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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're back here on iHeart Sincy. I'm your host, Sandy Collins,
and coming up here. We've got a great program with
Butler Tech Aviation Program Principal, Adam Snotty. Adam, I want
to tell you that this has really got my attention
today when I found out about the opening of your
new aviation center. Because I was raised in the birthplace
of aviation, home of the Wright Brothers, went to Wright
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State University. My great uncle was the very first curator
of the National Museum of the United States Air Force
and a total NASA Space nerd as we speak, So
aviation runs in my vein. So, Adam Snotty, Butlertech Aviation
Center's principal, thank you for being here with us on
iHeart Sinsey.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Let's talk about this program today.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, I appreciate your interest.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It's we are definitely we are definitely really excited.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Tell me about your role there, how you came to
the Butler School District, and how you got involved with
this aviation program and leading it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So I am the Aviation Center principle at Butler Tech.
As we're opening up our new aviation center at the
Middletown Regional Airport, I've been with Butler Tech now, this
is my eleventh year there. I was actually a social
studies teacher for the previous ten years and then have
moved into the Aviation center principal world recently. And it's
not that I have a unique aviation background myself. We
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have several folks on staff are aviation instructors that have
backgrounds ranging from retired Air Force kernel to folks with
private pilot backgrounds to folks that have been airframe and
power plant mechanics that are doing all the hands on
work with our students on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, that's very good. You're kind of like Leiococa.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
They put him in charge of making cars and Chrysler
back in the seventies when they were when they were
in crisis, and he knew nothing about it, but he
knew how to handle the people in the administration of
it so that the people who were experts in their
field of making cars could flourish, and he would just handle.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The admit strait of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So if anybody calls you Lei Ohcca after this, it's
because I threw that idea And now you have to google,
don't you. I can tell by your face. You have
to google Leoh, I am I do.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Know no, no, no, I said, I was a social
studies teacher. I'm but where I know the name and
the history. I don't necessarily know it from first hand
nineteen seventies experience, but I do know it in the content.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They don't have to rub it in. I do have
it first and experience. Soh anyway, thank you for playing
along there. Tell me Adam about this program. It's going
to more from a half day to now. You're going
to move everything to this new aviation center. So let's
talk about how that came about.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Sure, So, the aviation program at Butler Tech started in
twenty nineteen, and it's been based in two different locations
up to the point of our new building opening, where
students would spend half of their day in a rented
location at the community hangar at the Middle Regional Airport,
some old offices that we retro fitted into functional classroom space,
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and then they would be bussed midday back to our
main campus, d Russell Lee in order to take their
academic courses English, math, science, Social studies, and then have
lunch as well. So half of the students would do
lab in the morning at the airport then come back
to the main campus. The other half would just be
the reverse order, and we would have fifty students in
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the program, twenty five eleventh graders twenty five twelfth graders. Well,
with our anticipated expansion this year, we've now moved it
to being a three year program where students now come
in as tenth graders. So not only have we added
an additional year to the program in order to expand
our capacity and offer more opportunities for students, but now
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all of our operations, from our aviation courses, to our
academic courses, our food service, all of that is now
going to be housed under one roof at the Aviation Center,
which is being constructed at the other end of the
runway at the Middletown Airport from where our current rented
location is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's a huge and ambitious undertaking.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tell me about the facility itself, it's twenty thousand square
feet or so yees.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So there's actually two parts to the facility.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So the main building is just shy of twenty thousand
square feet, which is most of our classroom and a
lot of our hands on lab areas. Certainly it includes
our food service kitchen area, some academic space commons area
that'll have seating and a variety of other things, and
then just the normal school operations elements of the office
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and the electrical room and all of that kind of stuff.
But we also have a standalone eighty five hundred square
foot hangar that's part of the facility as well, that's
built directly behind the main building. So between the two
we're somewhere in the range of just shy of thirty
thousand square feet. All of that put in total, is
going to allow us to offer aviation course work for
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students that want to pursue being pilots or drone operators.
We're expanding now into offering aviation maintenance programming for airframe
and power plant mechanics, and we're also looking into adding
an aviation engineering pathway for students that are interested in
pursuing that too.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
This seems unprecedented in our area.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's definitely not just new for us, but very unique
in the sense that while other aviation programs exist, this
is one of very few aviation high school campuses anywhere
in the United States, and certainly in our region.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's just there's very.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Little precedent for having an entire high school that's built
around preparing students for work in the aviation industry, and
we think that that certainly is one of the things
that sets it apart and one of the things that
initially attracted interest to this. The reason this expansion into
our new building is occurring in the first place is
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a combination of student demand where we've had a history
with the program of having far more applications than we
had seats available, so we've had to turn students away
in the past because we couldn't simply accept them we
had no more space. But at the same time, we've
heard enormous industry demand on the workforce development front, specifically
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for maintenance technicians. There's always a need on the pilot
drone side as well, and that's really how we were
able to piece things together to acquire the funding to
actually make this project happen.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Where would students go if they didn't have this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Many people that wanted.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
To be a pilot would go through the Air Force,
or they would try to go to maybe an emery
or some other aviation based place like Purdue. But to
do all of this is such a unique opportunity. Where
would they go to learn airplane maintenance or working in
the actual industry itself if this didn't exist right now.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's an interesting point because a lot of the ways
that people would acquire skills and knowledge in that way
in the past has always been post secondary.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's always been an after.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
High school thing for a lot of people to where
maybe they would do the community.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
College or technical college route.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There's certainly four year programs in certain universities that offer
them or on the job experience that kind of morphs
into more over time. That's one of the things that's
really unique about what we're doing is we are attempting
now to push as much of that opportunity into the
high school level.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And that's one of the.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Reasons that we've expanded the program from a two year
model to a three year model so that we bring
students in now as tenth graders, is so we have
more time to help them number one, understand the sheer
scope and breadth of the aviation industry and all the
different things it entails beyond just flying a plane. The second,
depending on what they're most interested in. It gives us
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the ability to get them further along the curriculum and
help them become more skilled so that when they do graduate,
they're prepared for whatever pathway they choose. If they want
to pursue a military career, we want them to be
ready for that. If they want to go straight into
the workforce as a mechanic, we want them to be
ready for that. If they want to pursue a two
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year or a four year post secondary degree, we want
them to be ready for that. And by putting more
of that aviation coursework into the high school level, it's
also a major financial savings for our students because everything
they're doing with US before graduation is tuition free. So
if they're able to complete part of an airframe or
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power plant rating and get even if they don't finish
the full thing, but if they get a chunk of
the way down that road, everything they've done before they
cross the stage at graduation with US came with no cost.
So it's saved them and their families and their their
future families significant amount of money that can easily add
up into the five figures, and beyond that is potential
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debt that is no longer a factor for them.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm speaking with the Butler Tech aviation programs principle. This
is Adam Snotty and Adam, you know vocational programs. I
went through a vocational program so many years ago for broadcasting,
and it was a it was a two year program,
I believe, and it was so helpful and we were
down the hallway with you know, the kids in shop
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and the kids in home ec and business machines and cosmetology,
and all those folks you know, got careers after that
without having to you know, put out a whole lot
of post graduation money, like you said. But now it
seems that schools have really embraced the whole vocational technical
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side as being absolutely as relevant as going to college
because college is so expensive and because it's now to
the point where you can't really prove that you make
more money with a college education, but you certainly need
the people that are in the trades. And so if
you've never even thought about the aviation industry because it
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never came across your plate, this is an opportunity if
you live in Butler County.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Absolutely, I agree completely, and I think it's a really
positive trend that generally, I think.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
In society we've seen that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
There's kind of a renaissance for career tech programming that
career tech isn't viewed as lesser than college. It's simply
viewed as a different pathway that is a better fit
for many people. And we want career tech to be
viewed as something that can either enhance someone's more traditional
educational experience or it might be a replacement for that altogether,
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if someone is truly dedicated to the hands on on
type of training and programming that career tech can offer.
And I think that that's one of the things that
we really want to pursue at Butler Tech as a district,
but certainly at the Aviation Center, is to help students know, yes,
we still require academic courses, they still have graduation requirements,
and there's still value in those things.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I mean, I didn't grow up teaching career tech.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I spent most of my prior to this as an
academic teacher, and I think there's a lot of value
in that.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But one of the things that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We really try to prioritize is how can those academic
subjects be tailored in a way that helps students see
the practical value in them to where it's not just
learning for the sake of learning, but it's learning for
the sake of a practical skill or set of knowledge
and information that's going to help me advance in my career,
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in my life, help me understand the world around me
a little bit better in a way that's actually going
to be meaningful to me.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So, if you're in Butler County and you're interested in
getting a high school student involved in this program, there
is a process to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You want to run that down, mister so Noddy.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
So for Butler Tech programs, we provide access to students
across eleven different school districts, the all ten school districts
in Butler County along with one in Hamilton County that
are affiliated with Butler Tech where we provide their career
tech programming. So students that live in any of those
districts all have equal opportunity to apply for our aviation
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program or for any of our other programs. And then
once the application window comes to a close, then depending
on the number of applications that have been received for
a program based on the seats available, then we start
to work through our process on the back end there
to make sure that we're providing access to as many
students as we possibly can.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You're hoping to open this new aviation center, all brand
new later this year, maybe in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
In the next few days, almost really excellent we have
so our student classes will start at the aviation Center
on January twentieth. We are less than one week away
now getting things open just here.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
In the near term.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We have some other events to bring the public in
that'll be a little bit later on, but we are
in the process right now of making our final transition
up from our current locations, to get equipment moved up,
to get things set up, the final prep for installing
new technology, and all of those things are quite literally
happening as we speak.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Mister Snoddy, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
For people that have never again this is brand new information,
They're like, Wow, I never even thought about the aviation industry.
What employers in this area, including Joby Aviation up there
is going to be making those air taxies. What other
places are hiring folks that would be able to come
through this program.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Can you give me some big names or well?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I think Joby's a good exam and I think
maybe it starts.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
With just a little bit of context too.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You know, if you put a put a pin on
Greater Cincinnati and draw a circle around it, that represents
basically a two hour driving distance in any direction. There
are basically as many aviation related jobs in that two
hour circle as there are in any similarly sized geographic
area anywhere in North America. If you think through it.
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We've got CVG just there in northern Kentucky, where Amazon
Air has an enormous operation the Dayton International Airport.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You reference Jobe Aviation.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
With advanced air mobility defense contractors in the Dayton area
as well. There's also Wright Patterson Air Force Base, the
single largest employer in the state of Ohio. In addition,
you go a little further out the Columbus areas building
a new passenger terminal. FedEx has a major operation in Indianapolis,
ups in Louisville, and then where we're at at the
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Middletown Airport. There's a lot lots of smaller airports like
that that may not have the sheer quantity of staffing needs,
but they still need people that have an aviation maintenance background.
They need airport operations, They need folks to do the
essentials of operating a functional airport. All of those things
combined mean that there is enormous opportunity and there's also
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enormous workforce need.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And to know that you can get all of that
experience and education and there's no tuition costs in high
school is just a blessing upon a blessing. So they
can contact the program through the website, through their kids,
through their principal, I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, absolutely, the simplest place to go is just butlertech
dot Org is the district's main page, and information about
all of our programs with aviation and our Aviation Center
facility all is readily available there, and that's a one
stop shop for anybody that wants to learn a little
bit more or reach out further more for more specific contacts.
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And then our application window for students that are interested
in applying is also all available there.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The Butler Tech Aviation Center principal, mister Adam Snotty.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
It's people like you who change lives.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Thank you so much for what you do, and thank
you so much for leading this program.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Well, thank you for the time, and I appreciate the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Very enjoyable all the way.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now, if you live in Butler County, you've got a
high schooler that's interested in this aviation program. Get ahold
of Principal Adam Snotty. The program is at the Middletown
Airport and they're opening up that new aviation center this week.
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