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Speaker 1 (00:14):
I want to welcome youute to Healing Begins. My name
is Pastor Gale, and I have Stephanie with me. Say hi, Stephanie, Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Pastor Gail. Hi, everybody, hope you're doing great today.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
But I used to listen to Bill Pierce. Remember me
talking about Bill?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh, yeah, I was here.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
He had a program called Night Sounds, and he used
to be on five nights a week in the middle
at like one am in the morning. And I remember
when I first ran across them, I thought, who is
this strange guy talking in the middle of the night.
You know, probably some are thinking about me that way, right,
Who is this strange guy on at one in the
morning talking? You know who's on usually at one am?

(00:50):
It's it's not a pastor. It's usually Red Eye Radio
or something like that. Well, we're not Red Eye Radio,
although I've heard them a few times when I've been
on the road at the wee hours of the morning.
But I really love the weekend because I believe a
lot of you that are listening are from all different
walks of life, and I don't know, I think many
of you have a lot of different things that are

(01:12):
going on in your life, and we really our goal,
and this is really to make what we're doing really
make it applicable to you, and like we're coming right
through your radio right now. We have an audience of one,
and that is whoever's listening to us right now. You're
our only audience. So we're really glad that you have

(01:35):
chose to join us, and we like to hear from you.
My email is share at Healing Beegins radio dot com.
Share at Healing Begins Radio dot com. Tell us how
you like the programs. So, Hey, I heard you were
in Uganda recently.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was, Yeah, we had a fantastic trip. Was very
warm there, so I'm hoping to bring some of that
weather back this way. You're welcome, We've been freezing over
here in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The world were you doing in Uganda? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Great question. So we have two primary partners over there.
I work with His Royal Highness Jeffrey Wayabire of the
Buguari Kingdom, and we were presenting a documentary one of
our team members had put together to get the approval
of the chiefs and the villagers to make sure it
was okay to show it kind of worldwide and share
that out. So we shared it with over two hundred

(02:23):
villagers and maybe ten to fifteen local chiefs of the tribe,
and they, of course gave a resounding yes. We fed
them and had a beautiful party in celebration in the village.
That was wonderful with King Jeffrey and Queen Mother Sarahwayabire.
We did a couple of radio shows shared the gospel
over there, of course, and then I worked with my
primary partner Stephen Weisswan Doreen Weisswa. They have two hundred

(02:45):
and ten widows and orphans, orphans with widows that help
up in a ballei and then we have about seventy
orphans down in Kampala area. So we did six conferences,
launch er administrative buildings, bought some land for a new
primary school and a church, and then debated Muslims for

(03:06):
three days.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Wow, that sounds like that would have been very intriate.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Was the last. We had so much fun. I made
so many new friends. I absolutely loved it. Yeah, lots
of people came to christ.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
So you're in Uganda and I was on top of
a mountain in Honduras.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, like what happened? I saw some of your videos.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, it was the first time we were under a
tsunami warning. How about that. Wow. We had went to
Honduras to a place called Cavradras. Cavadras is on top
of a mountain like six thousand feet up, so they
don't get any visitors, especially any gringo visitors six thousand
feet up.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So you're a superstar.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, I'm going to say a rock star, but I'll
explaining the rocks later. Get it that. It'll become clear
in a minute. But we had flown into Honduras. I
have a team on the ground there of ten people.
They picked us up at the airport. We flew into
Rotan and took a little puddle jumper over the mountain.

(04:09):
The pilot was so close to me I could tap
him on the shoulder. I could see the runway coming up,
the runway taking off. It's kind of fun ying y
yan ying. You know you're bouncing around in that little plane.
Especially in all the time where there's been plane accidents.
You know, people are afraid to fly. So we landed
under us. The first thing we do is connect with
the team and we began to train for the pastors conference. Now,

(04:33):
in the pastors conference, I'm not the one that does
all the teaching. The team there does all the teaching,
and I just share a little bit. We brought two
hundred Bibles. We brought my new book, The Hearty Healing
with Me in Spanish. And so the theme I had
for the conference was open up the gate. It was

(04:54):
on Bethel, and I had asked all the pastors coming
to the Pastors Conference to bring a rock with them
the size of a soccer ball. Now, I don't know
if you've ever held a rock a size of a
soccer ball.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm assuming that's pretty heavy.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
They're very heavy. So they were to bring a rock
a size of a soccer ball, and they were to
bring a smaller rock to hold in their hand. So
two years ago we had one hundred and fifty one
leaders on top of the mountain, and I didn't honestly
know this year how many we had, And so when
we arrived the place was packed nice. We had over

(05:33):
two hundred and fifty leaders, nice, and there were fourteen
churches and they all brought their big rock and placed
it by the altar, and I remember talking. We were
speaking on Jacob and Bethel and Genesis twenty eight. For
those of you that read your Bible. You ought to
look at the Genesis twenty eight. You ought to look

(05:54):
into that yourself. You got to look these things up
and read these things. And so we get on top
of the mountain and I had a little interpreter with
me called Melanie Sokira. And Melody is from the Spanish
Church of Pontiac. Now that's a pretty big deal because
this is our top translator. She's twenty one years old.
I thought she was a little older, but she's only

(06:15):
twenty one. Her mom was calling her twice a day
because her mom is concerned. She's in Hondura, she's with
a green she's with the Green Goo team and in
the mountains. And so it took three hours to get
up the mountain. That is three hours of rock and
drove and driving, rolling the van going what that is

(06:37):
it's the van bottom heading the rocks, pulling through the bottole.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, we went through that minute.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
So then we had seven We had to go through
seven creeks, some of them did not have bridges. I
remember driving through the water with the van and we
finally get to the top and so Melanie says to me, well,
while we're on the mountain, she said, why don't. Why
don't I do a teaching on building an altern We'll

(07:04):
build an altar. And I said, well, seeing that we
built an altar, why don't we be like Eligen call
fire down from heaven on the enemy while we're at it.
She goes, no problem, let's do that. So these pastors
have not a clue why they brought their big rock
to the meeting. But what I liked about it the
scripture that I chose was a scripture that all the

(07:27):
churches were founded on, and I didn't know that. So
in the church, this is none other than the Gate
of Heaven, Casa de Dios, the House of God. That's
what they're called. Each church is the Casadadios, part of
the church network. And so I said, okay, we're gonna
anoint the rocks with the oil. So all the pastors

(07:49):
brought their oil and anointed the rocks up front. I've
never done the annoying of the rock ceremony. The little
rock was for the worship leader to get up and
pray and open up the gate or to take down
the life or open up the gate through praise. Because God,
what he was really saying to me, the Lord wanted

(08:12):
an outpouring of glory and the churches where even the
latter coming down from Heaven could be seen. So while
we were in the mountain, you know the mountains, the
high place, right, Yes, while we're in the High Place,
it took time to speak to the witches. I said, listen, witches,
I know you can hear me. This mountain no longer
belongs to you. It belongs to these pastors. We tell

(08:34):
you you cannot be on the mountain. And then the
pastors are all cheering, But I said, we also send
you a word of salvation that the Lord wants you.
The Lord wants you to be safe. So we get
on top of there. This is a third time something
like this has happened to me, so maybe I should
be more careful. But so we annoy the rocks. We

(08:57):
melody teaches on the altar, and then I did a
prayer of calling fire down from heaven. And during that
time in the Caribbean next to us, there was a
seven six earthquake. And now I'm getting texts pastor, do
you know you're under a tsunami warning? You're under a
tsunami warning. And I'm like, I didn't realize that until

(09:19):
we got off the mountain that we were under a
tsunami warning, but there was. The tsunami didn't happen, no
one got hurt, but it definitely was a shaking up
of the atmosphere of the enemy's camp. Because there was
a time when, forget where I was, I think it
was Francis Franchipane's church. They were doing a skit on

(09:45):
the seven Churches and they were all carrying lanners the
seven churches of an Asia Minor. During the skit, there
was an earthquake an Asia Minor. And another time I
was in Costa Rica, I think five years ago, and
the Lord said I'm going to send an earthquake, and
I'm going to He said, I'm going to send an

(10:05):
earthquake to the enemy's camp. So I'm on the front
porch of the mission house telling Pastor Dans from California
that God told me He's gonna send an earthquake. No,
I didn't think literal, you know. And ten minutes later,
the ground is making a noise, it's rolling, the gate

(10:26):
is rattling, and we're under another seven point six earthquake.
He yells, earthquake. Get off the porch, and I'm like
I can't get out of the rock and chair. Let
don't get off the porch. And then I went down
the next weekend to Pavas and preached on God opening
prison doors and setting the captive trees. So this was

(10:49):
earthquake number three I've been in that I've been involved with.
So I don't know. Maybe they caught me in Hunterath
man of fire. I hope they don't start saying man
of earthquake.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
But you're opening those prison doors. You've got that Apostolic evangelistnointing.
You're opening those doors and saying come out for something,
not just deal with the witchcraft, but then to say
I send you a word of salvation. That's the heart
of an evangelist. That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, you know God's heart is those witches.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's right.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
See they're caught in the counterfeit. Hey, if you're a witch,
you're listening to this on wo radio, You're welcome. I'm
glad you're on the progress because you don't realize that
you're dealing with the counterfeit. Witchcraft is a counterfeit. It
is the real is the power of the Apostolic psychics,
our counterfeit, false prophets, the real at the prophets of God,

(11:42):
and so the pastors were so touched. So we got
up there at nine in the morning and it was
three in the afternoon, and we want to get off
the mountain before dark. And they're not happy. They let
me know they don't want us to go. So I
promise next in March twenty twenty six, when we come,

(12:07):
we're going to preach all day, preach all night to
the wee hours of the morning, and go home. Go
home the next day and they will come. I imagine if
we had two fifty, we might have five hundred. The
next time. They will come and camp out on the
mountain with us, and they will stay all day and
all night to hear God's word. I said, I said, apossible. Wolford,

(12:31):
how many guys grengos come and do that? He goes, None,
he goes. He was the only one that stayed all
night before on the mountain. So he said, there's houses
back on the mountain that we can stay in. They'll
put us up with their homes, but I figure we'll
probably preach all day. Now, I got a team of ten,
so I'm not the only one preaching. Yeah, I got
ten preachers.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
You can feel two three days, you can fill two three.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Days some food and up of preaching goes more than
an hour, and they're like, let's do it all day,
Let's preach all night, Let's hear about God's word and
prayer and yeah, you know, yeah. If this had a title,
i'd call it Open the Gate of Heaven. But I

(13:17):
believe there's coming a day. You know, when we read
the Book of Acts and it said that they prayed right,
and then after they got done praying, the place was shaken,
in which they.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Were in accord.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
But the whole place was shaken. It was I didn't
feel the seven point six earthquake, but I consider that
as shaking. I'm glad it didn't release a landslide. We'd
not be off the mountain yet, we'd be stuck up there.
I don't know if you've ever gone up those mountains.
You go around the corner and it's straight down on
the left hand side. The guard rail is a one

(13:56):
strand of barbed wire and then the mountains right there.
So if there's an earthquake, you're stuck. You're stuck on
that mountain. You can't get down less my helicopter maybe
I don't know how you get down, but take a
while to get you off the mountain. They probably like
that because now they've got church going on forever, rightly,
forever church, the church service that never ends. You all

(14:17):
think hour is long and two hours long, the should
be one in one that goes all day and all night.
But I'm gonna tell you it's fun.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's a blast, and the presence is so I think
you don't even know that you're there that long. All
of a sudden you're like, what, it's four in the morning.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Get started. I started, Well, when you get down off
the mountain, you realize it because you want to go
to bed, sleep. You eat a good meal and go
to bed for a while, and get up and do
it all over again.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
But that's true.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was so great. You know the part of Jacob
and what he said, Now when I travel up in
the mountains, I have one hundred dollars bills in my pocket.
Right So at the end Jacob said, he said it,
if you bless me, take care of me when I
come back, Your God will be my god. And he goes,
and now I'll give you a tenth of everything. So

(15:07):
I had one hundred dollars bill in my pocket. So
I said to the had apostle that represents that region,
I'm going to sew a tenth into your ministry. And
I gave him one hundred dollars to them, that's twenty
four hundred of their dollars. And so then when I
got home, the Lord took me to Genesis thirty five. Okay,

(15:31):
and this this is key, This is key for all
of us. Where God says to Jacob, now I want
you to go back to Bethel, and I want you
to settle there. And I went, oh, my goodness, why
didn't you show me that before I went to Honduras.

(15:51):
Because what the Lord is saying is, I want you
to go back to your Bethel. I want you to
live in that place of continual revelation and where the
gate of having us open twenty four seven. You know,
I want you to live there. I want you to.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's a way of life. It's a way of life.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Living in revelation, living with a ladder down. Think about that.
Can you imagine that where the ladder is down in
your house, angels are ascending and.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
De that's right. We always say keep your head on
a swivel. We say, keep your head on a swivel.
War in a war here He has overcome this world.
But keep your head on a swivel and always be
attentive and listening, practicing the presence of God. As Andrew
Maury would.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Say, well, you know, it's sad glory of God that
dispels the enemy. It's the glory of God that the
enemy can't stand. The Bible says that God dwells an
unapproachable light, right, and so man, these pastors, they they
took all the rocks home. I don't know how they
did it.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I thought you were going to say they made a
built a memorial and left it there.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
No. I was surprised they took the rock back of
their church because they're gonna have Bethel in their church.
God love them. Because some of them walked, some of
them rode. How do you take a rock that big
on a motorbile? Well, they figured out they'll get it home.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay, funny story, just totally random off the thing.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's why I was a rock star. Okay, I got star.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I once saw when we were in Kambala, an actual
full sized cow on the back of a Mobeda kid
you not. They had plywood with the cow sitting on
top of it, bungee corded on and the guy was driving.
I thought I would have never thought of that solution.
But their genius.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
It was alive kids, you not. I thought, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I love my life.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah. Well, at one time in Honduras I saw a
family of six on one moped. Yeah. Now that's bad
ingenuity though. Yeah, but if they get in an accident.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, but what are you gonna do if you only
got one only got one mop? And God's grace is sufficient.
We're talking about open heavens. I mean, just see the
angels holding them all and holding them together. God can
work miracles. Surely he can protect that family.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
And then what we did on top of the mountain,
because the way those pastors work, if I did prayer,
I'd have to pray for all the guys and the whip.
So we did a fire tunnel. So we did. You
might say, well, what's that. That's how you make the
leaders make a line and they walk in between you
and you pray for them as they go by. So

(18:45):
we had and by the way, all two hundred and
fifty people went through the tunnel, so that'll tell you
how much praying we would have had it done. If
we dealt with that one on one, we would have
never got done with that. So I left, going, God,
we're gonna come back to them. We'll come back. I said,
tell them we're gonna stay all night the next time,

(19:07):
and they were so there were so many that showed up.
I didn't have enough material. So we had twenty more
manuals printed, and I'm shipping twenty more Heart of Healing books.
By the way, if you don't have that, it's on
Amazon dot com. The Heart of Healing put in my
name Gail G. A. L. E. Crock KRGT because we

(19:30):
have it in Spanish. So we're sending twenty books for
the twenty churches. I love it, but I know we
could get what you say. What happens when you have
five hundred people on a mountain. You have to feed.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Them, Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
So they have their way of cooking. I provided the money.
They had all the food there, and they had their
systems set up. But the church was full. There were
people out on the grass, there were people in the
room next to us. Everywhere you could get there was people.
There were just people all over and it even began raining,
and they had they put a tarp somehow over the

(20:07):
back with benches. That rain wasn't going to stop them.
They were going to leave. But it was so good
in the praise and the worship. And I remember the
the pastors are very, very picky. So I did something fun.
I stepped on their theology for a second. Because the
senior pastor, he's sitting right on my left, he is

(20:28):
listening to everything I say. So I got up and
I was talking. I said, I want you to know
God is limited. And I paused and I saw him
kind of go, what did you say? I said, Now,
I know I just stept on your theology. But what
I mean is we limit God by our own choices.
And so you know, as we end off the program today,

(20:50):
why don't you pray a word of encouragement for the
people that are listening.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, so, father, I just ask for those that are
listening that you would fill their car or their house,
or their room or wherever they are with your presence,
that your presence would be tangible and felt in whatever
way they need it. I asked that you would remind
them of the circumstances that they're facing, and you would
show them now, begin to encourage them now in regards

(21:16):
to ways that you plan to move on their behalf.
I ask for mercy, I ask for comfort, I ask
for love, and ask for healing. We just blessed them
and asked that you would bring them into the fullness
of all the good things that you have for them,
and that this will be the beginning of the best
days of their life. In Jesus' name. Amen.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Amen, Now I watched it to know that we have
resources available. Stephanie, what are your books called?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
The titles Yeah so Magnanimous Love by Stephanie Butler and
rest Is War by Stephanie Butler. So one's about uniting
the city of Leaders Christian leaders and how to fulfill
your destiny and the other ones about how to get
through a really dark day.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
And how do they get your books?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
They can go to Amazon dot com.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Wow us the same thing as you.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah. So.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
The books I have out are the Unexpected Call about
my trip to nine to eleven that has fifty pictures
in the middle of it. And by the way, all
my books are on audiobook too, and the Unexpected Call
is the only one that's not in Spanish. Then I
have God Moments in Spanish that has done really well
Spanish English Audible book. Then I have Jesus in the

(22:25):
Montagnees or Jesus in the Mountains, and that's all about
our missions work and that's on Amazon. Then I have
the Heart of Healing because God's heart is to heal you.
That's on Amazon dot Com and that's in Spanish. And
breaking news. Guess what. My fifth book is being edited
and will be out this year. And I'm going to

(22:47):
give you a little bit of a it's going to be.
It's going to be about volume two of God Moments. Well,
we're winding up. It's time to close the show. But
remember God's presence always goes with you. May the Lord
bless you, made the Lord keep you. May the Lord

(23:10):
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