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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I want to welcome you to Healing Begins. My name
is Pastor Gail Krock and I have.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is Stephanie Butler. We're so glad you're here with
us today.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
So I wondered what you guys are doing this early
in the morning. Got good news we're going to bring
the Healing Against program into the fifth year. Can you
believe in all of you that listening out there by
radio land and later by podcast today? I thought we
would do a show all about up from the Grave.
I remember Easter time. I don't know what you did, Stephanie,

(00:36):
but the first thing that would happen on Easter we
would be out in the cow pasture at six am
in the morning. I said it right the cow pasture.
Or we climbed on top of fire Tower Hill. Okay,
now that was that.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's over by Aleigant. It's way way out in the air.
And my brother would.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Bring his trumpet and the preacher would be there and
we would sing songs like up from the Grave he
arose and Christ the Lord has risen today in that trumpet,
which just you could hear it all over.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know. My brother is really good on a trumpet.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
And then after the sunrise service, we all went to
the church for a big breakfast and after that we'd have.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
The morning service. Now that went on for years.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
That's tradition.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, and now they've kind of done away with all that.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Maybe people don't want to get up and be out
in the cow pastor at six am. Yes, I said that, right,
the cow pastor. We were out where the cows were
and they must have.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Been holy cows. I guess it's a bad job.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
But anyways, to me, Easter which is not about Easter bunny,
Easter rabbits or Easter eggs, because I know a lot
of people get hung up with the name Easter, but
we used to always call.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
The day resurrection Sunday Resurrection, not.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
About some Celtic Christmas tree. Sorry I mentioned the Christmas tree.
It's not about the Christmas tree, but about the roots
of where Eastern because people get hung out, Yeah, people
get hung up where the roots of Easter come from.
But more about celebrating Jesus's resurrection. What was your early

(02:24):
days like celebrating Easter.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, when we were young, I mean frankly, it was pagan.
We did the eggs and we did the chocolate bunnies,
and you know, we once in a while go to Mass,
you know, but not real consistently as a kid, but
we were excited. We still understood that it was about Jesus,
you know, so I planted some seeds for later in
life when I did except christis my Lord and Savior.
And then when our children were little, we would go

(02:47):
to service, of course at a local church, and I
loved it because I remember one year in particular, they
taught about that phraseology he has risen, and how the
early christ STIs would say he has risen and it
would be a sign to he's risen. Indeed, that would
be the response if you were saved, if you knew

(03:07):
the Lord, if you made him lord of your life,
that would be a response. And it was kind of
a code in the city to say yes, I am
saved too. Yeah, So I loved that. And then of
course we would do a big dinner. We'd have all
the family together. Everybody would laugh. It'd be a great
time to catch up and just love on one another.
You know, you don't get to do that very often,
but the holidays are fantastic time to get family together
and do those kind of emotional and spiritual check ins.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I hate to say this, but my mom always had
baskets for us full of chocolate. Now, I grew up
loving Cadbury eggs.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I hate to say this.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I love Carmelo bars, Cadbury eggs, all those Robin eggs.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, so now, and that's just enjoyment.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
But anyways, Easter to me was always such a great
time to celebrate because let's talk about why the resurrection
is so important.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
All the other religious leaders that ever lived are dead
and in the grave. But Jesus said, destroy this temple
in three days, I'll rebuild it. In fact, you know,
he told his disciples, he said, look, I'm going to die,
but on the third day, I'm going to come back
to life. But I don't think they heard a word

(04:21):
he was saying. Because if they would have really heard
what Jesus was saying, they wouldn't have been panicking at
the cross. They wouldn't have been panicking at his death
because he said he's coming back. He said he's going
to rise from the dead. And why Stephanie talked to
us about why the resurrection is.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So important, Well, the resurrection is important because he died
and was raised again to life, and he was the
first born among many brethren. Okay, we are the brethren,
those of us that accept Jesus Christ as our learn
and savior. He had to conquer the grave, He had
to die in the cross pay for the sin. He
went down into the grave and took back the keys
of the kingdom, all the authority that we had given

(04:58):
through Adam and even all all the generations over to
the enemy of our lives, and made Satan really the
rule of this world. He took back our spiritual authority,
it says. And then he was raised again on the
third day. Now we know he spent some time talking
with the disciples and meeting with people, but eventually he
returned to the Father, and it says in Ephesians he
was seated at the right hand of God in the
heavenly place, is where we all also seated with him.

(05:21):
And that, frankly, is our greatest gift to receive that
authority that Christ won on our behalf back, so that
the enemy of our souls is under the feet of
Jesus in us. Because at the name of Jesus, every
niche a bow, and every tongue confessed that Jesus Christ
is Lord. That is where our authority in Christ comes from.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
When I think of the Resurrection, I think of the
crucifixion first, because you know, the religious world wanted to
get rid of him. They thought, if I just kill him,
he's gone.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
The demonic world thought the same thing. If we just
killed Jesus, he's out of our hair.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
We've finished it. It's over. But little did they know
that by crucifying him, they were sealing their old fate.
And I will often wonder what it was like in
the regions of the damned when the Third Day come
and he began coming back to life in the gates,
and the hell begans shaking, and the demons, the demons
began quaking and running for cover. As the resurrection resurrected,

(06:24):
Lord walked out of the grave, and all those guards
guarding the tomb fell over like dead men. And he
rose and he defeated. Let me say that again. I
don't know if you we need to get this in
our minds. He defeated, totally annihilated death, Hell in the

(06:45):
grave forever and ever.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Amen. And I love this story.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
If you could read Luke twenty four versus fourth through
eight stuff and the.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Sure okay Luke twenty four four through eight, and this
is the envy. While they were one about this, suddenly
two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside
them in their fright. The women bowed down with their
faces to the ground. But the men said to them,
why do you look for the living among the dead.

(07:14):
He's not here. He has risen. Remember how he told
you while he was still with you in Galilee, the
son of Man must be delivered over to the hands
of sinners, be crucified, and on the third day be
raised again. Then they remembered his words.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I love that, because now everything he said beforehand came
back to their minds. They had totally not understood. You know,
when Jesus was meeting with the disciples of John fourteen
and he tells them, behold, I go to a prepare
a place to you. Before John fourteen, he talks and

(07:53):
tells them he's got to go, he's got to leave,
he's going to die. And they're all upset. They don't
get it. Why their master's going to leave, He's going
to be gone, what's going on? But he frankly told
them what was going to happen. But they were blind,
That's the only way I can put it. They were
blind to the scriptures.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
And so the.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Resurrection for you and me means a lot. Not only
did he defeat death, hell and the grave, he turned
that same victory, I like how they say it in
Spanish victoria.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
He turned it over to his disciples into the church.
So now the same victory that he won in the
same authority, like you were talking about earlier, he was given.
He is now given to his church, the body of Christ.
Without the resurrection, we might as well fold up our
bibles and go home. The resurrection is what makes Jesus different.

(08:53):
I remember talking to a man of another faith, oh,
another religion, not another faith, another religion. He said, why
do you follow Jesus? I said, well, it's actually simple.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
He rose from the dead, and the God you serve
is dead and in the great and he had never
thought of that before. So what are you doing this Easter?
What is the miracle that you're looking for? That's the
other thing I think about. Yeah, this was a miracle.
No one ever in human history had ever rose bodily

(09:25):
from the grave, especially after being crucified. That was a
pretty severe, pretty severe way of death, and that we
often will watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ at Home.
Pretty bloody movie, but it really tries to portray what

(09:45):
Christ went through on the Cross because all of that
was about you and me. When he was dying, he
was remembering you and me and what we would say,
and he had to die.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Here's why he had to die.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
He was going to take everything you and I could
ever suffer in the whole world, everybody that was to
be born, that had been born, and he carried it
on that cross, and he died for it, and he
conquered it so we could live in freedom, we could
live in health, we could live in healing.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's all available.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, amen, Amen, I was just as you were talking.
I was thinking about that verse and Matthew Chapter ten
seven and eight where he says, as referring to what
they received right, what he actually gave us go rather
than to the lost sheep of Israel. And maybe somebody's
listening to it, and you're like, well, I didn't know
all this. I didn't know he died for me. I
didn't know he laid down his life for me. That
says as you go proclaim the message. The Kingdom of

(10:45):
Heaven has come near. Heal the sick, raise the dead,
cleanse those who have leopardsy, drive out demons. For freely
you've received, freely give. And really, when you think about
the resurrection, one of the things I love most about
it is Christ in us, the hope of glory. People's
lives are changed because we were once lost sheep. We

(11:08):
recognized that Jesus laid his life down for us. We
accepted him as our lord, and Saviory paid that price
for sin. He gave us back those keys of authority,
and then we're seated in those heavenly places with him,
and we get to freely give to other people. Maybe
you're listening today and you're like, well, I want to
be saved, I want to be cleansed, I want to
be healed. I want to be delivered, and there's an
appointed time. Sometimes you'll hear the gospel earlier in life

(11:31):
and it doesn't make sense until an appointed time. And
maybe I just sense for somebody listening today, this is
your pointed time. You've heard this your whole life, but
today it's making sense. And if you don't know, Jesus
Christ is your Lord and savior. And you're like, yeah,
my sin's put him on that cross too. I certainly
haven't lived a s endless life. Literally, he laid down
his life so that you could be saved. You could

(11:53):
be cleansed. His body was broken that you could be
healed physically as blood was sportouse. You could be washed
and made white as snow. And if you in his name,
and you say, Lord, forgive me, I need a savior,
be my savior, cleanse me, heal me, deliver me, make
me yours, Grant me grace to follow you with all
my heart, so my strength. It says anyone who says
that Jesus is Lord shall be saved.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know it's just what Stephanie said. All you got
to say is Lord, I opened my heart to you.
I believe you are the son of God. I believe
you died on the cross for me, and I accept
your sacrifice and ask forgiveness for my sins. And he
said a revelation three twenty Behold, I stand at the door, knock.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
If any man here is my voice and opens the door,
he said I will come in. He didn't say maybe.
He said I will, and he'll have fellowship with you.
He'll change your life and he'll fill you with the
Holy Spirit. But you know, there's one other thing we
kind of gloss over. We say it real quick. He
defeated death hell in the grave. We just gloss over that.

(12:54):
But when Jesus died, he paid your penalty, so you
don't have to go to hell. Yes, hell is a
real place fire suffer, where the worm dieth not. And
Jesus went there, and only God in the flesh could
do this, and he took our place, and he made

(13:17):
the way for all of us to go to heaven,
all of us.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
The only thing is whosoever. But you have to accept
his gift that he paid on the cross for you.
It's a personal decision. I don't mean to go on this,
but no one ever has to go to hell because
He made the way to go to heaven. So if
people find themselves in a hell, it's because they chose

(13:44):
to go there, not because God put them there. God
made sure the way was made, so we.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Don't have to go there, Thank God. And I've heard
stories people that have had experiences in hell, how horrible
it was. I actually don't like to listen to them
too much. To kind of kind of depressing, but in
some ways it's sobering to think that if Jesus wouldn't

(14:11):
have done that, none of us are righteous enough. But
God decided to be born as a.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Baby, to live, to be rejected, to be crucified and
mocked and whipped, and to be killed.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
But on the third day, up from the grave he rose.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
That's a great song with a mighty triumph or his foes.
He arose, a victor from the dark domain, and he
lives forever with his saints terrain, and we'd say it, heroes, heroes, heroes, hallelujah.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Christ Arose. You know, I love it. I just love it.
He lives, He lives, Christ Arose. All of that stuff
is so important, and that is why as believers we
have hope. We have hope that when we have brothers
and sisters that have died in the Lord.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
We will see them again. I remember after my mom
and dad died, my brother had a dream that he
was in heaven. He walked around the path and they're
setting out a bench. Was my mom and dad looked
like they were in their thirties. They were a vibrant,
they were alive, and they were looking at my brother
and then he woke up. What a hope we have

(15:34):
because of Christ and what he did for us? And
the other thought, Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Not at this time, No, I think you covered that
was great, Pastor.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Gal Well, we still got some time left. But I
really feel like we need to pray for those that
feel like they don't have any hope I or pray
for those that have kids that have walked away from
the faith, kids that are not serving the Lord.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
This is a time of miracles. The Easter season is
a time where God wants to do miracles for families.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, I don't know anybody on earth that would
die for me. I don't know anyone on earth that
would have suffered the way he suffered. You know that
That brings me Another point is that that's why we
try not to live in sin, because He died for
that sin, and we've asked for forgiveness, and by living

(16:30):
a willful lifestyle of sin, we crucify the Son of
God all over again. We're not we're not thinking about
the price he paid. And that's the other part of
the Easter. I think about. I've had people, they all
got will understand. I can live any way I want.
They're out there living in sin, having premurital sex, doing
drugs and all this. Oh yeah, I know I'm going

(16:52):
to have it.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Fornicators and hoosexuals will not enter the kingdom. Okay, since
you wentute, I'm going to share something I was seeing
that I wasn't sure it was a good place for it.
Actually saw the face of an individual and you're listening
and he was talking about hell, and you're like, I'm
a good person. I'm going to heaven. We have all
sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and

(17:17):
the reason Jesus, the perfect, sinless son of God God
in Christ, had to die for us is because you
have missed the mark. Have you lied? Yeah? Have you
even maybe twisted the truth a little bit? Probably? Have
you been prideful? Probably? Have you lusted with your eyes?
Very likely? Have you ever been greedy and not wanted

(17:39):
to share something? Yeah, you need Jesus. You cannot get
to Heaven on your own merit. No, even if we
compare our sins to other people, our sins don't seem
so bad. But when we compare our sins to the
perfect expectation of a Holy God and living a sinless life.
We've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God,
so we cannot get too heaven. We cannot get eternal

(18:02):
life without Christ's perfect, spotless, unadulterated blood, having paid the
price on our behalf. He is the only way to salvation.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
You can't work her way to heaven, it says any
phesias by grace through faith you've been say not of works.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Let's end you mention most.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
But there's another scripture that says, our righteousness is like
filthy rags to God. So let's get rid of the
filthy rags and accept the righteousness of Christ that He
bought and paid for. Stephanie, why don't we Why don't
we pray for those that just really feel like they

(18:44):
have they don't have much hope during the Easter season,
Why don't you just do a.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Holy Ghost prayer there? Yeah, I'll finish up with a
prayer after you. In the last three or four minutes
we have Yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Saw a couple faces of a few women. Your children
run around, your spouses aren't super friendly, and you're in
a lot of pain, and you feel real lonely and
you're said, I'm going to pray for you. I can
see your face. So, Father, we just lift these women.
And if there are men out there as well, or
children or young people, we lift them up as well,
who maybe are just hurting. Where Easter is a hard time,

(19:19):
thinking about family and get togethers and things like that.
It's difficult and it's painful, and maybe they're still grieving,
maybe there's still some confusion there, maybe there's still some hurt.
I just ask Holy Spirit, that you would right now
fill their room wherever they are, their car, their yard.
Just wrap around them right now and your perfect love

(19:41):
and your presence and your peace and wash over them
and remind them of your goodness. Remind them of all
the things they have to be thankful for. Remind them
of all the good and noble things and the beautiful
things that you've done, the things that you've brought them through,
the ways that you've protected them and led them and
guide them and provided for them all the days their life,
and are here for one even today. He did praise him. Father,

(20:06):
I said, you would fill them with hope and give
them eyes to see you and the ways that you
have worked in their lives and the ways that you
are working in their lives and give them hope for
a good future and a good and expected And you
said you have plans to prosper us and not harmis
to give us hope in a future. So I said
you would fill them with hope right now, that this

(20:27):
is not the end, that this too shall pass, and
that you work all things together for good for them
that love you and are called according to your purpose.
So fill them with your love, grand them grace to
love and trust you through this difficult season in Jesus name. Amen.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, I just pray for those two that are feeling
that they don't have hope. And I'm reminded of the
scripture that says, know the plans I have for you,
declares the Lord plans to prosper you and harm me.
Not harm you do that against Scott. I'm reminded of
the scripture as I pray. Jeremiah twenty nine to eleven.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Know the plans I have for you, declares the lords.
I'll do it against God. Jeremiah twenty nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Know the plans I have for you, say, the Lord
plans to prosper you and not harm you. Plans to
give you hope in the future. And I pray that
people would know right now there is hope in Christ.
There's nothing they're facing that you have not overcome. Lord,
and I pray for them in the name of Jesus.
That's the presence of God, and the ministering angels would

(21:28):
go and provide hope and strength to those that are
really struggling this Easter season, especially if they might be
suffering from grief or the loss of a loved one.
And then I pray for those right now that are
just been believing God for physical healing in their life.
And as I'm praying, put your hand on.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
The area of your body where you've been sick or
where you've had pain. And I ask right now for
a release of healing to go into people's bodies from
the top of their heads to the bottom of their feet.
I pray that you had touch them by the power
of your name.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Take away pain, take away sickness, take away disease. Because
at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow and
every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
In Jesus' name, what you're praying, Pastor, I saw somebody's
elbow getting healed. I saw somebody's knee getting healed. I
saw somebody was a stiff hand like move it, begin
to move it. God's healing that for you. Right now,
I see somebody's left ear or right ear. I don't
know which. I can't tell if I'm looking at you,
you're looking at me. But there's been pain in it. Father,
God's healing that. Right now. I see somebody's eye. There's

(22:39):
been pain in the eye, and the Lord's healing that.
Even floaters. I see floaters being here. We thank you
for that. Father, Praise you, give you glory. Lord, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah. Well, I'd love to hear from you as we
close out here. My email is share a Healing Begins
Radio dot com. Share at Healing Begins Radio dot com.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well made. The Lord bless you and keep you. Cause
his face to shine upon you. Be merciful to you,
and give you peace. From Stephanie and Gail, God bless you.

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