Let's Garden HR1 6-20-26

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. It's time for let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm Scott,
manager of Botanical Garden Outreach at the CNAIS Cincenay Zoo
Potanical Garden. Glad to be here. Glad you're here too.
Mark Wessel is with me. At seven fifteen, Paul Kapiello,
the director of Udell Botanical Gardens, will be joining us.

(00:21):
Topic d jore, gardening Tropes, factor of fiction. It will
be a lot of fun. The websites in the works.
Let's see here all the things I'm supposed to tell you.
Check out my blogs on gardenerant dot com and my
columns on Horticulture Magazine by subscribing or looking on the website.

(00:42):
Mark welcome, How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Today, Good morning, Scott. I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Good. We got a lot of rain this week.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh boy, did we ever? We had three and a
half inches at our house and just at Lunkin they
had five and a half.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I got it was four. Oh boy. Yeah, And that's
isn't funny because Lunkin is maybe a mile as the
crew flies, you're probably two, and yet the differences are.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So incredibly localized. And my community garden is even it's
just a stone's throw from Lunkin and it varies there
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, wild night of I mean a lot of storms
one after the other, lightning, thunder, tornadoes actually in the
you know, in Indiana and Kentucky really close by.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, it was funny they didn't early in the
day they there was not much of a prediction of rain.
And then it kept building and unfortunately I had just
tilled some soil to get it ready for planning, and
it just it was like I didn't till at all.
It was so compacted yesterday when I went to plant
some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, at the zoo where we are always are watching
the weather before we till, and if there's any rain
in sight, we uh we cover.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh I know, I wish I would have put some
like landscape fabric over this row.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah. Yeah, we'll talk about landscape fabric later.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
On temporary just for a rain protection.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah. It'll be part of our garden trope discussion, which
I'm really looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I hope we resolve some issues, but we might not.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
We might not. You know, these issues never seem to
go away. What was I gonna say, Mark, I was
going to tell you we're going to start with the
National days of like we always okay, and why do
I do that?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Fill space?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, that too, But because a lot of people and
perhaps our own government have put a lot of work
into putting these things together, and it's the very least
we can do is to read them out.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, you're doing your civic duty, my civic.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Duty, mark And it's also because we're seeking love and affection,
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, And maybe we'll have a national you anyway, will
have a national day one of these days.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, let's get everybody working on that. That would be
pretty cool. Yeah. I don't know how it would go
straight to my head. I know that.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, there's so much already going to your head.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I would be I would be become impossible. So maybe
we shouldn't do that. Let's not do it. Let's not
do it. All right, let's run through the national days
of or the well, the first of all will start
with the month. This is the last time we'll read these,
because it's nearly the end of the month already, all right,
and can you believe it, twenty twenty six is more

(03:19):
than half over.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh for daylight, it's going to be decreasing soon.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Already, Yeah, it just it goes so fast. It does.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
We're getting older quicker.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And that's what old people say, Oh my time is
going by so fast. It's because they're counting the clock.
They're counting the days. That's a little morbid, isn't it.
I could Okay, I'll just get through these Yeah. Yeah,
National Safety Month, and I'll tell this joke for the
last time this month. I've said it four times already.

(03:48):
You know what they say about safety?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, no, what do you know.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You haven't been listening all month, have you?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
No? No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh well, you know, being safe slows you down too much? True, Yeah,
it's a hindrance. It's yeah, it gets right in a way,
and you're like, I'm blowing through this, I don't care
about my protection devices and clothing whatever, and then you
wind up in the er and that really does slow
you down, or in.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Trouble with the HR department.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Even worse. Yeah, it's Men's Health Month, PTSD Awareness Month,
lgbt Q I a pride month, Great Outdoors month, and
your garden does count as the great outdoors?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think right, it does. There's wild world out in
the garden.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, a lot goes on out there. I read once
over fifteen hundred species of insects in the average yard alone.
I don't know where they were measuring.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
That, but wow.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. Candy month, Pollinators Month, speaking of insects, Adopt a
cat month, No thank you. Home Ownership month, which means
what a garden. So get out there, homeowners and garden.
More Iced Tea Month, Heritage Caribbean American Heritage Month, Fruit
and Veggie Month. You're a big fruit and veggie guy.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
That should be just every day there.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Every day of the year. Country Cookie Month, Camping Month,
Migraine and Headache Awareness Month, Zoo and Aquarium Month, Soulfood Month,
Dairy Month, African American Music Month. And I've been saying
this all month. The headwaters of all my favorite music?
Mm yep, quarti a month. Not so much the headwaters

(05:29):
of all my favorite music.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, you have all of Weird Owl's albums, I know
you do?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know? For the I'll go along with that. Yeah,
I have them all. I'm a big fan. Yep, yep,
that's me. Portuguese Heritage Month, Rose month, Give a Bunch
of Balloons Month to pay a month, DJ Month, and
Turkey Lovers Month. Not really any weeks of to speak
up for this last week or two, they just gave
up on it. So, uh, actually that's not true.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
But I got if I could interject, what about Uncle Ao?
Didn't he have an accordion?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yes? You were on his show? Oh several times? Were you?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I think so? Yeah, the same one as it.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Was a big, big deal around Cincinnati. And to tell
you the truth, I never liked that show even as
I mean, okay, it was just too repetitive. I see.
I needed more stimulation. Same thing every day just drove
me insane, still does all right. Saturday today, June twentieth, Okay,
I don't know how to pronounce this national hwaian Aman

(06:34):
month or day. Apparently it's a buttery cake from France,
so it's I guess that's French.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't know if I saw the.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Word O U I G and second word A M
A N.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
N sounds delicious.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It sounds so good. Ice cream soda day, American Eagle Day,
Vanilla milkshake day, hike with a geek day? Of course,
are you get a hike with a jock or with
a geek, which would be with a geek? Right?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, exactly?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, So you can.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Know what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I know.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, his old body.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
She his old body walking along like grunting and doing
squats randomly. Tomorrow Sunday, twenty June twenty first summer begins
about that. Oh, isn't that crazyt That's when when the
day start getting shorter. That's the summer solstice. Yeah. And
it's Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Anne and Samantha Day, which honors Anne Frank and samanthas
Samantha Smith. Do you remember her, Samantha Smith? I do not. So.
When Yuri Andropov was premier of the USSR, he had
that short window where he was like two years she
wrote a letter to him expressing she was a little

(07:55):
ten year old kid expressing fear of nuclear warfare. And
it became kind of a worldwide viral. Wasn't called viral
back then, but kind of a deal. And and uh
and and and so he proposed starting reductions and nuclear
weapons and both the US and the USSR started to

(08:18):
work on that.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, right, your president or dictator a letter.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Especially if you're ten. Uh huh that it will work.
It is sweet, yeah, uh and kind of like it
renewed everybody's faith in humanity alone for a short time anyway. So, uh,
Sunday tomorrow is still Seashell Day, selfie day, go skateboarding
day during National Safety Month, No, no smoothie day and

(08:48):
wag you beef Day and I can't afford regular beef
let alone.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Wag you, I have never really bought wagu.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, we're uh, we need to take a break already. Well,
finish these days up when we come back. You're listening
to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm here with Mark Wessel.
We'll be back. We didn't do the full introduction before,
but you're with your chief horticulturist with Gardens Alive, which
is sort of the umbrella company that owns what Guernese, Brex,

(09:18):
Michigan Bowl, spring Hills, spring Hill.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Those are all our mail order catalog, e commerce, and
we own gardener's supply company. Yes, and as well as
Iley Wholesale nursery.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's crown jewel of it is. Yeah, that's a really.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Good pup when they hear that they do.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And they offer a lot of really really cool conifers
and Japanese maybe.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And you can see them in the nurseries across the country.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And they have this from what I hear because I
haven't been there, but this amazing arboretum or display garden.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It is amazing. Pers It's not huge, but per square
inch it's one of the most beautiful conifer dropping arbor eatoms.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wow, that need them. That's in Boring, Oregon. Boring or Boring. Yeah,
they should just change that name. They should. Yeah, it's
b O R I N G. So it could be
like boring, boring or boring a hole. But you're like,
maybe there was a family name Boring and that's where
it came, right.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It was the Borings that owned that whole town. Yeah,
it was a company. It was a company town who
bore holes. If we're mining anyway, we're going to finish
up these days of mark if over. Yeah, if I
have to, I know, some dramatic thing your mom would say,
If I have to, whatever, We're going to get through
these days of So Monday, June twenty second, National Kissing Day,

(10:45):
I was just wondering, if there are limitations on this page,
I will refrain for the next two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That would be appreciated. So yeah, yeah, onion rings Day,
I love onion rings. I know they're not the most
healthy thing. H VAC Technician Day, Chocolate Eclaire Day, you're talking, definitely,
definitely talking. Tuesday the twenty third National Pink Day, National

(11:12):
Hydration Day, good to remember when you're out there gardening.
Detroit Style Pizza Day, Pecan Pecan Sandy's Day.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I'm telling you, man, I have been digging into
this whole baked treat dominance over the days of and
I am uncovering some scandalous stuff. And I'm going to
do a full report in the next few weeks and
expose Yeah, and you it will be mind blowing. This

(11:43):
is going to change America. Yeah, all right, So Tuesday, okay, Wednesday,
the twenty fourth Take Back Lunch Day. I imagine this.
This came about because of the whole somebody stealing your
lunch out of the company office refrigerator. Oh and it's
like you have like you have to roam the office

(12:05):
looking for the person then take your lunch back.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I can't believe people do that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I know, you don't know whose lunch you're stealing. They
might be the least hygienic person in the on the.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Planet, and I might be hungry at lunch, yeah, or
you don't.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
That lunch could be have been there for months, you know,
you just egg salad sandwich that's been in there. It's
also Pralan's Day, yeah, the whole bait t patch Day,
Parchment Day, and Thursday, the twenty fifth Leon Day marks
six months away from Christmas. Leon is Noel spelled backward

(12:40):
and is marking the day crafters begin planning home made
gifts and decorations for the upcoming holiday season. People that
organized make me. I don't understand them. I think they
are like aliens from another planet or something. Yeah. It's
it's bomb pop Day, Catfish Day, Strawberry parfe Day, and

(13:03):
Handshake Day following National Kissing Day. Yeah. And then Friday
finally take your dog to work Day, which could be
fun or it could get you fired, Coconut Day, Barcoal
Arcode Day, Chocolate Pudding Day, and Beautician's Day. That wraps
them up. See, we've got time to already start to

(13:23):
begin our favorite plants right now. Thing. And here's the
deal on that. It's like without plants, you might have dirt,
you might have old bricks and sticks, you might have rocks,
you might have weeds. You might even have an outdoor kitchen,
but you don't have a garden. So the best plants

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are important. Our favorite plants, it's specially especially our favorite.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yes, our favorites are probably the most important.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't doubt it for a second. So I'll let
you start it off. What is one of.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Your favorite as well, Scott, I'm gonna art off with
yellow loos drife Lysomachia punctata. It's a perennial, a creeping perennial.
It forms a clump about three feet high, and each
stem is covered with yellow flowers for about a month.
I timed it. I took pictures. Every month they get

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a bad wrap. All the lice mookias because they're very aggressive.
They don't really recede. They just spread by rhizomes. Some
of them are more aggressive than others, but you know,
and then there's goose neck loose drife, and many others.
But yeah, yellow loose drife. It's so tough perennial. If
it's in full sun, heavy soil, it doesn't spread too quickly,
but great durable plant.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, I don't know if you gave it to me
or someone else gave me. Some of that and I've
only had it for two years maybe, And actually it's
sort of like my seedbed part of my garden, and
this is the first year it amounted to anything. And
that really filigree, that really fine foliage or have I

(15:02):
got the wrong place.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's a different Oh okay, yeah, this is upright.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You got to give me some of that.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, but oh you have the fine leaf ground cover.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, what's that one?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I know it's become popular exactly, and it does cover
some ground.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh does it? I watch that? But it is really cool.
It is a little tiny yellow flowers, but that foliage.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Is really cool too, kind of Marooney shirt, darker color exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Carras Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. Such, that's
my first one. It is just like a little ground
covery grass, sea looking plants, edges or grass like. Uh.
It it spreads at an even pace. It grows in
pretty heavy shade out into pretty much sun too. But

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I love it because it just it It gets to
right about this time of year and the foliage just
sort of weeps over and it blows with the wind
or the weather, so it just has these almost wave
like sort of look a look to it.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You have a very nice patch of that, that fine foliage.
It's so soft and you just want to roll around
in it.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, a cat did. But the cat we used to
have wed do that a lot. So yeah, that's a minute.
We've got a minute to wrap up this segment. I'm
gonna mention Carrick's ma Showy I the show's saigs too.
We have that at the zoo and that is a
really cool and it's taller maybe almost knee high, and

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just really loose and lax and very very pretty. It's
it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I don't know that one.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, it's a lot of these sedges people were just discovering.
We're going to go take a break. You're listening to
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(17:13):
spring Hill Brecks on several seven any more online catalogs.
We're arrested. We got that break was good for us,
and that was it was nice to have that, right.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was pretty impressed with all those push ups you did. Yeah, carracks, carracks.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yes, we're talking favorite plants right now, our favorite plants
right now. And I wanted to continue with sad just
one more carracks, ribbon Falls, well two more actually, ribbon
Falls and feather Falls. These are really nice, very drapy,
weepy grass like plants that just really add appeal to

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any garden, usually in shade. They're probably best in shade.
Certainly best in shade, I would say. I think ribbon
Falls is more green, and feather Falls has a nice
variegation to it.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, they are beautiful, graceful trailing plants almost Yeah, And
in a pot they're really nice. They just hang down,
you know, a pot for a shady air.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
They are perennial. But and a lot of people are
starting to use perennials and containers, and I hadn't thought
of using it in a container frankly, until you mentioned that.
That's a really good idea. I've got a lot of
good ideas you too. That's why you're here, that is
why I had to come in this morning at five
thirty and express those great ideas.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's why you're here. I'm happy to do it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
What's your favorite next favorite plant?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Ah, bottlebrush buckeye. Oh yeah, it's in bloom right now
all over the Cincinnati region. It's a shrub uh that
gets this just mounding and ever expanding. If a loud
quite big, it can be quite large. This is not
something you plan up against your house. For a few years.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It will look fine, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Then it just starts layering and then it gets these
white bottle brush tapered flowers, and just the little bees.
It's a great pollina. The little bees love it, and
I've seen different swallow tails on it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
The foliage is really nice and then gets a nice
butter or clear yellow and the fall. Yeah, the buck
eyes are beautiful. I don't think people appreciate buckeyes for
just the beauty as an object.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
They are, especially fresh out of the.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Hustle, shiny and slick.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
You're kind of we used to be, you know, shiny
and slick and beautiful. Yeah, yeah, but we've oxidized, just
like an old buck eye.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
As a kid, there was a buckeye tree across the
street from me and in like a graveyard that thanked
my neighborhood to the school. So all the kids were
going through it all all summer long or all winter long,
and we would collect those buck eyes. Every kid would
throw sticks up in a tree and collect all the buckeyes.
And the most fun I think I've ever had is

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that you get a bucket of those, you don't know
what to do with them. Eventually, there was a little
woods behind my house and with a badminton recket, I
would just hit those into the woods. They would fly
a good idea way off in the distance. I bet
that woods is full of buckets.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's a buck I grow.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
But back to the bottle brush, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So oddly it has a really limited range in its
native habit really, I didn't know. Ninety nine point nine
to nine percent of its range is in the state
of Alabama. It creeps into Georgia, and it creeps into
the Panana, Florida, and there's a disjunk population near Columbia,
South Carolina, and that is it. But it has adapted.

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I mean, it's very hard.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's one of those apparently one of those Deep South
plants that truly is hardy much farther north, maybe to Chicago,
I think his own five plant. Yeah, and that's because
that you know, it was only ten or twelve thousand
years ago that right where we are right now was
a sheet of ice and everything got pushed south. And

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then as the ice age retreated, the glaciers retreated, plants gradually.
Some of them gradually worked their way up. Many didn't.
With a large seed like a buckeye, it's not likely
to move very fast, but it retained the hardiness that
it needed when it was much colder down in Alabama. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, all park right now has huge.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Love that planting. Yeah, spring growth too, Yeah, great plant
deer resistant percent definitely. Yeah. I'm going to just mention again,
I know I mentioned it probably two months ago, but
major Wheeler honeysuckle lanisra's semperviruns. It's a native is still
kicking it with flowers.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, those honeysuckles. So some of those finding these cuckles,
they're so floriferous. Yeah, humming birds love them.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's a beautiful deep red that definitely attracts the hummingbirds.
That's a good one. I'm also gonna mention button bush
Cephalanthis occidentalis. Oh yeah, that's coming into bloom right now.
That's a cool Yeah. And those flowers are so cool.
And talk about attracting butterflies. Oh yeah, they're just covered

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with butterflies when they're in bloom. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I first saw that as a kid down in Lake Cumberland.
We didn't travel at all, but my aunt. I went
down with my aunt and uncle. They had a cabin
and when I saw that flower, I was like, holy cow,
this is space age.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, it looks like really buttnik or you know, like
a little satellite. Sugar shack is one you're most likely
to find in garden centers, and it's a good one.
It's a little more compact than the species is and
it gets really good fall color, which I don't think
is typical for the straight species. Grows right out of water.

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I saw it first time at Dale Hollow and it
was in six feet of water.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Dale Hollow, Cumberlands.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah exactly. And uh but it grows perfectly well and
almost any very adaptable. Yeah you mentioned co Robbie, I
want to Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's an underappreciated vegetables.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think you gave me the platform for rutabaga many
months ago, very generous.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So col robbie is a cold crop. You know, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower,
They're all lumped into cold crops and it forms this
ball at the base that all the leaves.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And talk about space age sate exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And most of them, half of them I eat in
the garden. I just peel them right there and eat
them as a snack. They're crispy like a.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah. Yeah. I never knew what to do with one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
And they're more much more refined, no heat like a
turnip or a radish, and they have a great texture.
And what I like about them is there a little
earlier than other cold Okay, so you know I've already
like in this cold season like any other that's a
cool season.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
And then I'll plant you know, you can do succession,
and then I'll plant some for the fall.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah. Yeah, When will you do that? When do you
start planning your winter?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, right now, I've already started. I already started Brussels sprouts.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
They're kind of a long season inside or I started
them inside, okay, so they're still underlights. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And then you know the broccolis and cauliflowers. It'll be
several weeks.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Okay when you put them out, usually.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
In July sometime.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
And by the way, we had that great show, oh
probably a month ago now you and a Jenna uh uh,
which we couldn't take callers for and uh we're going
to set that back up with a vegetable call in
program really soon. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
People are welcome to call in right now.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
They are welcome to call in right now. I wish
they would eight hundred eight two three eighty two fifty
five call us with your favorite plant or even task
that you're doing in the garden right now during this segment.
Then we're going to move on to that really cool
thing about garden tropes, and if you have thoughts about those,
you can call us about that too. We'll have Paul
here and he's gonna be great anyway. Are you done

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with Cole Robbie or I think so.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I think more people should grow it.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, and you've got me excited. I'm gonna move down
to Uh. I don't know, do you say Steakies or Stocky's,
Oh stock Stack Yeah, I don't know. I think Steaky's
s t A C H y S. I've always said stakies,
but other people say other things. I never recognize it
right afore, but Staki's fish and ls or maybe monier

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money money or I M O and I E R I.
I don't know how you say that. But the cult
of our hummelo, which is a peed out off introduction
that's just looking stunning right now. Just a quiet little
plan in the garden, but beautiful blooms, great foliage.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's very dependable. Yeah, and related to lambs.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Here, yeah, the same species or general genus. Yeah, you
wouldn't notice it right at first, but yeah, I'm going
to go to another one because you only gave me five.
So and I have one hundred lily forever Susan. Just
a beautiful seen that at your place. Yeah. The color

(26:25):
was orange and black, all Bengal colors since the Bengals.
Yay burrow, this will be our year. Yeah, but that.
I love lilies, and I know they've gotten very hard
to grow because of the deer problem. But wow, I
mean I have a pretty secure backyard. It's the sort

(26:47):
of fenced, a lot of shrubs around it, not much
deer pressure, if any at all. And so I have
my collection of lilies and between the fragrance and the
beautiful flowers.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah, there's and there's a lot of diversity in lilies.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So some of those orient pet the cross between the
Orientals and the Asiatics.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, get those.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Humongous they're tall and big flowers and fragrant. Yeah, but
all a species. It's a great group of plants.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
A little bit hard to work into some gardens, but
if you can, man, the reward is huge. The flowers
are big, trumpets, extremely fragrant. That fragrance just in the evening,
it just permeans a garden it.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, do you ever have a problem with that lily bug?
I've heard all about it, and people have terrible problems
with it, but I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not until you brought it up. I'm sure that's gonna
cause it to happen in my garden.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I'll bring somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, uh, you said chickory, chickory.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, it's it's a weedy thing along the roadside and
it evens for part of the day. Those sky blue
flowers just a beautiful color. I think if you could
have more perennials in that color, it's a good you know,
you can eat it. The new leaves like dandelion, greens
substituted for coffee or added to coffee something. Yeah. Yeah,
the New Orleans the aola has you know, they say

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it has some chickory rooted.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
If they could tame that roadside weed and just make
it like a nice smaller plant, that would be really
something to think about. It though it is kind of well, yeah,
a little bit of it.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
There are many cultivated varieties that you grow in your
vegetable garden. Italian dandelion. It looks just like a dandelion,
and all the the like Belgian and dive and radicchio.
Those kind of.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Thanks you.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
They're all chickory relatives.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'll tell you what, Mark, we'll take a break. We'll
take Alan's call when we get back and finish up
on these. Or maybe we'll just blow on past and
go to things you should have done last week. Okay,
whatever you say. Yeah, we'll just kind of wing it.
That's okay. Do here, Yeah you're listening. Let's garden with
Scott Berlin. I'm here with Mark. So we'll take a
break and be back in just a few Mark Wessel

(29:03):
from Gardens a live chief Forrticultures. There's more, but I've
limited on time. Yeah, yeah, we do have a caller
of mark. His name is Alan Alan. What is your question?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Hey, I guess my question is, growing up in Indiana,
why do you call it coal coal rabbi?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Or we used to call it, well, everybody I know
calls it coll a rabbi, coll a rabbi. Oh, and
we would, we would peel it and slice it and
salt it, and we loved it. And yeah, we we
couldn't get enough.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And I think my grandma even figured out if you
took a broccoli stalk and you peeled it and put
it into spears, it tasted similar.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's very similar. And you just ate it
fresh raw correct with the salt on it.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah. Yeah, we ate it fresh with with salt, and
my family we can't get it off of it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, I don't know about the pronunciation.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I think you've been saying it wrong all along.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
But yeah, and we used to call it robbie.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah that's what I've always heard.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, so I know it has I think it
has German roots or something.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I just don't know that in Germans very war language. Yeah,
but yeah, you guys have me excited about this. I
need to try that. It sounds like I know my
aunt has always grown it and she really likes it.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah. And the broccoli stems, which often get pitched, are
it's a good way to.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Use them, and you know that spear them like celery.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well, you know, I whatever I'm I'll just often just
cub it and neat it raw.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I never thought peel it. The peel is kind of tough.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I have to eat more vegetables. You should.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know what else we used to eat and I
still eat it is the cabbage core. Oh it's not
quite as delicate as cole Robbie. Yeah, but I put
a little salt on that and it's crunchy delicious.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Another thing I've never tried and should so we lost, Alan, Alan,
thank you for your call. That was a great comment.
Life is interesting and good, all the diversity and all
the different things that people do. It's part of gardening,
isn't it. It's all the interesting angles there are. I

(31:29):
got to mention Hydrangea. Back to favorite plants right now,
I've got to mention hydrange arborescence has halo. I meant
to look into the background on this and I never
got around to it. But I think it's it's probably
a newer cult of art. I'm not even sure, but
we have it at the zoo. I hadn't heard of
it at least until fairly recent We have it at

(31:50):
the zoo, and I know other people who have it
at home, and it's it's not the flowers are smaller
than bell and it's white like more like the species,
but they're bigger. The flowers are bigger than the species.
But it's just a big, vigorous plant, never flops, great foliage,

(32:13):
and the flowers draw pollinators for from miles.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
It is.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
It's you look at the and all the arborescens are
kind of that way, but that one in particular, it's
just covered with all kinds, especially little bees and flies
are really effective pollinators, the ones you went in your
garden of beneficials frankly and yeah, good plant.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, we've had that out at the research farm and
it was always a popular hydrangea. Yeah, and how that
one do for in the Mount Cuba trill wasn't that way.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I think it got really highly radied. But yeah, I
don't remember exactly what it rated at, but yeah, very well.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, and that's not the only hydrangea doing well right now.
The oak leaves are.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Correct killing it again. Probably a month of bloom so far.
That's one thing we didn't mention about bottle brush buck
eye is the length of bloom is good three weeks. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
The flower individual flowers are kind of delicate a last night,
but you know, you keep getting spikes for several.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
If you really like that plant, you can get the
cultivar rogers, which picks up bloom when the regular species stops, yeah,
and carries it on for another Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And doesn't It has a lot longer in fluorescence.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
It tends to hang down and then dip back up
like the juice neck. Yeah. That term comes up a
lot in gardening. Nowhere else, nowhere else? What else? The
great cone flower? I mentioned it last week, but it's
still so cool. Rebeccia maxima.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, that's an interesting plant. Kind of you know that
started becoming popular as I was coming up in horticulture.
It wasn't around like.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
A lot of the native species.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
It was kind of did some designer popularize it in
a book or what.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Could have been? Yeah, or just you know, like all
those a lot of those prairie plants that came in
in a wave that might have been part of that.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, always gets Garner's attention when people see it.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Does it. You know, the foliage alone is is really cool.
But then you throw in this six foot spike that
comes up, might lean but doesn't really ever fly, with
a big black eyed Susan flower on the top, and
then the seed then, well then that's attracting pollinators. And
then the seedhead attracts goldfinches. So a friend of mine

(34:38):
used to say it blooms twice one it blooms. And
then when the goldfinches are a friend or nemesis, Well
it was a friend. Now it's a nemesis. Not really. No,
just lost touch with her. Oh her, I thought he
was talking about Oh no I would Yeah, I don't know.
He is a nemesis.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, and that redbecca probably benefits from other taller things
growing around it.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's exactly what Sarah said last week. Yeah, kind of
something that can lean on. Yeah. I guess we'll wrap
it up with favorite plans. I had more, but uh,
you know, kind of ran out of time because we're
long winded. Get all excited, Okay, yeah, let's move on.
Then we'll move on. So when we come back, we'll
talk about things you should have done last week. I

(35:21):
had a good list prepared. You just scrambled all good.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I didn't need to contribute, right.

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