He Believed God

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I want to welcome you to Healing Begins. My name
is Pastor Gaale, and I have Stephanie with me. He said,
Hi Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey everybody. I hope you're doing great today. We're excited
to be with you.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Thank you for listening on the radio or whether you're
tuning in later by podcast. We're really glad you're here.
You know how many people were speaking to right now,
one one, the person that's just listening on the other end.
This is really focused on you right now. If you're
driving your car, it's on you, if you're in your house,

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wherever you're at listening to this later. So I chose
this topic. He believed God, and so one of the
reasons I chose it, there's so many times we're looking
for a formula. So in other words, give me the
formula for signs, wonders and miracles. You know what megachurches

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would do if they found a formula or they could
use every time and the miracles had happened, well, they'd
use it right and get even more mega. But that
ain't the way it works. It's not about a formula.
When God gives us a promise, you know, and we're
going to look at this here in these scriptures. When
God tells me to do something, he doesn't want me
to look at my checkbook. Yeah, okay, let me go

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into this for club. Let me let me go into this.
And Stephanie, could you read Romans four to three?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And the rest of those scriptures? Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Romans four three in the NIV says, what does scripture say?
Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness.
Genesis fifteen five and six says he took him outside,
and he said, look up at the sky and count
the stars. If indeed you can count them, then he
said to him, so shall your offspring be Apram believed

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the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
Twelve eleven in the NIV says they triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb and the word of
their testimony. They did not love their lives so much
that as to shrink from death. Luke one eight says,
I am the Lord's servant. Mary answered, may your word

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to me be fulfilled? And Matthew fourteen twenty nine finally come,
he said. Then Peter got out of the boat, walked
on the water, and came toward Jesus.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I really love this these scriptures is the reason I
really love these scriptures. What has God spoke to you
about something that he wants you to do and he's
kind of put it in your heart, But the first
thing you do is explain to God all the reasons
why you can't do it. So I remember, I know,
I know if you're listening to this by radio. I

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want to tell you a story. I remember when the
Lord spoke to my heart and said, I want you
to have a radio program. I said, what he said,
I want you to have a radio program? I said,
but what kind? And who and where? And who would
even put me on the radio. So I began to
work with my producer to come up with a microphone system,
to come up with the way we could produce and

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all this kind of stuff. And they even made up
a demo copy of what I could do. And I'm
not going to tell you what radio station it was.
I went to this big Christian radio station with my
great idea and guess what, Stephanie, what I got shot down? Bam, no, no,
they said, no, Pastor, you're a great guy, but no

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one knows you. You're a great guy, but you don't
bring in enough ratings. You know, no, no, we can't.
We can't take a chance on putting you on the radio.
And I'm like, oh my goodness. But you know what,
that didn't stop me because I had to promise. God said,
I don't want to put you on the radio. Abraham
had a promise. He said, look at the skies, Abraham,

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how many stars that's to be your descendants? And Abram
Abraham could have said, well, how's that going to be.
I don't even have a kid. How am I going
to have that many descendants? But he believed God, and
now we are the descendants because we are by faith,
descendants of Abraham, because we put our faith because he
was the father of faith. And so I went on

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a search. I went on a hunt. You know what.
You know what I I said to the one radio station.
I said, I brought up a guy that was kind
of my mentor, Bill Pierce tonight sounds a great guy
still on late night radio, like one hundred and one stations.
And I said, you know, you know, I said, Bill Pierce,
he's amazing. But the guy goes, yeah, but everybody knows

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Bill Pierce. But they don't know you, And I said, well,
before you're big guy, don't you got to be a
little guy. And he said to me, all right, Pastorguale,
I know where you're going with that. So eventually, eventually
what happened would radio put me on the air, still
been on four season one oh one point seven rock

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and Miskeigan, Thank you Lord. And I don't know if
there's other radio stations that will come down the road
that will have a samba. And then it led to
a podcast channel. And now all of this has led
to impacting thousands that we're going into our fifth season.
I'm like, wow, what has God done? But I could

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have given up think of this. If I'd have said, okay,
there's no way I can do this. If I had
to give up with the first know I would have,
I would have been stopped from impacting thousands of people
with the presence of God. If you like these programs,
you say, Pastor Gail, I'm sure glad you aren't stopped.
I'm glad for your words that come out at one
am in the morning. You and Stephanie email me. My

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email is share at Healing Begins radio dot com. Share
at Healing Begins radio dot Com. We'd love to hear
from you. So I like, I like simple Abraham.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'd love to share versus Romans four where he says
against all hope, just like Pastor Gail's saying, Abraham and
Hope believed, and so then he became the father of
many nations, just as it had been said to him,
so shall your offspring be? So without weakening in his faith,
he faced the facts, just like Pastor Gail, face the facts. Well,
I don't have a name, but let me tell you something.

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Everybody's got to start somewhere with a little guy, right. So,
without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that
his body was as good as dead since he was
about one hundred years old. Come on, if God can
do that, he can do whatever you need him to
do too, and that Sarah's womb was also dead. Yet
he did not waiver through un belief regarding the promise

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of God. But he was strengthened in his faith, and
he gave glory to God. So whatever your circumstances is
right now, whatever your situation, where you're going, Just like
Pastor Gail. Wow, they're saying I don't have a name,
They're saying, you know, I'm a small guy and nobody
knows me without weakening in your faith. Just give glory
to God.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
God.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I glorify your name. I thank you that you're good.
I thank you that you told me to do this.
And I asked the you would open the doors that
no man can shut, and you would shut the doors
that no man can open. And you just keep moving
forward and taking that next step of faith. And just
what he did for Abraham and just what he did
for Sarah, and just what he did for Pastor Gale,
He'll do it for you too.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know, I'm thinking of another really cool story. When
we started Spiritual Care in two thousand and seven, we
started from nothing. There was no radio stations we were on.
There was no podcast chanel, there was no materials, there
was none of that. And I remember in our visiting
of Spiritual Care, God said, we want God said to us,
I'm going to give you a healing center. Yeah, you know,

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we looked at doing healing centers. That was like millions
of dollars and all this stuff. So finally one day
I went down in the basement of Family Tree Medical
because we're housing Family Tree, and I put these big
white papers on the board. You ever see these big
vision papers. And I wrote on there. I wrote on
there healing center, and I wrote below it, I can't

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see it. Why faith is a faith is now. Faith
is a substance of things not seen but yet hopefully now.
Spiritual care is not faith. It is because it exists.
But there was a time when spiritual care did not exist.
We were just beginning that we were calling things that
were not as though they are. And so so what

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we did is I simply believe God.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I drew my I drew my little picture of a
healing center, and I put can't see it yet. And
then and I did our endowment. I did other things.
I did the counties we wanted to do impact and
how many countries were impacting you know during that time,
all those things were fulfilled. By the end of twenty twenty,

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we were in our healing center. It's here, we're broadcasting,
we're doing all this stuff. We have all this material
now I've been developed over the years, and all the
things that we're calling into being that weren't back then
are now because faith is. And so now in my
comfortable where faith has me or do I want to

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go to the next level. I want to go to
the next level. I don't know what that is. So
I received a call from Faith Radio. They have me
on their program every quarter as a guest speaker. Then
I got a call from Northwest Media. They wanted one
of my angel stories for Christmas. They're going to play
it over Christmas. And so it's just been it's been multiplying,

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and then there's a publishing of sixth books, soon to
be a seventh book. Then I got an award recently.
Two of my books are finalists in the Kingdom Book Awards,
and so as God Moments and Jesus in the Mountains.
And now we're like at a synergy point where all
of this stuff is happening around us and people say,
how did you get there? Well, it started with an idea.

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That's right, now, let me tell you a story. I
gotta tell the story. Can I tell a story? You
know that? Tell me.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You're talking. Let me quote this verse so people knows
where it's at. Is that okay? So when you're quote
over to your kind of paraphrasing it, Hebrews eleven one
is what he's referring to. It says, Now, Faith is
the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things
not seen. So when he wrote those things down on
that white pearman, he said, I don't see it yet.
It doesn't matter. He hoped for them. So whatever you're

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hoping for, do what Pastor Gil did. Write it down,
hope for it, and it becomes literal evidence of the
things not seen, and you just keep taking those next steps.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I saw it through eyes of faith. That's right, because
if faith is if I can see it through eyes
of faith and I have it, it will manifest. So
I'm going to tell you a story I had. This
is a dream x actually not a story, but a dream.
I had a dream. I was walking down a river
and I was needy, and I reaced down into the

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river and I picked up a rock. I looked at it,
and I threw it down the river and it went
into the water. And I heard a boy say, you
don't know the value of what you had in your hand,
And so I kept walking and there were there was
a cardboard cutout of like a Chinese warrior in the river,
and I pulled it out and then I walked further
and the ground gave way and we were in a

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World War two compound, and doctor Carlson and I were
finding all kinds of treasure in there, and I woke up.
I said, Lord, what does this mean? He said, well,
you were in the river. You are only knee deep
in the river. It's the Holy Spirit. I went, oh,
my gosh, I only knee deep stuff me. I want
to swim. Come on over my head. I said, what's

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the rock? He said, The rocks are the ideas I
bring you, and unless you start to walk them out
by faith, you never know what they can do. And
so I'm like wow. And then the cardboard of the
warrior as the enemy that tries to keep the wealth
from you, and then the World War two scientists the

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home where we were finding treasure is God is saying
to me. He said, I want to perpetually fund your
ministry to set you up so that someday, when you
leave this planet, Vera is taking the helm and carrying
it where you couldn't carry it. That's what I want
to do, So I said to the Lord. And back then,

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by the way, let me tell you what the idea was. Right,
we were moving into this healing center and I was
thinking about buying this building, and I did. I did
a family foundation tour, and finally we decided, after a
lot of interviews that we weren't going to buy it.

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We're going to lease it. But I needed to build
my endowment fund at least five hundred thousand so that
it would kick off enough money to pay for the rent.
So you don't get you don't get a chance to
touch the endowment. You live off four percent of it.
Now I'm going to I'm going to tell you the
miracle that came out of it. While I was packing
jars in my garage ready to move, the Lord said,

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I want you to buy that building where a rehab
used to be. And I go, what? And so that
was a rock that God brought to me. So I
went and I talked to doctor Carlson. But I wound
up through that doing a five family foundation tour, and
to make a long story short, within two weeks, because
of a matching fund, our ingrooment, our endowment grew from

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fifty five thousand to four hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars.
That's a miracle. And now since twenty twenty, we're at
two and a half million, which means we're gonna be
at around two and a half, which means every year
that endowment gives off one hundred thousand a year every year.
What's nice about that is someday that's what vera will get.
Whoever's leading this place next will receive that perpetual income

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way after I'm gone. And I know that it's crazy.
And I don't sit there thinking we don't need donations,
because we do for the general Fund. And so, but God,
here's what God said to me. If you'd have never
picked up that rock, if you'd have never investigated that idea,
you would not know what you missed. I want you
to think about that. You would not know what you missed.

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You would not know the miracle that you've experienced because
of that. And so now when God brings me what
I call crazy out of the box ideas, instead of
rejecting them right away, I kind of begin walking them
out by faith. I'm walking one out by faith right now.
I'm not going to talk about it, but I'm walking
out another crazy idea because God, God, you know God

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operates in the crazy zone. Well, I call it crazy.
So what I mean is this, I'm going to be
interviewing a pastor Roxanne Mastry this afternoon for South Africa.
She wrote a book who told you? And I love
her attitude because who told you you couldn't do that?

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Who told you you were worthless? See? So the first
thing the enemy does, I like Mary. The angel Gabriel
comes to Mary and says, oh, by the way, you're
going to be pregnant, and the child that you're going
to carry is going to be the Christ Child, the
savior of the world. And Mary says, so be it, Lord,
so be it as you have said to me. So
think about it. What are the ideas that God has

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given you? You know, your future has not been written.
Your past failures do not define you. Today is a
new day to try something new, to launch out in
a new area. And so Spiritual Care now has been
around around nineteen years. Can you believe it. I'm now

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sixty five years old. I used to be forty five
when we started this place. And now this center is
touching people in eighty one nations and has impacted thousands
and thousands of lives. And it'll be interesting someday when
we get to heaven and look back and say, what
were the ripples, what was the effect all guess what.

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Spiritual care was a simple idea that came up in
a Bible study at a hospital where doctor Troy Carlson
and I was speaking and God gave us an idea.
But that idea was spoke to me seven years prior
by a little grandma in a prayer room and ver Sales, Indiana.

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I picked up her word. I said, I believe it,
but I can't see it. But in two thousand and
seven it came to pass and here we are today.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Think about that, Yeah, for nothing will be impossible with God.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's almost overwhelming. When I look at every trying to
accomplish everything we've done, it would be how do we
do it? It would costs a lot of money. But
it happens little by little, step by step. There's and unfolding.
So there's one thing you're going to need when you
carry out guide ideas. You know what they are, Stephanie, Patience, prayer,
and perseverance. Why, because you're going to have times you

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feel like giving up. So what do you think, Stephanie
about all this?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, I totally agree with you.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Pastor Gil.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's one day at a time, and sometimes you know,
it can feel a little overwhelming if you're completely focused
on the angle instead of just the next step. But
if you do the daily living, you pick up your
cross daily, you follow Jesus, you pray, you trust, you
do the work. Like he said, take the time to research,
take the time to investigate. As you're doing those things,

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doors will open, favor will come, and divine meetings will occur,
and you just keep walking through the next door and
the next door in the next door, and just like
Pastor Gal some ten twenty years later, you're going to
turn around and go, Wow, I didn't even know this
was the path or this was possible, And you'll be
able to give God praise just like he is today.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
There's another guy in the Bible that God gave a
crazy idea to. His name was Noah. God says the Noah,
I want you to build an arc. He wasn't building
a canoe. You all know how big of the arc was.
It was huge, and like he hadn't even seen rain
up to that point. So he's out there building that arc.

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I bet he got mocked a lot because it's I
think he had spent one hundred years building the arc
before five was it seventy? It was a long time.
He really had to persevere. I can imagine.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Building something to prepare for something no one had ever seen.
So they thought he was crazy vill right, But so
many times the ideas God gives us is to bring
something to birth, something new that he wants to do
in the earth. I am doing a new thing. Can
you not perceive it?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I love it? I bet he heard so. Noah, or
are you going to float it?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Are you going to get it the water? Noah? Where
are you going to put that thing? Noah? But you
know what he I think he was also preaching during
his time and warning them, but no one would listen
to him when when he told them the flood was
coming in the very thing he was creating would be
an arc that could house them and you know, spiritual care.
When God spoke this to us, would become an arc,

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a safety for people that need to know Jesus and
need healing. And that's what it has served over the years.
So we praise God for that, and now that we
give God all the glory because we couldn't do this
on our own. There is no way. There's no way.
So maybe Stephanie, you want to pray for people that

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have a God ideas that they want to walk out.
But maybe they don't feel like the can, or maybe
they don't feel like to qualify too. But if God
gave you an idea, I want you to believe God
for it. I want you to believe. Just say I believe.
I believe. Just say it in your car or in
your house where we are, I believe I can do

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all things to Christ, who gives me strengthen ahead.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, And you need to know God qualifies the call,
and he calls the unqualified. So it's Christ in you
that is the hope of glory. So Father, I just
lift everyone up right now who is in the place
where they can hear my voice, that there's spiritual eyes
and ears and mind and heart will be open. That
You're angels of favor would be loose. Your angels of

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revelation and knowledge and wisdom and understanding, and the fear
of the Lord would be loose to them to prepare
them to fulfill the fullness of what you have destined
them to do. I asked that their books of destiny
would be open now in the libraries of heaven. Then
all the ideas that you want them to walk out
in this hour, in this season, that thing they're holding
on to and they're going, God, I see it, I

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hear you, but I don't know how I'm going to
do it. That those they would be given the might
and the courage and the grace and the relationships and
the wisdom and the understanding, the knowledge and the revelation
that they need to be able to take that next
step of faith and Father. In fact, I'm asking for
an impartation of supernatural faith. Faith is a gift. There's

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a gift of faith. I ask that you would grant
them a gift of faith to be able to hope
for those things unseen, knowing that they know that they
know you are going to bring it to pass for them,
just like you did for me, just like you. Differ
pasts are galling for all the four fathers and four
mothers written in scripture that have gone before us. In

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Jesus name, we praise you for it. We thank you
for it. We asked that they would email us and
tell us about it when you've done it, so that
we can celebrate with them too, in Jesus' name.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Amen, you know what I was hearing, Stephanie. I was
hearing a guy, say, how do I know that what
I have was a God idea? If God is telling
you to do something for him and his kingdom, to
help people, to bring healing and all that, I'll guarantee
if Satan's not asking you to do that? Yeah, just
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, does it produce life? Does it help people? Does
it solve a problem?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right? Does it?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's good to get truth. It's good to get wisdom
from counsel, but be careful who you get the council from,
because people can throw a wet blanket over what you
want to do really quick, or look at you like
a right, who's going to do that for you? You know?
But if God before me, who can be against me?
And I know that if God is asking me to

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do something, I know enough now to walk it out.
Start walking it out. I don't look at how much
money I'm in my wallet. I probably almost trade my
wallet for Stephanie's right now, I'd be a lot richer.
But anyways, just start walking and write down your vision,
like Hobecke says, make it plain so someone can run

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with it. It's begin to walk it out. Begin to
walk it out. Do little things to walk it out.
Try the doors slowly, try different doors, and don't be encouraged.
If one door doesn't open right away, it might open later.
So let me pray it in the name of Jesus Christ. Lord,
you're the one that gives ideas in these last days,

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you want to give people with the inventions, you want
to do things for people. You want to fund the kingdom.
I pray for those that have those God ideas that
they haven't picked up yet. So Lord, let them pick
it up by faith today and pray that you would
empower them on the way in Jesus' name. Amen. Well,
we'd love to hear from you. My email is share

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at Healing Begins radio dot com. That share at Healing
Begins radio dot com. May the Lord bless you and
keep you, CAUs his face to shine upon.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
You and be gracious to you, give you peace and
lift up your countenance.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
And may you pick up that God idea through the
eyes of faith. Call the things that are not as
though they already were until they manifest in the physical.
From Gail and Stephanie, you have a good morning.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
It was great being with you today.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Bye.

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