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Donald Trump, NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and
they won't be there if we need them again. Remember Greenland,
(02:45):
that big, poorly run piece of ice, President Donald J. Trump,
he signs it, President dj T. There was NATO Day yesterday,
NATO Day at the White House. President Trump not sugarcoating
any thing about NATO. Why all of this is interesting,
why all of it matters. In fact, there's maybe we'll
(03:07):
take you behind the curtain and show you some interesting
things today. But trumb lashing out as you remember at
NATO when he said just that they weren't there when we.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Needa God, and then they're coming for Europe. And I
have to tell you, I'm very disappointed in NATO.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Very I think that NATO.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think it's a mark on NATO that will never disappear,
never disappear in my mind. You know, they're coming to
see me on Whynesday. They're going to say, oh, we'll
do this, we'll do that. Now they all of a
sudden want to send things, you know. But they said
it loud and clear at the beginning when I spoke
to the UK of all, I would have said they
would have been there first, because they've been they're the oldest.
And I say, yeah, I'd love to have a little help.
(03:50):
Said no, so we'd rather wait till you win. I said,
I don't need help after we win. They have two old,
broken aircraft carriers barely work. I said, I guess we
can some who the hell knows. I called it generally.
He didn't even want He said, we don't really need
we got we got the SS Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Sir, we don't need him. You know we have in.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Terms of technology. We had one day, one hundred and
one missiles going at two thousand, seven hundred miles an
hour aimed at the Abraham Lincoln one hundred and one missiles.
Out of one hundred and one missiles, one hundred and
one missiles were shot down.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Incredible. Uh and yeah, so that's the latest on NATO. Obviously,
Ruda there yesterday. Now he says that he likes Ruda,
he likes the guy who runs NATO. Again. Uh, NATO
Secretary General. I think we played some of this for
you earlier from Jake Tapper's interview. They tried to get
(04:49):
him at a kind of like a gotcha moment here
he is ris, hang on, ay on, let me let
me read, let me readdress this all right. Here he
has one pulled up so you can fully see.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It to the North Korea moment where you talk so
long that at a certain moment, it's beyond the point
where you can still get this done, because then they
would get their hands on the nuclear capacity, and that
is that is basically a big risk for Europe. It
is existential for Israel, it is existential for the Middle East.
(05:25):
So the whole world is safer by this president degrading
those capabilities. But a lot of this is by many
europe acknowledged, and they understand that continuing talking to get
this done would have brought us potentially past that moment
where we can still deal with it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
So you talked about the statement of NATO allied countries
about the Strait of Horror moves, about trying to figure
out a way forward. Here is the White House Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt when asked about the joint statement from
the NATO governments about the Strait of horm moves.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Here's what she had to say. I have a direct
quote from the President of the United States on NATO,
and I will.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Share it with all of you.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
They were tested and they failed. Do you agree that
NATO countries some of them were tested and failed.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Some of them, yes, But a large majority of European countries,
and that's what we discussed today, have done what they
promised before in a case like this because they know
that when it comes to NATO, it's there to protect
the United States because US needs a secure Atlantic and
a secure Article and secure Europe to stay safe here
the US mainland. But it is also there to make
(06:29):
sure that of course Europe is safe and to to
be this this this this platform of power projection for
the United States.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, it is. It is a question, why are we
still in NATO. They don't seem to pay their bills, right,
they don't seem to pay Does he want to get
out of it all together? Or does he want them
to pay their fair share? Which again, you know that's
the kind of language we've heard for you know, quite
some time now, right, pay their fair share? Is what
does he want to have happen? That's that's a very
(07:03):
good question. Where are we going? What is at stake?
What's up ahead? And I think those are all those
are all fair. Again, he was asked earlier, what do
you think is the Is the world safer now?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Then it then it was since we've dealt with a
Ran and.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Then you can negotiate any longer and they have that power.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Is the world safer today than it was before the
war was started?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Absolutely? Because and this is things to President Trump's leadership,
the degrading these capabilities is really really very important for
your and my safety here in the US, in Europe,
in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Are you yeah, that's obvious, That's obvious. Another gotcha question.
They tried to try to get him the prospective guy's
not gonna talk about about Trump since he's here in
d C. They they tend to have a good relationship
together anyway. And again this is this is something I
(08:01):
think we're going to watch in the coming days, how
these old alliances move forward. What happens do they do
they actually keep their word? Do they live up to
what they promised to do all these years or or not?
And it's important because there will come a day. There
(08:23):
will come a time and it may have just happened
where we needed them and we saw where they stood
and that's what Carolyn Lovett said with the test they
failed out of states.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I was saying, full play over the last six weeks.
And yes, it is true. Not all European nations lift
up to those commitments. And I totally understand that he
is disappointed about it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, that's that's that's the key. Even the NATO Secretary
General gets.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You have one to ten. One being not worried at all,
ten being terrified. You where do you leave Washington thinking
President Trump? Your opinion of President Trump wants to leave NATO?
Are you one? I'm not worried at all. Ten I'm
really worried Trump is going to pull out of NATO.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, I'm not going to get into that answering that question.
I'm just trying to But but what I felt today
this this was a meeting between friends because we like
each other. I really admire his leadership and and he
knows what he did in the Hague last year as
a NATO summit has been crucial and and Natal allies
are with him. But it comes to the aims of
(09:27):
taking out, as I said, degrading the nuclear and the
ballistic missile capacity of the Uranians. Yeah, but yes, the
United States was in full play.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So again, where where are we headed? Where is where's
all that going? Will we see a shift in the
power structure there altogether? There's somebody from Michigan that's got
a really interesting I Again, I haven't fully vetted. I
haven't gone into the you know, into into the deep
(09:58):
dive on this, but I will tell you I find
some of the stuff that i've that I've watched to
be kind of interesting. And I don't know if you
know who this is yet. I don't know if you've
been exposed to any of this. But a friend of
mine actually shared it with me, and one of the
things that he says, if you want to understand what
Donald Trump is really doing, you'll walk down this path
(10:20):
according to these folks, and you'll see every move at
a sort of a different Yeah, you'll see it from
a different perspective, I guess, is the best way to
put it. These are folks, and they're on YouTube, they're
on Facebook, they're on tik tok, the Dick dec.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
But at midnight last night, President Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Let me let me pause this so you can actually
you can watch this this.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
On Saturday and midnight last night, President Trump posted how.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do I make Do I make? Can I make this big?
Big screen? Oh? Yes, in full full screen? All right,
all right, that's what I'll do. All right, stand by,
I want you to see this full screen. This is
somebody called Susan Cokinda and uh, the she'll lay out
(11:17):
here a little bit of what she believes Trump is
doing behind the scenes. And it may make some of
the moves that you watch him pull off. It may
it may make it more clear for you. I'm I'm
not sold one hundred percent, but i am. I'm walking
this through. I'm I'm looking at what they what they
(11:40):
have to say. And her Prometheus group is what it's called.
Uh take a listen to see what you have to
say to this.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
A big day for world peace. They Run wants it
to happen. They've had enough, Big money will be made.
Ran can start the reconstruction process, just like we are
experience seeing in the US. This could be the Golden
Age of the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Iran chose civilization last night. For the first time in
forty seven years, a nation that the Empire condemned to
a dark age has a chance to walk off that chessboard.
Donald Trump gambled on civilization and won the first round.
Now here's what the War Party wants you to think.
They want you to think that Trump just let Iran
(12:25):
off the hook. Nata Yahoo warned Trump against this ceasefire.
Lindsey Graham is calling for congressional hearings. Well, they're all wrong,
and the fact that they're not happy is the proof.
I'm Susan Cookinda, I've tracked the Imperial great game in
the Mid East for decades. What you're watching in Iran
isn't another chapter in their post war system. It's a
(12:46):
direct challenge to it. And if you want to follow
this civilizational fight, then hit those like share and subscribe
buttons so we can stay in touch and keep growing.
Here's what we're covering today, what President Trump actually did
in Iran and what the War Party's reaction tells you
about it. What Vice President J. D. Vance said about
(13:06):
civilization in Budapest and why he contrasted it to the nihilists.
And President Trump's called to the astronauts about taking civilization
to the stars. Now here's what the President posted on
truth social about the ceasefire announcement. I agree to suspend
the bombing and attack of Iran. For a period of
(13:27):
two weeks. This will be a double sided ceasefire. We
have already met and exceeded all military objectives and are
very far along with a definitive agreement concerning long term
peace with Iran and peace in the Middle East. And
then Trump did something extraordinary. He posted Iran's own official
statement confirming the ceasefire and the opening of the strait.
(13:50):
He amplified Tehran's acceptance because this isn't an enemy being crushed,
It's a country beginning to choose civilization. Now to understand
stand why that matters, you have to understand what the
Mid East has actually been in the Imperial Great Game.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Now, I don't want to I don't want to interrupt
her too much because she's going to get into some
of the meat here of about why you're seeing some
of the things you've seen, and particularly if you look
at Venezuela or maybe happening with Cuba particularly, and then
and then Iran plays into the same sort of picture
here and why this is important where she's going with this.
(14:26):
But she's right. President Trump does not want to annihilate,
obliterate the enemy. He wants to do something completely separat
and completely different. He also wants to pull out or
away from the US being bogged down and involved in
any of this. And if you hear her explanation for it,
I think it makes a lot of sense. It makes
(14:47):
more sense then some of the Pannican stuff that I've
seen play out. Uh And and like they've never read
his book, Like they don't know who the guy is,
Like they never covered him for the last ten twenty years.
It's wild again. This is Susic Cokenda Prometheus. I think
(15:07):
it's called Prometheus organization, Prometheus groo bugget the full name
for him. But check this out.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Empire built it as a cockpit of war. They created
the Muslim Brotherhood, the mother of Islamic extremism. They simultaneously
cultivated revisionist Zionism, and then they played Arab against jew
SONI against Shia, nation against nation. Iran was drawn into
this architecture in nineteen fifty three when British and American
(15:33):
intelligence overthrew Mozadek his crime he wanted to use Iran's
oil to develop the country. By the nineteen seventies, the
Shah had launched an aggressive program of industrialization and modernization,
so the Empire reached for its oldest tool, religious extremism.
The Molas replaced the Shah, theocracy replaced development, and civilization
(15:55):
reversed into dark age. Donald Trump looked at that forty
seven years old trap and made a bet, not on
Iran's regime, on Iran's people. He gambled on civilization. Now,
let's look at who's not happy. Nettagnahoo warned Trump against
the ceasefire before it happened. Lindsey Graham invoked the Libya model.
(16:17):
That's not a model, it's a warning. Surrender your weapons
or uranium, and see what happens in Libya. Eight years
after they surrendered their weapons. A NATO back mob murdered Kadafi.
That's what the war party is offering Iran. Trump is
offering something entirely different. But Graham made sure to get
(16:37):
in the last word. This morning, he posted, I preferred
diplomacy if it leads to the right outcome regarding the
Iranian terrorist regime. That's why congressional review process like the
one the Senate followed to test the Obama Iranian deal
is a sound way forward. Did you catch that a
(16:58):
congressional review process in the middle of live delicate negotiations,
negotiations which by the way, don't directly involve Israel. But
President Trump is calling the shots, not Lindsey Graham, and
he's offering something else entirely. But how did he get here?
Not through NATO, not through the British, not through European
(17:19):
institutions that have managed the Mid East misery for a century.
Pakistan mediated the ceasefire with the involvement of Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
and Turkey. Egypt, Turkey, and Cutter were in the room
for the Goza negotiations. These are sovereign Muslim and Arab
nations that the Empire spent a century playing off against
(17:40):
each other, now acting as partners for peace. And Trump's
Board of Peace was built exactly for this. Now, let's
not forget who's not at the table. The Strait of
Hormus has been for generations financially managed through Lloyd's of London.
Trump's steal to reopen it, broken by Pakistan and including
(18:01):
her on, cuts the British financial architecture out of the
solution Entirely. The empire that built this cockpit of war
is not present as it gets dismantled. That's what a
civilizational gamble looks like when it starts to pay off,
not NATO, not London, but sovereign nations choosing to build
instead of destroy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm going to reach out, well, have a conversation I'm
sure in the days I had at some point with Susan,
because I really I think she puts a lot of thought.
They put a lot of work and effort and even
talent to what she's saying and what they do. And
I will tell you, I think it has a better
She has a better understanding of what's happening, what's going
(18:43):
on then most folks. Again we're a lot of us
are just we're watching some of these things that are happening.
We think we know, and we're trying to put the
pieces together and kind of explain that to you. One
thing is for sure, like I said, the videos are
very well done. She's very knowledgeable. I don't know, I'm
(19:05):
gonna have to do a little bit deeper dive. I
can't like just tell you like oh I sign on iveltry,
I endorse this that or the other person. I know
most people won't even share like you know, podcasters are streamings,
probably won't even share like other streamers and podcasts with
because they think they're in competition. I disagree. I think
we're working together to keep people informed. And I don't
(19:26):
think we all have all the answers. I think each
of us has a little piece here and a little
piece there, and we come together and we get a
better picture. It's a sort of like a mosaic or
a puzzle to seat like what everything looks like. So, Charlene,
that's a really interesting thought. That's a really interesting thought.
So anyway, in the days they had, we'll try and
see if we can sit down with her and get
(19:48):
a better picture. But what is for sure is that
what we are watching President Trump has thought about for decades.
What we are watching, the moves that he is making
is part of something that has been in in motion
for quite some time now. And there are there are
lots of people that don't want to see it happened.
(20:09):
There are lots of people that don't want to see
it come into play. And I think he is reshaping.
I got to be careful about how I how how
I worded this, because it's it's an explosive way to
put it. But he is reshaping the way things work
in the world and the way folks have wanted it
(20:30):
to work has been Promethean action. That's it. Yeah, Susan
cokinda Promethean action. By the way, if you want to
go follow her or put it, put it in the
stack today to it. He's reshaping, giving the power back
to the people, reshaping the way things have worked. All right,
So I wanted to play that for you so that
you could see it, so you can understand it yet
a little bit better grasp on some of the things
(20:53):
that we're watching and the way things are or are
playing out, and why we're seeing what we see play
out right in front of our very eyes. By the way,
here's the warning folks what the left wants to do
when they get back in power. From poster over on
(21:13):
X in wokeness. In fact, this is it, and I
know this is again why if you really want to
know why these elections matter so much, why it'll matter
in twenty twenty six, not just here locally obviously with
our state elections, but also our congressional elections, because we've
(21:36):
got to make sure that Trump has the ability to
fight back to do the things that he needs to do,
to do the things that he he needs to do
to finish this off part of what Susan's doing about.
But here's what the left wants to do to you.
I mean, crack down on social media speech, mass amnesty,
(21:56):
thirty million or more new voters in the filibuster pascotis
nationwide mail in and no voter ID for those ballots.
Fifty two states, DC and Puerto Rico will become states.
And the corruption as you can imagine, abolish the political
or the electoral college, MAGA, arrests, and the banking Why
(22:18):
why do we know this. It's because they were in
the middle of doing it before they were stopped the
first time. And why do I share it with you?
Because I think it's so important for us to really
understand how far we've come, how bad things were. Michigan
Democrat Party is going to have Kamala Harris here to
speak give a big keynote for their big convention coming up.
(22:41):
I think it's this weekend, and I don't think enough people,
particularly on the right, are really aware or remember how
bad it was. There's a lot of criticism for President
Trump right now and not a lot of lee. They
don't give him a lot of grace and understand, look
(23:05):
at all the things that we were facing, look at
what we were up against, look at what we escaped,
and how close we are, and do them to go
back there? And unfortunately, if if we don't follow through
and those very important things that need to take place,
(23:28):
I'll give you another podcast you can listen to. By
the way, I'm giving everybody, I'm giving all kinds of
podcast recommendations today. Well, here's a new one from RFK Junior.
He's launching a podcast, maybe the first time a Pod
Cabinet member has had a podcast. He's launching a podcast
to expose the lies that have made Americans sick and
(23:53):
seeing that, as you can imagine, did the did the
read up on that? And I'm sure it was fantastic
seeing and speaking speaking of RFK Jr, Bill Maher and
Cheryl Hines sharing the truth about Trump. And Cheryl Hines
(24:16):
is rf K Junior's wife. Now, I met him and
she was with him, and I probably should have said
hi to her too, because I did. Look, I understand,
I get it. You know, some of these Hollywood people
like Larry David's complete leftist. I'm sure it's not a fan,
(24:37):
not a fan of Trump. But I loved her on
that show. I thought she was fantastic. I've been a
long time since I've seen I don't know if they're
still making it. I really don't, but I don't watch
them at TV anymore and these days. But I loved
her on the show, so I didn't get to talk
to her. But she kind of had those same thoughts
about him. Seemed like Bill maher until she met him.
She said, he was just asking me about when I
(24:58):
met him what surprised me the most, and I said,
I was surprised that he really likes to listen to people.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
He's very curious and hated when I said that again,
because I'm just telling you what happened? Should I lie?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I guess?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
So I guess he kicked me in the ball under
the table, and then I knew he was He threw
the spaghetti against the wall when I raised the subject
of tariff no.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, I think he actually wants more people around him
for stimulating conversation. Yeah, I was very surprised and mentioned
it again. They hated before it that I suppose to
so many important people I've met who when you talk
to them, you don't feel like they're really listening. They're
(25:48):
kind of like, you know what I mean, and then
when they answer you, it doesn't quite track. You know,
you're just waiting for their turn to talk. Yes, or
they're just on this different level. I mean he just
show people too. I've had that, but I didn't get
that with him at all. I've got a guy who
looked in my eyes, Yes, was listening to what I said,
(26:08):
wait until I finished, even when it was contradictory, when
it was an he never got blustery or mad about it.
You know, he said some things that I don't agree with,
and some things that I think are just you know,
plainly not right, Like you know, third term, I think
you could do it. I'm having people look into it. No,
you can't do it, and you could have people look
(26:29):
into it from now to the end of time. It's
like twelve words in the Constitution. You can't do it.
But he didn't get mad, right, And then I also
made the point that you know, I went home that
night and I was getting into bed in sixty minutes.
I taped it, and there he is in sixty minutes,
and he's like renting and raving. I'm like, who is
this guy. It's not the guy I met. Yeah, So
(26:53):
I'm just I'm just the reporter here. I'm just telling you,
this is my experience. If this is Doctor Jekyll and
mister Hyde, a way to work with Doctor Jackyll.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
They don't they don't want it. They don't want to
hear that. They don't even want you to think that
he's a human being. That's that's part of the problem.
That's part of what well, that's what they're the dehumanizing
effort is is meant to do just that, to make
people think that this person is a monster. And there's
just nothing you can ever have in common. You never
have a good conversation. There's nothing you can do it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That was interesting though, great, great little and you see
the people like that kind of moving Bill Maher, you know,
moving to the right side of the aisle in some ways.
But just truth, logic and common sense. He's kind of
always been somebody open for that. Hey, today, thank you
for sharing sharing his caring Sheriff you care. We always
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Donald Trump, NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and
they won't be there if we need them again. Remember Greenland,
(02:45):
that big, poorly run piece of ice, President Donald J. Trump,
he signs it, President dj T. There was NATO Day yesterday,
NATO Day at the White House. President Trump not sugarcoating
any thing about NATO. Why all of this is interesting,
why all of it matters. In fact, there's maybe we'll
(03:07):
take you behind the curtain and show you some interesting
things today. But trumb lashing out as you remember at
NATO when he said just that they weren't there when we.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Needa God, and then they're coming for Europe. And I
have to tell you, I'm very disappointed in NATO.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Very I think that NATO.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think it's a mark on NATO that will never disappear,
never disappear in my mind. You know, they're coming to
see me on Whynesday. They're going to say, oh, we'll
do this, we'll do that. Now they all of a
sudden want to send things, you know. But they said
it loud and clear at the beginning when I spoke
to the UK of all, I would have said they
would have been there first, because they've been they're the oldest.
And I say, yeah, I'd love to have a little help.
(03:50):
Said no, so we'd rather wait till you win. I said,
I don't need help after we win. They have two old,
broken aircraft carriers barely work. I said, I guess we
can some who the hell knows. I called it generally.
He didn't even want He said, we don't really need
we got we got the SS Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Sir, we don't need him. You know we have in.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Terms of technology. We had one day, one hundred and
one missiles going at two thousand, seven hundred miles an
hour aimed at the Abraham Lincoln one hundred and one missiles.
Out of one hundred and one missiles, one hundred and
one missiles were shot down.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Incredible. Uh and yeah, so that's the latest on NATO. Obviously,
Ruda there yesterday. Now he says that he likes Ruda,
he likes the guy who runs NATO. Again. Uh, NATO
Secretary General. I think we played some of this for
you earlier from Jake Tapper's interview. They tried to get
(04:49):
him at a kind of like a gotcha moment here
he is ris, hang on, ay on, let me let
me read, let me readdress this all right. Here he
has one pulled up so you can fully see.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It to the North Korea moment where you talk so
long that at a certain moment, it's beyond the point
where you can still get this done, because then they
would get their hands on the nuclear capacity, and that
is that is basically a big risk for Europe. It
is existential for Israel, it is existential for the Middle East.
(05:25):
So the whole world is safer by this president degrading
those capabilities. But a lot of this is by many
europe acknowledged, and they understand that continuing talking to get
this done would have brought us potentially past that moment
where we can still deal with it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
So you talked about the statement of NATO allied countries
about the Strait of Horror moves, about trying to figure
out a way forward. Here is the White House Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt when asked about the joint statement from
the NATO governments about the Strait of horm moves.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Here's what she had to say. I have a direct
quote from the President of the United States on NATO,
and I will.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Share it with all of you.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
They were tested and they failed. Do you agree that
NATO countries some of them were tested and failed.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Some of them, yes, But a large majority of European countries,
and that's what we discussed today, have done what they
promised before in a case like this because they know
that when it comes to NATO, it's there to protect
the United States because US needs a secure Atlantic and
a secure Article and secure Europe to stay safe here
the US mainland. But it is also there to make
(06:29):
sure that of course Europe is safe and to to
be this this this this platform of power projection for
the United States.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, it is. It is a question, why are we
still in NATO. They don't seem to pay their bills, right,
they don't seem to pay Does he want to get
out of it all together? Or does he want them
to pay their fair share? Which again, you know that's
the kind of language we've heard for you know, quite
some time now, right, pay their fair share? Is what
does he want to have happen? That's that's a very
(07:03):
good question. Where are we going? What is at stake?
What's up ahead? And I think those are all those
are all fair. Again, he was asked earlier, what do
you think is the Is the world safer now?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Then it then it was since we've dealt with a
Ran and.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Then you can negotiate any longer and they have that power.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Is the world safer today than it was before the
war was started?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Absolutely? Because and this is things to President Trump's leadership,
the degrading these capabilities is really really very important for
your and my safety here in the US, in Europe,
in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Are you yeah, that's obvious, That's obvious. Another gotcha question.
They tried to try to get him the prospective guy's
not gonna talk about about Trump since he's here in
d C. They they tend to have a good relationship
together anyway. And again this is this is something I
(08:01):
think we're going to watch in the coming days, how
these old alliances move forward. What happens do they do
they actually keep their word? Do they live up to
what they promised to do all these years or or not?
And it's important because there will come a day. There
(08:23):
will come a time and it may have just happened
where we needed them and we saw where they stood
and that's what Carolyn Lovett said with the test they
failed out of states.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I was saying, full play over the last six weeks.
And yes, it is true. Not all European nations lift
up to those commitments. And I totally understand that he
is disappointed about it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, that's that's that's the key. Even the NATO Secretary
General gets.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You have one to ten. One being not worried at all,
ten being terrified. You where do you leave Washington thinking
President Trump? Your opinion of President Trump wants to leave NATO?
Are you one? I'm not worried at all. Ten I'm
really worried Trump is going to pull out of NATO.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, I'm not going to get into that answering that question.
I'm just trying to But but what I felt today
this this was a meeting between friends because we like
each other. I really admire his leadership and and he
knows what he did in the Hague last year as
a NATO summit has been crucial and and Natal allies
are with him. But it comes to the aims of
(09:27):
taking out, as I said, degrading the nuclear and the
ballistic missile capacity of the Uranians. Yeah, but yes, the
United States was in full play.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So again, where where are we headed? Where is where's
all that going? Will we see a shift in the
power structure there altogether? There's somebody from Michigan that's got
a really interesting I Again, I haven't fully vetted. I
haven't gone into the you know, into into the deep
(09:58):
dive on this, but I will tell you I find
some of the stuff that i've that I've watched to
be kind of interesting. And I don't know if you
know who this is yet. I don't know if you've
been exposed to any of this. But a friend of
mine actually shared it with me, and one of the
things that he says, if you want to understand what
Donald Trump is really doing, you'll walk down this path
(10:20):
according to these folks, and you'll see every move at
a sort of a different Yeah, you'll see it from
a different perspective, I guess, is the best way to
put it. These are folks, and they're on YouTube, they're
on Facebook, they're on tik tok, the Dick dec.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
But at midnight last night, President Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Let me let me pause this so you can actually
you can watch this this.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
On Saturday and midnight last night, President Trump posted how.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do I make Do I make? Can I make this big?
Big screen? Oh? Yes, in full full screen? All right,
all right, that's what I'll do. All right, stand by,
I want you to see this full screen. This is
somebody called Susan Cokinda and uh, the she'll lay out
(11:17):
here a little bit of what she believes Trump is
doing behind the scenes. And it may make some of
the moves that you watch him pull off. It may
it may make it more clear for you. I'm I'm
not sold one hundred percent, but i am. I'm walking
this through. I'm I'm looking at what they what they
(11:40):
have to say. And her Prometheus group is what it's called.
Uh take a listen to see what you have to
say to this.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
A big day for world peace. They Run wants it
to happen. They've had enough, Big money will be made.
Ran can start the reconstruction process, just like we are
experience seeing in the US. This could be the Golden
Age of the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Iran chose civilization last night. For the first time in
forty seven years, a nation that the Empire condemned to
a dark age has a chance to walk off that chessboard.
Donald Trump gambled on civilization and won the first round.
Now here's what the War Party wants you to think.
They want you to think that Trump just let Iran
(12:25):
off the hook. Nata Yahoo warned Trump against this ceasefire.
Lindsey Graham is calling for congressional hearings. Well, they're all wrong,
and the fact that they're not happy is the proof.
I'm Susan Cookinda, I've tracked the Imperial great game in
the Mid East for decades. What you're watching in Iran
isn't another chapter in their post war system. It's a
(12:46):
direct challenge to it. And if you want to follow
this civilizational fight, then hit those like share and subscribe
buttons so we can stay in touch and keep growing.
Here's what we're covering today, what President Trump actually did
in Iran and what the War Party's reaction tells you
about it. What Vice President J. D. Vance said about
(13:06):
civilization in Budapest and why he contrasted it to the nihilists.
And President Trump's called to the astronauts about taking civilization
to the stars. Now here's what the President posted on
truth social about the ceasefire announcement. I agree to suspend
the bombing and attack of Iran. For a period of
(13:27):
two weeks. This will be a double sided ceasefire. We
have already met and exceeded all military objectives and are
very far along with a definitive agreement concerning long term
peace with Iran and peace in the Middle East. And
then Trump did something extraordinary. He posted Iran's own official
statement confirming the ceasefire and the opening of the strait.
(13:50):
He amplified Tehran's acceptance because this isn't an enemy being crushed,
It's a country beginning to choose civilization. Now to understand
stand why that matters, you have to understand what the
Mid East has actually been in the Imperial Great Game.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Now, I don't want to I don't want to interrupt
her too much because she's going to get into some
of the meat here of about why you're seeing some
of the things you've seen, and particularly if you look
at Venezuela or maybe happening with Cuba particularly, and then
and then Iran plays into the same sort of picture
here and why this is important where she's going with this.
(14:26):
But she's right. President Trump does not want to annihilate,
obliterate the enemy. He wants to do something completely separat
and completely different. He also wants to pull out or
away from the US being bogged down and involved in
any of this. And if you hear her explanation for it,
I think it makes a lot of sense. It makes
(14:47):
more sense then some of the Pannican stuff that I've
seen play out. Uh And and like they've never read
his book, Like they don't know who the guy is,
Like they never covered him for the last ten twenty years.
It's wild again. This is Susic Cokenda Prometheus. I think
(15:07):
it's called Prometheus organization, Prometheus groo bugget the full name
for him. But check this out.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Empire built it as a cockpit of war. They created
the Muslim Brotherhood, the mother of Islamic extremism. They simultaneously
cultivated revisionist Zionism, and then they played Arab against jew
SONI against Shia, nation against nation. Iran was drawn into
this architecture in nineteen fifty three when British and American
(15:33):
intelligence overthrew Mozadek his crime he wanted to use Iran's
oil to develop the country. By the nineteen seventies, the
Shah had launched an aggressive program of industrialization and modernization,
so the Empire reached for its oldest tool, religious extremism.
The Molas replaced the Shah, theocracy replaced development, and civilization
(15:55):
reversed into dark age. Donald Trump looked at that forty
seven years old trap and made a bet, not on
Iran's regime, on Iran's people. He gambled on civilization. Now,
let's look at who's not happy. Nettagnahoo warned Trump against
the ceasefire before it happened. Lindsey Graham invoked the Libya model.
(16:17):
That's not a model, it's a warning. Surrender your weapons
or uranium, and see what happens in Libya. Eight years
after they surrendered their weapons. A NATO back mob murdered Kadafi.
That's what the war party is offering Iran. Trump is
offering something entirely different. But Graham made sure to get
(16:37):
in the last word. This morning, he posted, I preferred
diplomacy if it leads to the right outcome regarding the
Iranian terrorist regime. That's why congressional review process like the
one the Senate followed to test the Obama Iranian deal
is a sound way forward. Did you catch that a
(16:58):
congressional review process in the middle of live delicate negotiations,
negotiations which by the way, don't directly involve Israel. But
President Trump is calling the shots, not Lindsey Graham, and
he's offering something else entirely. But how did he get here?
Not through NATO, not through the British, not through European
(17:19):
institutions that have managed the Mid East misery for a century.
Pakistan mediated the ceasefire with the involvement of Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
and Turkey. Egypt, Turkey, and Cutter were in the room
for the Goza negotiations. These are sovereign Muslim and Arab
nations that the Empire spent a century playing off against
(17:40):
each other, now acting as partners for peace. And Trump's
Board of Peace was built exactly for this. Now, let's
not forget who's not at the table. The Strait of
Hormus has been for generations financially managed through Lloyd's of London.
Trump's steal to reopen it, broken by Pakistan and including
(18:01):
her on, cuts the British financial architecture out of the
solution Entirely. The empire that built this cockpit of war
is not present as it gets dismantled. That's what a
civilizational gamble looks like when it starts to pay off,
not NATO, not London, but sovereign nations choosing to build
instead of destroy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm going to reach out, well, have a conversation I'm
sure in the days I had at some point with Susan,
because I really I think she puts a lot of thought.
They put a lot of work and effort and even
talent to what she's saying and what they do. And
I will tell you, I think it has a better
She has a better understanding of what's happening, what's going
(18:43):
on then most folks. Again we're a lot of us
are just we're watching some of these things that are happening.
We think we know, and we're trying to put the
pieces together and kind of explain that to you. One
thing is for sure, like I said, the videos are
very well done. She's very knowledgeable. I don't know, I'm
(19:05):
gonna have to do a little bit deeper dive. I
can't like just tell you like oh I sign on iveltry,
I endorse this that or the other person. I know
most people won't even share like you know, podcasters are streamings,
probably won't even share like other streamers and podcasts with
because they think they're in competition. I disagree. I think
we're working together to keep people informed. And I don't
(19:26):
think we all have all the answers. I think each
of us has a little piece here and a little
piece there, and we come together and we get a
better picture. It's a sort of like a mosaic or
a puzzle to seat like what everything looks like. So, Charlene,
that's a really interesting thought. That's a really interesting thought.
So anyway, in the days they had, we'll try and
see if we can sit down with her and get
(19:48):
a better picture. But what is for sure is that
what we are watching President Trump has thought about for decades.
What we are watching, the moves that he is making
is part of something that has been in in motion
for quite some time now. And there are there are
lots of people that don't want to see it happened.
(20:09):
There are lots of people that don't want to see
it come into play. And I think he is reshaping.
I got to be careful about how I how how
I worded this, because it's it's an explosive way to
put it. But he is reshaping the way things work
in the world and the way folks have wanted it
(20:30):
to work has been Promethean action. That's it. Yeah, Susan
cokinda Promethean action. By the way, if you want to
go follow her or put it, put it in the
stack today to it. He's reshaping, giving the power back
to the people, reshaping the way things have worked. All right,
So I wanted to play that for you so that
you could see it, so you can understand it yet
a little bit better grasp on some of the things
(20:53):
that we're watching and the way things are or are
playing out, and why we're seeing what we see play
out right in front of our very eyes. By the way,
here's the warning folks what the left wants to do
when they get back in power. From poster over on
(21:13):
X in wokeness. In fact, this is it, and I
know this is again why if you really want to
know why these elections matter so much, why it'll matter
in twenty twenty six, not just here locally obviously with
our state elections, but also our congressional elections, because we've
(21:36):
got to make sure that Trump has the ability to
fight back to do the things that he needs to do,
to do the things that he he needs to do
to finish this off part of what Susan's doing about.
But here's what the left wants to do to you.
I mean, crack down on social media speech, mass amnesty,
(21:56):
thirty million or more new voters in the filibuster pascotis
nationwide mail in and no voter ID for those ballots.
Fifty two states, DC and Puerto Rico will become states.
And the corruption as you can imagine, abolish the political
or the electoral college, MAGA, arrests, and the banking Why
(22:18):
why do we know this. It's because they were in
the middle of doing it before they were stopped the
first time. And why do I share it with you?
Because I think it's so important for us to really
understand how far we've come, how bad things were. Michigan
Democrat Party is going to have Kamala Harris here to
speak give a big keynote for their big convention coming up.
(22:41):
I think it's this weekend, and I don't think enough people,
particularly on the right, are really aware or remember how
bad it was. There's a lot of criticism for President
Trump right now and not a lot of lee. They
don't give him a lot of grace and understand, look
(23:05):
at all the things that we were facing, look at
what we were up against, look at what we escaped,
and how close we are, and do them to go
back there? And unfortunately, if if we don't follow through
and those very important things that need to take place,
(23:28):
I'll give you another podcast you can listen to. By
the way, I'm giving everybody, I'm giving all kinds of
podcast recommendations today. Well, here's a new one from RFK Junior.
He's launching a podcast, maybe the first time a Pod
Cabinet member has had a podcast. He's launching a podcast
to expose the lies that have made Americans sick and
(23:53):
seeing that, as you can imagine, did the did the
read up on that? And I'm sure it was fantastic
seeing and speaking speaking of RFK Jr, Bill Maher and
Cheryl Hines sharing the truth about Trump. And Cheryl Hines
(24:16):
is rf K Junior's wife. Now, I met him and
she was with him, and I probably should have said
hi to her too, because I did. Look, I understand,
I get it. You know, some of these Hollywood people
like Larry David's complete leftist. I'm sure it's not a fan,
(24:37):
not a fan of Trump. But I loved her on
that show. I thought she was fantastic. I've been a
long time since I've seen I don't know if they're
still making it. I really don't, but I don't watch
them at TV anymore and these days. But I loved
her on the show, so I didn't get to talk
to her. But she kind of had those same thoughts
about him. Seemed like Bill maher until she met him.
She said, he was just asking me about when I
(24:58):
met him what surprised me the most, and I said,
I was surprised that he really likes to listen to people.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
He's very curious and hated when I said that again,
because I'm just telling you what happened? Should I lie?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I guess?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
So I guess he kicked me in the ball under
the table, and then I knew he was He threw
the spaghetti against the wall when I raised the subject
of tariff no.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, I think he actually wants more people around him
for stimulating conversation. Yeah, I was very surprised and mentioned
it again. They hated before it that I suppose to
so many important people I've met who when you talk
to them, you don't feel like they're really listening. They're
(25:48):
kind of like, you know what I mean, and then
when they answer you, it doesn't quite track. You know,
you're just waiting for their turn to talk. Yes, or
they're just on this different level. I mean he just
show people too. I've had that, but I didn't get
that with him at all. I've got a guy who
looked in my eyes, Yes, was listening to what I said,
(26:08):
wait until I finished, even when it was contradictory, when
it was an he never got blustery or mad about it.
You know, he said some things that I don't agree with,
and some things that I think are just you know,
plainly not right, Like you know, third term, I think
you could do it. I'm having people look into it. No,
you can't do it, and you could have people look
(26:29):
into it from now to the end of time. It's
like twelve words in the Constitution. You can't do it.
But he didn't get mad, right, And then I also
made the point that you know, I went home that
night and I was getting into bed in sixty minutes.
I taped it, and there he is in sixty minutes,
and he's like renting and raving. I'm like, who is
this guy. It's not the guy I met. Yeah, So
(26:53):
I'm just I'm just the reporter here. I'm just telling you,
this is my experience. If this is Doctor Jekyll and
mister Hyde, a way to work with Doctor Jackyll.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
They don't they don't want it. They don't want to
hear that. They don't even want you to think that
he's a human being. That's that's part of the problem.
That's part of what well, that's what they're the dehumanizing
effort is is meant to do just that, to make
people think that this person is a monster. And there's
just nothing you can ever have in common. You never
have a good conversation. There's nothing you can do it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That was interesting though, great, great little and you see
the people like that kind of moving Bill Maher, you know,
moving to the right side of the aisle in some ways.
But just truth, logic and common sense. He's kind of
always been somebody open for that. Hey, today, thank you
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