, while I'm
waiting on a slow threesome in front of me, I
see another guy playing by himself behind me, so I
wave him up and fast forwarding to now, I'm going
to interview this man. His name is doctor Nauru Ikoma
and he is a surgeon at m D Anderson in
the Med Center. Sincere, thanks for your time, doctor, Come
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and welcome aboard. Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I'd love to w here.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's my pleasure. So you shared that your specialization is
pancreatic cancer, and I know that's a hard one to treat.
What what's the most concise definition you can give us
a pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
So bankorad cauncer is, Uh, that's several, you know, different
types of you know, my legnancy that can arise from
the pancreast and it has a risk factor for the
pancreast cancer is including smoking and chronic punkred titus. There's
some genetic syndrons assausted with the punk christ cauncer and
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then uh, it is very common and increasing incidents across
the nation and the word and it is currently at
the fourth leading cause of councer death in the world,
and then it's projected to become a second in the
United States in two then thirty. So yeah, it's high instance,
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increasing in stance. And then then outcome has you know,
the treatment has been improving, but the outcomes is still
sub optimal. And as cancer center, we're making the best
effort to improve the patient outcome including UH survival and
quality of life and to to provide the best possible life.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And to help my audience understand it a little bit better.
What are some of the early signs of this disease
that would warrant a visit to the doctor pretty quickly.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, Unfortunately, most of the time it's asymptomatically, which means
there's no symptom as I said with the stage of
the punk Christ cancer. But in occasion, if the location
blocks about that piction can become gallengiced, which means yellow
I or docuring, right, and that is one of the
most common signs of the councler if that happens hopefully
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in the early stage, and the other symptoms can be
you know, worsening diabetes if it is a bad degree
in the abdominal pain, fatigue, those kind of things and
can can ca symptoms.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
How accurate and how early can your pancreatic cancer tests
determine whether there is cancer there or not.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
So there's no screening program for general population and the
city scan MRI, those imaging modalities mainstay for the diagnosis
of accountor and but there's an ongoing research the liquid
biopsy or two more circulating tum DNA. Those tests can
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be the minimum invasively but still in the more like
in development phase.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But by the time somebody gets to you, it's it's
really the diseases probably progressed pretty far, hasn't it.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
It depends so like I said, it can be found
in all the stage if that happens to be the
location to cause the symptom in the early phase, or
happen to find it incidentally, meaning the patient is having
the city scan or MRI for the other reason to
identify these lesions at the early stage. That is a
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great situation. On the other side, the pancreas cyst cysts
itself is very common across the population, particularly in elder
elderlies for those has a small chance to develop counsels.
So we do have dedicated Punkers cysts the surveillance clinic,
and then for those visions, we monitor the progress of
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the cysts and we can detect the instance of the
Bankers cancer at the very early stage.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's certainly good, doctor, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, No,
it's all right.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
So yeah, but unfortunately, majority of the patient present to
the hospital with AD one stage.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
UH.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
For those situations, the surgery is not an.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Optionious, doctor Naracomo on fifty plus you mentioned while we
were out there between hitting great golf shots, I might
add that there have been some improvements, and you tapped
on it earlier, some improvement either in treatment or in detection.
What's available now that wasn't available ten years ago? Do you?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Honestly both. So the detection wise that the city SCN MRI,
those technology has been continued to improve and we can
detect fairly small size of the syst with the size
of the councer. And then detection has improved, and those
screening programs and also particularly for those genetic mutation patients
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under the high Risk screening program have the great chance
to detect those you know, holy cancers by improving those
improved those damaging modality and then treatment wise what we
call multi modality therapy, combination and the chemotherapy, targeted therapy, immunotherapy,
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the radiation therapy and surgery to maximize the chances for survival.
And then olcoma has been improving dramatically over the last
two decades.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Doctor Norikoma, I don't want to let you get away
without talking a little bit about robotics. And I may
ask you at some point down the road to come back,
but what's what's the latest in robotics in the OAR
and in your field?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
That is the to me, it is the game changer
in the field of the surgery. So the robotic surgical
platform started about twenty or thirty years ago and they
continue to improve in technology now having the significant computation
power to implement up to day technology like AIS and
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imaging technology like fluorescent imaging. And then now we have
a toptics feedback that means that we can feel the
pressure when we are doing a surgery. Oh wow, ten yeah,
ten times magnifications, so we feel like operating inside the
patients up themen, grabbing the tissue with my fingers. With
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the forced feedback and then we can have the much
accurate operation, uh in terms of the counseler quality and safety.
And have you said that you know that you need
the dedicated skill and training, so those the centers like
Niennison have a dedicated training program and then to provide
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the best possible come for the patients.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I can't think of any place I'd rather be if
I had cancer than in your office at MD Anderson.
I gotta tell you, thank you so very much, thank
you so very much for your time today. I really appreciate.
I hope you see hope to see you on the
golf course again soon. Thank you. What's it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
All right? A man, that is good good news across
the board. Really is it? Kind's fair. I'm gonna try
to hit him up for another one to delve a
little deeper into robotics because we focus so closely on
pancreatic cancer on that one.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
He is.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
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Back to Dougpike as fifty plus continues.
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Come back to fifty plus final segment starts. Now it
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They're organized and put on and hosted by women. The
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And if left to their own devices, I suspect that
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It says here after she shared this is the dumb
criminal thing is she's managing this jewelry store, and she
shared selfies of herself wearing them on vacation. That's not
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super super smart. That's not super super smart. All right,
let me get back to some more important news up
in New York City, by the way, from the Brace
Yourself desk. News I got from a man who lives
on Long Island and deliberately avoids Manhattan, deliberately avoids the
city and has done that for years now for reasons
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you all would get right if I asked you what
the top three or four were. He said that if
this Mamdani guy is elected mayor of New York City,
that'll be the last straw, the one that breaks the
cities back. I've already talked about this once. I'm gonna
talk about it again. This guy is an outspoken socialist.
He's not an American. He has no interest in becoming
one by current day phinician.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
And if New York is an American he I mean,
you could say the same thing about Ted Kruz.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, let me back it up a little bit. I'll
take that. I'll scratch that one. I misspoke on that one. Okay. However,
there's no denying that he is indeed a socialist. He
says so himself. Yeah, And if they elect him, they're
they're gonna learn quickly what that means. Rather than try
to take over our country all at once. It seems
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like it's being slowly overtaken, and it's it's like eating
You can't eat an elephant in one bite, but you
certainly can in a lot of small bites. And that's
what's going on with some of these city, these bigger
cities electing into office people who are tearing their cities
apart ultimately. And that's what's going to happen if Mom
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Donnie gets that spot. We've just let so many people
come in here and and change change America in little,
tiny places. Minnesota's got a lot of it, Maryland, New York,
there's a dozen Colorado, a dozen, two dozen states where
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the America that this audience grew up in is being dismantled.
It just really is. Saw a story this morning along
the same line said, if this guy's elected, half of
that nation's largest businesses are probably going to be moved
out of Florida before he takes office, or moved out
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of the state before he takes office. And in a
related story, the New York City real estate market is
really shaken up. There's going to be some incredible bargains
I would imagine on high rise penthouses and apartments in
the future if he gets in, which he probably will
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based on New York's history. If fund a place there,
I'd put it on the market right now. I'd take
what I could get for it. Would I would be
on the next light out.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
I mean, I would say for a lot of people
that live in New York. You know, one of the
major problems is that it's incredibly expensive, Oh, no question
about it. And ren freezes have been done in the past.
So what's what's the problem?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
What's the problem? Yeah, the problem is he wants to
institute a thirty dollars minimum wage, okay, which will put
also from the small businesses out of business. Well, I
mean I would say that the middle class.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
In New York, you know, it ranges from fifty to
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year comparatively to
let's say somewhere like Houston. Right, that's one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars is not middle class in Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Right. Essentially, what he wants to do will has turned
the city socialist. Yeah, and so I mean like failed
experiment every place that's going on on the globe.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Well, I mean, I don't think that that's necessary. Point
to a good socialist nation.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I mean, I mean, can you point to a good
capitalist nation the one we're living in? I do you?
Does the rest of the world think that? I don't
care what the rest of the world thinks, So how
would they feel?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
I mean again, you have to look at things through
almost an empathetic view, like, yeah, are you saying that
it's not okay to try and give people a chance
at living in terms of having free childcare, which puts
a burden onto families. It's one of the reasons people
don't want to have kids is because it's too expensive.
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So he's trying to address some of these problems. I
don't understand where there is an actual problem in trying
to have people have more money in their pocket to
be able to utilize free public transportation.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Okay, let me ask you this one question, and it's
just because it's raising the corporate tax, right, Yeah, but
there's not gonna be any corporations to pay those taxes.
They're out of there.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
I mean I would be surprised if they actually leave,
to be honest, Yeah, because they've done similar things in
the past in New York and they've stayed.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, but this one, this one's gonna change. O. Let
me ask you this. All these great things you want
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All right, here we go, Let the show begin. Huh.
I made a Facebook post a little while ago, actually
about an hour and a half ago. I think it
was to let you guys know what was coming today.
If you missed that, and many of you would have,
I'm sure it's okay. But if you missed it, what
I wanted to let you know is that we are
going to interview two. I have two very good medical
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interviews on tap for today, and I'm really glad to
have them. The first will be in about I don't know,
ten twelve minutes or whatever, and that's going to be
about TMJ temporo mandibular joint disorders. And the second is
going to be with a man that I met on
the golf course, actually, this past Sunday afternoon. He was
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behind me. Did I talked about this a little bit yesterday?
Did I not? Well? Do you recall I don't remember
fair enough. I met this man on the golf course
Sunday afternoon. He was waiting behind me by himself, while
I waited by myself for the three people in front
of me, who deliberately never looked back. I just waved
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this guy up, said hey, man, you want to just
play along because we're not going anywhere. And he said sure,
And he turned out to be You never know who
you're going to meet on a golf courses. I found
this man very fascinating. He's also a very good player.
But we're not going to talk about golf at the
bottom of the hour. We're going to talk about pancreatic
cancer and robotics in the o R. Those are his
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two areas of expertise. He is a pancreatic specialist pancreatic
cancer specialist at M D Anderson. Fascinating guy asked him
some quite a few questions. I'll get to many of
them when we do the interview. His name's doctor nauru Ikoma,
and other than me getting whipped by him at golf
pretty resoundingly, I might add, we've got along great. Hey,
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I know there are a lot of way better players
than me. That doesn't phaze me anymore. I'm still very competitive.
But if I run across someone like him, like the
good doctor, I don't fret over the fact that they're
better at golf than me anymore. I'm way past that.
I try to improve. I practice a good bit. I
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try hard just to get better myself. I don't want
to beat somebody else's score. I want to beat my
own previous score. And that's how I look at golf now.
It's fun. It really is. Oh, another day in paradise,
I guess, And by paradise, I mean there's nothing really
(03:26):
on the you know what map, well, except I take
that back, there was something on the seasonal you know
what map this morning. But it is a very at
present insignificant yellow offering down far down and very south
of the in the Bay of Campeache. It's just a disturbance,
(03:50):
it's all it is. There's a little it's kind of
like what we've had for the last couple of days.
I think, but for some reason they chose to put
it on the map. Ten chance of doing something in
forty eight hours, twenty percent chance in the next three
to five days, seven days, whatever it is they have.
But I don't see that thing interfering with much of nothing.
(04:12):
Hopefully it'll do what tropical Storm Andrea did out in
the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and disappear before probably
fifty people even saw that it was out there. And
by the way, if you're waiting for the big recession
or skyrocketing oil prices or World War three that a
lot of news outlets told you was going to result
(04:32):
from the November elections, or tariffs or bombing around as
nuclear sites or any such thing, now so are the
rest of us. Nothing bad has happened. In fact, things
are going quite well in this country. Oil price is down,
stock market way up. Americans are optimistic about returning to
a time when Americans were doing things that other countries
(04:52):
said couldn't be done. In fact, just this morning I
saw a headline keeping in mind the dreadful recession we
were falsely promised. I saw a headline this morning. They're
still at it. They just had to change the narrative said,
we're on the brink of super inflation. They told us
forever it was going to be a recession, and now
(05:12):
they've just flipped it one hundred and eighty degrees and
they're telling us to brace for super inflation. They just
won't stop trying to scare people. The sky is not falling.
It's going to be okay. And in just one story
after another, depending on where you're looking, you'll find reason
to be equally as optimistic as am I. Oh, there
(05:36):
you have it, There you have it me. Well, here's
another one. A new news alert news alert from the
Houston Chronicle this morning said the Supreme Courts upheld Texas's
age verification law for porn. I first of all, I
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don't know the circumstances surrounding this case, but whatever they were,
I'm absolutely in favor. I'm absolutely in favor of putting
a putting an age limit on who can watch that
stuff and who can't. I don't want kids looking at
all that and I think most parents would be in
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agreement with me on it got that taken care of.
I didn't want to spend a whole lot of time
on that. If you missed it yesterday, by the way
from the roadblock desk, a story of a woman at
the end of a rope, I guess appears, and she appears,
according to law enforcement, that she deliberately crashed her car
into a big truck and then got out of her
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car and set a chair in the middle of the
freeway up there on I forty five, retrieved a handgun
from somewhere, and then just sat down in the chair,
facing traffic for nearly five hours. She sat there with
the gun in her hand and refused to budge. As
you can imagine, there was quite the law enforcement presence.
(07:02):
I don't know why they had to have that many
people out there, honestly, but they did. And fortunately for everybody,
she just refused to budge. She wasn't going anywhere. She
had enough of everything, I guess, and fortunately for everybody involved,
a very skilled negotiator was able to talk her out
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of the chair, out of the freeway, and ultimately into
a waiting ambulance. At the end, she even she even
hugged the negotiator who talked her out of a pretty
dark hole and back into the light. So all's well,
that ends well. If you were inconvenienced in some way
by that yesterday. Just know that your day wasn't nearly
(07:46):
as bad as hers, and be glad that glad that
story had a happy ending. On the way out, I
want to remind you that Optima Iron Doors is in
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to a back to where it was or anything. Jason Fortenberry,
the guy who owns Optima Iron Doors and Primo Doors,
by the way, the only place you can get Optima
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people will come out and then sell you a door,
but it'll be bigger or smaller than your space in
your home where that your existing door is, and they
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Speaker 1 (10:04):
Aged to perfection. This is fifty plus with Doug Pike here.
Welcome back to fifty plus. I greatly appreciate you listening.
We'll talk in this segment about as promised on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
If you saw the post earlier today about temporo mandibular
joint disorders, the brief briefer version of that which is TMJ,
and it makes sense of yet another topic I really
don't understand. I'll bring in an expert, doctor Sean a dB,
professor at ut Health Houston School of Dentistry. Welcome aboard,
doctor a DBI.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Hello dog, how'd you Friday?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
To you and your listeners?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I appreciate that, I certainly do. You probably remember from
last year that I like to tee up most of
my medical interviews with a definition. What exactly, in briefly,
what exactly is.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
TMJ essentially TMD or tempera mandibulo disorders? Are you know,
symptoms and conditions or malfunction that is related to jaw
joint muscles of mastifications of the jaw, tendons, vasculatures, ligaments,
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all involved including teeth in all involved structures are when
they are symptomatic, painful, or they're not functioning.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Or are they I presume that they have different levels
of severity in different things which are the most common
or maybe the just a yeah, let's start with that.
Which are the most common ones?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, the most common uh, temperamandibulity disorders that the deal
with it today and the clinics are really the muscles
of masticatory problems. So usually patients and people present with
pain and a muscle what we call the myalgia. Often
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the pain is radiated or often it happens that they
do refer to other parts.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Of head and neck.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That is the most I would say maybe six out
of ten of those patients are domesticatory involve muscle pain
and dysfunctions. The next one really to that is those
patients or those conditions related to a disc itself. The
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way that the disk functions allows the jaw to slide open,
and when the disc is painful or diysfunctions, it would
not allow the jar open and essentially disc and condyle
up together in a very fascinated way. And that's the
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second most probable problem that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We have seen. What are the what are the typical
causes for these conditions, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
The causes of them, it varies really to for individuals.
Most of the times, something happens a trauma or something
happens that sort of uh uh, so to speak, the
last road to break the back of the camels. So
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it's sort of everything's fine until something happens. It's you're
choin on a stake a little too long, too much,
you're chowing too much, gom you are sort of a
recent stress environment. You know, you lost a rain in
the family. Something happens and that kind of initiates so
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essentially allows that problem come forward because they work before
not as much bad, but now something happened and that
come in front. So most of the times are trauma.
Sometimes are like an atomic you know, certain individuals.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Have smaller condyle the smile anatomies and a job that
allows them to become deranged more probable than the others do.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So anatomical things are such. Sometimes there are kind of
stamp from some sort of systemic disorders, you know, name
it fiber mayoga, name it rheumatic arth riders or uncontrolled
uncontrolled diabetes or high pretension, so systemic disorders that individual
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might might even bring that up. Also, so the cord
can really varies widely from individual a different age level.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Of course, if something on that list of symptoms and
feelings that you have kind of comes up and then
it goes away by itself. Can we just forget about
it and not worry about it until it happens again?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Interesting that questions because the nature of a TMD is
that they have these waxing and veining natures, unfortunately, and
that's very deceiving.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Individual at some time in their life may be experiencing
some locking good job once or maybe limited opening once
or like clicking sounds once twice, and maybe brief pain,
you know, level of a level of one to ten.
I would say they would experimentis level of a pain
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of three and four and they take some medicines, some
anti inflammatory and it'll go away. And that's kind of
deceiving because there should be an examination done, some investigation
why is it so? And it comes back three or
four months later. Unfortunately a lot of chronic conditions are
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because of this particular incident, and I just brought as
an example, so I think, yes, it needs to be
looked in and should not be ignored. Symptoms are like
not opening wide enough or getting jaw locked or pain
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in a month, so those are very significant symptoms needs
to be investigated.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Really, Doctor Sean adabion fifty plus here asking for most
of my audience, does age have anything to do with
the onset of TMJ.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Well, I think we've seen the different conditions types of
the t MG issues with different ages, for instance and
adolescents and children. We've seen grinding clenching happens a benign
type happens a lot on adult aging around twenty to forty.
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We've seen more frequents of conditions of muscle disorders. Masticated
in muscle disorders happens often more for our elderly populations.
We've seen more frequency of osteoarthritis joined it essentially is
our bondroy model like around the joint that it changes
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the anatomy of the jaw and these individuals usually feel
like a grinding bone to bone on their jaw sound
as they open, which is the highlight of what USDR
to writers would be. Those are the symptoms and conditions
that mostly our elderly populations show more.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Very good. I hate to tell you this, but we're
just pretty much out of time. Doctor showing a dB
on fifty plus, Thank you so very much so. The
bottom line, I guess is if you think you have TMJ,
go to the doctor and find out.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right most likely that's your best bet. Don't ignore it,
and thank you for addressing this on your show, and
have a happy weekend, sir, I.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Greatly appreciate that. Thank you. All Right, we gotta tell
you a little break here on the way out. I'm
going to tell you about a late health again, because
I have done so for so long and I'm happy
to continue doing so. Here's the deal. If you're a
guy and you've got the symptoms of an enlarged, non
cancerous prostate, you're probably eligible and qualified to get what's
(18:56):
called prostate arty embolization, and that's done at a late
hell in their clinics. They don't have to go to
the hospital. You just go into the clinic. Usually in
a couple of hours, they'll get you out of there.
Somebody's gonna have to drive you home, and then you
could just PLoP back in your easy chair and watch
TV and be waited on hand over fist in a dream.
Maybe in any event, you're gonna heal up pretty quickly
(19:16):
and be right back at it. That's the procedure they
do most often at a late health. They also address
fibroids in women. They make ugly veins anywhere on your
body disappear. What they do is use these tiny little
little straws, little hoses, whatever you want to call them,
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some of which are even smaller than a human hair,
to get in and either open up or close up
specific arteries, veins, whatever, so that a part that's giving
you problems, a piece of your body, does it give
you those problems anymore. There are even head pains that
can be alleviated with vascular procedures they do at a
Late Health and many other things, many too many to
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
Man, they sure don't make them like they used to.
That's why every few months we wash him, check his fluids,
and spring on a fresh code O wax. This is
fifty plus with Doug Pike.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Welcome back to fifty plus and thanks to doctor Dbe
for his info about TMJ. This past Sunday, while I'm
waiting on a slow threesome in front of me, I
see another guy playing by himself behind me, so I
wave him up and fast forwarding to now, I'm going
to interview this man. His name is doctor Nauru Ikoma
and he is a surgeon at m D Anderson in
the Med Center. Sincere, thanks for your time, doctor, Come
(21:00):
and welcome aboard. Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I'd love to w here.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's my pleasure. So you shared that your specialization is
pancreatic cancer, and I know that's a hard one to treat.
What what's the most concise definition you can give us
a pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
So bankorad cauncer is, Uh, that's several, you know, different
types of you know, my legnancy that can arise from
the pancreast and it has a risk factor for the
pancreast cancer is including smoking and chronic punkred titus. There's
some genetic syndrons assausted with the punk christ cauncer and
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then uh, it is very common and increasing incidents across
the nation and the word and it is currently at
the fourth leading cause of councer death in the world,
and then it's projected to become a second in the
United States in two then thirty. So yeah, it's high instance,
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increasing in stance. And then then outcome has you know,
the treatment has been improving, but the outcomes is still
sub optimal. And as cancer center, we're making the best
effort to improve the patient outcome including UH survival and
quality of life and to to provide the best possible life.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And to help my audience understand it a little bit better.
What are some of the early signs of this disease
that would warrant a visit to the doctor pretty quickly.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, Unfortunately, most of the time it's asymptomatically, which means
there's no symptom as I said with the stage of
the punk Christ cancer. But in occasion, if the location
blocks about that piction can become gallengiced, which means yellow
I or docuring, right, and that is one of the
most common signs of the councler if that happens hopefully
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in the early stage, and the other symptoms can be
you know, worsening diabetes if it is a bad degree
in the abdominal pain, fatigue, those kind of things and
can can ca symptoms.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
How accurate and how early can your pancreatic cancer tests
determine whether there is cancer there or not.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
So there's no screening program for general population and the
city scan MRI, those imaging modalities mainstay for the diagnosis
of accountor and but there's an ongoing research the liquid
biopsy or two more circulating tum DNA. Those tests can
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be the minimum invasively but still in the more like
in development phase.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But by the time somebody gets to you, it's it's
really the diseases probably progressed pretty far, hasn't it.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
It depends so like I said, it can be found
in all the stage if that happens to be the
location to cause the symptom in the early phase, or
happen to find it incidentally, meaning the patient is having
the city scan or MRI for the other reason to
identify these lesions at the early stage. That is a
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great situation. On the other side, the pancreas cyst cysts
itself is very common across the population, particularly in elder
elderlies for those has a small chance to develop counsels.
So we do have dedicated Punkers cysts the surveillance clinic,
and then for those visions, we monitor the progress of
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the cysts and we can detect the instance of the
Bankers cancer at the very early stage.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's certainly good, doctor, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, No,
it's all right.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
So yeah, but unfortunately, majority of the patient present to
the hospital with AD one stage.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
UH.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
For those situations, the surgery is not an.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Optionious, doctor Naracomo on fifty plus you mentioned while we
were out there between hitting great golf shots, I might
add that there have been some improvements, and you tapped
on it earlier, some improvement either in treatment or in detection.
What's available now that wasn't available ten years ago? Do you?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Honestly both. So the detection wise that the city SCN MRI,
those technology has been continued to improve and we can
detect fairly small size of the syst with the size
of the councer. And then detection has improved, and those
screening programs and also particularly for those genetic mutation patients
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under the high Risk screening program have the great chance
to detect those you know, holy cancers by improving those
improved those damaging modality and then treatment wise what we
call multi modality therapy, combination and the chemotherapy, targeted therapy, immunotherapy,
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the radiation therapy and surgery to maximize the chances for survival.
And then olcoma has been improving dramatically over the last
two decades.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Doctor Norikoma, I don't want to let you get away
without talking a little bit about robotics. And I may
ask you at some point down the road to come back,
but what's what's the latest in robotics in the OAR
and in your field?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
That is the to me, it is the game changer
in the field of the surgery. So the robotic surgical
platform started about twenty or thirty years ago and they
continue to improve in technology now having the significant computation
power to implement up to day technology like AIS and
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imaging technology like fluorescent imaging. And then now we have
a toptics feedback that means that we can feel the
pressure when we are doing a surgery. Oh wow, ten yeah,
ten times magnifications, so we feel like operating inside the
patients up themen, grabbing the tissue with my fingers. With
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the forced feedback and then we can have the much
accurate operation, uh in terms of the counseler quality and safety.
And have you said that you know that you need
the dedicated skill and training, so those the centers like
Niennison have a dedicated training program and then to provide
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the best possible come for the patients.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I can't think of any place I'd rather be if
I had cancer than in your office at MD Anderson.
I gotta tell you, thank you so very much, thank
you so very much for your time today. I really appreciate.
I hope you see hope to see you on the
golf course again soon. Thank you. What's it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
All right? A man, that is good good news across
the board. Really is it? Kind's fair. I'm gonna try
to hit him up for another one to delve a
little deeper into robotics because we focus so closely on
pancreatic cancer on that one.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
He is.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
He's a very smart man and very interesting to talk
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Speaker 2 (29:44):
What's life without a net? I suggest to go to bed,
sleep it off, just wait until the show's over. Sleepy.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Back to Dougpike as fifty plus continues.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Come back to fifty plus final segment starts. Now it
is National sun Glasses Day. And how how we have
come to that? I really don't know. I'm not sure
if we need National sunglasses Day. Uh, if you don't
have some, maybe that'd be a reason to go get some.
(30:17):
Saw a guy in the store I was in last night.
He and his son were buying sunglasses together and then
had a little fishing tackle in their arms, and they
were going somewhere somehow this weekend, probably or maybe over
fourth of July, to a place where they were gonna
need new sunglasses to look hipp and cool, and then
new fishing gear, which that could be any's. Three hundred
(30:40):
and sixty five days a year is National go buy
some more tackle Day. By the way, here's a fun
fact for you to know and tell. Will we live
closer in time humans due to t res, then t
Rex lived to the stegosaurus. And that, my friend, is
(31:00):
what you call something that you just tuck away into
your mind and never bothered to hear it or say
it again. Right, I've already forgotten. I'm sorry. What were
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I just I just saw that like twenty seconds ago.
Who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh, this is even worse. The New York Post is
pondering this in a headline should we normalize baby showers
for men? Your reaction, will memoir? Are men not at
the baby showers? Some get dragged there, but mostly they're
(31:42):
They're organized and put on and hosted by women. The
resounding answer from what I'm reading here is no, a
big fat no. I don't think that many men want that,
(32:03):
And if left to their own devices, I suspect that
a men only baby shower would end up being very
similar in nature to a bachelor party. Would you agree
with that? I don't. I don't know if you got if?
(32:26):
For example, well, listen, hypothetically, will if you and your
girlfriend found out that you were going to have a baby, Okay,
and the guys here at work, Hey, will, we're gonna
throw you a baby shower. What would you say and
be like, who are you? I've never met you before.
(32:49):
I don't know where that comes from. Okay, okay, uh.
Manager of a jewelry store got caught stealing expensive jewels.
It says here after she shared this is the dumb
criminal thing is she's managing this jewelry store, and she
shared selfies of herself wearing them on vacation. That's not
(33:18):
super super smart. That's not super super smart. All right,
let me get back to some more important news up
in New York City, by the way, from the Brace
Yourself desk. News I got from a man who lives
on Long Island and deliberately avoids Manhattan, deliberately avoids the
city and has done that for years now for reasons
(33:40):
you all would get right if I asked you what
the top three or four were. He said that if
this Mamdani guy is elected mayor of New York City,
that'll be the last straw, the one that breaks the
cities back. I've already talked about this once. I'm gonna
talk about it again. This guy is an outspoken socialist.
He's not an American. He has no interest in becoming
one by current day phinician.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
And if New York is an American he I mean,
you could say the same thing about Ted Kruz.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, let me back it up a little bit. I'll
take that. I'll scratch that one. I misspoke on that one. Okay. However,
there's no denying that he is indeed a socialist. He
says so himself. Yeah, And if they elect him, they're
they're gonna learn quickly what that means. Rather than try
to take over our country all at once. It seems
(34:31):
like it's being slowly overtaken, and it's it's like eating
You can't eat an elephant in one bite, but you
certainly can in a lot of small bites. And that's
what's going on with some of these city, these bigger
cities electing into office people who are tearing their cities
apart ultimately. And that's what's going to happen if Mom
(34:52):
Donnie gets that spot. We've just let so many people
come in here and and change change America in little,
tiny places. Minnesota's got a lot of it, Maryland, New York,
there's a dozen Colorado, a dozen, two dozen states where
(35:16):
the America that this audience grew up in is being dismantled.
It just really is. Saw a story this morning along
the same line said, if this guy's elected, half of
that nation's largest businesses are probably going to be moved
out of Florida before he takes office, or moved out
(35:37):
of the state before he takes office. And in a
related story, the New York City real estate market is
really shaken up. There's going to be some incredible bargains
I would imagine on high rise penthouses and apartments in
the future if he gets in, which he probably will
(35:57):
based on New York's history. If fund a place there,
I'd put it on the market right now. I'd take
what I could get for it. Would I would be
on the next light out.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
I mean, I would say for a lot of people
that live in New York. You know, one of the
major problems is that it's incredibly expensive, Oh, no question
about it. And ren freezes have been done in the past.
So what's what's the problem?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
What's the problem? Yeah, the problem is he wants to
institute a thirty dollars minimum wage, okay, which will put
also from the small businesses out of business. Well, I
mean I would say that the middle class.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
In New York, you know, it ranges from fifty to
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year comparatively to
let's say somewhere like Houston. Right, that's one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars is not middle class in Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Right. Essentially, what he wants to do will has turned
the city socialist. Yeah, and so I mean like failed
experiment every place that's going on on the globe.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Well, I mean, I don't think that that's necessary. Point
to a good socialist nation.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I mean, I mean, can you point to a good
capitalist nation the one we're living in? I do you?
Does the rest of the world think that? I don't
care what the rest of the world thinks, So how
would they feel?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
I mean again, you have to look at things through
almost an empathetic view, like, yeah, are you saying that
it's not okay to try and give people a chance
at living in terms of having free childcare, which puts
a burden onto families. It's one of the reasons people
don't want to have kids is because it's too expensive.
(37:42):
So he's trying to address some of these problems. I
don't understand where there is an actual problem in trying
to have people have more money in their pocket to
be able to utilize free public transportation.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Okay, let me ask you this one question, and it's
just because it's raising the corporate tax, right, Yeah, but
there's not gonna be any corporations to pay those taxes.
They're out of there.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
I mean I would be surprised if they actually leave,
to be honest, Yeah, because they've done similar things in
the past in New York and they've stayed.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, but this one, this one's gonna change. O. Let
me ask you this. All these great things you want
for we gotta go now, so uh later
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