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Get to today, ladies and gentlemen, a lot to get to.
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Figure that if you're if you're interested in the game,
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We're gonna get into kind of everything around the world
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Come about thirty minutes, the UFC taking the show on
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interesting comments about the kind of numbers that this weekend's
fights are gonna do. I'm not sure I'm buying it.
We're gonna play that for you coming up in about
thirty minutes. Plus, Lebron says he's the ghats. He wouldn't
take anyone over himself. He got some spicy steven A.
Smith comments in response to that, got a lot to
get to coming up in about fifteen in regards to that,
But that batman Patrick Mahomes, and yes I am a
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diehard Chiefs fan.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But he just signed. He just got a rework deal.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So they added a bunch of money to his contract
and plum up the numbers right here.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He originally signed.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That ten year, four hundred and fifty million dollars deal
when he first got his big contract. The Chiefs per
Adam Schefter, adding two years to Mahomes contract, tying him
to the Chiefs to the twenty thirty three season at
a value of five hundred and four point seventy five million,
make it the first NFL deal valued it over half
a billion dollars per Ian Rappaport and him. So the
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new average for Mahomes yearly is going to be sixty
four mil. So there's a ton of money now. The
Chiefs are are doing something interesting right now, because we
got into it a little bit yesterday. Lamar Jackson is
in the middle of the negotiating contract and with the
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Baltimore Ravens, and when you hear that number of sixty
four million, you're like, well, I mean, how are the
Chiefs gonna be able to pay any players? How are
the Chiefs going to be gonna be relevant? Because they're
not gonna be able to pay the rest of the team.
And we've seen that over the years. We've seen that
when you pay the star quarterback, that can hurt. Now
we have a quarterback of Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrows,
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caliber Lamar Jackson. You're willing to do that because they're
able to make up for maybe subpar receivers. They're able
to fill kind of holes in your team because they're
that good. The problem in the NFL is when you
pay Kirk Cousins big money.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's the issue.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Because you pay Kirk Cousins big money back when he
was humming with the Vikings. Some could argue Dak Prescott.
I'm at Dak Prescott fan. I think Dak Prescott gets
a little bit of a bad rap. But he's currently now,
he's second. He makes sixty million dollars per year on average,
and you don't want to pay a mid level quarterback
great money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You don't want to pay a good quarterback great money.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You can pay great great money, but not good great money.
And the Mahomes deal off the jump like sixty four million. Wow,
what are the Chiefs gonna do with that? Well, Chiefs
have kind of been signaling this. What did they do
in the in the off season? They traded Trent McDuffie.
He's a ram now. They could have paid him thirty
thirty one million dollars a year. They elected not to
do that. They elected to get younger on defense, go
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in the first round, getting man Sword de Lane, getting
Peter Woods r Mason Thomas in the second round. The
Chiefs are doing what they did a few years ago,
just on the other side of the ball, what they
did with Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So the Chiefs traded Tyreek Kill, was like, what are
they doing?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean, why would you get rid of Tyreek Kill,
a young superstar in this league?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But they did it, And then they.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Drafted Trerent McDuffie, They drafted George carl Afins, they drafted
all these all this young talent in on the defensive
side who are on young, cheap contracts. You gotta get young.
Look at the Seattle Seahawks last year. Seattle Seahawks had
the youngest, one of the youngest. I believe they had
the youngest defense in the entire NFL in one of
the cheapest defenses in all of the entire NFL. And
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to Seattle's credit, look what they're doing. They let Kenneth
Walker go to the Chiefs. Actually they let sreak one
the corner, the big time corner for them go. You
have to make some cuts, and you know what do
they do to backfill Kenneth Walker? They select Generian Price,
the running back out of Notre Dame at that thirty
second spot in the in the in the first round.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So off the john You're sixty four million. Shocking. But
the Chiefs are kind.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Of doing something here because Mahomes has worked that money.
And when he signed that ten years, four and fifty
million dollars deal, everyone was like, I mean, what, you know,
how could how could the Chiefs be good? How are
they going to put anyone around him? The dirty little
secret there was everyone looks at the number of four
point fifty is the ten years because in the NFL,
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when you have a ten year contract, you're able to
expand money out over the years.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So if there's a year where you're a little bit cheaper.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
In terms of the salary cap, you can have your
quarterback Mahomes in this case, take a little bit more
of a cap hit and put more money tied against
him because you can afford it, and in the years
where you really need that money, you can shiit this
cap hit to other years. So I love the deal.
As a Chiefs fan, I'm happy they're taking care of Patrick.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Mahomes who was long overdue. He was before this deal.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Checking in at I'm trying to seize it was outside
of the top ten in terms of pay terms of
salary before this contract.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, he was making forty five million a year.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Dak Prescott leads the way before this contract today with
sixty million, Joe Burrows fifty five, Josh Allens fifty five,
Jordan Love fifty five million, Trevor Lawrence five million. So
you look at this list and then you got Matt Stafford,
Jared Goff, Brock Purty. Do you notice how the best
quarterbacks aren't necessarily at the top Joe Burrow, Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, but Lamar.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Jackson's down here a little ways curly at fifty two million.
He's negotiating contract right now. Don't think that the Chiefs
didn't look at their AFC rivals and go, okay, we're
gonna redo mahomes contract. So Lamar Jackson's gonna go, well,
I might not be Mahomes at sixty four million, but
I damn sure I'm better than Dak Prescott at sixty
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I have better resume than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I I got two MVPs of my name.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So you're gonna capturing some of these other other teams
that are looking to pay their quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And the salary cap is constantly going up.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But you look at that top ten, So Dak Prescott,
Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, Matt Stafford,
Jared Goff, Brock Perty, Justin Herbert, and then Lamar Jackson
and then Mahomes at the top.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Now, the list I'm looking at hasn't been updated.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But it is funny, like, would you say Trevor Lawrence
is a A plus quarterback?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think Trevor Lawrence has moments and could develop into something.
But and you saw it kind of breakout last year.
But he's not. He's not top six in the NFL.
Quarterback money Jordan Love. Jordan Love is the egregious one
I know, Brent. I'm assuming you feel the same way
as Bears fan. Jordan Love got paid off of one
game when they destroyed the Dallas Cowboys in the wild Card.
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That they destroyed the Dallas Cowboys in the Wildcard I
believe three four years ago, and then kind of played
Adam Ley against San Francisco in that Divisional round, ended
up losing the game, and he got paid. Now, you
could argue Jordan Love hasn't had a great supporting cast
around him, but I certainly don't think Jordan Love deserves
me in the top five. Josh Allen, of course, Joe Burrow,
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Dak Prescott is kind of an anomaly and that when
you play for the Dallas Cowboys, you have a stardom
around you because the Cows are the biggest brand in
the NFL. And I do think Dak Prescott, like when
he became the highest paid quarterback, people were like, oh,
it's a terrible deal with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is Dak Prescott a plus quarterback?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But I would say for what the Cowboys to put
Dak Prescott through with coaching changes from Jason Garrett to
McCarthy to now the Schottenheimer all of Jerry Jones BS,
I mean trading Michael Parsons getting Jerry Jones or not
getting getting Ceedee Lamb and you know, Ezekiel Ellie kind
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of fell off a few years into his career, like
Dak Prescott has dealt with a lot. So it's a
little bit of overpay, sure, But in regards to quarterback contracts,
like Lamar's gonna want to reset the market. Jalen Hurts
and the Eagles have an interesting situation like a lot
of people want to bang on him and go ah,
Jalen Hurts is not top quarterback. Well, Jalen Hurts only
makes only makes only makes fifty one million a year,
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and in terms of quarterback hierarchy standards, that's that's a
fringe top ten guy. So the Eagles are kind of
getting a bargain here. And you know, whatever you think
about Jalen Hurts, maybe he has limitations in the passing game,
he certainly has earned the respect of being the maybe
eleventh highest paid quarterback, probably higher. It's gotten a little
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bit of a deal. The quarterback mark is always going
to reset. So Mahomes three Super Bowls gonna be at
the top, and the Chiefs again got cheap on defense
this year and feel like they can afford the money now.
Travis Kelcey gonna be his last year in all likelihoods,
so there's some money coming off the books the Chiefs
are gonna be fine with. But it's always been thought
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of as if you don't know if your quarterback's the guy,
like sign him to a shorter term deal. If you
remember Dak Prescott's first deal, people were concerned. They were
talking about a three to four year deal. And with
a four year deal with a guy making sixty million dollars,
there's nothing you can do with the cap. He can't
move the money anywhere. But what teams have started doing,
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and the Chiefs are one of the first.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To do this.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The Bills followed suit the Bengals giving quarterbacks long term
deals with many years where the number looks really big
in terms of the amount of payment going to them,
but when you spread it out over years, you really
have the flexibility to move the cap around and afford
that slot receiver, afford that you know, third safety that
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really many Super Bowl teams have to have to get
over that hump. So Patrick Mahomes reset in the market
excited about that. I'm curious to see what other quarterbacks
kind of have their deals ripped up and how long
he'll be the top the top paid quarterback, because I
assume not long with many deals coming up here pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
On the other side, we got Lebron James, Lebron James
in the news again talking about that he would not
take anyone over himself.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
In terms of the goat debate, We're gonna hear from
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Speaker 2 (12:23):
Are you Jordan? Are you Lebron?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Terms of the go conversation, where are you? Because Lebron
commented on it today. Lebron, an interview for Time Magazine
doing a piece on him on himself, said I'm not
taking nobody over me.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
To set up this clip, Lebron did say, I think
Mike would say the same thing, talk about Michael Jordan
rest his soul. Kobe would say the same thing, Magic
would say the same thing. Bourb would say the same thing.
I don't think none of us are gonna take somebody else.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
He did say.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
If there's a general manager, though, and he's eyeballing all
of us on a baseline with the number one pick,
it's gonna be hard not to take me Champs.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And that's what Lebron said. Now.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Steve Nay Smith on First Take Today reacted to these comments.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Not too thrill with Lebron's comments about himself being the goat.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He's talking about.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
They would say the same thing. No, they wouldn't. Michael
Jordan would never tell you he's the goat. I know
Michael Jordan, I speak to him often. I'm telling you
he has never, ever, ever, once called himself the greatest.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Ever, it has never happened.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Kobe Bryant didn't call himself the greatest. Kareem didn't call
himself the greatest. Magic, didn't call himself the greatest. Bird,
didn't call himself the greatest.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
No, that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He could say.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
They might have thought it, but they never articulated it
to a reporter for print purposes, to be disseminated to
the masses. It is Lebron James, which brings us to
Lebron James.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Why would he do that?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Because the man is addicted to trying to control the narratives.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Steven A and Lebron not going out to dinner, not
going out to dinner tonight. I uh, look, steven A
is not wrong. Now I'm a Laker fan, but I
am a Jordan guy. I will admit I would give
it to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Because there's two.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
There's many different things when you talk about the goat
of something, especially if it comes to basketball. This is
why you have so many different opinions, because you have
people who think the goat is accumulation of stats. If
you are a stats guy, you like personal accolades, then
Lebron's your guy.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He is the all time points scorer.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm not totally sure, but I believe he has the
most playoff wins ever something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I mean, he has all the personal records that you
could won.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But when I look at GOAT, when I look at
best player of all time, I'm thinking about a killer
who dominated their decade more than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And no one did that better than Michael Jordan. Michael
Jordan left to go.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Play baseball for two years in the middle and then
had a three PET on the front end and three
PT on the back end. Now we got talkback that
maybe we'll play later, a couple of talkbacks again, get
your talkbacks in here top right corner. What are your
thoughts on Lebron's comments about himself. But I judge greatness
in the GOAT, But did you dominate your era?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And Mike dominated? Lebron is an unbelievable player.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And you can talk about the longevity, the the fact
that he's still playing at a high clip. He was
the best player in that series against the Houston Rockets
when the Lakers took him on in the postseason last year.
He's exceptional. He is one of the greatest athletes of
all time. But I don't see like Lebron has won
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four rings and I know a lot of people go, oh,
look at all the championship appearances.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I mean, we can play this game left and right,
you could do.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
People want to go, oh, Jordan didn't have the same
level of competition, really, Reggie Miller, keem olajuwon Whan, John Stockton.
There are a lot of guys that were early on
in his career, the tail ends of Bird and Magic.
Lebron has had a stiff competition in the West. Now
you can make the argument, I mean the East for years.
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Who are the best teams that he had to go through?
The Celtics, Like Brent, what would you say, who are
the best teams he had to go through in the
Eastern Conference? The Celtics with Rondo, Pierce Garnett in Allen,
those teams were lethal. Would it be Paul George and
Lance Stevenson?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The Pacers?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I mean, but if we think about Lebron's career in
the Eastern Conference, who would the toughest competition be. Now,
he took care of that Pacers team, the Bulls with
d Rose and Boozer in them for a year or two,
but d Rose injured himself. I guess you could point
to the early Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum teams. That was
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amazing when Lebron in Game seven went into Boston. I
believe he had like forty five points something like that.
But there's so much that goes into this debate in
love here from you seven zero four seven zero, start
your mess with a team, or shoot us to talk
back again, or a call eight seven to seven seven
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Speaker 2 (17:16):
I also find it interesting that this comes out now.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Lebron is in the headlines because he has a big
decision to make. I mean, he age forty two, probably
one year left. We keep saying that with Lebron probably
though one year left, and Lebron wants to play for
a winner. So of the options Lebron James has coming
into these playoffs, we're talking about it, it was return
to the Lakers, go to Cleveland, go to the Knicks,
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and go to the Warriors. Now I think the Knicks,
if they win the NBA Finals, that's off because if
the Knicks win the NBA Finals, what benefit does Lebron
going there.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Let's say the Knicks won the NBA Finals, and then.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Let's say the Knicks repeated next year with Lebron James
do for Lebron's legacy outside of playing in Madison Square Garden.
They're gonna say, okay, you joined, you joined a championship team,
the Cavs. It would be the return again. But he's
already done that and that team feels like a mess.
Donovan Mitchell, James Harden. It just has never worked, Evan Mobley,
Jared Allen, Max Shruce. They should be so much better
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on paper than they are or on the court than
they are, and they they're just not. Then it really
leaves with the Lakers in the in the Warriors, because
the Warriors is kind of interesting.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
In that.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Certainly the NBA would love it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean you talking about ratings, Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry,
Draymond Green, Lebron, the kind of retirement tour together, Steve Kerr.
It'd be like getting Team USA back together and it
would draw ratings. Now, I don't know if that team wins,
because I don't know if that team can stay healthy
through an entire eighty two game season. But on the
flip side, I do think that if they were in
a playoff series, they would be a tough out if
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they were all healthy, which is a major if it's
a massive if, they would be a tough out for
a lot of teams, and it leaves the Lakers because
the Lakers in Lebron are in a weird spot in
that the Lakers are like new ownership group in the
Walter the Walters group, who owns owns part of the
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Dodgers owns the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It's like they've been in this transition phase for a
long time.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Where Luca got traded a year and a half ago,
the team wasn't equipped to go win because it was
dropped in their lap at the trade headline. They try
to build on the fringe's last offseason, acquiring Jake Laavia,
signing him DeAndre and Marcus Smart, and to their credit,
most of those signings worked out. Marcus Smart was great.
I think Jake Larravia overall had a good season. Don't
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get me sorted on Deandreyden.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think with the amount of money they had to
work with, they made some good signs.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Now is the first offseason that it's like they're ready
to turn the Ferrari over to Luca, the car Keys
over to Luca and build this team. And you have
a massive question mark is Ree's coming back? Is Lebron
coming back? And does does the Lakers timeline match with
Lebron James Because Lebron James doesn't care if the Lakers
are good four years now.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
He hears about the Lakers are winning a championship next year.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We can get this a little bit more on the
other side, plus a little little NBA Finals breakdown, as
well as the UFC the Freedom two fifty card on
Sunday Data White thinks the ratings might be bigger than
a certain event.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We're gonna play that for you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
On the other side, going along standing of Sport seven
sixty live on my Heeart Radio act. We're talking about
on the in the last segment about the whole Lebron
calling himself to goat and that nobody he would take
nobody over him. And I guess it's the right mindset
to have because if I was a superstar athlete, I
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probably would be thinking the same thing. I just don't
get why this is coming out now. I don't understand
why Lebron. I get he was doing a Time magazine piece,
but I don't understand what this does for him outside
of having his name in the media, which we put
some you know steven A Smith talking and steven A
was right about that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Steven A.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Lebron is very good about keeping his name in the
national media. I mean, Rich Paul Lebron is Lebron's campus
genius in the sense of if he wants shooters added
to the team, or he wants once players added to
the to the Lakers roster, anything he wants out there
will get out there. It's just never Lebron saying it.
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It comes to Rich Paul. It comes from his network,
all the different kinds of reporting. He's never the one
being going out on the limb and saying something crazy.
Lebron is very good at protecting his image that way.
So it's just interesting that we've heard so much of
with the Lakers maybe moving on and looking for to
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kind of hand the keys to Luca. We've heard so
much out of the Rich Paul camp of well Lebron.
You know, Lebron's needs the Lakers to propose him an offer,
and he no one would take you know, he wouldn't
take anyone over himself. It's like Lebron is pushing a
narrative out there, maybe to drive his money up, to
drive his legacy up whatever it may be, but he
certainly is. We're asking for your talkbacks, your little red
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microphone in the top right hand corner.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
What are your thoughts on the go debate? Lebron or Jordan? Brenda?
Believe what was the first one? That way we got here?
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Oh my goodness, here we go again, pretending like Michael
Jordan only went to the playoffs six times.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
In his career.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
I remember him getting out of the bounced out of
the first round time and time again, while Lebron took
Anderson veraj out and Junis Ilgauskas to the NBA finals.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And somehow we hold that against him.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Go watch some basketball kid.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What happened in the Oh yeah they lost? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh yeah they lost that finals. Look, I appreciate the
talk back, but are we are we giving him? Are
we giving him credit for losing in the finals? That
is the typical Lebron argument. Look what he said he
got to the finals. Well he also got to the finals.
And the point I was making earlier in the Eastern
Conference being weak. So he dominated Eastern Conference for a decade.
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Do you think Lebron I have had the same success
that he wants to the West and by the way,
when Michael got there, he closed it was six or
six Lebron outside of coming back down three to one,
you can make the same argument that had a real
and not hit that shot against the Spurs in the corner,
he would have won that championship.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I mean, there's so many what ifs.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm like, no, he he's not the goat for taking
Kavalawskis and anders At Verjal to the finals.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Brent, we got out of one of there. That'd stopped
the nonsense.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
Michael is the goat period and of discussion, Lebron barely
makes the top ten. You want the honest truth, I
go Michael, Magic, Hilary, those are my top three.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Okay, Lebron not making the top ten. I can't get
with you on that, but I appreciate the sentiment about Michael.
I am with you on Michael Jordan. Lebron James is
a top two, top three player of all time. I
mean what he has been able to do. I'm not
even hating on Lebron. I'm not trying to rip Lebron James.
I like Lebron, but the the the constant like Lebron
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fans trying to in Lebron's social media team and you
know Clutch Sports, Rich Paul's agency, trying to explain to
us why he's so much better Michael. To steven A's
point he made earlier, Michael Jordan doesn't come out and
say I'm the goat. He just let his play do
the talking. Kobe God rest his soul, just let his
play do the talking. All these guys just went out
there on bald and het Lebron. It feels like it's
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a constant campaign telling us why he should be he
should be the goat.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
Back to that guy's talk back that said that he
lost in the first round time and timing. He only
lost in the first round three times, eighty five, eighty six,
and eighty seven first seas, first three years in the
league before they had a team belt around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Right, exactly, So when he had a team built around him.
And you want to talk about okay, I mean, now
you got me on on tangent. Now you want to
talk about people want to go you know he has Scotti. Okay,
does Scotty win two rings in the middle when Lebron?
When when when Michael went to go play baseball, No,
he didn't look look, Lebron, Lebron's you know with Chris
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Bosh and in twenty Wait.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm not trying to rip Lebron. I like Lebron.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I just think that this narrative that he constantly puts
out there touting himself gets excessive, and I think this
is why you have a lot of pushback today. All Right, So,
the the UFC has a massive main event this weekend,
by the way, the patter's out to to at Peco Park.
Will keep you updated on that game, and certainly when
it goes final, will get you We'll get you full
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coverage of that. Dana White said he is expecting bigger
numbers for the what do they call it Freedom two
fifty car this weekend than this super Bowl exactly. That's
Brent made a face. You can't see it, but yeah,
that's not happening. Data that is one thousand percent. I mean,
you're gonna be very disappointed if that's the expectations you're
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going in with, because there's no shot this thing is
coming anywhere close to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Super Bowl averaged with Bad.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Bunny doing a halftime show, I believe it peaked at
one hundred and thirty million one hundred and thirty two
something like that. The game average one hundred and twenty
three hanging around that. Can you imagine that the Seattle
Seahawks in New England Patriots. It was a bad game,
like it was unless you were a Seahawk or Patriot fan,
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and probably not if you were a Patriot fan. It
wasn't even that entertaining of a game. It was just
Seattle kind of kind of dominated. They dominated, but it
was never really out of reach until until it was.
So the UFC thinking that this is gonna do, this
is gonna do Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Numbers is crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm not getting the whole political aspect of it. I personally,
I don't think there should be a file on the
White House lawn regardless of who the president is. But
that's the whole conversation for another day. In terms of
the fights, it's interesting to me that, like we look
at these odds, so you have a lot of stars
on the card. You have you have Taporia and Gai
Chee the main event, two very big names. Alex Pereira's
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on the card. You got Bo Nickel. They're trying to
make a superstar Sugar Shan O'Malley Michael Chandler. There's a
lot of big names on this UFC card. The problem
is there's not a lot of great matchups. Now there's
gonna be fun ways to find betting with this, but
outside of Cyril Gone and Alex Pereira in the co main.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Event, there's not a pick them fight like the main event.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Elliotts to Portia is a seven over seven to one
favorite to beat gae Chee. This fight is brings a
lot to it in that it's certainly an event on
the White House lawn, and the fact that he thinks
it's gonna draw bigger numbers is crazy because you have
a lot of country who, regardless who the president is,
not gonna watch it. And then you have UFC is
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a niche sport and it's violent, so that's gonna take
some people out that simply just don't don't like watching it,
don't don't don't don't enjoy it because it is certainly
a sport you gotta stomach a little bit. But I mean,
all these fights seem like we all know what Dana
White's doing. The UFC has done an excellent job over
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the years of capitalizing what boxing. Couldn't they really need
each other boxing in the UFC, because the UFC has
done an amazing job of giving people the fights they
want to see and giving competitive fights from young prospects boxing.
Something that has really hurt the sport is they don't
pit young fighters up against good young fighters. They haven't
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fight Tomato cans. Everyone since Foyd Mayweather got so concerned
with being fifteen. Oh, you don't want to lose your
Oh you cannot have a loss, And it's really hurt
the sport because may Packy had seven losses, Mike Tyson
had losses, George Foreman had losses, Muhammad Ali had losses.
These guys all fought each other. Sugar Ray Leonard had losses.
And when you're fighting and you're constantly in fifty to
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fifty fights, you are not going to win every fight,
but you get the fans what they want. I would
much rather watch a fighter who gets in there versus
the best and has a couple losses. In today's world,
I'd say Ryan Garcia is like that. Fought Gervonte Tank
Davis fought Devin Haney won that one even though it
was overturned to a no contest, fought Roly Romero.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Fought a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Even though he has a couple of losses, people still
want to see Ryan Garcia fight versus guys who hand
picking shoes, opponents that they feel like they have an
easy time beating and they can sell and make and
make money on the fights. The UFC's done a great
job of just giving us fights you want to see. Now,
something UFC could learn from boxing boxing is way more
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stars in it, way more stars. Ryan Garcia, Geronte Tank, Davis, Tyson, Fury,
Canelo Alvarez, Terrence Budd Crawford, even though he retired. There
is a lot of stars in boxing, whereas the UFC
has lacked star power since Connor McGregor. And it's an
interesting time for the UFC in that McGregor carried it
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for a long time, going back before they got Tito
Ortiz and Chuck O'Dell and then recently, you know, over
the years you've had Israel out of Sonia has been
up there, John Jones, Alex Pereira and outa sign he's
on his way out.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He's on a four fight losing streak.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
John Jones rarely fights, is getting up there in his
late thirties and once out of his UFC contract, and
even Alex Perera is like thirty seven to thirty eight
years old. They signed him to an eight fight deal,
but he's getting up there at age because he joined
the UFC late. And Sugar Shan O'Malley was kind of
supposed to take the role from Connor McGregor. Is maybe
the face of the of the promotion, but he he
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hasn't really followed up with as many wins. He had
that amazing win against al Jamaine Sterling, big time knockout,
and he didn't do it against you know, lost in
brob a couple of times. So this car when you
look at it, like Sugar Shawn Mamalley's a four to
one favorite to Poria is a seven to one favorite
to Poria against Gayshi will be a fun fight and
then I think they're both gonna stand up and there
won't be a lot of wrestling, so we're gonna get
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a big knockout either way. But this feels like a
promotion where on the White House lawns there's gonna be
a lot of eyeballs to it. In you it's trying
to set up a face of the UFC. They're trying
to get some big KOs so people can get behind someone.
They're kind of pulling it all out, boxing with their
hand pick and choosing who is gonna fight where, and
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that hasn't really been the UFC's model. Maybe we get
some great fights, but we'll see. We'll love to tune him,
all right, Come up next, we get to crossover. Alen
Slee what John Schaeffer, that's coming up next? Going along
Standing in Sports seven sixty Live with My Heart Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Act Sammy.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Fifteen minutes of Goodness.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We call crossover.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Sir Will on YouTube says in response to uh, Dana
White saying that the the UFC Freedom to fifty will
do bigger numbers super Bowl, so I think everyone will
still be focused on the World Cup as well. Yeah,
he's crazy, Dana White, Like, there's no shot you are
doing a bigger numbers that there was nothing else on
TV than the.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Super bowls demolishing, demolishing super Bowl numbers.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
What do we what's this weekend? This weekend? Exactly this
weekend this week is it?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's the White House fight they're doing the they're calling
it the Freedom.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
To UFC Fight House Fight.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh it's okay, that would be enterlighting out of the.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Sixth district of South Carolina. Right, I'll watch that thirteenth
that might get that might get Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Can you imagine we put some big time matchups presidential
candidates over the years.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
This is how he said for the Yeah, that's definitely
not I listen it. It will pull because of the
curiosity to see what this thing looks like.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
Pulland who how do you watch it?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Is it like the paramount of Paramount plus. It's not
pay per view, it's just paramount plus.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Which, by the way, to that end, who is paramount plus?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
This is Yeah, he was comparing like the Netflix numbers
like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. But everyone has Netflix,
so I think people tune in and go, okay, I'll
watch this.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Was Netflix free for that for that specific I think
that fight was free.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
The fight was free if you had a subscription. You
don't have to pay anything just having that right. It
wasn't like a like a firewall to pay the bucks.
But yeah, it's kind of kind of great. We got
the World Cup on this weekend.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
Well, Schaefer's got He's got a few different people he
uses outside of just like whatever the membership is for paramount,
So just hit Shaeffer up. He's got a guy that
knows a guy you meet at a local store parking lot,
you pass the password from there.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I gotta be honest. I have never been No, I
just I haven't been a UFC guy. I have at
times been a boxing guy. I have been a boxing
guy UFC to me, and now I go all the
way back. Alan might as well, Brent may as well. Brent,
do you remember the very like on set of UFC
when there were it was truly no rules, right, other
than gouging. There was a pair of time where it
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was only it was literally no weight classes and gouging
were like the only rules, right.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The first the first big us those days.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Yeah, let's go on. What's happened to this country? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Alan?
Speaker 8 (34:36):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
You said that all these rules all of a sudden,
this is America? Was was was Chuck Lendell and Tito Ortiz?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
A big deal?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Was that the first time the UFC the reds double
play combination? Why are you talking about the reds now? Well,
I just don't know anything about UFC, but it is
it's it's not the discredit, it's so no right, But
I don't think it reaches Does it reach the same
amount of people A serious questions as other very popular
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American styles manjor League baseball, Like UFC more popular than baseball?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think no, because if you it's a it's a
niche sport in that the violence of boxing or UFC
is going to turn such people off.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Some people off immediately.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Okay, more popular UFC or boxing right now, I'm assuming
you have CUFC obviously.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
By the way, that's you know, saying something go back
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 10 (35:28):
If you would have said boxing is second to UFC,
everybody say, are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
If they have dominated the last ten years the UFC,
it's starting to flip in.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
The sense of, as you say this, I think.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
The UFC with with no connorm or gregor no Israeli
of signing some of their big stars have all aged out,
whereas boxing doesn't always get the fights we want. But
like they have recognizable names Keel Alvarez a recognizable name,
Tyson theory, like people know who that is.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
But and you've also said, hasn't boxing kind of leaned
into that like celebrity angle, like some tried to get
the why appeal I mean, I don't like it.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
It's become gimmicky.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
It's gimmicky where I still think UFC has I'll find
myself randomly like I'll watch it will come, but I'm
not even watching anything today. I'll see like the Nate
Diaz fight first whatever. Yeah, I'll watch old stuff because
maybe I know who those fighters are. I don't know
if that's the attraction, but yeah, boxing has become gimmicky.
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The last thing, the last thing you want to be
if you're a real sport, is you become gimmicky and
you got whether it's Paul or it's Tyson or it's complete,
didn't it kind of?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I feel like if major League Baseball, to your point,
a popular American sport all of a sudden, like well,
we see the popularity now the Savannah bananas under if
a ball is caught by fantasy out.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Like, you can't you can't do that, I.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Mean, and to the to the point, it's like individual
sports are so weird in that don't go city under.
They became popular because they just won games. Do you
end up playing in big games? Major League Baseball, if
you win enough, you're gonna be playing in big games.
Whereas just because you're a great fighter, it doesn't mean
you're in a big fight, or doesn't mean that you're
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you're appealing to the masses. You may be a great fighter,
but you may be boring to watch, and that doesn't
equate to eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like just if the pottery is go on and keep
you know, not keep winning.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
If they win and got through the playoffs, people are
going to know who the San Diego Potters are in
their stars because they kept winning throughout and they're on
the They're gonna be on the biggest stage.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Whereas like us popularity, right.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
Are there tickets for? Like is this a ticket? Is
a large against.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's like it's like three thousand. I believe it's all military.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
Wow wait wait, wait, wasn't the original plan. I thought
the original plan that this thing was gonna I thought
it was gonna be huge, but I saw the setup
didn't look huge.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's only three thousand because it's on the lawn, it's.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Like in it.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
I wonder if that was always the plan or not.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And the other part about this that could really be
crazy is if outdoor fights over the years, weather can
play a.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
Facular absolutely summertime in DC, it can rain right.
Speaker 12 (38:13):
Right, Yeah, it's limited to four thousand and three hours.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yes, that's four thousand not much, right, that's notine.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Are they going to have other Wasn't there speculation or
discussion of them having more fights there? Like leaving this
as a permanent structure.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
There is a promotion giving away approximately eighty five thousand
free tickets or fans to watch on large screens across
the street.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
Okay, so you can watch like in Washington, these three
so like a watch like.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
The Knicks, like watch part I don't think it's strong much.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
The next time, but once the fifth game in the
anday Saturday, Saturday, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I we got that. We got the World Cup tomorrow, dude,
it's a must win. Yeah it was.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
It was originally envisioned for an in person crowd of
twenty to twenty five thousand, and now it's been off that.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
By the way, though, I'm being serious.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
When Mexico plays at home against South Africa tomorrow a Teca,
you have to win the match.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Wait, hold on, hold on, right toal forgot I buried
the lead. I was saying to you, guys, drive around
in a snake. Wait what you're going to Mexico Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
We're going to Mexico, going to Mexico, Monterey, Mexic next
weekend for Cup game for who's playing Japan?
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Of course, Japan and Tunisia and Tunisia. I'm going for Tunisia.
He's connected to Japan.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Are we what?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
What I question?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
I'm confused what you're continuing about?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Confused?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
We both I wanted the World Cup experience. I don't
want to go to Inglewood and spent four thousand dollars
to watch them.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
But it would be it be America.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
No, I understand that Inglewood is in America.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, No, I'm saying America is playing in Inglewood on Friday.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Yeah, we're trying to watch good soccer.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Do you really like seriously they spend four thousand dollars
to watch the US soccer team when you can go
to Moneray, Mexico and watch your box?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah? Who the idea? Who started this? You said, let's
take a trip down there. Yeah, you guys got where
you're staying. I don't even know the whole trip planned out.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
Yeah, the whole trips already, everything's already paid for. John
took care of everything.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Now, is it gonna work?
Speaker 8 (40:14):
It's gonna be executed proprobably part of the experience. I
better get down there, get down there.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Am I invited? Sure, am I Yeah, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Man, let's not lie.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Here is very random what we're doing. It's one of
the most random things said. Yesterday, I told a buddy
of mine. I was telling him. I'm like, yeah, I'm
going to the World Cup. He's like, okay, why, I'm like,
you know, but I'm going to Mexico and Monterey. He's like,
who's playing. I'm like, Japan Tunisia.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You gonna watch out for that Tunisia back line?
Speaker 8 (40:53):
He was and more confused every time. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Gat what we gotta come up with the show today?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Japan Tunisia talk Kevin A c At five point thirty.
We're talking about the Bill Walton Classic with Mark Neville.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
Okay for San Diego.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
If these dudes win, if they lose today, brother, yeah,
I got nothing reaction.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
After they're done. I'll be back tomorrow at twelve o'clock.
See guys then,