1-24-26 Remodeling Show

1-24-26 Remodeling Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wi a Sam's remodeling show. This is our number two
with Abby Bender from Abby Home. I'm Paul kron Forest
and Abby. Happy New Year. I say that because it's
what January twenty fourth, it's your first show of the year.
It is.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't think I've been on since November. Beginning of November.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's the problem?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I had deer hunting, I had Christmas New Year's it took.
It's not a trip into Puntacana.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes, you had a little vacation the same time I
was on my cruise. We're just kind of talking about that,
you know, pasty Wisconsin. I going on a cruise ship
or in your case, where were you again?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Puntacana warm. It wasn't like super hot. I mean it
was beautiful weather. It rained a lot, but not enough.
I mean we still were able to lay out and stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah. I mean the problem is even with some block
you go in, like a top deck of a cruise ship,
You're getting the breeze. It keeps you cool. You go
in after two hours. I looked in a mirror. Oh
my gosh, my nose is like Rudolph.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Probably get like windburn too, huh oh.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, but you feel good because it keeps you cool.
You don't realize how much sun you're getting. So yeah,
we both got a little sun.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
When I was in my twenties, I used to lay
out and I would do this whole like pyramid thing, right,
So the first day vacation, I'd have thirty. Then i'd
go down to fifteen. Then i'd go to eight, then
I'd go to four. Now it's not worth it. I
don't need wrinkles. Just go right to fifty five and
leave it there.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, when I was a kid abby growing up in
the seventies, we had nothing. I mean, what was the
Hawaiian tropic like the oil.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh yeah, we used too. We used to put like
duct tape on our back as kids with our initials,
to have a big A on the back that. I
don't know why I thought that was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I think it's a generational thing. I was talking to
an older guy in the cruise and well, I don't
you know, I grew up and we don't need that stuff.
And boy he had. He was peeling skin off his nose.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
One thing to do in Wisconsin, Like I don't really
wear sun block up here very often. Like when I'm
up north, I never.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Wear it goes to the equator.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, if Florida when I was in when I was
in college and I went down to Florida for the
first time for spring break for softball. We were out
there on the softball and the one thing I've forgotten
that you never thought of it because you always were
in Wisconsin, is the back of your ears. You never
think to put that on. But I fried them and
after that I listen.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And they start the peel. You just don't want that.
We've learned a lot, I think over the years. Here
we are talking about sun on the coldest weekend of
the year, maybe the coldest that will get all winter.
I don't know. Abby. We're lucky enough to escape the
storm that they're saying, that snowstorm south of us, which
we did escape. Obviously, it's cold yesterday, probably the coldest

(02:34):
in at least four years. I looked it up. The
polar vortex was twenty nineteen, right before COVID hit. We
had fifty five below winchill.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't know what the air temperature was, but fifty
five below winchill is pretty bad. Yesterday we were about
forty five below at the worst. I think that's pretty bad. Abby.
We're going to address all of that today as you
talk about energy efficiency, getting the right product also red flag.
Some people might think, well, I had a little condensation
or had the blinds down and there was a little

(03:05):
frost on my window. Does that mean the windows bad.
You're going to address all of that before we start. Abby,
give us background on your company, Abbey Home.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So we have been in business since twenty ten. We
do everything on the extra of your home. So we
do everything from roofing, windows, siding, doors, gutters, spat facia,
attic insulation, so we blow out of insulation in glass
block windows, and we do bath and shower conversions as well,
so at the wet area of the bath we can
get you a new one day bath system. We tear

(03:33):
everything out so it's not an insert. Some people think
it's an insert. It's not an insert. We tear everything
down to the studs.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's a good winter project to do too, it.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Is, and we can work like next week. It's supposed
to be super cold and it's really hard to do
windows and doors and roofing and siding when it's that cold.
But we can continue on with the baths as long
as we can work in someone's garage and throw a
heater in there, we can pretty much go. Doesn't really
stop us, Yeah you do.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean you work year round regard to all the products.
There comes a time where, like yesterday today, you can't
be out there when it's twenty.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, the cock won't cure, the foam won't cure, the
the the coil. You know, everything is just cold. It's
hard to bend it. It's just it's not worth trying
to work in it. And not only that, it's not
safe for our guys to be out there. We don't
want them to be freezing or anything. I mean, letting
the dogs out right now is literally torture. My poor

(04:25):
mom had the dogs all last week being gone, and
I feel bad, not.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Just human, but for the dogs. Don't like it. Do
your dogs do what I did in the cold? Maddie
used to lift her pop.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh yeah, they're doing everything.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's so cold. They got to lift one pop, then
the other, then the other.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
And I have one that's almost sixteen, so she'll be
sixteen in about two weeks. So I have to go
out with her and have like a sling for in
case she kind of needs it gets a little wobbly.
So every time she goes out, I go out, you.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Put the winter jackets on. My daughter's got two dogs.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
They're the bougiest dogs.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Of course, Yes, you gotta put the way and it
does help them, right do to get out and go
to the bathroom and do their things. So, yeah, you're right.
I kind of feel bad for those. What about the
wild animals. I mean there's deer out there. They do
die in weather like this.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
That, yeah, that's what kills deer. Hunting season is really cold,
and it's supposed to be cold. I remember the winter
of twenty thirteen. It was so cold, and it was
so cold for so long, and we might start seeing
this because next week is supposed to be all cold again.
Is that you'll start seeing or hearing noises in your home.
And the older your house is, the more it's I

(05:32):
feel like it creaks, and it's because the expansion and
contraction of the studs in your home and the rafters,
mainly the wood is moving, and so you'll think that
there's ghosts or you're hearing noises. And I remember in
twenty thirteen they did this whole article and story on
this because people were hearing all these noises. I remember
my door jammed. I had an old door that I

(05:53):
hadn't replaced yet. It split completely in half and so
I ended up having to replace it with our pro
va door so I didn't have to worry about that again.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Did you hear the story about the exploding trees, which
is better?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, that's essentially what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's kind of some guys are debunking it, saying it's
not really happening, but it can happen. Well, now you're talking,
let's forget the exploding tree thing, bring it into your house. Essentially,
stick built homes in Wisconsin made out of wood, a
lot of wood, walls, the studs, everything, and it gets
that cold, and then in summer we can see nineties.

(06:26):
That's over one hundred degrees. Swing that stuff moves around,
It's gonna make noises.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
This is the weather we talk about where we want
to prepare homeowners for this this cold and no product
is perfect. You're never gonna have one hundred percent on anything,
but you're gonna get pretty darn close. And we talk
about triple pain versus double pain, double pain, the threshold
to get condensation, which in this cold could even get

(06:53):
to be. Ice is gonna be a lot, a lot
higher to be the likelihood of it compared to triple pain.
So when you go with triple Paine, it's thirty percent
less likely to get condensation. It still could happen, And
there's things that you can do in your home to
reduce that likelihood. Some of the things is, if you're
running a humidifier right now, you're gonna have condensation because

(07:15):
you're trying to create you're creating a deu point, and
when that glass is touching, there's just nothing that can
be done.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're bringing up a great point. A lot of people
are running those because it's so dry in our winters right.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, you get customers that are calling freaking out right
now because they think it's going to be perfect and
they're not going to have any condensation at all on
their windows or their doors or anything. And when I
was actually on vacation, I was looking I went into
the gym the one morning and all the all the
windows were steamed up, and I was thinking, in my mind,
this is this is humidity inside the gym, obviously from

(07:50):
all everybody working out and sweating. And as you know,
as you look at it. You're it's creating humidity and
it's going to the glass. Is there something wrong with
that glass? No, it's just that the condition in the room, exactly.
And so when you have plants, when you're running a humidifier,
when you're taking a shower, when you're just going to
have enough people in there, breathing, cooking, anything can create
that moisture, that condensation, and it's going to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And here's a abby like yesterday Friday school is canceled.
Let's see, you've got a family, Mom and dad might
have stayed home from work, who knows, family of five,
add a couple of dogs. You're cooking, showering, like you said.
Now you add a humidifier to all of that, you're
bringing that level way up. We're breathing, we're living. Right.
Does that affect windows? If I see condensation in my

(08:34):
window and I have the blinds down, that could essentially freeze, right.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I had some yesterday morning. I have honeycomb blinds, so
that the energy of fishing blinds. I had my blinds
all the way down to the bottom sill, and when
I lifted up the blinds, I had some ice in
the corners, they're triple pain windows. When it's that you
have good windows, I have triple pain. I have Krypton
gas in mine. And when I lifted them up, there
was some ice built up on the corners because what

(08:59):
happens is.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
The moisture gets trapped right.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
At them all the way down. So the moisture gets
trapped and it creates a microclimate. And so once I
lifted them up, waited, you know, fifteen twenty minutes, was
completely gone, burned it off.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, you touched that window right now, go to
your windows and touch them. They're going to be cold.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, and Triple pain is going to be warmer, and
it's gonna, like I said, the likelihood of having that
connensation is going to be less. But it's still when
it's this cold out, your storm doors are going to
ice over. There's nothing wrong with them, it's just this
is the time of year when you're going to have
some of that. So what can you do to help
prevent that? Couple things? Obviously triple pain. Second thing is
is making sure you have energy efficient doors with really

(09:38):
good weather stripping on them. Siding, we do all insulated siding,
So if you have insulated siding. Think about it two.
But you have two by four, two by six construction,
you have studs, and if you don't have insulated siding,
even though your walls are insulated, those studs are not insulated.
So an entire wall and I talk about this quite
a bit, twenty five percent of your your house is

(10:01):
uninsulated and it's creating a thermal bridge.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You're adding up those studs. You're just doing the math
and that all of that added up without insulation, You're
exactly right.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
And so when you have a thermal thermal bridging, basically
what's happening is that all that heat and cold is
transferring back and forth. And what you want is you
want insulation because the insulation creates a thermal break and
so it doesn't allow it to move back and forth,
if you think of it like that. And that's why
you don't have that condensation and icing on all those studs,

(10:31):
because your studs could be icing up right now if
you don't have insulation on them, and you can see
it from the outside. So that's another thing you can do.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Are you saying, don't necessarily freak out if I see
a little ice in the corner of my window.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Right, that's normal. Any any brand.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
At forty five below outside.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You can't expect any window is not going to be
able to handle that.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It'll have patiodors too. We hear a lot about that.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, yeah, And if you if you have blinds down,
that can happen, and sometimes it won't if your house
is a little dry or if you're running a fireplace,
because a fireplace is dry heat. So I run a
wood burning stove in my house that's dry heat. I
don't have the condensation that other people could have that
are running that april air because april air is the
humidifier yep. So if you're running april air and you
have it on winter mode, you are creating humidity in

(11:19):
your home, yes you are.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You're adding to it now by design. Some people don't
want the dry skin, get the shock from the carpet.
I forget what the levels are at Abbey where everybody's
got a different opinion.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So every manufacturer actually comes out with a condensation brochure then,
and if you are interested in them, just contact the
office and fill out of contact form and we can
send you one. But every manufacturer has one. They're all
very similar as far as the humidity level that should
be in your home based on the temperature outside. So
you can even google any of the main three Pella,

(11:50):
Marvin Anderson, Prova, anything you want, it'll come up. You
can find it. You can go into chat GPT and
ask it, you know, find me condensation brochures for these manufacturers,
it should be able to find it.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
But is that different for different areas of the country.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Probably, right, No, it's it's just a standard at brochure
based on the temperature of the home and the humidity
level on the inside of your home. What needs to
be We want to make sure that you're not having
it too high and then all of a sudden it's
sweating if you're running your if you are someone that
runs your thermostat at seventy two or higher, you're probably
going to have some condensation issues.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, we energies put out a thing the other day.
Sixty five to seventy is what they prefer, so that
the system's not being taxed right right, too much. I
get that we've run ours probably about seventy. But you
mentioned a fireplace. I absolutely love having a fireplace on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And the better windows and the better siding, the more insulated.
Your windows in your siding are the less your furnace
is going to run and the longer your furnace is
going to last. So exactly right, everything that we sell
from an energy standpoint is also an investment. So if
you look at windows and siding, the average cost first
value on that, they do what's called the return on
investment and they tell you if you if you spend

(13:01):
this much money, you're gonna get this percentage back and
on windows inside, and we can look it up on
the break but it's around seventy to seventy five percent.
So if you spend say, let's just say a high number,
one hundred thousand dollars SA, you've a huge home, you're
gonna get seventy five thousand of that back right away
from how much more it's gonna be worth. And then
that other amount you're gonna make up in energy savings

(13:24):
not having to replace your furnace. And if you have
that big of a home, you probably have two furnaces.
So you know, you look at the average time or
average life of everything, and it's good. You're gonna make
money on windows insiding, and the.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Newer homes have so many windows in them right now.
There's so much glass and new homes. Windows have gotten
better over the years, Abby correct all windows across the board.
You mentioned some big names before. Your window that you
carry is Prova. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Some some windows still are a little behind in the
times with energy. They don't really focus on that, so
they have not all gotten better over the years.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
But you hear the builder's grade windows.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, the builder grades the metal spacer. You want to
take a look and see when you're looking at windows.
That's the technical part of it, and breaking out is
kind of like looking underneath the hood. The metal spacer
is more likely to cause condensation because it's aluminum or
it's metal. And what the problem with that is that
heat is attracted to cold, and in cold, the glass

(14:21):
conducts cold and metal conducts cold. So when you have
both those things conducting cold, that's when you're gonna get
that ice and all that stuff happening even more because
of the fact that it's conducting cold.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Abby Home is your website, abby home right, abbyhome dot com.
Check it out when you can. You have a showroom
we haven't mentioned where when all that good stuff you're
in walk a shop? What are your hours? Do I
make an appointment.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
So we are in the middle of revamping our whole
showroom and adding way more product than we originally had,
so that should be ready by spring sometime. But we
are in Waukeshaw. We're at four zero seven Pilot Court,
Suite four hundred, so just south of the Waukesha County
Airport off of Pewaukee Road, which is Highway JAY, and
you don't have to go through in the entanglement of Waukeshaw.

(15:08):
You can just get right off on ninety four and
get off on Jay there and just go south past
the freeway and that's where we are. The old joke
one to get airport, I should.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Say, yeah, you're right, you're right. Buy of the airport
should be easy to find, right, it's all on your
website abbyhome dot com. But the joke is you get
into Waukesha. Now, this is before GPS and the wonders
of technology. I can't get out of Walkershaw. It's a
very confusing city.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I always tell my sales reps, and they think it's
kind of like, you know, your grandpa used to walk
barefoot and ten feet of snow type thing. And I
always say when I first started doing this, I didn't
have a GPS, so I had to have a map
of the entire city of you know, the five county map,
but it was like pages. It was it was a
thick book. And I had to find the Customers Street

(15:52):
and then I had to go to that page and
I had to figure out my own plan of how
I was going to get there. And they I'm like,
you guys have no idea. How easy you have it
now that you can just type it in and it
tells you where to go.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I had to like, not only that, but where there's
traffic and accidents in real time. Your Google Maps will
basically tell you, right.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I had to learn every and then I had to
know every cross street, so like Burlei thirty one hundred,
Capital for forty one hundred, still a Spring fifty five
hundred like I knew, and then I knew how you
know howl and Water Street was the zero is like
a grin.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's pretty walk ashod, not so much. Your showroom is
in Waka Shot, but easy to find. Like you said,
in and out and let's go out. Your phone number
WHI we're at it Abbey.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's four one four four three six abbey so four
one four four three six two two two nine, or
you can go to our website abby home dot com
fill out a contact form. You can actually schedule an
appointment right online. You don't even have to speak to somebody,
so twenty four hours a day you can you can
set up an appointment anytime.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Everything we talk about today, your crews install abbey windows, roofing, doors, siding.
We will get into a little bathroom discussion later, but
I think the focus because just of the cold temperatures
that we're going through. This also plays in the summer.
But let's face it's summer. You got the air on,
it's nice outside. If it's eighty five to ninety, okay,
it's warm, cools off at night. This weather is a

(17:15):
little bit more let's just say annoying. I'd rather have
this than the snow. You can drive on this, right
it is.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And then once this starts warming up, then all the
ice dam calls come in of people wanting repairs or
having ice dam issues. And that's something that you have
to realize too, is a new roof is not going
to prevent ice damming. Right, So if you have a
new roof, you might. It might prevent it from getting
in your house because you're gonna have ice and water
shield on there, but it's not going to prevent the

(17:43):
actual ice damming to occur because it's it's insulation, it's ventilation,
it's an entire.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
System or lack of ventilation.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
And most people are all about roofing is the one thing.
It's price, price, price, price price, Well give me the cheapest.
You know, everybody does a chuck in a truck. And
there was just this thing this week on the news
about some local roofer that took people's down payments and
didn't do the job and ran off with their money.
And they thought he was local so they could trust him. Stormchaser,
but a local stormchaser.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Those people are out there a small percentage. But that's
every industry. I think. You just got to do your
due diligence, your local you've been around for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well that's the thing. I mean, I can't hide behind
something roofing, Milwaukee Roofing, or you know, my name is
on the on the company.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So you do a local radio show in w I
s N. Right, you are. We should have mentioned all
of this stuff. You're a BBB Accredited business Member.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Right, we are a plus rating with Better Business Bureau Memborinary. Yeah,
license fully state licensed, fully insured.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Product is GAF. You're a Master Elite Certified contractor.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah. And the other thing you know, as customers, what
the other protection that you have is we also offer financing,
and that financing is done through a bank, and so
the bank actually has to vet us obviously, and so
when when they pull any money any before we do
the job or anything like that, that all is backed
and ensured by that bank. So the customer doesn't have

(19:12):
to worry about that because the financing company is backing
that abby.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
One week after the break, we'll talk more about this.
But in this cold weather, I think they even have
a name. The door socks. You can buy them online.
I see commercials on them. You put it by the
front door.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
If you need a doorstock, you need a new door.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
There you go. That was my question. What about the
plastic on the windows. I think it's three m.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
If you're doing any of that, you need new windows
the door. Yeah, So utilize our financing. We have long
term financing with super low payments. We have twenty four
months of no interest, no payments. So we can do
so much for you as far as financing goes if
you don't have all the money upfront. Helocks are getting better,
so that's a good thing to Interest rates are coming down.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
They're coming down, or year to year they're down a
full point. If you're looking at mortgage rates, right helux two.
I think the next year or two we're going to
see that get a lot better. That's good.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, it's definitely going to better your home.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Use that equity.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
And you know the cost of goods is going up,
so now is kind of that that time where interest
rates are coming down, the price increases, aren't you The
longer you wait, every year that you wait, you're going
to have a price increase. That's just what That's just
what manufacturers do. I wish that I could control it.
I wish I could say that didn't happen, but that's
what they do to us, and obviously we can't absorb

(20:28):
those costs.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Take a car, if you want to buy a new
truck or a car abby, they're not coming down, they're
going up. Look at home values in the last five years,
they've skyrocketed. Some would say it's insane. First time home
buyers can't with the rates at about six percent and
your average medium price at like four hundred grand, how
can I afford a house? But that also would explain

(20:49):
why it's such a good idea to buy a house, right,
it's a great investment.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, in wages, I can tell you even from five
years ago a job, a job from five years ago
that would have paid around forty thousand dollars is now
paying fifty five thousand dollars. So wages are going up too,
And that's just the way it is. And there's so
much competition for trying to hire people. And you know
obviously that you look at the restaurants, how much money
like going out to eat costs, my goodness, And it

(21:15):
started obviously though the servers are going to make usually
twenty percent. If most people tip twenty percent, you're going
to make twenty percent on that higher amount. So they're
making more money than they were five years old. So
everybody's making more money, that is true.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And it is expensive to take a family of four
out or even if down and I go out for dinner, Abby,
you have a bottle of wine. The gratuity which I
tip very generously if I get good service, I'm tipping
twenty five percent at least because that's what they do.
That's right, They've worked their butts off. I think everybody
should have to have a job in the service industry.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I was a busser at the packing house when I
was in high school at the packing house. You know,
that's the thing I as I was telling you before.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know that my parents own a restaurant and I bartended.
You get to know what it's like on that side.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You do and you just don't. You have to understand,
like if you if you don't like your food or something,
that's not the service fault. And if it's really busy
and whatever. It's just more the acknowledgment thing, like hey,
I'll be right there, and if they don't do that,
well then that's on them.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
But I asked, I've never sauce, and I didn't get it.
I was coming off the cruise complain to hear. I
was about to just you stop or at least be nice.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's such a Wisconsin thing for a ranch because it is.
When we were in Punta Kana, my top sails are up.
He earned the trip, so we're he was there with
us and he's trying to ask the Dominican people for
ranch and they're like, what they don't know. I'm like, dude,
they don't know what that I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Know what that is. Here's another thing, Uh, brandy could
be a difficult one and an old fashioned.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I told you the only bourbon they had was Jim Beams,
so that was not fun for me.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
On a cruise ship, everything is top notch. They got everything,
they got every kind of bourbon.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I've never done a cruise.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh Abby, you gotta get on a cruise ship.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I'm so scared to like get neurovirus. No no, or
like that time that.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Actually was a ship and for Lauderdale last week that
got one.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
See and like the time when they had that picture
of the the boat that like went out on its
side and then buoyed right back up, just saying it's.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Like a it's like not getting on an airplane because
of that one thing I saw at one time.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'll tell you what's safer in the air than you
are in the freeway right now. Traveling is horrible if
you have an op like on the way back, cancel
flight delayed, delayed, delayed. We ended up fix it like
spending one thousand dollars, which I am you know, I
don't like spending a dollar and spending one thousand dollars
to get get home because and I'm like, thank god

(23:38):
we did because we would no, I don't know, they
just delayed everything and they that flight that Thank god
we took that flight home, and I said, screw, let's
just go because we would ended up getting home like
the next day at like three in the morning. So
I was like, thank god, you spend the next money.
Sometimes it's just not worth getting stressed out and then

(23:58):
being delayed and then another airport you get sick at.
I was like, forget it, Abby.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I used to did you have connector flights or did
you have direct.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Originally, and then then we ended up finding this sun
Country flight, which I've never flown Sun Country before.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I've never flown them or Spirit.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, I've never flown sun Country. But it wasn't There
was five and a half hours, no snack, not even peanuts.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
How about a beverage.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
They did offer a beverage after Yeah, I had some water.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Not even a little bag of pretzels.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I was because it was booked like two hours
before we left. I was crammed in this little seat
and it was just flying. But I got home safe.
I shouldn't safely.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
No, I'm with you, I don't. I used to love
airports because you get excited. Remember when you were a kid,
did you ever go like as a kid, we'd.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Go see my grandma when she got off the plane
back before two, before eleven, yeah, before nine eleven.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
You could go right to the gate, right and get
right there. My kids used to be waiting for us
when we got I used to love that. I used
to get excited to travel. Now I cannot wait to
just get on the plane and just get me to
my We flew direct southwest from Milwaukee to Tampa. We
stayed overnight and then we got on the Paul Kron
Force Cruise. It was wonderful. We had a great time.

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We had a great group, and we had great weather.
I cannot complain about anything except one thing.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Abby the ranch.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Nope, not ranch. The first night we got to Tampa.
We stayed there night, got on Sunday morning. The Packer
Bear game.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh god, we had bear.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Fans around us who disappeared at halftime into the woodwork.
We're chanting, go pack go, We're up. Was it twenty
one to three, No. Twenty four to three. Right at
halftime games at games in hand, I left the bar,
went up to the room, started looking at the game.
Uh oh, like this can't happen again. And then who

(25:42):
is the rookie rookie Golden got to touch on? Okay,
we got that cushion right. Nope, I couldn't Bears come
back and win? What the hell?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, seven points were lost from that kicker again again.
I don't know why they haven't fired him yet.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
So two missfield goals and an extra point seven points
could be game. Maybe not. I'm so glad the Rams
beat the Bears and how it happened. Sorry, Bear fans,
but it's sports. Don't take it first, you don't.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
It reminded me of when you're grating the cheese on
National TV that you just jinxed yourself, just like the
Brewers when they were holding up that L flag and
then they did horribly against the Dodgers. They kind of
jinxed themselves. They held up the alpha after.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Beating the Cubs and they lost four straight to You
had to bring that up, Abby, and the Brewers just
traded Freddy Peralta. I know which someone says a good.
Some are saying it's wise because of the money, and
he would have been gone anyway. I'm I'm looking into that.
I think they met convalid point.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
The only thing is I really liked Freddy, but he
never usually went past five innings and he didn't do
amazing in the playoffs for us either.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
So watch him this year and keep an eye on him.
A lot of Brewer of pitchers they let go the
next year is not so good. Devin Williams, Corbyn Burns. Yeah, right,
injuries something that the Brewers know. They're very good with pitching.
They just know what they're doing. So don't give up
Her fans, Packer fans. I'm rooting for the Rams tomorrow. Yeah,
two good games tomorrow. I like DeVante Adams.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You want New England or Denver?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, Denver lesser quarterback and that's silly broken ankle play, right,
It's like at the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'm gonna go with Denver. They haven't made it in
a while.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
They got a good defense, I mean they without that quarterback.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Though, I don't know, No, I don't. I'm not saying
that I think they're gonna win. You want I think
I want them to do you want to win the
whole thing. I don't really care. I mean, I would
like to see Seattle go just because I think Sam
Darnold deserved better from Minnesota Vikings, and they basically were like, thanks,
but no thanks. And I think they made a bad decision.
And now I think it'd be good for him to
be Like, how would.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Be a Vikings fan watching him play?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, they deserve it, they should have. I hate the Vikings.
I hate the Vikings more than the Bears. I would
Vikings fans. You know, I've gone to these supply centers,
you know, these trips every year. We go like and
then they try to clump us together so they'll take
like the Midwest group. So we're there with Chicago. We
had all the Bear fans and it was fun to
kind of laugh when they lost.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But then you had the that's right, you were there
the week after us. Yeah, that was the first night.
Was not a good way to start a cruise. Packers, Uh,
this is gonna be a great cruise. And they lose.
By the way, the Bear fans came out of the
woodwork in that fourth quarter and they were sticking it
to us.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Oh well, we deserved it because.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
We're kind of sticking it to them. But again, it's sports.
Sports was supposed to be fun, right, what's the fanatic?
The short is fan. That's what being a fan is all.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
About, right, So yeah, there's always Usually the Vikings are
in the playoffs. Packers Bears usually aren't. But Detroit did
make Viking. The Viking fans they're just they're just the
worst on those trips on the I just they're always
in the playoffs, you know, and they're just.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Here's what the Packers have to do. They made the
playoffs Jordan Love's first three years, They've been in three
straight years. Abby, they gotta win. You gotta win a game.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't. I've told you this before. I don't love Love,
I know, I just don't.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I almost think Malik is as good, if not better.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I know, because he he can't. Love doesn't move, No,
he can barely move.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
They got a nicknack on the team. Is it sloppy
or something like that? The way he runs, it's not
tight to the ground like a running back, like the leak.
That guy can go. He gets a boy if he
there's a quarterback. He just plays good every time he's in.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
They were talking out of Cincinnati, and I think they
should get Joe Burrow. Know what. The rumor is that
he's gonna retire.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
No, that Stafford's going to retire after the Rams are
done and Burrow goes to La Maybe. I don't know.
Jordan Love had four touchdowns. He didn't throw a pick
in the Bear game. Did they lose because of Jordan Love? No,
but they did lose to the Bears, but then the
Bears lost. All is good. All is good in football.
Enjoy the games tomorrow, two great games tomorrow, than a

(29:45):
two week break, and then the super Bowl, and then
we have the Olympics starting soon.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, we need something we need and the Olympics will
give you. So with this cold, it's like, what do
you do?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I know you gotta leave the state. You just gotta
you gotta go somewhere war we'll talk more about energy
fission products, not just windows and doors. Siding place into it.
You want to talk a little bit about metal roofing.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Metal roofing can also save you up to twenty percent
at least under energy bills.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
It looks really good. Think of shingles, but they're metal.
That's kind of what you're putting in right now. We'll
talk more with Abby Binder with Abby Home when we
come back in Wi. Said. Abby's showroom is in Waukshow,
but you can go online right now at abby home
dot com. Metal roofing something we're going to talk about.
Welcome back three modeling. Shall we continue with Abby Binder

(30:32):
from Abby Home Abby abbey home dot com for more information.
Showroom is in Waukesha. When I say metal roofing, what
comes to mind for a lot of people? They think
of these commercial where it's all flat.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
What's it called standing seam?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Standing scene like a barn roof? But come that's you know,
and you'll see that commercially residential roofing. Metal roofing looks
like your standard asphalt shingle, but it's not. It's metal.
Is it more efficient? I know, it's better quality.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, it's called stone coated metal roofing. And if you
a lot of times people think that it's going to
be loud and louder than an asphalt shingle. If you
don't believe me, google it. You can ask it's not louder,
so you don't have to worry about that. Like a
heavy rain and all that. Some people like it, but
the skylights are are louder than anything, or you.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Could have that hal First off, how often is it
hail in a year right at the moment.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
But it's not louder, it's just it's the same as asphalt.
And you can install it on batons. So if you
install it on battens, it actually creates a micro addic
and by doing that, you actually save money on your
energy bills. There's also something called solar skin that you
can use as your underlayment and that also helps with energy.

(31:43):
So there's things that we can do to make your
house more energy efficient. And when you're looking at metal roofing,
it's a fifty year warranty, but it's a true fifty
year warranty even against hail. And that's where this conversation
is really opening up nowadays, because if you start looking
at your homeowners insurance policies, and this is something that
I really urge you to do, you'll start seeing the

(32:06):
deductible for hail damage is starting to go up. So
it used to be like five hundred dollars, then it
was one thousand, then it was twenty five hundred. There's
hail damage out there for five thousand dollars for your
deductible and higher. And the also the homeowners insurance companies,
what they're doing is they're giving you like a pivot

(32:27):
table and of depreciation. So they're saying, Okay, after five
years you have a brand new roof, if it's five
years old, we're only going to cover sixty percent of
an asphalt rough but we'll still cover eighty percent of metal.
But you don't even need them to cover metal because
the metal company, the manufacturer is going to cover that
the warranty there, so I don't have to worry about
a deductible cost. You don't have to worry. It's all

(32:48):
cover undneath your warranty.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Mabbe, you're still installing asphalt shingles, right, We.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Still are, but we just want to make sure that
customers are aware that asphalt is a throwaway product. No
matter what it's you're going to have to place that
it's a throwaway product. And if you get hail and
you want to get it replaced, you're gonna have to
pay a very large deductible out of pocket, and then
the insurance company is only usually going to pay say
fifty percent or less of unless it's a brand new roof,

(33:17):
usually it's at least five years old. They're only going
to pay about fifty percent of what it costs for
a new roof. So you're going to pay that fifty
percent plus the deductible out of pocket. You're probably looking
at anywhere from fifteen to depending on the size of
your roof, thirty thousand dollars out of pocket. So why
wouldn't you spend the extra money now and put a
metal roof on and then never have to worry about it?

(33:38):
And then we all know that if you're going to
file a claim with your homeowarers insurance policy, you know
darn well when it's time for renewal, that premium is
going up. No matter what, they're going to charge you more. Yeah,
they'll get their money back however they want.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
And there's only so many claims you can make. Some
people have had two hill damages, right, you make the
first one's covered, second one, well, they'll drop you, Yeah,
they'll they They may indeed drop you or just say
we're not covering anything abby. But let's get to the
fun part. They look better, they lay flatter, there's a
more dimensional look that you can tell, right, away when

(34:11):
you look at these metal.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
So it looks way class here, and you'll get a
break on your homeowner's insurance policy. So you'll get a
break on your premiums. Now, the brand name that you
have is what we saw one called. It used to
be called Borrel. Now it's called Unified Steel.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Unified Steel. It's a metal roofing. But again it looks
like asphalt, but it's not. You love them.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I love it. I mean I have it on my own,
my own house, and.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You're just starting to take off with your customers. They are.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I think people are starting to realize now that
they're seeing what the way insurance is moving towards this.
It's going to be like what happened last summer with
the flood insurance. People that didn't have flood insurance, you're screwed.
And I think that what's going to happen in the future,
mark my words, Hail damage is going to become a
writer policy and you're going to have to pay a
hefty premium for it, and it's not going to be

(34:57):
part of a standard policy down the line with asphalt
because asphalt is it's not going to be warrantable, So.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
That so the metal roofing in so many and it's
more efficient.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Why would you keep saying that If I was a
CEO or owner of an insurance company, I would Why
would I? Why would I keep ensuring a product that
we know that the more the more hail is becoming
more and more prevalent, and especially in certain areas, kind
of like flood insurance, you have to have certain spots.
They're not gonna they know it's a flood issue. You're
going to pay a huge amount.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Same thing with hal Maybe it's the cold weather, middle
of winter, Abby, it's the new year. I totally forgot
about State Fair and those floods are on West Allis.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, and if you didn't have that rider policy, you're
you didn't have any You don't get you don't have anything,
no coverage. You're relying on FEMA or whatever it is
to help you out, and that was a huge debacle too, or.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Your own money, which is could be a disaster and
spell bankruptcy. Abby Binders here, I'm glad we talked about
metal roofing, Abby, you now offer it along with the
other GAF The asphalt shingles kind of up to you,
but at least look into it. Call Abby if you've
got to Abby. Let's give up your your phone number
at Waukesha.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Phone number is four one four four three six two
two two nine So four one four four three six Abby.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And of course the website abbyhome dot com. Abby abbyhome
dot Com. A lot of talk with the cold weather
about efficient products today. Abby also does bathroom remodeling. We'll
mention that briefly when we come back on WI Sends
Remodeling show. Abby Bender my guest, and I'm Paul Cronforce.
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (39:05):
With Abby Binder and Wis and talking a lot about
these energy Fision products. Shriple pane windows of course is
your preference. Abby, of course you do doors siding as well.
Roofing we talked about before. The metal roofing is big
right now? You love it? I love it. Showing pictures
on the commercial break to me. Let's talk about your
bathroom remodeling division.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yes, so we have a couple of different options in
our to do our bathroom showers. We have our acrylic product,
and then we also have a stone product. It's called pyrostone.
So if you wanted something that's more of a solid surface,
we can do that as well. But we rip everything out,
go down to the studs, put a new pan in
or a new tub in, depending on which way you
want to go. We'll do everything. We pull all the permits.

(39:49):
We have a license plumber.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
You do pull the permits.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
You pull the permits. We have a license plumber obviously,
we're state licensed with and our carpenters do all the
finishing work everything, and we're in an out pretty much
in a day. Unless we're moving walls or having to
move plumbing around. We're pretty much done in one day
and you don't have to worry about having us back
unless we run into something crazy. But ninety percent of
the time it's it's a one day job.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And abby people might go, wait a minute, bathroom mound, Like,
here's what you do. These are the bathtub replacements. You
do the conversions, so tub to bath or bath, the tub,
it's the wet area of the bathroom. You're not doing.
The floor is the vanity, the toilet.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
We don't do that, and we don't go over your
existing stuff. So if you're looking for something that goes
over a different products, your tub or anything, we don't
do that. We want to make sure we get down
to the studs and make sure nothing's molding or leaking
or rotting behind there and obviously getting you sick from
hold that you don't even know that you may have.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I don't even know it's there, Abby, I just we
didn't have much time. We got to come back after
this with the final segment, but I wanted to make
sure people know you're doing the bathroom remodeling adds value
to your house. You can get that old, scummy nineteen
eighties fiberglass stand up shower out of there and get
maybe instead of a curtain, get the glass door.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
You can do the glass door, and at least if
you're thinking about remodeling the whole thing, start with the
wet area saves more money, and then do the rest
of it later.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Right, Yeah, exactly, do it in stages, much like people
do with windows in stages. We'll come right back on
WICN back with Abby Binner here in wism and I'm
Paul krownforst We saved the best for last, wrapping up
through modeling show. You've got a promotion, Abby.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
We do. We have buy two windows get Too Free,
so that's going for another week. We've had that for
December and January during our slower season. Obviously it's not
the time where people are thinking about it with the holidays,
so we offered a really nice special. So we have
one more week to take advantage of that. And obviously
it's very cold out. We're not going to be installing
these products, but at least you can get yourself set

(41:42):
up because it usually takes anywhere from eight to twelve
weeks to even get them in, so we want to
make sure we're ready to go come spring when you
want them, when it's warmer out and obviously before the
price increases will come through.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
By two Windows get Too Free.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
This is going on till when Abbey, till the end
of the month.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Pro Val Windows too. They are let's give much phone
number you Where is your showroom located?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
We are in Waukesha, open Monday through Friday eight to
four and you can give us a call. Four one, four,
four three six Abby So four one four four three
six two two two nine.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Enjoy the football games and stay warm.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah too.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
I have a good week at Abby. Thank you so much,
Abby Binder on WISN. That's going to wrap up the
remodeling show. Check out abbyhome dot com for more information.
I'll be back with Bob Tarantino and Craig Schmitz. It's
the Redefined Realty and Auction Show next on w ISN Milwaukee.