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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We might as well say hi, we got him here
with us right now. Brian Panibecker is here. I want
to hold him over past the break if we can.
But Auto workers for Trump last night, big splash. They're
in Warren the first hundred days, and Brian, I know
that folks watching had to be thinking the same thing.
We know you're fired up. President Trump's fired up, but
(00:23):
I think you know America has a right to be
fired up with everything they're seeing play out in the
first hundred days. What does it mean for the auto
manufacturing industry.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, justin first, I'd like to say, just for the
sake of getting it out there, the legacy media and
the corporate media keep saying that Trump's pull numbers are
going down and Trump voters have buyer's remorse. Well, that's
real news to me because I haven't spoken to one
Trump voter who is disappointed with anything he's done, because
(00:57):
he has kept every campaign on this that he made.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Everything he's doing he said he was going.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
To do when he campaigned, So we knew what we
were getting and we're loving every minute of it. As
far as what it means to the auto industry, this
is what we've been waiting for for thirty or forty years.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ross Parrot famously said in nineteen ninety two, if napped out,
which they were talking about at that time, if it
gets signed into law, we're going to hear a giant
sucking sound and that'll be all of our jobs leaving
and going to Mexico. Well, Ross was right. I voted
for Ross Paro back then, and he was right. We've
lost ninety thousand manufacturing facilities in the thirty years since then.
(01:41):
And then we allowed China into the World Trade Organization
and they've been doing nothing but ripping us off, hitting
and stealing our intellectual property since then. So we've been
waiting for a president who had the Cavonis to stand
up to China and other foreign countries who have been
taking advantage of America for decades. And he's doing it.
(02:02):
This guy has as a spine of steel.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, I love it. You know. I gotta tell you
the one thing, uh, the one thing about all of this.
And by the way, let's play a little bit. Let's
play a little clip, because this is this is brilliant.
This is Brian last night and he was we.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All know this, but we have the greatest president probably
not just in our lifetimes, but in the history of
this country. This man broke the mold in his first term,
and in his first hundred days he's accomplished more.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Than Joe Biden did in four years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I gotta ask when we come back. Brian Pannabecker with
us right now, auto Workers for Trump, let me come back.
There's a couple of people asking, Brian, when when are
you going to throw your hat in the ring and
run for something. We gotta ask that question. Plus, I
want to find out because President Trump just made some
changes to the tariffs SENCIDENTTA being really praised by lots
(03:11):
of folks in the auto industry. Some people say, what
any cave on something. I don't. Actually it's the opposite.
I think what he's done is really strategic. I want
to get your take on that too. Coming up, Hang on,
folks back with Brian Pannabecker, Auto Workers for Trump Beck
after this on West Michigan Live. Hey we got We're
(03:34):
back on the air, flying right through it, Man oh Man.
Last night was a whirlwin. Yesterday, big breaking news all
throughout the state. Nationally, President Trump's celebrating his first one
hundred days right here in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I want to say thank you to the auto workers,
everybody who works in the automotive field, the suppliers, every
one of you, the truck drivers. Thank you so much
for supporting the greatest president in our lifetimes.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Brian Panabeker auto workers for Trump last night and the
friend of the show. Always always a pleasure to have
you on. Brian. I got to ask you because big
announcements made yesterday. We heard all about Selfridge and the
F fifteen's and that was huge news here. But there's
tariff news too, which is really fascinating now the auto
workers in the industry, at least, it seems like the
(04:31):
unions have come behind these tariffs and they really like it.
I've spoken with various folks, particularly in the previous cabinet
under President Trump, who can't say enough great things about
these tariffs and what they're going to accomplish and how
we need to get things balanced as far as trade
goes back on track, but particularly here in back in
(04:53):
Michigan specifically, and for folks blue collar like yourself at
that are going to make things, we need to make
things great things in America and again and specifically Michigan.
I think that these things are going to have a
big role, to play a big role in it all.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You're exactly right, Justin And I was briefed a little
bit about the tariff announcement yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, he's not caving. He's not giving in, not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
As a matter of fact, he's doubling down and refining
and fine tuning his tariff announcement. He put together a
great team of negotiators. Those guys that he has are phenomenal.
And what they did was, and this is what I
was told. They went to the President and they said, sir,
(05:42):
some of these auto parts crossed the border up to
believe it or not, seven times, and they it's just
not going to be practical or doable to tariff that
part essentially seven times. That would you know, they just
can't do it. And they can't move that production of
that part back to the United States quick enough. It
(06:05):
would just be super expensive. So he's given them some
time to readjust their supply chain. What that translates into
is bring your plants in your production facilities, your supply
chain back to the United States. So they figured out
a formula so that the same part that maybe shipped
(06:29):
over a border and then put into another assembly and
then shipped back. Isn't getting double and triple taxed by
the tariff. These guys understand a very complex issue. They're
advising the president here's how you need to tweak your policy,
and that's what he's doing. He relies on some very
brilliant advisors, and that was the announcement he made yesterday.
(06:53):
So everybody just needs I've been advising people justin be patient,
have faith and trust Trump. He's surrounded by brilliant people,
starting with Elon Musk, but he's got Steve Besson and
the whole re assembly of his advisors. They're all brilliant.
So just watch this man work. And he pasit the
(07:15):
tariffs for ninety days to give all of these countries
that we trade with time to get over here, sit down.
They can't sign a deal. It's not like just a
handshake bo it's done. They have to work through all
the details, so it's going to take time. He's close
to a couple real big signings from what I understand.
In the next week or two he should have some
(07:35):
big announcements and the rest will fall in line. They
can kind of use the initial agreements as a pattern
to negotiate with other countries. You know, they'll make their
modifications and changes. Everybody's a little different. But at the
end of this ninety days, a lot of big agreements
should be complete. And then in the next six months
(07:56):
or so, I think he'll have the vast majority of
our nine year old, hundred biggest trading partners with new
trade agreements, and we'll all have lower barriers to each
other's products, and that will bring down the price of
a lot of things, along with his energy policies which
are bringing down energy prices, which will reduce transportation prices
(08:19):
and consumer goods. So everybody should just be patient, have
faith and trust Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Brian Panibecker, autoworkers for Trump. He's not the only one
that says this is a good deal. In fact, Fords
CEO Jim Farley is out talking about how great it is.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Well, first of all, Ford is really different. We make
eighty percent in the US, more than any other manufacturer.
In fact, we made four hundred thousand more vehicles than
our next competitor, and that would fill up the entire
island in Manhattan. That's how big of a gap we've made.
So look, we think this is really great for the country.
We really support the President's initiative. We never left the
(08:56):
America on car production, and so this moderation is reasonable.
I think for mostly our competitors, they need more time.
But at Ford, we're in good shape and this is
the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We really appreciate the.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Dialogue we've had with the President, but we have a
lot more work to do with him and the team.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, it's interesting because Brian, the way I see this
is a this is a road really to bringing the
manufacturing back here. Some of these places, as you mentioned
on the last you know, decades, they've shipped manufacturing Canada, Mexico,
all over the world, some of these some of these
parts and then they assemble even like Ford. You know,
(09:37):
a lot of this stuff has assembled here, but it's
some of these parts are made all over at the
end of at the end of the day, we've got
to have a road to get these guys back. Can't
just yank the plug on him. Now he did sort
of do that, I think to get them in line
at first, and this is all art of the deal.
Uh yeah, But now they're lining up and they're saying
(09:58):
thank you, mister president. They're listening, they're having these conversations
that it looks like it's going to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, well, he can't fix what happened over thirty to
forty years in three or four weeks. Okay, he's been
in office for fourteen weeks, and the legacy media, corporate
media are trying to spin that and say, well, you
know what's he accomplished. It's like six days after he
was in office, they were screaming, how come the price
(10:26):
of eggs haven't come down? So you know, some people
will fall for that, but most news consumers are smart
enough to realize the old media, the legacy corporate media,
are trying to tear Trump down. You guys, justin are
the new mainstream media. Guys like you and Joe Rogan
and all the other podcasters that are available accessible. More
(10:50):
and more people are turning to you for the truth,
the actual facts. You guys dig into issues and you
give them the straight truth. And that's all we want
from our news sources is the facts and the truth.
The legacy media got so far away from that. All
they have is a narrative and whatever the Democrats talking
(11:10):
points are, that's what they pair it. People are waking
up to it. Nobody's watching the legacy media anymore. They're
turning to guys like you to find out what's really
going on.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, we appreciate you taking the time to be here
with guys like me. Now, I know you're going to
be on a good Fox business you were on last night,
You're gonna be on again. You got a big TV yet,
litt Laura, and I guarantee they're going to all be
asking questions about all these things. But two questions. Somebody asked, Brian,
when are you going to run for something you trump?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I got a real short answer for you. That ain't happening.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I love being an activist. I love being involved.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I like working on issues out here in the public
and trying to change public perception, educating, motivating people. I
did announce I was going to run for state represent
representative about fifteen years ago, but a guy named Pete
Licito was also running for that same seat. In the primary.
Him and I teamed up. I said, Pete, I'll pull out.
(12:09):
You got all the money, I'll support you. And he
went on to do a great job, became state rep
State senator, and now he's our county prosecutor.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Hear in McComb. I'm good friends with Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That was my one little dipping my toe into the
political arena. I like being behind the scenes doing things
like I'm doing now with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But all those details will be in my book.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Justin you are certainly walking out your calling right now.
I tell you that much, Brandy, We appreciate you for it. Now,
you just mentioned the book last night. You got a
deal done with the toughest deal maker there is. What's
that deal?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The deal is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I went backstage with him and I real quickly said, hey,
mister President, And that's how I talked to him. We're
on a sort of an informal basis. And it's funny
because there's a lot of advisors and secret service standing around.
There's probably a ten or twelve people in that little
area where you're getting your picture taken. And I said, hey,
mister President, I got an offer for you that he
(13:09):
can't refuse. And he starts laughing because he likes to
joke around like that. And I said, you've got a
publishing company, I'm writing a book. I said, I'll make
you a deal. I'll use your publishing company if you
write the forward for my book. He didn't hesitate. He
stuck his hand out and said I'll do it. So
as I said, we got our picture. I started walking away,
and he says, call Sergio. Well, Sergio is the partner
(13:33):
of Donald Junior that runs the publishing company. It's called
Winning Team Publishing. And the reason they started that publishing
company was nobody would publish Donald Trump. The five big
publishers wouldn't touch him back in twenty twenty one. They
thought he was toxing. Well, they're idiots because they could
have made millions of dollars by publishing Donald Trump. So
(13:54):
he started his own publishing company, Winning Team Publishing, and
so he's going to publish my book and write.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
The forward for it. So then get a load of
this justin. I locked him in.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
When I went up on stage later in front of
seven or eight thousand people, I talked about it, so
you know, and then I turned around to him. I
pointed at him. I said, that's how you deal with
the best negotiator.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was hilarious and he loved it. I think he
got a kick out him.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Maybe you got to give you a chapter in the
revised version of the Art of the Deal. I love it. Brian.
What's the name of your book and when can we
expect it coming out?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The working title of the book is blue Collar Conservative,
which would be me. It's sort of semi autobiographical and
it's going to be about The subtitle is from Reagan
to Trump, and it's going to cover my upbringing in
McComb County, the home of the Reagan Democrats. My first
vote was for Ronald Reagan when I was eighteen nineteen
(14:55):
years old.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And then my.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Becoming an adult and kind of politically aware, I got
involved with two big statewide political issues. The first was
the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative, which became Prop two in
two thousand and six. I was a statewide spokesman for
that effort, and we banned the use of racial preferences
(15:18):
by the government in college missions, state hiring, and state contracting.
I worked side by side with Jennifer Gratz, the U
of M student who has denied it admission to u
of M even though her test scores were way higher
than a lot of minority applicants. And then a couple
of years later I got involved with the Right to
Work effort, which was a real interesting situation because I
(15:42):
was working in a UAW shop and Right to Work
as anathma to the UA to unions and Michigan's the
home of the birthplace of the UAW. So that was
a legislative effort. We got that introduced and passed. There's
a whole story behind it, it'll be in the book.
(16:04):
And then a couple of years after we got Right
to Work pass, I met Donald Trump in Nova and
told him he had to come to McComb County, Michigan
and ask for the Reagan Democrats support. And then that
relationship I'll talk about in the book, all the way
through being invited to the White House on Liberation Day,
April second, where he announced his tariff agenda and he
(16:28):
called me up in front of the entire world to
speak about it, which was an incredible honor. And then
that's continued right through last night here in McComb County,
where he came on his one hundredth day in office,
called me up on stage, recognized me, agreed to publish
my book. So it's going to be a good book,
(16:48):
and I'll tell the whole story in that. We're about
twenty thousand words in. It'll be about eighty thousand, which
sounds intimidating, but it's only about twenty chapters, and it'll
cover those four areas, McComb County, Michigan, Civil Rights Initiative,
the right to work, and my relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Political junkies will love it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, don't let the ink try too fast. I have
a feeling you're just getting started here, Brian.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, well, I'm writing chapters every week. It seems like.
I told my co author last night. I texted him,
I said, yeah, I just wrote another chapter in the book.
I'll tell you all about it next week. He's in
Florida and we're talking over the phone, and he's flying
up in a week or so to get all of
my newspaper clippings, articles, columns that I've written. When I
(17:36):
was working on all these issues as spokesman, I had
numerous columns.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
In the Detroit News, Detroit Free Press.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I even had columns in the New York Times, Wall
Street Journal, USA Today because those were national issues, right,
I mean, they were getting national coverage. So I've got
all that information that'll tell the story. He's going to
fly up from Florida. I'm going to drive him around
McComb County because he's a Wisconsin guy who lives in
(18:03):
Florida now. But I want him to see McComb County,
get a feel for it, see where I work, see
all the automotive plants, and get a sense of where
I grew up. I grew up about a mile away
from the plant I ended up working twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Years at, So there's a real story there.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It'll be coming out hopefully by November one, just in
time for Christmas gift buying season.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here you go, Brian Panabacker Auto Workers for Trump. Thank you,
my friend, always a pleasure, and thank you for everything
you're doing for that. Thank you justin stand to fight.
You got it.
We might as well say hi, we got him here
with us right now. Brian Panibecker is here. I want
to hold him over past the break if we can.
But Auto workers for Trump last night, big splash. They're
in Warren the first hundred days, and Brian, I know
that folks watching had to be thinking the same thing.
We know you're fired up. President Trump's fired up, but
(00:23):
I think you know America has a right to be
fired up with everything they're seeing play out in the
first hundred days. What does it mean for the auto
manufacturing industry.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, justin first, I'd like to say, just for the
sake of getting it out there, the legacy media and
the corporate media keep saying that Trump's pull numbers are
going down and Trump voters have buyer's remorse. Well, that's
real news to me because I haven't spoken to one
Trump voter who is disappointed with anything he's done, because
(00:57):
he has kept every campaign on this that he made.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Everything he's doing he said he was going.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
To do when he campaigned, So we knew what we
were getting and we're loving every minute of it. As
far as what it means to the auto industry, this
is what we've been waiting for for thirty or forty years.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ross Parrot famously said in nineteen ninety two, if napped out,
which they were talking about at that time, if it
gets signed into law, we're going to hear a giant
sucking sound and that'll be all of our jobs leaving
and going to Mexico. Well, Ross was right. I voted
for Ross Paro back then, and he was right. We've
lost ninety thousand manufacturing facilities in the thirty years since then.
(01:41):
And then we allowed China into the World Trade Organization
and they've been doing nothing but ripping us off, hitting
and stealing our intellectual property since then. So we've been
waiting for a president who had the Cavonis to stand
up to China and other foreign countries who have been
taking advantage of America for decades. And he's doing it.
(02:02):
This guy has as a spine of steel.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, I love it. You know. I gotta tell you
the one thing, uh, the one thing about all of this.
And by the way, let's play a little bit. Let's
play a little clip, because this is this is brilliant.
This is Brian last night and he was we.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All know this, but we have the greatest president probably
not just in our lifetimes, but in the history of
this country. This man broke the mold in his first term,
and in his first hundred days he's accomplished more.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Than Joe Biden did in four years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I gotta ask when we come back. Brian Pannabecker with
us right now, auto Workers for Trump, let me come back.
There's a couple of people asking, Brian, when when are
you going to throw your hat in the ring and
run for something. We gotta ask that question. Plus, I
want to find out because President Trump just made some
changes to the tariffs SENCIDENTTA being really praised by lots
(03:11):
of folks in the auto industry. Some people say, what
any cave on something. I don't. Actually it's the opposite.
I think what he's done is really strategic. I want
to get your take on that too. Coming up, Hang on,
folks back with Brian Pannabecker, Auto Workers for Trump Beck
after this on West Michigan Live. Hey we got We're
(03:34):
back on the air, flying right through it, Man oh Man.
Last night was a whirlwin. Yesterday, big breaking news all
throughout the state. Nationally, President Trump's celebrating his first one
hundred days right here in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I want to say thank you to the auto workers,
everybody who works in the automotive field, the suppliers, every
one of you, the truck drivers. Thank you so much
for supporting the greatest president in our lifetimes.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Brian Panabeker auto workers for Trump last night and the
friend of the show. Always always a pleasure to have
you on. Brian. I got to ask you because big
announcements made yesterday. We heard all about Selfridge and the
F fifteen's and that was huge news here. But there's
tariff news too, which is really fascinating now the auto
workers in the industry, at least, it seems like the
(04:31):
unions have come behind these tariffs and they really like it.
I've spoken with various folks, particularly in the previous cabinet
under President Trump, who can't say enough great things about
these tariffs and what they're going to accomplish and how
we need to get things balanced as far as trade
goes back on track, but particularly here in back in
(04:53):
Michigan specifically, and for folks blue collar like yourself at
that are going to make things, we need to make
things great things in America and again and specifically Michigan.
I think that these things are going to have a
big role, to play a big role in it all.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You're exactly right, Justin And I was briefed a little
bit about the tariff announcement yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, he's not caving. He's not giving in, not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
As a matter of fact, he's doubling down and refining
and fine tuning his tariff announcement. He put together a
great team of negotiators. Those guys that he has are phenomenal.
And what they did was, and this is what I
was told. They went to the President and they said, sir,
(05:42):
some of these auto parts crossed the border up to
believe it or not, seven times, and they it's just
not going to be practical or doable to tariff that
part essentially seven times. That would you know, they just
can't do it. And they can't move that production of
that part back to the United States quick enough. It
(06:05):
would just be super expensive. So he's given them some
time to readjust their supply chain. What that translates into
is bring your plants in your production facilities, your supply
chain back to the United States. So they figured out
a formula so that the same part that maybe shipped
(06:29):
over a border and then put into another assembly and
then shipped back. Isn't getting double and triple taxed by
the tariff. These guys understand a very complex issue. They're
advising the president here's how you need to tweak your policy,
and that's what he's doing. He relies on some very
brilliant advisors, and that was the announcement he made yesterday.
(06:53):
So everybody just needs I've been advising people justin be patient,
have faith and trust Trump. He's surrounded by brilliant people,
starting with Elon Musk, but he's got Steve Besson and
the whole re assembly of his advisors. They're all brilliant.
So just watch this man work. And he pasit the
(07:15):
tariffs for ninety days to give all of these countries
that we trade with time to get over here, sit down.
They can't sign a deal. It's not like just a
handshake bo it's done. They have to work through all
the details, so it's going to take time. He's close
to a couple real big signings from what I understand.
In the next week or two he should have some
(07:35):
big announcements and the rest will fall in line. They
can kind of use the initial agreements as a pattern
to negotiate with other countries. You know, they'll make their
modifications and changes. Everybody's a little different. But at the
end of this ninety days, a lot of big agreements
should be complete. And then in the next six months
(07:56):
or so, I think he'll have the vast majority of
our nine year old, hundred biggest trading partners with new
trade agreements, and we'll all have lower barriers to each
other's products, and that will bring down the price of
a lot of things, along with his energy policies which
are bringing down energy prices, which will reduce transportation prices
(08:19):
and consumer goods. So everybody should just be patient, have
faith and trust Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Brian Panibecker, autoworkers for Trump. He's not the only one
that says this is a good deal. In fact, Fords
CEO Jim Farley is out talking about how great it is.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Well, first of all, Ford is really different. We make
eighty percent in the US, more than any other manufacturer.
In fact, we made four hundred thousand more vehicles than
our next competitor, and that would fill up the entire
island in Manhattan. That's how big of a gap we've made.
So look, we think this is really great for the country.
We really support the President's initiative. We never left the
(08:56):
America on car production, and so this moderation is reasonable.
I think for mostly our competitors, they need more time.
But at Ford, we're in good shape and this is
the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We really appreciate the.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Dialogue we've had with the President, but we have a
lot more work to do with him and the team.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, it's interesting because Brian, the way I see this
is a this is a road really to bringing the
manufacturing back here. Some of these places, as you mentioned
on the last you know, decades, they've shipped manufacturing Canada, Mexico,
all over the world, some of these some of these
parts and then they assemble even like Ford. You know,
(09:37):
a lot of this stuff has assembled here, but it's
some of these parts are made all over at the
end of at the end of the day, we've got
to have a road to get these guys back. Can't
just yank the plug on him. Now he did sort
of do that, I think to get them in line
at first, and this is all art of the deal.
Uh yeah, But now they're lining up and they're saying
(09:58):
thank you, mister president. They're listening, they're having these conversations
that it looks like it's going to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, well, he can't fix what happened over thirty to
forty years in three or four weeks. Okay, he's been
in office for fourteen weeks, and the legacy media, corporate
media are trying to spin that and say, well, you
know what's he accomplished. It's like six days after he
was in office, they were screaming, how come the price
(10:26):
of eggs haven't come down? So you know, some people
will fall for that, but most news consumers are smart
enough to realize the old media, the legacy corporate media,
are trying to tear Trump down. You guys, justin are
the new mainstream media. Guys like you and Joe Rogan
and all the other podcasters that are available accessible. More
(10:50):
and more people are turning to you for the truth,
the actual facts. You guys dig into issues and you
give them the straight truth. And that's all we want
from our news sources is the facts and the truth.
The legacy media got so far away from that. All
they have is a narrative and whatever the Democrats talking
(11:10):
points are, that's what they pair it. People are waking
up to it. Nobody's watching the legacy media anymore. They're
turning to guys like you to find out what's really
going on.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, we appreciate you taking the time to be here
with guys like me. Now, I know you're going to
be on a good Fox business you were on last night,
You're gonna be on again. You got a big TV yet,
litt Laura, and I guarantee they're going to all be
asking questions about all these things. But two questions. Somebody asked, Brian,
when are you going to run for something you trump?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I got a real short answer for you. That ain't happening.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I love being an activist. I love being involved.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I like working on issues out here in the public
and trying to change public perception, educating, motivating people. I
did announce I was going to run for state represent
representative about fifteen years ago, but a guy named Pete
Licito was also running for that same seat. In the primary.
Him and I teamed up. I said, Pete, I'll pull out.
(12:09):
You got all the money, I'll support you. And he
went on to do a great job, became state rep
State senator, and now he's our county prosecutor.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Hear in McComb. I'm good friends with Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That was my one little dipping my toe into the
political arena. I like being behind the scenes doing things
like I'm doing now with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But all those details will be in my book.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Justin you are certainly walking out your calling right now.
I tell you that much, Brandy, We appreciate you for it. Now,
you just mentioned the book last night. You got a
deal done with the toughest deal maker there is. What's
that deal?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The deal is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I went backstage with him and I real quickly said, hey,
mister President, And that's how I talked to him. We're
on a sort of an informal basis. And it's funny
because there's a lot of advisors and secret service standing around.
There's probably a ten or twelve people in that little
area where you're getting your picture taken. And I said, hey,
mister President, I got an offer for you that he
(13:09):
can't refuse. And he starts laughing because he likes to
joke around like that. And I said, you've got a
publishing company, I'm writing a book. I said, I'll make
you a deal. I'll use your publishing company if you
write the forward for my book. He didn't hesitate. He
stuck his hand out and said I'll do it. So
as I said, we got our picture. I started walking away,
and he says, call Sergio. Well, Sergio is the partner
(13:33):
of Donald Junior that runs the publishing company. It's called
Winning Team Publishing. And the reason they started that publishing
company was nobody would publish Donald Trump. The five big
publishers wouldn't touch him back in twenty twenty one. They
thought he was toxing. Well, they're idiots because they could
have made millions of dollars by publishing Donald Trump. So
(13:54):
he started his own publishing company, Winning Team Publishing, and
so he's going to publish my book and write.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
The forward for it. So then get a load of
this justin. I locked him in.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
When I went up on stage later in front of
seven or eight thousand people, I talked about it, so
you know, and then I turned around to him. I
pointed at him. I said, that's how you deal with
the best negotiator.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was hilarious and he loved it. I think he
got a kick out him.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Maybe you got to give you a chapter in the
revised version of the Art of the Deal. I love it. Brian.
What's the name of your book and when can we
expect it coming out?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The working title of the book is blue Collar Conservative,
which would be me. It's sort of semi autobiographical and
it's going to be about The subtitle is from Reagan
to Trump, and it's going to cover my upbringing in
McComb County, the home of the Reagan Democrats. My first
vote was for Ronald Reagan when I was eighteen nineteen
(14:55):
years old.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And then my.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Becoming an adult and kind of politically aware, I got
involved with two big statewide political issues. The first was
the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative, which became Prop two in
two thousand and six. I was a statewide spokesman for
that effort, and we banned the use of racial preferences
(15:18):
by the government in college missions, state hiring, and state contracting.
I worked side by side with Jennifer Gratz, the U
of M student who has denied it admission to u
of M even though her test scores were way higher
than a lot of minority applicants. And then a couple
of years later I got involved with the Right to
Work effort, which was a real interesting situation because I
(15:42):
was working in a UAW shop and Right to Work
as anathma to the UA to unions and Michigan's the
home of the birthplace of the UAW. So that was
a legislative effort. We got that introduced and passed. There's
a whole story behind it, it'll be in the book.
(16:04):
And then a couple of years after we got Right
to Work pass, I met Donald Trump in Nova and
told him he had to come to McComb County, Michigan
and ask for the Reagan Democrats support. And then that
relationship I'll talk about in the book, all the way
through being invited to the White House on Liberation Day,
April second, where he announced his tariff agenda and he
(16:28):
called me up in front of the entire world to
speak about it, which was an incredible honor. And then
that's continued right through last night here in McComb County,
where he came on his one hundredth day in office,
called me up on stage, recognized me, agreed to publish
my book. So it's going to be a good book,
(16:48):
and I'll tell the whole story in that. We're about
twenty thousand words in. It'll be about eighty thousand, which
sounds intimidating, but it's only about twenty chapters, and it'll
cover those four areas, McComb County, Michigan, Civil Rights Initiative,
the right to work, and my relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Political junkies will love it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, don't let the ink try too fast. I have
a feeling you're just getting started here, Brian.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, well, I'm writing chapters every week. It seems like.
I told my co author last night. I texted him,
I said, yeah, I just wrote another chapter in the book.
I'll tell you all about it next week. He's in
Florida and we're talking over the phone, and he's flying
up in a week or so to get all of
my newspaper clippings, articles, columns that I've written. When I
(17:36):
was working on all these issues as spokesman, I had
numerous columns.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
In the Detroit News, Detroit Free Press.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I even had columns in the New York Times, Wall
Street Journal, USA Today because those were national issues, right,
I mean, they were getting national coverage. So I've got
all that information that'll tell the story. He's going to
fly up from Florida. I'm going to drive him around
McComb County because he's a Wisconsin guy who lives in
(18:03):
Florida now. But I want him to see McComb County,
get a feel for it, see where I work, see
all the automotive plants, and get a sense of where
I grew up. I grew up about a mile away
from the plant I ended up working twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Years at, So there's a real story there.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It'll be coming out hopefully by November one, just in
time for Christmas gift buying season.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here you go, Brian Panabacker Auto Workers for Trump. Thank you,
my friend, always a pleasure, and thank you for everything
you're doing for that. Thank you justin stand to fight.
You got it.
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