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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight, twenty thirteen ten W I B A and ask
the experts, joined this morning by Kevin Ham, master arborist
with Ham's Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
A m MS arborcare dot com. Tell forh number eight
sixty six five nine six five three nine six. That's
eight six six five nine six five three nine six.
(00:20):
And Kevin, it feels like every time I talk with
you or message you, I learned something new about you.
You are you are a a broad onion. There is
a lot, a lot of layers to your interests. And
before we get to talking legacy trees and uh, and
we'll talk about boilers. Yes, we're going to talk about
(00:41):
boilers with Kevin in just a moment. But you shared
with me a photo of some very cool looking vintage
axes that that you uh, that you ever sailed. But
they're sitting on a pool table, which is a beautiful
pool table that you act actually built, your am, I
(01:01):
do you actually built the pool table?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I did, indeed, quite a few years ago. I make
jokes about that guy I used to know, yeh. But yeah,
we had cut down some ash trees and I remember
specifically what ash tree it was. There were a couple
(01:25):
that we utilized. One was in a farmyard, the old
Schultz farm which is still there by the hospital in Portage, Wisconsin,
and we took down a thirty inch diameter ash tree
there that produced some really nice boards. And then we
took down a pretty big ash tree up on in
(01:47):
the Baarboo Bluffs at a property there, and I remember
utilizing both those trees to get some really vintage boards
out of there. The side underneath the table top, the
side panels are there were two two by twelve ash
(02:11):
you know, clear, and and we what we did is
we took one by twelves and we we opposite and
the post we posed the cupping the grain pattern. You know,
your your trunk is round, right, so you have you
have a curvature to your to your wood. So if
(02:35):
if you have a one by twelve inch piece of wood,
it will tend to want to cup. That means it'll
kind of warp in that curvature. And so if you
place those those curvatures against each other and laminate them together,
you create a very stable two by twelve board. So
(03:01):
it's a very it's like five hundred pounds of wood
in this pool table. And then we bought a Brunswick
slate from it came out of a quarry in Brazil,
I believe if I remember right, And and it was
a three piece slate. So that was a process to
(03:23):
get together and get perfect and the rails, getting the
right angles on all the rails, it was quite the
I had to really put on a melancholy, you know,
detailed orientated hat for that. Somehow I managed to do
it and it works well, We've got good it's all
(03:44):
spec I wanted to make a full competition size, and
I lost the domestic discussion about what room it was going.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yes, familiar with that discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, And so I got the room that to the furnace,
and so I had to go with a seven foot
table versus a nine foot But it's a beautiful table
and I'm happy with it. And yeah, so I have
the axes all displayed on there. My friend, my good friend,
Poe Waterdo somebody listening here might know Poe. He lives
(04:20):
over by Fall River and he's gotten into restoring vintage
axes and this is a thing in the in the industry,
and these guys get a hold of these axes on auctions,
and you know they they scrap for them and compete
(04:41):
for him, and you know they're not they're not inexpensive
little items. But if you like vintage axes, they're pretty cool.
And we've branded them with Game of Trees with a laser,
so they're they're nice.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Those are those are it's They're absolutely beautiful. And I've
got to ask you, Kevin, do you use an axe
at all in your Obviously we think of traditional folks
and involved in you know, even like lumberjacks and others,
But do you is there a time where you've had
to use it like an actual axe?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah? Well what we what we use in the field.
And I bought one of these for every one of
my my guys. And there's a guy out in Grant's Pass,
Oregon that I bought like thirteen access from and he
uh does a great job of stettying the heads too.
(05:37):
And it's quite a process to set the head. You
don't just stick it on there. You put it in
and out of the axe head many many times as
you fit it perfectly to the axe head. And they
we use them for banging wedges. They're affectionately called a
(05:58):
wedge banger, and we of course use wedges as we're
felling trees and you might be pounding a wedge into
the back of a you know, a back cut and
to get the tree to come over, and so we'll
often use wedges. And it's nice you always have your
your axe, your wedge bang or handy at the tree
(06:19):
when you're you're doing it. So I have one that
I utilize and all the guys have theirs, so nobody
has an excuse of I don't have anything to bang
a wedge with. We we've got those and so that's
that's the practical side. And those have a cutting edge
on one side, and then it's a flat, you know,
(06:40):
banging edge. Yes, you can use it as a swinging
to drive a wedge. And then we have a couple
of the double edged axes that are are more for topping.
And those are some pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, they look and I know just looking at them.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Are worthy of hanging above the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Pudd I we're gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you
about about getting heat in just a moment, because I
do look at these, for example, the ones that the
ones that you've got, those vintage axes that you have
they're going to be selling and other things those that
look beautiful on a wall.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And speaking of heat, you mentioned of course your your
pool table is in is in the room with a furnace.
You're looking into, uh, boilers, am i am I am I?
Is that is that? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, Sean, Uh, it's hard to keep a visionary down.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you know, we're we're venturing into the biochar and
we've got our prototype kiln that we're working on and
it it is fashioned to to work in series with
a outdoor boiler. And so many people might be aware
of an outdoor boiler. You know, it's it's outside, can
(08:00):
feed large piece of the wood into it. And there's
various brands out there and in the the you know
Portage in Maine and I live by Portage. It's not
made in Portage. It's actually made in Canada, where things,
you know, good heating systems should be made in Canada. Uh,
(08:21):
and Portage and main outdoor boilers. It is a very clean,
simple design, has some great features and and so we
were looking for, you know, something to work in conjunction
with our kiln and and this is a great company,
and you know, building the brand game of trees. You know,
(08:44):
once you have a brand, you know, I sell lead
to arborous right, and you know tree guys, every tree
guy should have an outdoor boiler. And so it just
makes sense with with the biochart and everything to kind
(09:05):
of round out the products. And I have found a
guy I called actually the distributor up in Canada gave
me a call, you know, cold call, and he had
he had gotten my name from one of his distributors
in Minnesota because I'd reached out to him and I
was just on his list of people a call and
(09:26):
he called me and have you ever talked to somebody Sean?
And italls like why have we not been friends for
a long time? It was one of those conversations It's
like how did it take us, you know, sixty years
to run into each other? And uh, and so you know,
I just it was kind of one of those things
(09:47):
like I think we're going to be uh connected for
a while. And and so what I'm you know, what
I'm now, you know, kind of what I'm doing here
is I've found something that I like and I'm going
to in good faith promote it and we'll move some
stoves for for them, you know, before we're at a distributor,
(10:09):
and just because it's it's the right thing to do.
So it's it's something I can can provide. What I have,
I will give and so we're looking forward to what
the future will bring with this. But it definitely fits
what we do is we look to build a new shop.
(10:33):
This is definitely going to be part of it. They
come a course in different sizes, uh, and to eat
different amount of spaces. But yeah, it's a it's a great,
great product and it fits in with what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It sounds like it's going to be a great partnership, definitely.
I keep folks posted on that. And Kevin, as I
look out the window today, looks like a nice one
out there. A good time to be talking tree planting.
You can you guys are still planting trees, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Absolutely the dormant planting season. And you know, as we
come in to fall here, we're gonna get some rain,
We're gonna get some snow. You get the moisture through
the winter and then springtime usually has that wet, sauty
period where you can't walk on your lawn hardly and
(11:20):
that's a great time to have a tree in the
ground that really spring to really get that jump and
so dormant planting, you know, from October fifteenth and beyond
is a great time to get trees in the ground.
We just a few contracts came in just recently. We're
running making our last run to one of our nurseries
(11:43):
locally here where we're picking up all of our stock
that we've had on hold. And then we of course
we've got our nursery, our legacy tree nursery that has
a great variety of trees in it, and we'll be
doing a lot of planting over the next month.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's a great data get get get that call, get
that get online if you haven't been to the website
Hamsarborcare dot com. Even better, get on the schedule with
hams Arborcare. Talking about night year warranty, you're not gonna
beat that. It's like and that's and that's not and
that's not hyperboil. That is absolute fact. You're you're not
gonna beat that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We're gonna we're gonna look at that tree every year.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's not like we just put it in and forget
about it. Uh, it goes on the list and we
we've got that list. It pops up on the day
in November here and and then we kind of throughout
the winner, we're gonna be going by and taking a
look at the structure on those trees and make a
clip here, clip there, you know, and and do the
training pruning and it's a great deal.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a fantastic deal. Today is they pick up phone,
give Kevin the team a call eight six six five
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six mentioned the website
Hamsarborcare dot com. Also come out at gameoftrees dot com.
They've got a great YouTube channel. Also. Kevin's on Instagram.
Follow him there. It's Kevin Ham at Game of Trees. Kevin.
(13:08):
It's always great show. Yes, oh yes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
One thing. If you buy anything on Beamon Trees, you're
in a drawing. Every dollar we'll go towards an entry
or a chainsaw, like a very nice chainsaw.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well I would I would assume that's that's got the.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Five sixty two ported and modified. I mean, if you
win it and you're not a pain saw person, you know,
you've got something yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
There's a resale reserve, Kevin. It sounds like a heck
of a heck of an opportunity. There looks like it's
gonna be a perfect day for a you enjoy.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We'll talk real soon, Thanks Sean, take care again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
A tough number eight six six five nine six five
three nine six
Eight, twenty thirteen ten W I B A and ask
the experts, joined this morning by Kevin Ham, master arborist
with Ham's Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
A m MS arborcare dot com. Tell forh number eight
sixty six five nine six five three nine six. That's
eight six six five nine six five three nine six.
(00:20):
And Kevin, it feels like every time I talk with
you or message you, I learned something new about you.
You are you are a a broad onion. There is
a lot, a lot of layers to your interests. And
before we get to talking legacy trees and uh, and
we'll talk about boilers. Yes, we're going to talk about
(00:41):
boilers with Kevin in just a moment. But you shared
with me a photo of some very cool looking vintage
axes that that you uh, that you ever sailed. But
they're sitting on a pool table, which is a beautiful
pool table that you act actually built, your am, I
(01:01):
do you actually built the pool table?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I did, indeed, quite a few years ago. I make
jokes about that guy I used to know, yeh. But yeah,
we had cut down some ash trees and I remember
specifically what ash tree it was. There were a couple
(01:25):
that we utilized. One was in a farmyard, the old
Schultz farm which is still there by the hospital in Portage, Wisconsin,
and we took down a thirty inch diameter ash tree
there that produced some really nice boards. And then we
took down a pretty big ash tree up on in
(01:47):
the Baarboo Bluffs at a property there, and I remember
utilizing both those trees to get some really vintage boards
out of there. The side underneath the table top, the
side panels are there were two two by twelve ash
(02:11):
you know, clear, and and we what we did is
we took one by twelves and we we opposite and
the post we posed the cupping the grain pattern. You know,
your your trunk is round, right, so you have you
have a curvature to your to your wood. So if
(02:35):
if you have a one by twelve inch piece of wood,
it will tend to want to cup. That means it'll
kind of warp in that curvature. And so if you
place those those curvatures against each other and laminate them together,
you create a very stable two by twelve board. So
(03:01):
it's a very it's like five hundred pounds of wood
in this pool table. And then we bought a Brunswick
slate from it came out of a quarry in Brazil,
I believe if I remember right, And and it was
a three piece slate. So that was a process to
(03:23):
get together and get perfect and the rails, getting the
right angles on all the rails, it was quite the
I had to really put on a melancholy, you know,
detailed orientated hat for that. Somehow I managed to do
it and it works well, We've got good it's all
(03:44):
spec I wanted to make a full competition size, and
I lost the domestic discussion about what room it was going.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yes, familiar with that discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, And so I got the room that to the furnace,
and so I had to go with a seven foot
table versus a nine foot But it's a beautiful table
and I'm happy with it. And yeah, so I have
the axes all displayed on there. My friend, my good friend,
Poe Waterdo somebody listening here might know Poe. He lives
(04:20):
over by Fall River and he's gotten into restoring vintage
axes and this is a thing in the in the industry,
and these guys get a hold of these axes on auctions,
and you know they they scrap for them and compete
(04:41):
for him, and you know they're not they're not inexpensive
little items. But if you like vintage axes, they're pretty cool.
And we've branded them with Game of Trees with a laser,
so they're they're nice.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Those are those are it's They're absolutely beautiful. And I've
got to ask you, Kevin, do you use an axe
at all in your Obviously we think of traditional folks
and involved in you know, even like lumberjacks and others,
But do you is there a time where you've had
to use it like an actual axe?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah? Well what we what we use in the field.
And I bought one of these for every one of
my my guys. And there's a guy out in Grant's Pass,
Oregon that I bought like thirteen access from and he
uh does a great job of stettying the heads too.
(05:37):
And it's quite a process to set the head. You
don't just stick it on there. You put it in
and out of the axe head many many times as
you fit it perfectly to the axe head. And they
we use them for banging wedges. They're affectionately called a
(05:58):
wedge banger, and we of course use wedges as we're
felling trees and you might be pounding a wedge into
the back of a you know, a back cut and
to get the tree to come over, and so we'll
often use wedges. And it's nice you always have your
your axe, your wedge bang or handy at the tree
(06:19):
when you're you're doing it. So I have one that
I utilize and all the guys have theirs, so nobody
has an excuse of I don't have anything to bang
a wedge with. We we've got those and so that's
that's the practical side. And those have a cutting edge
on one side, and then it's a flat, you know,
(06:40):
banging edge. Yes, you can use it as a swinging
to drive a wedge. And then we have a couple
of the double edged axes that are are more for topping.
And those are some pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, they look and I know just looking at them.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Are worthy of hanging above the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Pudd I we're gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you
about about getting heat in just a moment, because I
do look at these, for example, the ones that the
ones that you've got, those vintage axes that you have
they're going to be selling and other things those that
look beautiful on a wall.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And speaking of heat, you mentioned of course your your
pool table is in is in the room with a furnace.
You're looking into, uh, boilers, am i am I am I?
Is that is that? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, Sean, Uh, it's hard to keep a visionary down.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you know, we're we're venturing into the biochar and
we've got our prototype kiln that we're working on and
it it is fashioned to to work in series with
a outdoor boiler. And so many people might be aware
of an outdoor boiler. You know, it's it's outside, can
(08:00):
feed large piece of the wood into it. And there's
various brands out there and in the the you know
Portage in Maine and I live by Portage. It's not
made in Portage. It's actually made in Canada, where things,
you know, good heating systems should be made in Canada. Uh,
(08:21):
and Portage and main outdoor boilers. It is a very clean,
simple design, has some great features and and so we
were looking for, you know, something to work in conjunction
with our kiln and and this is a great company,
and you know, building the brand game of trees. You know,
(08:44):
once you have a brand, you know, I sell lead
to arborous right, and you know tree guys, every tree
guy should have an outdoor boiler. And so it just
makes sense with with the biochart and everything to kind
(09:05):
of round out the products. And I have found a
guy I called actually the distributor up in Canada gave
me a call, you know, cold call, and he had
he had gotten my name from one of his distributors
in Minnesota because I'd reached out to him and I
was just on his list of people a call and
(09:26):
he called me and have you ever talked to somebody Sean?
And italls like why have we not been friends for
a long time? It was one of those conversations It's
like how did it take us, you know, sixty years
to run into each other? And uh, and so you know,
I just it was kind of one of those things
(09:47):
like I think we're going to be uh connected for
a while. And and so what I'm you know, what
I'm now, you know, kind of what I'm doing here
is I've found something that I like and I'm going
to in good faith promote it and we'll move some
stoves for for them, you know, before we're at a distributor,
(10:09):
and just because it's it's the right thing to do.
So it's it's something I can can provide. What I have,
I will give and so we're looking forward to what
the future will bring with this. But it definitely fits
what we do is we look to build a new shop.
(10:33):
This is definitely going to be part of it. They
come a course in different sizes, uh, and to eat
different amount of spaces. But yeah, it's a it's a great,
great product and it fits in with what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It sounds like it's going to be a great partnership, definitely.
I keep folks posted on that. And Kevin, as I
look out the window today, looks like a nice one
out there. A good time to be talking tree planting.
You can you guys are still planting trees, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Absolutely the dormant planting season. And you know, as we
come in to fall here, we're gonna get some rain,
We're gonna get some snow. You get the moisture through
the winter and then springtime usually has that wet, sauty
period where you can't walk on your lawn hardly and
(11:20):
that's a great time to have a tree in the
ground that really spring to really get that jump and
so dormant planting, you know, from October fifteenth and beyond
is a great time to get trees in the ground.
We just a few contracts came in just recently. We're
running making our last run to one of our nurseries
(11:43):
locally here where we're picking up all of our stock
that we've had on hold. And then we of course
we've got our nursery, our legacy tree nursery that has
a great variety of trees in it, and we'll be
doing a lot of planting over the next month.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's a great data get get get that call, get
that get online if you haven't been to the website
Hamsarborcare dot com. Even better, get on the schedule with
hams Arborcare. Talking about night year warranty, you're not gonna
beat that. It's like and that's and that's not and
that's not hyperboil. That is absolute fact. You're you're not
gonna beat that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We're gonna we're gonna look at that tree every year.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's not like we just put it in and forget
about it. Uh, it goes on the list and we
we've got that list. It pops up on the day
in November here and and then we kind of throughout
the winner, we're gonna be going by and taking a
look at the structure on those trees and make a
clip here, clip there, you know, and and do the
training pruning and it's a great deal.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a fantastic deal. Today is they pick up phone,
give Kevin the team a call eight six six five
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six mentioned the website
Hamsarborcare dot com. Also come out at gameoftrees dot com.
They've got a great YouTube channel. Also. Kevin's on Instagram.
Follow him there. It's Kevin Ham at Game of Trees. Kevin.
(13:08):
It's always great show. Yes, oh yes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
One thing. If you buy anything on Beamon Trees, you're
in a drawing. Every dollar we'll go towards an entry
or a chainsaw, like a very nice chainsaw.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well I would I would assume that's that's got the.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Five sixty two ported and modified. I mean, if you
win it and you're not a pain saw person, you know,
you've got something yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
There's a resale reserve, Kevin. It sounds like a heck
of a heck of an opportunity. There looks like it's
gonna be a perfect day for a you enjoy.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We'll talk real soon, Thanks Sean, take care again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
A tough number eight six six five nine six five
three nine six
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