Do you need to re-pot your plants?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin this beautiful Saturday morning.

(00:04):
I'm here with Pat Grease and a good friend from
Nytorp Nursery and Jordan holk Camp from EHR, a plant
brokerage firm. We'll talk a little bit about what that
means in the coming minutes. Pat, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You're certainly welcome. So you, first of all, let's get
this out of the way. You work at Nytorp Nursery,
which is where the predecessor to this show, Ron Wilson worked. Yes,
it still works, and everybody wants to know. There are
a lot of longtime fans here that have carried over
to this show from his what's Ron really like?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ron's a great guy. I've worked with Ron for almost
forty years, actually over forty years. I've known him. He's
been there all along while I've developed my career there
at so we've worked pretty closely. And he was a
really good mentor.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, he is a good guy. I was hoping for
a little scoop, a little something.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's a fun guy. So he makes the job really
fun and keeps it really light. How's he been doing
he's doing great, good, doing good, still involved with the company.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, I know, he stepped down a little bit, you know,
kind of backed away from the massive workload that he had.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Absolutely and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I'm wishing all the best to Ryan, hoping to
get him back here as a guest soon.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, he'll do it, he'll do it well.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You know, he's kind of vague. He always keeps you
kind of wondering.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, So, Jordan, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thanks Scott, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah. The cool thing about having you both here today
is that you both are tried and true, complete total
plants people. I've known you since you were a teenager.
I don't know if you remember that, but at Greenfield.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was probably my first job in hortical working at
a nursery.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
We were there together, Yeah, and had several crossings in
our careers.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it's been a long time. I've been in the
industry almost thirty years.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
How young were you when you started there?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, gosh, it's a long time ago. Twelve, riding my
bike pedal bike to the nursery, yeah, and pulling weeds
for yeah. Two dollars an hour. I think that got
that's child abuse, That's what I thought. Man ended up
working there for sixteen years, So that was the start
of my career, and you know as awesome. Yeah, combined

(02:28):
a love of plants with work, and that's what I
think we've all done.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah. So you started there as a kid, and you've
worked through a lot of nurseries, garden centers, and now
you're at EHR selling plants, buying and selling plants. You're
kind of in the middle, connecting growers and garden centers
with the plants and other materials they need.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's exactly right. We're I work for a broker company
now last fourteen years, and we get to work with
all the awesome nurseries and garden centers production facilities and
help them get material they need to support their business.
So it's exactly like you said, we are kind of
in the middle, but we were responsible for all that

(03:20):
product coming in, whether it's starter plant material, seedlings, vegetative liners,
things like that, all the way to full sized trees
from Oregon and things like that. So yeah, it's really
amazing the amount of product that goes back and forth
across the country. And all around the world really to
make it happen.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, So between the two of you, with Pat's garden
center experience and now as a salesperson serving like Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Pennsylvania,
now Michigan selling plants to garden centers, and between the
two of you a mass amount of plant knowledge and

(04:01):
that's what we're going to focus on today. And we're
hoping callers will call in with their plant questions. You know,
what's great a great plant? What do I need to
do to grow this plant? All of it? So, yeah,
if you have questions, we'll take them. Eight hundred and
eighty two, three eighty two fifty five.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
The big thing with plants is everything changes all the time. Yeah,
so you have to keep up with it. There are
new varieties coming out all the time. There are things
that we were growing thirty years twenty years ago, ten
years ago that aren't around anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Some of them were great plants, yes they were.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
There are some things that have been around for ever
since I've been doing this, so they're still there because
it's just just a really good variety and haven't been bested.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, you know, there's still the top dog.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But you've got to keep up with all the research
and everything that's out there, because there's always something new
coming out, and that's a hard part coming down the pike.
There's also a lot of new diseases and problems that yeah,
some of these plants.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So yeah, and like I said, well, if you got
questions about all of that, we'll take them. I got
to hard questions. It's a hard one. Yeah, yeah, thanks
Jordan and Jordan. More recently, it's just uh, the six
five three degrees of Cincinnati. My sister sold you a house.

(05:21):
She's a real estate agent and you.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
With completely random no idea, was in the middle of
purchasing a house and needed a realtor and she answered
the uh, the automated you know, set up on my
phone where I wanted to get a showing. And she
came in. She and you know, great realtor. We did
the whole deal, and she said, she was, what do

(05:44):
you do? I said, well, I'm in horticulture, and you know,
I kind of work with plants. You probably wouldn't understand.
She was, all, I understand horticulture. My brother's in hort
of culture.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
She is?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
She goes he works at the zoo. Scott, I said,
you're a Scott's sisters. Everybody gives me that reaction. Yeah,
it was quite funny.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
You called me and said, Scott, guess what sad what
you said? I'm with your sister and I stay away
from Yeah. So we are going to talk a lot
about plants today. We're gonna have a little a lot
of fun with that. Why don't we go ahead and

(06:24):
take a break now it's a little early, but we'll
do it, and when we come back, we'll run through
the days of and then we'll jump into our favorite
plants right now and things we should have done last week,
and then we'll dig deep into what's out there, what's cool,
what's new, all the other stuff, just a little bit

(06:44):
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Scott Burlin. We will be back in just a few minutes.
We're here with Pac Reason and Jordan holk Camp talking

(07:06):
plants and taking calls here in town, Nytorp is mostly
a wholesale nursery, but you do two seasons of retail yes,
you're in the thick of the spring season right now.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That goes till when.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
That goes till. With retail, it's open until the end
of June.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
End of June, okay, And.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Any Sunday in June is when they close down for
the summer. They are open year round. As far as
being able to buy plants online, there are a lot
of different resources and things that we offer. Naytorp dot
com has all that information on there.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Fantastic. And then you open again.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Was it September right before Labor Day?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Right before Labor Day? Okay? And I'm also here with
Jordan holk Camp from Ehr plant brokerage firm and a
true plant person. Enjoy. I should mention you are instrumental
in the growth of the zoos the Cincinna Zoo and
Botanical Gardens annuals trial trialing program, which has become maybe

(08:11):
arguably the biggest in the country.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Right it's certainly the best.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's certainly the best. Yeah. I think Kirat told me
we have nine hundred varieties, close to nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
It's about Yeah, it changes a little bit every year.
We try to add a little more every year. It's
as much as you can fit in there.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, nine hundred varieties and that's going to be about
sixty thousand actual annual plants that are coming in to
just go on display and trialed around the zoo.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
And they they to give you some news. They're going
to wrap up the last of the planning on Monday.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
All right, including the perennial We have a new perennial
section going in.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm not sure about that. The annuals will be done
on Monday. Perennials maybe a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So yeah, if you have a chance to come to
the Cincinna Zoo and see that, it is spectacular, particularly
during the summer when they're all kicking in.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
And it's just so so awesome to see. To have
that in our area, scott homeowners can go down there
and see what plants actually work the best for their yards.
And that's the trick that everything we're going to talk
about today.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, believe me, you know, they're out there taking pictures
of the labels all the time. They're seeing what they
look like, you know, as a plant, but the ballooms
look like how we have them sighted, whether it's shade sun,
you know. So it's a great service really to to
any homeowner or any gardener.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's nice because you can see what happens to the
plants too each year. Yeah, because every season is different.
You're gonna have really wet seasons, you're gonna have really hot,
dry seasons. Yeah, so you can actually see how those
plants perform, which ones make it, which ones don't. Because
sometimes every now and then there's a failure comes to
plant manufacturing, there's a dud.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, I'll tell you what we do. Remove the duds
so you don't see which one don't. We replace those,
But yeah, we certainly make note of that. We don't
want to draw attention to the bad plants. But we
do have our lists online and everywhere, you know, you
can see them in person. Two the ones that perform
really well, that's online on our websites at saying zoo

(10:17):
dot org, go to gardens recommended plants. It's now time
we need to get to the national days, weeks, months
of And why do we do this. It's because my
life would have no meaning, none if I didn't. So
we're wrapping up May. This is the last week of May.
So I've been talking about the month of May days

(10:40):
for a while, and this is the month of eggs
National egg Month. Correct your pasture month. I've been reading
that all month long and have failed to correct my posture.
Barbeque month, cheese month, no real cool week, National weeks
of this week, so we'll skip to the national days
of It is holding my bucket day. Yep. I don't

(11:04):
know why water a flower day?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Perfect?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, yep, yep. We don't need to water much right now.
We've been just getting the rain over and over, although
we've had now two dry days, so you can't get fooled.
You can think, ah.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
It would we have four inches of rain in one day.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, it's been ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Everybody's been complaining about how much rain we got. But
be careful what you complain about, because this could be
our last one for the season.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, you never know anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Happens every now and then where we go to the
end of May and then nothing until November.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Sunday tomorrow, Did I finish? Yep? Finish today?
Sunday tomorrow, May thirty, first last day of May. National
Macaroon Day. Yeah. Now, I love macaroons, but this bake
treat conspiracy. Now, you guys may not. I've been harping

(11:57):
on this week after week, how many many days of
are based around some kind of baked treat. And you
know there's a cabal out there, some kind of conspiracy
thing going on where the bike industry, the big treat industry,
is controlling the national days.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Of And how do you get a national day?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't know. I want to look into this because
I want to expose what is happening here with the
bake treat industry.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Any industry could create their national day.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, some are better than others, but no, none of
them are better than the bake treat industry. Yeah, it's
pretty amazing in this industry.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's easy to work those bake treats off at this
time of year. Yeah, when they have those in the winter, you.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Get a little blimpy yep. Save your hearing day, you know,
and with all the yard equipment that makes so much noise,
remember your hearing protection. Autonomous vehicle day not for me. Now.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I saw some up at Ridge Manor Nursery in Cleveland.
They actually I had autonomous tractors driving the wagons to
and from the potting barns.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, it was pretty awesome. See, I don't know about
these things.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I GPS they called the mules.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Actually, yeah, thing is if I get if I get
killed in a car accident, I want somebody to blame.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
You know, you don't want a machine on trial?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah? Yeah, speaking complete sentences day, Sure, I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Wow, that would be a tough one for me.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
What you think upon grows Day? Now? I look this
up and it was so esoteric, and it's like, I
don't have time for this, so we'll skip that. Uh,
International or we're talking Monday now, June first, International Children's Day.
It's also Global Day of Parents. Now, why can't they
have two separate days, one for children and one for parents.
It's a fail, you know, a mess up to put

(13:58):
them both on the same day. Give them each their
own little do you know? Global? Let's see here? What
are we also World Milk Day? National Goat Barefoot Day.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I've never seen goats and shoes?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
What I you know, dumb thorns, glass bees, dart I
don't go barefoot very often. Olive Day, okay, say something nice?
Day should not be on a Monday, any other day,
but Monday. To have something nice to say? Day game

(14:38):
should Day. I haven't watched one in years. I have
a garden. Yeah, heim lit Maneuver Day, Flip a coin day,
dare day. Let's get out of your comfort zone. Do
I jump out of an airplane and parachute down to
Earth or not? And it's like, I don't know, flip
a coin, It's flip a coin day, Dinosaur Day. Everybody

(15:00):
he likes dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Who comes up with dinosaur Day?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't know, the National Association of Dinosaur Lovers or Paleontologists. Yeah,
the saved Dinosaur Day people. June second, Tuesday, leave office
early day day. Another failed that should be on a Friday. Yeah,
Retisserie Chicken Day. Oh yeah. Yeah. VW Bug Day. My

(15:26):
first two cars, v W Bug sixty nine red and
then a seventy green. Nice. Yeah, I missed those of them.
They might be Yeah, if I could buy one, you know,
just as on a lark, I might if it comes up.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Big guy, Scott, you fit in that well.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know they're kind of roomy, you know, at least
for the front seat people. Yeah. No heat, no heat,
no heat, no heat at the winter. Yeah, but I
like the stick shift and the smell and you know,
the lack of power. I liked all those. Wednesday June third,
World Bicycle Day, Global Running Day, National Egg Day. So

(16:06):
is National egg Month and National Egg Day? Some redundancy there?
What else? Chocolate Macarundi? I think I already said no.
Remember it was macaroon Day and now it's Chocolate macaroon Day,
Chocolate macaron Day. So you see where I'm going here.
There's yeah, they're taking no chances. They just want to be,

(16:27):
you know, plastered on the media as much as they can.
O Kate, I'm running out of time here. Love conquers
all day. You know what the world needs now, right now,
what the world needs them because it loves yep. Thursday
June fourth, National Cheese Day again, Cheese Day and Cha
Cheese Month. Why, I mean, it's just it's hug a

(16:49):
Cat Day. If you like getting scratched half to death
to hug your cat. KGIAC Day is something you'll need
if you've been scratched half to death by a cat. Finally, Friday,
National Doughnut Day. Now that's a big treat. I can
get behind. Gingerbread Day, Okay, Moonshine Day, start over Day.
If you've made mistakes, come back. You'll be good. And finally,

(17:10):
Hot Air Balloon Day, which if National Children's Day and
National Parenting Day it could be on the same day.
Why not High Transmission vult High Vault Transmission Line Day too. Well,
you're listening, let's garden. We'll be back in just a
couple of minutes. I'm here at Jordan Holk Camp and
Pat Greason, both of them really knowledgeable guys on on

(17:32):
plants across the board, from annuals to trees, and we
do want to take your questions today. The number is
eight hundred eight three eighty two fifty five. Any question
you can hurl at us will take. But in the meantime,
right now, we want to talk about our favorite plants
right now, So Pat, you're up first. What's something that's

(17:55):
really catching your eye?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Some things out there that are looking really good right now. Magnolia's.
I'm surprised at how early we're getting flowers on Magnolia
Grand of Flora and Sweet Bay Grand of Flora's were
in bloom right after Mother's Day. I'll see them my
first sets of flowers, and that's usually a June tree.
It's amazing how quickly they came into flower this year.

(18:18):
Some things that are doing really good in my yard.
So I live in deer country. Yeah, in fact, that's
my state bird out by where I live is deer.
I have got deer all over the place, and I've
also got a lot of dry shade, so I'm almost
all dry shade. Brenera's really good right now. Everybody thinks

(18:40):
of those just for the flowers, but there are so
many good varieties out there just for foliage. Right if
you can't have hossas, because when you plant a hosta,
that's an invitation to deer. Brenara's are one that hold
up to deer. They will go after them eventually if
they get desperate. But there are some really good varieties
out there.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
With a variegated foliage. Yeah, not too long ago.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Even old macrophile. That one comes up from seed, and
I have some nice ones of those. The leaves on
those will get to almost eight ten inches wide.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
And they really set off the flowers which are cool
in the early spring.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
There's very god of the one with the green and
white leaves. But with that white variegation on there all shade,
it cannot see any sun because it it does, it
fries and cooks really easily. Another one that's good with
disease resistance or deer resistance is pulmon area any of
the lungwarts because the foliage on those is another good
substitute for hostess. Yeah, and handles shade really good. A

(19:39):
good series on roses that nobody knows about. A new
series called Flavorette.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, you mentioned that earlier.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Thereby proven winners. So they were Bread and Serbia Eastern Europe.
Their big claim to fame is edible flowers. Nobody thinks
of that, right, nobody knows about that, But everybody thinks
of roses being edible for the hips. But with the Flavorettes,
they were developed for the petals to be used in

(20:08):
salads and in desserts. I did a little research on
that because my customers, whenever I drive them around, always
say I didn't know roses were a thing. Eating roses
was a thing. I did some research and come to
find out that was a big deal back in Roman times.
Just about every meal they were eating rose petals.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I wonder if that had anything to do with the
collapse of the Roman Empire.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Possibly, maybe, you never know. There's two good ones. There's
a paired which is a white The flower buds start
off pink and then developed to a white flower. And
then there's one called honey apricot. The honey apricot looks
has the form of a David Austin rose.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Which is really not the old fashioned type. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I actually popped a couple petals in my mouth just
to see what they were like. They were like eating
a salad green us, just chewing on them and everything.
But interesting about a few seconds after you chew on them,
you get that rose essence on the back of kids.
So yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Can a way to dress up your salads or something else,
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, So it's a really good series, good disease resistance.
But they're a really nice one out by Winners.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Pat on that rose. So does that mean all rose
flowers then are edible?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So more these are the marketing is what's making these
more so, really any rows, any ros expect the flavor,
it said, Uh, anything with good fragrance is going to
be good for eating. The ones that have no fragrance fragrance,
they said, just have a bland taste. So anything that's

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got good, good fragrance to it is going to have
a good flavor to it.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, Jordan, what's on your list?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh gosh, uh, you know, just looking around what's blooming
right now. And there's two ways to pronounce this word,
so tell me which ones is the I call it clematis.
Some people say clement this, so everybody has a correct
on that. Yeah, imatis, right, that's the way. But they
just look amazing. There's so many different colors and varieties

(22:09):
you can choose from with they're just huge flowers right now.
I mean some of them are like serving plate size.
They're just really really nice. The old gold standard is
jackman I and that's just coming into bloom right now.
It's kind of one of the later ones. Yeah, but
that we talked about old fashioned plants that's around forever.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That's classic purple. You see it on mailboxes, absolutely fences.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So they just look amazing right now. They're they're putting
on a real nice show.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know. We had Alan Armitage on three or four
weeks ago and he mentioned and I had this experience myself.
Just plant that underneath your hydrange of peniculata or some
other shrub. It'll grow up through it. You'll never notice it,
you know, until it blooms, and then it's like bam,
it's all throughout, and then when it's done blooming, it
kind of goes away and then your hydrange of peniculata

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comes into blue. So it's great.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I've kind of noticed some years they do better than others. Yeah,
this year seems to be a showstopper for whatever reason,
where last year really wasn't. And most people that grow
perennials know every year they get a little better and
better and better. I guess it was just with our
warm early spring and then all the rain.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Things I'm thinking are affecting some of the flowers right now,
especially on roses and stuff. Is we're like in September
weather right now. We're having these warm days and the
cool nights, right yeah, and plants really respond to that,
and we have not really seen that. Yeah. No, we
usually go to Mother's Day and then we hit ninety degrees, right,
but we haven't had that yet, and I think that

(23:39):
that's heaving. The plants are really responding to that.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, what else you got, Jordan?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Oh gosh, one of my all time favorite plants in
the garden, it is amazing right now is by Julia.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
People know it as little redhead. There's some newer selections
of that coming out in the proven winter line, but
that is one in your garden will just come back
year after year. It's got these amazing orange flowers with
red tips, red with red. It's it's got to be

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number one in my yard right now. Nobody will walk
by it without looking.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's exceptional. It's so easy to grow, I think, from
anything from almost full sun to pretty heavy shade. It's
a native.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Plants by Julia Maryland.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, Indian pink I think is coming.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So many of our native plants are just whites and yellows,
you know.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
But this is just standing one thing that it'll come
bloom right now and it'll put on a good three
week show. You cut it back and it'll do it again,
and you'll get a whole nother show later in the summer.
So I love cut and cut again, cut and come
again perennials without a doubt. Yeah, definitely look at that one.
It's just an awesome I'm.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Looking at the oak leaf hydrantees right now. They are
just knocking knocking things out of the park. I walked
by one called Gatsby Gal yesterday. What a dramatic show
that was putting on, just heavy with bloom.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
And that's somewhat of an underused plant.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You don't see everywhere, and it's a native hydrangea. You'll
see it, you know, natively mostly in the woods.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Is a spinley little things gallow double or is it?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think it's a single, but with just really heavy flower.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Set where the flowers hanging down or were they.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Know, they were standing up right with a really thick kind.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Of gatsby pink came out. That was one of the
problems with that when it kind of flopped oh okay
from a production area where you're growing it when it
was small, it would kind of have a weepy look
to it.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's not the funnest plant to grow in a nursery.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
No, you know. And that's something we can talk about
later on because you guys are in the production end
and the growing end and what it's It's so interesting
how plants often that do so well in the garden
are such a hard thing to grow as yeah, but
as as slow and I think too uh for for

(26:05):
production and a little bit slow in the garden too.
But what you know, a very adaptable native shrub that
you could put again in almost anything from full shade
out to full sun and just a consistent, consistent producer, performer,
really nice.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
A lot of nice sizes too. There's some low growing yeah,
the big ones too.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah. Some of the old ones are huge, getting, you know,
twenty five feet tall around.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, but they're breeding mostly for lower smaller ones. Yeah, munchkins, yeah,
pee wee, psych dwarf, ruby, slippers. I think even stays
a little bit smaller. So, and the arborescents are just
coming into bloom and there's so many nice varieties of those.
We'll get into those next week a little bit more.
What else you got, Pat, Nothing, Jordan.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well, I'll switch it up a little bit and we
can talk about tropicals. Sure, it's definitely a pat of mine.
We get to work with a lot of nurseries down
in Florida that grow the hibiscus and mandevilla you see
at your garden centers and things like that, and one
to pay attention to. I've been working with tropicals for
the last decade trying to find the best ones. And
there's a new hibiscus series out. It's on the market

(27:17):
right now. You find it at almost all your garden centers.
It's the Hollywood high business man. Those are so good
and they just are. They blow the doors off all
the shiny leaves. They didn't Normally when we're shipping hibiscus
into garden centers, we hope it has a flower on
it when it gets there, and they'll go at a
flower and a plant won't sell right garden. So it's

(27:38):
just won't. The hollywoods have come in full of bloom
and they just keep blooming. Might have been through the
all this weather we've had, never stop flower right, and
that's just unheard of.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Mine's a foot tall. I bought one three weeks ago.
It's a foot tall on his three flowers. Yeah, oh,
I knew you would ask this at.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Erica's Sweetheart disco diva is the orange one with.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
The odds This is more of a pink with a that.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Would be first Lady.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, they're beautiful plants.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know that's a lesson for gardeners too, is just
because you go to the garden center and a plant
doesn't have isn't fully loaded with bloom, doesn't mean it's
not going to perform for you really well in the garden.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
So you know, it takes a lot of heat, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Or it just again won't do well in a pot.
And so knowing your plants and what they'll do can
steer you towards some good plants, you know, more so
than just showing up to the garden center and looking
for the prettiest thing.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, so definitely look for those. Another one. I can
tell you they're playing with all these and it's the
age old question. I don't care what garden center, who
you talk to. What's difference between a mandavilla and a dipladinia. Yeah,
and now they're going to confuse it even more because
they're crossing. Now we have blue ones now blue dipladinia really,
and they're taking dipladinias and putting them on trellis's. So

(29:01):
it's like, well that's not right, you know. And now
and now there's another one coming out. You'll see it
next year. Mandevilla fired up Maui Sunrise and it is
a very upright. It's not a vine, it's not a bush,
but it has these giant coral flowers. So look that

(29:21):
one up. That'll be at all.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
The generally speaking, mandevillas are climbers.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Generally speaking, or more of a bush type. All they're
all mandavilla, so Diplo is the subset of types. But
now they're back crossing them. As it turns out, there's
this Japanese breeding company called Suntory and as it turns out,
a fun fact, they actually own Jim Beam Wire.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, a plant breeding company is affiliated with Jim Beam
in Japan. So very interesting. But they're coming out with
all the new varieties and the fun colors. Uh, peach
band Villa's.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, these are great plants, especially for containers.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
They last so long in the garden. They will go
all they'll they'll beat mom season. I mean they'll get
past moms and go all the way to hard frost.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So we got it.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Of a blue is the blue man novilla? Is it
a blue blue or is it.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
They call it blue floria. It's kind of got a
purple tent.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's one of the problems with the plant world as
we get really confused convoluted with some of the colors.
Like a red dogwood, the red dogwood is pink pink.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, tell you what. We got to take a break.
When we come back, we'll talk more great plants. You're
listening to Let's Guard with Scott Berline. I am Scott,
and I am here with Pat Greyson from ATORP Nursery
and with Jordan hold Camp from EHR and we are
talking plants. Two good guys who know plants from top
to bottom, groundcovers to big trees and how to grow them.

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So if you have questions on what to grow and
how to grow it, give us a call. Eight hundred
and eighty three eighty two fifty five. I'll slow that
eight hundred eight two three eighty two fifty five, and
we are We've been talking about some of our favorite
plants right now, and Jordan, you brought up one, uh, eucalyptus.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh yeah, this is a really really neat plant. When
most people think about eucalyptus, they're kind of a well,
they're that got that soft blue color and they're just
kind of bushy, weepy looking plants. But there's a new
one called Eucalyptus sticks. I didn't know what to think
about it. When it's like the river's x y. Yeah, uh,

(31:37):
it's a neat one to keep your eye out for.
This thing has it has what I would call a
central lead and it'll go straight up and in one
season I've seen them get six or seven feet tall,
and they're more like Christmas tree shaped and you can.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Kind of it's more or less an annual.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's an annual from seed, and so in one growing
season from seed it'll get seven feet tall and almost
have a bamboo like cane, a super fast growing plant.
That blue foliage got the blue foliage, but very upright
instead of that weeping.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Time for containers ground or.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Both minor in the ground right now, just because I
wanted the kind of an architectural look to the garden
that I was using them in in a container, I
think they might get too tall and blow your container over. Yeah,
that was all I would be hurt about. But really
neat plants, so keep your eye out for that one.
It's just so neat to see some of these things

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come into the market.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I drove by a favorite plant yesterday, had to stop
and get pictures Aserticum red wings or I think it's
tatar maple. Yeah, I've been passing it for two or
three weeks now and it's almost like it's in bloom.
It has such red green and red, Yeah, green and
red and what's red are the samaras? The wings go.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Way for like a month. Yeah, really long time. We
have one planet in front of landscape office, our landscape
design office, and it's a really nice tree.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
People always ask about deep green foliage. It really sets
off that red samara and a nice form to it.
It's a small maple, won't get too large for your yard.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Some people worry about that being an invasive but I've
never seen it come up.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I was talking about that yesterday.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, but yeah, it's just easy to pull out.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But I've seen where it's close relative acerk andala or
I forget the la comment on that, Oh yeah maple
where that one is seated out really bad.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, that one. I think that's on some people's invasive
list to term.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
No, I don't think so, at least in my experience.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I've shown that one at a couple of trade shows
and people will stop by, what is that? Yeah, they
just for that color. At this time of year, when
you're going into summer.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
And it's a tough tree. You can put up with
a fair amount of shade, a lot of a lot
of dry soil. It can do that. So a really
good one.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I kind of remember when that one first came on
the mark. Okay, probably five or eight years ago. Is
it still popular, pat or people still looking for that?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, because nobody knows about it. That's just one of
those things. Never got add you twenty of them. You
got to struggle to sell them because people are You
have to describe it or have a picture of it
to show them at its peak time what it looks like.
I know Pam Bennett up at Clark County, she got
some from me because she saw them at one of
the trade shows. She's with Ohio State, and she said,

(34:27):
I want to plant those in our little mini arboretum.
So we sent some to her because she thought it
was just a really unusual tree.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Tell you what, will you interrupt the favorite Plants right now?
Because we have Kristin on the line. Christian Kristin, are
you there? I am here, Good morning. How are you
doing today?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I'm fine?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Good. You got a question for us?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I do.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Well? Let her rip well.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I buy a lot of plants that are planted in core.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
And what happens is the core kind of disintegrates and
leaves a lot of a lot of empty space around
the root balls.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
And I'm wondering how to fix that. That's how my experience.
What do you guys, Well, what your.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Core is a substitute they're using for peat moss.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
There's a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
We can have a whole segment on peat moss discussions.
But I'm curious why you're using core And these are
in your like annual containers on your patio you're talking
about or I assume that's what you mean, So I
would switch to regular potting soil. That's my go to.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Well, this is this, this is the These are plants
that I would buy from a nursery like okay, and I.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Would repot them into fresh soil, fresh potting soil or
top soil. I wouldn't rent it off.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Just ye yeah, mix it in with there, just to
compare that a little bit more to get some of
those air pockets out.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, Christian, we're running out of time here. You're certainly welcome.
We're going to head into a break. Just a reminder
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(36:23):
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