What is OOTD Day?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Let's Guarden with Scott Erline. Another show,
another Saturday morning, early, early, early, But I'm here. I
made it. I'm learning that driving to the studio at
five am, actually four thirty am is hard driving. Card driving.
It's like steering is much harder than it is any

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other time of day. It's like I'm looking at the
lines on the side of the road, going, how am
I going to do this?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You forget you got to pay attention to that.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, it's just so much harder. By the way, I'm
here with Paul Kulozar from the Cincinnia Zoo and Botanical
Garden and yeah, I got that wrong, Cincinnati Botanical Garden
and Zoo and Erom Stinger also from the Cincinnati Botanical
Garden and Zoo. So it's an all zoo review today.
How you doing, guys, Oh.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're doing great. I got here just fine.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
No problems here you guys. Steered okay, I steered it fine. Yeah,
I do this every day, well, not this particular drive.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
But you know, I think steering is one of those
things the more you think about it, the worse you are.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't want to think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I honestly, just being on highways. I don't know if
that's just me getting older, but like I'm just almost
a surface roads guy now yeah, me too is more
than a Yeah. So being on the highway with no
one else around is just quite lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
This, this hour of driving is is very pleasant.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, there's no one else on the road. Yeah, So
let's talk about something besides steering.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I thought it was gardening in your lane.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Gardening show, So yeah, today's show is. I think it's
going to be a really really good one. I've got
two good guys here with me, and at seven o'clock,
Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania Horticulture Society is joining us,
and he is top been a lot of play and
a lot of time, garden's gone, a lot of places,

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worked at every famous garden. It seems like pretty amazing.
And now he's with the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society working with
their community gardens. So he's going to talk about that
along with Jerome who does a lot with our the
Zoo's community gardens. Yes, so that'll be a good conversation.
And we're also going to talk probably about seven forty

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five we'll start talking about having to leave your garden
when you move on in.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The emotion a few times.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Might I have two right now doing it right now,
and I know that Andrew's done it. So the emotions
that come with that are big, and we'll talk about
it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
We're just going to cry.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You want to put your MLS number out there.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Just had an inspection yesterday. Hopefully we walked something in here.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Very good, very good, and we'll finish up with something
that could be a lot of fun, probably starting around
eight o'clock, eight thirty, eight fifteen, somewhere in that timeframe.
We'll start talking about songs about plants and gardens and
maybe a few musicians as well. So that could be

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a lot of fun. So get your hands on the
dial to talk about any of those subjects and we'll
take your calls and numbers eight hundred eighty two, three
eighty two fifty five. In the meantime, Paul, tell me
a little bit about yourself, your history, all your your
most worst moments, your personal data.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I grew up in South Bend, Indiana, where I didn't
realize I never appreciated the value of a sandy loam
until you moved away. I went to college and I
was sitting on silty silty clay loams, huh yeah, And
then I realized, Wow, I really miss that sandy sandy soil. Yeah,

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I mean, I know they got to have to water
a lot more there.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
But and eventually you named your first kid sandy loam, right.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah there. I'm sure they're not listening so they won't
appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But and then you eventually landed here on our heavy clays.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, clay Loam's one of the first things I did
when I started gardening here is I went out and
bought a pinch point bar, which is like a heavy
for those who don't know, there's a heavy bar with
a kind of a chisel point to it, like one
inch square tip, and you can lever out stones. I
was getting out four inch thick slabs of kind of

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limestony flaggy, which I hope you used is walls, little
path stuff exactly. And you've got a whole degree from Purdue, yes, sir,
And you've been to what you worked at what was
Indianapolis Museum of.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Art now Newfields on New Fields and the Civic Garden
Center Cincinnati, Spring Grove grove. You worked for a Davy.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Davy for a little while alb I was scouting for
Asian Longhorn Beach.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Sure that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was put a crick in my neck, but and
they got used to it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And now you're what we sort of call curator of labeler,
record keepers potanical garden and zoo.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Getting everything labeled. Try to find everything or when I
find things, try to find it in the records or
get it in the records.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yep. Very important for a botanical garden. Keep those records. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, when you visit the zoo, you will notice the
tremendous amount of labeling and signage everywhere. I think we
label our gardens better than any other garden in the country,
quite honestly. And all of that is thanks to Paul calls.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are Paul are Oh, I'm building on a foundation of
the work of others.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And you're detail oriented, which is so important with that
kind of work.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And you're mean and.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You're mean to lay down the law when you need to.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, I wanted, I haven't done right if you're not.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Now true, you have a degree for as a librarian,
which is a US journalists, but you know there are
a lot of people in horticulture who have degrees and
everything else beside except for.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Culture, so many of us. I'm definitely one of those
side door horticulturists. I went to Ohio Wesleyan University. I'm
from Cincinnati and lived in a few places all around
this great land. But I kind of fumbled my way
into horticulture, into managing a garden center in North Carolina
or North Carolina outside of Asheville in my twenties and

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learned on the job and moved back up here in
twenty seventeen and got on with the zoo and it's
been pretty dreamy ever since.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, and now you're assistant.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Director associator horticulture associator.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, so big role, A new role. Has only been
two or three months.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
New role this year. You know, we have such a
fantastic democratic horticulture department, so you know, I actually sort
of like modernize for the future. It's it is a
bit it is a bit strange, I must say, yeah,
but it's just working with all my friends and learning
on the job every day is just fantastic.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I've always said that, you know, our department is a democracy,
which it really is. I mean, in a lot of ways. Uh,
there's a lot of autonomy. We all help each other.
It's really great. But I always say it's a democracy
until Steve says it is. That would be Steve Folt's,
you know, director of horticulture there for what thirty some
years and just a visionary in a lot of ways,

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really uh converted. Uh well, I mean the zoo was
on its way with the Dave Erlanger. It was moving.
It was definitely a Pottic garden. But Steve has initiated
a lot of things. Yeah he has. He was on
my first show. In fact, I need to get him back. Yep.
So all right, we've done our introductions. I do want
to say that you can follow along on Facebook with

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Ron Roethis and friends if you go to in the
Garden on Facebook. We'll be back just a few minutes.
We'll take a break and when we come back, we'll
talk about the national days.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Of can't wait. All right, We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
There with Paul Cohazar and Jerome Stanger, both cohorts at
the Cincinni Botanical Garden and Zoo. You got at that time,
I got it right, yep, yep. And you know who
started that that was Ron Wilson. God bless him. You know,
I hope he's enjoying his retirement. I'm enjoying doing the show.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Does he listen?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't know, you know, no, I do not know.
If I were him, I would not.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Ron. If you're out there, I give a call, just
you and you can hang up just so we know
you called.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna listen, just
do the show.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I've asked, I mean, I've asked him to be on
the show hopefully someday.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Here excepts he might enjoy sleeping in.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think you know that I would. That's what I
would be doing thirty four years on this on this program,
getting up at six am in the morning or no
more like three in the morning to be here.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's uh, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
He's he really deserves some good Saturday morning sleep. Anyway,
it's time now for what I always do first thing
in the morning or fairly fairly early in the show,
is the National days of. This includes the national month
of and the national week of And why do I
do it tradition because it's important. It's very important that

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we know these things. If we don't know them. How
will we celebrate?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
How will we bring us all together?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
It brings us all together, which is we need a little
something actual to celebrate.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, so I'm starting. You know, it's basically the end
of the month. We'll talk about the month of July.
There's quite a few things here that are pretty cool.
It's fragile X Awareness Awareness Month. Not sure what that means,
Disability Pride Month, Independent Retailer Month, and we do love
our independent garden centers. Go local, Go local. Cell Phone

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Courtesy Month, talk about important.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
When you're in the lobby, silence the phone or take
the call outside please, that's right.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
How about in a movie theater, Oh that's the worst
whow yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Or when you're at a symposium.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
That happens too, or the phone rings. You know they
don't turn off the phone. Yep, very distracting. Contracts Sewing Month,
National contract sewing Month. I don't know what that means.
I didn't bother to look it up. National Hemp Month.
The plant for every occasion, rope fabric and I guess
CBD comes from hemp and it cures everything.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So they say, that's when I heard.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's what they tell you.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Why isn't it in January for everyone? April?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I would think April twentieth, because they're all like.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You're right, yeah, you're right. Anti Boredom Month, Anti Boredom Month.
Just you know, just listen to Let's Garden Wiscott Berline
on podcast on repeat, The problem solved?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Maybe maybe maybe Culinary Arts Month. Okay, I'm gonna run
through a slew of things right here. So it is
National Picnic Month, and what are you going to do
at a picnic grill? It's also a National grilling Month.
What are you going to grill at a picnic?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Ribs? Hot dogs?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's National hot Dog Month. What do you want to
have with your hot dog in Chicago? Or baked beans?
National Baked Beans Month. Some people like a little heat
and there baked beans. So what do you add? Horse
Radish National Horse Radish Month. I'm hitting it all wrong.
I was gonna Seyeah peppers. Just follow along, fellas, just
follow alart. You might like some fruit on your It's

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also National Blueberry and National Peach Month. And for dessert
you might want something National ice cream Month.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Ice Cream, peach and blueberry cobbler.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well planned all the Yeah, there are no other faiths.
What else would you want?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Beer?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's not National Beer Month, but it is be Nice
to Jersey week this first week of July. I like
New Jersey. It gets beat up a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't know why they deserve a slot.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's a little time to they do. They do so
much grief, they take so much grief. And it's a
beautiful state, except for that stretch along A ninety five
there that's pretty rough. But Montclair, I've been there. That's beautiful.
East Rutherford Rutherford really cool. Great, like Irish pub and Rutherford.
When I go to New York, we stay in East Rutherford.

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It's like one hundred and fifty dollars a night. You're
right on the sixty three bus which takes you right
to the Poort Authority for six dollars, and you're you've
got all day in New York. It's a beautiful thing.
I'll take your word. I've not been I'll write it down.
Never been close. Yeah. Uh wildlife firefighter or firefight week
of remember this week also the first week of July.

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Saturday today, June twenty seventh, pts dated awareness a month
or week day, sorry day, Summer's Giving. I don't know
what that is. It's something to do with appreciating summer food.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Summer like Thanksgiving, but summer summer.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Mural day, ice cream cake.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Day, mural like murals on the walls, Murals on the wall.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Know has murial murials.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Got around day, just murals, just murals onion Day, Orange
blossom Day and Jerome.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You were all about that, I think. No, No, I was
real excited about that. Yeah, that would smell wonderful. I've
heard that's smells great. I have never experienced it. National
Sunglasses Day, So look cool in your cheap sunglasses.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
How many pairs of sunglasses do you guys go through,
like in a month. I'm like, and I'm around like.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Five or so, I a hundred.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I have like three pairs sitting around that I've been
around for a long time.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because you're detail oriented, probably, yeah, I'm better.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm better about when I put things down, kind of
making a note in, you know, being aware that I'm
putting it down. I put down a really nice pair
of sunglasses once when I worked at Civic Garden Center. Yeah,
I wore them outside somewhere there and I was in
the shade somewhere I took them off, put them down.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's where you went wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That, yeah, because I don't know what happened to them.
They're still there, probably my wife. Oh yes, so I
felt really terrible.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I go through one pair of sunglasses and one water
bottle a day.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's kind of where I did see. You had a
little like a little stable of new water bottles.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I write my name on them, and then I never
see them.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Biome in bulk.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Shopping for sunglasses every.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Day, all right. Tomorrow Sunday, June twenty eighth Logistics Day,
Alaska Day, Paul Bunyan Day. It's also National Insurance Awareness Day.
And I like good thing they squeeze this into June
because July is Anti boredom month, Foody Day, Tapioca Day,
and Rainier Cherry Day, which I don't think we can

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grow here. It's one of those high fungus type of
cherry trees.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Cherry grown within the shadow of Mount Rainier.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think it does. It's that's where they grow. All
the sweet cherries is up. That way we can grow
sour cherries. They ripen before all the fungus hits all
the fruit, and so you can enjoy sour cherry pie,
which is one of the best. Monday, June twenty ninth,
Camera Day, and I'm thinking real cameras, not your phone, right,
there is a difference.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
True nikons, canons, et cetera, laikahs like you, even people,
some people some real serious. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's Waffle iron Day, which is I guess the day
you're supposed to remember. If you have one, then try
to find it, see if it works. Go buy some
bis quick.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
The cat hair off of it. It won't come off.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, cause you put it away sticky.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Remember this is why you go to waffle house.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
This is why you can get a waffle there. Yeah,
for like two and a half dollars. And you know
the storage space, all the problems, you know, the thing
falling on your head when you try to pull it
out of.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
It, leaning all the crevices of that thing.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh, it's impossible. Monday, the rest of them, Dart's Day,
Almond butter Crunch Day, Tomorrow or Tuesday, the thirtieth oot Day.
Oh oh, t D Day. I don't know what it is.
I didn't look it up. Social Media Day, the day
to show off the food you eat. Get angry troll people,

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meteor watch day. Oh okay, whenever I look for meteors,
I never see them. I know when I'm not looking
for them. There one goes flashing by. We'll finish these
up when we come back from the break. You are
listening to Let's Garden with Scott Perline. I'm here with
Jerome Stanger and Paul Callers are from the Cincinnti Potanical
Gardener Zoo. We'll be back in just a few minutes

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two Cincinni Potanical Gardener Zoo and Paul calls Are. We're
still finishing up these amazing national days of And we
went back and we did a little bit of research.
Day OTD D.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Day needed to have information about that.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, it just was too compelling. We had to go
back and figure this out. It is in fact, National
Outfit of the Day Day Day and uh who today
it's a day dedicated to self expression, confidence and celebrating
your personal style. Now that's on Tuesday, coming up Tuesday.
What are you guys gonna do?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Gonna wear my cargo pants and my green work shirt.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
That is your self expression, that's you. That's my day. Jerome,
you're a little edgy or what are you gonna do?
You're gonna wear a suit.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
To work, you know, I know, it's kind of like
Batman closet. It's just the black Zoo shirt and green
arbor ware pants every day, every day, all day.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Don't have to think about it, just put it on.
It is your identity. At this point, you are just
the zoo guy for work.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, twenty four to seven, you're since you do a
potanical garden.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, you gotta look like you gotta look like you're
the person to ask, Hey, where's the bathroom?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Fi Fiona is a world?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Or where is the botanical garden?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Why can't I see the red pandas.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
All those things?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Where are they?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah? Yeah, because they're shy, very very shy, like all
of us. Yeah, all right to continue. Wednesday is the
start of July July first Creative ice Cream Flavors Day.
Yet more ice cream days in July. Go figure. Uh,
let's see what else. Postal Worker Day US posted stamp

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Day on the same day. I guess today. Yeah, it's
like spin them around you for one. Yeah, you know,
they're making really cool stamps now that nobody uses them.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, it's a shame if you.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Go to the post office and look at the displays.
There are some cool stamps.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's all about collecting these days.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I think it must be, And I wish I was
still collecting when I did it.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I got into it a little bit as a kid.
Now I wish I'd really gotten into it.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, somewhere like in probably the worst possible atmospheric conditions.
I have a stamp collection which has really, I mean
interesting stuff. Grandfather had one. He passed it to me.
He had stamps from the State of Palestine. Oh yeah,
and the states in Europe that no longer exists. So
that was kind of cool. I have to find that.

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No idea where it is.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
They weren't properly collector stamps because they'd already been postmarked.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. My grandmother was a
cleaning lady at Notre Dame, so she would I hope
I don't get in trouble for this. She would troll
the trash cans for cool stamps for us.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh, it would be your antiicts in trouble or just
the stamps, just the stamps, nothing personal, No tearing the
corners off envelopes July versus Ginger Snap Day. Now you know,
as you know, I've been discovering that baked treats have
this unbelievable dominance over the National Days of I've been

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looking into it, investigator. I am turning up stuff that
you would not believe. I am going to expose this
in a few more weeks. Everything that I learned, it's
big money. You know. Ginger snaps are great.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I love them. The bake treats are great, Ginger.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
There's something very ugly going on behind the scenes getting
these all on the National days of.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
If you start coming for bake good, Scott, you're gonna
probably have to for a while.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, you know, I'm against Mother's Day. And that's pretty
courageous right there.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't know if courageous is the right word.
It's stupid, that's probably closer to it.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well, my argument and nothing nothing against mothers, and they
do deserve their day. But it's a joke because that's
the week that everybody buys all their plants at the
garden center and they, you know, they they and so
everybody's garden looks great for Mother's Day week and then
the rest of the year is boring, nothing going on. So,
as I always say, go to the garden center repeatedly

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all year long. Get stuff that's in bloom, then your
garden looks great.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, but that's not the mother's fault.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yes, give them there.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You're you're maligning mothers because people are making poor garden choices.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You mom just wants to a flower.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
You guys are making great points that I had thought
of before.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, just give mom a flower. You're going to reckon
also if you keep this up, because they're going to
be like, and that's coming up, that's they're already trying
to fight the patriarchy. Throwing away Mother's Day. I don't know,
you're not going to work.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Clearly had not thought this through. July second, Thursday, we'll
wrap this up and a set day. That's a liqueur
from the Mediterranean. I think it's French and uh. I
love most of the course. Most of the course. There's
a few, you know, you haven't really digged, but most
of them are really good, great for after dinner. Yeah,
I'm from the sixties. Wild Land wild Land Firefighter Day,

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so the heroes that fight fire. We all know one. Yes, yeah, yeah, Nate,
shout out Nate. Yes, he worked for the zoo. Is
a seasonal uh for a year or two and then
he and this is the most buff guy you have
ever ever seen? No, well, okay, he was pretty fit,
a wiry guy. Maybe not as fit as Hugerame, but

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he was pretty fit. And then he went out west
and fought fires for four or five years, I think.
And the adventures around the lines.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, basically a hot shot.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Some awesome videos, amazing situations.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
He works with Madison.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, that's right. He's a climber, and that makes total sense,
you know, perfect. But I'm sure there are great videos
from people on the front lines fighting wildfire fires out
west and right now they're in Utah and where else
was I saw one that was kind of surprising. But
some bad, bad fires going on right now. Respect Also,
on Thursday, July second, I forgot day. If I forgot

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I forgot day, I am going to be angry. If
I forget that I forgot day on Thursday, I'm going
to be angry. But I will forget it because that's
what I do. I'm the I just have a terrible
min I said a reminder. You're organized, You're a detail guy.
I'm afraid right now you're doing it for me. That's
where I am so I'm learning to organize because to

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compensate for my lack of a brain.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, he probably forgets Mother's Day. That's probably why
so upset about it.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, every year, every year, if there's not one, I
won't forget it.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Finally, wrap up Friday, July third, compliment your mirror Day. No, no,
I'm not. My mirror has done nothing for me lately.
Eat your beans Day, and I'm just going to say,
if you're gonna eat, you might as well grown in
the garden.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, Fried clam Day, Chocolate wafer Day again, a big treat. Anyway,
I've said enough about that for now.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's like a confection. I don't think that's baking, that's
baking adjacent.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah. Maybe you're always countering me, Paul. You're you're like
making me look bad on my own show.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm trying to balance.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Balance what.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
We need? Balance? We need? We need some balance here.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
All right, there is an asymmetry.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Let's jump right into our favorite plants right now for
this week of June twenty seventh. I'll start. I'll start
with one that I already talked about like a month
and a half ago, which is asert to terrakum hot wings,
tatar and maple. It's a small, tough maple, sort of
the same size as Japanese maple, but a different look.

(24:58):
It's it's more, uh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Generally a little bigger, A little bit bigger only comes
in green leaves, but it has fruit.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
That fruit the samaras the wings the helicopters on that
are bright red, and they have been bright red for
at least a month and a half. Oh nice, and
they're so so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I saw several yesterday at Spring Grove bird around with
Brian Hines with some interns, and he showed us well.
He pointed out one, but I noted at least a
couple others other specimens.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I've noticed that the City of Cincinnati is planning on
the street trees, which is perfect. They're tough for that
really awful kind of sight along roads. They're relatively small,
so they fit under wires and everything else. And the
samara show up so well when you're driving past them.
May may cause a few accidents, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know what also has shown up red now that's
also been showy, yeah for months now?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
What Major wheeler, Major wheeler, the honeysuckle of a native honeysuckle.
Major Wheelers the cultivar name super red trumpety flowers that
draws yep and uh and a long, long bloomer really

(26:17):
holding up. It had a big flesh at first, and
now it's a little less, but it's still blooming and
it may go on for a fall summer pretty much.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
There's a good chance if you are shopping in a
garden center, that's probably the cultivar that is going to
be available right that one.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
There are a number of them, some yellow, orange, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, the Major Wheelers is if you're just wanting a
great and these are some vines, but they don't get
out of control like now, way up in the tree
kind of vines.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Shrubby vine.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Kind of a shrubby vine. Good for almost any garden.
You don't have to worry about it eating all your
real estate. No, yeah, Jerome, what are you thinking about
right now? What's one of your favorite plants?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think I'm gonna start with parthenium and tag folium.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Wild quinine pretty rare.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
It should be used more.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
It should be in garden centers because it's really easy
to grow. It has a good uniformity to it. It
behaves well in the pot and in the ground. You
kind of can plant it and walk away. It takes
all different kinds of soil. And the thing I love
about it most and it's kind of like at the
end of its bloom right now. It blooms in that

(27:24):
sweet spot in between spring and summer, kind of along
with the penstamens and iris versa color and just a
little bit after that, but before like the echinaces and
stuff start kicking in. But it has this really cool
like geometry to its flowers.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's about a three foot tall plant, narrow.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, it's a white blooming plant. It is the purest
white flower.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
We have little candelabra kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, And after it blooms, it turns this like beautiful
silvery whalebone color.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
The inflorescence, Yeah, spent flower.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
To spend flower. And it kind of holds that all winter.
So in this winter garden of all these different browns
and stuff, you have this like silvery the silvery cluster
on top of the garden, and it's just really amazing
and beautiful. And of course it has all these medicinal
properties as well. If you're into that.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Stuff, which yeah, yeah, we're not condoning.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
We're not doctors here, we are your physician before you
do anything.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Anybody who takes my medical advice should look at me
good and closely first. Along the same lines as that
in that lag period, this sort of lag period that
a lot of people say, oh, yeah, it's kind of
slow on bloom. Not really. If you go back to
the garden center after Mother's Day, there are things that

(28:47):
are going strong corecosmia right now. And lucifer I don't
like the name, kind of wigs me out a little bit,
but it's such it's such a deep red that I see.
It was named that very rich, like maybe the most
saturated red of any flower I know of, except for
maybe ciline regia and lobelia. It is just well, first

(29:13):
of all, it has that red and it looks like
an iris. It's got the the what do you call
that foliage, the sword like foliage aquifolia maybe wow, equat
equatant foliage. And on top of this, on scapes, it
starts out with really cool buds like can in two
rows that sort of arch. The buds look like that

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candy corn, kind of that orange orange and red and shiny, shiny.
The buds are almost as good as the flowers, and
then the flowers start opening at the top and then
down the scape and it lasts for a couple of weeks.
I do have a love hate relationship with this plant
because once it's finished it in my garden at least

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becomes a big weepy mess. And sometimes I just cut
it back. It's so tough it can handle that. It'll
come back next year strong. It's very you'll be giving
it away in two or three years, because it's kind
of an aggressive plant, not invasive, but aggressive.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
But that's a that's an interesting one too, because like
in the push, like the native plant Push, the kind
of like habitat restoration World and all that focus. Now
in gardens Krakosy and some of those other old timy plants,
they're kind of falling by the wayside. You don't really
see them in design or anything like that. But if
used sort of like intermittently, they can have such great impact.

(30:37):
And one of those plants that just like brings people
into the world of gardening, no doubt. I mean, that
flower is just you see that flower, You're transported to
the Southern hemisphere but it's hardy here. Yeah, and it's
just it's one of those plants that are just kind
of shocking when you see it.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
We've got to take a break. We'll be back in
just a few minutes. Will carry on with more plants
or favorite plants. Right now, you're listening to Let's Guarden
with Scott Perline. We'll be back in just a couple
of minutes with Paul calls Are and Jerrem Stinger, both
from the Zoo, and we'll finish up this last segment
with a few more favorite plants right now, and then
we have Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania Horticulture Society coming.

(31:19):
So what do you got next?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Paul Hydrangea lime ricky mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I do like that plant.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
It's really nice.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's beautiful, right yeah, yeah, native for polinators.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I had to report that that has been discontinued on
the market.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Really, I've heard. I'm very disappointed. So has Halo is
now your I think that would be probably the closest approximation.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think so, Yeah, which is as a fabulous, fabulous one. Yeah,
great for pollinators. It draws them like crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Number one number one shrub in the zoo pollinator watch.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Studies and again that's uh, the smooth hydrangeau has H
A A S.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Haloes.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, oh is it?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah? No kid or apostrophy at the end. I don't know.
That's why it's confusing has with a possessive. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Plant records guy over here.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, Jerome, what's your favorite plant? Right now?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I'm going to be really broad and I'm just going
to say native grasses. And I wanted to talk native
grasses real quick, just to get my plug in, because
it's it's so hard to landscape with native grasses on
the homeowner front because you you you shop for them
in a garden center, they're always going to be in
a two or three gallon, they're going to be a
little more expensive, and they don't really have like the

(32:39):
ornamental flower of a lot of our great perennials, right,
and so you're not getting that color and that's why
most people buy plants as first.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
But you're getting texture.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
But you are getting texture, and it's very hard to
spend money on texture and structure.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
But it's so important in the garden.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's the most important thing in design anyway. And the
other tough thing is like you have to buy kind
of a lot of them to really get that impact.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
But you know, you can divide that two gallon plants
sometimes depending on what it is.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Love the way you're thinking there, Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Can pretty much take it home, cut it in fours absolutely,
Especially panicms, I think, yeah, let it.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Get big a couple of years and then drive a
spade into that bad boy, separate it. But you know,
it's just the grass thing in general. If if we
were able to grow them a little smaller and get
them out for a little cheaper and larger numbers, I
think that would really like help out home landscapes a lot.
And I'm kind of not talking about like miscanthus or
anything like that, but are our panicms.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Switch grass, big blue stan, little blue.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Mulei grass sparabilis, which what is that? That Indian grass?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh, one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
There's so many options out there, so you know, every
time I would say, every time you go to buy
a couple wild flowers or perennial flowering plants at a
garden center, throw grass in there. Accumulate over time.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
We had Shannon Curry on two weeks ago, I believe
it was and she's with Iszel Plants I Z e. L.
And they sell a lot of these things and plug
sizes a little trickier to start. You want to make
sure you're planning in the spring or when you can water.
But it's a much more economical way of getting some

(34:22):
of these plants, like grasses that might be expensive. You
have to be a little patient, but not too it's
not too bad. I'm going to jump in with the electrum.
And I love trying to say this. It proves if
I'm sober and officer, it's the electrum broken Bruni Yana.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Meadow rue, I think is the common name. It's a
at least six foot maybe seven maybe eight foot perennial
with the finest, most dainty columbine like flower leaves. And
on top of that is just the daintiest, sweetest little
purple flowers on big scapes. It are spring of them,

(35:00):
airy spray. It's just a great compliment to any garden.
It never I've never seen it. I've never seen it
fall over. Yeah, it is tall lane. Yeah, so you
might want to plan in among your native grasses, but
it just is it's such a feature. People are always
asking what is that When I show a picture, they

(35:21):
come to the garden. So yeah, well that about wraps
up favorite plants right now. Unfortunately we all had more
of them, so we've got to take this commercial break.
You're listening to That's Garden with Scott Berlin. Give us
a call if you want to talk about community gardens.
We have Andrew Bunting joining us in just a few minutes.
Give us called eight hundred and eighty two, three eighty

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two fifty five will be right