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May 22, 2026 38 mins
Sammy takes a look back at the Miller & De Vries trade & discusses how we should grade it ahead of the weekend's series! LeBron per Windy may wait to sign this summer, what does that mean for the Lakers & his potential suitors? D Smith joins ahead of SDFC's massive showdown with Vancouver! Don't miss it

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Going along with Shammy. That's gonna be hot Jack on
the Story of the Day. Plus he's warning no, it's
Sammy Long. Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We got a packed weekend, a lot going on in
the sports world. Potter is the big set against the
A's here coming up on the show today, we got
Schaeffer and Slee with the crossover coming up at two
forty five. Darren Smith we jumping on of me coming
up at about thirty minutes ahead of STFC big match
against Vancouver. Some Pottery's updates as well as we got
talking about his knicks. His New York Knicks put on

(00:39):
a show right now last two nights at the Garden.
Can you believe they opened up as dogs in Game three?
Like on the road, the Calves are a favorite at
home in Game three, like part of me is like,
I guess I see it in that the Calves have
to win that game because they're not coming back from
a three to zero deficit. But the same time, like, like,

(01:00):
what have we seen in this series to show that
that the Cavs are are gonna win? They play zero
defense whatsoever? Evan Mobley had fourteen points in the first half.
They do not even have him take a shot last
night apb out on James Harden. Donovan Mitchell has not
come up clutching key moments. You gotta give this k
next team a lot of credit. I mean, you're like
Jalen Brunson. You look at the roster and it's a

(01:21):
lot of good players, but not great players. Karl Anthony
Towns has played his role serviceably. Oh j Anobe, Michale Bridges.
I really feel like the Knicks are a live dog
in the NBA Finals. I'm not saying that there would
be favored certainly the Spurs or the Thunder, but there
is something in the sense of like these two teams
might gass each other out and this like this kind

(01:43):
of feels like the NBA Finals going on in the
Western Conference, where the Knicks are sitting there could have
a massive rest advantage and there's there's a damn good team.
So NBA Playoffs has been fantastic. Coming up in about
ten minutes, we're gonna get to some interesting sound Lebron
James Brian Winhorse said today le Bron could wait to
make a decision, and I'm gonna get into that coming

(02:03):
up at about ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
We'll start with the Potterys.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It feels like a big set for the for the Potters,
and I feel like I say that every time every series,
but the A's are a solid hockey team or a
hockey team.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
What was talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Solid baseball team? And over the course of years, here
the A's are coming to town. You're like, ah, that's
a get right series and you look at that, like,
how do you assess how would you assess the Dodgers series?
Because I would look at the Dodger series and go
it was disappointing that they never really had a dominant performance,

(02:36):
Like even the Game one win, I give him credit.
I don't want to take anything away from him. The
starting pitching staff was unbelievable and the bullpen was fantastic,
But you win one nothing. Then Game two you got
opportunities and you get the ground rule double, which certainly
would have played into that have Mason Miller not had
the air in the ninth inning. Who knows if Piez
comes around the base path or Alex Call comes around,

(02:58):
comes home, Pies gets to sack fly and then Wednesday
we got into Yesterday. It felt like it was a
lacklesser performance. It's one thing to lose the game, it's
another thing to not show up for it. In Tatis,
we talked that nauseum not hitting in the in the
pressure spot there. But this, this A's team is talented,
Like this is not a scrub as team and the

(03:18):
AL is down this year, but I mean Jacob Wilson,
Nick Kurtz, like, this is a team that has a
lot of young talent with it, and anytime the A's
are here, we're gonna have the conversation Leo Devrees.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
And Mason Miller.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I love to hear from everybody eight seven seven seven
six seven four seven sixty eight seven seven seven sixty
seven four seven sixty or should it's a text seven
zero four seven zero start your mess with team?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
How do we look at that trade now?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Because like when I was coming up with this this morning,
I was like, Mason Miller is one of the most
electric players in baseball and is must watch TV and
a guy that you want to go to the ballpark
to see. But talking about the NBA, a lot of
like who would you pay money for if you had
if you had one ticket to a game that you're

(04:10):
gonna spend your your weekly check on what player would
it be? There's a lot of conversation like would that
be Sga? Would that would that be Anthony Edwards? Would
that be Luca? Would that be Wimby? Who would that be?
Mason Miller? Is box office? The A's gave up on
Mason Miller because they didn't need a big time closer
that they're nowhere near contention, but they got Leo debrees.

(04:32):
We all expect it makes sense. They're trying to break
in the when they when they moved to Vegas? Is
that next year? Believe that's next year they moved to Vegas.
I'm pretty sure, pretty positive on that. Hit me on
the text line seven zero four seven zero start your
mess with.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Team like they want.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
They want some big time sluggers to get people to
come to the ballpark. You're competing with the gold Knights
out there with the Raiders. An NBA team is about
to be going to Vegas. So the A's wanted a
big time slugger and pitching like pitching a twenty twenty
eight thank you. By twenty twenty eight is when they
will be uh, they will be going into Vegas. But
you wanted a big time slugger to kind of break

(05:07):
into your ballpark. Nick Kurtz looks like a next big
time player. Jake Wilson and the A's are hopefully presuming
that's Leo Devrees. So well a year later, how do
we look at that trade, because at the time the
critics were at the time that it was all excitement
about last season, because you looked at and went all right,
well though the Pattery's, we were on a direction to

(05:31):
possibly competing for a World Series, and this could be
the piece that puts you over the top. Having an
all star closer already to a stack bullpen that we've
been talking about all year the year before. But now,
like I wonder what grade would give it, I feel
like we give it an incomplete And I know that
may surprise some people because Mason Miller has been unbelievable

(05:53):
and this isn't about Mason Miller's play, but a great
bullpen only matters if your big time hitters can get
you to a point where the bullpen means something. I
heard John say this the other day on the show.
It's like, you have the best bullpen in the world.
They never have a lead.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like it's like it's like having a a like the
a great defense in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Do you need to have a great defense?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
But if your offense is putriid at some point, the
other opposing team's offense is gonna put up some points
on the board. There's only so long that you can
that you can, uh, you know, play for that. So
what great would you give the trade? Because I'm not
gonna sit here and say it's bad. I think Mason Miller.
Mason Miller is obviously an all star, unbelievable player. But
if you're the A's, like when you made that deal,

(06:43):
they're looking for the future. And if you're the Potters,
I don't blame Preller for making the move because Preller
thought that he had a team that could go on
a World Series type run. And it certainly wasn't Mason
Miller's fault why they didn't go in the World Series run.
And now I'm hearing reports about a role as Chapman
possibly that they're interested in, hearing reports about Josh Hater

(07:06):
potentially bringing him back, which is great, Like I hear
that the about the bullpen, that's fantastic, But at the
same time, I'm like, are the Potters really gonna be
sending prospects, which, by the way, they have a barren
prospect system. Ethan Salas great seeing him on a big
time trajectory.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
What was it, Brent? He moved up to the twentieth ranked.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Prospect twenty okay, so he was like he was ranked
like ninety eighth and then fell out of the top
one hundred.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
He went from one ten to twenty. Thank you, Brent.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So Ethan Salas been playing excellent baseball and that's kind
of your next big time player. You know, we've been
talking about for years Devrees and then Salas. You traded
Devirees from Mason Miller. You're keeping Salas. But if we're
gonna trade, if the Potters are gonna trade prospects, Look,
it'd be fun to add to a stacked bullpen, But
is that really the issue right now? Like I get
the concern a little bit in that God forbid, you

(07:56):
want something to happen to Mason Miller. You don't want
to overuse and over tax this bullpen, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Coaching.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Tara was on our show earlier talking about Morohane hasn't
been quite as effective as he had.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Been in years past and jeremiahs Strada.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
For some reason can't pitch against the Dodgers, but it's
unbelievable against anyone else. But I hear like a rold
As Chapman in in in Josh Hater, I'm like, are
we putting lipstick on a pig?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
In that?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like you're you will literally might have a case
with one of the great bullpens of all time. But
then again, where is the offense coming from? Unless these
big three get it together, it just feels like we're
gonna have the same conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
The bullpen's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
The starting pitching staff is doing his job, and at
the bats are not living up to expectations. All right,
call us eight seven seven seven six seven for seven sixty.
Weighing on the Potter's would you give the Miller devree trade?
You know your letter grade a year later? Heading the
phones right now, Eric, what's up?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Man?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
How's it going? Love listening?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I just wanted to come in on the Mason Miller
Leo Devreese trade. I mean, if we look at that
trade now, you know today, obviously I think we win
that trade all day. I don't think Leo DeBras has
taking a swing in an Oakland Age uniform in the last.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Year or so.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
And then as far as buying a ticket, I.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Think that easily be wemby right.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I know it was.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It wasn't a literal question. And then the whole Josh
Hater thing right. He was brought in in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
For one purpose and one purpose only.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
That was the face Bryce Harper and the NLCS, And
when the time came, for some reason, we left Suarez
in there.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So yeah, Heter, we need to leave him out of
this one.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Thanks taking the call.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Thank you, Eric, appreciate the call. Man.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I so yeah, it's it's I'm not saying it's not
a good trade.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I would so much to Mason Miller deal.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm just saying, if you're the Podreys, it's like AJ
Peller can only do so much. He can rade everything
away for the now, but you trade everything away for
the now presuming that the big time hitters come through
Bay time closer doesn't matter if you don't have big
time hitters. The pottery is thought they had big time hitters.
Hopefully they still do have big time hitters. There's no

(10:14):
reason they shouldn't still have big time hitters with Manny
Machado and Fernando Tatis and Jackson Merrill. But at the
same time, it's like they're not producing to this point
six one nine disagree with me. Terrible take. Mason Miller
Clutch a grade A minus. Should have kept this one
on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Six one Ie, I stand by it.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I again, I'm not It's not a shot at Mason Miller, Like,
that's not what this is. Mason Miller is one of
the most electric players in baseball. He's unreal and there
is nothing to do with his talent whatsoever. But I
hear that we're talking about Josh Hayter and e rold
As Chapman in bullpen help. It's like, is that really
where the pottery should be spending time and money in

(10:55):
resources and investing in their bullpen.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Their bullpen's already stacked.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You had guys like Bradsley rod Is who probably could
take on an expanded role because if his metrics, like,
he's buried behind some of the big time guys and
Morojone and Miller and Estrada and all these big time pieces.
But Browzio Rodriguez had some of the better metrics of
any closer or of any bullpen pitcher in the league
this year.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
So I just got some food for thought. Ended the
A Series.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
We'll see first time Miller facing the A's this weekend,
and then we'll see with the it's an incomplete because
right now, obviously the Potterys win the deal and that
Miller's playing in devrees isn't. But if we look back
five years, if you go five years from now and
the Pottery's never won a World Series and Leo de
Fries is an All.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Star, how do we look at it? Poo for thought
Texas seven.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Zero four seven zero start your mess with team or
give us a call eight seven seven seven six seven
for seven sixty. Eric said Wemby is the most box
office player who he would buy a ticket for in
the league. We're gonna get into that. On the other side,
who would be your who would be your or buy
a ticket no matter the cost? In the NBA. Plus

(12:04):
Brian Winhard some interesting sound on Lebron James and where
he might wake the Lakers out. I'll La Kawhi went
up with the Clippers. Tell you what I mean. On
the other side, going along Sandego Sports seven sixty live
on the iHeartRadio Act. Stfc's back at Santa Track and
Stadium tomorrow night when they take on the Vancouver White
Calves are covered with Adrian and Darren begets six pm

(12:25):
on your home for STFC San Diego Sports seven sixty.
Darren's gonna be hopping out with me in just about
ten eleven minutes something like that. You gonna get to
talk to him about STFC little Padres as well as
his knicks. But Brian Winhors today on ESPN had some
interesting sounds on Lebron James. We all know Lebron James

(12:46):
free agent. Is he going back to the Lakers? He
going to the Calves, the Knicks, the Golden State Warriors.
This is what Brian Windhors had to say on Lebron's decision.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Here's the thing, he can do whatever.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
If he wants to weigh until the day before the
season starts, he can.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
There will be teams lined up to sign him.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Okay, But if he wants to get a big dollar
contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, he's going to have
about a month because the Lakers have cap space, but
he sits on their books at fifty eight million dollars Okay,
that's the.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Way the rules work in the NBA.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
And do you give you a free agent, he sits
on your books until you sign him for whatever there's
new number is, whether it's fifty eight million, or it's
twenty million, or it's ten million, or you renounce him
and say we're giving up your rights goodbye. And the
Lakers cannot sit around and wait until mid August to
do something with that fifty eight million.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay. So Lebron oh Lebron, Lebron, Lebron.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Lebron earlier this week said the Lakers were out talented
by the Oklahoma State Donner. I agree with him, I said,
do the Lakers did not have enough talent in that series.
If you watch it, Jared McCain was one of the
MVPs of that series. SGA outside of Game four, really
didn't dominate the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
They have Jalen Williams.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Chat had a couple of big games, but the starting
five of the Lakers with no Luca played pretty well
against the starting five of the Thunder without Jalleen Williams.
I mean overall, that's why a lot of the times
he was tied at half, the Lakers had leads in
Games two and three at halftime, but then you saw
the talent gap in disparity change in the second half.

(14:25):
That's why Jared McCain off the bench. He had Lou Door,
Alex CRUs who had some really big games, Jaylen Williams
in the center. So I agree with Lebron, but Lebron
can't speak out of both sides of his mouth, Like
I don't want to hear from Lebron about how, oh, well,
the team doesn't have enough talent around me, but I'm

(14:47):
potentially going to wait all off season to sign. If
we remember, this is what Kawhi Leonard did the Lakers.
He screwed the Lakers in that freegency because he had
said it was the Raptors, or was the Clippers or
the Lakers, and he knew damn well the entire time
he was gonna be a Los Angeles Clipper. Like, let's
stop all this nonsense. Like Lebron said on his podcast
to mind the game the other day, He's like, oh,

(15:09):
I don't I haven't thought about it. I don't know
where I'm going. Please, Lebron James knows damn well where
he is going, whether it's the Lakers. Back to the Lakers,
if it's the Cavs, if it's the Knicks, if he's
gonna pair up with Steph Curry and play at Golden State.
But like there's so much. If you're gonna wait all
offseason and then sign, then you're gonna screw that team

(15:31):
because that team is gonna have to keep open cap
space for you. Kawhi Leonard did the same thing again.
He kept he knew that the Lakers and the Raptors
were really the Lakers because the Lakers and the Clippers
were two of the favors in the Western Conference that year.
He knew if he waited the Lakers out because the
Lakers had to keep the max level salary slot if
they wanted to sign him, So he was kind of genius.

(15:53):
I gotta give Kawhi some props, even though as a
Laker fan, I was like, screw the dude. Wouldn't happened
because he weighed the Lakers out. They didn't sign anyone
a fre agency because they waited for him and all
the good free agents were gone. And then Kawhis noted
with the Clippers and didn't work out for him. But
at least, you know, try to try to screw the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
At least a little bit. In free agency.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Lebron can't talk about the lack of talent the Lakers have,
but then possibly wait all offseason to sign. I mean,
it makes no sense unless he's gonna sign for a
VET minimum, which for all reports is never gonna happen.
Lebron has never taken a pay cut. I don't even
crush Lebron Lebron for not taking that level of pay
cut because he still plays at an elite level.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
He still is a big time player and.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Has had has had a lot of a lot of big,
big games in this series. I mean, he was the
best player in that Houston Rocket series. He played well
in the Oklahoma City Series. But whatever team signs Lebron,
but I don't think Lebron understands is he's not going
to be a max level salary player. He's there's been reports.
Bobby Marks put out an article on ESPN today about
could Lebron signed a one year, thirty million dollar deal.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's not making thirty million.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
If he wants to go to a contending team, he
is going to take a mid level tax payer exception,
which is teams get an exception.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Is tricky.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
In the NBA with salary cap, they get about ten
to fifteen million dollars to sign a player.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's what he would be.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Because let's say you're gonna go to the Knicks, the
Knicks aren't signing you to a Max Deevil salary.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Jalen Brunton makes huge money and he is about to
get a new deal.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Karl Anthony Towns makes huge money, Mchal Bridges, Ojananobi. Now,
the Cavs might be looking for some changes, but Shames
Harden and Donovan Mitchell make a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
As well as Evan Mobley. The Warriors have.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I guess there might be some financial stuff there, but
Raymond Green's on a big contract, Curry's on a huge contract,
Jimmy Butler's on a huge contract. They're not giving out
Max Evils salary slots either, and neither of the Lakers.
The Lakers just saw what happened if they run the
exact same team back, like they're not getting past the thunder.
That not getting passed, then I getting past san Antonio.

(17:55):
So if it's like, if Lebron really is like in
my last year, I want to win a championship, And
if it's not with La. I don't even blame him,
Like do your thing, man, Like whatever you wanna do.
You want to go to Cleveland, you wanna go to
New York, you wanna go these one of these teams. Great,
but don't drag it out all summer and wait and
kind of screw the teams that are in the running

(18:16):
for you, because I think what's happening right now is
the Walders Group homes part of the Dodgers, who does
on the Dodgers and then took over with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Is has signaled to Lebron in his camp.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
When Rich Paul and Lebron James a year ago went
to the Lakers and said, we want when the Walders
Group came on board, we want to be a part
of We want a contract extension. The Walterers Group said no.
They said no, Lebron James, the Madman brings in more merchandise,
more headlines than anyone in the NBA, even at his age.
They said no, because they're trying to hand the keys

(18:48):
over to Luka Doncic. And then we'll see with Austin Reeves,
Like Austin Reeves is more of an off season priority
for the Lakers than Lebron Jamess, Like I think Laker fans,
I know myself, I would love to have Lebron back,
but on a reasonable deal. And if it's gonna be
this whole drama all off season of where will Lebron go,
we already have that with Giannis Brent Brent's Bucks. I mean,

(19:10):
it feels like every day where we're hearing more about
where Giannis will go. Hopefully that saga finally ends right
before the NBA Draft. But look, I get Lebron wanting
to go to contender, and if that's what the Lakers
or someone else, But if Lebron, Lebron, because of his age,
cannot make a max level salary, even if he can
play like it, if he can play at that level,
he can't because at his age, he can't play the

(19:32):
amount of minutes in the amount of games that it
would take for you to get back on.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Your investment of a max level salary.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like to the Thunder's credit, dazy to get on here
and rip the Thunder because SGA, you know, the flopping
and hitting the floor twenty eight percent of field goal
attempts to this series.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
But they're a young team.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
SGA plays as many games as possible. Chat Hawk're gonna
plays many games as possible. Jayleen Williams has been out
because of a serious injury throughout the year. But young
teams can play like Max Dovil salary players because they
have the youth in the availability to do it. With
Lebron James, the Lakers have been walking this fine line
of you want to rest Lebron and give him rest,

(20:11):
but you're paying him a ton of money, so you
can't outfit the roster to where you need it to be.
If the Lakers bench was not even on par, not
even on par with the Oklahoma State Thunder, and if
you want to compete in a Western Conference with them
and with San Antonio, those two teams have deep benches.
I mean, two players we never even talk about for
the Spurs are Devin vi Cell and Keldon Johnson, and

(20:32):
they're really talented players, but because Dylan Harper's there in
Wemby and Daron Fox and Stefan Castle, they're not even
getting mentioned unless you're on a Spurs post game show.
So the Lakers, and then you have the whole Giannis piece,
are they gonna go star hunting? Because the typical Laker
way would be to go star hunting. The Lakers always
are trade all the picks, FM picks like less than

(20:54):
with the Rams. Screw the picks, screw any young talent
on the team, and trade them for a superstar. And look,
if the Lakers get Yanni's I'll be coming on here celebrating.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend like I wouldn't.
But is that in the best eaters of the team,
Because the Lakers finally have financial flexibility and they have
cap space, and they have draft picks, and they haven't

(21:16):
had that since before Anthony Davis, because when they traded
Lonzo Ball and Kyle Kuzma and Josh Hart and in
brandon Ingram like, that was the last time the Lakers
actually had flexibility with picks in cap space. They traded
all for Anthony Davis. You could debate if that was
a good deal. They got a championship out of it,
but you could also argue that it set the team
back for a lot of years, especially after the Russell

(21:37):
Westbrook deal. So very curious see where the Lakers go
where Yannis goes. Are the Lakers gonna go star hunting?
Are they getting back in the Lebron business. Is there
a team out there that is going to pay a
lot more money than Lebron probably should be making at
this stage in his career because they're desperate to get
Lebron James. My prediction would be Cleveland might sholl out

(21:57):
something like that to return the king home, all right.
Darren Smith Stanning a sports radio legend, coming on next
talking to SDFC taking on the Vancouver white Caps. Get
a little breakdown on that the Padres as well as
take a look around the NBA playoffs. Darren Smith come
up next, going along standing a Sports seven sixty lave
on the iHeart Radio app heyn the wrong with.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Black Fire? Who's next in the hot seat? Stand ego
sports radio legend.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I have SDFC color analysts on the broadcast covering the
Potters for a long time, most importantly a New York
Knicks fan, Darren Smith, joining the show right now. Darren,
how are we feeling about it?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Going up?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Too? Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yesterday, Sammy.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I appreciate the kind words, thank you very much. I
appreciate being invited on the show. How am I feeling?
I don't feel great yet. It's better than the alternative, obviously,
I'm in a much better place, but I was I
think last time that we talked about the Knicks where
I was. I'm feeling pretty grossed out by their performance

(23:04):
against the Atlanta Hawks, but I've seen Cleveland down o
two holes against Toronto and against Detroit. So I'm also
old enough to have lived through a two to zero
Eastern Conference lead that resulted in a loss to the
Chicago Bulls back in nineteen ninety three. So I feel
better than lastly chatted. But we're still a long ways

(23:28):
away from me starting to plan any trips to either
San Antonio or Oklahoma set.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Before we get to SCFC In the Potters, I'm curious.
I saw a Knick's podcast debating this. I want to
get your thoughts if Jalen Bronson, if they win a championship,
is he the greatest Nick ever?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
In your eyes?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Greatest is one of those words. It depends what we're
asking here. Do I think that Jalen Brunson is going
to go to the Hall of Fame based on his
career today? Maybe not so. I think he becomes easily
in the conversation for the most beloved greatest, though that's

(24:06):
just one of those words. Sammy, It's just tough. It's
tough to know what people mean by that. You know,
are we talking about somebody who's going to score as
many points as Patrick Ewing, especially with the level of
expectation that Patrick Ewing had when he was drafted number
one out of Georgetown. Are we going to go back
to players like Walt Frazier, who's on the last championship
side back in nineteen seventy three. He's a legend for

(24:27):
the next not only for what he does and his
outfits and his broadcasting, but also for his Game seven
performance back in nineteen ninety three, which, truly, if I
want to look this up, one of the great Game
seven performances of all time, thirty six points and nineteen assists.
So listen. I think it's it's sort of it's a
fun conversation because it's happening right now. But I also

(24:51):
think we're not sure what Jalen Brunson the rest of
his career is going to look like. So you know,
I don't think it ends no matter when it is
that the knixt year and the ends this season. So
I think it's a little premature for me to have
that conversation.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, certainly will heat up if they win it, But
I like you with the most beloved nick ever. But
looking at SDFC taking on Vancouver tomorrow at six point thirty,
of course here Adrian and Darren on the call with that,
when you look at this team, the team that knocked
him out last year, how do you see SDFC heading
into this matchup? Because you know, last time I had
you on the offense was kind of slumping. There wasn't

(25:26):
much there. Put up five goals against Austin, put up
three goals against Cincinnati. What have you seen to at
least change the perception of the offense of this team
in the last couple weeks.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well, they just look like themselves. I think you know
that they're playing the way that they want to play,
at least in terms of we know that they're always
going to have possession. They're leading the league in time
of possession, so you know, it's just who they are.
They're going to pass the ball more than anybody else,
more than their opponents every single match. But keeping it

(25:56):
and not making mistakes that lead to I think has
gotten better. It's not where it was last year, and
it's not where it needs to be by the end
of the regular season, but it's been better over the
last handful of matches and this one would be a
good one to have to get a result in hopefully

(26:16):
three points against Vancouver, but playing better against FC Cincinnati
side that was second in supporter shield standing last year,
playing better against the Seattle team that hadn't lost at
home in over a year, the frustration of what it
was that happened against LAFC. They're starting to look like themselves.
I still think that they have some things that they

(26:38):
have to work on, still dealing with some of the
injuries you know that have just dominoed from one match
to the next. So I think a sixty day break
is probably going to be a pretty good thing for
them overall, hopefully ending up on a high note. But
you know, it's the thing that holds them back. I mean,
their goal scoring is pretty much right there with Vancouver

(26:59):
when you look at how many goals scored thirty for Vancouver,
twenty eight for SDFC. But it's the goal prevention that's
really let SDFC down. They've allowed thirteen more goals than Vancouver.
That's a lot. Vancouver is now the best team in
the league. They're the stingiest. They've only allowed ted, but
still some work to do, whether it's some of that
late match chaos or whether it's the set pieces in
the corner kicks. You know, they still have some things

(27:21):
that they have to work on to be a better team,
you know, to be this kind of team that we
saw from last year.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
You mentioned the late match chaos. What what would in
your opinion that be why the You know, SDFC hasn't
always been able to hold leads and they're up to
zero on LAFC and it felt like that was kind
of becoming a recurring theme.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Is just the lack of talent back there? What would
you put it at?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I would say, you know, it is a little bit
of lack of depth for sure. You know, this is
the second year team and SDFC doesn't have what a
lot of these other teams have, Sammy, they don't have
an academy, they don't have a second team where you know,
if you're running short on bodies on a busy week
where you're playing three times in eight days, you can
pull a couple players up from your academy who can

(28:06):
maybe manage ten fifteen minutes here or there. Right, they
don't have that. You know, They've got teenagers that they
have to cycle through off the bench. So I think
some of it is depths just because of the nature
of the club and where they are, and just being
the second season that they haven't yet built in academy
that they can pull players from. I also think it's
a bit of fatigue. I think late goals allowed probably

(28:28):
suggests to you, especially given everything that's happened. I mean,
we've really packed the season here into a couple of months,
haven't we, with conkor CAP Champions Cup and the ups
and down, etc. The red carts, the suspensions. I think
also it would be fair you'll never hear this from them.
I mean, you'll never hear this from their coach, but
I would say I think a little bit of mental

(28:49):
and physical fatigue has probably contributed to some of those
late minute goals that we've seen. So, you know, I
think it's just a combination of a couple of different things.
And you know, again like like this team, it spoiled
us in ways last year that we're really really unexpected,
and you know, now where I think starting to see

(29:11):
maybe a little bit more of what first year, second
team second year teams have to deal with.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
You mentioned the injuries, so maybe that's the answer that
it's good to have the break right now. But if
they have been playing I guess not the best, but
better the last couple of weeks than they had certainly
a month or two ago, do you think the World
Cup break comes at a good time or if you're
like SDFC, outside of just injuries, do you wish like
either're starting to put it together and now, of course
they're off for for a month, right.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, I mean you, you know, pick up three points
again to Vancouver and we'll be walking out of the
building going, man, this break comes time, doesn't So now
I do? I honestly think that they didn't really have
any offseason. You know, they didn't. They were one of
the last team standing in Major League Soccer lost to

(30:01):
Vancouver in the Western Conference Final. They were literally the
first MLS team to play a competitive match because they
open up Conker Cap Champions Cup against Pulmas. They were
the first team in action playing a competitive match. Barely
had any offseason, barely had any camp, so learning all

(30:21):
this stuff on the fly, Sammy as you could imagine,
don't need to be an expert, just apply this Sanny sport.
There's a reason why football teams right. Gridiron football teams
have weeks and weeks and weeks of camp. Baseball spent
six seven weeks in spring training. STFC didn't really have
any of that. So, regardless of what happens, even if
you win five, no tomorrow like, oh this is great,
we're playing better. Let's keep going. Who's up next? Regardless

(30:45):
of what happens, I do think it is overall, the
overarching opinion would be good time push the reset button,
address what it is that you need to address. Remember
the transfer window will open too by the time SDFC
plays its next game after this one tomorrow, So who
even knows. There might be some players who will be
on their way out, there might be some players who

(31:05):
are on their way in. There'll be lots of speculation.
I can be sure of that, especially coming off a
World Cup cycle. But I think to get a proper
camp in, which is part of their plan, is a
good idea and it will be beneficial to the club
in the long run.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Darren's been joining me right now, Jarrey.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
We look at that Dodger series against the Podres, And
we've heard some takes this week. Some people are like,
you know, they kept it competitive, they won game one,
Game two could have gone either way. Some people were
kind of negative on the outlook, especially how they finished Wednesday.
Where were you at with that series, like with the Podres,
take your biggest takeaway from it?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, I mean I'm one of those that would say
those two games were really good. I mean they were
really competitives, decided by one run each coin flip either way,
abs decisions, right, I think I said on Friar Terror,
sorry the margins were razor thin. That that's fair, that's objective.
I don't care who you're rooting for, Like, that's the

(32:04):
reality of it. Third game, it felt like the Dodgers
sort of said, okay, you know, we were gonna our
stars are going to show up. We have Shoho Tani.
Not only is he going to pitch, he's you know,
the Homer on the first pitch of the game, and
Freddie Freeman's gonna jackup doubles and here's Mooki and okay,
you know, go back to your room.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
It felt a.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Little bit like that, but you know, probably just you know,
just because it's the Dodgers, it just has that impact,
you know, I like, was it really that dramatic or
is that just because it's Padtery's Dodgers. Probably the latter,
But you know, it did feel that way, and I
think the Patrick players and the coach even sort of
felt that way afterwards. It's kind of how they sounded

(32:44):
to me in their postgame commentary. So, uh, it's just
a different matchup, you know, It's just a different sense.
Like you do use it as measuring sticks, you do
use it as trying to compare yourself to be where
where they have been over the last couple of years.
So I don't think it's a total mismatch. I don't
think it's varsity versus junior varsity, but pushed the shove.

(33:07):
I do think that the Dodgers are better, and I
think they showed you why.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Last question for I'll let you go.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
There was a report that the Potteris are looking for
potential bullpen help a role as Chapman was thrown out there.
Josh Hater, are you surprised that they're looking at the
bullpen considering it's been so good or do you think
do they need to add something there?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
To kind of make up for the lack offense.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, it's interesting. I would not have if you would
have said, what do you think the Potters are going
to be looking for? Like, what are they actively out
there scouting? I think I would have gone starting pitching,
hitting first, and second, bullpen third, you know, and then
bench pieces depths, you know, maybe somewhere in that mix

(33:51):
as well. And it's not just that they're looking for
bullpen arms. The names and the contracts, I mean Josh
Hater and a waldersh dat And I was like, hey,
what yeah, not cheap. So yeah, I mean not cheap
and big names and big game hunting again. So as
somebody who who's been with the Potteries for a long
time said to me, I will, let me see if

(34:12):
I can get the phrase right. I will, I will.
I'm gonna screw it up. But he said, I'll never
be shocked to be you know, it'll never shock me
to be surprised when it comes to age Proller, something
along those lines. You know, anything is always possible, and
I'll never talk to be surprised is the exact line.
So that's just the way it is when you're around
the potteris organization. Anything is always possible, and I'll never

(34:35):
be shocked to be surprised.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Darren Smith check him out Friar Territory po podcast. Go
check him out there, and then of course SEFC tomorrow
night taking on Vancouver at six thirty. Premium coverage starts
at six. Darren, thank you so much for hopping on.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Man, Sammy, I appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah you too.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Coming up next, John Schaeffer, Allen Sleew come him next
on going along the Little Crossover action on Sadiego Sports
seven sixty, my Heart Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
App Sammy Paper fifteen minutes of goodness we call the Crossover.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Boys are here on a Fridays.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Is that like a surprise.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I like announcing it. I like everyone knowing that, hey
you're here. Yeah, it's just me for thirty minutes, you know.
And then it was Darren, that's your boys, I know,
said I still announced it. For one I was Ben
and I were a couple of days ago we were
giving away our del Mar tickets and you guys have
been doing what the talk pack Mike. We were asking
people and it doesn't have to be sports related necessarily,

(35:41):
what is your most unpopular opinion.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I'm springing this on you guys in the spot.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
But this could be like at a at a dinner party,
you say it, and it could be like no, Alan,
like come on, John, like you don't say that.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I have so many I think that's what I'm asked
you the right people.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
One of these before come up. Mine would be I
think bacon's overrated. Whoa, I'm a vegetarian.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Vegetarians Wow hot, spicy, so hot.

Speaker 8 (36:17):
Yeah, but he's trying to make it like nashurally a
viral clip or something.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Right now, it just like comes in. It comes in
like I can have it. I don't have to have it.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
It comes in. It kind of like dominates too much
of the con. I don't think I need a bacon
on top of standalone piece.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Somebody to say, what if it's like with breakfast and eggs,
I enjoy it more standalone like that.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, right, okay, so you're more of a sausage ham guy.
Did you more of a sausage guy?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yes? But again, like does I could do with bacon?
I could do without bacon as Wow that now coming
hot with it doesn't do any.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
John, that is that's fantastic. That's spicy. I I love
me some bacon, but it's called the popular opinions.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
My most unpopular opinion I ever offered was that Shoo
Tani was the most overrated player in the history.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
That probably wasn't a shot a good one. Probably wouldn't
have gone with that.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
As well as I thought it may either in the
short term.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I understand what was at that point.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
Well, hear me out for a second. I got walked
into it on YouTube at eleven PM Tuesday night and
the kitchen table.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Wait wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
It's different.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
What does that set up there have anything to do
with the substance of what you.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Say when we're doing this on the radio, we work
for iHeart. Can we like prepare right, it's easy to
be large. You've thought about what you're going to say, Like,
we're not gonna go on here right now. In the
first three sentences, curse four times.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Okay, but listen, listen real quick, but listen the way
you just to fight it. You said it was eleven
PM and you did a show at your kitchen table.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's your justification.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
And I was mad at Otani in real that day.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Real why no?

Speaker 8 (38:10):
Because I got walked into it, like I got I
think the babes exact, Babe, and I understand what you're
saying in that you guys like you and Jim and
you do lie
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