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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm going along with Shammy. That's gonna be hot on
the story of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Plus he's warning no, it's Sammy Long Potters can't hit.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Jalen Bronson is the hero New York and AJ Brown's
and heavy. That's what we got going on the show today.
Wide variety of stuff. We're getting two plus World Cup
insider Coleman Clayton my guy gonna be joining me, getting
us all one week out from the World Cup, Gonna
get us some betting nuggets and things to watch out
for again, whether you are a massive soccer fan, whether
(00:40):
you're just kind of tune in for the World Cup,
kind of gonna inform me a lot about what we
should be looking for some of the top storylines. So
excited to get to talk to Coleman. Coming up in
about thirty minutes. We'll start with the pods Man Darny
trip had it.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Darny Trip had.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So the If we go back a few weeks two
and a half weeks, the Patres beat the Los Angeles
Dodgers one to zero for a half game lead in
the NLS.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
The Potteris have gone three and ten since.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Katiz over for today, michild did hit a two run
shot off Zach Wheeler. Give him credit in that kind
of took him deep into the count and got after him.
Merrill hit a two run shot in the ninth inning.
But this team is the team is hard to watch
right now. We've been talking about it for the last hour,
So shoot us a call. Just vent eight seven seven
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seven six seven for seven sixty again eight seven seven
seven six seven four seven sixty. Is it time to
think about about selling off with the deadline? That that's
what I was thinking because their ESPN put out an
article today about potential trade deadline targets for for every team,
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and the Pottery's got named as Trek scoogle. Now every team, literally,
the Phillies, the Dodgers, all these teams got named Terrek Scooball.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So it's a little bit blown out of proportion. But
Schooble's obviously the the the big prize in this trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
There's always a couple of big time pitchers who could
change teams, and Schooble is that kind of guy, one
of the best pitchers in baseball. The pottery saw him
here on Opening Day and absolutely shoved against them.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
But I'm hearing about the Pottery's being linked to them.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
In does anyone feel like the Potter's are a trek
scoobl away from being in the World Series conversation. I mean,
their record against teams above five hundred is futrid.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
The only two series wins that I point to them
go that was impressive from the boys was both series
wins over Seattle, they swept.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Them six to zero.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Outside of that, I mean, all the teams that they
would be facing in the NL. You have the Phillies, oh,
win six against them so far, just got swept over
the last two weeks. The Dodgers you're one and two again,
the Diamondbacks. You're one and one against. The Cubs. You're
one and two against the Brewers, you're one and two
against you don't have series with the Nationals.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
You're one and two against.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
All the teams that you would be needing to beat
to get to the World Series. The Potteries have either
come up short against.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Or the or just not shown up at all. And
it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's frustrating watching the team because, like I've watched bad
baseball teams that just don't have enough talent, this team
makes no sense in that. The pitching staff, the bullpen
not the best example today because more home than that
his best outing, and the bullpen is not as dominant
as it was last year. Mason Miller is dominant, the
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bullpen is not quite as dominant. Jeremiahestrada hasn't really been
the same pitcher since halfway through it last year when
the Dodgers really let him up over over a two
week span, and those two those two weekends series last
year in August Morown hasn't been quite the same guy.
You know, Brad Giy Rodrigue has been pretty good overall,
but the bullpens not the problem. The bullpen overall has
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been good metrically. They rank up there towards the top
in the starting rotation. Have they been great?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But I come on here every day and I'm not
pinning this on the starting rotation.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I mean, gi Alido, did he have his best day? No,
he was fine.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Walker Buehler gave him a chance yesterday once again once
again against Christopher Sanchez. Walker Buehler is giving the Potterys
hitters opportunities to stay in this game at home and
on the road, and the Potterres bats, which have been
a kneemack have been nowhere to be found. So Raandy
Vasquez given good starts, has the starting rotation been fantastic? No,
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but considering the injuries, I think they deserve a lot
of props. They are certainly not. The reason while the
potteris are in the spot. Potters are in the spot
is because watching them one through nine is it's just
it's hard. There is no consistency whatsoever. They refuse it
at starting pitch. And this is why I think the
record against teams about five hundred is not good because
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when you're playing the Rockies, you can mess around to
the first seven innings and in the eighth and ninth
try to just you know, hit your way out of
it because the bullpen's not good that they don't have
a good pitching staff, so you're allowed to have more
lee way with not getting a starting pitching because you
know the bullpen is probably worse than they're starting pitching.
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When you play elite teams in the NL of the ALE,
and the NL is loaded with talent this year, way
better than the ALE. The ALE only has a couple
of really good teams. You have the Yankees, the Rays, Guardians,
have heated up a little bit, maybe the Mariners get back,
but the AL is not is not stacked like it's
been in years past. The NL is loaded. And when
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you play, when you don't hit starting pitching, it means
that you have to, you know, go up against Johan Duran,
one of the best closers in all baseball, and the
Phillies in the ninth The Dodgers didn't you have Edwin
Diaz for their series, but they have an excellent bullpen.
Your Rebay for the Brewers, I give the Pottery's credit.
Gavin Sheets took them on a three run home run
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in that Game two against Milwaukee. But your Rebay is
a great, great closer. So when you face these great closers,
it's like you can't just rely on yeah every once
in a while, like the Dodgers got to Mason Miller
on that you know, on that one night in Game two.
But the chances of getting to Mason Miller night in
night out, if Mason Miller gets the ball with a
chance to win it, chances are the Potteris are winning
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that game. So yeah, every once in a while, maybe
Miller gives one up or Deran gives one up, or
ed when Diaz or one of these guys, but relying
on that night in night out, it's just simply not feasible.
So that's why I personally think the record against teams
above five hundred is not good because they can't hit
starting pitching, and these teams bullpens are good and when
they play subpar teams, they're able to get to these
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bullpens because eventually these hitters are able to come through.
So text me, text me seven zero four to seven zero.
Start your message with team T would you buy or sell?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
The deadline?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
We had coaching Tara on about what forty minutes ago,
and I asked coach about when is.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
It time to start thinking about that?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
When is it time to kind of switch the mindset
to where you maybe trade one of the stars. Maybe
you're looking at a Tatis Machado, Merrill, one of these guys.
This is what coach Cantara had to say on a
possibly trading any of those players.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Erry, I don't know who you can sell. I mean
you can sell Fernando, and you know, I think that's
something they're gonna have to seriously consider. To be honest
with you. You know, he's making twenty this year. I
think he makes twenty five next year and an here
before too long, he's gonna be making thirty six million
dollars a year. He's not a thirty six million dollar
ball player. But maybe because he's still twenty seven years
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of age, who can move him? I would think they
need to. I mean, he's not doing anything that dynamic
right now. He just kind of another you know, outfielder
in Major League Baseball that can play second base a
little bit. Metrodo and Bogart, those contracts are completely unmovable.
You're you're not moving those at all. There are no
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way you can do that. So I mean you're gonna
trade Jackson Merrill? I mean I could see them maybe
doing that. But who's gonna replace him? I don't know.
They got a lot of assets, but a lot of
their assets are unmovable, and the other assets they have,
I don't know. If a whole lot of teams are
gonna want to jump on.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's gonna be fast.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So coach is right now, the Bogart and Shadow contracts,
I don't think, to his point, you really do anything
about that unless the new owners are like, we want
to be done with this we're gonna find some sort
of buy out to where you can do that.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I mean, I'm not in touch with all the financials.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I'm not gonna get into that, but maybe there's a
path down the road for that.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Tappen.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Part of me goes back and forth because you talking
about trading for a Tatis. He's certainly not having the
year that you would like to trade him if you
were ever gonna entertain that, you'd want him to be
playing like the nl MVP Fernando Tatis that he was
in the conversation for a year in and year out.
Now the flip side of that is, do you think
Fernando can ever get back to that to improve his
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trade value. I'll give Frando credit for this. At least
he's getting on base. Not today he went over four,
but he's at least starting to get on base. Is
it pretty No, it's it's not a pretty sight in
terms of that because he's not hitting for a ton
of power.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
But you do feel like you're starting to come out
of it just.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
A little bit. Machada looks completely lost. I don't know
anyone who would take on that contract.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Bogart's had a good start to the year.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know, for the expectations that we put on Sander
Bogart's due to his recent play the last couple of years,
it's been better, I guess, but you know, I don't
think anyone's signing up to eat a big part of
that deal. And Jackson Merrill is another one who I
think if you start shopping Jackson Merrill around, team's first
question is gonna be, wait, you don't believe in him
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because he's supposed to be a young superstar.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So the pottery start shopp at him.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
There'll be some questions.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
From other teams like maybe they don't believe he's that good.
Hopefully this is that's, you know, looking negatively. Hopefully Jackson
Merrill can get back to what he was. He had
a two run shot today, so maybe that's the start
of something. Fernando again is starting to play a little
bit better, but to a coach's point, he's certainly not
playing like a three hundred and forty million dollar contract player.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That's where the expectations change.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It's Fernando a terrible player, no, but when you hold
him up to other guys that make three hundred and
forty million dollars, that's a select group of players in
Major League Baseball, and he certainly hasn't come through. So look,
hopefully they can get back on track against the Mets.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Is certainly is a team to do that against.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
The Mets have not been good, a major disappointment this year.
But it's just it's hard to have a lot of
faith in this team right now when the ANL is
so crowded. In a team that you're trying to stave
off is the Philadelphia Phillies who just six oed you,
and the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks are getting health year
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and all these teams, and we've had the same conversation,
are these guys going to hit the baseball? And right
now it's just there's not. There's not a lot of
answers to it. There's there's not there's I don't know
what the answer is. People have talked about steven SUSA
hitting coach. I mean, I don't I don't know what
the what the what the answer is? Uh to all this,
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choose the call eight seven seven seven six seven for
seven sixty once again, eight seven seven seven sixty seven
for seven sixty. Uh, we got we got Marcos on
line one, Marcos or something and you're on the air.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Sorry to ruffle some more feather, Sammy, but now you're good.
Real question, do you think Toddy has been sandbagging for
the last few years because he sees his age and
he's still valuable and he's playing as good as he
can but doesn't want to. I don't know, man, It's
just after seeing him in the Baseball Classic and seeing
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you know, the just energy and the bat, I just
I'm suspect still about it. I have been for like
three years.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What do you think, I Marcos, it's an interesting point.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now, I don't know if he's been been like sam
bagging's what you're saying. I'm sure France Tatis wants to
play well, not in his psyche, so you know, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna say he's not trying or
anything like that. But to your point, Marcos, the WBC
was interesting, and I remember John and I when I was,
you know, filling in for a little bit there. We
had the conversation like, it's gonna look bad with whoever
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player plays well in the WBC and then hits awful
when the regular season starts and he hit that Grand Slam.
I believe it was against Israel, Like I can't remember
the country he did it against. But you know, the
there looks like the old Fernando having fun all that stuff,
and you don't really see it right now, and he
obviously hasn't been hitting the ball well now.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
On the flip side, when.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You're winning, if you're winning, I think more people are
gonna be more excited about coming to work every day.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That's not anything new, But.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You wonder if it's in the best interests of both teams,
the Potters, both parties, and the Potteris and the in
Tatis to at least start to explore it if they
fall out of contention, if they continue playing how they're
playing right now and they're not in this thing, I
think it's a conversation to be had.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
We'll get to the text line on the other side.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
We got some text rolling in here about the Podres
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The here the.
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Qualifier call eight seven seven seven six seven four seven sixty.
If you're calling number seven, you will be going to
the game on Sunday. I Got a World Cup, My
guy Coleman Clayton coming on in ten minutes, kind of
giving us everything we need to know ahead of the tournament,
and some betting nuggets as well.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Always I always gotta look for that betting edge, Brent,
always gotta look for that little little dark horse.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Ron.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
We can get a little sprinkle on it's head to
the text line.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Nine to seven three, reacting to our Patres conversation, said overreaction,
King here, uh sell out the deadline.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You can get a nice package for Tatis.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
We need to upgrade the starting rotation and can get
young prospects to firm up our future. We are far
from competing with the best of the NL with this
current roster. Six point nine also says different number, fire sale,
new ownership, get what you can and start over. This
core group is a lost cause from our guys, loyal listener.
So cal Jayhawk, I think it's all fair. I really
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do think it's all fair. I mean it's it's you
wonder if you ran its course with this core group
of guys, because the last seven years it's really been
Manny Tatis, Bogart's for a portion of that, it's been
those core group of guys, and then Merrill's kind of
you know, come later, and there's been tweaks, there's been
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you know, changes, the rotation changed to all this, but
it really has been the same core group and it's
capped out at an NL. Yes, and you can celebrate
what this group's been able to do. Certainly brought pottery
baseball back to relevancy because I'm twelve years ago. You
can get a ticket for ten dollars sitting down load.
They're giving those things away with how bad the team was.
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So they certainly brought the team back to relevancy, but
they have not been able to certainly get over that
hurdle which everyone San Diego would like to see.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
All Right, NBA Finals last night, What a game?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What a game?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Jalen Bronson thirty points and bred I'm curious what you think,
but I think it's funny how we overreact like the
thunder are gonna beat everybody, destroy everybody, not even close.
Then Wenby beats them, Wemby's gonna, you know, make the
goat conversation mute.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Then Wenby is twenty six points.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Last night, but has a has a bad night from
the field and turn the ball over a lot and
all of a sudden, now everyone's down on Wemby. Like,
I think we can give credit to the Knicks and
not just be like Wemby's done, which is just some
of the narrative that we've heard today.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Well, you know, it's like Janet Jackson said, it's what
if he's done for me lately? So you know, that's
what anyone cares about, is what you know recently happened.
And yeah, they're overreacting. It's only game one. I can't
remember which one of them said it. Either it was
Chuck or Shack that were just like, it's game one.
Game one's essentially a throwaway game anyways, even though I
kind of disagree a small extent because they've technically they've
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lost home court, but they can get back easy enough.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
But it's a feeling out game.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
To what you're saying to I, I'm I'm curious with.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
With this series, the underlying part of it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So, the the Spurs have drafted and developed their starting
five Wemby, Castle, Harper, not or not box Fox has
been uh Fox has certainly been been acquired from Sacramento.
But the Knicks, the Knicks dfted all their or excuse me,
they did not draft all their guys they traded and
acquired for all their guys. Jalen Brunson was acquired from
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the Maps. McHale Bridges they sent for four picks. Four
you're talking about, Uh, Karl Anthony Towns was from Minnesota.
They acquired og Nanobi And I think that that we've
looked at, like with the Oklahoma City Thunder, what they
did with your drafting, getting a ton of draft picks,
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being able to to to build from the ground up,
it's respectable, but do we go too far that way?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Like the Knicks, it's impressive.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's James Dolan, who's not a guy who gets a
lot of credit for the New York Knicks as owner
and or president of basketball. Excuse me, but it is
impressive that he has been able to spot guys who
teams have thrown away to build this lineup together, like
Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson was a guy that if you're
the Dallas Mavericks right now, I'm sorry you let Luca
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in in Jalen Brunson walk out the door when they
took you to a Western Conference finals and then Luca
took you to it to a championship, to a Finals,
and like when we're sitting there, I mean, Jalen Brunson
has been told he's six to two, he's less, he
can't be the best player on a championship winning team
because of his body size. He can't play amazing defense.
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But and yet he's here and he just went in
as San Antonio one game one.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Luka Doncic.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yes, there's concerns defensively, he is not some elite defender.
You have to build the roster route a certain way
with a very good front court three and d wing defenders.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
But Luca has had success. Lucas had success in this league.
That year they went to the finals.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They had no business on paper being in the NBA Finals,
and yet they got there and took out Oklahoma City.
So the Knicks are kind of like, I wonder if
we're going to start. For years, it was sign a
big three, acquire a big three, and put as many
stars as possible. The Knicks have acquired all their players,
but they kind of did it through role players.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
They did it through Jalen Brunson is gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Be the star and cat and then it was Bridges
and Annobi and a lot of these guys, Josh Hart,
who the Lakers gave up on a lot of players
who their first teams were like, yeah, we don't think
we can build around. They put together an extremely cohesive
group and I think that that kind of showed late
in that game last night.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Well, you're talking about Dolan collecting like all these players
that nobody else wanted. I'd extend that to the coach
too with Mike Brown, because he was crazy when they
got rid of Thibodeau and then all of a sudden,
they're just like, what you're gonna get rid of TIBs
to bring in him? So, yeah, I didn't include Mike Brown,
and that that's Mike Brown's a great point. I mean,
Mike Brown has certainly been passed around coaching tree from
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from a lot of different guys.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And the Knicks are a lot of credit. This is
gonna be a really good series. And Karl Anthony Towns,
it's impressive what he was able to do. Wenby only
shot two of eleven when he was the primary defender.
We opened up to the phones quickly before we get
to our guests, Dave. Dave wants to talk a little
bit about the padres a day. What's up, Man, you're
on the air.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Hey Sam, thanks again, and you know I'm I'm joining
the chorus with so many others that have you know,
I think accepting the fact that the current core of
if I call them the Big four, big three, whatever
you want to call them, you know, this is the future.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
It's here.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
This is what we were worried about, uh when these
contracts were handed out like Christmas candy. So the potteries
have been kind of, you know, on borrowed time because
of the good hearted nature of Peter Seidler. But we're
at the point now of you know, at some point
damage is going to be done at the gate because
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people are not going to continue to pay these high
exorbitant prices. When it finally becomes accepted that this franchise
is in deep, deep trouble with this this current group
of rosters that they can't do much with. So this
new ownership, they've got some real real problems on their
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hands because they cannot sustain this unless some kind of
miracle happens and these guys all of a sudden find
themselves again, which would defye. What I think we all
agree on is a continuing tread now that has been
here for at least three or four years.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
They I appreciate the call, man, I I it's an
interesting point on.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
The UH and we'll get to break into second Brank.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's an interesting point on on the ticket prices, Like
I do think people are getting frustrated with the fact
that I mean, like I was going, I went to
three games a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It ain't cheap.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I'll tell you that right now, you get a couple
of beers at a game, you're paying ballpark prices, and
I think you're seeing a thing where people are getting
a little frustrated with the fact that, you know, the
prices aren't exactly matching the winning.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
The winning on the scale.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And we'll see, we'll see if you know, people hit
him where they're we wallle it hurts, and certainly if
they stop selling tickets, they're gonna be trying to put
a winner on the field.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Dave, thank you for calling in man all right.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
On the other side, Roll Cup insider Colman Clayton breaking
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Speaker 2 (23:16):
Heynh the wrong with a little Heat around here, black Fire.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Who's next in the hot seat, My.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
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Speaker 4 (24:13):
What's up, dude?
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How are you doing?
Speaker 9 (24:15):
What is going on? Sammy? Thank you so much for
having me on your show.
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Of course it's going to hear your voice. Man, I
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Speaker 4 (24:27):
Maybe they're not dire at soccer fans.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
What is the expansion from typically in the World Cup
has been thirty two teams that are allowed in.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Now it's been expanded to forty eight.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Do you think that, you know, means that there's going
to be higher chance of a Cinderella run or just
more kind of beat downs in the first round.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a really good question.
I think one of the really, you know, most wonderful
things about the World Cup is every single tournament has
always had a Cinderella story. If you look back, you know,
four years ago, at that twenty twenty two, I think
our obvious Cinderella story was Morocco, a team of made
it all the way to the Semis and unfortunately lost.
But I mean, hey, no one thought they would make
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it that far. And then you know, you obviously think
of Columbia in twenty fourteen, No ways shall make in
the final in twenty eighteen in Russia. So, you know,
I think with more teams, you know, and obviously you
are getting some teams in here, like you know, the
Curisiles of the World, the the you know, Iraq, Jordan,
Like there's just some countries that you know, I can
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imagine are just there to be there. But you know,
a cinereal story will happen. In terms of who I
think it's gonna be, that's a little bit harder to tell.
There's a lot of teams on paper here that I
think should make some noise. You know, Ecuador is the
team I look at here, Teams like Ivory Coast, Norway
with Erling Holland playing this first World Cup. So just
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a couple of teams to be aware of there. But
I mean, yeah, there's gonna be a Cinderella story regardless,
and if there isn't, you know, they'll be surprised.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
No matter what you mentioned.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Earl Holland make it as you know, star from a
man city, you know, thought of as one of the
best soccer players in the world, making his World Cup debut.
Obviously Messi won the last World Cup with Argentina. We
got Ronaldo looking for one, uh neymar and Bope was closed.
Which are those stars kind of outside of MESSI do
you think face the most pressure like this World Cup
this time around?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I think it has to be Christiano Ronald though, I mean,
if we look at you know, the biggest stars in
this World Cup. Obviously, like you mentioned, it is Messi,
it is Ronaldo, it isn't Boppe, it is Lemina mal
from the Euros. But without a doubt it's it's c
R seven. I mean being in his position, after seeing
your essentially your your counterpart, the person that's you know,
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involved in every single debate going against you, win the
World Cup and hoist that trophy. Uh taking whatever he
thought was just a massive advantage in that and that
debate to who's the real goat of soccer? It has
to be him. If you look at the Portugal team
on paper, this is one heck of a squad evenally
the best midfield that we'll see on paper at this
World Cup, with the likes of John Navis and Bruna,
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fer Nanje and Virtinia, especially those two Vitina, and that
is coming off a Champions League win, and you know,
you know, bolstered by amazing fullbacks. The team on paper,
you know, whether Rittenhaldo starts, so whether he doesn't, which
is even just crazy to say, even at his age,
it has to be him. I mean Portugal to be honest,
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and you know, maybe I'll talk about it more later
on on the podcast. Uh is a team that you know,
I'll predict to go you know, very far, even potentially
win the whole thing. I think if you're Inald that
you have to be thinking, Hey, this is my swan song.
The team on paper is amazing. I'm gonna have to,
you know, come up big or you know, hope that
my team comes up big.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Coleman Clayton woke up Insiders joint to meet right now.
You mentioned Portugal. I've heard a lot of people kind
of that's that's been the kind of sexy underdog pig.
If you're not going with the Spains or the frances
or team like that, what's up with that? I know
there's you mentioned Christianne Lenado possibly coming off the bench.
Is that just due to his age at forty one
or some dissension there?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
What's what's kind of behind that?
Speaker 9 (28:01):
So if you look more in depth of the style
of football Portugal play when Ronaldo's on the field, Uh,
it tends to be kind of a little bit more
of a throw the ball in the box and uh
uh you know, pray pray gets ahead on it, which
I mean, hey, is a good strategy. It has worked
for years last World Cup I can say. I mean,
I think we can all say it. You know, it
didn't work necessarily. We all kind of remember the phantom
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header that you know was a goal, it wasn't a
goal by c R seven, and uh, you know, I
think a lot of people had, you know, much higher
expectations then when your seven is not starting it, you know,
it's the lights of someone like you know, Jos Felix
or you know one of their other strikers. I mean,
there's so much depth in that team. Uh, it's a
little bit more of a fluid game they play. And
you know players that I really look at, you know
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out you know in terms of like supporting roles, it's
c R seven is not playing or you know players
are going to really stand out and the attack for
Portugal are you know, players like Brutal fernand who is
coming up breaking the assist record in the you know,
in the Premier League. Uh, you know, players like you
know Colin Shall, I believe bouncing that correctly and I
played Duventus, you know, more of a younger player, really
bright winger. You know, when Sark Kevin is not on
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the pitch, the styles of foot he kind of changes
completely for the Portugal. Now personally, do I want to
see our seventh start you know in the US of
A and in North America? Uh, for this World Cup?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Absolutely?
Speaker 9 (29:20):
I mean, I mean that would be pretty amazing. But
you know, just some thing to think.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of there, Yeah, school, all the all the big names,
Christian Ronaldo obviously still getting it done at more of
an advanced age flip into the US. So, like, what
do you think are realistic expectations. I've heard some people
be like, you know, in the last World Cup they
got out of the group and lost in the first
rounds in the Netherlands. What do you think would define
a successful run for Team USA?
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Shamian, There's three words I have you. It's a round
of sixteen, Okay, that is that is the expectation for
the US. You were on home soil, you were probably
playing in honestly the weakness group. H amongst the twelve
that are going to the World Cup this year, and
all your players that have been talked about for the
past four years, the past eight years, I said, Christian
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Bull of six, Weston McKenny, Tyler Adams. All these players
are in their pride, Sammy, this is the year that
they have to do it. Minimum baseline is heading out
in the round of sixteen, and especially with this many
teams and the opportunity to really you know, play amazing
soccer and beat a lot of these teams in their group.
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I don't see why they won't make it out, and
if they don't, I will tell you right now, it
will be a massive disappointment. And that is the only
thing that kind of freaks me out a little bit
is the amount of pressure that's weighing on the US
men's national team to perform this World Cup. You have
as well, you know, one of the more acclaimed managers
in old soccer at your helmet, and you know, versus
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a Pochettino. You're coming off a really convincing win against Senegal,
with which I think was needed just in terms of
the recent production from that team just and friendies and
then you know, games beforehand. But it has to be
you know, you know, getting pasted a round of sixteen.
They're just making it to the round of sixteen. Last
World Cup was a you know, really convincing defeat against Netherlands,
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and you know, you know, obviously you know before that,
there was no uh, there was no soccer for the
US national team. But I think, you know, it is
a realist expectation and I think it's something that they
can definitely achieve. I'm just worried about the pressure that
they'll face, and you know, they need to be perfect.
They cannot make any mistakes.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Those are those are great points. I'm curious. The World
Cup favorite Spain. They actually have eight players from soccer
powerhouse FC Barcelona. Some people have kind of critiqued that.
Some people are for it and yeah, me Lamal, excuse me,
Jamal got got injured and it's supposed to be good
for the for the World Cup, But should they still
be the favorite? Like do you see as France maybe
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passing them because of the Amal injury?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Where are you at with that?
Speaker 9 (31:56):
We just actually got word I believe it was a
day ago from de la Fuente that the mall will
be healthy. He will be in the starting match for Spain,
uh from the beginning of the World Cup. And that's
great news if you're a Spain fan. I mean, if
you're going into a game and in your Spain you
need to see uh Jamal on you know on that wing,
the the way he changes that team and just the
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complete style of soccer they play, and uh, the attacking
finalists that they have is just really polarizing. And Spain
hasn't seen a player uh come to the ranks that
really gives them that layer and then and and and
seeing the way that they attack in a very long time.
So we're really happy about that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
In terms of the Barcelona players being called up, that's
kind of always been a constant theme for Spain. If
you look at just Barcelona as a whole, the type
of soccer that they just notorious, notoriously played for years
is teep and top of style football. Uh, and that's
exactly what Spain wants to do. Spain wants to hold
the ball, they want to grab possession, they want to
do a bunch of passes. They want to tire you
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out on the pitch in the hopes to eventually score.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
Let me see all which is Barcelona's youth team, that's
essentially their academy where you know, they grow players who
eventually played for the you know, the starting team, like
the adult team is probably the best in the world
and best and his talent currently plays in that team.
So reeiously, if you look at it on paper, if
We're going to bring Lamina mall to the World Cup
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and he's playing for Barcelona. Why not bring the best
up and coming Spanish players that have already established that
chemistry with Cabal to Bolts? Are your chances absolutely shredding
that group and hopefully making it to the final.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
All right, cole Man, I want to put you on
the spot, but I need a World Cup prediction?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Who are you rocking with you?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
What a final prediction?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I want a final prediction if you have one, Guys.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
I got the script? All right, all right, this is
this is live where this is exclusive. We're on air
right now. I got the scripts. I know exactly what's
going to go down. Look, who you know? Messi won
the World Cup last year. It was probably the best
World Cup final at least I have ever seen. I
mean I've only been watching soccer since twenty fourteen, only
seen so many World Cup finals, but that was incredible
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and seeing Messy horse that trophy was amazing. Uh, guys,
if we can follow up four years ago, if Messi
winning the World Cup with c R seven and Portugal
winning it this year, it would be incredible. I mean
we would we we would have never seen anything like
it in Sports and Choco Health. The debates we would
have going forward if they were to hoist it. Like
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I said earlier in the podcast, Portugal's team is stacked.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
They, like I said, have the best midfield on paper
and the best ability to either feed see our seven
or not even play c R seven even if he
comes off the bench. That team is so scary. They
are so well rounded.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
They do play in a group. If we look at
it now, I'm just gonna pull it up. They play
in a group of.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I know they're going.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I know they're they're like, they're like the fifth or
sixth best favorites to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
The text line loves it.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Jay Sales on YouTube said, you heard the man Sammy
Portugal to the to win it all exactly.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, said it's
demo credit Republic of Congos, Beckistan and Colombia Call me
is the scariest team in that group for sure, but
about with added doubt, I can totally see making the
final end. If I had to predict anything, c R
seven will hoist that COPA.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Coleman Clayton go give him a follow on Instagram Coleman.
See underscore Coleman, We're running out of time. Otherwise we
will get into you. We will get into your knicks
next time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Want to know.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Shout out to Jalen Brunson. I know, I know you're
going crazy last.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
Time New York. Let me know, man, thank you so
much for having me on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
All right, take care call me the best by that
we will. We will talk soon. Coleman Clayton, shoot him
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What a little crossover action? Coming up next on Going Long,
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Speaker 10 (35:48):
Sammy Slew fifteen minutes of Goodness, we call for the crossover.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
The Big Slee was here sucking.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You don't what is going on?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What is going on?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Not?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
The pottery is potters are not going on right now.
We've gotten into that a lot. We took some callers,
people very frustrated with the scene.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
Would they give me, by the way, I'll try to
do as much of that as possible. Start at three,
as many calls as you guys want to take. By
the If I'm being honest, I'd be very very disappointed.
If there aren't some ticked off Padre fans that just
want to vent today and if you want to vent,
(36:35):
I'm by myself. Schaeffer's gone, So this is your opportunity
to vent as much as you like what they say today.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, we started having the conversation Dave called in Marcus
a couple of people. It was like, I mean, when
is it time to start having the conversation that, like
the article came out today with ESPN about Trek Skooble
and how the Potter Raiser Incyndam, the Dodgers, the Phillies,
basically every team that thinks they have a shot of
the World Series in schoopl and it's like, when is
(37:02):
the time start having the conversation that not only is
this not a team that's buyers, this is a team
that needs to look at with new ownership selling off
some big pieces and mainly for Nando Tatis. We talked
coach Kntara was on Flesh and I Show earlier and
kind of mentioned that he'd be the only guy that
has value because no one's gonna take that muchhot on
Boart's contract. But I mean, like, when do we start
(37:22):
having that conversation seriously.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
I don't think now. So if the question is that direct,
I don't think it's now. But I think you could mention, like, hey,
let's just say this thing is more of the same
in the next forty five days.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Maybe it's a different conversation.
Speaker 11 (37:39):
I don't think I'm I don't think I'm trading Fernando
Tatis Junior. I'm not trading a twenty seven year old
at his probably lowest value.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'd rather just hold on to him.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
But that was my point.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I was like, if you like, I wouldn't be opposed
to trading him, But if you're gonna trade him now,
when to your point, he has the lowest value he's
gonna have because he has not had a good year.
Everyone that once you start trading starts shopping him around
or going to go Well, if you guys are giving
up on him, you.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Know, what's the kind of red lights going off there?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
But then there's also the other part of it is
if you don't think Frano can ever get back to
his potential MVP season like playing at that level, then
maybe it is time to just cut your losses.
Speaker 11 (38:20):
Yeah, I think the question right now, I mean, honestly, no,
I don't think the Padres should trade Fernando with Tatis. No,
I don't think they should start selling off every asset.
I'd rather them spend the next forty five days trying
to figure out how to just stay in contention, because
you know, obviously the way they're playing right now, you
go within maybe probably about a week and a half span,
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they go from eleven games over five hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I don't know. Maybe it's longer than that two weeks,
but I don't know.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
It's probably is because they've lost nine to ten, so
they've clearly yeah, it's eight games over that span.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
When the Potterys beat the Dodgers in that Night one,
they took a half game leader to a half game lead.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Since then they three to ten.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I think that the question now is how do you
just survive?
Speaker 11 (39:04):
And we'll find out in forty five days, and in
forty five days in a month and a half, because
the trade deadline is not until I thought it was
July thirty first or July thirtieth, but then I heard
Schaefer say something like August tecon and August at whatever
dated is obviously right around that window. Then I think
you're gonna have a better understanding of what the franchise
should do with you know, their current situation. But the
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Tok Schoople things interesting for many reasons. Brett and I
will get in this today because I think we do
disagree on this. I know he was saying, like, hey,
why would you go after a player like this? Go
look at Walker, Bueller or maybe a Vasquez or a
Michael King. They can have a game where they pitch
really well, they give up two runs, or in Bueller's
case against Philly, he gave up one run and.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
They can still lose the game.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
So I think his points like, you're losing assets even
if you get another starting pitcher, You're just not you
don't have enough runs behind it. But I think there's
some scenarios where it makes sense, and obviously scenarios that
it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I hear both sides. I'm with Brent.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think that if you're getting Schooble, he's unbelievable, one
of the best pitchers in baseball, But is it putting
lipstick on a pig, because it's at some point it's
like he doesn't hit. And I wouldn't say that the
bullpen or the starting rotation, not that the starting rotation
has been tremendous, but given the Muskrupa Veta injuries, I
give them high marks for staying above water.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Just selling off assets for.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Scooball when Schooble is one hundred percent going to leave
in the offseason to another team. The smartest thing is
I don't see that they're one piece away. Yeah, listen,
I'm not telling you that it's this.
Speaker 11 (40:33):
If the scenario, if it looks the way it does today,
then I think you're already kind of have your answer
like that. The thing this is one of the best
quotes I've ever heard from aj Prewler. Preller has said,
I don't make decisions by the deadline. They make the
decisions for me, as in how the players look will
determine how aggressive he's going to be or how much
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he kind of takes a step back.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
But I'll play I'll play a scenari for you.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
Let's let's just pretend let's say the Padres just went
through a really bad two week stretch, and let's say
for the two first two plus months of the season
that their star players really struggled.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Let me just play out a scenario.
Speaker 11 (41:09):
But let's say over the next forty five games, they're
kind of back to what they were six eight games
over five hundred on top of the three that they're
on now. So let's say they're like ten games over
five hundred, you feel like they're in the mix. Maybe
they're not there with the Dodgers or the Braves or Milwaukee,
but you feel like, hey, these guys actually have a shot.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Let's say the bats kind of start going.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
I'm asking a lot of ifs, right, But I do
think there's a scenario where if they're in the mix,
I get it, like I get the I don't know
how many for I don't know how many shots they're
gonna have.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
The flip side to that, though, is there's a difference
between being in the mix to make the postseason and
then being in the mix, being in the mix and
win a World Series. And over the past six years,
I think everyone's graduated from hey, it's cool the Potter
is in the postseason too, we want to win a
World Series, And from what they've shown at least two
and a half months in the season, to me.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
No, they're not. They're not. They're not nowhere near yet nowhere.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So at what point do you not keep running the
same core back and realize we have to restart this
thing versus trading off more assets to try to make
another run at it when these bats not have shown
you over the last couple of months and years they're
not World Series caliber.
Speaker 11 (42:22):
Yeah, I think I don't think that's completely fair because
I think they they had real runs right like they
did now one Well, I know I would say in
twenty twenty two they had a run if you're if
you're a couple games away from getting to the World
Series and you know, a a soarz Bryce Harper at
bat from bringing it back to San Diego.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Was the run, but like, where's the other run?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Twenty twenty four was a run?
Speaker 4 (42:46):
I mean twenty four score ls sittings at home.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
But twenty twenty four was a run.
Speaker 11 (42:50):
As in, you're two to two against the Los Angeles
Dodgers who end up winning a World Series.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I'm not telling you they didn't choke for two games.
Speaker 11 (43:00):
But what I'm telling you is you're two nothing in
Game five at Dodger Stadium against the team that ended
up winning a World Series.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Let's not pretend like the Pod games weren't dangerous.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I know, we got to get out. But I'm not
saying they weren't dangerous.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
But I wouldn't call that a run making it to
the NLDS being the World Series favorite after Game three
when the vegas.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
But here's it's not a un to me.
Speaker 11 (43:21):
Here's here's the thing you asked, are you Are you
in contention?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
The Podreys were in contention the twenty four.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
But the best, the best team that is ever going
to be with this group, it probably.
Speaker 11 (43:35):
You know, there's a let's put it this way, I
think it's a lot strongly stronger chance that that was
their best shot than moving forward. But just I'm just
going back to the question that you asked, is like,
because I think I'm not going against the point that
you're making. I think the point I'm trying to make
is they've had some runs. They've had teams where the
expectations was like, you know, I don't know, I think.
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I mean, I would probably say twenty four. I would
say probably twenty twenty four they had a better shot
of getting to a World Series if they got through
the Dodgers than they did.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I agree twenty twenty. I one hundred percent agree with that.
I just my thinking is that have its run its course?
Was the peak of this this Bogart's Tatis Machado. Merrill
did that peak in twenty twenty two and then twenty
twenty four when they had a shot at home to
close out the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
You gotta get on the other side because I know.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's coming up, Brett.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Who want tickets to a soccer match? Okay, we'll figure
out tomorrow. Someone someone one tickets.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
They don't remember. Someone's going to a great game. Someone's
going on a great game this weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Whoever you are. I appreciate you listening to the show.
Coleman Clayton, I appreciate you hopping on tomorrow. We'll have
Matt Devine who missed yesterday, Kenneth and John Kenneth and John.
Kenneth and John are going to the match on Sunday.
Sleeve was coming up next. Make sure to stay tuned.
I'll be back tomorrow