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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wy Sensor Modeling Show. Welcome back to our number two
Saturday mornings from seven to nine this hour with Abby
Home back in studio. Abby Bender and Mandy Binder are here.
Welcome back to both of you. Abby, good morning, Good morning, Mandy.
Good morning to you as well.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Last time. You've been on the show many times. Yeah
for you, first time is Mandy Binder?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Congratulations. Thank you to both of you. Abby. You are
now what would we say, co workers?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I guess yeah, she's back full time.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
So and what's your role, Mandy?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Well, I do a little bit of everything, but my
favorite role is motivation Mandy.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That is my new nickname.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
That's got a little ring to it, doesn't it It does.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
I do a lot of training with the sales reps.
I just got done training a few new sales reps
that are coming on board. Went back to the basics,
and then I host aday meeting that is kind of
going down to the nitty gritty, the two o two
of sales.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Two oh two of sales. How many people work for
your company now, Mandy?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
You have just about thirty employees.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Every time I see Mandy and Abby, you know more
than I do. But she seems like she's in a
good mood. Like this motivational Mandy thing is right up
a rally.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It is definitely. She loves helping people.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And you know that, you know, everybody knows what it's
like to work around toxic employees. It rubs off on others.
So the workplace, the people that work for you, Mandy
with you very important. You are busy, very busy this
week preparing for the Nary Milwaukee show or is it
Milwaukee Nary Show? I always get that screwed up. It's
the Spring Home Improvement Show. Its next weekend, and you

(01:44):
guys are going to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
We are, We'll be there all three days of the show.
Mandy knows the booth numbers better than I do.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Two booths, yep, we have two booths.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
We will be at nine four seven That is our
bath booth and one two two.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Three that is all our other exteriors.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Also that next to each other.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, they're you're gonna have take a little hike.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
This is good though, because your bathroom is an entirely
different division than ab you and you started. The company
is all exteriors and what it still is.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, we do. And then baths is about it's about
twenty percent of our business now, so baths and showers.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, and you will have that separate booth. We should
should we give out all the information right now on
what you do when your bathroom remodel. It's not an
entire bath remodel. You go down to the studs, right,
but it's only.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
The wet area, correct, Yes, just the shower. Bath will
take your old tub out or your old shower out
and we can put in a new tub or a
new shower. You can convert a tub to a shower.
That's not a big deal because we have everything down
to the studs and we're gonna make sure that you
don't have any anything rotted, that you don't have any
mold back behind there. We're gonna get our plumber in there.
We're gonna pull a plumbing permit. We'll have the inspector

(02:56):
all set up ready to go. So once we get
everything in there, we can take a look make sure
your plumbing is up to code. If it's not up
to code, we're going to make sure that we do
everything we can to get it there, and then the
inspector will come in from whatever municipality that you live in,
and he or she will pass pass us, or they'll
say they want us to do something else, and we'll
fix it and then get passed, and then we can

(03:17):
start putting up the walls and the shower pan and
all that fun stuff, and we're pretty much done by
the end of that day, unless we have to move
some knee walls or build walls or anything like that.
If it's just a standard swap out, we're there in
the morning and we're done by that evening, and you
can shower twenty four hours later after all of our
sealans and everything have some time to cure.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That is quite amazing when you think about it. These
are not the inserts other companies do that Abby, That's
not what you do.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Correct. We're gonna take everything out because I don't like
ever putting a band aid on anything. And I feel
like if you put a bath situation, a system or
a shower system over the existing one, it's like putting
lipstick on a pig, and I want to rip that
off out and make sure that there's nothing going on
back behind there that we don't know about. Because you
don't want to spend the money and then have to
rip it all out a few years later because you

(04:06):
didn't know that the wood was soft, or you had
mold growing behind their health issues, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Bathroom or bathtub replacement, shower replacement, you do the conversion,
so a tub to shower conversion or the opposite of
shower to the tub conversion. What's the most popular or
most common?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, my dad was doing all of our measures for
a while and he couldn't believe that everybody's going to
a shower now. And whenever he would get a tub one,
it was like he'd have to call me to let
me know that this person was going back to a tub.
Because we mostly do all walking showers. And we'll do
the doors as well. We can do sliding doors, pivot doors,

(04:45):
that's all part of the system. We'll put a chair
in there if you want, like a bench.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, we could have both. Right, it can be the
bathtub with the shower head.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yes, you could do that, and then you could have
the sliding door above it, above the tub. We can
make that work as well, so it's not anything you
want to do. We can customize it. The big thing
is the biggest most popular thing right now is big
like sloking slabs of granite or marble, like the Correra marble,
the Calcutta look, all that stuff and not having it

(05:14):
look like mini top tile, the sub the big subway
tile and all that stuff is kind of out and
like the big slabs or whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I like that look. It's a bold, rich look correct
that you're going to save money. It's very budget friendly.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
It is. It's the most affordable system you can get
with the most real looking products. So it's not like
a hospital bathroom where it looks all white and stale,
or like a fiberglass insert that's very stale in one color.
This is going to have like a full pattern. Like
I said, it's gonna look like real marble.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
There are some people that say they don't need a
tub in the house. Realtors debate this all the time.
I always say it's up to you the homeowner. That's
my opinion, if you want a tub or get rid
of the tubs. You guys have dogs, we do?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
How many four of them?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Is it really four four pugs?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
We have?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, what are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
We have three pugs and one half pug because the
last one is one that I adapted, so.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Two legs missing.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, she is half screw loose. She does oh she's fifteen.
But she is half pug, half Boston Terrier.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So what's wrong with her?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well, she is officially blind as about five days ago,
and she's deaf, and she also has kidney disease.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But you rescue her. We did a fifteen year old pug.
I hope my I gotta say my heart's up to
my neighbor Donna, who lost their eighteen year old Pucci
on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
But eighteen years, I put it in perspective, gave her
a wonderful, loving life. All dog owners know that there
will be a day when the dog's no longer with us.
So you know, I lost my little Maddie, my lab
of thirteen years old, not about a year ago. It
was little over a year ago. Not easy, not easy
at all. They're part of the family. But talking about dogs,

(07:02):
where do you bathe the dog? Some people have a
laundy room station, some take them to the professionals, or
others throw them in the bathtub.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's a good point.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I throw them in the bathtub.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, so you need a tub right in your case
where the dogs are going to smelling and sticky and
they just need to be bathed. So the bathroom modeling
is outstanding. I think you added that how long ago?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I have a little over a year, a year and
a half ago.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And at abby home dot com there's an entire bathroom
pulled on menu. Take a look Abby Abby, Abbyholme dot com.
Mandybender Abbybinder in studio. Great to have both of you
hosting the show together. Manda, You've got a great showroom.
Let's talk about it. It's in Waukeshaw.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It is in Waukeshaw.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
It is four O seven Pilot Court, Sweet four hundred
B and actually we have some really cool stuff in
the works. One of our right hand men at our
company's name is Bobby.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I believe he may have been on the show before.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Bobby sounds familiar. You've had a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
He's been on.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, well he is.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
He's actually an art major, which I just found out.
And he's building a really cool house that's going to
be in our showroom that you're gonna be able to
see siding up close, windows, doors, bass, We're gonna have
a new patiodor installed like a.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Little mini house exactly inside the show.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yes, you can touch and feel it, see what different
things look like.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeahs like the wrong way to install a window, Like
for the companies that pocket fit metal windows, We're gonna
put one of those in there so you could see
how poorly of an installation that would be. And then
we'll put the real you know, the real way to
do it, our way to do it, and so we're
gonna have different options there so people can actually visualize
what we're talking about when we tell him to not
go with a pocket fit on a metal out.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I think regular listeners know Abby is a huge fan
of triple pain windows. Mandy, I think you would. I mean,
if anybody just looks at numbers, triple pain are are
They're more efficient?

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Absolutely, triple pain is the way to go, especially in
our climate when you have as we've seen recently one
hundred degree you know, temperature swings and polar vortex is
going on.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, last time Abby was on the show, it was
the forty below wind chill air temperature as I think
about five below. That was that the worst week.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's still I feel like it hasn't really warmed up.
Like I haven't even walked the dogs in almost a month.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm of the belief. Well, they got to get outside.
You mean you don't take them on a long walk.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Their paws are. They get so cold that last time
I took them it was like fifteen degrees out and
I had to carry them home because they couldn't lift
their pause softing.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
My daughter bought those little booties for her two dogs.
They hate them. They're not natural for a dog, so
they don't really work, and she decided I'm not going
to use them anymore. That's tough, Yeah, because dogs need
their exercise. People need their exercise too. I get neighbors
that weren't walking, and then it warmed up to oh,
it got up to twenty five and it's like everybody

(09:59):
came out of the would work.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's like a heat wave.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, so now it's warmed up a little bit. But
Manu made a great point. We'd see temperature swings in
the state of one hundred degrees throughout the four seasons
that Wisconsin goes through. What product for Wisconsin home is
different than let's say Tennessee, Mississippi, Arizona. We have some
harsh conditions.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think the biggest thing is is the triple pain
because condensation is kind of that thing that when it
gets really cold out that everybody is calling about and
thinking that there's something wrong with their windows. And if
you have double pain, your your threshold for that humidity
is going to be a lot lower. And if you
have triple pain, you're thirty percent less likely to have condensation.
It's not going to ever be one hundred percent guaranteed

(10:42):
when it's that cold, but you're going to have less
of it. And I know it's very frustrating to people
that wide the windows have condensation on them, But then
you have to do something different about it. Where if
you go if you right now have a double pain
window with a metal spacer, which most wood windows are.
So if you've the big three brands out there there
that are wood inside and metal cloud outside, you probably

(11:03):
have a double pain with a metal spacer because I've
yet to see something different on those. And then you
have connosation issues and you want to get new windows.
But then when you're getting quotes, you're only looking at
double pain and metal spacers. Again, you have to realize
that you're going to be in the same exact situation
that you were with those other windows. So why wouldn't
you spend a little bit more and go with the

(11:24):
triple pain to make sure you're not going to have
that condensation threshold be the same as it is now.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
That totally makes sense Abby, what you're saying. You guys
install all the products that we talk about, windows, roofing, doors, siding,
the bathrooms. Your own crews do all the work.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
We have our guys are you know, they have their specialties,
so you're not going to have an installer that installs windows.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Doing the roofing.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Each division has their own certified installers. And actually, now
how many siding certified siding employees we have, Abbey.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Including me, there's nine of us got certified.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
To GAF Master Elite certified.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, this is the siding vinyl siding. The Vinyl Siding
Institute came in and trained all of us and we
had to take a test to make sure that we
can be able to basically the way that somebody that
we're a home inspector would be able to go and
inspect a house and say this is right, this is wrong,
and all the codes and requirements. We had to take
a test, and so there's nine of us that that

(12:24):
are all vinyl siding certified no.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Abby, You're not out there in the field installing.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, just to just to be able to keep making
sure that we're doing things properly and that everybody on
board on and that entire division knows the right way
to do it, and so that everybody's been trained on it.
And we're really big on training and making sure that
nobody's left behind in that and want to know, want
to know what you're talking about instead of just trying
to wing it.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
So we're going to talk about everything today. Windows, roofing, doors, siding.
I jumped ahead with the roofing. That's where I'm in
GAF and Abby, last time we were on the show.
You're a big proponent of the metal product.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I am, and I was just talking to somebody about
this the other day that I truly feel in the
next ten years insurance is not going to cover asphalt shingles.
And the reason why I feel that way is if
you start getting your annual renewals, your premiums, everything coming
in the mail, you'll start if you really start reading
through the papers that they send, and if you're paperless,

(13:22):
you should go on and look at your policy because
it changes. Is that and sometimes your insurance person just
changes it without telling you that you're deductible changed. But
for example, for our house, we have a five hundred
dollars deductible if anything goes wrong from somebody steals something
from you, whatever, jewelry, all that stuff, and then there's

(13:44):
a writer policy now on it that the hail damage
is like a five thousand dollars deductible. So it's a
completely separate deductible and completely separate entity to your policy.
And if you start looking at that, that's kind of
what happened with the flood insurance. They started kind of
peeling that back and then making it like a rider.
Not everybody would qualify. And I think that eventually they're

(14:06):
going to say, Okay, you're in a you're in an
area that you live where there's storms, hail damage coming
through here every five years. We're not going to cover
this because we know in the next ten years we're
going to have to give you a new roof. And
then we all know what happens. Whenever you file a
claim against your policy, your premium is going to go
up regardless.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh yeah, oh look at was it stayed fair last
summer when the floods came through.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, that was less last August.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Wow, that seems like a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I know Nie still remembers. Auntie.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I'm so sad we didn't get to go to that
one place where there's a big yellow slide.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh, because that last day we're going to go.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, people were there's that tunnel that goes under
the racetrack if you park in the infield.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I would never do that.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That was that was up to the waist, their waste
and then floating cops into breeze and straws.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
And I just can't imagine how much money they lost
by losing that one.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And think how many people filed claims for the basements
around not just West Dallas, but all of the flooding
that occurred in southeast Wisconsin. And Abby, you make a
great point. I think about the metal roofing. Here's my
take on it. Just aesthetically, I think it looks really good.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, it's not the standing seam that you're thinking of
if you're thinking of like a barn roof or a
pull bar, and it's not like that. It's actually a
stone coated It looks like it looks like asphalt shingles,
but it's not. It's metal, and that's going to come
with a true fifty year warranty, so it's not pro rated.
It's a true fifty year warranty. You're not going to
have to worry about hale. It's gonna manufacturer is going
to cover the hail if you ever were to get hale,

(15:37):
So you don't have to worry about all the issues
with the insurance company. Because what they're doing as well
is they're going to send you a pivot table in
the mail, and if your roof is over five years old,
they're going to start depreciating that down. So if it's
ten years old, they're only going to cover fifty percent
of what it costs anyway to replace it. Plus you
add on that five thousand dollars deductible and you're basically
paying for your own roof, plus the policy that they're

(16:00):
going to increase on you. So why not spend a
little bit more upfront, go with metal, and then never
have to worry about it again.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
You do both. You do the asphalt gaf roof and
metal roofing.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
We do. We just want to make it very transparent
and clear of where we think the industry is going,
and so you know, I'm not going to say I
told you so, but I'm going to say I told
you so when it happens. And I did the same
thing with triple pain for so many years. And then
Renumberry Star came in and they said, if you want
to get the tax credit in Wisconsin, you have to
have triple pain windows or you have to basically be
at a point two zero you value a lower which

(16:31):
is triple pain.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And we did see those tax credits, right, we did.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Trump took them away now so those are gone. But
they if you did have the you know, the eligibility,
you had to have pretty much a triple.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Pain not part of the one big beautiful bill.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
That's the one. That's the one thing they took out.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's the one thing they took out. Hey, do we
have a promotion to talk about, Mandy Abby, what's going
on this month?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
We do.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
We have a fifty percent off installation special going on,
So fifty percent off the installation for your windows, doors, roofing,
or sighting through the.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
End of the month.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Through the end of the month.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's a good one. And we got time. Today's what
is today? The seventh Right Olympics started yesterday. I'm looking
at my calendar. The super Bowl is tomorrow. We haven't
mentioned that yet. Any big plans, do you care?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Ding a fire in the fireplace for some snacks and
hanging out with the four pups.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
If the Packers are in it, we would that would
be different, So all we'd be talking about. Right, it's Seattle,
It's it's in San Francisco. Seattle plays the Patriots. I
just don't want to see the Patriots win again. They've
got too many trophies.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Although my favorite, my favorite musician, Brandy Carlisle is actually
doing the America the Beautiful song at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who do you really? Who's doing the national anthem? Do
we know? Should I'll look that up. Are we watching
Bad Bunny at halftime? Or are we doing the alternative?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
We'll to the alternative the alternatives looks.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
To watch it because I have to know we can
do both.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
What's going on with all music in the industry, so
I just have to watch it to.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Know I'm going to be watching both, So the Bad
Bunny and probably real time. The next day, I'll go
everything's going to be in YouTube. You go back and
watch Whitney Houston's and I think the best national anthem
ever was when she's sang that. What year was that?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
That was phenomenal, long time.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Ago, like Lady Daga at the halftime, let's look late.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think my favorite super Bowl halftime was j Lo
and Shakira. That was good.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Lady Goga was twenty seventeen. Not that long ago. Whitney is.
This is going to surprise you guys. Whitney passed away
a while ago, right, so it's uh national anthem. I'm
telling you it's the best ever. Remember seeing the Homer
True playing it on the show when he opened it
all the time.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was probably we still had Brett Farv.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Here we go nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
It was for him two.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Ooh, this is this is interesting. Farv came out in
ninety two, yet won the Super Bowl ninety six.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
You're dating yourself, Paul.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I was born in sixty six. I'm an old band.
I'm gonna be sixty this June.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Abby, I was like nine when Whitney's saying that, So
I don't remember it.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Here's what people don't remember. She's saying into a dead microphone.
It was pre recorded. It was oh really, yeah, it
was phenomenal. Chris Tampleton did a really good with guitar.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
That was outstanding. So bad Bunny, some people like that.
I'm not watching it woke. NFL's woke. I'm watching it,
but then I'm gonna go to Turning Point in USA
is doing their own YouTube versions. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's Mandy's mom and my dad's favorite word is woa.
They're always talking about it.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Go woke or broke that thing?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Oh, these woke people.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Well, I just wish at some point we can bring
back a country halftime. There's so many choices to choose from.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And how about Carrie Underwood cold choice? I think Carrie.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I know what they should do, and they should do
Kelly Clark and Carrie Underwhich, Oh that would be funny. Now,
the original American idolers.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I think they should bring. They should do a jelly
roll with maybe some MGK. That's one of my personal favorites.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Would not be a woke person. Did you see him
at the Award show? I mean he was just like,
praise God, pray Jesus. Really the only one. The others
were all ripping Ice and Trump. They always do this
the political stylish.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, she's getting in trouble.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now she's getting some backlass. Careful, be careful what you
say because it may backfire on you.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Super Bowl aside, politics aside, it is a cultural thing
where the country kind of comes together. We watch it
simultaneously in real time as a nation. I think that's cool.
I think it's one of the only things left that
we do together as a country. Probably not much as
done with the Kentucky Derby inighty five hundred. True, it's about it.

(20:54):
You know, seventy five percent of the country.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
The Formula one. Have you seen that F one movie
with great so good?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Just to watch it twice?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I just saw it, you guys, I don't know anything
about it Apple TV. Right. Yeah, So Brad Pitt's in
a movie called F one.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Any his name is Sonny. I can't think it was
last name. Kind of a has been. But then they said,
you're not a has been. If you never were Ben,
you had to be somebody just I won't give away
spoiler alerts here. Watch the movie. You don't have to
be a racing fan to like it, right.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
And it's PG thirteen. You can watch it with your family.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It's a very It's one of the best movies that
I've seen recently that truly you can watch it without violence,
you know, without all the things that are in most
movies these days. And it's motivational. It's you know, love
sports movies. Is a good storyline, a great streat actors.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It's kind of like Top Gun Maverick, but with with
with cars.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Cars.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I had these, so they go about one to eighty.
I think I did the media tour at the Milwaukee
Mile and I hit one seventy eight. Wow, that's with
I think it's Connor Day. He's on the indie circuit.
So it's where you sit in the back the tandem seat,
had to sign a waiver whear the fire suit. You
had to do a little physical test to make sure
that you're not overweight and all this stuff because put

(22:11):
things lately, if you're fat, you don't fit in those cars.
Have you ever seen a fat car race car driver?
Did you see Brad Pitt work out in that movie?
He jogged every day? Right in me?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Have Rocky like the Rocky versus Drago in Rocky four,
when Rocky's got the old school workouts going on, and
then you have Drago and Russia.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
With the high tech.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
He's hooked up to everything and all the monitors and computers.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Without giving away the storyline, there's a younger racer involved,
and you're exactly right, it is good. I'm glad you
guys brought that movie up. I just saw it and
it's one of my favorites. So super Bowl weekend, it
is the Olympics they just started. Are we rooting for
Lindsey Vaughan?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Of course, absolutely, what a comeback.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
That would be. Although the ACL was it a full tear?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't know, I don't think. I don't know if
she toured, or she's trained it or what.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
But it's not good. But she is. Her first run
is after the super Bowl. Think of that, really, So
when the super Bowl's done, turn on the Olympics and rooffer.
She's forty one years old. It would be a comeback
of the ages if she would even win any podium, right, silver,
brunze or gold. And then of course next weekend, of
course the Big Nary Show. Let's rebooth. This is Friday,

(23:21):
Saturday and Sunday's Valentine's Day weekend. Mandy, give us those details.
Be looking for the abbey home booths plural.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, we have two different booths.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
So this is February thirteenth through the fifteenth, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
On Friday, the show runs from ten to eight pm
on Saturday ten to seven and on Sunday ten to five.
We'll be in booth nine forty seven. That is our
bath booth and one two two three that's our exterior
booth that will have our windows, entry door, patiodor roofing,

(23:54):
siding and gutters.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I am told because it's Valentine's a weekend, they're offering
in old fas special. I hope I get this right
to old fashions and a flatbread for some special phenomenal price.
So take your special Valentine there Saturday. Nothing says happy Valentine's.
They like going to the Narry show. It's so romantic.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's a great date.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
First date. That would be a good first date. And
then if they can't make the Narry Show, Mandy, we
can stop by your showroom. What are the hours in Walkshaw.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
We are open Monday through Friday eight to four and
our address is four oh seven Pilot Court, Suite four
hundred B in Waukeshaw and.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
The website is abbyhome dot com. Abby home dot com.
Check it out, great website. Or we can pick up
the phone and.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
You can call four one four four three six two
two two nine or four one four four three six Abby.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
After the breakwaark, is there a new product that we're
supposed to be talking about today?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
There is? We have a new window line out.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, okay, like a new product.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Well, we actually now have our own custom window line,
so we can talk about that. And we also have
a new line of entry your doors as well.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Are you still carrying the pro Va line of windows?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
They're all made by Prova?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yes, oh okay, so that we'll talk about that next.
That's coming up. In addition, you do everything as I
mentioned on the exterior, that includes siding windows of course,
roofing doors. How about the little stuff Mandy gutters, We.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Do gutters stop at Phasia, attic installation, all that good
stuff too.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Glass block windows?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, I love those. How many times did I say, Abby,
since the first day you're on the show, I need
to get glass blocking? I didn't. They just look classier
than that builder's grade cheap window.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well, you're a serial room moodeler like I tell you.
So you're just making your way around to the bottom
of the house and getting that done.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Probably soon you should have your own show.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I do well on TV show.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Now we'll step it up, a.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Little TV show with pictures, do wonders. O'kay. That's why
I sell it. Go to your website, go to the
Narry Show, get out, stop by Abby's showroom and Waukesha.
You need to see the product. What Abby's talking about
is we did the kitchen, then it went to the Andrew.
The garage was an excellent like, let's just do it
right because I never dry wall the garage, Abby, so
it's just like half his drywall. The other half was not.

(26:08):
There was no insulation in it. So we just did
it the right way. Got the new polyra floor done nice,
which is better than epoxy. I'm told I'm not a
garage expert. Don't hold me to that, but I'm told
by almost everybody that's the way we have.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
The epoxy up North, just because there was a guy
in Appleton that did it, and he was a big
believer of it. Because he's done like all the paper
mills and everything up there setting in twenty some years.
He's never had to redo a floor or any of
that and you can get it wet.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
How has it performed for you? It's been fine, okay,
because they look the same. They're basically the same poly
your polyira, I think it's called uh poly rhea. I
think you know.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Honestly, we've been under like a construction zone up there
for the last five years, so we haven't really even
been able to enjoy the garage floor. It's always full
of wood and old debris that ripping out and everything.
So gage is there four though, finally done with the
remodel up there, and you know till I'm a serial
remodel for myself. So I'll come over and once I.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Start, it's like, do you want you want to heat it? Paul.
I'm like, yeah, let's heat it. Yeah, do you want
to Yeah? You want a flat screen? Yeah, you gotta
have a do you spend time? But yeah, let's get
a new work bench out there. I want it to
look clean. I like the clean garage look, but I
also need to add some color. You you brought up
a great little suggestion Abby, make an accent wall out

(27:27):
of palettes. That would look really And.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
There's that place up by you in West Bend that
you can get all those palettes for like five bucks. Really, yeah,
it'll take some time to take a you have to
take one of those uh saws holes and just kind of,
you know, zip off all the nails.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well, I would have my guy do it. I'm not
a handyman, as you know.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, maybe that maybe this should start your new trend,
is that you remodel yourself a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
As I'm like partially retired. Yeah, start taking up remodeling.
I've hosted the remodeling show for thirty five years. I'm
the most unhandy guy there is.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
You can try with a palette wall, so it's like
puzz can't screw it up? No, it's like a puzz. Yeah,
it's like a puzzle and then a nail gun.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Like putting in LVP flooring.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's even probably easier than that because you can kind
of make it messy. You don't have to have it
all even.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Right that there is there is an art to that,
you know, putting in the floor It's that's why they
call it abby. The skilled trades you know all about
this because it's hard to find great skilled workers these days,
am I right?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
We've had actually a pretty good luck lately. Obviously, we
make sure we take care of our guys and we
don't have the cheapest labor, which is why we aren't
the cheapest price. But we don't want the headaches, we
don't want the service issues. We want to make sure
it's done right. And that's why we have guys that
actually care. And you know, not to call anybody out,
but at our Christmas party, we gave some guys the

(28:46):
Installer of the Year award and just seeing how proud
they were and brought some brought some tears out that
they were recognized for for their all their hard work.
And I think sometimes the installers, when you get like
recognition and everything, you know, just because they're going every
single day and working and doing their job, it's you know,
it's that feeling of like, well, that's what you're supposed

(29:07):
to do. But I think sometimes important to recognize how
hard how hard I.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Think you're right, it goes along the way if you
have a good what do we call mandy motivational mandy, Yes,
that goes a long way in the workplace. Now that
you can't always be giving out the gold ribbon to
everybody or it's a participation ribbon. It doesn't mean anything,
but when when you do it, when it matters. First off,
just saying you got a Christmas party. There are companies
that don't do Christmas parties. It's all about the culture, yes,

(29:35):
and that'll help employee retention, keep the good employees.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Absolutely, we definitely there is one thing that we take
very seriously at our company. And not only am I
motivational Mandy, I'm also I oversee our culture club and
we do a lot of cool things at our office,
but we like to think of ourselves.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
As one big family. At Abbey Home.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
It was a good band from the eighties Culture Club.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
She also does all the plant so the whole Hawes
thing and all that that was all oh the her stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That's a Hawes is just a good, good, good organization. Right.
I know your dog lover, Mandy, right, and you too, abby,
both of you. I am too. I am love dogs.
Don't currently have one because we just remodeled everything, so
I don't want to talk the mess of though.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, the fifteen year old one of ours rescue one.
You know, we have nights try though she is now
needing a diaper, so we're just I think that. You know,
a lot of people would have said goodbye to her
a long time ago. But we just keep on, keep
on trucking.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And they're done that. Abby. I was called up with
my wife for doing it too long, keeping Maddie around
too long, but diapers for the last four months of
her life, had to right, could not put her down,
just could not do it. Finally the vet convinced me
it's just time. It was thirteen years old for a
lab that's pretty good, right. Your pugs, how long can

(30:54):
they live?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Greta is going to be sixteen next week?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
And then we don't really know how old Maggie is.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
She think fifteen?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh they're.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
No no, which is eleven? Yep. She just had her birthday.
And our little Lala is one and a half. She's
going to be two. I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
So in dog years, your youngest one is about eight
or nine. Your oldest one is well over one hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Right, a little bit of us swing there.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Human dog years if you do the seven years over here. Okay,
Abby and Mandy Binder are here from Abbey Home. They're
in Waukesha. They're at the Nary Show next week. Friday,
Saturday and Sunday. That's at State Fair Park in the
Expo building. This new product that's coming out is going
to be talked about in the next segment here in
wyssends you Modeling Show. I'm Paul Crownforce. Stay tuned, wyosends

(31:38):
your Modeling Show. Welcome back to the program with Abby
and Mandy Binder from Abby Home. I'm Paul crown Force.
Good discussion on what your company does. Mandy and you
talked about unveiling. Is that the right word. A new
product that's out there, let's talk about it. It's a window.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yes, we have our new custom window line with Probia.
It's actually called LOOPO.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Well, and I don't know if Amby wants to talk
about that really quick.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
How we got that name?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well, Loopo is Italian for wolf, and where I got
that from is because my Bonelli rifle that ider hunt
with is called the LOOPO. So I was like, I
like that line. And then you're the Predator of the North.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
So it's a it's a pro Va made window.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
It is, but it's our label on it, so that's awesome.
We so we call it LOOPO because it's the Predator
of the North. And wolf is like you know, my
my spirit animals. So it all it all ties in,
so you got to name it.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I did, okay, so continue because pro vas that's up there.
When you talk about top window lines, everybody knows the
big names, right.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yes, all Amish crafted a lot of things they do
by hand because they want to have such control over
the product. So this is our pure virgin vinyl window line.
Obviously trible pine glass. That's our bread and butter. That's
we recommend to everybody. They have so many little details
with this window, and you can get a wood grain

(32:59):
window that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is best at both worlds.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
It is vinyl, so it's low maintenance, but it has
the beauty of wood. They actually have something called a
fine line weld on it, so instead of seeing Abois
refers to it as if you were to turn a
T shirt inside out and look where the arm sleeps.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
There you have the seam.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
So this does not have that with the wood grain,
and you actually can get it as an upgrade with
just a vie white vinyl window as well.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
So what I mean stained in Wisconsin, if you've got
a nineties home, you got stain. You want to kind
of match that is that what most homeowners do, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I would say so most home owners try to match that.
Otherwise you're changing everything out. But some people the white
look is still in. So a lot of people do
change and do the white trim and white windows and
brightens everything up in the room. But otherwise we have
a lot of different wood grains and stains to match
to what you already have in your house.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
And it's triple pain.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
It is triple pain. We have the argon gas, the
low E coding there. But what makes this different is
we actually have a foam spacer. So as a we
mentioned before, a lot of the big wood window companies
have a metal spacer which is going to conduct that
heat and cold and ultimately it's going to cause the condensation.
Also when your window and the glass flexus throughout our

(34:15):
different temperature swings that we have, if you have a
metal spacer, you're more likely to get the stress fractures
in the steal failures, and that's when you see your
window fog up. So having the foam spacer eliminates that
by I would say at least eighty percent.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's a great word you use. Flexes. Have you noticed
in the dry winter months, we have hardwood floors and
there's gaps between. I mean they're not huge, but it's
like shrinks and then in summer it goes back. That's
what wood homes do, stick built homes of Wisconsin, they
move absolutely.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
And that's actually a great segue into our entry doors.
I was just teaching this in my class on Thursday,
that if you go to an old nineteen nineties house
or something built in early two thousands, obviously you're older,
and you step back and you look at their front
entry door, a lot of times you'll see light coming
through either the bottom or the side of the door.
And that's because the house is settled and the threshold

(35:08):
of that door does not move with the house or
with the door, and so therefore it's not flush and
plumb like it used to be when it was first installed.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You might see with molding sometimes like we're kitchen cabinets
run all the way to the ceiling, you might see
that separation a little bit. It's because the homes are.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Moving absolutely, and so with these new doors that we
have with Provia, they actually have an auto adjustable threshold,
so you no longer have to worry about that that
this threshold is actually going to move on its own
with the home, so you'll always have tight seals on
your door. You won't have any of that air infiltration
coming in.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
There's no crank manually to move right, or there's not
an air.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
To a screwdriver or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's just it adjusts by itself. Yes, wow, it's pretty cool.
Those front doors you install, those are pro Via too.
They are a great name. As you mentioned, I like Loopo.
I like the name Abbey.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well it's actually stole it from Banale.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
But yeah, yeah, everything has to do with hunting or
fishing with us.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
That's good. That's a good thing, is it, l Upo?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It is?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, I got it right, Abby. You are running till
the end of February a fifty percent off installation promotion.
That's significant. Half off of installation.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
We are and you can also do. We have long
term financing options with low monthly payments. We also have
no interest monthly payment options. You don't have to accrue interest.
We have a lot of different things we can do
to make your project affordable. If you want to do
a lot of the all the projects, some of the project,
we can break it all down you can do it
in phases. We're here to kind of work with you

(36:40):
and your budget and fit it in.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Uh. You make another good point about how many windows
do we install at a time? Can you do the
whole house at once? The answers, of course you could,
But do many people do that?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Most do, because then you want to see the value
of having the entire house being energy efficient at the
same time, where if you only do it you at
a time. Plus, if you're trying to change the color
of the look, you're gonna want to do at least
one whole side of the house because you don't want
it to look mismatched as you're changing it out.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
That's not a good look. You're right, And Mandy, you
said something funny before that that I got to go
back to. Not funny, but it just caught my attention.
An older house built in nineteen ninety it is that's
thirty six years ago.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I can't believe that.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean, it's the windows are thirty six years old.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I was born in eighty seven, so I feel like
I'm a true nineties baby. But it's all Do you
notice how it's all coming back?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Of course, it's.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Everything from the nineties, probably two thousands now, you know,
on social media, it's all going back to twenty sixteen,
ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I noticed some women's jeans are like these wide loose
that you're wearing right now. You just lift it up.
You're like, that is back. That's like the Brady Bunch,
right shake, carpeting will be back someday. The mullet is back.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Sort of, where's yours?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm not I had one, but you need hair, you
need to build a growth. He I guess I could
grow my hair long. I would look like an idiot.
Who's the golfer that has the mullet? Ricky Faller? It
looks it's thin. Put it that way, so Abby, it's
string looking in the back.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
I got to look it up.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, look up Ricky Feller's mullet and you'll know what
I'm talking about. In the meantime, a quick break on
WYSN Super Bowl weekend where with Abby and Mandy Bender
from Abby Home. They're in Waukesha, They're at the Narry
Show next weekend at State Fair Park, And this is WYSN.
I'm Paul Krown for Stay Tuned.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
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Speaker 1 (38:27):
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Speaker 5 (38:29):
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Speaker 1 (38:42):
WYSN and the Remodeling Show continue with Abby Home, Abby
Bender Mandy Bender in studio. Mandy. We talked about that
new product line that you debuted and you also we've
been focusing on windows, but that front door.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yes, there's a new front entry door. I should call
it an entry system from it's called the Ascent entry Door.
It's time to elevate your home. So that is their
new line along with their signet fiberglass and our steel
line as well.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
With the storm door. Do you are you a proponent
of putting a storm door in.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yes, you can as long as it's Provia, because it
all is with the system. I always explain it like
it's a puzzle. So Provia puts everything together, even their hinges,
threshold down to how they put the weather stripping on
the door, so everything fits perfectly. So if you are
going to put a storm door on, make sure that
it's Provia. And the nice thing is it does not
void the warranty. Whether you have a storm door or not,

(39:37):
you still get the same warranty.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I mean, if you'd ask me, do I want to storm?
I think it's a cleaner look without one, but they
really help keep the First off, you can't get a
breeze in summer if you don't have that storm door, right,
That's true, So I'm going to advocate of them. It
gives you that extra little layer. So acent that name.
Oh we have an answer to who's singing the national
anthem at the super Bowl tomorrow? Charlie poo And I said,

(40:01):
who the hell is that? And you guys laughed at me.
I felt stupid. Yes, you're younger than me. He was
about to judge on the voice and he sings what song?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Abby sings a song one call away that's just like
I think most famous one.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Charlie Pooth is singing the national anthem tomorrow at the
super Bowl. Be fun to watch a lot of stuff
going on. Of course, the Narry Show is next weekend.
Abby Home will be there. We'll give you info on
that and of course their Waukesha showroom coming up next
on WYSN. Wrapping up the Remodeling show with Abby Home.
My thanks to Abby Bender mainly Bender for being here.

(40:35):
You're at the Narry Show next weekend. Man, you've got
a great showroom in Walkshaw as well. Let's give out
all that information. Oh and include your promotion fifty percent
off installation.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Next weekend Valentine's Day weekend for anybody that forgot, is
the Narii Home Show. It is the thirteenth or the
fifteenth Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Those hours are ten to
eight on Friday to seven on Saturday and ten to
five pm on Sunday. We will be at booth nine
forty seven. That is our bath booth and one two,

(41:08):
two three are exteriors which will be our windows, entry doors,
patio doors, roofing, siding, gutters, sofat facia and at a
co installation.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It'll be a good show. It's the biggest of the two.
You can buy too old fashions and a flat bread
and take your special Valentine through that cabin. Abby. You
looked at the cabin school, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It's really cool. Yeah, I'm excited to see it.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's built just for the show at State Fair Park
next weekend. Many great job having you back in the studio.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Thank you, thanks for having me Paul.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Nice to see you again. Abby. Any predictions on the
Super Bowl. Yet we want Seattle.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I think it's going I'm gonna go with Seattle. I
think that they have a little bit older players and
Sam Darnos. Sam Darnold gets his redemption against the Vikings,
which he well deserves. So I'm gonna go with Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And I think New England's got enough championship trophies. Manny,
you care not.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
As much this one, but I would go at the
Seahawks if I had to choose.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's a It's more of a party, isn't it than
the game. The game is secondary. It's just fun being
around people and having the game on. Enjoy it. You guys,
have a great weekend, and of course the Olympics for
the next two weeks are going on. My thanks to
Abbybinder Mandy Bender. Check out their website abbyhome dot com.
All right, that's going to do it for the Remodeling show.
I will be back with the Redefined Realty and Auction

(42:26):
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Betrayal Season 5

Betrayal Season 5

Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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