Things you should have done last week

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thing too. Let's Guarden with Scott Berlin, that Tim, I'm me.
I'm here with John and Jim, two good buddies of mine.
John Butcher from Madison Tree Care. You guys, treat Care
and Landscape. You were just on what two or three
weeks ago something like that. Yeah, yep, you were so good,
so good, I had to bring you right back.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You're welcome. You're welcome. And Jim Hansel our buddy, both
of me and John. We like this guy. And Jim
Hansel kind of a long and different career in horticulture.
You've run nurseries, you taught at a high school and

(00:40):
also at UC University of Cincinnati horticulture classes. You're also
what is an education administrator.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
For assistant director of Teaching and Learning at Grade Oaks
and adjunct faculty at UC.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, and both of them great horticulturists who can answer
any question. And we'll be glad to take your calls.
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(01:19):
with Scott Berline at your favorite podcast horse or at
the iHeart app So as always, we're going to start
today with the national days of months, of weeks of whatever,
because it gives my life meaning at least for the
next ten minutes or so. Nice. Yeah, so I missed

(01:41):
that last week. I forgot that we're starting a new
month June, so we're actually catching up a little bit.
But June, the June is the month of all these things,
National Safety Month. And you know what they say, being
safe slows you down too much.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, that's got to hit you pretty hard. John, for sure,
tree care and all the stuff you're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Is that your approach to safety is that it slows
us down? Absolutely not. Safety's the top priority. If you
don't get that right, everything else falls apart.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
You're right, You're right, take the time to be safe.
I have not always followed that advice, but it's important
and out as I've grown old, older and suffered many injuries,
I agree with that one hundred percent. Learning the hard way,
learning the hard way twice, sometimes three times. Yes, Men's
Health Month, PTSD Awareness Month, LGB two, t QIA Pride

(02:43):
a lot of letters. It seems like they're being at
it all the time. Great Outdoors Month, Candy Month, Pollinators month, Hey,
there you go. Everybody's in horticulture is interested in pollinators.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's a great one.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's a good one. Yeah. Always a point of conversation
on this show. Usually yet at least adopted cat month.
Been there, done that? Home Ownership Month, which means what
garden garden comes with a house? You got a garden? Absolutely.
Iced Tea Month, Caribbean Heritage Sweet just says iced tea

(03:20):
and is it ice tea or iced tea?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think one's a wrapper and the other ones are
drink for sure? Which ones which?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, we'll have to look into that during the break.
That Fruit and Veggie Month, okay, throw your fruits and
vegea and Country Cookie Month. I had the best fried
chicken once on a tow boat, where like towboats have
a chef or a cook, and it's usually a widow

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from the South and cooking is unbelievable and she cooks
all day. There's always food. Where was the towboat it was?
I got on it up at mark Glenn Dam, up
near past Moscow, New Richmond, and got off in Louisville
for a tour. I just I was doing it was
in college. I was doing a documentary on towboats on

(04:12):
the Ohio River, Like, yeah, it was, it was yeah,
we were on the VHS tape. It was or a
quarter inch tape. I forget what it was, but yeah,
it was fun. It was pretty cool. Uh, Camping Month,
Migraine and Headache Awareness Month, and the you know, my
point on that one is fine, the source, who is

(04:33):
it that's causing your headache? You know, and get them
out of your life. Zoo and Aquarium Month. I work
at a zoo. Saw nothing in the company newsletter about it,
but I usually don't read it. And Soul Food Month,
which is right there with Country cooking. It's just very
just very similar. African American Music Month, the headwaters of

(04:55):
nearly all good music. Oddly enough, it's also accordion Month,
which is a weird instrument that can that is a
very important part of some really cool music. And also
poka oh man, do you play the accordions? I do not?
My mom did? Really? Yeah? Wow, yeah, a little facts. Yeah,

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Rose Month, Uh, give a bunch, Give a Rose month, man.
My roses took a hit this. Yeah, roses are hard
to grow around here. Uh, give a bunch of Balloons
Month and say, I might as well call it break
a Kid's Hard month. Half month. It's like kids love
the balloon, they pop, they cry, and the parent tries

(05:39):
to find some life lesson to impart out of the
whole sad situation. It's just not good. Papaya month, DJ month,
I'm a technically a DJ here. Yeah, Turkey Lovers Month.
If I was far from Novembers, they could get it.
Have people thinking about Turkey again. Uh. First and second
weeks of June. CPR Awareness Month, Good Idea, bed Bugs

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Awareness Month, Flag Football Month, Community Health Improvement Week. Oh
these are weeks? Yeah, that's right. Play catch week. That's
always a good thing for our dad to do or
a mom to do with the kid, for God's sake.
Clothes line week.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Wow, like clotheslining people running towards you? Or is it
hanging your clothes on a clothes line?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I would assume question?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, like w w F right, little haul Cogan.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Guess what r I P? Yeah? It's gardening week. Heya,
perfect week to be here. Yeah, and that's why I
had you here. That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
This week or is it catch up?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
No? This is this week?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Actually, this week.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, National League, Little League Week, National Flag Week. Today,
June sixth, Saturday, Play Outside Day, a bubbly day, as
in b bubbly and happy. Okay. Trails Day D Day
was held today.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
What's Trail Day mean? What's that? What's that?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Just about recognizing our national trails. Get out and walk
and hike and bike and see nature. Black Bear Day
which you might find on a trail. Yeah, I wear day,
Apple Sauce Cake Day. You know, the big treat lobby,
big big deal on these things. National Gardening Exercise Day.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So gardening exercise.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think gardening is good exercise. It's sort of light,
unless you know you're picking up heavy, heavy things. It's
not very I don't think it's ever very good for
your cardio, so you gotta kind of do that too.
But it's good to be outside. That's healthy. That's all
those things. Tomorrow, June seventh, Cancer Survivor's Day VCR Day,

(07:44):
that's still around. I yeah, I guess it's sort of retro.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Scott has one somewhere. Yeah, Boone Day to celebrate Dan Boon. Monday,
National Best Friend's Day. Wow, best friends so sweet. Yeah,
it's very nice. And name your poison day. So that's
like choosing the best of the worst. It's like how
you vote, what you eat, what you drink, you know,

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kind of sort of that could be dangerous.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
We celebrate best Friends Day and best poisoned Day.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
To name your poisoned day, it could be pretty bad.
It could lead to trouble. I agree. Yeah, Upsea Daisy
day to remember each day is a gift to carry
on with a smile. Wow, little positivity, Like it doesn't
hurt a thing, does it it? Tuesday? Donald Duck Day?
Strawberry rubarb pie Day?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
What's Donald Duck Day?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Can either do? Either of you? Do the Donald Duck thing?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I have kind of it, but I'm embarrassed to do it.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I'm not gonna go.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Thanks for the try.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I thought you meant wearing a shirt.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh god, that's images. Next okay, next one is Call
your doctor Day? Now? Is this the dumbest thing in
the world? What doctor wants you to randomly call him
to wish him a happy Call your doctor Day?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think we should do that. Just flood the flood
the phone lines with thank you doctor.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're gonna get charged and insurance will not cover, not
cover earl day, So celebrate the earls in your life.
Earl scrugs. That's the only other one to think of
forklift safety day, black cow day, which is a fancy
way of saying root beer flute. I think it's French
egg roll day, Iced tea day, so it's iced team

(09:37):
month and day, the repetitive thing they're taking no chances. Wow,
Herbs and Spices Day, frosted cookie Day, and ballpoint pen day.
And I looked into this a little bit. Nineteen thirty,
Laslow Bureau was watching kids play with marbles in the mud.
Notice that when they trailed off into clean pavement, they

(09:57):
left a trail, and from that he he created the
ballpoint pen. Here are my thoughts on the ballpoint pen. Okay,
so think about how they're made and they get to you.
So oil is pumped from Indonesia, it's sent to China
to make plastic. The plastic is made into all the
parts of a pen. It is the ink. Wherever they

(10:19):
make ink is put in a big tanker and ship
to the plant squids. You get it off they I'll
get off from squids. And if that tanker ever spills,
it'll blacken in an entire city. So It is then
made in the pens, which are taking my train to
a port, and trucks and whatever put on a ship

(10:40):
come to the United States. From there, I say, it's
Los Angeles. From there, they're put on a train and
sent to Chicago. They're put on a truck come to
Cincinnati in our case, and from there, like the big warehouse,
they're distributed to Walmart, let's say. And then you go
to Walmart and you buy ten pigpens for a dollar
twenty seven. How is that possible? I don't know. I

(11:03):
thought we were supposed to be payper with society by now. Well,
we're not getting any closer. It's possible, but we don't do.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It, and printer Ink is still a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, exactly right, exactly Thursday, Making Life Beautiful Day, German
Chocolate Cake Day, Nurses Assistant Day, and Corn on the
Cob Day maybe a little bit early. Yeah, you know,
if you could get it brought up from Mexico, you
can celebrate Corn on the Cob Day. Friday, finally wrapping
it up, National Loving Day, Oh Dear Peanut Butter Cookie Day,

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Jerky Day, Red Rose Day, and Movie Night. I am
running out of time we will go to break, I
will skip the whole thing about the big treat about
for now. I've got some revelations I will share next week.
But we will take a break and when we come back,
we'll talk some of our favorite, very favorite plans. Horticultural illiterati.

(11:55):
John Butcher from Madison Tree Care and Landscape, Yes and yep.
And Jim Hansel from just a Great Hortic Culture, my
home guard from his home garden. Uh. He's also an
administrator at Great Oaks Uh Campuses. Yep, yep, yep. My
favorite part of the show just just arrived, talking plants,

(12:17):
our favorite plants right now, and I am going to
start it off just to set the tone. Speaking of
setting the tone, we were just talking during the break
about how John is always a ray of sunshine, always
finding the positive. That's so nice, so important. See he
even found positive. He wasn't embarrassed. He was like, that's nice,

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put that out there.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I didn't take it as a negative until just now
it just hit me.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh no, it wasn't meant that way. It wasn't meant
that way. Sorry, John. Though I do tend towards the
negative because I just think it's funny. It is National
Friend week. We hear that on his lesson it was
best friend. I like it, thank you, So I'm gonna
launch off. It's not like one of my absolute favorite plants,
but it's a good one, and it's one that's trending.

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Everybody seems to be interested, especially people outside of horticulture. Elderberry,
you know, big native shrub. It's in full bloom right now.
It has edible fruit, not very tasty fruit, but apparently
full of antioxidants. And you can actually eat the flowers.
And talk about a tough shrub. You can just stick

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it anywhere. I literally took branches I had cut off
like quarter inch bigger branches one winter, just stuck them
into soil and every one of them grew.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
That easy, just say eating the flowers? What what?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
How do you?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
How do you eat the flowers of that? I wasn't
aware of this.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Apparently okay, So Mark Wessell was on the show a
few weeks ago and talked about this. You can sort
of infuse them in things to get add flavored, like drinks,
so you don't pull ample shrub and eat like a
deer could. But I again, I don't know how it tastes,
but he talked about making simple syrup out of it

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as bourbon levers. We all three of us, Okay, yeah,
it's potential. And again the berries, I don't know what
I know.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
They make wine from it, wines, jams, jellies and jelly.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah you know. Yeah, when you make jam and jelly
is you're what are you doing? You're taking whatever fruit
you've got and then a bunch of sugar and lemon juice.
And so you can make anything taste good with enough
sugar and lemon juice. Right, It's like kool aid. Yep. So, Jim,
you have a plant in mind, is that right?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I do, not anything special, but just something that caught
my eyes.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I was leaving this morning.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I've got a really nice Annabelle hydrata that's pretty close
to my my front porch, and I think the thing
I like about it right now is the light captures
the night light. The flowers are white, the golden hour, yeah,
gold night light. The night just kind of caps that white,
just pops in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I did something a little different with it this year.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Usually I cut it back to the ground pretty hard,
and I didn't get to that garden task on time
this year and it started leafing out, so I only
cut it back by half. So now it's it's almost
five five and a half feet tall and it's just
covered in white flowers. So I think maybe every other
year I'll cut it back hard and just kind of
see what it does this summer train down.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, I've had one for years and you talk about
the it's one of those white flowers that's truly white, yep,
which is really cool. I have never really pruned mine
back much and it's held up really nice. It's a
little drier than it wants to be there, so yeah,
kind of will sometimes, but I have only one year
did I have kind of a flopping issue.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Let's you know, your point about being dry is a
good I like that as an indicator plant. Yes, So
I try not to water my garden unless it's that
I look for that plant. Maybe there's a couple of
other indicator plants in my garden. It's like, oh, it's
I gotta get some water out there.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, but that's one of them. Johnya, what do you
got in mind?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I've really been enjoying the butterfly weed are in bloom now. Yes,
those are looking really good.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, that's right, but those are.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
In bloom and looking great at the moment. And I
really like the the alium perennials. There's a bunch of
different cultivars of those, millennium one that's really popular, but
there's a bunch that are just fantastic plants. The deer
don't seem to mess with them. It's a nice pop
of color.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
So the the butterfly weed dry hot, sunny, actually great
pollinator attractor and also a host plant for monarchs.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So it goes with the pollinator.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It sure does it. Just you nailed it with that one. Oh,
we are already up against the break. But in the aliums,
let's go ahead, and I mentioned those. Millennium is kind
of rejuvenated the whole idea of of aliums as an
ornamental plant. And it's been followed with probably seven eight

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ten new varieties a little different, pink, some blue, some tall,
some low, all of them easy to grow, full sun,
easy to divide, deerproof. Uh. Just great plants, so easy
to use.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Perline. When we
come back more talk about our favorite plants, right, now
give us a couple of minutes, we'll be right back.
Welcome back. You're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berline,
and I'm here with two good looking and very smart gentlemen,
John Butcher from Madison Try Care and Landscape and Jim Hansel,
and we are available to take your calls and answer

(17:37):
any any question you might have that has anything to
do with horticulture.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Scott's eyes aren't quite as good as they used to be.
I don't think I know.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think he's Yeah, you need to prescription. If you
guys could see what if the listeners could see what
I'm looking at right now, they would be with me.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
We have great faces for radio.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah exactly. No, oh no, no, you guys are being
way too modest. Anyway, we were talking about aliums and
Jim you mentioned that you wanted to talk about a couple.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, there's a couple maybe off the beaten path aliums.
I've got a variety in my.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Garden called arrows that I haven't heard of that.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's a smaller one flowers or light lavender, I don't know,
probably about three to four inches across. And that was
a doer for me this spring. It looked good for
probably about I don't know. It's an earlier blooming when
it lasted about six weeks. It looks like it's gonna
be a really good dried plant. So a friend of
mine was over last weekend and took a few cuttings,

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so she's gonna let me know how well that won.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
That works.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
And the other alum I wanted to mention is aliums
to pay them. It's also a little bit earlier of
a bloomer, white, pure white bloom and you mass that
up about you know, five to seven or maybe even eleven, twelve,
thirteen bulbs, and you just get a really nice show.
It's an early bloomer, but it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
All the aliums are ornamental onions. And what do you
know the common name for stapaid them. I don't know
that common name for that one. Sorry, that's what not
a great Where would you find that? Is that like
a catalog?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, usually it's a catalog Ufortionally, I've never seen.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
That local available. Well, that's the cool thing about aliums
is you can buy a lot of from the bulb catalogs.
You can and you know, buy quite a few for
relatively relatively cheap. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Are these ones that are going to grow taller with
like the big bulb way up high above it.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, that's good question, John. So the stapaidum, the white
alium is a little bit bigger. There's a cultivar called
Mount Everest that's really nice, performs really well. Uh, it's
going to be probably i don't know, thirty inches off
the ground, whereas arrows is only about twelve to eighteen
inches off the ground. And the arrows bulbs are pretty small.
So I'm eager to see what it does. Is the
first year for my guarden, Let's see how much it

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kind of builds up.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
And that's arrows as in bow and arrows E r
O s we are os. Arrows is the goddess of
love corre all right, all right, you gotta have that
in your guard. Absolutely. Yeah. I want to mention a
couple that are little little groundcovers that are really really
nice that don't get a lot of attention, but they should. Uh.

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Sacks of Fragga stolenifera and Vetchiana. I think one is
stolen it for his common name as strawberry pogonia or
mother of thousands. I've never heard that one before, but
and I don't know that there's a common name for vechiana.
These are definitely like catalog type plants, so those sometimes
you'll see stolen it for or strawberry pogunia in garden centers.

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Are you growing that one? I'm growing both, and they're
just fantastic deep shade groundcovers that out compete weeds, you know,
and they stay low, they spread nicely, and uh after
a few years you'll get a little spike with beautiful
little white flowers. Wow. I absolutely love both of them.

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The strawberry pogonia has sort of a fuzzy, almost variegated leaf.
Usually you buy a cultivar or some kind, and it's
definitely a very gated leaf. And then the vecchy E
has kind of got a purple underside, looks a little glossier.
Otherwise they're impossible to tell apart, but they they love
pretty dry shade and they do a really nice job

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just covering the ground. One of them, the vecchy I
vechiana at my house, is actually out competing a carracks. Yeah.
Tough plants and very nice.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Do you have any experience with deer resistance on those.
Have you tested that water?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
No, I have both of them in my backyard, which
is fenced, so I don't know, but they You know,
it seems to me like some of the very lowest
growing plants. The deer don't usually bother they how tall?
How tall are these? The foliage is right on the ground,
so two three inches. Yeah, it's really nice and low. Yeah,
they might not be able to browse it. Sometimes they're

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the way their mouths are right or designed. They're lazy.
I'm sure if they got hungry enough, they gonnat all
your other plans. They're only the tall ones first, and
they don't have to bend over for so much.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Where do you get plants like this at Scott?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think these might be available from uh, you know
gardens or what is it uh plant lights uh? And
other mail order companies like that. But I have seen
strawberry bigunia once in a while in garden. Yeah, so
pretty good. What's your next plant?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
You?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I hate to say this, but I'm kind of into
the gonfrinas right now.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I've got you know, why do you hate to say that?
Annual plant? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm kind of giving some common ones, but I got
added some Gonfrina taller Gonfrina in my garden yesterday actually
one called fireworks.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that's a great standards. This is an annual. It's
an annual, and what's the common on comfering. I think
most people just allow maybe maybe I think most people
I think just called gonfria.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I think the thing that I like about Gonfrina
I used some last summer from the called Poop from
I think from the Ping Pong series, and they're doers. Yeah,
I mean they I had flowers killing frost, not just
a frost. But I like this fireworks because I'm using
annuals a little bit differently. We got we all have
a common friend elmb're grosser out at Diefenbaker Greenhouses and

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you know he's kind of the annual guru and town
and yes, and he's helping me kind of understand wherever
there's a blanks about my garden, just thrown annual in there.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
So I've been filling this space with this gonfrina. So
it's got like an underplanting of newer plants that I
just put in there. So it's given him a little
bit of shade. I can water a little bit less
and I just got these beautiful purple flowers that will
they'll go to.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Frost continuously and like a lot of annuals, it's producing
flowers from Mother's Day or whenever you put it in
till hard frost yep, and serving pollinators the entire time.
It's an easy way to get that continual bloom in
your garden that pollinators need. Yep. Yeah, I love that
plant yea too. And no shame involved. Yeah, thank you.

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And this isn't about common is rare. This is about
what you're loving right now. So what are you loving
right now? John?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You know this is a little bit of a generic,
widespread thing, But I love the stone crop seed them.
There's just so many different varieties. It's hard to believe
that one of these could be related to the other.
They look so different. Oh the way that they grow,
and there's there's just like one hundred different interesting ones,
and they're you know, have different purposes. A lot of

(24:26):
good groundcovers, some smaller perennials. But I just find that
whole genus so fascinating.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well that's a slippery slope. A one time I had
twenty seven variety can become a collector really fast.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Real scary. Yeah, but they're absolutely worth it. It's funny you
mentioned it being a genus and a lot of differences
in it. The taxonomists have been at work. They blew
it up into seven or eight impossible to remember words
and just unpronounceable, unpronounceable words for like new genuses, genera

(25:04):
out of seed them, and just another reason to loathe
to loathe taxonom it. Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I wasn't even aware. I'm not up to date that
they've done all this change.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I only found out like three weeks ago. Hype. Yeah,
it's just there's still a seed them. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
I know. I I don't have to learn the new
ones because I donly have that many years left to live.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm not gonna waste my say, you know you're getting
old when you're curmudgeting a Latin name change of plant.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'll just outlive this.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think I'm old, though, I do remember my grandmother
always had it. On my mom's side. She would have
these pots with the holes inside and the hens and
chicks hanging, which I don't know why that's so fun
for me, but I just always cared for that plant.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And my grandmother had that too. Yeah, those those are fun.
Call them house leaks, she called that.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And green carpet on the front porch to go with
the chicks.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, for sure. I want to deep dive. Well, not
deep dive because we don't have time for it, but
it is. Lily time is just starting up, and I
love lilies. I am fortunate in that I have a
fenced in backyard and I can grow them without deer pressure.
But talk about just beautiful flowers, whether they're the asiatics, orientals,

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the trumpets, all the different kinds, and almost all of
them are fragrant, or a lot of them are. And
even the tiger lilies they're not usually fragrant, but I
love the way they dangle down.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And do you grow foremost lily? Yeah, nice one. It's
a late bloomer, but it's.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
A good one. Yeah. White. I grow that along with
the regal lily, and I cannot tell why one is
one and the other is the other, though the regal
lilies seem to be bigger and stouter, I think, so.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, Okay, I gotta stalk my foremost lily or steak them.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, that's what I do too. But not with the regals,
which can be six feet tall. Big, big, big trumpet
flowers just perfume the whole yard, especially in the evening.
Really nice plants to have if you can protect them
from deer. I don't know. It seems like lilies have
gone a little out of favor. I don't see them

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as much, probably because of the deer issue. Probably, But
if you can protect them, that's such a rewarding plant. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I want to piggyback on something I saw yesterday and
notice that with your words trumpet, but trumpet vine is
a native vine. They're in bloom right now and I
don't know, it's just so pretty and they bring in
the hummingbirds. And I was sitting at the pool and
looking across at this building that's an old, crummy brick building,
and this trumpet vine's taking over the whole corner.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And that's where you want it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Big orange ballooms all over it. It's so pretty.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
It's a plant. It's so aggressive, not aggressive, rambunctious. That's yeah,
that's a good one. You know it can I don't know,
it can get to whatever size, fifty feet or you know,
up in the trees.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Give a taller pole. I think it'll grow taller.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, you can put it on old barns,
neighbor sheds.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Need to be careful where you use it, for surely
there's there's something there.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
A lot of people have bigger yards where they can
put something like this, and they definitely should consider it.
It's a native vine and it serves a lot of
purposes in the landscape, So I.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like it on It's like standing dead timber. I feel
like it's a great place to use it on a
trellis instead of wisteria or one of the other things
that just completely takes over and as much more invasive.
Really like that as an alternative for that.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Got to mention yet again, I think this is like
the sixth week in a row, or fourth or fifth
at least. Spigelia marilandica and the Indian pink. Yeah. Wow,
maybe the most perfect perennial in the world. Yeah, just
a nice clumper, clean foliage, clean foliage, beautiful foliage, beautiful
foliage up to what we just say, just under knee

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high and the flowers like really nothing else, just so
so beautiful, bright red with a yellow center star shaped
little pedals up at the tip everybody should grow it.
I've I posted some pictures on my personal Facebook page
and people are responding out the wazoo. Have you divided

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that plant before? Someone asked me that on my Facebook post,
and I was asking around with other people. It looks
like it would be very hard to divide.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's what I've read that. I just haven't talked to
anyone that ted success with it.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Such a tight clumper. People have told me it seeds around. Oh,
so that inclines me to believe that maybe it's not
that hard from seed. I'm gonna collect them this year
and see what i can do with it. Spread it around.
If you don't mult too heavy, maybe you get lucky.
And you see that a great way to propagate because
it is hard to find. We talked about last week.

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It's a hard one to produce. If you find it,
it's pricey. Yeah, but it's with it. Yeah, it will
live a long time. People argued on my Facebook post
whether it was deer resistant or not. Most came out
that it is deer resistant, but you know how deer are.
They're so weird. They do what they want to do.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, it's edible one day and we'll eat it all
the next.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Right well, and very regional too. One neighborhood you deer
eat something that they don't touch in another neighborhood. It's unbelievable.
How how different palette of different dear group have it is.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's strange. We gotta go to break. We'll do that
right now. When we come back, we'll talk about some
things you should have done last week. Timely tasks in
the garden you're listening to That's Garden with Scott Berlin.
We'll be back in just a couple. Give us a
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Mostly I don't give it because I can't remember it,
but anyway, give us a call. I've got three two

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and a half really smart guys here who can answer
almost any landscape or garden question. Wait a minute, who's
the half would be? I'll claim I'll claim that it would.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Be wrestling be the half.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Let's call who the half is at the end of
the show. All rights how they Yeah, I do have John,
but youer with me from Madison Tree Care Landscape a
great local company regional maybe UH does a lot of
great tree work and also landscape design Care all of that,
all that stuff, all of it.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
You are so welcome. And Jim Hansel a longtime friend,
longtime horticulturest ha done a lot in the industry. Uh,
you were with at least the what was it Ohio
River Grass?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, ran O High River Grass for a few years
with Anna Cooper Birch. Now, yeah, how was a civic
garden center.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I was at the Zoo.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I spent three years, that's right, when I was in college,
undergraduate school.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And uh, uh what was the other company? Oh? Greenfield,
Greenfield Plant for Greenfield Platform. So yeah, been around, taught
uh a lot of high school kids horticulture, and you're at.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Ye taught high school horticulture for about seven years and
I've been at UC for twenty one.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, is a what do they called an adjunct professor
teaching horticulture. Yep. Yeah, So right there, you don't even
need me. These guys can answer whatever question that you
might have. Eight hundred and eighty two three eighty two
fifty five. Let's talk about things we should have done
last week timely tasks in the garden. And I actually

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found some really good ones from online from the Pennsylvania
Horticulture Society. They put this out. I think every month
they put out a task job out. Sally McCabe does
a real good job with this number one Cajur tomatoes.
It's almost too late. Yeah. They took off for me big.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Time, especially those earlier varieties.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, which you really want in your garden. You get
that early tomato.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was such a weird year because it was so
cool for so long that it never really warmed up,
and it felt like things didn't take off, and then
all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It just it was hot and dry, and that got
people thinking put everything out. And then we got the
late frost and it was wet and cool, and so
it's been Yeah, it's been a weird year. People needed
to keep them out of that frost, and if they did,
they're growing like gangbusters right now. Sure. Yeah, need to
be caged, she says the dead head. Yeah yeah, I'm

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not great at that, but it is good for your plants,
and uh you might want to leave. Not do it
with the plants of feed birds really well, but uh,
dead heading right now, all those early bloomers good good,
nice light task. Yeah, I got some dailies are starting
to fire off.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Now I got to go out tonight before I go
in for the evening and just pick off the dead.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah. I always do that with my irises. Yeah, I
just got back this week and the daffodils. You know,
they should be kind of gone by now for most gardeners.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
But yeah, I've got one variety that it seems to
hang on longer than all the other ones in Winston Churchill.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
It's a pure white. Oh it's a double. It's a
late bloomer, is a late blue.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
And the foldage is still perfectly green.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Let's see another one from Sally McKay. Keep a pot
in soil handy ready for gifted plants. That's a brilliant idea. Yeah,
so have your potting soil, keep a little bit of
an available and some pots, and just have your little
potting station. Yep, because invariably somebody's going to give you
a plant. It's probably going to be a fragment with
like a little little little wiver of a root and

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you're gonna need to get that in the pot right away, water,
keep it cared for. I also keep baggies in my
truck with some paper towels, so.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Make hands be careful.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wait, well, oh no, John, you're going in the gutterself.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, plant related, yeah sort of, yeah, but no, uh yeah,
the paper towels so you can moisten it, put it
in the bag, and then whatever piece of plant and
you get whatever, just stick it in there and it
gets you home at least and then you.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Can pot it up.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Take cuttings with that, yeah, bry cuttings too. Yeah, that's
a great way to move plants around.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Absolutely. I should mention John, you're a horticulture student from
the Ohio State Universe. That's accurate. Yeah, yeah, An you
own and run a tree care company. Yep, you are
like a renaissance man. So so talented.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'm busy, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Busy, definitely busy. Panicked. Look you look panicked.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I feel panicked right now. Pinched up.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh, dear Jim. The Chelsea chop you were talking about that.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, it's a good time of the year. I've got
a really nice perennial chrysanthemum, and you know, I just
gave it a chelsea chop last week so that it'll
bloom a little bit lower and look at this fall.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
So the Chelsea chop is named that because the Chelsea
Flower Show is about now. It's like a couple of
weeks ago ago. And what that is is your taller perennials,
the late bloomers that ten, especially the ones that tend
to flop over. You just cut them in half right now. Yep.
It does no harm to the planet, keeps them a
little lower, they'll still bloom, and it helps just keep

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your garden look a little bit more tired. Yep, yep, yep.
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