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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from woor Is Jesse Kevin Show.
Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's upday.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You have crested the peak of the week, and now
we have to have some heavy conversations tonight, some conversations
that may be difficult to hear because we're going to
do a bunch of post debate analysis tonight. I know
you've been probably listening watching that all day while I
have a ton to say about that. That's going to
be a big part of the show. Sean Spicer, who
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joined us last night's going to join us again and
a half hour from now to do post debate stuff,
So that'll be part of it. It is the anniversary
of September eleventh. We'll do some talk about that. We'll
find out what the people on the street think. The
GOP surprise, surprise, getting ready to screw us all in Congress,
all that, so much more coming up tonight on the
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World Fame as Jesse Cally Show. Now, I want to
I wanna before I get to debate analysis, I want
to make sure I let you know this. There is
a silver lining, a soft landing in all of this,
I think. And here's what I mean by that. Here's
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what I mean by that one. We had a bad night.
It's a bad night, Okay, not the end of the world,
it's a bad night. I'm not sure whether or not
it will make a difference, because there are one of
three scenarios pre debate that we are dealing with going
into the night. And here are the different three scenarios.
And I don't know which one of these three is real,
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and neither do you. Nobody knows, We won't know, but
either it's scenario one. What's scenario one? Well, this is
the worst screwed anyway. Scenario Scenario one is the country
has moved far to the left. The country is so broken,
st and demoralized. There's so much cheating, there are so
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many illegals, there's so much this that Republicans really can't
win a national election anyway. And it doesn't matter. I
don't believe that's the case, but there's a chance that
we're there. And so if that's the case, if we're
at scenario one, then last night's debate doesn't matter at all.
Great debate, bad debate, doesn't really matter. Last night's debate
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doesn't matter at all. So let's set that scenario aside.
That's a possibility. I don't think that's where we are,
but that's a possibility. Let's set that aside. Scenario two.
Scenario two is this, and I actually think there's a
chance this is the likely truth of the country. Scenario
two is people are suffering. They are suffering so badly
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that it doesn't it doesn't matter how bad a debate goes,
how good a debate goes. The commercials don't matter. That
the basic blocking and tackling of a campaign, it isn't
that important because people are suffering so bad that they
just can't make ends meet, and they're voting against the
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party in power. I believe there's a decent chance that
that's where we're at. If you paid any attention to
the post debate focus group things they did, there were
a lot of them who kind of echoed that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's important to remember that we are voting for the
leader of our country and not who we like the
most or who we want in our wedding party, but
who is actually going to make our country better. And
we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both
of the candidates in office before, and we've gotten to
see what they do and when facts come to facts,
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my life was better when Trump was in office.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The economy there it is. I believe there is a
chance that scenario two is where we're at. Look, there's
a chance scenario one, the disaster scenarios where we're at.
But scenario two, it's been so bad. My life's been
so bad under Democrats. I'm voting against Democrats no matter what.
I believe there's a chance that's where we are as
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a country. But then that brings us to scenario three,
and you won't know, and I won't know which of
these three scenarios is true until after November. Scenario three
is this, people are unhappy under Democrats. Life is expensive,
they can't afford power, they can't afford a home, they're upset,
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they're mad about the border. So they're not happy with Democrats.
But they're also not wanting a Trump Part two for
whatever reason, maybe a personality thing, maybe is COVID response,
whatever it is, they don't want Trump part two, and
what they're trying to find right now is the most
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palatable option. They're just trying to find a palatable option.
They are not it's crazy about Trump, but they tuned
in last night to see if Kamala Harris is the dopey,
ditsy airhead that she actually is who can't do anything
but giggle. If that's the case, well then last night
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was not great for us. It was not, and I
need to go ahead and get a couple things out
of the way first. First, remember, I don't care if
you're offended. I don't care. You're welcome to send me
an email. You are. You can yell at me, hate me.
I'm never this thing again. I don't give a crap.
If you're offended, that's your problem, not my problem. You
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are choosing to be offended. You're about to hear some
things that may make you angry. I don't give a
crap if you're offended. I just want to make sure
we're clear about that. One. Two the moderators. I am
going to discuss and blast away at the moderators at
length in a little bit on the show. They were
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so nakedly communist in partisan they should be disgraced. They
of course won't be. I'll get into that later. Yes,
the moderators could not possibly have been any more sick
and evil last night. However, let me ask you a question.
Let me just ask it flat out. Have you ever
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watched your favorite sports team win a game? Football, baseball, basketball,
I don't care what it is, whoever your team is.
Have you ever watched your team win a game and
then spent the next hour complaining about the refs? No,
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you haven't. I've seen a lot of complaining about the
moderators today. Justifiable complaining. I'm gonna complain. I'm not blaming,
I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Justifiable complaining. But if
you're complaining about the moderators, that's because you lost. It
is it's because you lost. Trump had a bad night,
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this very bad night. And as we get into this,
as we begin to break this down, I'll never know
the truth on this, but I think I know why.
In fact, I'm gonna ask Sean Spicer about this in
about a half hour. Remember what I said to you
last night, several times leading up to the debate, about
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how I was super hopeful and that was making me nervous.
Everything looked like it was stacking up to be Donald
Trump crushing Kamala Harris, and I was so excited about
watching that, and I said, it makes me nervous and
why did I say that? Because the entire history of
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the world, of war, of sports, of political debates, the
entire history of the world is littered with people who
took a loss on the chin when victory seemed pretty
much certain, finding a way to lose when it looks
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like you're going to win. So my completely unfounded theory
is this. I shouldn't say unfounded. I don't have anybody
behind the scenes who has substantiated this to me. I'm
just telling you for what I saw on TV, maybe
you saw the same thing. I don't think Donald Trump prepared.
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I think Donald Trump was so cocky after the first debate,
after he just he was so good in the first debate,
so disciplined, so on message, and Kamala Harris is so
incapable of speaking about anything eloquently off the cuff. I
believe this is just what I believe. I believe Kamala
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Harris killed herself preparing for this debate, and I think
Donald Trump blew it off. I do you want to
hear You want to hear the difference in Trump's Remember
how masterful Trump was in situations like this In the
first debate, when Jake Tapper Jake Tapper tries to trap him.
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If you're talking about January sixth at all, you're losing.
If you're a Republican. This is a general election. People
don't want to hear about it. They don't want to
talk about it. Jake Tapper tried to trap him. Listen
to calm cool on message masterful Trump, the first debate.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
As president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect,
and defend unquote the Constitution. What do you say to
voters who believe that you violated that oath through your
actions and inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll
do it again.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Well, I don't think you many believe that. And let
me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth, we
had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. On
January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth, we
had the lowest taxes ever, We had the lowest regulations ever.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In January sixth, we were respected all over the world.
All over the world were respected. And then he comes
in and we're now left that we're like a bunch
of stupid people.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
That how great was that? Talk about January sixth. On
January sixth, we had a secure border boom on message
ready prepared virtually the same question from last night.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Is there anything you regret about what you did on
that day?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on peacefully and patriotically.
And nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley Babbitt
was shot by an out of control police officer that
should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace, but
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we didn't do this group of people that have been
treated so badly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I ask, what about.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All the people that are pouring into our country?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
In thirty seconds at least of his two minutes off message,
it was a bad night, all right, So let's lick
our wounds a little bit, let's talk about it, and
then we're gonna move on. Because I don't think it's
the end of the world, all right now, Losing your
dog feels like it's the end of the world, doesn't it.
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That's what it feels like. I've had dogs who have
died in years later. I still hurt when I think
about them. That's how much, that's how that's how much
they become part of your family. Do you want your
dog to live longer? You do right, You want as
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your dog rough Greens. Start pouring rough Greens on your
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slash Jesse. We'll be back the Jesse Kelly Show. It
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is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. We're ten
minutes away from Sean Spicer. Remember he's Trump's guy, used
to be in the White House. Came on last night.
Give us a little debate preview. We'll get Shawn's take
on how everything went last night. Now, obviously I laid
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it out pretty good. Trump kept getting baited. The Harris
campaign knew how to get under his skin. Throw Project
twenty twice, Project twenty twenty five. Out there, Watch him
play defense, make fun of his bankruptcies, watch him play defense,
Watch him play defense on this, watch him play defense
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on that. They knew how to get under his skin
and bait him in ways they were not able to
do in the first debate. And so I'll just say,
I think I'm going to leave it alone now. But
I'll just say we all have flaws. We all have
things about us that make us susceptible to certain things.
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Everyone has a thing or multiple things. Trump's is his ego.
He doesn't like to have his hotels insulted, his businesses,
insulted his rallies. She actually got him answering questions last night,
bragging about his rally size. All she had to do
was throw out something about people leaving his rallies early.
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He dedicated thirty seconds to talking about how big his
rallies were. Completely off message, gone, completely gone. Jd Vance.
Jd Vance went on CNN after, and this is how
you stay on message, would say, is.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
He brought up this false claim that you yourself have
talked about in recent days about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio,
abducting people's pets and eating them, which officials there have
said is not true. You yourself acknowledged it may be
false on Twitter, you still told people to keep spreading it.
But Trump just amplified it to tens of millions of
people who were watching. Why push something that's not true.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Well, first of all, city officials have not said it's
not true. They said they don't have all the evidence.
There no evidence. We've heard from a number of constituents
on the ground, Caitlin, who both firsthand and secondhand reports
saying this stuff is happening. So they very clearly meaning
the people on the ground dealing with this, think that
it is happening. And I think that it's important for
journalists to actually get on the ground and uncover this
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stuff for themselves. When you have a lot of people saying,
Mike pets are being abducted, or geese at the city
Pond are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us,
this is crazy stuff. And again, whether those exact rumors
turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the
case may be, Caitlin, this town has been ravaged by
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twenty thousand migrants coming in.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Healthcare costs her up, housing costs her up.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this
small Ohio town. This is what Kamala Harris's water policies
have done.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That is how you discussed that issue.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
This is not She's destroying this country and if she
becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
Not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
He told us there have been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
All seeing people on telligence, let me just say this
is the people on television say my dog was taken
and used for food. So maybe he said that, and
maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I'm not taking this from people.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Did you say, man, job was eaten by the people
that went there?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Again, Springfield's I've seen it on television. It's not like
I said, I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna move
off of it now. And they need to sit and
dwell on it. There's a bad night, and my theory
is he didn't prepare. He beat Joe Biden up so
bad at the last debate. My theory is he thought
he was going to cruise the victory in that debate.
Kamala Harris worried about losing, prepared her butt off, and
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he did not. It's just my theory. All right, let's
do some emails on it. I have a thousand emails
from you about it. I'm just going to turn through
them as fast as I can answer any questions I
may have missed before we get to Sean Spicer, and
I will of course get to the moderators. Jesse, I
caught your YouTube live last night. You seem to be
as mad and disappointed as me with Trump. Did he
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get flustered by the moderators who he had to know
were going to attack him? Was he overconfident? Was he
not ready for Look again, this is something we mentioned
in the opening. This happens to sports teams, it happens
to armies, it happens to politicians the seconds, and that
you have to be wary of this in your life.
I have to be wary of this in my life.
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If you're in a competition. The second you feel like
you're unbeatable, you're going to smash this person. You can't
possibly lose. The second you start feeling like that, you're
in deep trouble. You just are. That's how it works.
I'm an Ohio State fan. I was born in Ohio.
I'm an Ohio State Buckeye fan. Love them. I remember
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we were undefeated one year and tearing through everybody, and
I had an opportunity to go to the National Championship
game because I was living in Arizona at the time.
We got a couple free tickets to me and my dad,
and we were going up against the Florida Gators. And
I don't think a single person in the country gave
the Gators a chance. I certainly didn't. My dad and
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I left that stadium in the third quarter. We were
getting stomped so badly. We went home. As soon as
you're sure you're going to win, you're in trouble. And
I think that's what it comes down to. And all right,
not of that, I'll get through some more of these emails.
We'll talk about the moderators, but I want to get
to Sean Spice or Trump former press guy in a moment,
What did he see last night? Did he hate it?
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Did he love it? What's he gonna tell us? Let
me tell you this. The money's still being spent. And
I hate to give the game away here, but you know,
Republicans are just going to pass another budget that doesn't
cut a dime, right, Meaning the value of the dollar
is going to keep going down. Meaning you need to
find hard assets. Real estate, real estate, real estate. That's
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where we can focus because no matter what happens with
the market, the dollar, this or that, the home will
always have tangible value because it's a hard asset you
can touch and feel. Done for you. Real estate will
get you started in that it's not four billionaires. They
already have a real estate guy for you, the normal person,
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to get started, and they'll keep you going. You might
have ten rental houses one day. They do all the work.
They do everything, the financing, the rental process, They find
you the house, everything you have to go to done
for you. Jesse dot com, that's what you have to do,
done for you, Jesse dot com. Go find out what
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they can do. Sean Spicer joins us. Thanks, it is
the Jesse Kelly Show. And I'm guessing somehow two nights
in a row, Sean Spicer declined to choose his intro
song even after last night, There's no way he actually
picked that song on purpose. Joining me now, my friend
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Sean Spicer of the Great Sewn Spicer Show. Sewan, did
you really not pick your music two nights in a row?
Speaker 9 (19:51):
No, I learned my lesson.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
I thought you would appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
That's my walk on song.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh my gosh. All right, Sean, now we're post debate.
You joined us last night pre debate. You talked last
night for those who forget, Sean talked about how important
it was, how really it was. On Trump, we talked
about this, can he be on message? Can he stay disciplined? Sean?
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It was awful. I'm just being very frank. It was
very awful. Yes, the moderators were awful. Yes, Kamala Harris
it was all set up for her. But on message,
disciplined Trump, which we saw first debate. I don't know
what happened to him, but he didn't show up last night.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
Well, see, this is where I sort of disagree with
you a little.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
He was disciplined, He didn't attack like everyone kind of
forgets where we were coming into this debate was Oh,
he can't attack her personally, he can't call her names.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
He didn't do any of that. He didn't turn anyone all.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
I think there was a little bit of a bar
expectation setting here. Look, do I think he missed a
bunch of opportunities.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (20:53):
When he had that closing line about for three and
a half years you've been charged, I was like, excuse me.
That should have gone up front start of the debate
by refusing to answer about are you better off four
years ago? And went on some tangent about having a
passion for small business, like it was some kind of
like painting or something.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
She's like, who hasn't I mean she's.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
Never she's never signed both sides of a check. She's
worked in the public sector he whole life, and she
has a passion for small business. If I were Trump,
I would have taken that moment and said I know
that she didn't answer the question, but here's the reality.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
No, you are not better off four years from now.
She knows and I know.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
It because it's an easy question to answer if you've
done that and she hasn't. I did you were better off?
After four years in me and she knows the reality,
and that's why she evaded the question. Furthermore, when it
comes to small businesses, which she has a passion for,
I know what it's like to sign both sides of
a check.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I know what it's like to have to pay roll
at the end of the meet, payroll at the end
of the week.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
She's never had to worry about that. In fact, she's
never had a been on a payroll that wasn't part
of of the of the you know, financed by the taxpayer.
And he kept he missed a lot of opportunities, And
I think that's different.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
He didn't have a bad night.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
He did what he needed to do, but I think
he had a lot of missed opportunities to highlight her
record when it came to immigration, I thought he did fantastic,
But I think you know, and you you know, I
can't just brush aside the moderators.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
It was disgusting, it was horrible.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
So I chalk this more up to you missed a
lot of opportunities as opposed to you had a bad game.
He didn't walk off the stage like, oh my god,
I said this and that was wrong. I embarrassed myself.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
I yelled at her. And you know, I.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
Think that people just thought that he was going to
come out again after he did with Joe Biden and
just destroy him. So if you think about it, and
I mentioned this with you yesterday, everyone in the world
frankly knows Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
He didn't have to prove himself.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
If you liked what you saw during his four years
of president, then you were going to stick with him.
No One at a debate last night. I don't think
they were going to say, oh my god, I'm totally
offended by Donald Trump, but gosh, he had a good
debate night.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
So I'm completely throwing that out out.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
You either agree with him, you disagree with his approach,
his record. Kamala Harrison in their hand, most people have
no idea who the heck she is. They've heard some
things here or there, and last night they were tuning
in to see her.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I think she was blad, she was fine.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
She sounded scryptic, robotic like every other politician. I don't
think she did herself any favors.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
I also don't think she did any any harm. She
didn't fall in her.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Face, she missed a lot, she evaded but I think
when you were that propped up by ABC News, it
would be almost impossible not to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, of course it's easy. Look, here's a perfect example,
shining example right here. Dome gets up there, lives about
everything and miraculously doesn't get interrupted.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
In fact, I was at the Capitol on January sixth,
I was the vice president elect.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I was also an acting senator. I was there and
on that day. This is too long, I'm gonna lot
not let the whole thing play, but that already was alive.
She wasn't at the Capitol, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
But also, what the hell of an acting senator? I
mean that she doesn't even know her role?
Speaker 9 (23:59):
She was a senator. I just I was like, that's
and she's a lawyer.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I mean, there were so many things where last night.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
I mean, again, I.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
Know we want to want a nitpick and actually talk
about fact checking her, but she said a lot of
stupid things and factually inaccurate things. You know, she talked
about no active duty folks being in combat right now,
and I think there's a lot of folks in the
Navy that might take exception of that in the in
the Mediterranean. And then so I just there were a
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lot of things she said that frankly, were false, stupid, incomplete,
and she got a pass.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
She did get a pass, and it certainly helps when
the moderators are on your team. But she did if
obviously it was all lies. But she did, in my opinion,
present herself as not being the airhead she looks like
on the campaign trail. Now, obviously I assume she got
the questions ahead of time, the moderator herself. Again, all
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these things help, but she did have a low bar,
I admitted, But she she did cross it. She did.
If you were if you hate Donald Trump, but you
really weren't sure about this new lady. You want to
see if she's the dit see moron who's going to
giggle her way through the debate. She did not present
that character last night, Sean. She certainly was well no, no,
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Did she pass? Yes?
Speaker 10 (25:16):
And I also think that she didn't get called out.
And this is on Trump like his job was to
expose how liberal her policies are, how nutty there are,
and there's no discussion of culture, right, I mean, think
about this. This is a woman who had just twenty four
hours early, had on Earth. These questionnaires about her supporting
taxpayer funding of illegals who want to transition.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I mean, that's nuts.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
And yet not one question on culture or anything like that.
No questions on China, no questions on the debt, no
real questions on the military or veterans. But she didn't
even on the question of flip flapping her policies.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
She said, I'll get to each.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
And one of every one of those things and then
just kind of evaded the question. So I but look,
the one thing I think we can agree on on
this is that part of the job of the debate,
because I don't think it's incumbent upon the moderators to
get themselves inserted into the process. Trump Trump's job last
night was to pull those threads. And they say, really
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because your record says otherwise. Really, because here's what you did. Really,
because here's what you said. And I think he got
sidetracked too often.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
My question about that, because I agree with you on
that is why he's a very very sharp human being.
Anyone who's watched him give a speech or do a
sit down interview, he knows all these facts. He does.
He was famously a brutally hard worker when he was president.
Just he puts in the hours, he knows these things,
and honestly, he came off to me last night, Sean
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like a guy who didn't prepare. He came off to
me like a guy who thought he was going to
curb stomp her the way he did Joe Biden and
just didn't bother preparing. That's how it landed to me.
But I'm biased. I was hoping for him to crush her.
Did you see that? Would that make sense?
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
So there's a couple of things there.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Number One, the last part of what you said plays
into what I was saying a moment ago, which is
there was an expectation after the last of eight that
it would come in.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
He would, you know, it, kind.
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Of box around a little and then she'd fall in
the second round, kind of like Biden did, right. I
think there was an expectation that he's just going to
come in and frankly, his team was talking about how
they were going to go through her record and really
analyze it, and they had helped build that up and
they didn't. The other thing is, I think historically, when
you look back, a lot of these guys who have
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a really good performance don't do well the second time
because they get cocky.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
They think I crushed up that last time. I know
how to do this. I don't need to listen to
you numb nuts tell me what to do. I can
do it. I can smoke it.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
And it's like every game is a new game, and
they weren't prepared. And I will say this, for as
much crap as I gave Kamala Harris about holding up
in Pittsburgh with like five whiteboards, she did.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Look.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
She didn't come across as scripted as I had thought.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
And she knew her stuff.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
And when I say she knew her stuff, she knew
how to end every question in a way that got
him to respond right away. Right.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
So she would go off on this tangent the sky
is blue.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Trees are coming up, and the food at your restaurant sucks,
and he would say, the food at my restaurant has
gotten Michelin star reviews, and da da da. It's like
so she was able to basically say, I'm going to
say all this stuff that I want to say and
then and I'm going to let you and then I'm
going to sort of throw out something that you'll respond
to and won't actually comment on any.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Of the stuff that I led with.
Speaker 10 (28:39):
I E given me a free pass on it, and
that was actually I think that's where her preparation paid off,
is that it was pretty obvious to me when they
were communicating that they had watched all of these tapes
at Trump they found something. And in my opinion, I
because I haven't watched all of them, but it was
obvious every single answer she gave was you know, sentence,
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sentence sentence, and then just I'm gonna hit you sentence sentence, sentence,
and then I'm gonna hit you, and it was like,
you know, sentence, sentence, sentence, and by the way, your
ties are made cheaply, and he would be like my time,
and he immediately would respond by whatever, and so she
would get everything that had predated that was a free pass.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, Sean, you are the best, my man. Thank you
for coming in two nights in a row and giving
us breaking this stuff down for it. I appreciate you.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
I've got a lot more to break down on my
show tonight. So if you if you go over to
Apple Podcast, just hit that subscribe button and I'll go
for forty more minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Apple Podcast, The Sean Spicers show. You can get this
stuff every single day. Highly recommend it. Thank you, my brother.
I appreciate you. All Right, well, I'm not done. We
have more to say, and maybe we'll get into some
September eleventh stuff in a little bit. But we're gonna
hash this out. This We're gonna do what a hot
wash is, what this is called. We're gonna We're gonna
(29:56):
go over everything. All right, let's go over this patriotism
being us out today as a September eleventh anniversary. Patriotism
is on everybody's mind, just is. And as I've been
thinking about it today talking to friends, we are talking
about how far the corporate world has fallen when it
comes to patriotism. It's bad. It's terrible out there. And
(30:20):
now we as citizens now we have to make moral
judgments when we buy things, when we buy goods, when
we buy services. Where you purchase your cell phone service
matters a lot actually now because if you have Verizon,
if you have AT and T, if you have T Mobile.
The truth is your money is spent for a lot
(30:41):
of different things. But one of the things they use
your money for is poisoning your country and your culture.
They take your money and they use it against you.
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We'll be back. Is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment
of this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show. But we
still have Okay, so I need to lay this out
for you before I keep going with some emails and
some moderator stuff. We are going to do a little
(31:23):
September eleventh stuff next hour. I'll probably open with that.
We have Brandon Darby about halfway through next hour. This
trende Aragua stuff you heard about that gang first here
from Brandon Darby. Brandon Darby's gonna break down some of
this stuff for us. That's coming halfway through next hour.
We got Selena Zito in the following hour, So we
(31:44):
have September eleventh to go through. Some more debate stuff
to go through, Brandon Darby stuff, Selena Zito. I don't
know how we're packing all this in, but all I
know is I'm ready. That's all I know. Now, all right,
let me do some more of these debate emails. I
know this is cathartic for you, it's cathartic for me
when you have a rough night. But I want to
again remind you, Yes, debates matter. Yes it mattered, as
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we talked about going into it last night. But the
debate is over, and now it's about blocking and tackling
and winning an election. Now it's about getting out the vote.
Now it's about knocking on doors, dragging friends to the polls,
and not just for Donald Trump. Remember, we are not running.
We don't have a king and we don't want one.
Congress matters, the House matters, the Senate matters, school board matters,
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your state house, your state legislature. These races are critical.
The second I hang up, well, hang up, I'm not
hanging up. The second Chris turns off my microphone. When
the show's over tonight, I am leaving here and I'm
going to a local fundraiser for school board. Up down
the ballot. The fight continues. And no, it wasn't a
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great night last night, but it also wasn't the end
of the world. Trump didn't go up there in Poopa's
pants on stage like Joe Biden did. Dome also had
as we just talked about with Sean, she had the
lowest bar in the world. We had previously seen Joe
Biden that lowers the bar. Huh where am i? And
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then the only Kamala Harris we ever get to see
is the cackling moron on the campaign trail. She did well.
She prepared, She looked calm, she looked composed. And yes,
obviously it hurts when the moderators won't even let Trump
talk about getting shot in the head.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
This is the one that weaponized, not me.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head
because of the things that they say about me. They
talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the
threat to democracy. Was a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation
that went nowhere.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We have a lot to get to. Lindsay. Trump talks
about somebody trying to blow his head off, and the
moderators can't jump in to cut him off fast enough.
They did this to him all night long. Crime here
is up and through the roof.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this
country is through the roof, and we have a new
form of crime. It's called migrant crime, and it's happening
at levels that nobody thought possible.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime
is actually coming down in this country.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But excuse me, the FBI defraud. They were defrauding statements.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
They didn't include the worst cities, they didn't include the
cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just
like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs
that they said they created turned out to be a fraud.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
President Trump. Think Trump is of course right there, and
the debate moderator is of course lying. So keep that
in mind. All right, I'm going to keep turning through
these I know it helps what say you. It's unclear
how badly Trump hurt himself in last night's debate, but
he certainly didn't help himself with undecided voters, the real
targets of the debate. He appeared unprepared, as there's sponsors,
(35:00):
appeared scattershot, He appeared to take debait every time, so
on and so forth. Okay, you're right, it was bad.
He took the bait every time. He was off message. Again,
my theory is just that he was cocky and didn't prepare.
She prepared her butt off because she knew she had
to have the debate of her life. He thinks he's
ahead and thinks he's much smarter than her, which he is,
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and so he in my opinion, I don't think he prepared,
and that's how it came out. Jesse had been listening
to your show for several years, watched the debate, beginning
to wonder if Dome had an ear piece in it
was being coached by Obama while talking to Trump. Okay,
so no, I don't believe that Kamala had an ear
piece in, although that's possible, But I do believe this.
(35:43):
She was way too prepared for every single question and
for every single rebuttal, I believe they gave her the questions.
And you can't say that's some conspiracy theory when they've
been caught before, Remember Donna Brazil. They've been caught before
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leaking the material to the Democrat candidate. Remember for these
people cheating, open cheating like that, that doesn't matter when
you're fighting a revolution. Remember, even the truth doesn't.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Mean are Reverence for the truth might become might have
become a bit of a distraction that is preventing us
from finding consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
These people will do in say anything, and when it
comes to the moderators, this is what drives me crazy.
They won't be harmed at all. Their careers won't be
harmed at all. After last night they upped their System
membership cardy. Yes, they were nakedly partisan. You hate them,
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I hate them, But they went out there last night
in the name of the revolution and they did their duty.
They tossed aside any concerns for integrity or concepts like that,
and they laid it all down in the name of
the revolution, in the name of the system. And those
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two people, David Muir and Lindsey Lip injections, they're going
to have long, illustrious careers because of the work they
put in last night. And that sucks, but it is
what it is, all right. This has been a podcast
from wor
This is a podcast from woor Is Jesse Kevin Show.
Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's upday.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You have crested the peak of the week, and now
we have to have some heavy conversations tonight, some conversations
that may be difficult to hear because we're going to
do a bunch of post debate analysis tonight. I know
you've been probably listening watching that all day while I
have a ton to say about that. That's going to
be a big part of the show. Sean Spicer, who
(00:37):
joined us last night's going to join us again and
a half hour from now to do post debate stuff,
So that'll be part of it. It is the anniversary
of September eleventh. We'll do some talk about that. We'll
find out what the people on the street think. The
GOP surprise, surprise, getting ready to screw us all in Congress,
all that, so much more coming up tonight on the
(00:59):
World Fame as Jesse Cally Show. Now, I want to
I wanna before I get to debate analysis, I want
to make sure I let you know this. There is
a silver lining, a soft landing in all of this,
I think. And here's what I mean by that. Here's
(01:20):
what I mean by that one. We had a bad night.
It's a bad night, Okay, not the end of the world,
it's a bad night. I'm not sure whether or not
it will make a difference, because there are one of
three scenarios pre debate that we are dealing with going
into the night. And here are the different three scenarios.
And I don't know which one of these three is real,
(01:41):
and neither do you. Nobody knows, We won't know, but
either it's scenario one. What's scenario one? Well, this is
the worst screwed anyway. Scenario Scenario one is the country
has moved far to the left. The country is so broken,
st and demoralized. There's so much cheating, there are so
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many illegals, there's so much this that Republicans really can't
win a national election anyway. And it doesn't matter. I
don't believe that's the case, but there's a chance that
we're there. And so if that's the case, if we're
at scenario one, then last night's debate doesn't matter at all.
Great debate, bad debate, doesn't really matter. Last night's debate
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doesn't matter at all. So let's set that scenario aside.
That's a possibility. I don't think that's where we are,
but that's a possibility. Let's set that aside. Scenario two.
Scenario two is this, and I actually think there's a
chance this is the likely truth of the country. Scenario
two is people are suffering. They are suffering so badly
(02:50):
that it doesn't it doesn't matter how bad a debate goes,
how good a debate goes. The commercials don't matter. That
the basic blocking and tackling of a campaign, it isn't
that important because people are suffering so bad that they
just can't make ends meet, and they're voting against the
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party in power. I believe there's a decent chance that
that's where we're at. If you paid any attention to
the post debate focus group things they did, there were
a lot of them who kind of echoed that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's important to remember that we are voting for the
leader of our country and not who we like the
most or who we want in our wedding party, but
who is actually going to make our country better. And
we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both
of the candidates in office before, and we've gotten to
see what they do and when facts come to facts,
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my life was better when Trump was in office.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The economy there it is. I believe there is a
chance that scenario two is where we're at. Look, there's
a chance scenario one, the disaster scenarios where we're at.
But scenario two, it's been so bad. My life's been
so bad under Democrats. I'm voting against Democrats no matter what.
I believe there's a chance that's where we are as
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a country. But then that brings us to scenario three,
and you won't know, and I won't know which of
these three scenarios is true until after November. Scenario three
is this, people are unhappy under Democrats. Life is expensive,
they can't afford power, they can't afford a home, they're upset,
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they're mad about the border. So they're not happy with Democrats.
But they're also not wanting a Trump Part two for
whatever reason, maybe a personality thing, maybe is COVID response,
whatever it is, they don't want Trump part two, and
what they're trying to find right now is the most
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palatable option. They're just trying to find a palatable option.
They are not it's crazy about Trump, but they tuned
in last night to see if Kamala Harris is the dopey,
ditsy airhead that she actually is who can't do anything
but giggle. If that's the case, well then last night
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was not great for us. It was not, and I
need to go ahead and get a couple things out
of the way first. First, remember, I don't care if
you're offended. I don't care. You're welcome to send me
an email. You are. You can yell at me, hate me.
I'm never this thing again. I don't give a crap.
If you're offended, that's your problem, not my problem. You
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are choosing to be offended. You're about to hear some
things that may make you angry. I don't give a
crap if you're offended. I just want to make sure
we're clear about that. One. Two the moderators. I am
going to discuss and blast away at the moderators at
length in a little bit on the show. They were
(06:03):
so nakedly communist in partisan they should be disgraced. They
of course won't be. I'll get into that later. Yes,
the moderators could not possibly have been any more sick
and evil last night. However, let me ask you a question.
Let me just ask it flat out. Have you ever
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watched your favorite sports team win a game? Football, baseball, basketball,
I don't care what it is, whoever your team is.
Have you ever watched your team win a game and
then spent the next hour complaining about the refs? No,
(06:46):
you haven't. I've seen a lot of complaining about the
moderators today. Justifiable complaining. I'm gonna complain. I'm not blaming,
I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Justifiable complaining. But if
you're complaining about the moderators, that's because you lost. It
is it's because you lost. Trump had a bad night,
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this very bad night. And as we get into this,
as we begin to break this down, I'll never know
the truth on this, but I think I know why.
In fact, I'm gonna ask Sean Spicer about this in
about a half hour. Remember what I said to you
last night, several times leading up to the debate, about
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how I was super hopeful and that was making me nervous.
Everything looked like it was stacking up to be Donald
Trump crushing Kamala Harris, and I was so excited about
watching that, and I said, it makes me nervous and
why did I say that? Because the entire history of
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the world, of war, of sports, of political debates, the
entire history of the world is littered with people who
took a loss on the chin when victory seemed pretty
much certain, finding a way to lose when it looks
(08:12):
like you're going to win. So my completely unfounded theory
is this. I shouldn't say unfounded. I don't have anybody
behind the scenes who has substantiated this to me. I'm
just telling you for what I saw on TV, maybe
you saw the same thing. I don't think Donald Trump prepared.
(08:33):
I think Donald Trump was so cocky after the first debate,
after he just he was so good in the first debate,
so disciplined, so on message, and Kamala Harris is so
incapable of speaking about anything eloquently off the cuff. I
believe this is just what I believe. I believe Kamala
(08:55):
Harris killed herself preparing for this debate, and I think
Donald Trump blew it off. I do you want to
hear You want to hear the difference in Trump's Remember
how masterful Trump was in situations like this In the
first debate, when Jake Tapper Jake Tapper tries to trap him.
(09:17):
If you're talking about January sixth at all, you're losing.
If you're a Republican. This is a general election. People
don't want to hear about it. They don't want to
talk about it. Jake Tapper tried to trap him. Listen
to calm cool on message masterful Trump, the first debate.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
As president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect,
and defend unquote the Constitution. What do you say to
voters who believe that you violated that oath through your
actions and inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll
do it again.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Well, I don't think you many believe that. And let
me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth, we
had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. On
January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth, we
had the lowest taxes ever, We had the lowest regulations ever.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In January sixth, we were respected all over the world.
All over the world were respected. And then he comes
in and we're now left that we're like a bunch
of stupid people.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
That how great was that? Talk about January sixth. On
January sixth, we had a secure border boom on message
ready prepared virtually the same question from last night.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Is there anything you regret about what you did on
that day?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on peacefully and patriotically.
And nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley Babbitt
was shot by an out of control police officer that
should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace, but
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we didn't do this group of people that have been
treated so badly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I ask, what about.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All the people that are pouring into our country?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
In thirty seconds at least of his two minutes off message,
it was a bad night, all right, So let's lick
our wounds a little bit, let's talk about it, and
then we're gonna move on. Because I don't think it's
the end of the world, all right now, Losing your
dog feels like it's the end of the world, doesn't it.
(11:17):
That's what it feels like. I've had dogs who have
died in years later. I still hurt when I think
about them. That's how much, that's how that's how much
they become part of your family. Do you want your
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(11:39):
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(12:01):
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slash Jesse. We'll be back the Jesse Kelly Show. It
(12:21):
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. We're ten
minutes away from Sean Spicer. Remember he's Trump's guy, used
to be in the White House. Came on last night.
Give us a little debate preview. We'll get Shawn's take
on how everything went last night. Now, obviously I laid
(12:42):
it out pretty good. Trump kept getting baited. The Harris
campaign knew how to get under his skin. Throw Project
twenty twice, Project twenty twenty five. Out there, Watch him
play defense, make fun of his bankruptcies, watch him play defense,
Watch him play defense on this, watch him play defense
(13:02):
on that. They knew how to get under his skin
and bait him in ways they were not able to
do in the first debate. And so I'll just say,
I think I'm going to leave it alone now. But
I'll just say we all have flaws. We all have
things about us that make us susceptible to certain things.
(13:25):
Everyone has a thing or multiple things. Trump's is his ego.
He doesn't like to have his hotels insulted, his businesses,
insulted his rallies. She actually got him answering questions last night,
bragging about his rally size. All she had to do
was throw out something about people leaving his rallies early.
(13:45):
He dedicated thirty seconds to talking about how big his
rallies were. Completely off message, gone, completely gone. Jd Vance.
Jd Vance went on CNN after, and this is how
you stay on message, would say, is.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
He brought up this false claim that you yourself have
talked about in recent days about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio,
abducting people's pets and eating them, which officials there have
said is not true. You yourself acknowledged it may be
false on Twitter, you still told people to keep spreading it.
But Trump just amplified it to tens of millions of
people who were watching. Why push something that's not true.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Well, first of all, city officials have not said it's
not true. They said they don't have all the evidence.
There no evidence. We've heard from a number of constituents
on the ground, Caitlin, who both firsthand and secondhand reports
saying this stuff is happening. So they very clearly meaning
the people on the ground dealing with this, think that
it is happening. And I think that it's important for
journalists to actually get on the ground and uncover this
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stuff for themselves. When you have a lot of people saying,
Mike pets are being abducted, or geese at the city
Pond are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us,
this is crazy stuff. And again, whether those exact rumors
turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the
case may be, Caitlin, this town has been ravaged by
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twenty thousand migrants coming in.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Healthcare costs her up, housing costs her up.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this
small Ohio town. This is what Kamala Harris's water policies
have done.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That is how you discussed that issue.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
This is not She's destroying this country and if she
becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
Not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
He told us there have been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
All seeing people on telligence, let me just say this
is the people on television say my dog was taken
and used for food. So maybe he said that, and
maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I'm not taking this from people.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Did you say, man, job was eaten by the people
that went there?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Again, Springfield's I've seen it on television. It's not like
I said, I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna move
off of it now. And they need to sit and
dwell on it. There's a bad night, and my theory
is he didn't prepare. He beat Joe Biden up so
bad at the last debate. My theory is he thought
he was going to cruise the victory in that debate.
Kamala Harris worried about losing, prepared her butt off, and
(16:29):
he did not. It's just my theory. All right, let's
do some emails on it. I have a thousand emails
from you about it. I'm just going to turn through
them as fast as I can answer any questions I
may have missed before we get to Sean Spicer, and
I will of course get to the moderators. Jesse, I
caught your YouTube live last night. You seem to be
as mad and disappointed as me with Trump. Did he
(16:49):
get flustered by the moderators who he had to know
were going to attack him? Was he overconfident? Was he
not ready for Look again, this is something we mentioned
in the opening. This happens to sports teams, it happens
to armies, it happens to politicians the seconds, and that
you have to be wary of this in your life.
I have to be wary of this in my life.
(17:10):
If you're in a competition. The second you feel like
you're unbeatable, you're going to smash this person. You can't
possibly lose. The second you start feeling like that, you're
in deep trouble. You just are. That's how it works.
I'm an Ohio State fan. I was born in Ohio.
I'm an Ohio State Buckeye fan. Love them. I remember
(17:34):
we were undefeated one year and tearing through everybody, and
I had an opportunity to go to the National Championship
game because I was living in Arizona at the time.
We got a couple free tickets to me and my dad,
and we were going up against the Florida Gators. And
I don't think a single person in the country gave
the Gators a chance. I certainly didn't. My dad and
(17:54):
I left that stadium in the third quarter. We were
getting stomped so badly. We went home. As soon as
you're sure you're going to win, you're in trouble. And
I think that's what it comes down to. And all right,
not of that, I'll get through some more of these emails.
We'll talk about the moderators, but I want to get
to Sean Spice or Trump former press guy in a moment,
What did he see last night? Did he hate it?
(18:15):
Did he love it? What's he gonna tell us? Let
me tell you this. The money's still being spent. And
I hate to give the game away here, but you know,
Republicans are just going to pass another budget that doesn't
cut a dime, right, Meaning the value of the dollar
is going to keep going down. Meaning you need to
find hard assets. Real estate, real estate, real estate. That's
(18:40):
where we can focus because no matter what happens with
the market, the dollar, this or that, the home will
always have tangible value because it's a hard asset you
can touch and feel. Done for you. Real estate will
get you started in that it's not four billionaires. They
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they can do. Sean Spicer joins us. Thanks, it is
the Jesse Kelly Show. And I'm guessing somehow two nights
in a row, Sean Spicer declined to choose his intro
song even after last night, There's no way he actually
picked that song on purpose. Joining me now, my friend
(19:44):
Sean Spicer of the Great Sewn Spicer Show. Sewan, did
you really not pick your music two nights in a row?
Speaker 9 (19:51):
No, I learned my lesson.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
I thought you would appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
That's my walk on song.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh my gosh. All right, Sean, now we're post debate.
You joined us last night pre debate. You talked last
night for those who forget, Sean talked about how important
it was, how really it was. On Trump, we talked
about this, can he be on message? Can he stay disciplined? Sean?
(20:18):
It was awful. I'm just being very frank. It was
very awful. Yes, the moderators were awful. Yes, Kamala Harris
it was all set up for her. But on message,
disciplined Trump, which we saw first debate. I don't know
what happened to him, but he didn't show up last night.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
Well, see, this is where I sort of disagree with
you a little.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
He was disciplined, He didn't attack like everyone kind of
forgets where we were coming into this debate was Oh,
he can't attack her personally, he can't call her names.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
He didn't do any of that. He didn't turn anyone all.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
I think there was a little bit of a bar
expectation setting here. Look, do I think he missed a
bunch of opportunities.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (20:53):
When he had that closing line about for three and
a half years you've been charged, I was like, excuse me.
That should have gone up front start of the debate
by refusing to answer about are you better off four
years ago? And went on some tangent about having a
passion for small business, like it was some kind of
like painting or something.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
She's like, who hasn't I mean she's.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
Never she's never signed both sides of a check. She's
worked in the public sector he whole life, and she
has a passion for small business. If I were Trump,
I would have taken that moment and said I know
that she didn't answer the question, but here's the reality.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
No, you are not better off four years from now.
She knows and I know.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
It because it's an easy question to answer if you've
done that and she hasn't. I did you were better off?
After four years in me and she knows the reality,
and that's why she evaded the question. Furthermore, when it
comes to small businesses, which she has a passion for,
I know what it's like to sign both sides of
a check.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I know what it's like to have to pay roll
at the end of the meet, payroll at the end
of the week.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
She's never had to worry about that. In fact, she's
never had a been on a payroll that wasn't part
of of the of the you know, financed by the taxpayer.
And he kept he missed a lot of opportunities, And
I think that's different.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
He didn't have a bad night.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
He did what he needed to do, but I think
he had a lot of missed opportunities to highlight her
record when it came to immigration, I thought he did fantastic,
But I think you know, and you you know, I
can't just brush aside the moderators.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
It was disgusting, it was horrible.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
So I chalk this more up to you missed a
lot of opportunities as opposed to you had a bad game.
He didn't walk off the stage like, oh my god,
I said this and that was wrong. I embarrassed myself.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
I yelled at her. And you know, I.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
Think that people just thought that he was going to
come out again after he did with Joe Biden and
just destroy him. So if you think about it, and
I mentioned this with you yesterday, everyone in the world
frankly knows Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
He didn't have to prove himself.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
If you liked what you saw during his four years
of president, then you were going to stick with him.
No One at a debate last night. I don't think
they were going to say, oh my god, I'm totally
offended by Donald Trump, but gosh, he had a good
debate night.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
So I'm completely throwing that out out.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
You either agree with him, you disagree with his approach,
his record. Kamala Harrison in their hand, most people have
no idea who the heck she is. They've heard some
things here or there, and last night they were tuning
in to see her.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I think she was blad, she was fine.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
She sounded scryptic, robotic like every other politician. I don't
think she did herself any favors.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
I also don't think she did any any harm. She
didn't fall in her.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Face, she missed a lot, she evaded but I think
when you were that propped up by ABC News, it
would be almost impossible not to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, of course it's easy. Look, here's a perfect example,
shining example right here. Dome gets up there, lives about
everything and miraculously doesn't get interrupted.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
In fact, I was at the Capitol on January sixth,
I was the vice president elect.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I was also an acting senator. I was there and
on that day. This is too long, I'm gonna lot
not let the whole thing play, but that already was alive.
She wasn't at the Capitol, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
But also, what the hell of an acting senator? I
mean that she doesn't even know her role?
Speaker 9 (23:59):
She was a senator. I just I was like, that's
and she's a lawyer.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I mean, there were so many things where last night.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
I mean, again, I.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
Know we want to want a nitpick and actually talk
about fact checking her, but she said a lot of
stupid things and factually inaccurate things. You know, she talked
about no active duty folks being in combat right now,
and I think there's a lot of folks in the
Navy that might take exception of that in the in
the Mediterranean. And then so I just there were a
(24:27):
lot of things she said that frankly, were false, stupid, incomplete,
and she got a pass.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
She did get a pass, and it certainly helps when
the moderators are on your team. But she did if
obviously it was all lies. But she did, in my opinion,
present herself as not being the airhead she looks like
on the campaign trail. Now, obviously I assume she got
the questions ahead of time, the moderator herself. Again, all
(24:55):
these things help, but she did have a low bar,
I admitted, But she she did cross it. She did.
If you were if you hate Donald Trump, but you
really weren't sure about this new lady. You want to
see if she's the dit see moron who's going to
giggle her way through the debate. She did not present
that character last night, Sean. She certainly was well no, no,
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Did she pass? Yes?
Speaker 10 (25:16):
And I also think that she didn't get called out.
And this is on Trump like his job was to
expose how liberal her policies are, how nutty there are,
and there's no discussion of culture, right, I mean, think
about this. This is a woman who had just twenty four
hours early, had on Earth. These questionnaires about her supporting
taxpayer funding of illegals who want to transition.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I mean, that's nuts.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
And yet not one question on culture or anything like that.
No questions on China, no questions on the debt, no
real questions on the military or veterans. But she didn't
even on the question of flip flapping her policies.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
She said, I'll get to each.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
And one of every one of those things and then
just kind of evaded the question. So I but look,
the one thing I think we can agree on on
this is that part of the job of the debate,
because I don't think it's incumbent upon the moderators to
get themselves inserted into the process. Trump Trump's job last
night was to pull those threads. And they say, really
(26:13):
because your record says otherwise. Really, because here's what you did. Really,
because here's what you said. And I think he got
sidetracked too often.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
My question about that, because I agree with you on
that is why he's a very very sharp human being.
Anyone who's watched him give a speech or do a
sit down interview, he knows all these facts. He does.
He was famously a brutally hard worker when he was president.
Just he puts in the hours, he knows these things,
and honestly, he came off to me last night, Sean
(26:44):
like a guy who didn't prepare. He came off to
me like a guy who thought he was going to
curb stomp her the way he did Joe Biden and
just didn't bother preparing. That's how it landed to me.
But I'm biased. I was hoping for him to crush her.
Did you see that? Would that make sense?
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
So there's a couple of things there.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Number One, the last part of what you said plays
into what I was saying a moment ago, which is
there was an expectation after the last of eight that
it would come in.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
He would, you know, it, kind.
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Of box around a little and then she'd fall in
the second round, kind of like Biden did, right. I
think there was an expectation that he's just going to
come in and frankly, his team was talking about how
they were going to go through her record and really
analyze it, and they had helped build that up and
they didn't. The other thing is, I think historically, when
you look back, a lot of these guys who have
(27:34):
a really good performance don't do well the second time
because they get cocky.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
They think I crushed up that last time. I know
how to do this. I don't need to listen to
you numb nuts tell me what to do. I can
do it. I can smoke it.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
And it's like every game is a new game, and
they weren't prepared. And I will say this, for as
much crap as I gave Kamala Harris about holding up
in Pittsburgh with like five whiteboards, she did.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Look.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
She didn't come across as scripted as I had thought.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
And she knew her stuff.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
And when I say she knew her stuff, she knew
how to end every question in a way that got
him to respond right away. Right.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
So she would go off on this tangent the sky
is blue.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Trees are coming up, and the food at your restaurant sucks,
and he would say, the food at my restaurant has
gotten Michelin star reviews, and da da da. It's like
so she was able to basically say, I'm going to
say all this stuff that I want to say and
then and I'm going to let you and then I'm
going to sort of throw out something that you'll respond
to and won't actually comment on any.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Of the stuff that I led with.
Speaker 10 (28:39):
I E given me a free pass on it, and
that was actually I think that's where her preparation paid off,
is that it was pretty obvious to me when they
were communicating that they had watched all of these tapes
at Trump they found something. And in my opinion, I
because I haven't watched all of them, but it was
obvious every single answer she gave was you know, sentence,
(29:00):
sentence sentence, and then just I'm gonna hit you sentence sentence, sentence,
and then I'm gonna hit you, and it was like,
you know, sentence, sentence, sentence, and by the way, your
ties are made cheaply, and he would be like my time,
and he immediately would respond by whatever, and so she
would get everything that had predated that was a free pass.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, Sean, you are the best, my man. Thank you
for coming in two nights in a row and giving
us breaking this stuff down for it. I appreciate you.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
I've got a lot more to break down on my
show tonight. So if you if you go over to
Apple Podcast, just hit that subscribe button and I'll go
for forty more minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Apple Podcast, The Sean Spicers show. You can get this
stuff every single day. Highly recommend it. Thank you, my brother.
I appreciate you. All Right, well, I'm not done. We
have more to say, and maybe we'll get into some
September eleventh stuff in a little bit. But we're gonna
hash this out. This We're gonna do what a hot
wash is, what this is called. We're gonna We're gonna
(29:56):
go over everything. All right, let's go over this patriotism
being us out today as a September eleventh anniversary. Patriotism
is on everybody's mind, just is. And as I've been
thinking about it today talking to friends, we are talking
about how far the corporate world has fallen when it
comes to patriotism. It's bad. It's terrible out there. And
(30:20):
now we as citizens now we have to make moral
judgments when we buy things, when we buy goods, when
we buy services. Where you purchase your cell phone service
matters a lot actually now because if you have Verizon,
if you have AT and T, if you have T Mobile.
The truth is your money is spent for a lot
(30:41):
of different things. But one of the things they use
your money for is poisoning your country and your culture.
They take your money and they use it against you.
Pure talk doesn't do that. Puretock loves you, loves your country,
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We'll be back. Is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment
of this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show. But we
still have Okay, so I need to lay this out
for you before I keep going with some emails and
some moderator stuff. We are going to do a little
(31:23):
September eleventh stuff next hour. I'll probably open with that.
We have Brandon Darby about halfway through next hour. This
trende Aragua stuff you heard about that gang first here
from Brandon Darby. Brandon Darby's gonna break down some of
this stuff for us. That's coming halfway through next hour.
We got Selena Zito in the following hour, So we
(31:44):
have September eleventh to go through. Some more debate stuff
to go through, Brandon Darby stuff, Selena Zito. I don't
know how we're packing all this in, but all I
know is I'm ready. That's all I know. Now, all right,
let me do some more of these debate emails. I
know this is cathartic for you, it's cathartic for me
when you have a rough night. But I want to
again remind you, Yes, debates matter. Yes it mattered, as
(32:10):
we talked about going into it last night. But the
debate is over, and now it's about blocking and tackling
and winning an election. Now it's about getting out the vote.
Now it's about knocking on doors, dragging friends to the polls,
and not just for Donald Trump. Remember, we are not running.
We don't have a king and we don't want one.
Congress matters, the House matters, the Senate matters, school board matters,
(32:32):
your state house, your state legislature. These races are critical.
The second I hang up, well, hang up, I'm not
hanging up. The second Chris turns off my microphone. When
the show's over tonight, I am leaving here and I'm
going to a local fundraiser for school board. Up down
the ballot. The fight continues. And no, it wasn't a
(32:54):
great night last night, but it also wasn't the end
of the world. Trump didn't go up there in Poopa's
pants on stage like Joe Biden did. Dome also had
as we just talked about with Sean, she had the
lowest bar in the world. We had previously seen Joe
Biden that lowers the bar. Huh where am i? And
(33:16):
then the only Kamala Harris we ever get to see
is the cackling moron on the campaign trail. She did well.
She prepared, She looked calm, she looked composed. And yes,
obviously it hurts when the moderators won't even let Trump
talk about getting shot in the head.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
This is the one that weaponized, not me.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head
because of the things that they say about me. They
talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the
threat to democracy. Was a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation
that went nowhere.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We have a lot to get to. Lindsay. Trump talks
about somebody trying to blow his head off, and the
moderators can't jump in to cut him off fast enough.
They did this to him all night long. Crime here
is up and through the roof.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this
country is through the roof, and we have a new
form of crime. It's called migrant crime, and it's happening
at levels that nobody thought possible.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime
is actually coming down in this country.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But excuse me, the FBI defraud. They were defrauding statements.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
They didn't include the worst cities, they didn't include the
cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just
like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs
that they said they created turned out to be a fraud.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
President Trump. Think Trump is of course right there, and
the debate moderator is of course lying. So keep that
in mind. All right, I'm going to keep turning through
these I know it helps what say you. It's unclear
how badly Trump hurt himself in last night's debate, but
he certainly didn't help himself with undecided voters, the real
targets of the debate. He appeared unprepared, as there's sponsors,
(35:00):
appeared scattershot, He appeared to take debait every time, so
on and so forth. Okay, you're right, it was bad.
He took the bait every time. He was off message. Again,
my theory is just that he was cocky and didn't prepare.
She prepared her butt off because she knew she had
to have the debate of her life. He thinks he's
ahead and thinks he's much smarter than her, which he is,
(35:22):
and so he in my opinion, I don't think he prepared,
and that's how it came out. Jesse had been listening
to your show for several years, watched the debate, beginning
to wonder if Dome had an ear piece in it
was being coached by Obama while talking to Trump. Okay,
so no, I don't believe that Kamala had an ear
piece in, although that's possible, But I do believe this.
(35:43):
She was way too prepared for every single question and
for every single rebuttal, I believe they gave her the questions.
And you can't say that's some conspiracy theory when they've
been caught before, Remember Donna Brazil. They've been caught before
(36:07):
leaking the material to the Democrat candidate. Remember for these
people cheating, open cheating like that, that doesn't matter when
you're fighting a revolution. Remember, even the truth doesn't.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Mean are Reverence for the truth might become might have
become a bit of a distraction that is preventing us
from finding consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
These people will do in say anything, and when it
comes to the moderators, this is what drives me crazy.
They won't be harmed at all. Their careers won't be
harmed at all. After last night they upped their System
membership cardy. Yes, they were nakedly partisan. You hate them,
(36:52):
I hate them, But they went out there last night
in the name of the revolution and they did their duty.
They tossed aside any concerns for integrity or concepts like that,
and they laid it all down in the name of
the revolution, in the name of the system. And those
(37:14):
two people, David Muir and Lindsey Lip injections, they're going
to have long, illustrious careers because of the work they
put in last night. And that sucks, but it is
what it is, all right. This has been a podcast
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