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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody. Welcome to Let's Garden with Scott Burline. Nice weather
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here in Cincinnati. That's about to change. It's always, always, always,
I'm here with the lovely, the wonderful, the smart, the intelligent,
the wise, the renaissance woman Sarah Geiger Bean.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'll try to live up to that, but no promises.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh you will, you will. I don't know why, but
you will.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm glad you have confidence in me.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Scott, you got it. I am Scott Scott Berline. I
am manager of Botanical Garden. I reach at the Cincinnati
Zoo and Botanical Garden, and I do some writing for
Garden Rant and hort Magazine, and I do this and
this has been fun. We're almost half a year in,
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which is kind of cool. We have a really good
show for you today. I think a little later on,
we've got two incredible horticulturest joining us, Jennifer Smith and
Heather Augustine. They are going to come and we are
going to focus most of our show on five trees,
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five shrubs, five perennials, all our favorites for both beauty
and function. It's a big deal ecological function. It's a
big deal anymore. Getting more out of your plants than
quote unquote just beauty. And this will be a good
opportunity to get into that discussion and come up with
some really really good plants. And I am super excited.
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In the meantime, I'm here with Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, glad to be here, Glad to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You're a landscape designer with Wimberg Landscaping. I am focusing
on pollinator friendly gardens. You are also an Ohio Green
Industry Association Master Landscape Technician to I get that right, Yes, yeah,
which is quite an achievement. You're a Lead Green Associate.
Is that how you describe that?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, it's uh, there's different LEAD certifications and there there's
a main lead certification and the associate is uh, sort
of the entry to the lead and you know, you
get an overview of the projects and learn what.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Remind me what LEAD stands where I cannot.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Gosh, you put me on the spot. I think it's
leadership and environmental and energy design or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, Yeah, so LEAD is about mainly about buildings, but
they're adding a lot about horticulture around the buildings.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, there's there's an element about native plants and functional
landscapes and water management that all that stuff. Yeah, plants
can do that, and green roofs and all of that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That'll fit right into our discussion later on. Yeah, you
are also a beekeeper and a mom. And I'm just
going to hit a couple of news items here. One
is aues. That David Austin, the breeder of many many
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great roses, passed away recently.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, let me see if I can find a date
it was. It's not in this tribute that I found,
but yeah, he died late in July, maybe on July
twenty first. But anyway, he was very innovative in a
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sort of anachronistic way. He took a lot of heirloom
roses which have the unique forms, and across those with
newer oh and in fragrance fragrance, and cross those with
newer roses to come up with these heritage look alike type.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, they still have the good qualities of the old ones.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Great qualities of the old ones and the good qualities
of the new ones and mix them together. And there
must I don't know how many he put out, but
it was.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
A lot, so many, so many, I mean, I get
the David Austin catalog to you know, I'll be honest,
I am not a big rose lover. Uh, just after
working in the field many years. There's there's a lot
of knockout roses out in landscapes that I encountered and
had uh painful interactions with and and I got to
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the point where I was like, I am never going
to have a rose in my home garden. But I
tell you what times it was David Austin. He got
to me. So I ended up planting to David Austin roses.
And they they are nice, Yeah roses. Uh, they're they're
kind of challenging with disease issues and you know, they
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need they need certain conditions. But uh, there's there's just
nothing like a cut rose in a vase. I'm mostly
grown for credit to roses.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You know, there's two that I would consider buying one
are David Austin's and the new disease resistant shrub roses,
which are also out there in plentiful.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Truly, the roses are much better than what they used
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They're better, you know, in their constant with their bloom. Yeah,
you know, so there is a place for him.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm still careful about watering, you know, like there's
just something about wet foliage on a rose that makes
my skin crawl.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's ingrain.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So a couple of weeks ago when you were on
the show, or maybe it was last week, I can't remember.
I can't keep trying. Last week was with Mark Wessel. Okay,
two weeks ago we reported and commented about and laughed
about the Frank's Red Hot Sauce spill on the freeway.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Are you telling me that there's a follow up to that?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
There is a follow up to it, but not what
you expect.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know if I expect anything.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, here it comes. So that was a spill of
forty pounds of Frank's Red Hot sauce. Okay, an Ohio highway.
Within a week later, or within two weeks later, there
was a pickle spill on an Ohio highway. Man, it's
rough out there, it's rough out there. The Pickaway County
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showed boxes, just I mean tons of pickles strewn along
the highway, and.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I guess that's just what we do here.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So the O Dot Ohio Department of Transportation reported no
one was reported injured. Okay, the pickles however, were speared.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
God.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They also claim the incident was quite a pickle and
took hours and hours to clean up.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know I have friends who are writers. Well you're
a writer. I consider you a friend, Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But you know I hung out with writers in college
and everything, and I just have to say, I know
these people, they see that and they just want to
write that story.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, this was a Fox eight article. And I don't
know it doesn't at Cleveland station.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They probably have Google alerts for pickle spills, beehive spills.
That's another situation.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's just ripe for Yeah. It always gets yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, and you know they see it happen and they're
like this, it's my turn, I get to write this one.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, I'm sure they had. There was lots of lass
going on in the writer's room regarding this.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
How they avoid burnout.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Gotta say, you know, this summer, we've got a pretty
good start on a condiment station along Ohio highways.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And with that, all right, ketchup, truck drivers, you are
in danger.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Careless, get reckless. Yeah, Railish drivers coming for you. Yeah,
hit the ditches. And with that, I think we should
go ahead and take a break when we come back,
we'll get into the Let's Days of You're listening to
Let's Garden with Scott Berline, Sarah Geiger Beam and me.
I am Scott Berlin. You're listening to Let's Garden with
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Scott Berlin. And we're going to dig into our national
days of here in just a moment. But before we
do that, we have to introduce a rubber chicken. Oh yeah.
We in talking with Gary Jeff Walker in the studio
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behind us a couple of weeks ago, a longtime great broadcaster.
We determined that a rubber chicken is gold when it
comes to media, television shows, radio shows. Kind of a
long history of a rubber chicken in Cincinnati broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I acquired a rubber chicken. Okay, and can you give
it a squeak? Here you go. I promise that we're
not going to do that very often, if at all.
I mean, it's going to have to be an extreme
situation where we hit the squeak.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, we should put this on the Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We should. When I get a Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The image of it is.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It really it's a terrifying rubber chicken.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's a terrifying and terrified rubber chicken. This is a
chicken in a state of distress.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, that's the best only way to describe that, I think. Yeah,
but we need a name for this chicken. So we
kind of worked on some things. I was trying to
find a name with egg in it or you came
up with Ova, which we both agree is Yeah. So
if you have an idea on what we should call
this good luck, this talisman rubber chicken that we have
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here now and we'll always.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Have here now and this is its quality.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, and like I said, we will keep that to
a minimum. Yeah, it will. Something major has to happen
before we do that. It'll.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But you're saying we might need it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We might need it sometimes. Okay, Yeah, I had another
item and it's gone. Let's just go ahead and jump
into National days of And we do this every week.
Why because it's patriotic?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think? So? It might be?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
What are we here? Oh I got a problem I
have last week. I have last week's No, no, no, okay,
we're gonna We're gonna pass on the national month of
because I beat it up. This is the last weekend.
We don't need to go through the national months, because
it's just been done and done again this week. This
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is the last week of July already.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Good lord, I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't either. We're past We're closer to the end
of this year than to the beginning by quite a bit. Now, okay,
and I don't know how that happened. But anyway, today's
week National Week. Oh yeah, and there's a really good
book by Jim McCormick. I can't remember the title, but
it's written by Jim McCormack.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And there's only one book about moths by Jim McCormack.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
There is, there is if you can find it, if
you're interested, seek it out. It's amazing. Actually, even if
you're not interested, I bet if you start looking at
that book, you become.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I heard him give a talk a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
About moths and fascinating.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'll be honest. When I was looking at the schedule,
that was the talk that I was the least excited about.
It's hard to get excited about moths, but that was
a fascinating talk.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I had no idea more to.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, first of all, they're they're so weird, and yeah,
some of it are so beautiful. But what really struck
me is that there's just so many more of them
than butterflies. Butterflies get all the.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Attention their daytime.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, they're daytime, they're pretty. You know, we all want
butterfly gardens, but who's planning a garden. Well, there's a
lot more moths that you could be feeding with your
plant choices than butterflies.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And you know, we did the lightning bug subject a
couple of weeks ago, and you know, the the the
idea of having less light in your garden, you know,
whether it's security lights or whatever. Yeah, how that really
benefits lightning bugs. But it also benefits moths in a way.
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They need darkness, yes, And you know they're just absolutely fascinating,
some beautiful caterpillars, beautiful moss. Learn more about moths. Get
out there. I saw hit him on here.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I saw milkweed tussick moth on my butterfly weed milk, yeah,
my milkweed. And I was so confused because it was
clearly not a monarch caterpillar. It was very fuzzy, and
I was like, what is eating milkweed that can survive
these toxins? And sure enough, there's a moth. The cats
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were out in the daytime, and you know, there was
there were a ton of them. I mistook it for
a butterfly, but no, it was a moth and the
adult is pretty nondescript. I never would have noticed it,
but the caterpillar was very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know a lot of people would see that on
their plants, or any caterpillar on their plants. I can think,
oh my god, I've got a past.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Always always hesitate before you go and spray anything, find
out what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh, I was delighted to see it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's so much easier to find out what a caterpillar
is anymore. Yeah, to eye naturalist or identifying right apps.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, we it used to be really hard. Bugs are
super hard to identify. There's just so many of them.
But now we have the technology to do that. And
you know, I think in the past, a lot of
people say, oh, it's a bug. I don't want bugs
to get in my house. Well, there's certain bugs that
want to get in your house, and almost none of
them in your garden meet that description. You want to
know about the ones that do, but it doesn't mean
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that you have to hit the other ones.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That is so correct. Your wisdom shines.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All Right, So today, Saturday, July twenty fifth, believe it
or not, National Wine and Cheese Day. Okay, it feels
sort of like a trend that came and went, but
it's a great combination. People just still do it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know, if anyone in France heard you say that
wine and cheese was a trend.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well there anyone in France is probably French.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, I'm just saying you might have to say the
word French and.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're going to have a nation after you.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're going to get hate mail in French. No, and
probably Italian.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'll need to do Google translation, Greek.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And all the languages they speak in Switzerland. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, at least they are a notion away. Yeah, that's
very unlikely they're going to come.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That's my house, that's true.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah. Today also Day of the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I I like cowboys, you know, good luck. I grew
up watching some westerns and you know, love westerns, love
a good cowboy hat. And yeah, you know, I don't
know if I can really pull it off, but I
like the hats and the boots and yeah, I feel
like costume.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But it is a good look, yeah for people who
are authatic with it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I've ventured into the Australian hat territory. But like a
true Western like the double uh what do they call that?
The brim, the double brim and the big swoopy Uh yeah, swoopy. Yeah.
I can't pull that off.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, it looks like I'm trying too hard if I
wear anything like that. Yeah, just isn't me. Hot Fudge
Sunday day today? All right, Yeah, Merry Go Round day.
I would suggest not going going on the Merry Go
Round after you've had a hot fudge Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's important to I.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Can do that. Maybe not all Uh. It is thread
the Needle Day, and it's uh, that's celebrating the term
thread the needle. Oh okay, so the literal meaning of
threading a needle. There's finding a path between two opposing
views threading the needle. It's a billiard move. I did
not know that. But of course it's like.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Going between I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yoga posts, okay. Yeah, And it's also a term used
in sports when people are throwing like a football between
two defenders. They threaded the needle, you know, and scored
a touchdown. Bengals win today is also higher a veteran day.
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Good idea always.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
We will continue with the rest of the week the
Days of when we come back later on shortly, not
very far off. We have two great horticultures joining us.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I am so excited. Jennifer Smith from Wimberg Landscaping here.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah. Well, I am very lucky to work with. Yes, fabulous.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And then Heather are from a professor at sin Say State. Yeah,
and we're going to discuss our top favorite five tree shrubs,
perennials and annuals for both beauty and annual function or
ecological function. So join us for that. Don't go away,
We'll be back in just a few minutes. Ron rothis
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has invited us to post a picture of the chicken
on the in the Garden Facebook page. I we'll do
that during one of these breaks if I can figure
it out before we go back into our national days of.
We do have a caller. It's Scott from Clee's. What
is your question? Scott?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, my friend, I've heard that there was an old
perennial on the air and she had a question and.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm not sure where that was. So it is.
We are continuing with the national days of Tomorrow's Sunday
is July twenty sixth. It's Aunts and Uncle's Day. I
have great aunts and uncles, do you Yeah, me too, Yeah,
I love them. Wonderful Parents' Day. I had a great mom.
I have a great dad.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah you Yeah, I'm very lucky. I have a great family,
big family.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, same here. Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing to have.
It is, and you know, recognize your parents today. Oh
out there somewhere you know, it's National Parents' Day.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Thanks mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Thank you my mom and dad. Also, today is also
or sorry, Sunday Tomorrow is all or nothing day.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And that's always the right approach.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. Well yeah, it allows people to throw caution to
the wind and go for broke, break free of everything
holding you back, and go for broke and probably go broke.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
There's no promises on how well that turns out.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, I would say use caution when throwing caution to
the wind. It just seems like a good idea. I
don't know. He reached an age where it's you know, anyway,
Bagel Fast Day. Tomorrow, Bagel Fest, Bagel Fest.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I like a bagel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Good bagel is great. I like the all everything bagel.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I ate those almost exclusively when I was pregnant
with my son. Now I ate a lot of other
things too, But that was my breakfast.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
That was your breakfast. Yeah, might mean partly why he's
so spicy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's got personality, all right, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Tomorrow is also Disability Independence Day and Coffee Milkshake Day.
And I have never thought about a coffee milkshake before,
but coffee ice cream is pretty darn good, So I
think a coffee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
But Sheino is basically a coffee milkshake.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, and those are good.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Monday, July twenty seventh, Love is kind day, you'd hope. So, yeah,
it seems kind of seems kind of obvious. Yeah, let's
draw attention to it on Monday, especially on a Monday.
Maybe sure, New Jersey Day, Krim Krim brew Lay Day.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a dessert that involves a torch. So
I'm for that.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yes. And you'll recall that I was doing a major
investigation into the baked treats.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh we all remember Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, and and they paid me off. So that's over now, Okay, Yeah,
crim Blay in the baked treat industry. That's so much for.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
America that last time I was on that they paid
you off.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, reminding everybody. Yeah, and so like I just I
would you know, in the past, I would have argued
how this was evil and yeah, conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We're not even going to talk about that today.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, we're going to talk about how great the baked
industry is. Oh, okay, deserving of our love and affection.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What it does is a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Not much that's better than that Scotch Day.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Sure Scotch yep, that would go pretty well with the crimbrewlet.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'd think, I think a little bit on ice after dinner.
Korean War veterans Armistice Day. That was a nasty war.
They deserve Accolaesian commemoration, affection, all those things. Tuesday, July
twenty eighth Milk Chocolate Day and Buffalo Soldiers Day. This
commemorates the first regiment of black soldiers in the US
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Regular Army eighteen sixty six, so that's right after the
Civil War. They were stationed on the frontier and did
a lot, you know, obtaining the West from the United States,
attaining the West, I guess is the best way to
phrase it. They were also instrumental in the Spanish American War. Yeah,
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and eventually the units were integrated. The Black Units were
integrated into the full army in nineteen forty four. Tuesday's
also water park Day and Hepatitis Awareness Day, so maybe
that's yeah, I don't really know. I don't know. Wednesday,
July twenty ninth Chicken wing Day, lipstick Day, and lasagna Day.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Chicken wings and lipstick don't really go all together.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, chicken wings were to create their own lips, yeah, yeah,
and it's all that on your cheek and chin and yeah. Yeah,
they're messy, but so good.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You don't want lipstick on your chicken wing. You don't
want chicken wing on your lipstick, agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, So keep those apart somehow on Wednesday, enjoy both.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, at least four hours.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Why is there a national lipstick Day anyway? Yeah, that's
kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It is weird.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Thursday, July thirtieth cheese cake Day. All right, yeah, Chili
dog Day, So get a chili dog and finish with
a cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I feel like cheesecake. Is better and colder weather though, why,
like right at the end of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's kind of heavy. Yeah, but it's cool.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It is cool, that's true. Maybe more like a shoulder seas.
I just don't like it when they you know, like
like sit out and start to sweat, you know what
I mean? Yeah, like you need it fresh from the refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One of well, it was National Aunts and Uncles Day
whatever day that was today or tomorrow maybe, And one
of my uncles for Christmas makes cheesecake cupcakes for everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Nice. Oh, I have an aunt who is an incredible baker.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Pretty much anything.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
They have somebody in the family you can bake.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thursdays also climb them Mountain Day.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You kind of have to plan ahead for it, but yeah,
I do like climbing mountains or I did.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well, how far away the mountain is yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Or how big? Yeah you know, or how hot it
is or yeah yeah, Father in Law Day, Whistleblower Day
and Support Public Education Day, all those things. And then
finally to round it out Friday, July thirty first National
MutS Day. Nothing. What's are great dogs?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
They are great dogs?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, always a good dog. It's also avocado day, Get
gnarly Day, embrace new ideas and toss out old ways.
Much like surfers challenging waves, great get gnarly Day challenges
us to put gnarliness into everything we do, all right, dude, Yeah, yes,
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that's how I feel. System Administration's appreciation Day. It's a
damn good thing they have a day for that, because
no one would ever appreciate them otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Wait are they Is that the same as getting narly Day?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, it's two different things. Oh it's the same day. Okay,
so you could get gnarly. Yeah, while you appreciate your
system administrator.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, I think system administrators, like, you know, like find
find a way to get narly with system administration. You know,
I don't know what that looks like, but maybe they do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe it could make it fun and something more memorable,
something that's more upfront and center in our lives. Yeah,
you know, I'm sure system administrators are really important.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh well, of course they are.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah. I don't know exactly what they do, but it's important.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think only they know exactly what they do, and.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
They've done a poor job of informing the rest of us,
just ungrateful and because of it, we're unappreciative, thank you,
except for this one day of the year, Friday, July
thirty first, And even then, it's sort of abstract and
we're doing it, but we're not sure why or what
it means or anything like that. So that takes a
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little bit of the wind out of it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Maybe we can celebrate while we're surfing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Being gnarly, right, Yeah, I think we Yeah, National Raspberry Day.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I like raspberries a lot, and I enjoyed growing them.
I've had good success with growing those. And we had
Mark Wessel on several weeks ago and he went into
full detail about how to prune raspberries and blackberries and
it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's yeah, they have kind of their own little way
of growing and.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
There's two different types that require two different types of pruning. Yeah,
and you can you can find that show. I wish
I knew what week it was. If you go back
through Let's Garden with Scott Berline on a podcast source
or on the iHeart app, you can find it and
go back and look at that. And I know he
also put a video on the Gurney's website that explains
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how to pruneberries and blackberries. And that's probably actually better
than listening because of visuals or something.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm such a visual person.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, last, but not least Friday, July thirty first, and
I like this one a lot. Talk in an elevator
day break that awkwardness by making it even more awkward.
I think that sounds great, like a lot of fun,
just casual conversation. Maybe an out of the blue question,
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just say, you know, hey, what floor are you going? No? No,
that's too that's too easy, Like why are you going
to floor six? I worked there? Oh okay, I don't know.
How about just tello, how are you hello? Yeah? Even that.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I know somebody who met his future wife as she
was coming out of an elevator and he heard her say, well,
it was nice to meet you. I hope you have
you know whatever, And he was so struck that she
was that friendly that he ended up asking her out.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But yeah, did they get married?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
They did?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, and had children child, a child, A child? Wow?
All that came yeah from speaking in an elevator.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, I do feel like that really says something about
a person that if by the time you get out
of the elevator, you're saying, well, it was so nice
to meet you. I wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So I totally love awkward humor or creating. I find
humor in awkward situations. Not always, definitely, not always, but
on occasion I will talk to the guy next to
me at the journal at the next urnal and talk
about awkward You know, I can.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Only imagine how much I would hate that.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. I leave it
so so far, I haven't got haven't had, I haven't
been asked out by after asking somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Have you been threatened?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
No, not that either. Yeah, I think people are cut
off guard. When we come back, we will talk about
our favorite plants right now and very soon we will
have Jennifer and Heather join us for discussion on our
top favorite trees, shrubs, perennials and annuals that combine beauty
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and ecological function. And we welcome your calls if you
have favorite plants for ecological function combined with beauty, We'll
be taking calls and talking about all of that when
we come back. Come back. I am here with Sarah
Geiger Beam and it's time for us to talk about
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our favorite plants right now, okay, and I will let
you launch with the first one.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So, you know, this is a very common plant. Everybody
knows it, but I think a lot of people love
it for a reason. Cosmos is yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Good old fashion now you know, it's a cheap old fashion. Annually,
you just buy the seeds and you throw them out there. Yeah,
and it rewards such.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
A satisfying plant.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah. Do you what colors do you like?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
My favorites are the pinks and whites. Yeah, but I
appreciate the oranges too.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah. The pinks and whites fit more easily into a garden. Yeah,
but that orange is such a bright, sunny, right, uplifting color.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It is uplifting. Yes, nothing feels more summary than a
big patch of cosmos. I've grown sensation mix. It's a
classic Seashells is really nice too. It has a curled
leaf to it cupcakes where the leaves are fused and
they look like a cupcake crapper.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, actually familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah. They're really beautiful and the way they catch the
light is really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But yeah, and I love the foliage on them too.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, it's fine. It almost looks like a Marrigle type
foliage sort.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Of, but even lacier. Yeah, yeah, it is refined, yeah,
until it kind of falls apart later in the sea.
But they look great right now.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Right along with that, I'm gonna call out the tall zenyas. Yeah,
you know, the Baneri giant series, Oklahoma types, the tall ones.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I like the tall ones. I like the old ones
and the tall ones too.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah. Again, very easy. You can do them by seed,
very easily. They just, you know, to that sort of
almost English border type garden or a cut garden or
almost anywhere. They just add a dimension and just sunny
colors from colors, and they're great to cut and bring inside.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I can't imagine having a vegetable garden
without zinnias, cosmos, marigolds.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah. They just right into a right in.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
They bring in pollinators. They make it look pretty, they do.
And they're so easy, so.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Easy and so rewarding. Again, you know, what's your next plant?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I have false plumbago.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I had that one a couple of weeks ago or
a week ago.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's blooming right.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Now and it will until October.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, it's just a solid plant.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
This is called the false plumago serratus, the plumbag andoities.
Oh yeah, yeah, I try to impress cops with that
when I'm pulled over it. It's a low growing i'd
say six to eight inch tall, maybe a little taller groundcover.
Spreads really nicely. Yeah, starts blooming in May and continues
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to frost, and it just continuous bloom of this right,
just sky blue flower, which is so nice.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, it's it's small. It's not like something that's going
to knock your socks off, but it's a really good
functional plant for covering the ground. It does well with sun,
it does well with a little shade. Really. The only
the only issues I've seen with it are when people
have put it in an area where it can't spread,
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or they don't really want it to spread, or they
just get tired of the look.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And it's not super aggressive it spreading, but it will spread.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I planted some probably like probably one pot of it.
I'm going back at least twenty years and it is
now sort of covered an area that's like, I don't know,
twenty by thirty. But you know, it allows for other
things to go through it. It's not going to you know,
quash other plants from thriving. So it works well in
(33:27):
the garden bed that I have it in. I just
saw a patch of it in absolute full sun and
it looked a little crispy. Yeah, So I think of
it more as a partial a little bit shade.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah. I wouldn't go full south on it, but I've
seen it do well in east and west exposure.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, okay, and it does pretty good into fairly deep shade.
Not full shade by any means, but yeah, getting deeper
into shade than you think. I'm going to call out
Japanese maples. Yeah, I love them all year round, and
it's easy to forget about them, like for right now,
but they're looking so good. A lot of them still
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have that color, the red or the yellow that they
started the spring with. Sometimes that fades in the green
before you get into this incredible fall color. Yeah, but
everything about the tree is beautiful with the form.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I do love Japanese Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And they're tough.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
People think, oh, it's such a pretty tree. It's a
small tree. It's not that adaptable, but it is. It
can take shade almost full sun or even full sum
with some cultivars with irrigation.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
At my old place, there was one. It was a
red leaf weeping variety and it was western exposure, full
blazing sun. You know, I didn't really water it a
whole lot. It got hit with late frost or late
card freezes and everything, but it's still was just a
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fantastic splant performer. And the character that they develop over
time is wonderful, unbeatable, as long as you don't hedge
clip it.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Or do something, do something to let it be what
it wants to be.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It has the space that it needs to grow in
a natural way, and you prune it in a way
that preserves that natural form instead of trying to hedge
clip it. Ever ever, you will end up with a
piece of art.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
There are I didn't know this. I knew there were many,
but there are over three thousand verified cultivars of Japanese mate.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That actually doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's almost out of control.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
It is out of control. It's been in cultivation since
the eighteen hundreds. Arrived in Britain in eighteen twenty one.
Native to Korea, Japan, China, East Mongolian for Eastern Russia.
Give you some ideas, I think the only thing it
really does not like our constantly wet feet. Yeah, it
does not do well with that. When we come back,
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we'll finish out favorite plants right now, talk about a
few timely tasks, and then we'll jump into our top
favorite plants for beauty and function Function. Then that'll be
with Jennifer Smith and Heather Augustine. Very shortly. Stay tuned,
you'll want to hear all about that. We'll be back
(36:12):
in a minute.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
M
Everybody. Welcome to Let's Garden with Scott Burline. Nice weather
(00:05):
here in Cincinnati. That's about to change. It's always, always, always,
I'm here with the lovely, the wonderful, the smart, the intelligent,
the wise, the renaissance woman Sarah Geiger Bean.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'll try to live up to that, but no promises.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh you will, you will. I don't know why, but
you will.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm glad you have confidence in me.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Scott, you got it. I am Scott Scott Berline. I
am manager of Botanical Garden. I reach at the Cincinnati
Zoo and Botanical Garden, and I do some writing for
Garden Rant and hort Magazine, and I do this and
this has been fun. We're almost half a year in,
(00:51):
which is kind of cool. We have a really good
show for you today. I think a little later on,
we've got two incredible horticulturest joining us, Jennifer Smith and
Heather Augustine. They are going to come and we are
going to focus most of our show on five trees,
(01:14):
five shrubs, five perennials, all our favorites for both beauty
and function. It's a big deal ecological function. It's a
big deal anymore. Getting more out of your plants than
quote unquote just beauty. And this will be a good
opportunity to get into that discussion and come up with
some really really good plants. And I am super excited.
(01:36):
In the meantime, I'm here with Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, glad to be here, Glad to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You're a landscape designer with Wimberg Landscaping. I am focusing
on pollinator friendly gardens. You are also an Ohio Green
Industry Association Master Landscape Technician to I get that right, Yes, yeah,
which is quite an achievement. You're a Lead Green Associate.
Is that how you describe that?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, it's uh, there's different LEAD certifications and there there's
a main lead certification and the associate is uh, sort
of the entry to the lead and you know, you
get an overview of the projects and learn what.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Remind me what LEAD stands where I cannot.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Gosh, you put me on the spot. I think it's
leadership and environmental and energy design or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, Yeah, so LEAD is about mainly about buildings, but
they're adding a lot about horticulture around the buildings.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, there's there's an element about native plants and functional
landscapes and water management that all that stuff. Yeah, plants
can do that, and green roofs and all of that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That'll fit right into our discussion later on. Yeah, you
are also a beekeeper and a mom. And I'm just
going to hit a couple of news items here. One
is aues. That David Austin, the breeder of many many
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great roses, passed away recently.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, let me see if I can find a date
it was. It's not in this tribute that I found,
but yeah, he died late in July, maybe on July
twenty first. But anyway, he was very innovative in a
(03:27):
sort of anachronistic way. He took a lot of heirloom
roses which have the unique forms, and across those with
newer oh and in fragrance fragrance, and cross those with
newer roses to come up with these heritage look alike type.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, they still have the good qualities of the old ones.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Great qualities of the old ones and the good qualities
of the new ones and mix them together. And there
must I don't know how many he put out, but
it was.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
A lot, so many, so many, I mean, I get
the David Austin catalog to you know, I'll be honest,
I am not a big rose lover. Uh, just after
working in the field many years. There's there's a lot
of knockout roses out in landscapes that I encountered and
had uh painful interactions with and and I got to
(04:23):
the point where I was like, I am never going
to have a rose in my home garden. But I
tell you what times it was David Austin. He got
to me. So I ended up planting to David Austin roses.
And they they are nice, Yeah roses. Uh, they're they're
kind of challenging with disease issues and you know, they
(04:45):
need they need certain conditions. But uh, there's there's just
nothing like a cut rose in a vase. I'm mostly
grown for credit to roses.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You know, there's two that I would consider buying one
are David Austin's and the new disease resistant shrub roses,
which are also out there in plentiful.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Truly, the roses are much better than what they used
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They're better, you know, in their constant with their bloom. Yeah,
you know, so there is a place for him.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm still careful about watering, you know, like there's
just something about wet foliage on a rose that makes
my skin crawl.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's ingrain.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So a couple of weeks ago when you were on
the show, or maybe it was last week, I can't remember.
I can't keep trying. Last week was with Mark Wessel. Okay,
two weeks ago we reported and commented about and laughed
about the Frank's Red Hot Sauce spill on the freeway.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Are you telling me that there's a follow up to that?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
There is a follow up to it, but not what
you expect.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know if I expect anything.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, here it comes. So that was a spill of
forty pounds of Frank's Red Hot sauce. Okay, an Ohio highway.
Within a week later, or within two weeks later, there
was a pickle spill on an Ohio highway. Man, it's
rough out there, it's rough out there. The Pickaway County
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showed boxes, just I mean tons of pickles strewn along
the highway, and.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I guess that's just what we do here.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So the O Dot Ohio Department of Transportation reported no
one was reported injured. Okay, the pickles however, were speared.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
God.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They also claim the incident was quite a pickle and
took hours and hours to clean up.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know I have friends who are writers. Well you're
a writer. I consider you a friend, Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But you know I hung out with writers in college
and everything, and I just have to say, I know
these people, they see that and they just want to
write that story.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, this was a Fox eight article. And I don't
know it doesn't at Cleveland station.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They probably have Google alerts for pickle spills, beehive spills.
That's another situation.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's just ripe for Yeah. It always gets yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, and you know they see it happen and they're
like this, it's my turn, I get to write this one.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, I'm sure they had. There was lots of lass
going on in the writer's room regarding this.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
How they avoid burnout.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Gotta say, you know, this summer, we've got a pretty
good start on a condiment station along Ohio highways.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And with that, all right, ketchup, truck drivers, you are
in danger.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Careless, get reckless. Yeah, Railish drivers coming for you. Yeah,
hit the ditches. And with that, I think we should
go ahead and take a break when we come back,
we'll get into the Let's Days of You're listening to
Let's Garden with Scott Berline, Sarah Geiger Beam and me.
I am Scott Berlin. You're listening to Let's Garden with
(08:11):
Scott Berlin. And we're going to dig into our national
days of here in just a moment. But before we
do that, we have to introduce a rubber chicken. Oh yeah.
We in talking with Gary Jeff Walker in the studio
(08:31):
behind us a couple of weeks ago, a longtime great broadcaster.
We determined that a rubber chicken is gold when it
comes to media, television shows, radio shows. Kind of a
long history of a rubber chicken in Cincinnati broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I acquired a rubber chicken. Okay, and can you give
it a squeak? Here you go. I promise that we're
not going to do that very often, if at all.
I mean, it's going to have to be an extreme
situation where we hit the squeak.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, we should put this on the Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We should. When I get a Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The image of it is.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It really it's a terrifying rubber chicken.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's a terrifying and terrified rubber chicken. This is a
chicken in a state of distress.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, that's the best only way to describe that, I think. Yeah,
but we need a name for this chicken. So we
kind of worked on some things. I was trying to
find a name with egg in it or you came
up with Ova, which we both agree is Yeah. So
if you have an idea on what we should call
this good luck, this talisman rubber chicken that we have
(09:46):
here now and we'll always.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Have here now and this is its quality.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, and like I said, we will keep that to
a minimum. Yeah, it will. Something major has to happen
before we do that. It'll.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But you're saying we might need it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We might need it sometimes. Okay, Yeah, I had another
item and it's gone. Let's just go ahead and jump
into National days of And we do this every week.
Why because it's patriotic?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think? So? It might be?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
What are we here? Oh I got a problem I
have last week. I have last week's No, no, no, okay,
we're gonna We're gonna pass on the national month of
because I beat it up. This is the last weekend.
We don't need to go through the national months, because
it's just been done and done again this week. This
(10:44):
is the last week of July already.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Good lord, I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't either. We're past We're closer to the end
of this year than to the beginning by quite a bit. Now, okay,
and I don't know how that happened. But anyway, today's
week National Week. Oh yeah, and there's a really good
book by Jim McCormick. I can't remember the title, but
it's written by Jim McCormack.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And there's only one book about moths by Jim McCormack.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
There is, there is if you can find it, if
you're interested, seek it out. It's amazing. Actually, even if
you're not interested, I bet if you start looking at
that book, you become.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I heard him give a talk a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
About moths and fascinating.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'll be honest. When I was looking at the schedule,
that was the talk that I was the least excited about.
It's hard to get excited about moths, but that was
a fascinating talk.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I had no idea more to.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, first of all, they're they're so weird, and yeah,
some of it are so beautiful. But what really struck
me is that there's just so many more of them
than butterflies. Butterflies get all the.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Attention their daytime.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, they're daytime, they're pretty. You know, we all want
butterfly gardens, but who's planning a garden. Well, there's a
lot more moths that you could be feeding with your
plant choices than butterflies.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And you know, we did the lightning bug subject a
couple of weeks ago, and you know, the the the
idea of having less light in your garden, you know,
whether it's security lights or whatever. Yeah, how that really
benefits lightning bugs. But it also benefits moths in a way.
(12:25):
They need darkness, yes, And you know they're just absolutely fascinating,
some beautiful caterpillars, beautiful moss. Learn more about moths. Get
out there. I saw hit him on here.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I saw milkweed tussick moth on my butterfly weed milk, yeah,
my milkweed. And I was so confused because it was
clearly not a monarch caterpillar. It was very fuzzy, and
I was like, what is eating milkweed that can survive
these toxins? And sure enough, there's a moth. The cats
(13:02):
were out in the daytime, and you know, there was
there were a ton of them. I mistook it for
a butterfly, but no, it was a moth and the
adult is pretty nondescript. I never would have noticed it,
but the caterpillar was very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know a lot of people would see that on
their plants, or any caterpillar on their plants. I can think,
oh my god, I've got a past.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Always always hesitate before you go and spray anything, find
out what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh, I was delighted to see it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's so much easier to find out what a caterpillar
is anymore. Yeah, to eye naturalist or identifying right apps.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, we it used to be really hard. Bugs are
super hard to identify. There's just so many of them.
But now we have the technology to do that. And
you know, I think in the past, a lot of
people say, oh, it's a bug. I don't want bugs
to get in my house. Well, there's certain bugs that
want to get in your house, and almost none of
them in your garden meet that description. You want to
know about the ones that do, but it doesn't mean
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that you have to hit the other ones.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That is so correct. Your wisdom shines.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All Right, So today, Saturday, July twenty fifth, believe it
or not, National Wine and Cheese Day. Okay, it feels
sort of like a trend that came and went, but
it's a great combination. People just still do it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know, if anyone in France heard you say that
wine and cheese was a trend.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well there anyone in France is probably French.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, I'm just saying you might have to say the
word French and.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're going to have a nation after you.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're going to get hate mail in French. No, and
probably Italian.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'll need to do Google translation, Greek.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And all the languages they speak in Switzerland. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, at least they are a notion away. Yeah, that's
very unlikely they're going to come.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That's my house, that's true.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah. Today also Day of the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I I like cowboys, you know, good luck. I grew
up watching some westerns and you know, love westerns, love
a good cowboy hat. And yeah, you know, I don't
know if I can really pull it off, but I
like the hats and the boots and yeah, I feel
like costume.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But it is a good look, yeah for people who
are authatic with it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I've ventured into the Australian hat territory. But like a
true Western like the double uh what do they call that?
The brim, the double brim and the big swoopy Uh yeah, swoopy. Yeah.
I can't pull that off.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, it looks like I'm trying too hard if I
wear anything like that. Yeah, just isn't me. Hot Fudge
Sunday day today? All right, Yeah, Merry Go Round day.
I would suggest not going going on the Merry Go
Round after you've had a hot fudge Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's important to I.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Can do that. Maybe not all Uh. It is thread
the Needle Day, and it's uh, that's celebrating the term
thread the needle. Oh okay, so the literal meaning of
threading a needle. There's finding a path between two opposing
views threading the needle. It's a billiard move. I did
not know that. But of course it's like.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Going between I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yoga posts, okay. Yeah, And it's also a term used
in sports when people are throwing like a football between
two defenders. They threaded the needle, you know, and scored
a touchdown. Bengals win today is also higher a veteran day.
(16:36):
Good idea always.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
We will continue with the rest of the week the
Days of when we come back later on shortly, not
very far off. We have two great horticultures joining us.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I am so excited. Jennifer Smith from Wimberg Landscaping here.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah. Well, I am very lucky to work with. Yes, fabulous.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And then Heather are from a professor at sin Say State. Yeah,
and we're going to discuss our top favorite five tree shrubs,
perennials and annuals for both beauty and annual function or
ecological function. So join us for that. Don't go away,
We'll be back in just a few minutes. Ron rothis
(17:19):
has invited us to post a picture of the chicken
on the in the Garden Facebook page. I we'll do
that during one of these breaks if I can figure
it out before we go back into our national days of.
We do have a caller. It's Scott from Clee's. What
is your question? Scott?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, my friend, I've heard that there was an old
perennial on the air and she had a question and.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm not sure where that was. So it is.
We are continuing with the national days of Tomorrow's Sunday
is July twenty sixth. It's Aunts and Uncle's Day. I
have great aunts and uncles, do you Yeah, me too, Yeah,
I love them. Wonderful Parents' Day. I had a great mom.
I have a great dad.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah you Yeah, I'm very lucky. I have a great family,
big family.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, same here. Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing to have.
It is, and you know, recognize your parents today. Oh
out there somewhere you know, it's National Parents' Day.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Thanks mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Thank you my mom and dad. Also, today is also
or sorry, Sunday Tomorrow is all or nothing day.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And that's always the right approach.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. Well yeah, it allows people to throw caution to
the wind and go for broke, break free of everything
holding you back, and go for broke and probably go broke.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
There's no promises on how well that turns out.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, I would say use caution when throwing caution to
the wind. It just seems like a good idea. I
don't know. He reached an age where it's you know, anyway,
Bagel Fast Day. Tomorrow, Bagel Fest, Bagel Fest.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I like a bagel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Good bagel is great. I like the all everything bagel.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I ate those almost exclusively when I was pregnant
with my son. Now I ate a lot of other
things too, But that was my breakfast.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
That was your breakfast. Yeah, might mean partly why he's
so spicy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's got personality, all right, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Tomorrow is also Disability Independence Day and Coffee Milkshake Day.
And I have never thought about a coffee milkshake before,
but coffee ice cream is pretty darn good, So I
think a coffee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
But Sheino is basically a coffee milkshake.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, and those are good.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Monday, July twenty seventh, Love is kind day, you'd hope. So, yeah,
it seems kind of seems kind of obvious. Yeah, let's
draw attention to it on Monday, especially on a Monday.
Maybe sure, New Jersey Day, Krim Krim brew Lay Day.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a dessert that involves a torch. So
I'm for that.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yes. And you'll recall that I was doing a major
investigation into the baked treats.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh we all remember Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, and and they paid me off. So that's over now, Okay, Yeah,
crim Blay in the baked treat industry. That's so much for.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
America that last time I was on that they paid
you off.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, reminding everybody. Yeah, and so like I just I
would you know, in the past, I would have argued
how this was evil and yeah, conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We're not even going to talk about that today.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, we're going to talk about how great the baked
industry is. Oh, okay, deserving of our love and affection.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What it does is a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Not much that's better than that Scotch Day.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Sure Scotch yep, that would go pretty well with the crimbrewlet.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'd think, I think a little bit on ice after dinner.
Korean War veterans Armistice Day. That was a nasty war.
They deserve Accolaesian commemoration, affection, all those things. Tuesday, July
twenty eighth Milk Chocolate Day and Buffalo Soldiers Day. This
commemorates the first regiment of black soldiers in the US
(21:39):
Regular Army eighteen sixty six, so that's right after the
Civil War. They were stationed on the frontier and did
a lot, you know, obtaining the West from the United States,
attaining the West, I guess is the best way to
phrase it. They were also instrumental in the Spanish American War. Yeah,
(22:01):
and eventually the units were integrated. The Black Units were
integrated into the full army in nineteen forty four. Tuesday's
also water park Day and Hepatitis Awareness Day, so maybe
that's yeah, I don't really know. I don't know. Wednesday,
July twenty ninth Chicken wing Day, lipstick Day, and lasagna Day.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Chicken wings and lipstick don't really go all together.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, chicken wings were to create their own lips, yeah, yeah,
and it's all that on your cheek and chin and yeah. Yeah,
they're messy, but so good.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You don't want lipstick on your chicken wing. You don't
want chicken wing on your lipstick, agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, So keep those apart somehow on Wednesday, enjoy both.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, at least four hours.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Why is there a national lipstick Day anyway? Yeah, that's
kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It is weird.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Thursday, July thirtieth cheese cake Day. All right, yeah, Chili
dog Day, So get a chili dog and finish with
a cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I feel like cheesecake. Is better and colder weather though, why,
like right at the end of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's kind of heavy. Yeah, but it's cool.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It is cool, that's true. Maybe more like a shoulder seas.
I just don't like it when they you know, like
like sit out and start to sweat, you know what
I mean? Yeah, like you need it fresh from the refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One of well, it was National Aunts and Uncles Day
whatever day that was today or tomorrow maybe, And one
of my uncles for Christmas makes cheesecake cupcakes for everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Nice. Oh, I have an aunt who is an incredible baker.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Pretty much anything.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
They have somebody in the family you can bake.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thursdays also climb them Mountain Day.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You kind of have to plan ahead for it, but yeah,
I do like climbing mountains or I did.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well, how far away the mountain is yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Or how big? Yeah you know, or how hot it
is or yeah yeah, Father in Law Day, Whistleblower Day
and Support Public Education Day, all those things. And then
finally to round it out Friday, July thirty first National
MutS Day. Nothing. What's are great dogs?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
They are great dogs?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, always a good dog. It's also avocado day, Get
gnarly Day, embrace new ideas and toss out old ways.
Much like surfers challenging waves, great get gnarly Day challenges
us to put gnarliness into everything we do, all right, dude, Yeah, yes,
(24:55):
that's how I feel. System Administration's appreciation Day. It's a
damn good thing they have a day for that, because
no one would ever appreciate them otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Wait are they Is that the same as getting narly Day?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, it's two different things. Oh it's the same day. Okay,
so you could get gnarly. Yeah, while you appreciate your
system administrator.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, I think system administrators, like, you know, like find
find a way to get narly with system administration. You know,
I don't know what that looks like, but maybe they do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe it could make it fun and something more memorable,
something that's more upfront and center in our lives. Yeah,
you know, I'm sure system administrators are really important.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh well, of course they are.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah. I don't know exactly what they do, but it's important.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think only they know exactly what they do, and.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
They've done a poor job of informing the rest of us,
just ungrateful and because of it, we're unappreciative, thank you,
except for this one day of the year, Friday, July
thirty first, And even then, it's sort of abstract and
we're doing it, but we're not sure why or what
it means or anything like that. So that takes a
(26:04):
little bit of the wind out of it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Maybe we can celebrate while we're surfing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Being gnarly, right, Yeah, I think we Yeah, National Raspberry Day.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I like raspberries a lot, and I enjoyed growing them.
I've had good success with growing those. And we had
Mark Wessel on several weeks ago and he went into
full detail about how to prune raspberries and blackberries and
it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's yeah, they have kind of their own little way
of growing and.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
There's two different types that require two different types of pruning. Yeah,
and you can you can find that show. I wish
I knew what week it was. If you go back
through Let's Garden with Scott Berline on a podcast source
or on the iHeart app, you can find it and
go back and look at that. And I know he
also put a video on the Gurney's website that explains
(27:00):
how to pruneberries and blackberries. And that's probably actually better
than listening because of visuals or something.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm such a visual person.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, last, but not least Friday, July thirty first, and
I like this one a lot. Talk in an elevator
day break that awkwardness by making it even more awkward.
I think that sounds great, like a lot of fun,
just casual conversation. Maybe an out of the blue question,
(27:30):
just say, you know, hey, what floor are you going? No? No,
that's too that's too easy, Like why are you going
to floor six? I worked there? Oh okay, I don't know.
How about just tello, how are you hello? Yeah? Even that.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I know somebody who met his future wife as she
was coming out of an elevator and he heard her say, well,
it was nice to meet you. I hope you have
you know whatever, And he was so struck that she
was that friendly that he ended up asking her out.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But yeah, did they get married?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
They did?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, and had children child, a child, A child? Wow?
All that came yeah from speaking in an elevator.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, I do feel like that really says something about
a person that if by the time you get out
of the elevator, you're saying, well, it was so nice
to meet you. I wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So I totally love awkward humor or creating. I find
humor in awkward situations. Not always, definitely, not always, but
on occasion I will talk to the guy next to
me at the journal at the next urnal and talk
about awkward You know, I can.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Only imagine how much I would hate that.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. I leave it
so so far, I haven't got haven't had, I haven't
been asked out by after asking somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Have you been threatened?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
No, not that either. Yeah, I think people are cut
off guard. When we come back, we will talk about
our favorite plants right now and very soon we will
have Jennifer and Heather join us for discussion on our
top favorite trees, shrubs, perennials and annuals that combine beauty
(29:21):
and ecological function. And we welcome your calls if you
have favorite plants for ecological function combined with beauty, We'll
be taking calls and talking about all of that when
we come back. Come back. I am here with Sarah
Geiger Beam and it's time for us to talk about
(29:42):
our favorite plants right now, okay, and I will let
you launch with the first one.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So, you know, this is a very common plant. Everybody
knows it, but I think a lot of people love
it for a reason. Cosmos is yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Good old fashion now you know, it's a cheap old fashion. Annually,
you just buy the seeds and you throw them out there. Yeah,
and it rewards such.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
A satisfying plant.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah. Do you what colors do you like?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
My favorites are the pinks and whites. Yeah, but I
appreciate the oranges too.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah. The pinks and whites fit more easily into a garden. Yeah,
but that orange is such a bright, sunny, right, uplifting color.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It is uplifting. Yes, nothing feels more summary than a
big patch of cosmos. I've grown sensation mix. It's a
classic Seashells is really nice too. It has a curled
leaf to it cupcakes where the leaves are fused and
they look like a cupcake crapper.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, actually familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah. They're really beautiful and the way they catch the
light is really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But yeah, and I love the foliage on them too.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, it's fine. It almost looks like a Marrigle type
foliage sort.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Of, but even lacier. Yeah, yeah, it is refined, yeah,
until it kind of falls apart later in the sea.
But they look great right now.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Right along with that, I'm gonna call out the tall zenyas. Yeah,
you know, the Baneri giant series, Oklahoma types, the tall ones.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I like the tall ones. I like the old ones
and the tall ones too.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah. Again, very easy. You can do them by seed,
very easily. They just, you know, to that sort of
almost English border type garden or a cut garden or
almost anywhere. They just add a dimension and just sunny
colors from colors, and they're great to cut and bring inside.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I can't imagine having a vegetable garden
without zinnias, cosmos, marigolds.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah. They just right into a right in.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
They bring in pollinators. They make it look pretty, they do.
And they're so easy, so.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Easy and so rewarding. Again, you know, what's your next plant?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I have false plumbago.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I had that one a couple of weeks ago or
a week ago.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's blooming right.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Now and it will until October.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, it's just a solid plant.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
This is called the false plumago serratus, the plumbag andoities.
Oh yeah, yeah, I try to impress cops with that
when I'm pulled over it. It's a low growing i'd
say six to eight inch tall, maybe a little taller groundcover.
Spreads really nicely. Yeah, starts blooming in May and continues
(32:27):
to frost, and it just continuous bloom of this right,
just sky blue flower, which is so nice.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, it's it's small. It's not like something that's going
to knock your socks off, but it's a really good
functional plant for covering the ground. It does well with sun,
it does well with a little shade. Really. The only
the only issues I've seen with it are when people
have put it in an area where it can't spread,
(32:56):
or they don't really want it to spread, or they
just get tired of the look.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And it's not super aggressive it spreading, but it will spread.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I planted some probably like probably one pot of it.
I'm going back at least twenty years and it is
now sort of covered an area that's like, I don't know,
twenty by thirty. But you know, it allows for other
things to go through it. It's not going to you know,
quash other plants from thriving. So it works well in
(33:27):
the garden bed that I have it in. I just
saw a patch of it in absolute full sun and
it looked a little crispy. Yeah, So I think of
it more as a partial a little bit shade.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah. I wouldn't go full south on it, but I've
seen it do well in east and west exposure.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, okay, and it does pretty good into fairly deep shade.
Not full shade by any means, but yeah, getting deeper
into shade than you think. I'm going to call out
Japanese maples. Yeah, I love them all year round, and
it's easy to forget about them, like for right now,
but they're looking so good. A lot of them still
(34:04):
have that color, the red or the yellow that they
started the spring with. Sometimes that fades in the green
before you get into this incredible fall color. Yeah, but
everything about the tree is beautiful with the form.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I do love Japanese Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And they're tough.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
People think, oh, it's such a pretty tree. It's a
small tree. It's not that adaptable, but it is. It
can take shade almost full sun or even full sum
with some cultivars with irrigation.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
At my old place, there was one. It was a
red leaf weeping variety and it was western exposure, full
blazing sun. You know, I didn't really water it a
whole lot. It got hit with late frost or late
card freezes and everything, but it's still was just a
(34:55):
fantastic splant performer. And the character that they develop over
time is wonderful, unbeatable, as long as you don't hedge
clip it.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Or do something, do something to let it be what
it wants to be.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It has the space that it needs to grow in
a natural way, and you prune it in a way
that preserves that natural form instead of trying to hedge
clip it. Ever ever, you will end up with a
piece of art.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
There are I didn't know this. I knew there were many,
but there are over three thousand verified cultivars of Japanese mate.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That actually doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's almost out of control.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
It is out of control. It's been in cultivation since
the eighteen hundreds. Arrived in Britain in eighteen twenty one.
Native to Korea, Japan, China, East Mongolian for Eastern Russia.
Give you some ideas, I think the only thing it
really does not like our constantly wet feet. Yeah, it
does not do well with that. When we come back,
(35:51):
we'll finish out favorite plants right now, talk about a
few timely tasks, and then we'll jump into our top
favorite plants for beauty and function Function. Then that'll be
with Jennifer Smith and Heather Augustine. Very shortly. Stay tuned,
you'll want to hear all about that. We'll be back
(36:12):
in a minute.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
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