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Speaker 5 (01:52):
I thought there was good insight in this.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
This is our conversation actually from yesterday as he literally
blined like he got out of Yoria as quickly as
he could back for San Diego Padres opening now less
than forty eight hours Thursday.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
At one pm.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Uh, And we ask.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Kevin how quickly he does get out of Peoria this
time of.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Year, this year, faster than ever? When I say like
a bat out of hell, it's not a figure of speech,
like it has been hell here for like six days,
like over one hundred degrees and an one hundred degrees
like oh okay, Sarrizona. No, No, they were like before

(02:30):
this year, before the last six days, there had been
one one hundred degree March day in the history of
the Phoenix area. Like, it's just awful.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
That sounds terrible.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, get back to San Diego where it's been unseasonably
warm and like one hundred degrees. But no, it's gorgeous
like seventy today. It's San Diego. Kevincy's are Padres insider?
You ask Craig stam in this specific question for our
listeners that missed it, We always knew it was going
to be Nick Povetto.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Why did they wait so long to make this announcement.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Because there's the Padres and I want to make sure
that I could hardly care less about when they announced this.
I'm not like whatever, but it's just so hilarious that
like so often they're the last team to do something
like like mark my words on Wednesday when a rosters
are announced, the Padres will be one of the last,

(03:24):
if not the last, by like two hours team that
you know that announced their their roster. Whatever. But this
did have to do is we knew all along? Really
that like they wanted to make sure he was good
after missing that start in the middle of spring, he
had one fewer start than Michael came and so and

(03:47):
Herman Marquez and Randy Vasquez said for that matter. So,
but look, you got the what seventy one pitches? He
can go eighty plus, he can go ninety pitches on
opening day if you know things are going well. So
we always knew it was going to.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Be Nick, and it will be Nick.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Paveta comme Thursday afternoon against Trek Scooble. Kevin Acy's with
us right now in San Diego Sports seven sixty. You
just wrote about this, You talked to Craig Stammon and
Manny Machado. It's one thing to say the plan is
to give him more rest, but then you get into
a season and dynamics are a play like now the
team's performing and so on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
So do you buy it?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Do you think Machado ultimately sees more whether it's more
time dhing or just more games off than he had
last year.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
I think both, and I think they'll be more proactive.
There's no chance that Mike Schild intended last year for
Manny's first day off two or his first game off
to be the middle of September. But what happened is
they got to you know, July, and they weren't playing

(04:56):
that great, and Jackson Merrill was hurt at different times,
and like he needed to keep Manny in there, and
Manny of course wanted to be in there. So before
they would say get to that point where it's like,
oh no, all hands on deck, I think they'll give
him some more days early so that if he does
go thirty five, forty five fifty games in a row,

(05:17):
that's that's where it ends versus I think what was it,
one hundred and thirty nine or one hundred and forty
five games or something like that. I wrote it. I
can't remember, but like it was, it was amazing, and
he was so obviously on fumes that he even admitted
he was on dunes by the time, you know, September

(05:38):
came around, and Manny never admits anything like that.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
It's gonna be interesting because once you get into it, though,
and Kevin, I see is with us, like do you
agree that it's it's easier said than done, specifically with Machalla, right,
Like if it's Shake Cronaworth, with all due respect, you
could just say, hey, Jake, you're sitting today, you need
a day with Manny there's more particulars at play, right.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Or I wish I could have I wish you all
could have been there. I tried to express it in
the story. I said it twice about Craig Stalmon's confidence.
You guys, like he got this job because of who
he is and that and part of who he is
is the assurance that he has and the respect he
has from these players. And I'm not saying it'll be easy,

(06:20):
and I'm not denying what you're saying is true. I'm
just saying Craig's Stamon, if he believes it is important,
will tell Many that he has the day off, or
that he's the agent or whatever it is that he thinks. Now,
could Many go eighty games before a day off? Sure,
I mean I'm sure, like look at the first start.

(06:41):
I haven't looked beyond this, but you know they play
six games in the first eight days, Like obviously Many's
gonna play all those. That would be too early anyway,
But like you know, I haven't looked at the schedule,
but there will be a time, and that Craig Stammon says, no,
this is this is what's best for us, and I
do think it will be proactive, because once you do

(07:01):
get into where oh wow, like we're five hundred or
or whatever, falling behind the Dodgers or whatever it is that, Manny,
it does become many who never wants to sit. He
could probably more easily convince than know people that he
needs to be in there. But I just I really
believe there is this conviction and that last year. I

(07:24):
don't want to say lesson learned, they just found themselves
in a tough spot last year, but that they will
not allow that to happen again. And if I'm wrong,
shame on me, but shame on them.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, that's a great point. I think you're going to
be right, and I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I think the organization needs to It's like you need
to look after Machado because Machado is not going to
look after himself.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
That's what happens.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
I want to point this out, like the quote I
have in there, Manny, where Craig Stammon is like, yeah,
you know, he does a tough guy act. He did
not mean that derogatorily. But who says that. Who has
the in lls to say that? Besides Craig Stammon, Like
she'll come on like Craig Stammon is like very secure

(08:06):
in who he is and in his position.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, that's good perspective, Kevin. I'e your Poncret's insider with
us right now in San Diego Sports seven sixties. So
we had been told, I think for the organization that
Jason Adam could be available come opening day. In your reporting,
it sounds like he will start the year on the IL.
What's the reasoning? Is it just better to be safe
than sorry?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Here?

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, I had just reading between the lines, been like,
my god, I think this is gonna happen. He's gonna
start on the IL even though he's been thrown in
the bullpen since early December. He looked great, But it
was the other day, it was like three or four
days ago Craig said something that maybe go, oh, that's it.
He's on the IL, Like I didn't know it. No

(08:50):
one would say it, but SO didn't know it till
today where he said we want to be able to
deploy him like he's been deployed. That means that to
back days or four out of five, four out of six,
And besides the whole idea of not wanting to have
to worry about sudden movements to feel the ground ball

(09:10):
or things like that. It was you remember, before he
got hurt, Jason Adam led the league in appearances. So
until he's ready to be that Jason Adam, then they
don't want to risk setback or you know, have to go,
oh boy, Jason's pitched three in the last five days.
Should be pitching the night. No, that's not how you

(09:33):
go when you're trying to win games. So I think
it makes I think it makes sense. Is it an
abundance of caution? Could Jason Adam have started this season
and been just fine? Probably? But you know, they they
they have designs. You and I might have concerns. They
have concerns, let's be real, but they have designs on
October and they want Jason Adam to be pitching then.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
So what are the looming Like you said, whenever a
roster has to be finalized, the Pajers will make that
announcement twelve seconds before it has to be finalized. What's
still looming over this roster? With opening day NAS seventy
two hours out.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
I don't think anything. Kate Bohen was sent down. We
already knew Bryce Johnson was going to be the fourth outfielder.
We know ty France, Sophie infield spot Boom. Your bench
is set. Jason Adam not being available I think makes Boom,
brad Lay Rodriguez and Ron Marnaccio on the team. Now
the decisions will have to be made because Sungmun's song,

(10:31):
whether he is back on April first or not, is
eligible to be back on April first, and so then
what do you do Because ty France's contract is guaranteed
one point three to five million dollars is not that much,
but we know the Padre situation financially, so there's gonna
be decisions to be made there. And then when Jason

(10:53):
Adam comes back, what goes on? Because Marnaccio is out
of options, so is the Bradley Rodrigees can go down
house Maironaccio pitching. So there are decisions to be made,
but I believe that coming up on Thursday, there really
isn't a decision to be made.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
It's interesting the way you know A j Preller has
kind of added to this roster in during spring training
or right before and obviously the depth pieces that I
guess are going to pay off with this rotation to
start the year, or they're going to be relying heavily
on some of those editions, the Walker Buehlers and the
Herman Marquez is. And then we see a deal like
today with jose Le Clerk, who at one point was
one of the better relievers in the game. I know

(11:33):
he's coming off that lat injury. They already have one
of the deeper bullpens in the sport, but is this
one of those Hey sign them, get them healthy, and
he's almost becomes like a deadline edition for you potentially
in the second half of the year.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yes, And I honestly, with everything going on today, have
not been able to look in and will like, yeah,
what are they thinking? I mean, here's a guy how
long ago was it where he's like, well, I just
paid relievers, all right. I mean, like, I honestly don't
know what makes up Padre's genius is that there are
the guys that decided to get him a minor league
deal because you know he wouldn't be Why wouldn't another

(12:09):
team take a chance on a guy if he's like,
if we can be assured he's going to be ready
in a few months. So I haven't had a chance
to dig into that, but absolutely that could be one
of those. It's another one of those like absolutely no risk,
high ish reward deals.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I guess finally would just be on Joe Musgrove. We
know he's not starting the year obviously on the opening
day roster. We know the roller coaster that guy's coming off,
Tommy John can be on. Is there any update in
terms of, you know, a throng program or what comes
next for Joe?

Speaker 6 (12:42):
There's not, And I'm bombed because, like, I just didn't
get a chance and I tried to stake him out
the last couple of days, and Joe, who is the
most accessible padre I feel confident saying that, just wasn't
around a lot. And so I guess I'll have to
wait until you'll work out or Thursday to kind of
get a little bit of an update on on Joe

(13:05):
and what's coming up. But look, he hasn't thrown, and
so we are. What I can tell you is, I
mean we're three at least, we're three weeks out at least.
I mean, he wouldn't have to start over. I guess
it's what you say starting over is right, but he
would have to build up from I mean, I don't know.
Does he go out the first time and do thirty
pitches and so do the math there like thirty to

(13:29):
fifty to sixty to seventy five. I mean we're talking
about May.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Are you ready? I said, final question.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I have to ask you this because we've been talking
about today on the radio. Are you ready for Thursday?
Overreactions regardless of what happens.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Always always. I don't mean to be like a like
a jerk about it, but like my opening day is Friday, right, yeah, exactly, thanks, Yeah,
Like I mean opening days awesome, Happy Opening Day, all
that stuff. It's just a beautiful thing. You know, my
paper won't let me capitalize it. I think it should be.
I think the O and the T should be capitalized.

(14:05):
It's you know, I'm all for it, national holiday, awesome,
but you know what undred and sixty one to go,
So it is always pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
According to AI.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
By the way, opening day is typically capitalized, for whatever
that's worth. I don't know what the AP Style book says,
but AI says typically capitalized.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I think it's down for AP style. But if it's up,
I'm going to renew my argument because they should be
and I know we're in the minority.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'll back you on that, Kevin, travel safe, stay below
one hundred and twenty miles per hour on your way back,
and we'll see you this week down to Peco Park.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Yeah, beware, the troopers in Arizona are strict.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
I bet they'll be aware.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
They know everyone's heading for southern California.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Thanks Kevin.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
All right, great stuff from our padres insider, Kevin ac
who will be with us throughout the course of the season.
And of course that season gets underway Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
On the other side, does the NBA need thing?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
If coaches can skip town?

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Soaken players?

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Speaker 5 (15:22):
Here's a development story. We'll get into the NBA in
a second.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
And you know how he said, people overreact Thursday, we're lose.
There's there's a topic that we cover on the RAG
that actually creates more overreaction than Opening Day. Can you
name that topic. I'll explain it again for Sammy, who's
doing two things. He's working on his show in addition
to helping out here, and we appreciate him. I said,

(15:48):
there's a topic locally in sports, that causes more overreaction
than an opening day loss. For example, you know, like
you know, if the Padres lose eleven nothing on Thursday,
you can only imagine the reaction like this team, ain't
it right?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I mean, imagine what people are gonna say, Well.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Remember the remember the reaction when they were fourteen and three.
I mean remember if we go back at multiple points
throughout last season, it felt like a marathon. When they're
fourteen and three, we were like, oh, this team, I mean,
this seems really scary. Maybe this is finally the ear
that they do it. Then they have that jum where
they're playing five hundred baseball and in July, and I
think everyone's expectations went into the tank in that trade

(16:27):
deadline day. Everyone's back on the train of this is
a sexy sleeper pick for the Patters to get through
the NL side of the bracket. But yes, to your point,
opening days, certainly people are going to even though it's
one one hundred and sixty second. I can't say that
of a season. I mean, it's people are going to overreact.
But that's what we do when we get paid to do.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
But here we act. Here's what people react. Here's what
people overreact to more locally. And I can't wait to
see the reaction because I see all this stuff on
social and like message boards. Here's what people are gonna
overreact to. John Rosstein, San Diego States guard BJ Davis
will enter the transfer portal per his agency, Envision Sports Group,

(17:07):
So I can I already know the reaction, all right,
Like I see some of the covers, the astychs like
shocking news. If he's entering, then everyone must be entering. No,
it doesn't work like that. If you have followed this,
if you have, if you have your eyes on college
athletics as I do.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
As some of our listeners do.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But it's it's easy to not pay attention to this stuff,
and it's smart not to cause there are like I
kid you not when I say this, there will be
thousands of men's basketball players in the portal. Guess what
that means. Well, there's only three hundred something programs. So
if you have thousands of players for three hundred programs,
that's an average. I don't even remember. It was last

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year six per team seven. Think about that, an average
of six or seven. So there was there was never
going to be a world where San Diego State and
this weather, BJ Davis leaves via the portal or returns.
Last year, Mcgooquothe entered then came back. So there's twists
and turns in there. But San Diego State was never

(18:08):
retaining its entire roster that was ELVI with a return
because basically, no one is would be my guest.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Either way, nor should they.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean it's like this is just gonna happen,
is my point, And there's gonna be so much overreaction
to it, like, oh, they make the tournament things, you know,
Like guys when they did make the tournament, was like,
oh my gosh, they can't keep Lamont Butler. When they
don't make the tournament, Oh my gosh, they can't keep
BJ Davis. Then the year in between they basically kept everyone, Milesborough, mcgoon, goathree, sticks,

(18:35):
some waters, you're nothing not about. Oh, San Diego State
is just a triple A. You know, it's just a
triple A team to the major leagues. We can't compete
in this era. It's everything is overreaction. It's all overreaction.
Trust in this They'll be changed with the roster whatever
they need to replace, they'll replace, and they'll put themselves
in a position to be one of the top two

(18:57):
teams probably in the preseason in the new Pac twelve.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
That in and this is not a shot at current
ASTEC players or bj Davis, because he was maybe the
most consistent player for the Aztecs all year. I'd ask
all of us, as ASTEC fans, do we want thing
zach santein back. We saw what happened. That's not to
be to be blunt about it, but they didn't even
make the NCAA tournament. I'm you need Tweaks, you need
some of those guys back. But everyone it's it's open

(19:23):
free agency now. In Trey Donaldson is a guarded place
for Miami. A year ago today, he was playing for
Michigan getting ready to play in the Sweet sixteen, and
he entered the transfer portal. He was a starting point
guard on Michigan's team that was playing in the Sweet sixteen.
Entered the transfer portal. I mean, to the point you
made about Lamtt Butler, and you know the aspects of

(19:44):
the best season they've ever had. He hits a transfer portal.
It's for every guy that's leaving that has talent let's
just say BJ Davis ends up leaving, that's the loss
of the program, but there's countless. I mean, because it's
open market free agency. The Astets have some things going
for him. A you have a coaching staff and knows
what they're doing. Two, you're going to a new conference.

(20:05):
It's only gonna up the brand and kind of get
shed the Mountain West label and go to the new
PAC twelve. And then you have a at San Diego
like it's it's a it's a rabid fan base. There's
a lot to pitch on San Diego. So although you're
probably gonna see some losses and I'm not gonna say
you're in lie obviously BJ Davis, you'd love to have
him back. He's a very good players. That's a loss

(20:25):
for the team. But but I mean for every guy
they lose is gonna have just as much coming back
in And especially with them being out of the tournament,
they're really able to get a head start on some
of these things. Then some of the teams that are
still currently pushing for a national championship.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, I mean, listen, BJ Davis has been a very
good player to your point, but guess what, there's a
lot of players on San Diego State that have gone
in state that are very good players. You know what's
you know what's a commonality with San Diego State's roster.
It's filled with really good players. Right, So the players
that leave San Diego State often have really good opportunities,
and the players that San Diego State adds oftentimes make

(21:00):
them better. Look no further than for example, they added
Reesticks and Waters via the portal. Before that, they added
Jaydon Lade a little bit of a different era, but
it's only five years ago. They added Jaydon l D.
They added Malachi Flynn. So it's it's not to your point,
it's not a one way street. It's like, Okay, if
you lose Lamont Butler, doesn't mean you don't have a
point guard. Like they lost Lamont Butler and they replaced

(21:22):
him with oh, I don't know, arguably, like right, he
became like a third or four team All American and
Nick Boyd basically a year later.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
You know who came in.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now, he didn't necessarily play that way in San Diego,
but he certainly helped guide the Aztecs to the NCAA tournament.
So you can't only look at it through the lens
of oh my gosh, this player left or these players left.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
What does it mean? You know what it means.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
It means you're gonna find another player that's gonna hopefully
take advantage of an opportunity that the previous player filled.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
And the one I'm not sitting your sugarcoating it like, oh,
it's good that they missed the tournament because obviously he
was a bit of a down year for San Diego State.
The one thing we see is in college football and
the call in college basketball, sometime time, when you're on
the outside looking in, you get a head start on
recruiting kids. Like I remember the backup quarterback for Penn
State a few years ago.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Missouri went to Missouri boat Forbulah.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, like went out and that he ended up being
a star. But they ended up able to get him
because Missouri was not in the college football playoff in
Penn State was still playing. So I don't want to
make it. Obviously, you wish you were competing for a
national championship. That's the goal, the be all end all.
You wish you were one of the sixteen teams left.
But the Attics getting a full offseason now of being
able to try to recruit and get their guys. I

(22:32):
wouldn't panic until we actually have the Night one roster,
which is in October.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, that's the thing. That's a good way to look
at it. BJ Davis is in the transfer portal. They'll
probably be more players that enter the transfer portal. Take
a deep breath like look up in November and see
what the roster looks like. Is what I would say.
B J Davis has been a very good player for
three years. I wish him nothing but the best. But
that's just what this is now. It's more transactional. If

(22:58):
every NBA player was a free agent every year, players
would move more often. They just have contracts, which is
something that doesn't exist obviously right now in college basketball.
On the other side, we're going back to the NBA
with something that I wanted to discuss about a league
or excuse me, a rule change that might be coming
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This like the Transfer portal has made college football and
basketball a three sixty five sport, not necessarily for the better,
but like, if you're a Ohio State football fan, you
can consume this stuff every single day. If you're a
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I mean, like it used to just be like had

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Speaker 5 (25:09):
They come back. They were sophomores, then.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
They were juniors. If you sat out, it was a
big deal. Remember you'd have to sit out a year.
You couldn't transfer within the same league oftentimes for forever.
Your coach had to approve it. Basically the idea of
you leaving. So you went from that, which is one extreme,
to the complete opposite, where Sammy Long can play at
six schools in six years. If you've had like a
knee injury, you know they'll give you the extra year

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or two, and it's like you can play in six
schools in six years.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
All right.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
I want to switch gears back to the NBA because,
as we know, in the last CBA they put in
this rule.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I guess it's a rule.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
It's not a not a game rule, but it's kind
of not like an on court rule. But games to
be what is an All MBA, To be on an
All NBA team, you have to play a minimum of sixty.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sixty five games to limit low managing.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Right exactly because they didn't want players skirting rules like
was happening in the late twenty tens into the twenty twenties,
and it still happened a big deal for MVP, MVP
ACT or in the future contracts, right because to be
All NBA it allows you to max out.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Soe right there the kind of team you get selected
for you if your first team All NBA, you can
make more than a guy who makes third team All NBA.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Thank you so so now, kid Cunningham behind again, the
you know, players Association in the NBA is like, we
need to tweak this rule. This guy's a first team
All NBA player, but he's not going to reach sixty
five and all like lud, he's played sixty one games.
He's got to collapse. Lung I didn't even realize that.
But he could hit sixty five, but he might fall
short somewhere that sixty two, sixty three, sixty four range.

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And I'm thinking to myself, like no, like, you don't
get to rewrite rules that have already been written that
you signed off on. And let me remind you that
sixty five isn't such a damn high bar.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Michael Jordan. It wasn't that long ago eighty.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Two, eighty two, eighty two, eighty two, seventy eight, eighty
eighty one, eighty two.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Now I get it. Things have changed.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's okay, thirty years he played in the nineties, in
the eighties, and there are examples.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I get it. Those are the game.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
We're not physical too.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, it's listen, there are there more Achilles injuries.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Has have things changed?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yes, for whatever it is, there are more injuries, so
we can we can argue that point.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
But like, no, the.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Rule says sixty five. So if you don't get to
sixty five, like sorry, that's what the rule says. Like,
we're not going to change the rule for Kate Cunningham
in my opinion, right.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I think it's funny how like Kate Cunningham, you feel
bad from the sense of he's not a load managing player.
You literally got to collapse along in a game against
the Wizards last week, and so he's not gonna hit
the award. But Brent, you know you, and you and
I were talking before the show and you kind of
brought up the point about I mean that durability is

(27:53):
like a thing that goes with the MVP and if
you're playing, I mean, MVP is most valuable player, if
that's the word. We're looking at most valuable player to
your team. And if a guy plays forty five games
or fifty games, I mean, how can you give them
that award? And I know, I get it if you're
one of the guys who you play sixty three games
and because you literally can't play because you have an injury,

(28:13):
the doctors don't clear you for I get where you
be frustrated because you feel like you got jibed a
little bit. But I'm with you. I mean, missing seventeen
games is a lot of game. This is not like, oh,
eighty two games, if you don't play in eighty of them,
you don't get it where it's like, okay, maybe you
you know, have a week where you're injured, but seventeen
games is a lot to be able to miss. I'm

(28:34):
with you.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
John look Berkley called this when they bitched about this
when the rule went in about how you know, because
remember Joel NB just threw a conniption fit about it,
because you know, he literally can't play sixty five games
that they pay him to. So, you know, Barkley said
that this won't be enough. They're gonna cave and say that, fine,

(28:55):
sixty five is enough, but it won't be enough.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
They're gonna want more.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
And now here they are not even a year later,
going oh, yeah, you know, I don't think it's right
that you expect us to play in, you know, seventy
nine percent of our regular season games. That's just not fair.
And look, injuries are part of sports. If you get injured, then.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're just not eligible.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
There's no clause in there that says, oh, well, sorry, Lebron,
you only played in forty games and then you blew
your achilles, so you're still eligible for awards. No, you're not,
because eventually you're not even going to be eligible for
scoring title or anything because you're not going to participate
in enough games and have enough you know, stuff in
for your.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Stats sixty five out of eighty two without doing the math,
let me just do it seventeen, but like, what the
percent seventy nine?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, so you have to.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Play seventy nine point two percent of games. It's not
a high reasonable Okay, Calric can play in ten thousand
sure games, not really, but you know what, right like this,
it is reasonable. And to Brent's point, the year you
tear your achilles, sorry getting paid exactly like sorry, you're
still eligible for the l Star Game. By the way,

(30:04):
you can play twelve games. You could still be you know,
an All Star. But this is a caveat where if
you don't, if you don't get to sixty five, sorry,
try again next year.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well look at the the year the Eagles won the
Super Bowl with Nick Foles, Carson Wentz was the front
runner for MVP. Yes, I remember him ripping his acl
was sad against the in LA when they're playing at
the coliseum before the stadium and Carson Wentz unbelievable season.
But you don't just get handed the MVP award because
other guys are playing the final at the time. Five

(30:33):
more games search to six more games. So right, it sucks.
It's a bummer that you had something out of your control.
It's not like Carson Wentz decided to be hurt. But
I mean again, the best availability is availability in in
like that's a you know that That's something that I
feel like we've forgotten a little bit in sports.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Dude, the baseball equivalent of this would have been all
those years and he's like my favorite baseball player of
all time, but all those years when Ken Griffy Jor
only played in about forty out of the one hundred
and sixty two games because he's always hurt, But he
should be in MVP discussions every year for you know,
al MVP even though he didn't play in half the games,

(31:14):
because it's not his fault that he got injured.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's you're right, it's not, but it's part of the game.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Fernando Mendoza wouldn't have won the Heisman if he missed
the last four games, right, Like, he just wouldn't have
and it would have been a great year. His eight
games would have been great. But like if he didn't
have and I don't remember his whole year, well, but
i'll give you an example. If he didn't have the
ridiculous throw Leida Penn State with the ridiculous catch, if
he didn't have beating Ohio State in the Big Ten
championship game, Oh those two away, you're not winning the Heisman.

(31:41):
And people just say was an amazing year. Too bad
he got hurt. He was eight, no, and he helped
guide them to that point.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It is funny when you see like you quit this
a lot to We were talking about last week, should
they expand college basketball tournament? Yep, it's now. I College
football I think is a little bit different because I
do think that there's there's the expansion is a good
thing in college football. But it is funny how in
the NBA it's like, okay, guy, maybe play sixty three games.
You get missed that you miss out on the awards.

(32:08):
That sucks, But this is it's the rule college basketball.
First four teams out, next four teams out. Oh, we
need to expand the tournament. There's always gonna be a
first four team out. There's always gonna be a one
team that missed it by one team to get in
the tournament. I mean it's to your point, like, like bright,
what you made, Like so you're gonna make it sixty games?

Speaker 5 (32:27):
So then they got in at fifty nine. It is
such a good point.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
There's always the sixty nine team in a sixty eight
team field.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right, It's you could make the college basketball tournament ninety eight.
There's gonna be the ninety nine team.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yep, I agree.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
And you know, for the NBA just in general, this
is not the time that you guys should be bringing
this up. You've already got a black mark on the
league this year for all the tanking talk and everything else,
which is getting brought back up again because the Bucks
are in a bunch of crap because they wanted Giannis
to sit down and not play the rest of the

(32:59):
year tank and he told him no, and so now
the players union and everyone's looking into that. So I'm
sure that's gonna turn into fiasco.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
But you know, they.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Already have a bad enough reputation with everyone tanking to
where now you want to throw this on top of
it to it and just go, hey, we have a
reputation that about a third of our league doesn't try
and they just tank every game. Oh and on top
of that, we think playing sixty five games is just
too much for us, even though we're making like eighty
million dollars to play and minimum sixty five games.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
To the point we've been talking about a larger conversation.
I know we're up against it, but with tanking, I mean,
the NBA is the only league that has it to where, right,
if you make an NBA All First Team or your
second team, or you're drafted by a team, they can
pay you more money. And I got the thought process
behind it originally because it's like, hey, we want to

(33:51):
have it's not just the Lakers, the Knicks, in the
Celtics in Miami constantly good the biggest markets get overpay.
There's something to be said, We're if you're drafted to Indiana,
they can pay you more money to stay. But that
also is kind of cyclical in that it makes drafting
a superstar that much more important because there is a

(34:12):
lack of Even though we see big time trades in
the NBA, it's hard to trade. Guys can get more
money with their current team. You have to match salaries.
In the NBA. You cannot trade a guy who makes
fifty million dollars a year for a guy who makes ten.
This kind of plays into it in the sense of
guys want this because they want the first teams and
with the second teams where they can make more money
with the money. If the NBA got rid of that,

(34:34):
it would create eight more stars moving throughout the league constantly,
and I think you would actually have less tanking because
teams felt that they could get good off putting together
a good trade package where you don't have to match
salaries versus we have to suck for three years and
try to draft a superstar that we can keep in house.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Right, the intent of the sixty five games makes sense,
But the intent of what the Union is saying or
the Players Association is well, here's what they're saying.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
We want more money for Kate.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Cunningham exactly because if he is all MBA, what that
means for him is more compensation, which ultimately is good
for Cunningham, which is good for the Players Association. This
is like saying, hey, you know what, Tiger Woods is
great and the cut line is plus two and he's
plus three, but give.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Me a break him in there.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Let's have eighty eight golf for his advance, not seventy two.
It's a joke. This guy's is a twelve time major champion.
You're gonna let him in a plus three. There's always
like to your point, it's always to what end you
have to draw?

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(36:07):
we're broadcasting downtown on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, we're at Sidebar downtown and we have kind.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Of a special schedule for Thursday since it is opening day.
You and Fletch are gonna be on the air from
eleven to twelve thirty eleven am till just past noon,
so ninety minute kind of pre and then I'll be
on the air, might.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Have a guest or two with me.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Over the course, there's ninety minutes from twelve thirty to two,
which is about forty five minutes forty minutes a pre game,
then forty five minutes or so in game.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
That should be interesting.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
But that's our schedule where it's Sidebar, it's kind of
like an iHeart I don't know, corporate event, but we're
gonna be broadcasting outsides. So if you're if you're near
the ballpark. If you're gonna be out time, we'd love
to see you. Yeah, we're down there from ten to thirty.
No excuse me, from No. Eleven to two, eleven to two.
As you're on from eleven to twelve thirty, I'm on
from twelve thirty.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Come by, say hi. I would love to.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Let mean everybody ex give me what eighty agrees out.
I mean Opening Day in San Diego, Opening Day in
general is a great day. I mean, you could be
a fan of any of the teams. You should still go.
You might like the Rockies. You're still going. You're bringing
your kids. It's opening Day, now day two Tony good
opening Day. There's not as many people. Of course, field
there will be a lot of people, obviously a Petgo
Park Friday Night against Detroit. But there's just something special.

(37:20):
People say this in a lot of places, like Opening
Day in Cincinnati special. Opening Day in New York is special.
I'm telling you, having been to a lot of these places.
Opening Day in San Diego really is special. It is
a unique spot to watch baseball, with all the activity downtown,
with the way they draw at Petco Park, with the
traditional weather which is always good this time of year.

(37:41):
It's just it's awesome and I can't wait for Thursday.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's just so cool how I mean everyone obviously knows this,
but where the park is, it's like it really is
like a party before and after the game because of
all the bars down there and everything. It's like, you know,
people are Opening Day really is kind of a national holiday.
I remember living in Seattle and no one went to
school because everyone was at the Mariner game. And same
down here in San Diego. So yeah, Opening Day one

(38:06):
of the great days of the year and always fun
even like, man know, everyone's just celebrating baseball's back. But
Opening Day you get great picture matchups. Yes, like it's
just it's just just a super fun name. Obviously can't
wait till Thursday.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
So remind me the deal that Jackson Merrill signed with
the Padres last year. I'm trying to look at the
terms of that deal. It was what was deemed as
a team friendly deal, right that that contract that he signed, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
It wasn't it. It was like an eight year I
didn't want to say I thought it was like one
hundred and twenty five million, but I think that could
be wrong.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Okay, so he got nine for one thirty five, all right,
and now there's some options in there where you can
get more than that.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
We said, man, that's really team friendly. Listen to this.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Pete Crow Armstrong and the Cubs are in agreement on
a six year, one hundred and fifteen million dollar deal.
So that's more per year. It's less overall, it's a
lot more per year because six to one fifteen is
roughly twenty six times twenties. One twenty nine into one
thirty five is more like, man, I'm doing the math

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fifteen ish.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, remember when he signed that deal, it was Marte
could tell Marte for the Diamondbacks, and some of these
guys that are in his draft class must have been
kicking themselves because Merrill could have got a lot more money.
This felt like it was a John Siler at the time,
going no one's spending money. It was a very good

(39:32):
pr day for John Siler in terms of he got
him on this deal. But if you look at the deal,
there are a lot of outs, so it's kind of yeah,
the overall numbers. If Jackson Merril plays up to Jackson
Merril standards, his agent's ripping this thing up in two years.
I mean, that's like that, like there's no way that
they're gonna let him play on this. This felt a
little bit I remember at the time when it happened, like, Hey,

(39:52):
we're gonna put this out there, we're gonna signing a
team friendly deal, and this is gonna be good for
both of us, and then we'll take care of you
down the road, maybe obviously a couple of years from now.
Sound like you're getting out of the Machado Bogart's contracts
anytime soon, but with a new owner, maybe you could
get those contracts off. But yeah, I'm curious how long
that actual contract lasts.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, well, it's interesting because here's what's interesting about Pete
crow Armstrong's deal. And maybe Brent has a better feel
for this than I do. His major league debut was
was he a rookie last year? I think by technically
was Pete crow Armstrong a rookie by classification last year?

Speaker 5 (40:27):
I need to look it up because the.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Reason I bring it up is he just signed a
six year deal, but he still has five years on
his deal before he was a free agent, So think
about that, they're only extending him out one year. No,
he wasn't a rookie last year, it was his second year. Yeah,
because he would Yeah, so we actually okay, so they're
actually extending it out a couple of years. But it's
interesting how many young players in the current CBA get

(40:50):
locked up on these on these long term deals.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
It's kind of my point, like.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
We've seen a lot of examples of players not even
get anywhere near free agency, and I guess it's win win,
Like if you're Jackson Merril, how do you say no
to one thirty five? Because what if something happens and
you never have a chance at that, then you're not
getting three thirty five.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's what's where with baseball is that it's so you
can go from being a great player it's a really
bad player pretty quick, quicker than a lot of other supports,
where like you'll see in the NBA guys gradually decline.
But basically you can all of a sudden just not
hit the side of a barn, right, I mean, you
get it, you go through it's such a game of
slob So I get where guys are so desperate to
get their money they just sign it. But it is

(41:30):
it does feel like those contracts are a little bit undervalued.
Now PCA is such a star in Chicago, and he's
just a star, like his endorsement money is probably through
the roof. But yeah, I am curious because baseball, you know,
usually if you wait, you get these I'm surprised how
many guys are willing to sign long term deals. That's
what shocks me, like these nine, ten eleven year contracts,

(41:53):
and how many organizations are willing to give those kind
of deals out because like the Potteries are prime example,
they don't want much hot own Bogarts on these these
two deals. I mean, if they could not that Machana's
not a good player, because he is, but if they
could get out of the long term, I mean, you
locked this core group in for years when you signed
all these the Big Three to massive deals, and I
guess now the Big Four with Meryl. I'm surprised how

(42:15):
many teams are willing to do that. Chicago makes more
sense to me than San Diego because they have more money.
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, I mean, if you're I mean I like it
both ways. If I'm Chicago, I get it. Like if
Pete crow Armstrong continues on this trajectory and he approaches
free agency, the dollars probably increase.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I get it both ways.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
It's just interesting for me to actually compare his Pete
crow Strong's deal to Jackson Merril's deal because they're very
similar in terms of like timing in their career.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Young enough player.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
PCA is older than Meryl, so he broke through a
little later than Merrill, and this locks him up. I
think through age thirty one season, where Meryl is such
a young kid that he's got one another eight or
so years on that deal. Nine years will also be
in his early thirties by the time that deal comes up.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well, the to Sammy's question, the players are always gonna
sign these deals because Baseball's got one hundred percent guaranteed money.
So you know they'll sign a fourteen year deal every
time it's put down in front of them, because you know,
kind of like you were saying that, you know, if
you tear your achilles and you never play again, guess
who's still get in that check for the next thirteen years.

(43:20):
You know, you are, So from a players standpoint, that's
why they was going to do that. From like team standpoints,
it makes no sense to me, you know, I said
it when they signed Tatis to that big contract, or
it's just it's one of those where you never know,
because yes, to Tease could end up being the next
Mickey Mantle, or he could just be Fernando Tatise.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
You don't know, if you don't know, if you know,
there's a lot of risk.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
You said, yeah, there's lots of risk reward on it,
and if it doesn't pan out, then you're stuck with
these guys for you know, in some cases over ten years,
with contracts that you can't move because of the guaranteed
money and everything else. So yeah, it's it's it's kind
of a there's there's a catch twenty two with it.

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