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John Schaeffer with you from Vegas. Brent s Berry back
in our San Diego Sports seven sixty Studios Aztec basketball
tonight in the Mountawest semi Finals. It's going to be
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The latest on Joe Musgrove's health doesn't sound overly encouraging.
Also doesn't sound like it's something that you know, hopefully
costs him segnificant time. But they're just dealing with how
his elbow responds coming off the Cactus League appearance and
coming off Tommy John surgery. But Kevin Acy will have
the latest on that coming up at four pm. And
then our bracket college is Roco Miller will join us
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at four thirty. Also today, we do have a four
pack of tickets to give away to the San Diego
Zoosa Fari Park and we will do that here coming
up this afternoon. Now, Brent and I both caught the
same article earlier Today, written by Jeff Passing. Jeff Passen
like writes. You know, he does these like, here's a
fifty thousand word breakdown on the season. You know, here's
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a seventy five thousand word primer on the trade deadline er,
here's twenty five thousand words in the upcoming MLB draft.
And he wrote predictions and fantasy tips for whatever reason
and more on every single team. And I don't know
how many words this is, but it's a ton of words.
But what was interesting is he kind of wrote nothing
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on the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think we both felt the same way.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Like his big surprise, Yeah, he didn't say anything of
substance is big. It wouldn't surprise me if was. If
the Padres sold for a record price, who cares? That's
irrelevance of their season. I mean it matters, it matters,
their ownership matters, and the sale price and all that.
Of course it matters drastically, but in terms of like
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whether they go nineteen seventy two or eighty one and
eighty one, I don't think that their record sale price
has anything to do with that. What he said the season,
hinges on is where we've taken the conversation today, just
organically because it's the topic of the week. Joe Musgrove,
and he writes, these are his words. It's a Yike's scenario.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Again.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
If Joe Musgrove isn't Joe Musgrove, and he says, kind
of what we've been saying all off season. Maybe he's
been listening, which is they've put a lot of payroll
elsewhere with their roster, that they need contributions out of
King and Pavena and Musgrove, and if they don't get it,
it can be complicated. He goes on to say a
Brothers compiled depth arms Herman marquees, JP Sears, Griffin Canning,
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but Musgrove represents San Diego's best hope in a frontline
type to pair with Bevetan King. And he writes, since
his last start more than a week ago, Muscrove's arm
has not responded as he's hoped.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It could be a blip on the radar.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It could also be something that causes cascading problems in
an already fragile starting pitching group. There is your season
in a nutshell. There it is there. It is in
a nutshell. If you can keep rotation healthy you have
a chance to win, and win it a high clip,
and if you don't, you could be running into problems
before you even think you have a problem, which is
basically right now, because right now it seems overly wishful
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to say that Joe Muskove is starting the year in
the rotation for the Padres. I mean, he hasn't pitched
over a week and it has made one Cactus League appearance.
How on earth could he start the year in the
major leagues? Now, that doesn't mean he couldn't be there
two weeks after the season starts less and make valuable
contributions throughout the course of the season.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But there's a little bit of a domino effec as well,
because you know now you don't have Musgrove, and then
you backfill with someone else, and all of a sudden,
your rotation is a lot weaker than you thought it was.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean, you take one out of five and that's
twenty percent, and you take one out of the front
of a rotation, and its true impact is obviously even
more than eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And I'm looking still.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean, every day I go to fangraphs, and every
day it tells me the Padres are going seventy nine
and eighty three. I'm printing this thing out if I'm
the team as we've talked about, I'm putting this thing
on a bulletin board and saying Fangrafts has no clue
what they're talking about. Because in one columny of the
Padres last year, ninety and seventy two, right, ninety and
seventy two, really good run differential, really good Teamyo Ray.
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And then this year it projects the Padres right now
to go seventy nine and eighty three and finished with
a negative run differential from where they were last year.
I mean they were plus eighty one last year. It's
not projecting the Padres to be sixteen runs short in
terms of you know, run differential here in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And you know why.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Why is that because it's runs allowed per game, it's
not run scored. In fact, the Padres are projected to
score more this year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
This is fascinating to me.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Didn't have a good offense, so I guess that part's
not overly fascinating. Didn't have a lot of slug But
Fangrafts projects the Padres to score more runs per game,
not a quarter of a run, but more runs per game. Right,
so over the course of a season, even a you know,
a tenth of a run is somewhere like twenty more
runs in a season, and more than that could be
you know, thirty forty five. So let's say they project
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the Padcres to score thirty more runs for example this
upcoming season. That's not drastic, but you know, it's something.
Here's the issue. It also projects the Padjres to go
from having allowed three point eight runs per game to
four point five. I mean that is massive, that that
is so significant. So why is that? I think it
starts with your rotation, not your bullpen. Your bullpen projects
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to be one of the better ones in the sport,
doesn't mean it will, but a project to be one
of the better ones in the sport. Your defense might
not be as good. That's a possibility. You've added some
pieces that might play in some of the corners. They
can give up a little bit of defense for offense.
And again the projections state that that their offense could
be improved, but their defense and pitching could take a
step back. But so the name of the game in
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terms of what these you know, analytical sites are saying
prior to the season is that the Padres pitching is
not gonna be as good as it was last year.
And I think that's possible. I mean, you're you're replacing
a lot Dylan Ceas. Now did he have the year, No,
but he ate a lot of innings. Roberts Horris is
her replaceable, yes, when you have Mason Miller, but again
he was a key piece in the back of your
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bullpen obviously. So you know, that's the season in a
nutshell essentially for the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
For me, I mean, and that really is it's can
your rotation hold up?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And it's like, yeah, I mean it's easy to say
that that's the difference for any team to get to
the postseason or not, how your rotation fares. But the
difference with the Padres as opposed to other teams is
that the Padres knew heading into their off season they
were dealing with the situation that was precarious Michael King
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under one hundred innings, dealing with a neck back injury.
Now they re signed him, so they know more about
his health than I do. So I'm sure they're optimistic
in a full bounce back, but again, he still has
to do it and he didn't throw a lot of
innings last year.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Paveda.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I'm all in on Paveda based on last year. He
doesn't have to prove anything to me. He stays healthy,
he's an effective frontline starter. But this is where it
starts getting dicey. Because Joe Musgrove hadn't pitched in a year.
Everyone understands the challenges of coming back from Tommy John
and they didn't fully address their starting pitching needs on
well but John, they added Michael King. Well, they already
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had Michael King, so yes, I give them credit for
bringing him back, and they did invest in in that
player significantly, and that could prove to be their lynchpins
of their season. I mean, if they make it to
the postseason by a game or two, and I doubt
they'll have crazy margin. I don't think they're making it
to the postseason by nine game, for example, But if
they make it by two, you might look back on
Michael King and what he's able to do in twenty
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twenty six.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That could be a distinct possibility.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
But if they missed out on the postseason, you might
circle Joe Musgrove, but not specifically Muscrove, because I'm not
putting it on Joe. It's really the the replacements, so
to speak, like what you did in the off season
to address your rotation, and it's just it was addressed
to some extent, but not to a full extent. And
I think most people agree with that. Yes, you brought
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in players with potential and high upside, Griffin Cannon coming
off injury, Herman Marquez coming off injury and a down year,
but he was bouncing back from Tommy John Walker, Bueller
coming off a down year. He's been dealing with injuries
in the second half of his career. There's others in there.
You have JP Sars, you have Matt Waldron, so there's
others in there. But like, it's very I keep using
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the words wishful or optimistic or hopeful. It's wishful for
me that you could just take a JP Sears replaced
Joe Musgrove. That's not reasonable. You can take a Matt
Waldron and replace a Joe Musgrove. Again, that's not very reasonable.
So a lot of it is on the shoulders of
the front of this rotation, and some of it because
that's the job of the front of rotation, and some
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of it because the padres just haven't invested in the
rest of the rotation to the same you know, amount
that they've invested in their bullpen and in their lineup
and in guys like Joe Musgrove and New Darvish over
the years and Michael King, etc. So you know, we've
used these analogies about like lynch pins or dominoes. Is
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like Musgrove is a big one, like he is you
know again, I think if Joe Musgrove can somehow give
you the the year that you've seen before from him,
that puts you really in a good position. And if
he doesn't do that, I don't know what you do.
I have no idea. If Joe Musgrove is ineffective and
doesn't have a true impact, you know, like he's had
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throughout the course of his padre's career, you just overcome
that just because someone else steps up, because we'reubni able.
Is just a pitching whisper, so it doesn't matter. You know,
if Musgrove doesn't throw well, then then Vasquez will throw well.
And if Vasquez doesn't throw well, then Seers will throw well,
I don't know if it's as easy as at the
major league level, like professional baseball, thin margins, trying to
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win games by one or two runs, trying to navigate your.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Way to eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine wins.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't think it's just as simple as we got
a really good pitching coach, and if Joe Musgrove misses time,
or you know, if Walker Bueler doesn't look like Walker Bueler,
don't worry about it. We've got it all figured out.
We've got a really deep bullpen. That's probably too overly
simplistic for me, but you know, I'll let it play out.
I don't think it's it's five alarm fire. I don't
think the season's over before it starts. That's not the
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point I'm making at all. It really isn't. I'm trying
to be cautious with Joe Musgrove and then also realistic
with the padres, and I think that's the way to
approach it. The cautiousness with Musgrove is because we all
understand the coming off an injury like the one he's
coming off doesn't mean you just get back on the
rubber and every thing is perfect. Also doesn't mean that
the wheels have fallen off and he's not capable of
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being the picture that he's been before. And you know,
you just have to take it all into account. You
got to take everything into account. Look at all their
offseason moves, look at the additions, look at the subtractions,
and see what it adds up to. You know, last
year they did finagle their way to ninety wins. That
seems maybe high based on everything that we know right
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now about the twenty twenty sixteen, but you know, they
don't necessarily have to it ninety. They could win a
game or two less than that and still reach the postseason.
But again, they're gonna need to be somewhere that mid
top eighties to have a legitimate shot of reaching the postseason.
And we'll see if they can get there or not
in twenty twenty six And again, a lot of it
it hinges on Joe Musgrove, but it really hinges on
the organization. Organization probably put itself, not probably did put
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itself in this spot where beyond Joe and King and Paveta,
you don't have the depth necessary potentially to you don't
navigate one hundred and sixty two games. I think that's
at least a fair opinion on it, and of course
we can change it as this season gets underway in
thirteen days. So again, a lot going on with the Padres.
Kevin Acy is the latest on a possible sale of
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How many groups are still in with an offer on
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I would imagine it's similar here as it is in
San Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Brought what is it? Is it eighty ninety? How hot
is it in San Diego?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
To like it feels like eighty ages like yesterday?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, okay, so it's warm, and it's warm here as well,
so it kind of feels like.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Some It's one of those days where if you don't
have to be in the sun, it's okay, Like if
you're in the shade, if you're outside, or if like
you're inside and you got a fan on you. As
long as you're not like in direct sunlight, it's not
that bad. But if you have to go be in
the sun, it's awful. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
So it's so this morning I didn't really so I
think I got up and I talked to I talked
to my wife and son, like you know, they were
getting up in like the seven am hour, so I
talked to them in like seven something, right, And then
I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, well, you know, I
was just thinking about my dang, like, oh, I could
do breakfast or this out or the other, and this
is what time shoot around is.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And I'm like, you know what, I think it's really nice.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I just opened up the blinds and I knew yesterday
it was eighty here, and I was assuming it would
be eighty here again. It was cooler than that at
seven thirty eight in the morning, and I'm like, you
know what, I'm just gonna go for I'm off the strip,
but I'm not far from the strip. It's obviously walkable,
so I'm like, I'm just going to walk to the
strip and you know, maybe I'll go for an hour
long walk. This is at like seven thirty in the morning,
maybe seven forty. Dude, I walked for three hours. It
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was a little aggressive.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I was.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I was out of my room from seven to four.
I knew that their shoot around San Diego States was
at like eleven am. I'm like, well, I'll be back
by nine at the latest. I got back at ten forty,
and then I raced upstairs to a quick shower because
I was out for three and a half hours. Like
in the eighty degree heat and then got to shoot
around and then grabbed a quick by to eat, and
then set up for the show and now getting ready
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for the I think it's just been one thing after
the next. I didn't need to go on a three
hour walk. And can you you haven't been to Vegas,
have you, Brent? I drove through it when I moved here. Yeah,
I mean Vegas is an interesting place. And I'm putting
that mildly slash kindly. I love visiting Las Vegas. I
think it's fun to, you know, be here for a
couple of days, to have something to do, show, event, game,
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whatever it is. I mean there's something for everything everyone obviously,
as we all now, as we all know. But walking
around for three plus hours, you literally see everything Like
I saw like it's like seven in the morning. I
don't even know what I was expecting, but whether it
was off the strip or on the strip, and I
went into some casinos, I'm like, what people were like
drinking at bars? I mean, I mean, of course it's
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Las Vegas. I'm like, it's eight in the morning. What
is happening?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Like? Where am I What time is it?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
But anyway, I've gone home yet exactly. Probably not, honestly,
people are probably still out from last night. But the
reason I bring all this up is like I'm kind
of losing track a little bit of the time, which
spends all the time in Las Vegas, specifically in the casinos.
There's clocks nowhere. They don't want you to know whether
it's you know, eight am or eight pm. They just
want to keep you, obviously in the casino, having a
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good time spending your money. And I'm kind of losing
track of time here today. And the reason I say
it is like this game time is so bizarre. We
know in the West, me and Brent know as well
as anyone. I mean, you know, you're playing a lot
of late games, whether it's FOOTBA or basketball. A lot
of West Coast you know, seven seven thirty starts occasionally
eight eight, ten, eight fifteen. Very rarely are you playing
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at nine o'clock Pacific. This game in Albuquerque, for example,
for Lobo fans, is at ten o'clock Mountain. But this
game won't tip off at nine. We all know how
college basketball works. I mean, hopefully it tips off, you know,
in the nine to ten ish range, but it could
be later than not nine or ten, like nine ten,
It could be later than that, maybe it could be
a few minutes earlier than that, but like, this is
a really late night. And then the key in this
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event over the years is that the team that wins
the first doubleheader on semi final Friday has a pretty
big advantage because they can get back to the hotel
and rest. Because on Saturday, the championship game is at
three pm. So for the winner of the late game,
which is what San Diego State is in tonight against
New Mexico, you're getting back to your hotel. I mean,
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let's just let's forecast a nine to ten start, which
is probably aggressively positive, right, a little early. Let's say
you start at nine ten and you end at eleven twenty,
a two hour and ten minute game.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Pretty reasonable.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
By the time the team is done with media and
then you know, showering, changing and getting on the bus.
I mean, aggressively, that's forty minutes. It's probably more than
forty minutes, but let's just say it's forty minutes. So
now you're on the bus at midnight heading to your hotel.
That's a best case scenario. It's probably more like between
twelve fifteen and twelve forty five that you're on the
bus heading to your hotel.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Hotels not far, but let's say ten.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Minutes, and you're not even back in your hotel until
the twelves and you know, maybe you're still kind of
wired from playing, and you're then playing another game for
all the marbles to go to the NCAA tournament fourteen hours.
I think that is terrible, and that is a huge
knock at the Mountain West Conference now to they're TV
partners that determine that, But to play the nine pm
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Pacific game and then have the winner turn around and
play three pm the next day for a right to
go to the NCAA tournament. And how do you even prepare?
How do you get your body healthy? You don't even
have time. There's no time for recovery. You can get
what do you get? Five hours sleep? Best case if
you're a player, it's like you just put your head
on the pillow and you're out at one am. Maybe
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best case you're out at two am, and then all
of a sudden, the next day is here, and you've
got prep and you've got recovery, and you've got to eat,
and you got to go and you're gonna get to
the arena, I don't know, one p fifteen in the
afternoon for a three o'clock game the next day. So
it's a very tight turnaround, and it's usually advantage team
playing in the first semi final, and that's Utah State
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and Nevada tonight. But listen, you just want to get there.
So if you're San Diego State, you can't worry about that.
I can worry about it. I can worry about it,
and speaks to this just bizarre day. I was thinking
all day. I was like, how my walk? I'm like, wait,
I still have a four hour radio show, and then wait,
we still have to go to the Thomason Mac and
like this game is listed at ESPN dot com as
an eleven fifty nine pm Eastern start, because truthfully, it's
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starting tomorrow on the East Coast and in theory on
the East Coast. The winner of this game is playing
two games in one day, if you know what I mean.
They're playing midnight Eastern and then they're playing six pm
Eastern later that day, so you're essentially playing two games
in one day.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The winner of.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Tonight's semifinal between San Diego State and New Mexico listen.
As long as the Aztecs win, it's all good. As
long as San Diego State finds wh would have win
here today, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
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We'll do that this hour. Four pack of tickets to
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San Diego Sports seven sixty again. We've got that four
pack of tickets to the San Diego Zeus Offari Park
that we're giving away, and we're doing it this hour.
I'm in Vegas, Brent is in San Diego getting ready
for again as Tech Basketballs Branch just told you about
tonight here at nine pm. Kevin Iicy will join us
at four pm. The latest on Joe Musgrove's health, an
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update on the timeline for the Padre switching ownership potentially
as early as who knows. Kevin will have the latest
on that, and he also caught up with Xander Bogartz.
Will it be different this time around for Xander Bogartz?
Will it be different this time around for Xander Bogartz?
Which is kind of just a fascinating question. I mean,
we've heard everything under the sun with Zander, and I'm
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curious to hear what Kevin has to say about his
conversation with Ander, because I don't know, I feel like
we've heard every excuse in the book for Xander. It's
not like this player has been an abject failure. It's
just look at an umbers in Boston, look at his
numbers in San Diego. You don't have to be a
rocket scientist to understand he was way better in Boston.
Why well, there's two primary reasons. He was younger, he
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was better, So maybe three reasons he was younger and better,
and ballpark factors, because it's easier to hit in the
Al East with Fenway Park and Yankee Stadium and Rogers
Center and Camden Yards than it is to hit in
a division with well just the Dodgers in it. But
then you know Oracle obviously, Yeah, of course field is
the one gimme. But you're playing half your games in
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San Diego as opposed to half your games at Finoway Park.
But I mean, just look at his three years, which
is a big sample size. Lexander in three years in
San Diego has played over four hundred games, and he
has a seven thirty eight OPS which, again, for I
think an average regular in the major leagues is serviceable,
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but it's not phenomenal and it's not overly impactful, even
for a middle infielder. It's it's fine, but it's not
more than that, and truthfully, is not less than that
unless you're making two hundred and eighty million dollars. And
that's when people say, well, how are these your numbers
when you make this kind of money In Boston he
had an eight fourteen ops, so nearly one hundred points
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higher in Boston. His batting average in his career was
twenty points higher, and his slugging percentage was fifty one
points higher.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So it's just a factual statement.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Obviously, it is Xander Bogarts in San Diego is not
Xander Bogarts in Boston. And now the question is, well,
what are you going to do about it? And every
spring it's always hope springs eternal, and you know, Xander
has a renewed approach and he's feeling good and he's
going to be a great teammate. Maturity is like, this
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is not a knock on him as a person at all.
I have enjoyed hearing from Xander Bogertz by in large
since the day he was introduced to the San Diego media.
Since that day, I've enjoyed hearing from Sander Bogarts.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I really have.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So I do think he's a good leader, but you
didn't spend that kind of money for him to be
a good leader. I do think he's good in the clubhouse,
but you didn't spend that kind of money for him
to be good in the clubhouse. You spent it for
him to produce on field. That's the only reason why,
no other reason. All those other things are nice, but
you know you don't go You don't call the like
one eight hundred number for the food dehydrator when they
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show it on your TV because of the free gifts
they throw in. You want the food dehydrator. You don't
want the plastic knives. I don't think right Like when
when they're when you're trying to lose the fifty pounds
and they're gonna give you the the DVDs, I don't
think they do that anymore. Like you don't want the
extra DVD, You want the first DVD to lose the
fifty pounds. So like you didn't acquire Xander because he's
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good in the clubhouse. Same thing about Eric Osmer. That's
you can't you can't explain away one hundred and forty
four million dollars because he's good in the clubhouse, just
like you didn't spend three hundred and forty million dollars
on tatis so he could go jump over the right
field wall and bring real pullback from being a home run.
I mean, that's nice, but there's no statues for defense
in modern baseball. So you know, there lies the problem
with Sander Bogertz is not personal. None of it is personal,
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you know. I think he has a lot of good
traits of a really good player, hence his multiple World
Series rings where he was key components on those Boston teams.
So he's just got to do more here than he's done.
And he has not been a good playoff performer in
his career, and that includes winning a couple of World Series.
I mean, he's had moments, certainly, but his time in
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San Diego in the postseason has been awful. Let's see,
he's hit two twenty two with a six twenty four
ops in San Diego in the postseason, so obviously he
was a lot better in Boston than that. So you know,
I don't know what else to say other than, like,
you know, it's put up a shut up, is what
it is. I know Kevin has talked to us about
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this before. It's like, I'm not suggesting they move on
from Sander Bogertz. I mean, you can't eat that kind
of money obviously, And you're still relatively early in the
eleven year deal. This is year four, so you're not
eating eight years of a contract. You're not eating seven,
you know, likely at the end of this year. But
would you consider six or five or four at some point? Yeah,
probably like that they'll come a day where the players
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not productive and the player is holding you back from
accomplishing your goals.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And you don't you don't like.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
You know, what do they say, Like, don't don't let
a bad deal become another bad deal. It's like, you
don't try to get out from underneath a bad trade
by training away that player and attaching a prospect to them.
So like, it already was a bad deal, so don't
make it worse by playing him. If that's what you
have to do, you think for the next seven years. No,
you don't have to play this player for seven years now.
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Right now you probably do because you're only three years
into this deal. But there'll be a time and I mean,
you know, maybe that's a conversation for Kevin. Later on
today and four PM, there'll be a time where you
have a more extensive conversation about Xander Bogart's future. I
don't think we're there. I don't want to be there.
But is that worth having potentially at the end of
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twenty twenty six, if it's once again a very forgettable year,
Maybe maybe it is. I mean that might also be
a question for the next ownership group that's going to
spend three billion dollars on this franchise, will they have
an appetite to eat? I mean, what's that going to be?
One hundred and seventy five million dollars potentially of a
two hundred eighty million dollar deal. He's only three elevenths
of the way through the deal. That's not thirty percent.
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He's still owed seventy percent of two hundred eighty million dollars.
That means he's still owed two hundred of the two
hundred eighty two hundred million dollars. And this is why
it's all tied together. It's like when your back hurts,
it's probably because of the way you're walking. It's not
your back at your knees, it's your feet, you know,
Like it's all tied together. Why is the patres rotation
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thin because they spend a lot of money on Xander
Bogart's Again, is that overly simplified?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, but it's all tied together.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You know, you have one bank account twenty six bank accounts.
If you've got one hundred dollars in the bank, he's
been fifty of it on five guys and you got
fifty left for the other twenty one, then you're gonna
have to cut corners. And that's potentially the issue that
they're going to run into this year. Now, you can
get bailed out by Xander Bogart's living up to his contract.
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You could get bailed out by players like Randy Vasquez
in the back of your irritation or Walker Bueller exceeding expectations.
Like that's all possible, but I don't know if that's
the expectation either. So they've got themselves in a little
bit of a conundrum and they need to They have
work to do when it comes to their payroll moving forward,
although they're handcuffed in that regard because again, the money
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with Manny is tied up for a long time. The
money with Toddy is tied up for a long time,
the money with Bogarts and Merrill all tied up for
a long time, to varying degrees in terms of the
overall spend on those players. But man, they have invested
so heavily in their lineup, and I credit them for it.
I mean, it's it's been a fascinating time to be
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covering the Padres or a fan of the Padres. Obviously,
with these massive deals one after the next, from Manny
to Toddy to Bogarts to Merrill, big pitching deals. I mean,
Darvish and Muscro are both getting, you know, one hundred
million dollar deals and so on and so forth. So
you know, some of them have worked out better than others.
I'd much prefer this then hey, let's just develop from
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within and never spend on free agency like the Pittsburgh
Pirates or the Baltimore Orioles. But it still has left
them somewhat exposed, so to speak, because I think, again,
you look at a pie and where you would want
to allocate your resources, and this pie is probably tilted
like off kilter because how they've spent on certain players
and then how they've like left open the exposure elsewhere
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with their roster.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And that's that's part of professional sports.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
You know, you spend in one area and you hope
to make up for it in another area. And right
now it just feels like they're payroll is probably a
little out of whack. And we'll see if they can
get it back under control, but that's not gonna be
easy with all these long term contracts. Again, Bogart's under
contract for eight more years. Like, ask yourself this, if
you're driving down the road right now, where are you
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going to be in eight years? Who knows, but that's
how long they're tied to Xander Bogart's. You know, they're
still tied to Toddy for I have no idea how many
more years. It's more than eight. I don't know if
it's nine or ten. It's somewhere in that neighborhood. Again,
where are you going to be in ten years? You
got kids? Imagine your kids in ten years, I mean
they're out of the house, potentially maybe working maybe from
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little of big. I mean, there's so many things can happen.
But again, these contracts are not flexible. These are fixed
contracts that are impacting the padres for not just days
and weeks and months or even a year. They're impacting
the padres for the long term and there's some benefits
to that, and there's also some consequences to that. We'll
see what it looks like when it's all put together
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here in twenty twenty six, let's give away the four
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We'll give them away next so do not call now.
We'll do it on the other side of a break.
Plus much more on this with Kevin, a c or
Padres insider from the UT.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
He will join us coming up at four pm.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
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