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June 5, 2026 40 mins
Sammy has issues with Saban trying to change college football as well as gets into why the Pats rushed into the J Brown deal! DSG joins to give his thoughts on the Padres & whether they will be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline. Have a good weekend!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm going along with Shammy. That's gonna be Jet on
the story of the day. Plus he's warning, no, it's
Sammy Long.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's almost the weekend, people, almost the weekend. Taking you
up to it. We've got a Sliwa Sliva coming on
at three o'clock and then we'll be do the crossover
with me at two forty five. Matt and Vine the
other day was I had a little bit of scheduling conflicts.
He will be back on with me today talking to
Patres ahead of their ahead of their big series against
the Mets.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Brent, how are we how are we feeling today?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
With your bears moving across day lines Indiana?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's no big deal you okay?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well, I look at it like this a whole bunch
of rhetorical questions coming at you, Sammy.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Does Dallas play in Dallas?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
No to the San Francisco forty nine ers play in
San Francisco?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
No? Do the Jets or the Giants play in New York?

Speaker 5 (00:59):
No?

Speaker 6 (00:59):
And no.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So it's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
People that aren't familiar with like the Chicago area, Hammond
isn't that far away. It's not like they're moving to
you know, Ohio or something like that. So it's it's
still within driving and they have like their version, they
have like this loop thing, so it's it's not that
big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay, Well I'm curious because Brent, you're obviously a massive
Bears fan, you know, very familiar with Chicago. The Chiefs
are doing, the Chiefs are moving from Missouri to Kansas.
People are pissed Clark Hunt. I mean, we get that.
I could do two hours on that. The fact that
he's trying to get out from his daddy's shadow make
his own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's like it's so unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Soldier Field and Arrowhead Stadium are two of the most
iconic sites in the NFL, and everyone's trying to do
what what Jerry Jones did in Dallas. I get he
has the restaurants, he's got a damn near shopping mall.
There's places to buy cars there, dealerships, it's everything, and
it's all about the super Bowl. But I was talking

(02:05):
with Fletch about this Kansas City. I'm a die hard
Chiefs fan, diehard Chiefs fan. Kansas City is not need
a super Bowl. The super Bowl every year should be
in Los Angeles, Vegas. Phoenix, New Orleans, Dallas, and Miami
and maybe Tampa Bay go throw that in there. I mean,
it should be a revolving door of cities in the
South that people want to go to that will have

(02:25):
a fun super Bowl Week atmosphere, and you don't have
weather doesn't play into it. I just personally don't get it.
From now now, we're going to be cycling the super
Bowl to you know, Buffalo in Kansas City, And I mean,
Chicago's a big city, but all these other cities because
they have a dome. They talk about Minnesota like that
was one of the worst super Bowl weeks there's ever
been because it's just there's nothing to do in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well, there's more stuff to do Chicago, that's true than
there is in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Chicago. Chicago is a massive city. You just have the
weather concern.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
But again, if they're if they're putting a dome on it,
I guess it's new here nor there.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Another thing, too, is the Chicago suburbs stretch out so
far that they practically reach out to like the Indiana
They're really.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Close, so it's it's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
And they kind of ran into a lot of the
same like problems with politicians and stuff that San Diego
did to where you know, they made proposals for stuff
and there's a lot of you know, red tape and
all that stuff that happened. That's why they started looking elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So well, it'd be something to follow the Bears or
if you haven't seen the story moving to Indiana across
state lines from Illinois.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I thought we start today actually with college football. College football.
Nicks So Nick Aby.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Was on the Senate floor this week now making a pitch.
Talked about it a little bit last week. There's a
bipartisan bill between Democrats and Republicans that's aimed at kind
of having one controlling governing body because we talked. We
talked about a lot with the patters in Major League Baseball,
they're not being salary cap At least major League Baseball
has a governing body, not always the best governing body,

(04:06):
doesn't always have you know, laid the law down. But
college football is basically free enterprise a lot like college basketball.
Nick Stable was on the Senate floor this week pining
for there to be a regulating body.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
This is what he had to say on the Senate floor.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Let me give you the history. My first year we
had collective at Alabama two point seven million, next year
seven million, next year ten million. I'll retired next year
of seventeen million, next year twenty four million. Now you
have schools that have close to forty million dollar rosters.
So if we continue to do that, we're gonna lose
Olympic sports. We're gonna lose non revenue sports, We're gonna

(04:43):
lose scholarships. And basically what's going to happen is we're
gonna have football and basketball succeed and we'll have club
sports for everything else.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right, Well, that's what sells. I mean, like, let's let's
cut to bs. Men and women's basketball draw big in college.
In football, I'm sorry, the men's fencing team is not
drawing in massive ratings, Okay, a massive revenue to the school.
I'm not saying I want Olympic sports to go away.
That's not what I'm saying. But Nick Saban, I don't

(05:16):
disagree with everything he's saying in regards of I want
there to be a governing body and I'll get into
those impacts all colleg football in a minute.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
We also didn't hear this stof.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
From college football coaches who are making tens of millions
of dollars fifteen million dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nick Saban is.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
At Alabama over one hundred million dollars in career earnings.
So we're hearing about how, oh, this is ridiculous that
you're having to pay players.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Has it gone too far? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
But I don't hear Nick Saban calling for regulations on
coaches Blane Kiffin making what twenty million a year.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I don't hear anything about that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Alabama's building a three hundred million dollar practice facility right now,
USC building a three hundred million dollar practice facility right now.
These these schools are not cast trapped. Let's stop pretending
like they're cast trapped. Other schools maybe at the lower
levels or not. Not that doesn't have the brand of
Alabama and USC and Ohio State, Notre Dame could be

(06:16):
cast trapped.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
They're not. Trust me, USC is doing just fine.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
They are.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
They are making enough money handle or foot in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Do I want there to be regulations? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Can you take a look at Let's take San Diego, say,
for example, San Diego State to what Nick Daban also
said was, all right, you have forty million dollars rosters
Lane Kiffin and LSU. They're reportedly spending thirty to forty
million dollars on their roster year, So they're going to
be in attention every single season because they're they're going

(06:49):
to buy enough five star recruits to where it's it's
gonna render it mute. They might not win every year.
I mean, look at look at what Indiana did. Indiana
was a team. They have a lot of money, even
though before last year they were one of them losing
his college football programs in history.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
They're in the Big ten.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
They get a revenue share two years, you know, the
last two years before Indiana won it. Last year, Ohio
State won it and Michigan won it, so they were
getting revenue cuts of that. They were getting a lot
of money. But Indiana built through transfers, six years, seniors,
a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So if you're talking about regulation for players and having
a cap because you take us cool like San Diego State,
San Diego State can't afford to go get a ten
million dollar quarterback.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like, let's just be real.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
They're not going to be able to compete with the
boosters at LSU or USC or Ohio State or notre
Dame or Texas Texas shelling out I mean tens of
millions of dollars to go out and fill out their roster.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean arch manning. That's not even feasible for that
to happen.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
San Diego State is building something Aliva Sean Lowis is
doing on the MESA.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You're seeing him. You know, they're to recruit more locally.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
The nil collective we've talked about a lot has been
going up and to an extent. But what Nicks Dame
is trying to say is that you're gonna have like
like like Trey White, great defensive end for San Diego State.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You're talking about guys that are.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Able to go other places because they're just they're they're
gonna write blank checks. Schools like in the SEC in
the Big ten are going to be able to write
checks that the Mountain west of the Pac twelve simply
just can't can't even afford.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's not even in their budget.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But Nick Saban acting like this is oh Alabama is
is in trouble. What Alabama doesn't like We've heard out.
We've heard Nick Saban come out against this. We've heard
Dabo Sweeney, We've heard Sark won a smaller playoff, not
wanting it to be twelve teams for Ryan Day from
Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Ryan Day, to be fair, actually said adapt or die.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
But have not been in favor of explaining the playoff
in there being kind of free enterprise in transfer windows
where you could. It used to be where if you
transferred you get a city year. Now you can transfer
and play play that that same season and you're having
kids have extra years of eligibility. Well, the reason why Texas, Alabama, Clemson,

(09:15):
Ohio statey the schools I want it is because they
were in the Collegeotball Playoff every year with four teams.
If you were looking to go to the NFL, why
would you consider any other school unless if you could
go to Ohio State, you knew Ohio State was going
to be playing in a big game against Michigan, the
chances of them being in the final four. When it
was four teams in the College football Playoff, Alabama and

(09:36):
Clemson were meeting every year. So if you're a kid,
you're thinking, all right, well, I want exposure where I'm
playing on the national level and going to be playing
in front of a lot of people. So those schools
fit because they're probably playing late into the season. Georgia,
you're throwing there another school. Kirby Smart has been against
the expansion of the playoff and all this, whereas now
we've seen Georgia.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Dylan Royola, who was.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Quarterback for the last year now is the backup behind
Dante More at Oregon, was originally committed to Georgia and
he left to go to Nebraska because even though Georgia
is a better team than Nebraska, he didn't have to
compete for a starting job. And it's like, all right, well,
I can go to Nebraska and try to beat these
guys in the College football Playoff. Now that there's expansion,

(10:20):
there's twelve teams and you're talking about massive nil collectives
that are I'm still going to be getting paid when
I'm getting paid to Georgia, and I can go try
to beat those guys. When athletes weren't getting paid, you
wanted to go somewhere that had the most exposure. So
why would you go to a smaller school that probably
wasn't going to be playing when the college ball playoff

(10:40):
came around. So I'm not saying Nick Saban's entirely wrong.
I like some of his points. But we're talking about
regulation and Olympic sports like crime River. I'm sorry, maybe
that's not popular. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I watched college football college basketball, all right, that those
two sports produce the women's side as well. The women's
college basketball produces big numbers. When Kaylen Clark and Angel
Reeves were going at it, those were drawing massive numbers
and massive crowds to schools across the country. But let's
stop pretending like the men's soccer team or the women's

(11:13):
fancy team whatever is drawing big numbers in that regard.
These college ball programs and college basketball programs are paying
for a large portion of these sports to.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Stay around, and I don't want them to stay around.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
But Nick Saban acting like he's not calling for regulations
on coaches contracts.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
He's not calling that.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
If Alabama had told Nick Saban, you're gonna take less
money because of regulation, he would have been on the
phone with every other FBS college, Texas, Ohio State, anyone
who would have wonted Nick Saban to get the most
money possible. So has it gone too far where players
are transferring left and right, and you know, breaking contracts

(11:53):
and they have all the power, and these schools are
trying to recruit their own players. Yes, I think it has,
but going back to how it was certainly was not
the answer. It's good that these kids are getting paid.
If you can get yourself something with the nil, go
for it.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You should.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And you're seeing that some of the former teams that
you used to dominate. Alabama hasn't been the same. Maybe
that do with Saban leaving Dabo Sweeney refused to get
into the transfer portal. Clemson has not been the same
since those years with Deshaun Watson. Georgia now that everyone
else can pay, Lincoln Riley took a shot at the
SEC saying, yeah, now everyone can pay. Look as Georgia

(12:33):
have been winning titles. Nothing right, No, they went back
to back the last three years. The Big Ten has
won the national championship game. So it's even out college football.
And some of the old players in this, as evidenced
by Nick Saban, don't like it. And so now you're
hearing this, do I want the bipartisan bill one hundred percent?
There needs to be a governing body, But let's stop
pretending like kids getting their money and all. This is

(12:54):
bad for the support because it's not all right. Coming
up next, we got some drama, some drama out of
the NF with a potential quarterback who could be on
the move, Baker Mayfield. We're getting into that. On the
other side, what teams would be interested in him? Plus
AJ Brown admits he was ratting on his own team.
We're gonna play some sound for you. We got Matt Divine,
Divine Sports Gospel coming up in about fifteen minutes talking

(13:17):
some podreys ahead of this series against the Mess. To
stay tuned for all that going along Standing with Sports
seven sixty Lave on the iHeartRadio at Jay Silves his
lineups out for the Potter's I'll pull that up here
in a second. We got Matt Divine coming up in
about ten minutes talking everything Podreys six point nine from
our first conversation Brent and I talking about the the

(13:38):
Chiefs and the and the Bears moving out of their cities. Said,
do the La Rams and the other team that play
in LA play in the same city.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Answer?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
No, they play in Inglewood. It's fair, it's fair, but
Inglewood is Los Angeles. No one's like you're jumping state
lines a little bit different. But my bigger problem is
I think you're jumping state lines. It's that it's historic
sites that you're getting rid of, Like Arrowhead right now
is gonna go kind of unused because Casey has a

(14:10):
bunch of venues like the Sprint Center and places to
hold concerts.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
The new Chief Stadium's gonna hold concerts.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
So it's kind of gonna be renderless because you know,
even when the World Cup comes, it's gonna be it's
gonna be gonna be the new spot. So all right, Well,
got Potter's coming up in about nine minutes. Interesting stuff
out of the NFL. AJ Brown had was talking to
Maria Taylor and was talking about all the drama then

(14:38):
went down in Philly the year before, if we all
remember there was the positivity Bunny, Yes, the positivity Bunny
that they put in the locker room to change the vibes.
It was a real story. Halfway through the season last
year you had Jalen Hurts getting called out that he
couldn't get the ball and getting the ball to his
receivers and DeVante Smith and AJ Brown. AJ Brown's frustrated

(15:01):
with targets. It came out that Nick Sirianni was a
guy who that players didn't believe in come to find
out the league was Aj Brown himself from his own mouth.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
It was done purposely to give us a push. I
know if I say something in the media, I know
it's gonna propere prepel us to work on it. If
you say what you need to say in the media,
which I want to do that anymore. It gives everything
legs and legs to pushing in, to push everybody to
be to be better because pressure. Pressure isn't always a

(15:32):
bad thing. It can also be a good thing too. Honestly,
I feel like it was okay to do because we
had gotten in luck on them who are men?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Aj Brown?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Okay, there's the difference between motivating the team in trashing
your own players for your own benefit.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
But those are two very different things.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
There's motivation of guys need to buy in and this
team is not fully locked in.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's one thing.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But calling out your starting quarterback who won a Super
Bowl for you.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
By the way, two super bowls destroyed the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
And one played very well in the one the Chiefs
won very well in that game. I know he had
the fumble, but still Jalen Hurts showcased himself. Well in
those two games, and you calling out your quarterback that
he can't throw the ball, how does that help? And
then you go to calling out your coach. I don't
believe Nick Siriann is a good coach. We've got some
Eagle fans on the text line here that don't really

(16:27):
like it, Casey. Everyone in Philadelphia is breathing easier now
that AJ is out of town. Absolute hogwash on his part.
Good luck Drake, You're gonna need it, buddy. Talking about Drake,
may I mean calling out your coach, calling out the
offense a positivity buddy. If I'm a New England Patriots fan,
I'm nervous right now because the Patriots, I think saw

(16:50):
this week when the trade went down, that they were
getting passed by a lot of teams. I mean think,
does anyone think that Samar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Patrick
Mahomes are all going to miss the playoffs again? I don't,
Especially when you look at the AFC North, you gotta
figure that the Ravens and the Bengals. Bengals have the
fourth easiest schedule I believe in the entire league, and

(17:11):
the Ravens are the favorites.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
To get out of the AFC. The Chiefs are the
third favorites, so.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Vegas is telling you they think that they're going to
be in the playoffs. So that's gonna kick out three teams.
The Chargers getting their tackles back, I think they'll be
in the mix. Broncos I think could be in for
a little bit of regression. They won a lot of
one score games last year. Huge comeback on against the Giants,
barely beat the Jets in London, beat the Chiefs third stringers,
so they could be out. You got Houston and Jacksonville.

(17:36):
Got to figure the Bills will be back in the mix.
So like looking at the entire AFC, then you have
the Patriots. I think the Patriots see that. Well, the
Jets aren't gonna be good this year. They got Omar
Cooper Junior from Indiana the receiver. They got Kenyan Sadik
the tie end from Oregon, and then they went and.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Got David Bailey with the number two pick.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
They're setting the table to potentially get an arch Manning
or a Dante More next year. The Dolphins in their
own division probably aren't going to be elite, but will
be exciting.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
A chan Malik Willis.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Maybe they got something to surprise the people they're building
for the future. I think the Patriots know when they
went to the Super Bowl lacklus are showing in that game.
They were fortunate in that in the wildcard round, the
Chargers scored a futrid three points and their entire offensive
line was hurt. In the Houston Texans game the divisional round,
Nico Collins star receiver was out wood he Marks, their

(18:27):
running back was out, Dalton s soulcer tight end was out.
Stroud turned the ball over four times in the first half,
and the Charlotte tackle Laramie Tunseel was out as well,
got hurt in the game. And then he beat the
Broncos with no bo Nicks in the AFC title game. Oh,
by the way, by three points, So not exactly a
great showing. This felt desperate to me, so we turned
back to the aj Brown trade. Is this the best

(18:50):
thing to do with a with a young quarterback?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
That I know?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
We went to the Super Bowl, but Drake May has
allowed to prove. Drake May is a ton to prove.
They played the easiest schedule regular schedule in about twenty
six years. Statistically, the Patriots played the easy schedule in
twenty six years. Last year, their two best wins during
the regular season with the Tampa Bay Bucks on the
road and they got to win over the Bills in
a week four. They kind of put him on the map,

(19:15):
so they have a ton to prove, Like, where where
would you put Drake man AFC. He's not better than Mahomes, Burrow,
Alan Lamar, I take Herbert over him. I mean you
could argue Trevor Lawrence. There's a lot of guys you
would take over him. So you could argue Bo Nicks
that these are all up in the air. It felt
like a desperation move. So aj Brown now is in

(19:36):
that clip that we played assuring that he won't do
this again. He won't be leaking stuff again. What happens
when the Patriots, if they don't get out to the
start they need. What happens to Drake May isn' getting
him the ball. He was talking trash about Jalen Hurts,
who was a Super Bowl winning quarterback who got to
throw his ring in everyone's face. People might question the
greatness of Jalen Hurts or is he a traditional drop

(19:58):
back passer, But at the end of the day. He
got to go, I've won a Super Bowl, so respectfully,
shut up, and I don't want to hear your nonsense.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
What's gonna happen to?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Drake May were talking about the Patriots organization, like the
whole Vrabel stuff in the off season.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
There's a lot going on there. Adding AJ Brown.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
To that mix to try to dictate and be a
leader in that locker room with a young team. I
don't get it. I think it was a desperation move
by the by the Patriots, and I think it will backfire.
I think the Eagles are better off replacing McKay lemon
or replacing AJ Brown with McKayle lemon then rolling back
with AJ Brown A five A text in AJ Brown
not AJ Clown. He also, by the way, has a

(20:40):
degenerative knee disease or condition by the Rams actually passed
on him. The Rams were looking at the trade for
him before the Miles Garrett trade and they didn't like
his medicals.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Apparently the Patriots are okay with it. This feels desperate
to me.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think it's going to backfire, and the Patriots as
a season approaches here need football Batman football back. On
the other side, Mad Divine, Divine Sports Gospel, Get into
these padres lineup just came out and some spicy, some
spicy thoughts from a major MLB network pundit. Where to
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Speaker 1 (21:16):
Hey know the wrong with a little heat, flat fire?

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Who's next in the hot seat?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Matd Divine Divine Sports Gospel, Great Instagram count as well
as on ex friend of the show, joining me once again, Matt,
what's going on?

Speaker 8 (21:32):
Dude?

Speaker 9 (21:34):
What's up? Sammy? Good to hear from you man, Happy Friday.
Wish we could be talking while the padre and a
dim one wind streak, But unfortunately, you know, it's been
a little bit of a downward spiral the last couple
of weeks for San Diego Podgers.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yes, it has been h They have certainly been a
tough watch. Like, I mean, what do you so they
get off to the great record early, everyone's kind of going.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
The metrics aren't great.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
They're currently worst batting average in Major League Baseball right now,
but they're winning ball games and now it's you know,
they're one to nine in the last ten skys falling.
Where do you fall in it? Do you are you
there's somewhere in the middle. Do you think this is
the real team and they were covering it up with
close wins, or do you think they can get back
to where they were early in the year.

Speaker 9 (22:18):
I actually kind of agree with everything you just said, right.
I think we were a little bit more in the
middle than we were probably in the beginning, where we're
like this like team that's gonna win all these games
even though we can't hit. I also don't think we're
a one to nine. You know, we're not going to
lose one hundred games. I think this team is. You know,
we have a great bullpen, even though the bullpen's been
a little shaky lately. We have some starting pitchers that

(22:39):
have been able to keep us in games, and we
have some bloated contracts that just aren't hitting their weight now.
For example, you know, Manny Machado has a one to
seventy batting average, Jackson Merrill has had like a six
to sixty OPS over the past three hundred and sixty
five calendar days. Tattieth has one home run. Zanderbergartz has
been pretty bad for the last month plus. So when

(23:00):
you have your four big guys just not hitting, it's
hard to assume that this team is going to be,
you know, some world beater or some World Series contender.
Do I think the season's over?

Speaker 7 (23:10):
No?

Speaker 9 (23:11):
Do I think there's room for you know, genuine concerns
in the fan base. Absolutely. I think if you're a
bottom three team in all offensive categories, it's hard to
think that this is going to change necessarily or at
least we're going to go from bottom three to oh hey,
now let's just actually swing up fastballs earlier in talents
and then how we're a top ten offense. Like, I
don't know if that's how it's gonna go. Don't get

(23:32):
me started on you know, the lack of catching, debt
and and kind of where we're out there overall. You know,
I don't think we're as bad as we've been the
last two weeks, but I don't know if we're necessarily
a you know, World Series contender. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
So you mentioned those four that really have not produced
so far this season, the big four of the potteries.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Who who are you most concerned of that grouping?

Speaker 6 (23:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Like would it be Machado because of the age or
some one of the other guys.

Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean I have come to assume Xander Art
is just going to be a bad contract unfortunately. Like
I don't think he's anything more than you know, out
his peak. Maybe he can get us a seven to
fifty ops season right now, though It's just like I
just don't like he's just in. My expectations for him
are low. My expectations for the other three are high. Right.
So Manny, for example, you know that contract it's pretty gnarly,

(24:21):
like it's not great now, which it's really bad in
the next year and for eight more years. So my
biggest issue with Manny is like, hey, this is the
time that you're supposed to be raking, so that one
where at the end of your contract for like at
least he got you know, three great years or four
great years at the beginning of that contract. Tatis. You know,
I've just come to assume with Tatisa is he's going
to go on these top stretches and he's also going

(24:43):
to go on some some not so hot stretches. I
think he's going to be fine out of all of them.
And Jackson Medal had some good swings lately, but if
he doesn't learn to not chase, you know, I don't
know how valuable of a player he is. You get
Obviously this year for Jackson, he's only getting paid two million.
He's still only twenty three. So I want to necessarily
as concerned. He's shown that he could be a great
Big leaguer, but it is a little concerning how much

(25:05):
he's been chasing, how little he's been walking, and the
power is kind of gone. So you know, it's definitely
room for concern for all four and unfortunately for the Padres.
And I think the reason why the stand base is
so you know, the shrawn is like these are these
are our four guys, right, It's like it's not like
these guys are gone next year, Like these are the
guys that are going to be, you know, into the
twenty thirties that were with So we really need them

(25:27):
to start hitting.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Matt Devine from Devine Sports Gospible joining me right now,
as well as Potters collected with Kevin ac and John Schaeffer.
So let's let's stick with the mindset that they're going
to buy at the deadline. So I'll ask you about
what would take for them to sell in a second,
but they've been linked to Trek'scooble. Now every team basically
in Major League Baseball has been linked to Trek Schooble.
It thinks they have a shot at winning a World

(25:49):
Series if the Potter's are on buy now mode and
let's say it is just a half year rental, are
you making that move if if you're able to you'r
aj preller or does that even makes sense considering starting
pitching like hitting has been the biggest problem.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean to be honest, like, I totally can
see Proler trying. But at the same time, it's like
our farm system outside Ethan Salas is a little light,
and by a little, I think, not super great. I
do think we have some underrated guys that might not
be on like the MLB Top one hundred pipeline, But
for what we're thinking of is probably eleven or twelve

(26:27):
starts with Terk Skubal. Do I think that's the difference
between this team going from you know, five or six
seed barely making it in the playoffs and playing on
the road in the wild card to like winning the division.
I don't so. I don't think it's worth it. In
my opinion. There is the argument of, hey, maybe this
is just a gnarly two month stretch for the offense.

(26:47):
They figure it out, and we need a horse to
get us into the playoffs. And like pitch Game one,
I understand that. Do I think it's smart. Absolutely not.
He's also a Boris client and he's coming off an
injury where he's doing a we have to start on Sunday.
I don't know if I buy the fact that you
just have this weird little surgery and he's going to
be good to go. Like, I think a lot of

(27:07):
teams are just assuming that he's going to be you know,
the terrorst school of the last couple of years he
went through. He was under the nice three weeks ago, right,
So it's like, I don't think it's worth it. I
think obviously, when you have the worst offense in baseball,
spending a lot of outsets on a mental starting pitchure
would not be smart.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
It does feel like a j Peller is looking around
like if these guys aren't going to hit, then I'm
just gonna try to get this unbelievable bullpen with Chapman
and Hater they've been linked to and and now Terrek Scouble.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
So let's say the pottery is keep on this trajectory,
they're falling out of contention. Danl is certainly very very
competitive right now. Are you looking at the big names
to potentially sell off to mention tatis? I don't know
who take the Machado contract. Chris Rose from you know,
he's been on MLB network a lot over the year
years mentioned he thought that they could possibly traine me Miller.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Those were his words. Where would you entertain with any
of that?

Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah, I mean, we're not trading tatists. We're not trading Machado,
and we're not trading Mason Miller given what we gave
up for him. You don't give up six years or
seven years of control on a top five prospect in
baseball and then trade the guy after a year. So
Mason Miller, if it makes anyone feel better, Uh, we're
not training any of those guys, even though sometimes I

(28:25):
wish we could trade manny H. I would say right
now if we were, if we were to quote unquote,
Sell and I talked about this, and we actually John
Kevin and I talked about it on the Collective last night.
You know, our best assets are these reliever you know,
the Adrian Morejones, Jason Adams, Jeremiah Strata. Unfortunately, now a
lot of teams are going to give up really valuable

(28:47):
prospects for you know, half a season of Adrian mooretone.
Even though there are a lot of teams that need
bullpen help, the reliever aspect is probably the least valuable
position when it comes to trading. So I would be
surprised if you traded anyone like really dig I could
see you know, Jeremiah Strada, maybe a prospect going somewhere.

(29:11):
But yeah, I mean, honestly, I the more I think
about it, the more I'm like, man, I really need
these guys to hit, because it's a lot more fun
to talk about who we're requiring than who we're trading.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes, certainly, and baseball it's weird because you for acquiring
prospects and it's not like the NFL where you're getting
draft picks or NBA you're you know, getting high picks
or young players.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Certainly is uh, you.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Know, they're like apparently these guys are gonna be going
in a couple of years, so it's kind of a
wait and see Matt, I appreciate you jumping on with
me today.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Man, Matt, Divine.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Divine Sports gospelll go shoot them a follow on x
as well as Instagram and check them out with Kevin A. C.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
And John Shaffer on Potters Collected.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
Awesome good weekend.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah see, Matt.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, the the Mason Miller thing is interesting, Like Chris
Rose brought it up, and that's what Ben and I
were talking about it earlier.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Matt's point, I agree with.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's I don't see it happening from AJ Preller's stance
because that's probably the death Knell and AJ Preller's tenure.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I've been a real AJ Preller defender over the years
because has.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Everything worked out? Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
But you know, I know people point to the Bogarts
and many contracts.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well you know, was that him? Yes?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
But Peter Sidler, who we we you know, we love,
unbelieve blowner for the city. It did feel a little desperate,
especially with the Xander Bogarts. You miss Allen Aaron Judge,
you miss Allen Trede Turner, you bit more than the Phillies.
But he wanted to go back to the East coast,
so you just throw everything he could Exander Bogarts I,
you know, I like Aj Preller. If you trade to

(30:48):
Matt's point Leo Devrees, who could end up being an
absolute star for the Las Vegas As in a year
or two, and then you flip Miller the next year.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Probably not the best.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Look for you was a GM, even though for the
team if they bought him out.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
This is completely attention on.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Let's say we're talking here in a month and the
NL is so stacked, and you know that they've fallen
out of contention. They just fell out of the playoffs
yesterday when they when they lost, and they're so out
of it. For the long term prospect of the future,
Miller would get a ton because he is the best
closer in baseball.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
And if you're a team like the Yankees, like like
not that you would want tram in the Phillies, but
a team like that Seattle, a team like that in
the AL that is looking for that kind of to
push him over the top and compete against the top
of the NL, you certainly would get back your entire
farm system.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Is that exciting a lot of.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
People here in San Diego probably probably not, especially because
Mason Miller has probably been the one of the few
bright spots at.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
The ballpark this this this year.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
But then the on the flip side, I'm talking about
it again, this is if they bought him out. Having
the best closer in baseball doesn't matter if you.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Never have a lead.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And at this point, it's like many Machado not tradable.
No one wants that contract. Bogarts is not tradable. No
one wants that contract the second you start shopping around.
Jackson Merrill, Yeah, he's twenty three years old, so people
would be.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Excited about that.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Teams would be excited about the prospect of him dominating,
but it's also been a while since his rookie season.
I think there's gonna be some red flags raised up,
like you're giving away a twenty three year.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Old potential star slugger. What's wrong with him?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Tatis would be the one I do think would still
get a ton you know, I know, the he hasn't
been great this year. One home run, but the Yankees,
a team like that, would certainly show out a farm
system for the name of Frando Tatis, because they're they're
always big.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Game hunting, but it'll be a conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
They'll certainly heat up it's arts this weekend against the Mets.
I mean, there is zero excuse this weekend to lose
this series. You need to go two, a three or
for a suite. There is no if some butts about it.
The Pattery's I've talked about a nauseum this week. They
cannot beat the upper tier teams in the end on
the Ale outside of the Mariners. One thing that Pottery's
have shown this year they can beat the subpar teams,

(33:05):
and the Mets have not lived up to stuff this year.
They have not been a very good team. So it's
ours with this weekend. They need to ball out at home.
Zero excuses for the bats to not get going, especially
against the suspect Mets lineup that you can definitely get
to Alan slee Well on the other side, coming up
with me, going along will Crossover action Sandy Go Sports
seven sixty live on the iHeart Radio.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
App Sammy sleiwa fifteen minutes of goodness we call Crossover.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
You're talking to Matt Devine from the Divine Sports Gospel
Hop about with me. In the last segment, Ale Sleeve
was here taking us into the weekend.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
What is going on, Sammy freaking long?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You and you and Brant been holding it down all week. Yeah,
John Schaeffer is looking on vacation.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
You know, it's so different doing your own show and
you're doing a show with somebody, and especially Schaeffer. Schaeffer
for the most part, he's sitting in the driver's seat.
So I'm like the I'm like the guy in the
passenger seat just eating sunflower seeds and not just reacting. Yeah,
just my my arm is out the window and I
have no worries at all. And then this week I'm like, Brent,

(34:20):
we need this sound this.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
If you actually say use this to fod Castle sound,
I won't play. I want to get Allen's reaction on this.
But yeah, doing the doing the whole solo show, it is.

Speaker 10 (34:31):
Like you can't and for yeah, it's all good, but
it's also like the night before I'm like, oh Jesus,
what are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (34:40):
For three hours?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Flesh and I we did this.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
We did if you're a listener of Flesh and I show,
We did Circus Survivor. So we did a thing where
we had one NFL pick weekly and if you got
it wrong.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
You pick one team the entire season?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Oh yeah, yeahhah. We took a great that's a great
way of doing it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
That was basically whenever we didn't know what to talk about,
right a Circus Survivor, that was the show prep.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
When we ran out of things, talk about right to CIRCLEP.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Minus Padres can't hit. Yes, that's mine that What is
the goodbody.

Speaker 10 (35:07):
Who's listening in San Diego and to say Padres can't hit?

Speaker 6 (35:10):
They're like, oh, yeah, this guy knows what he's talking.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, Jacobson's already on the on the YouTube. What does
it deal with the new coach? Is it a whole
new staff? Yeah, Steven Susan, that's a that's a whole
other conversation. But Brent, you have the fan Castle sown. Okay,
this was sefan Castle was asked about the difference between
Jalen Brunson in SGA.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
This is what he has.

Speaker 11 (35:27):
Said, Uh, biggest difference. I said, they're very similar in ways. Honestly,
Jalen's left handed shaded right handed. But I think Shae
he's more of a threat to get all the way
down here, all the way to the basket. I think

(35:48):
Jalen likes to use angles a lot more use us,
probably a little bit more pump fixed than Shae. But yeah,
most is his angles and kind of get to his
spots and not really trying to draw fouls as much,
but uh, trying to get to his mid range and
gets his flash to what he likes. So just trying

(36:09):
to keep him from doing that.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Not trying to draw fouls as much.

Speaker 10 (36:14):
That's the truth, right, Like stylistically, that's his game. Look,
Shay is known and the reason why everybody churned on Shay.
Gilles Alexander. I was talking to a guy I'm at
the gym, really really nice guy, and every time I
see him, he wants to talk, wants to talk shop
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
And he's given me the example.

Speaker 10 (36:31):
He's like, if I'm playing in a pickup game and
the guy I'm trying to guard, I don't touch him
and he just falls in a pickup game, Look, I
would stop the game and tell.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
The guy, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Great point, and.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
There's a little bit of that, I think from a
fan base perspective, and you know, I'm sure from a
player perspective as well.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
I still go back to this.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
You can look at it two ways, and Jalen Brunson
is definitely you know, there's some old school in Jalen Brunson.
And by the way, SCA could get that same love
and respect too if he just you know, he's got
to respect the game as well and say, hey, I'm
too good of a player to try to play that style, right.
I think that's what bothered most people. But Brunston's got
a that's all school. Jalen Brunston just seems like that

(37:11):
guy that just I don't know, you just had dinner
and somebody's like, hey, you can't you know, you can't guard,
and he said, let's go, let's go to a giant,
you know, Like he just seems that he's just a
he's a hooper.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
To that point about Jaylen Brunston, I agree with everything
you just said. Jalen Brunston in Game one in the
NBA Finals gets his footstep down by Luke Cornett, smashes
his knee. Think maybe he's out for the series. Dude
comes back, ends up with thirty points. Like gritty, just
tough player. He doesn't have all the tangibles. He's not tall.
Becky Hammond and Draymond Green have openly talked about how
they don't think a player six to two or under

(37:42):
can lead to it be the number one on championship team.
He's just gritty to you the point you just made
it about SGA. It's a shame for SGA because he
has all the talent to not have to flop, to
not have to use that to sell to his advantage.
But it is telling sometimes when the amount of criticism
that a fans are always going to criticize, especially when

(38:03):
you think there's a dynasty. You know that people if
you're not a fan of that team, you get tired
of watching that team win. It's surprising to me, though,
the amount of hate SGA gets, and I think it's
justified from former players and current players as evidenced by
Stefan Castle. I think people like it shows something about
his ceiling of where we're gonna view SGA if he

(38:23):
keeps up this trajectory of this is the narrative of
his career at the constant fallabating.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
The beauty is.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
He's got a lot of his career left, and I
hope this year kind of, you know, I hope that
kind of cleans up his game a little bit because
if he just comes back next season and is like,
all right, I'm gonna take that part out of my game.
I don't know how much it really helped me. Do
I really need to do I need to be perceived
this way like this should Shake Gilgess Alexander be one

(38:50):
of the more hated players in the NBA. Right he
doesn't have that personality, like the guy actually is very likable.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
I mean, listening to a postgame interview and.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
Everything else, he's not like talking Serpent Bunch where you're like, oh,
it's not like I don't know Dylan Brooks, where it's
like he may he wants to be the villain.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
I don't think Shake Gill just wants to be the villain.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
But but the conversation moving forward, And I don't know
how much you watch Nicks basketball. I don't want much
watch much at all. That game won, and we'll see
what happens to nine.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Game two. Brunson was a killer.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
It's not even like obviously his his shot attempts, the
amount of shot.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
He wasn't a fish or anything like that. But when
they needed.

Speaker 10 (39:25):
Buckets that fourth quarter, that's what that's what the best
of the best doing.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
He didn't shy away from the moment at all, and.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I thought it was telling.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
How the Knicks get down fourteen one turnover in the
third quarter like that.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
That looked like a team.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
They played defense too, like defense veteran.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
They were all acquired via trade. And the Spurs did
look young.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
You saw the talent in the first half, but they
looked young, and that they got a little bit after him.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I do expect the response to Night, but I have
a joint.

Speaker 10 (39:52):
Seriously, you can't go to I mean that this, this
is this is must win territory for the Spurs. Yes,
we got to come up on the show today. Got
busy show, very very busy show. Bob Nightingale three point fifteen.
Keith rad who does Mets Radio is going to join
us at four. Brad Turner, who you saw La Times
had that conversation with Austin Reeves. He'll join the show
at five, and then of course Kevin Acy at five thirty.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
So we're packed today.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Look at look at look at it and see you
all right, stay tuned for him. On the other side,
everybody have a good weekend. Follow my Belmont picks. I
got everybody locks for this weekend with the Ponies. Go
back and listen to the podcast at twelve forty five
with Fletch and I.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Everyone have a good weekend. See on Monday.
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