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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Going along with Shammy. That's gonna be hot Jack on
the story of the day. Plus it's warning no, it's
Sammy Long.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back, four day weekend for everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
A lot of data on the Potter's we're gonna get
to just in a second thirty minutes, Chino'glacy is coming
in for his usual usual Monday appointment, coming in on Tuesday.
Excited he gets to talk to Chino about everything going
on in the sports world. About fifteen minutes, we're gonna
get into James Harden. I listen for someone who is
(00:38):
a veteran of the NBA to have these kind of
comments postgame after you just got swept by the New
York Knicks. We're gonna play those for you because I
couldn't believe it. I thought it was ai when it
was sensing me by my friend, and it is one
hundred percent real. Plus some rumors about Lebron not wanting
to take a pay cut for Cleveland. We're gonna get
into all that coming up in about fifteen minutes. We'll
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start with the Pods and Brian know I sent you
Kevin Acy sound We'll get to in a second. It's
it's this weekend felt like a microcosm of the Pottery season.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So Friday, they.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You know, they the the A's come out, jump out
to a lead two to oh, Pottery's come back with
Manny Machado hit the two run shot and the end
up winning seven four. Then on Saturday, the A's out
hit them four hits to two, but Pottery's win two zero.
Again test them into that bullpen, Mason Millier. Once you
knew that thing got to the got to the ninth inning,
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it was over, I mean against his old team. You
just felt like this this game was wraps. Sunday, lacklesser offense,
A's came out, you know how to got a homer
in the first inning. And then yesterday the bats are
completely lifeless and score two runs on Sunday none yesterday
in the Phillies on three hits, come into Pecko Park
and get a win. And we're looking over the last
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week as I'm pulling up all the scores here to
to make sure we're accurate. I mean, the Patterre's offense
has scored over the last week zero runs, two runs,
two runs, seven runs. Take that, zero runs, four runs
in one run, seven run. They scored north of a
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couple runs only a few times. I mean, this offense
is getting hard to watch. Mannia Chada with the one
seventy three batting average, leave six players on base yesterday,
Tatisa is a few hits the other day on Sunday.
But you're like sitting there going there's a lot of
blue pits. The contact is not there, and you're starting
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to see what is happening when the rest of the
lineup is not having the start that they originally had.
You're talking about your Ramon Loreano's your your Bowguart's been
pretty solid all year. Gavin Cheeze was raking there for
a week or so. So I asked Kevin Ac earlier
because it feels like a largely intact the pitching staff,
the bullpen has been great. I asked Kevin Ac earlier
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on our show about who do the Podres have the.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Most concern about internally?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Is it Jackson Merrill, is it Fatis or is it
Many Machado.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
This is what Kevin as he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's an interesting one. Well, so when you when we
say the Padres that you got to understand there's just
a whole bunch of people, right and that's one thing
that AJ Preller does and a lot of organizations, but
AJ read the one I cover, and I know, well,
AJ really likes you know, different opinions, and so you
always have to remember, like this is what the padres say, Well,
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there's three different opinions, there's five different opinions. There's seven
different opinions. Right, So depends on who you talk to,
and that should tell you something, right like like there's
this trust that Manny will be Manny until he shows
you he won't be Manny anymore. But the longer it goes,
then you start to wonder and they are, Okay, well,
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well what's going on here? Because we see him missing
these pitches he should hit, So what's happening? There's still
trust in Manny. There's absolutely like knowledge like that that
Fernando has just discombobulated himself. And now for like I
would say, the last when was there sometime during the
Dodgers series, the at bats were just better, Like not
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every one of them. He grounded out, did some of
those there's a check swing one, you know, but like
I was better. He wasn't being that guy anymore. And
so and there's just it's so confounding that he has
gone it two hundred and twenty three, two hundred and
twenty three plate appearances to start this season without a
home run, that they really think that no, this will
He's gonna finish fine, like whatever. That looks like, Meryl, Hey,
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you know what is the track record there? So I
guess my answer to you would be Merrill if I
had to choose one, But I would say the more
important answer, the more telling answer, is that there's different
opinions in there in that organization about who to be
most worried about.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You do get the sentence in Texas what your thoughts
are seven zero four to seven zero, start your message
with team or shoot us a call eight seven seven
seven sixty seven four seven sixty or the little talkback
on the iHeart radio app. I love to hear your
guys thoughts. Who do you or who are you most
concerned about? Because Jackson Merril is interesting, Jackson Merrill has
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evaded a lot of the criticism to some extent rightfully so,
and that Tatis is the big money maker in Machadad.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Those are the two stars.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
We all thought in San Diego that his after his
rookie season when he came up let the world on fire,
moving from shortstop to the outfield, and he was tremendous
that first year that you're like, oh, we're you know,
we're looking at another superstar in San Diego, Like this
guy could be a big time player for the Potters
and kind of add to this core.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And it's been a few years, so Year one he's unreal.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Year two he gets a pass because he's remember he
started out hot the first couple weeks of the season,
gets the big contract, then he gets hurt, and when
he came back from injury, he was never really the
same player. But I think people took up with a
little bit of a grain of salt. You were gonna
go through some some sophomore slumps. We see it in
the NFL all the time. Second year of quarterbacks do
not look the same as first year qbs.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And with the injury, you're.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Like, he wasn't able to get a full kind of
season under him to work through those slumps.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He has not been very good this year.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And yes, we're gonna focus on Manny Machado at a
one to seventy three batting average and the no home
runs stat. You know, it's a ticker every day, how
many days until the Franano Tatis hits a home run?
But Jackson Merrill's quietly not been having a very good season,
and because of those other guys, has kind of evaded
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a lot of that talk, because a lot of the
discourse in conversation has been around Fernando and Manny. But
I also think if you're looking at like, I think
Merril would be the answer.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think I would be most concerned about Merrill.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Many do we always have that think, Oh, well, Many
gets his numbers, no matter what it is, that's true.
Now Many also is getting up there in age at
one of these points, Kevin Asy said it, either in
that or another part.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Of the interview.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's like, at some point he's not gonna get his
numbers now, Manny, the batting average has been atrocious. Last
night here yesterday was very glaring because of the six
runners left on base, Bass's loaded opportunity. It's to Meadie
min Child's credit. To his credit, he owned a postgame
with Kevin Azy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
He said, he's like.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
When you're super star, when you're star player leaves six
on base, there's no one to point to you but yourself.
And he's right, but the batting average is awful, one
seventy three, and Fernando, it just feels like it's the
same conversation. Maybe maybe once he hits his first home run,
the hope is that he's gonna rip off a bunch
of these and that we're talking about the launch a
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goal and the swing mechanics. And again, I'm not a
swing coach. I'm not gonna get into the old swing mechanics.
And he needs to throw his hip like this, I
have no clue. But you know, we hear about him
hitting the ball in the ground and that it's it's
gonna break through. And what's happening, though, is the rest
of the team, the rest of the offense, not having
quite as torrentive start as they were, and they've carried
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this team of the record they have. And I am
not gonna come on here and point at certain players
when they have bad games. And the Freddie for means
and Gavinci has been phenomenal, but if he has a
bad game, I'm not pointed to them. This is on
the Big Three because if you are going to beat
if you're gonna beat one of the top teams in
the NL, like look at their look at their their
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record against teams in the NL. This year, you have
the Dodgers. You went one to two against. It was
great seeing the pitching matchup, the pitching dual Night one
and hargets the home run gets after YOURSWM modo a
little bit. In that one one one shot.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You win the game. You lose games two and three.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Game three was pretty pathetic, losing four zero and Randy
Vasquez kept you in the game. We remember Randy Vasquez.
Shoey Otani hits the home run on the first pitch.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They had runners on.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Base in the first fast CAUs it gets out of it.
In the second inning, the Dodgers score a run, left
runners on base.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Vasque has kept you in it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The Dodgers, I believe of seven or eight runners on
base in that game, and they kept it a ballgame.
And then Tatis we all know with the grounding and
the double play at that crucial point.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Let's go back to the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You're one and two against them, outside of Gavin Sheets
having that unbelievable ninth inning against your rebay, their star closer,
after Misarowski had mowed down the Potter's lineup for most
of the game. They come back and win that one,
one and two the Cubbies. They take down the Cubbies
Night one in Peco Park, offense comes alive. One of
the most complete victories I've seen in the Potters all year.
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Games two and three, Field of Lifeless. So the potteris
have proven. Let me backtrack that well on our tech side,
our talkbacks are calls. I think people are split. I
think some people are like, hey, why are people jumping
on the team. Look at the record, look at where
they're at. They're still in the division race. Why are
people getting after him? Then you have the other people
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who were looking at this Where I look at it
from a World Series perspective, I think it's as San
Diegians as all of us in San Diego. I think
I can speak for everyone that everyone's past the Hey,
it's cool if the Pottery is irrelevant, Like that was
a mindset for a while.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Was when the Patters seven years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Started getting back in the picture, because I mean fifteen
years ago, they were, they were awful, they were they
were given away. Take us to that ballpark and then
the lower Bowl. I mean that was when Will Myers
is the best player on the team. Not exactly a
happy time in San Diego. The team though, has built
up over the years that they are a competitive ball
club that people expect to me in the postseason. But
in San Diego, I think we've all graduated past that.
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That's great. That's great that that is the bar. That
is the bar that you have to make the postseason.
If you look at it from a World series perspective,
can this team go win a World Series?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
There is still a lot of time to get this
roster right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But as of right now, when they step up a
competition in the NL, they don't win. You're gonna have
to beat the Brewers, you gonna have to beat the Dodgers,
you have to beat the Cubs, and they haven't performed
against those teams. I'll give him credit in the AL
against the Mariners, going six to zero against those That
set of the Marins haven't been the same team this year.
But the Mariners are a damn good ball too ball club.
They deserve a lot of credit for that. They lost
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the series against the against the Tigers one and two.
There so I hear this like AJ Pereller the report
last week, there was a report if you didn't see it.
The Potters were looking at a role as Chapman and
Josh Hater for more bullpen help, and off the jump,
my first reaction was, why would the Potteris be looking
at bullpen help when they have the best bullpen in
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the best bullpen in in baseball, or one of the
best bullpens in baseball? Why are you looking there? Why
aren't you looking at the bats? And now I kind
of get it. I kind of get it if you're
a J. Preller, because I'm sure if you AJ Preller
sit up in his office, I'm sure the entire pitching staff,
starting in bullpen, are like, what do.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We have to do? What do we have to do?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Because they are putting this team in positions to win
night in out, and they are having to be perfect
to win ball games because the offense and mainly the
big three Merrill, Machado, and Tatis are not doing their part.
And like we look at their thirtieth in in batting
average with a two nineteen on base ops on baseball,
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slugging twenty ninth overall at six fifty seven run scored
two to eleven, that's seventh in the Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
We give them.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Matt sol In bas is pretty good, tied for six
in Major League Baseball, and home runs their eighteenth. So historically,
teams that are thirtieth in batting average, twenty ninth in ops,
and eighteenth in home runs aren't winning World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
But I get it from AJ Peller's perspective. I'm sure
A J.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Peler is sitting there going look at what this pitching
staff has done without Nick Pavetta and Joe Musgrove. I mean,
if you would have told me that we're having these
kind of gripes with the Padres before the season started,
I would have said it would have been that the
starting pitching staff would be letting them down. And then
certainly when the Musgrove and Pavetta news came down, I
thought that would be them that her mam marked Walker Bueler,
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Gryffin Canning. These guys wouldn't show up. Brandy Vasquez they have.
Has they been the best.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Starting rotation in baseball?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, but considering the injuries, they deserve a lot of
credit for keeping this team afloat. You've gotten what you
can out of Walker Bueler. You got a couple wins
out of her Mam Marquez, Griffin Canning kept them in
that ballgame yesterday. Typically, when a team visiting has three hits,
especially in the Philadelphia Phillies, you expect to win that ballgame.
In terms of a j Preller, I kind of get
why he's going to the well, like if you're you're
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stuck with Tatiz Machado AMERI unless you're gonna do a
massive switch up where you're gonna trade a big time star,
which brings a whole different set of problems with it,
And is the.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is the new ownership gonna approve that considering.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They just bought the team one of the most marketable
stars you want to trade them. Maybe the thing is
just load up the bullpen and hope that these guys
can squeeze across two or three runs and get in
a roll as Chapman, get a Josh Hater and make
an unbelievable bullpen and pitching staff that is already elite
even better because we're getting to a point it's like,
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when are these guys gonna hit the baseball? And if
they're not gonna hit the baseball, unless you're gonna go
acquire a big time star slugger, maybe it is try
to eke out wins and go to the bullpen. I
don't know how sustainable that is. I don't think that
that's World Series caliber. But you got to give aj
Peller credit for trying, because nothing he can do about
the fact that the Big three, who the ownership the
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previous ownership group paid a bunch of money to to
hit rightfully, So because you thought that they were the
future of the franchise, aren't hitting A j Peller caning
do so much. There's only so many Gavin Sheets, Migueleanahars,
Walker Buehlers that he can sign to keep this team afloat.
It's up to these guys to get it together. We
heard it from Anie min Chaddo last night. Hopefully it
turns around against the Phillies here because it is a
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big time set against a big time NL opponent who's
gotten hot recently. Would love to see some response tonight
at Peco Park.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
All right.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Coming up next, James Harden, New York Knicks were going
the finals. James Harden had some comments post game that
I couldn't believe, frankly, why I heard these. You're gonna
hear those on the other side. Plus Will Lebron be
going to Cleveland. Should the Lakers be worried?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's all.
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nine to three to three. Maybe he's got some insight
into the light up. All right, we'll talk about the
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Patres NBA Playoffs. So the New York Knicks going to
the NBA NBA Finals, which I'm happy about because a
Knicks fans are entertainment number one.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Number two. I think the.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Fact that the the the Knicks actually can give I'm
not saying they're gonna be favored because they're not. I
think they can give the Spurson Thunder at least a
little bit of a run for their money. The Calves
they were gonna get blown out as Evans in this series.
Now the Calves got swept four games to none. They
were not even in this thing. And James Harden had
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this to say postgames. So James Harden had an atrocious series,
went two of eight from the field in last night's game.
And this is what James Harden had to say after
they got swept by the New York Knicks on their
home floor.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I mean, I can't even like, I can't even answer
that question honestly, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
it was four zero, but I don't think we get
we had a chance as far as our best shot,
you know, from from a standpoint of the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, obviously they just they they dominated us four.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Oh. But yeah, I don't know if I can necessarily
answer that question just because James, I do feel like
we are the better team, but you know, serious wise,
you know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And didn't show it.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
So it's a tough question to answer.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Okay, So so normally when you get sweat four to none.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You're not the better team.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Because you've had four opportunities to win those games and
you lost by the way in big fashion. These were
not close games outside of outside of Night one, the
game one in Madison Square Garden, they're up twenty two points,
the Knicks come all the way back.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
These were blowouts.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
This comes after Kenny Atkinson had the audacity to say
after Game three that two of the first three games
they won analytically. They won analytically like he actually went
to the president and said that the scores of these
final games. Game one one fifteen one oh four went
to ot. Game two, Knicks win one on nine ninety three,
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Game three one twenty one to one o eight in
game four one thirty to ninety three, and James Harden
goes to the presser and goes, we're the better team.
Kenny Atkinson and him also said postgame and they blamed
the schedule and the fact that they had to play
multiple game sevens, which is a reason why they were
gassed out. No, you weren't gassed out because because of
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that you had to play other games. You were gassed
out because a bunch of soft players. James Harden has
never won anywhere he's been. It's a lot like the
Shaye argument.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I don't want to loup Shane with James Harden because
Shaye is an NBA champion, but I think why people
get frustrated with Shay and why he hasn't necessarily I
would say had the best playoffs. The thunder have had
a great playoffs. He has some great series against the Lakers.
He hasn't been fantastic against the San Antonio Spurs. He
went six to fifteen from the field for nineteen points
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in that Game four. Now I get that they got
blissed in that game, but James Harden SGA are very
They rely on fouls, They rely on getting the free
throw line and when the whistle gets gets tighter in
they swallowed the whistle in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You don't get that.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So if you're the Cleveland Cavaliers, there are ports today
per sham Serania, they're bringing Kenny Atkinson back and they're
looking to sign James Harden to a big time deal,
which I can't even understand. Kenny Atkinson in Game one
allowed an eighteen to one run at Madison Square Garden
without a timeout called. In Game four, in a closeout game.
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They allowed a twenty zero run. They allowed multiple double
digit runs in these series, and they weren't even close
against the Knicks, a team that, by the way, in
that I believe was Game three, Evan Mobley had fourteen
points in the first half and then did not attempt
a shot or did not score in the second half
because they didn't get the ball to him.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Kenny Akinson has.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
No idea what he's doing, and the fact that you
were trying to exploit that, Jared Allen, Evan Mobley, you
might have an advantage there over Karl Anthony Towns, and
they look at tot of the Mitchell James Harden like
just because you're a great regular season players to win
the postseason when teams are able to game plan for you.
And Mike Browns there's a lot of credit for this
because with the New York Knicks, they took Mitchell out
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of these games in the third and fourth quarters. They
attacked James Harden on defense. They directly went after him
the entire time, to the point where Mike brown almost
like felt bad after Game one how much they attacked
James Harden. There were no adjustments with Kenny Atkinson and
I don't think if you're Cleveland you can run the
same thing back. Brian Winners reported today that we get
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into this a little bit more on the other side,
but Lebron will not be taking a pay cut to
go to Cleveland. And like, let's just say that they
swap Lebron out with James Harden. What does that get you.
I mean, Donovan Mitchell has never been a second half
player throughout his entire career, whether that was with Utah
or with Cleveland. And yeah, Lebron is better than James Harden,
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but you got to take it in the fact that
Lebron's forty two years old and Lebron thinking that he's
gonna a max level salary, whether that's with the Lakers
or the Calves or the Knicks or the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Just because he still plays at an elite level does
not mean that he's going to make that kind of
money because what comes along with a max level salary
contract is that you have to a be available for
every game, and Lebron's not gonna be able to because
of his age. They're going to try to load manage him.
And number two, like you have to be above and beyond.
Lebron's een years ago could go above and beyond and
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make up for subpar teammates. What do he did with Cleveland?
Could he do that with the Lakers this year? No,
because it was so the roster was so built on
Luca and Reeves and Lebron being dominant.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Reeves is a subpar series. Luca isn't available. The Lakers
are going home.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So if that's the Cavs big fix that they're gonna
get Lebron, they're not even sniff in the Eastern Conference
Finals because the Knicks are gonna be there, The Pacers
are gonna be back in the conversation with Haliburton, and
the Celtics should be there again. But yeah, I'm happy
the Knicks are moving on glow. We're done with the
Cleveland all right? Come up next, Gino Iglesias Channel nine
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Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hey know the wrong with a little heat here? Black
fire thing? Who's next in the hot seat? Sorry, that's
my favorite. Uh Ginoglesias. What's up? What's up?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
How you doing doing wonderful?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I okay, so you were sitting in the last segment, Yeah,
you heard me ripping James Harden Jay Sales on YouTube
better team question Mark, he's solutional. What is your reaction
off the jump to that you heard the sound like
this guy's saying that they were the better team over
a four game set.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
My thought on James Harden is, drugs are bad.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Okay, dude, book your ticket to China already. Go play
in China, my guy, because there's no way you gonna be.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Able to pull off anything anywhere.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
You can go back to Houston because they got great
barbecue and strip clubs.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Go ahead. Yes, we know you love themselves in strip clubs,
but dude, you have you don't have that dog in you.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
They If you think about that roster, like think about
the Oklahoma City team that they had James Harden, Russell Westbrook,
Kevin Durant about.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
A part time, what a time? And I think if you.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Would have told people when they got to the finals,
like even if you've told people these guys split up,
this would have been a next core of the NBA
for years, Westbrook's every one, Harden's ember one wherever he's gone,
and Kevin Rurant could only win joined the Warriors like
it is, it is a collection of disappointments from that
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's pretty it's pretty tough. It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, well, speaking of Oklahoma City, So tonight taking on
the Spurs, where are you at in that series? Because
it's been so like who are you giving the lean to?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I want to say that momentum is everything, but there's
something special about about how the Spurs kind of have
SGA figured out a little bit. I really, I'm I'm
hoping for a Spurs Nicks series, Uh, just because I
hate the thunder so much.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yes, yeah it is.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
It is to that and it's like, bro, Sga, I
get it, dude, you're great. Good for you, but like
just all the it's always one guy and one team
that we put the target on. Like, man, you guys
are terrible. Stop with the flopping. Play the game because
there's little kids that are impressionable that are they're taking
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it to their local you know, court and and flopping
for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thinking that's ball. It's not ball. So I was saying
here thinking about the Thunder.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
To your point, I think a lot of people in
Texas seven zero four seven zero starting to mess with team.
I think a lot of people feel that way about
the Thunder. They are not a very likable team to watch.
And you look at they're not a dynasty yet because
they have to win titles. You look at TENNAS season,
NFL and the NBA. The Warriors, you may hated them,
they were electric. Kobe and Shaq were electric. Look at
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the Patriots and Chiefs. You hated him, but Mahomes and
them were electric.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Hold on, wait a second, when have you hated an
entire team?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay, let's be honest. You said the Warriors. The only
person we hated was Draymond, right, Steph was It's hard
to hate Steph, Like how you can't you can't hate Steph.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
You couldn't hate Steph or even Clay when he was bawling,
you know, uh, not dribbling, just shooting. Like this is
the first time in a long time I've hated an
entire team. You got Sga flopping for no reason. You
got Beavis holding bro pick stop it just with the everything.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That guy, that guy is.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
The physical embodiment of nails on a chalk to me,
then you got evil kayu in in uh in Caruso.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Like, I there's something about the entire team, Like I
always felt like lou Dort was the enforcer, the guy
that you're supposed to hate. But I feel like I
hate the entire team and I love lou Dort now.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Because the Thunder the Thunder, the way they play basketball,
they're just a good team. They're not excited. Like Steph
revolutionized the three. Yeah, that was the splash you made.
It hated him, but they were. It was hard the
way that they would have vapated.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Never hated him, dude, I never hate it either. I
never hated the words.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, they would evaporate fifteen point leagues like like that easily,
and it wouldn'tn be a Kobe and Shaq.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You may hate the Lakers. That was electric.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That was that was something to watch. It was La
It was not shows him, but it was it was
that that team. Like there were stars on that team.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
I understand why people hated us, yes, right, but but
no one could sit there and say that Kobe and
Shack weren't electric.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No one could say that the thunder just don't.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Have that like must watch TV to me, only to
people that live in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, that's it. They got nothing else? Oh you football,
That's all so I do.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I'm curious with who do you think that gives the
Knicks or who do you think the Knicks can play
better against?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Man. I don't think the Knicks have a shot if
it's Okay, see if if Okay se goes in there
and plays their dirty game, I'm not sure they have
a shot.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm not saying they'll get swept.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I I feel like it's gonna be more of an
even matchup aside from Wemby, right, I feel like it's
gonna be more. We're gonna get a great series between
San Antonio and New York. What we're missing here, Okay,
what we're missing here is a billion dollar opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Follow me.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I hope that I have executives from uh television networks
at the moment. Okay, what you guys need to do
is just create a channel right now with cameras set
up all over New York City just to catch just watch,
just to watch the people of New York. Because we're
on the Precipice on the cusp of something special happening.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know if they're gonna burn the city down
if they won. I don't they won.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Seriously, I was telling you guys at the break, remember
when Randall Randall was the best player on the team
and they beat Trey Young and the Hawks in one game,
and they're like destroying Bridge. I mean, just like crazy stuff.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
It's like a scene from a from an Avengers film.
You know, like things are going to They're gonna flip
every hot dog cart, like it's gonna be Magi out
in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It is credit to the Knicks, though, because I think
we in a change in the NBA. Like how the
Knicks were built ten years ago. It was about get stars.
It was get a Big Three. It was you know,
with the Miami days and it was the Warrior days.
It was like you want stars, stars, stars are stars.
Now you're seeing what the team's left. They have stars.
Wemby Bronton SGA like the Knicks. It's really Bronson Cat,
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but Cat's on that level of superstar in a bunch
of compliment.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Pieces that listen.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
I think what we have with the Knicks is dudes,
that like each other. They love playing with each other.
They're like brothers. They really are, you know, from Did
I Lose You After All that? That's that's a cat reference.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
If you know social media, you got there.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
But listen, I feel like these guys play well together
because they love each other. They're they're at each other's
home for Thanksgiving like it's it's the Homies.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Podcast.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
They're playing with their friends and there's something special about that.
You know, the people that you came up with really
from from.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
College to now.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Let's let's take it to Heart and Brunson after the
uh the the cup. Yeah yeah, you saw how comfortable
Heart was with Brunson. Yeah you feel me. Yeah, those
are like you're hanging with your boys.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
But they they built the team with like just a
core group of guys, and they weren't star hunting because
everyone's like remember half at the halfway point, when the
Nicks were not playing good basketball, they were like, go
get Yannis. You has sent everything for Yanni's And I
think that plays into like the Lakers, the Timberls, like
all these teams are star hunting.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Is that the way to go in today's NBA?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
I don't know, man, I feel like, you know, if
you can organically build something amazing, which could have happened
with the Mavericks had they held on to Brunson, had
they held on to Luca, they might have had something
special down there, but they weren't patient. I feel like
with the Knicks, even though they have a terror ownership,
they found a way and these guys love to play together.
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That's the difference, is that these guys love to play together.
You watch San Antonio and everything funnels through the alien right. Yeah,
but you have some some help, some support on the side.
But there's something special about that kid man. This might
be the beginning. What did I say last week or
the week before, We're witnessing the beginning of his greatness.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, he might be able to pull it all the.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Way off during the Western Conference Finals and maybe even
take it to the Knicks. We'll see, But I think
we're in the middle of something special right now.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I want to flip it into football versaying I'm curious
about your Raiders because there's.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
A cool am I the better report today, James Palmer.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Is you're talking about OTAs, raving about Mendoza. You know,
typical stuff, pr stuff. But Ben I got a conversation earlier.
They said that Jant's gonna get a heavy workload this year,
and Kubiak has already talked about that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, I was looking at the schedule.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
So you guys got the Dolphins, Chargers, Saints, and it
picks up because the Chiefs, Paters. I believe the Bills
like it gets it gets the Rams are in there.
How many games before do you think Kirk starting week one?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I think I think the safe bet is to have
Kirk oat Chains out there for the first few weeks
to see how things go. I don't expect anything better
than a five hundred season unless something takes off, something
magical happens. But I just don't see that just yet.
I have to see it on the field.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I'm not the guy that goes, oh my gosh, Mendoza,
he's the savior, Oh my gosh, We're gonna change everything.
Yeah the last.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Thirty years, right, it's it's it's not gonna change overnight.
But I think we have the right pieces in place.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Where was you starting week one? Historically?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I'm with like, especially go like Mendoza, who is is?
You can't say like he has played a bunch of
college games. He's pro ready. The knock on Mendoza would
be does he have the the upside of some other guys?
Not in this but like with that regard, I'm like
starter right away. I don't get the hole. Just sit
him for a year and wait.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I'll watch these clips of Mendoza throwing on social media
and they're like, Oh, that's a pretty ball and whatever.
There's nobody rushing the quarterback. There's no coverage on the receiver,
you know what I mean, like in an in game situation.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I would love to see that first.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
And we're not going to get that until maybe I
don't know, you know, four or five weeks in.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Do you think a month in maybe pull it from Kirk? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Unless probably right off? Man, if great like Kirk go
with the hot hand.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Kirk will be the kind of guy who would have
like a Ryot Fitzpatrick type season.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, Kirk is the guy that will give you four,
you know, a thousand yards a season or whatever. Let's
say let's say he goes off first couple weeks. Oh,
this is the guy who we're gonna go with. And
Kirk is also the guy that will throw five picks
in a half.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Right, and you do feel like the Raiders done a
good job at setting the table like with the Jets
are doing right now. The Jets got Omar Cooper Junior,
they got Kenyan City like they're they don't have a quarterback,
but they're getting supporting pieces so that when they do
have a quarterback, they're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The Raiders has done.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
A good job at that with Bowers and Genty like
putting pieces on there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
They're gonna be key, They're gonna be key.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, Gino Gleasius Channel ninety three three, go take a
listen to them starting in fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes something
like that, something like that, something like that, I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
To I'm gonna push buttons down the hole.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Listen listen to them over on Channel nine three three.
You know you're the best, dude, Thank you for always
hopping on. Coming up next, Shaeffer and Slay little Crossover action,
getting talk to them, going along standing a Sports seven
sixty live on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Act Sammy Sliwa fifteen minutes of goodness. We call crossover exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's what I say.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Shaffer and Sleeve were here, I would like to announce that.
So if you were waiting, you're like, God, could Tammy
be Dunzie's batching me on? They're here, you'll hear them
from three to six, Alan, Alan, So you guys didn't
know each other super well before you got on air together?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Right, Well, I don't know if i'd go that far,
but you weren't together? Were we three years?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:13):
We went to college together. I mean we were high
school buddies.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
High school buddies. Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
You know this that if you listened to John Shaper
for years. He's a hardkucha fan. He is a he's
not a chugging tequila guy. He's a harkamucher guy. And
all of a sudden, Alan Siwa comes in here a
little groggy. He's like, ah, has a harkamuchi yesterday?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, actually I'm good. It was early enough in the
day where I'm fine, but I'm just not. You know, John,
we just don't drink like we used to. No, we
did today or yesterday.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
It was about an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
About an hour ago he was doing hard.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
No, I'm it's funny you say that because this is yesterday.
You had two three drinks. That's fair to say that
probably two. Let's stop pretending like trying to be something.
I'm not too as bind of Max. Right, I had
two Saturday nights. It's the long weekend. We were at
with some friends. Okay, but yeah, I will that's abnormal
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for me.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Are you a hold on? Are you a strictly harkimouchr?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Are you at a bar? Are you willing to doubt
at a margarita? Love a good mark at a mark?
But yeah, I'll drin kombucha, I'll.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Drink beers are great.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I love my issue. I've said this before.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Anytime I order a drink that's like especially drink, it
comes out with like flamingos in it and fireworks and
umbrellas and it's a biquet.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Of flowers, like everything comes out.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, I went to I happened to go to three
pottery games last week, which is very abnormal for me
because I want my buddy at tickets. And there was
a graduation thing and my friends like, you want to
go Sunday? I was like, yeah, sure, I took a
mortgage out of my house getting some drinks and games.
I mean, this thing is through the roof. What'd you
get just beer some tall boys. Let me guess, let
me and some tequila. It's minimum. It's a beer is
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minimum twenty?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Minimum? Yeah, minimum twenty. I spent forty seven dollars getting
two beers.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You got tickets. I bought him a drink, a beer.
I was like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Now that that whole thing is backwards, I don't know
what to tell you, and it's not going to churn
unless basically the fans revolt, like tell me what it's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Go bless God, blessed Peco. I mean, I get it.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Everybody's doing their thing, but it literally will not change
until people are.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like, you know, I'm not i'more.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
They so, what's your if you're if you're at a bar,
what is your go to like classy order? Like what
is like you're trying to like, what's your what's your
go to drink order that people know you buy?
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Well, nothing classy. I mean obviously course light if we want,
I mean what I usually get a course light. And
I first I asked them, I say, hey, as you
pour this in the in in my glass, just pour
a little.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And then I I.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Just want to kind of taste it well taste A
couple of times I've sent it back.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hey, nothing wrong with the silver bullet.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
There's nothing wrong with a silver bullet, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (38:03):
I would say that like a gin and tonic in
general underrated ordering. But then they're like, oh, is you
like any type of gin? I'm like bombay, I'm like yes,
just put the gin in it like I have. I
couldn't name one gin company if my life is on
the line.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Like what's the gin one?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You want?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Like house? Like I just want gin, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
That's like saying like order chocolate and like, oh, what's
your you want Hershey?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Right?
Speaker 8 (38:30):
I just want But that's different like people do have
in the alcohol world.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
They want a specific bourbon or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
That's not like what is the difference between bourbon and whiskey?
I always wanted this, like I've had, I got. I
was on like a whiskey drinking face. But is it
like it is still we have any brewers out there?
Speaker 4 (38:50):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
I don't know if I could sit here and tell you,
but what one of them is going to be like
smokier typically other one's going to be dryer I would call.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I like bourbon over whiskey. Okay, I'm a bourbon fan.
I like what's it?
Speaker 7 (39:04):
I had it when San Diego State was runs the
Final four and they went through Louisville.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
What's Louisville known for bourbon? Bourbon Bourbon street. No, that's
but the.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Bourbon drink that I what's a lock it up bourbon drink?
Everyone has it?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
A Kentucky mule. Oh, Kentucky, Kentucky Bourbon Kentucky.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Give me another popular bourbons, I mean the most popular drink,
Jack Daniels.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
But I really like buf Buffalo Trace, But those are
not the kind of liquor, not the brand.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
I love a good old fashion, but I don't feel
great the next day.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, it takes it. Old fashions with orange twists, orange origin.
Old fashions are good, really good, really good. Are you
do you guys drink watching games?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Are you a if? If you're at a ballpark getting beer,
the padres are making me drink.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
They give you a much a lottery by the way,
maybe they should try that. Yeah, Like, hey, I've watched before.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Swing Juice Tuesday night against the Phillies. Yeah, like if
I am Seriously. If I'm in a.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Ballgame, it's like June, Like, I'm not like sweating the
outcome of the game necessarily at a crazy rate, so
I'm drinking.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
But if I'm watching like a playoff.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Game, you know what I mean, Well, if it's the Chiefs,
right Like, if it's if the Chiefs in the playoffs,
I'm not drinking.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Let's put it this way. The Lakers are in games
like that's not how Let's put.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
It this way, Peckhull Park playoff game.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They don't drink.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
I'm not trying to have a beer, right I'm not
trying to enjoy myself.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I think that's what he's referring to, right Like, I'm trying.
That's the thing.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
When I'm in a game where I've got that ridiculously
fested interest in the outcome, I'm not leaving my seat.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I hate that.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
I don't want And I also don't want to get
up between half Fenix because everyone's getting up between half
finis because I just think of what I am, which
is they don't want to miss the game. Were during
the regular season, You're people are brewers.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
People are gonna get up.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
During the game, sure, but postseason Brewers NLCS or something.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I'm not getting up during the game.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I wouldn't, right, Yeah, it's not like yeah, especially going
to the concession. It always funny me in like baseball
is the only sport where like if you pay for
NFL tickets considering the prices, like you're gonna be there
for the full game, Like you're not. You're not showing
up in the third quarter, Like baseball is funny and
people will be like, ah, show up, yeah, yeah, you
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only you buy a ticket.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
Yeah, may show up at halfway through the first leave
it midway through.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
What was the thinking there? So if you didn't hear Alan, yeah,
you bought a ticket.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Game five?
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Game five, I didn't want to watch the dot. I
didn't want to watch the Podres lose.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
At Dodger Stadium. That was the thinking. But you could
have been that was the miraculous comeback.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
I could have and I was prepared to be there
if that happened. But if you watch any part of
that game, so you were just driving around LA traffic.
My girls places in Pasadena, Okay, so I'm fifteen minutes
away at most, and trust me, everybody's already in there.
That's all I didd was fifteen minutes to get in,
walked in and there there was no point of that
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game where I'm like, yeah, this is time. Now is
the time to go in?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Crazy thing? Was that one two zero? I know, it's
very like it was some blowout, like it was like
ninety to two.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
Right, let's put it this way. It happens again, I'll
go in and just take the l if that l
comes with.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
It, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean pay for a seat.
What you boys are coming up on the show.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
So there's an investment in that investment was an investment backfire.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It hasn't paid off. What did your girl think about
the investment in the bank account? She didn't care. She
didn't care, Like, yeah you do.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
She's she's she thought that she saw it was an
absolute nervous wreck. She's like, I just hope this man
is alive by the time this series is over.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
Tom McCarthy is the longtime television voice the Philadelphia Phillies
who are down to play the Padres Jonas coming up
at three thirty Darren Smith in front of the show
friend of the station. Well Jonas at four thirty.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Next Padres Nick. We might need him for two seconds
made for two hours.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I feel like for we got here, this is a
big series for the Pods because every time they stepped
up in NL competition, but would be the Brewers, Cubs
or Dodgers, they've lost the series. This is this And
like the Phillies point down on one, like you got
to show you can actually beat a team that's going
to be there in the NL playoffs to start talking
about Like.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
I don't disagree with that. I think it's a good assessment,
good take. Even Arizona, was it just a two games
sets one?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yep, that's good. That's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
We'll see what We'll see what happens. Keep listening to
these boys on the other side. We'll be back tomorrow
at twelve. Fletch and I keep on listening.