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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Dakota Mornings. I am your host, Michael
Bell kf y R five fifty AM No. A nine
point seven FM. We are an iHeartMedia production and we
are joined on the phone by Brady and Brent Torgerson,
Black Sans Golf Club, Bula, North Dakota. It is Tuesday,
it is ten. We're talking sports. We had a little
golf gentlemen. Thank you for taking the time to join
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us this morning. Good morning Bell, Yeah, like two different pathways.
My brain was going, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We had a little golf tournament this past weekend Shinnecock Hills,
the United States opened. This was a great tournament.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I mean it was fantastic, Mike. And you know, I
hate to always jump in and lead off of this,
especially when it's something that I end up winning. But
we our little Dakota Morning pool that I absolutely dominated.
You guys.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes, yes, your curves. Okay, we're moving on now. Well,
you came in first, your dad came in second. I
was very lonely in third, and and you know, uh,
I am never surprised by your dominance when it comes
to golf and prognostications, which is part of the reason
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why I enjoy the two of your participation in this
program so much.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was giving him a little crap on whatever Friday afternoon,
Saturday afternoon, when this is going on, He's pulling away.
I said, where did you come up with some of
these players that you got a couple of might even
heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, I'll let him tell you where he.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Came up with it. Yeahs as a as a staff
golfer for for the brand Callaway. As I was, as
I was digging through my final selections, I e. Emiliano
Grillo and Adrian Dumont, Day Cha Sart their fellow Ay
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callaweight staffers. So I had to pick pick the team.
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, Well, so you went with the team and that
turned out pretty well for you?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It did it? Did you know? And honestly, I like, again,
I'm not meaning to, you know, extend my victory lap.
But the only guy that I didn't have make it
to the weekend was Jason Day, who withdrew because of injury.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. I did notice that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean, I'm not again like Dad said, you know,
I picked I picked guys that that I share a
staff company with, and it was just just lucky on
that part. But yeah, Wyndham Clark had a ton of
momentum going into that golf tournament and he goes wire
to wire.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Mike, Yeah, I did know. I did notice that, you know,
I mean his Sunday performance notwithstanding that was that was
about as dominant as you can get in a US Open,
which you know it it He won with what five under,
which is about one under par per day sort of thing.
That's a out what you can expect from US Open.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well it is. It is the hardest test in in
professional golf. And I believe in majors. I know, I
know the Open, the British Open gets challenging because you
have those links courses and that win comes into play
very similar to what they dealt with at Shinnecock. Those
those you miss a fairway and you're you know, if
they didn't have spotters out there, they wouldn't be finding
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those golf balls.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, and and that's a good point. You and I
and the three of us have talked before about throwing
out a ten handicap, uh, you know, in the in
the middle of that tournament, just to give people a
frame of reference, you know, when when you're playing at
Black Sands or or you know, Bully Pulpit. You don't
have spotters. We don't have spotters.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, no, well you want to know, I learned something
something new yesterday. So in all my golf. So we
we had to turn some stuff to Bismarck from our
tournament over the weekend. Uh, you know, our one of
our hole in one sponsors put a golf cart up.
So we had the golf cart sitting on the tea box,
which I thought was pretty fun. Yep, And unfortunately nobody
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won it over the weekend. We did have a hole
in one. Yeah, some day during our tournament. Yeah, we did,
but unfortunately for the gentleman that hit it, it was
on the hole that didn't have a prize, but.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It was still.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
His prize was his bar tab at the end.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Of the day was paid for.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah. But so so anyways, we played some golf yesterday
in Bismark and we only had time for a quick
nine hole round and I hit a t shot on
on the par five we played that I hit fantastic
and I felt like we saw where it was and
we never could find it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So the guy, the guy I was playing with was
like I'll just take a tour drop. And I'm like,
what do you what's the tour I was, well, if
you're on the tour, somebody marks your golf ball and
you never lose it. So it had to have been
right here. So just take a tour drop and we
threw a ball down and up.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think that's a great plan.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I did too. I I liked it. So now
it was but that that playing conditions on the golf course.
The greens, you know, they dried them out. They they
were going out and syringing them throughout the tournament. So
what that means is the players would finish putting, the
grounds crew would come out and they would hit those
greens with water to try to keep them from getting
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too fast.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And and and that's one of yeah, and that's one
of the things is so shinekok Kills US is known
they water their their green systems at two o'clock every
single day. This was this was over and above that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes, yes, and and see what listen, this is I'm
not comparing Black Sans or what we Dad and I
do day to day to Shinnecock Hills, but we do
that here periodically. You have to watch those greens you're talking,
we mow them to zo point one two zero inches
and so the root system on that the grass on
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the greens is so shallow and it's the the green
is built completely of sand ye. So you literally have
no margin for error day to day on what you're
doing to those greens. So, you know, I like to
joke that's the excuse why, you know, Dad and I
try to find a reason to get out and golf
as much as we can because we're just working.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, the environmental impact, of course is you know, that's
really important. So what was what was your biggest surprise
takeaway from from this past US Open?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, for me, it was twofold. The wire to wire
victory at a US Open is unheard.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of three other golfers.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, it's it's not very much, it's less. It's not
double digits the number of times that's been done. Wyndham
Clark uh was the villain. Yeah, he was the villain
of this gulfture because was that at Oakmont he was
smashed of anger.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He had a crash out that was regrettable at the
very least, which.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Which he has apologized for, and like, I hold nothing
against it, but the fans.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The fans, Yeah, the fans there. That that part of
it kind of surprised me because you normally don't see
that on a on a professional golf turn, unless unless
it's the rider cut. But yeah, the fans were kind
of brutal on him, and even Scotti Scheffler made a
comment about how well Wyndham Clark handled it when it
was all said and done, and he was surprised that
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the New York fans were that brutal.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, we ought none of us ought be surprised by that.
New York fans are very, very knowledgeable, and they bring
a level of passion that is, you know, not as
readily apparent in many other states. That said, I thought
Wyndham Clark handled that really really.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, fantastic well, and and that that surprised me because again,
you know, you golf golf is an individual sport that
has moments of immense pressure. And I'm talking we come
out to Mend's night and we're playing, and you got pressure,
and you're putting pressure on yourself to perform well. I
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can't imagine hitting the shots that he.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Hit Sunday at.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Sunday at the US Open, where everybody's rooting against you,
actively rooting against you, heckling you, and you're struggling because
he carried a pretty substantial lead going into Sunday, and
that lead.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Evaporations relatively quickly too.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, quickly. Sam Burns goes in the clubhouse, puts up
a number and Wyndham Clark is standing on seventeen, up
one stroke and makes a birdie.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah yeah, from about thirty.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was crazy that that's a You see those those
pictures and you know, me, me being the golf guy, like,
I love seeing that huge fist pump that he put
down when he made that putt, and you could tell
at that point he got his composure back and he
knew he was going to win that golf tournament.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
How much how much time did you spend watching I'm
One of the things that I was really impressed by
was NBCUSA and Peacock had pretty much round the clock coverage.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Blanket, blankets, blanket, and and again I appreciate that they
have it, and I just I just get frustrated trying
to watch TV and trying to watch sports in twenty
twenty six. Sometimes, you know, especially golf, golf's gotten tough
because it's like, yeah, like you said, you got to
watch it on three different networks, you know, throughout the day,
and sometimes you know, it changes at two o'clock, it
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switches networks, and so you take a little bit of
work to find it. But it is great that we
can watch more golf nowadays because of that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, and and that's the point that I was looking
to make, is that we the accessibility is tremendous. And
I think that you know, I for one, recognize that
at NBC US a peacock, these are for profit enterprises,
the need to generate revenue, and so I'm less concerned.
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And I guess maybe because I'm constantly on ESPN looking
for the networks that are broadcasting these various sports. You know,
it's relatively straightforward with the Men's College World Series, for example,
which is on ESPN. But when you're talking about a
NASCAR race from Coronado, you know, it's important, that important
for me that I check ESPN first.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, And you know what, I'd almost like Mike as
a as a sports fan, tell me, I'm almost like,
let me let me pay for let me pay for it,
so let me, you know, let me let me have
a service that's all NFL. Or let me have a
service that's all PGA Tour, and just let me pay
for it, and then I know I can watch it
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where I want to watch it. And I understand with
the way that the networks and the TV deals work,
there's way too much money in it for them. But
part of me is kind of like, just let me
pay for it and then I'm good. I can watch
it whenever I want to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, I think, unfortunately you are. Your attention to sports
is greater than most people's, and I think that that's
an idea that people that pay real close attention to
sports would love. But I don't think there are enough
people out there to substantiate that. We need to go
to a commercial break. This is Dakota Mornings. I am
your host, Michael Bell. Welcome back to Dakota Mornings. I
(11:22):
am your host, Michael Bell. We are joined on the
phone by Brady and Brent Turgerson Black Sans Golf Club,
bu La, North Dakota. It is Tuesday, it is ten.
We're talking sports. I think we've got a little bit
more runway here on the US Open.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh perfect, I was gonna I was hoping you would
come back and say we're not done with golf yet.
I I just want to make the point again of
you know, I love this sport so so, so so much.
I love literally everything about it. It's the truest test
of a person's individual you know, integrity and honor, and
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it's kid. There's so much history in this game. And
you get to watch these guys that you know. I
go out and I think I'm a good golfer, right,
and then you go to four levels above anything that
I could even dream about doing, and you watch these
guys do it with the US Open on the line.
I just pictured myself. So Wyndham Clark has got a
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two putt to win from like forty feet on eighteam,
how would you be feeling, Mike standing trying to get
it to a three foot circle so that you can
kind of guarantee yourself a win, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'd be pushing it off the false front. So that's me.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Exactly. And you're putting on greens that are at least
at least stamped. So the stimp meter is what we
use to measure the speed of a green. So it's
about a three foot long stick.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's got a.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Little hole that you set a golf ball in and
you slowly tip it up until that golf ball falls
out of that hole. It rolls down the stick, and
then you measure the distance from the end of the
stick to where the golf ball comes to rest, and
you do that multiple times, and you do it from
both sides, so you flip flop. You go to where
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the ball stops and you're trying to find a flat
spot on the green, and most greens that we play
in our part of the world roll at about a
ten and that's what we think is fast.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You go to these golf courses, Yeah, that means essentially
that that golf ball on the stimp stick rolls about
ten feet.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So then you got these guys that are on twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
It's pretty much like put your golf ball on top
of a pool table and try to hit a putt right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And that's what makes these guys. I mean, you know,
as I characterize the the the Pinehurst number two when
they had the US Open there somebody you made reference
to the fact this isn't to embarrass the best golfers
in the world, it's to anoint them. And I think
that that's a really really effective way to look at
how hard these courses are. And that's why I think
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it's so important that we get a ten handicap out there,
or like a two handicap like you, Brent, or a
four handicap like you, Brady, and and we talk about
we talked through so that so we can give them
frame a reference.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It'd be amazing. And we literally we didn't make that
phone call, and I'm not afraid i'll make it. They're
probably not even gonna take my call, but you know,
it'd be so much fun to do and to really
you're right put it in perspective. And we had that
conversation Saturday sitting at our golf tournament here. You know,
what would your goal be going to Oakbond And and
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then Mike, we're talking about green speeds, we're talking about
rough length Shinnacok, we're talking about rough blanks. We haven't
even talked about distance. They're probably playing that golf course.
I didn't look it up, but it's probably seventy seventy
four seventy five hundred yards. So again to put that
into perspective, if you play the tips at Black Sands,
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it's about sixty three hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, and when you're putting that in regular normal distances,
that's that's a ten.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
K they are. Their par fours are the distances of
our par fives. You know. So these guys are hitting,
you know, three hundred plus yard drives and you're still
having to hit a four iron, a five iron, a
six iron. You're having two hundred yard shots into these
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greens where we play the par fours, and you hit
a three hundred yard drive and I'm flipping a fifty
six degree wedge into the par four. They're hitting five woods,
seven woods, long irons and still shooting rounds under par.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, I noticed one of the distances on one
of the holes, I can't remember which one, it was
five and eighty three yards. Yeah, and Scotti Scheffler took
he took driver driver.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah. Yeah. And again the the the accuracy, and I know,
like those guys get paid to do it, so guess
what they do. They're professional athletes. So they've got people
cooking their meals, they've got trainers doing their their specific
regiment to their golf game, psychologists on the range, yes,
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coach and college and here we are like you know,
like Dad and I we fly through and we get
as much work done as we can and we hope
to sneak out and play golf just or like for me,
for me and Dad. We played in this tournament this
weekend here in Beulah, and you get the tournament set up.
We had. Lane was here mowing greens in the mornings,
and we don't take practice swings, we don't go to
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the pudding green. You make the announcements, the whole assignment's going,
step out to whole number one, and we play golf. Yeah,
you know, so I get it. You know, if you
could put the time into it, it'd be interesting to
see what you could do. But it just, you know,
the mental aspect of how good those guys are in
that part of their golf game. Just standing on that
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tea box on eighteen with a one stroke lead and
you got to make a part to win. It is
just crazy to think of what's going through their head.
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I had a conversation with a guy who was I
think an index one or two, and I asked him
if there was any chance if I were to dedicate
sixty hours a week, for example, if I could join
the Senior tour, and he looked right at me without
even baton and I and said, no, you have absolutely
no chance. And I fancy myself a pretty good athlete.
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I have a pretty pretty okay swing. And then he
looked at me and said that, you know, when you're
talking about the distance of your seven iron, they're talking
about the arc in degrees of their seven iron. So
it's just it's just a different world.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's a different world. Their shot shaping is ridiculous. They
can hit a draw on demand. They can hit a cut,
they can hit a hook, they can hit it high,
they can hit it low. They can spin it, they
cannot spin it. And I mean, yeah, there's there is
a point, Mike, where like we all we all have
a ceiling for how good we could be at golf.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And that's mind's low.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's just the same in effect. Yeah, there's not some
some people it's the lower ceiling. Some people have a
higher ceiling. And there's just a given, god given talent
level where we just don't have it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We need to go to a commercial break. This is
Dakota Morning Zime. Your host Michael Bell kfy R five
fifty Am. Not a nine point seven FM. We're joined
on the phone by Brady and Brent Trgerson Black Stan's
Golf Club. It is Tuesday, it is ten. We're talking
sports and we will be back after this short commercial break.
Welcome back to Dakota Morning Zime. Your host, Michael Bell.
It is Tuesday, it is ten. We're talking sports with
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Brady and Brent Torgerson and gentlemen. I want to spend
a couple of minutes on the n B A h.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The timber We got to be done with golf, Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, we're done with golf. I think we've drowned that fish.
The Minnesota timber Wolves had a really active day yesterday.
If you guys can walk us through what that looked like.
It seems that they're setting themselves up for for a
for a title run.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, so yesterday's move felt like a salary dump in
Julius Randall and and they re signed.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I got what five first round picks from that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No, no, no, you're talking you're talking to Heat the
Heat in the box.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The Milwaukee Bucks are full rebuild. They they traded Janna
Santa Tecumpo to the Miami Heat, which immediately makes the
Miami Heat title contenders and and signals of full rebuild
for the box.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, so so that trade, the Bucks got four picks,
four players, four picks, the twenty twenty six first round
pick number thirteen, a twenty thirty one first round pick,
a twenty thirty three first round pick, and a twenty
thirty three second round pick, and a twenty thirty pick swap.
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So yeah, the Bucks are going full rebuild with the
draft and players, and the heat just got really good
with Gannest. The Timberwolves, they dumped Julius Rando and a
first round pick and they got a second round pick
and a Mo Gayu back the thirty third overall pick,
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so they cleared up cap space so they could resign.
They just resigned Io and I can't even say his
last name, but to a five year, one hundred and
twelve million dollars yeal. Yeah, he's the.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Young player that blew up in the playoff game when
they had their point guard go down. So that's that's
keeping and retaining young talent and dumping some salary. What
I see the Timberwolves doing and what they've been talking
about is you've got Kyrie Irving and John Morant are
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two names that have been linked to the Timberwolves via trade. Yep,
this could be a move that's making room for that
to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I agree, I agree with that. And then there was
one other smaller trade, yes, or the twenty first too,
you know, And that's all le enop. Today could be
a crazy day in the NBA because the draft starts
Tonight's first round starts tonight at seven pm Central Time,
and then the other rounds are tomorrow night. So today
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and tomorrow are gonna be two crazy days in the NBA.
I believe there should be a lot of movement going on.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
All right now, we're out in front of it. I
appreciate that. Yeah, So moving on to the NFL. I
loved how ESPN characterized it, Let's overreact to the NFL offseason,
And I think that there's a lot to be said
for that. And I'd like to start with with the vikings.
Are are you guys hearing anything or or or or
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reading anything that that lends credence to what we talked
about last week with regard to you know, the quarterback
room or the new ouspensive scheme, or you know, what
they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, a couple of things in And we had a
conversation yesterday Brady Lane and I on our way back
from Bismarck about the Vikings quarterback situation. And you're starting
to read, and I've been reading that McCarthy is excelling
in their in their mini camps and and stuff, you know,
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and the and now the end of the NFL is
kind of in a month long dry spell, so to speak.
They've the players got time off before the actual camp.
The actual training camps start towards the middle and the
end of July. But I believe, and we can all
three agreed that they might be blowing this McCarthy thing up.
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Trying to increase his trade value is what I honestly
think that they're trying to do, because they didn't sign
Kyler Murray to come in and trash out.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
McCarty, right, I think that's readily apparent. And I think
that you know, the three of us talked last week
about that this very thing. You know, if if JJ
McCarthy is excelling in mini cams, then that makes him
a better trade option.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I agree, And I think you ought to talk NFL overreaction.
And to me, you know, Kyler Murray's losing, losing it.
Kyler Murray can't cut it, Kyler Murray can't learn the offense.
You know, Kyler Murray spends too much time playing call
of duty. You know all this stuff, right, it's total overreaction.
That guy is a trophy winner, first overall pick. He
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could probably go be playing MLB baseball right now.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well almost not get carried away.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
He got drafted. He got drafted to play baseball too.
And I mean, he is a supreme athlete and he's
getting put in a fantastic position in a very high
level offensive football team, and he is going to be
the starter day one. And if I'm wrong, and if
all my hate for JJ McCarthy is way off and
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he turns out to start and is good, then that's
good for the Minnesota Vikings too. But I truly truly
believe that he is QB three on our roster. Kyler
Murray is doing just fine, And we are one hundred
percent trying to inflate the trade value of a guy
we took way too early. And again, like we've talked
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about it, we have no allegiance to JJ McCarthy. That
regime is gone, that general manager is gone. So the
new guy's going to come in. But here is the
one thing that I think is interesting and is going
to be very telling about how the Vikings organization feels
about Kyler Murray. Because our new general manager came from Seattle.
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Seattle was in the NFC West, who played Arizona all
the time in that same division, So he knows Kyler Murray.
So we're going to know week one, or probably by
training camp, how we really feel about Kyler Murray and
where things stand. But I truly believe that that is
a big overreaction that he's struggling.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I'm sorry, go ahead, Brent.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And also we haven't mentioned yet that the Vikings resigned
Carson Wentz and Carson Wentz I truly believe Carson Wentz
was re signed to be the number two quarterback on
that team behind Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I agree. And you know, Carson Wentz one of the
great things he brings to any quarterback room is he
raises the IQ level of any quarterback room in which
he participates. And I think that there is a really
good future for Carson Wentz and you know, for the
course of the next couple of years in the in
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the Minnesota Vikings quarterback room.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah. I mean he's a big dude, and and he's
very very athletic, and he can throw the ball and
and I already said I truly believe they signed him
to be the backup to Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, if you've got a guy like Carson Wentz, which
which again North Dakota native, I want to just give
him a shout out personally as a fan. You know,
he he got thrown out in terrible situations last year
while he was hurt and still did it because like
all of us, he's a Vikings fan, right just regionally,
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you become a fan. And so what he did and
what he went through physically to try to keep playing games,
I mean, I just I was gained all the respect
in the world for Carson Wentz and I'm so happy
he's back on our football team.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow has made
a lot of comments of late. It seems to be
he's setting himself up for something. What do you guys
take on what's your take on those comments?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So, first off, I'm going to say this, I absolutely
love Joe Burrow. Okay, I do I think he is
awesome that that LSU football team is historically good. I
literally think you could put that football team up against
any football team in the history of college football and
they probably would still hang fifty on them. That team
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was so good.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Now I like I like his confidence, and some characterize
it as arrogance. I really like how he gets himself
up for every game, all seventeen games a year.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, he's a true competitor that honestly believes he is
the best football player when he steps on any field.
And you've heard me talk about it. I think we've
even talked about it on air. Of like, I would
trade they see the NBA trade in ten years the
first round pick, So I would do it in the
heartbeat for Joe Burrow. Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And and now to compare the twenty twenty six Cincinnati
Bengals to the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers an overreaction, Uh,
for sure they are. That's that is a once in
a in a lifetime football team. At LSU. You had
a guy named what is it, Justin Jefferson who's pretty
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good at football.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You had a guy named what's his name, Jamar Chase
who was pretty good at football and who are who
are we forgetting? Oh yeah, Joe Burrows pretty good at football,
So like that's that Bengals team is not anywhere near that.
And and I think he's he's a competitor who has
all the belief in the world and his own abilities.
And I think if if you're not thinking that you're
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going to be good, they're they're they're not cut out
to play football. So I get what he's doing, but
that's there's They're not the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, let's talk about another one of America's favorite teams,
the Llas Cowboys. I know JD is a huge Dallas
Cowboys fan, so we're going to spend a couple of
minutes exercising your guys's knowledge of this.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, I'm a Dak Prescott fan. I've got some buddies
that are Cowboys fans that don't don't seem to like him,
and my question to them is always, well, you know
what's your other option? There's only there's only so many
top ten quarterbacks in the NFL, right, I mean, why
would you not want Dak Prescott? And I know he's
got a track record, and they struggle winning the big games.
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But you know, they showed a lot last year. It's
a good offensive football team. I think their defense got
better with a Michael Parsons trade in the long run.
And you're seeing that just with with durability. And we
talk all the time your best ability is your availability. Well,
he's getting banged up. They've got some run stuffers out
of the deal. Their defense is looking good. You know,
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Philly took a step back. Philly looks beatable, and I
think Dallas can push push that division.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I'd you know, I read to you. I think that
anybody who who looks at Dallas as an overwrought team
is making a big mistake. One of the things that
I like a lot about the NFC East is that
the competition, as you characterize the Eagles, they've taken a
bit of a step back. The Commanders. You never know
what you're gonna get with the Commanders. But I think
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that and then the Giants, I think that that is
that is a winnable conference. For the Cowboys, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
You know Washington is what Washington is.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You've got you never know what you're going to get
with them.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
You don't And Jayden Daniels is talented and can do everything,
but it takes a while for these guys to get
the speed of the NFL down, and they'll probably make
a jump this year. You know. New York. New York
to me is kind of the wild card in that
because you get Hardbaugh there as coach. They've got a
young quarterback, and they have pass rushers all across that defense.
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You know, you've got at Duel Carter, you got Kevon
Thibodeau from Oregon and Brian Burns the linebacker. And they
got better this year in the draft too, taken the
kid from Ohio State. So that team to me, could
be a surprise and win a bunch of football games
this year, and if not this year, they'll make that
jump next year.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, and I think that they're at the very least
a year away. Though I don't agree. I do, I
do agree with your assessment. We need to go to
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We're gonna talk a little bit about the Green Bay Packers.
(31:39):
Welcome back to Dakota Morning Zimier host Michael Bell kf
y R five fifty AM, Noine to nine points seven FM.
It is Tuesday, it is ten where you're joined by
Brady and Brent Turgerson. We're talking sports and I want
to focus a little bit on the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Well, let's let's talk about them, because they're a football
team right now where the kind of in the sweet
spot where you know, being optimistic about them is not delusional,
But we got to frame some expectations properly because they've
got continuity in their roster, They've got some high level
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star players and that defense is kind of molding into
what they wanted to be. But I still believe they're
gonna go as far as Jordan Love takes them. And
this is year four is him being the guy. So
his evolution is going to be the story for the
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Green Bay Packers this year, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And I agree with that, I think that, But I
think that a big signpost on that is Tucker Craft
coming back from a tour in ACL He was an
all World tight end through most of the season last year.
That terribly unfortunate. It looks like he's going to be
back for Week one. I think that that is a
difference maker on that offense from down one.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh. Absolutely, he is a phenomenal football player. He's a
game changer, and you know they need him because, you know,
to my to my untrained football eye, or you know,
whatever you want to call it, they've got a bunch
of wide receiver twos. They don't have a true number one,
but they've got like five guys who could be wide
receiver twos on other football teams.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I'm really looking forward to that, to that plane
itself out this season.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yes, they need they need Tucker Craft because he's probably
there one, you know. And then you've got Dontavian Wicks,
Christian Watson. You've got a bunch of good football players
that you know, they're just not quite that elite tier,
but they are second tier for sure, and you know,
can they all perform? But if you look at their
front seven, you know, Rashaun Garry is healthy. I still
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think Kenny Clark is elite in the inside of that
the defensive line, and so that defense is going to
be good. You know, hopefully, hopefully Micah can come back
at some point, and he's going to be a game
wrecker that he always is. I think the problem that
Green Bay has is the same problem that the Minnesota
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Vikings have and the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears.
They're in a really really good division.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Is tough when you look at like the Vikings are
the worst team in the division, Like that's a good
division of football.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I agree, And they seem to have taken over for
what has historically been the toughest conference, which was the
NFC East. The NFC North now is just loaded for
bear those you know, they play each other twice a year.
That's going to be some great football.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It's it's MutS watch football. And yeah, I would put
the NFC North against anybody right now, you know, division
to division, and you know the the Green Bay Packers,
Matt Lafleur, they have.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
A great football coach.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I mean that it's a really.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Good, unique mind. Yeah. Yeah, And so I'm sorry, go ahead, Brent.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you know, as a Viking fan, I feel
kind of relieved that we get them week one without
Michael Williams on the field. You know, it's kind of
a relief there because that was a that was a
great deal for Green Bay. They he he is a
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game wrecker, and you know, jumping around the division, you
know the Bears, the Bears are looking probably like maybe
the favorites this.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Year, you know, which makes your son in law happy.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, and you know they're in the news with the
big potential move to him and the monthly Bears.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah. So I love that move. That's the economics of
professional sports and I deeply appreciate that. You know, there's
a lot of who shot Jr? Who's respond But at
the end of the day, the Chicago's Bears, Chicago Bears
have to make what is in the best interest financial
and otherwise of their organization, and the City of Chicago
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didn't get it done.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I still think, Mike, I still think it's it ends
up happening. I think it's just totally a power play
by the Bears organization trying to maximize what they can get,
and I think they are prepared to walk if if
Chicago doesn't want to play ball. I still think it
gets done. It's it's a it's a very high level
game of chicken that they're playing with the City of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, see, you know, talking to some of the some
of the finance guys. This this is a done deal.
They're moving to Indiana. Yeah yeah, yeah uh And and
again this is the economics of professional sports which needs
to be left to its own devices. Hey guys, I
really appreciate you taking the time again this week. This
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is Dakode of Mornings. I am your host, Michael Bell
kf y R five fifty AM ninety nine point seven FM,
and we are a rap for today.
Welcome back to Dakota Mornings. I am your host, Michael
Bell kf y R five fifty AM No. A nine
point seven FM. We are an iHeartMedia production and we
are joined on the phone by Brady and Brent Torgerson,
Black Sans Golf Club, Bula, North Dakota. It is Tuesday,
it is ten. We're talking sports. We had a little
golf gentlemen. Thank you for taking the time to join
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us this morning. Good morning Bell, Yeah, like two different pathways.
My brain was going, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We had a little golf tournament this past weekend Shinnecock Hills,
the United States opened. This was a great tournament.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I mean it was fantastic, Mike. And you know, I
hate to always jump in and lead off of this,
especially when it's something that I end up winning. But
we our little Dakota Morning pool that I absolutely dominated.
You guys.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes, yes, your curves. Okay, we're moving on now. Well,
you came in first, your dad came in second. I
was very lonely in third, and and you know, uh,
I am never surprised by your dominance when it comes
to golf and prognostications, which is part of the reason
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why I enjoy the two of your participation in this
program so much.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was giving him a little crap on whatever Friday afternoon,
Saturday afternoon, when this is going on, He's pulling away.
I said, where did you come up with some of
these players that you got a couple of might even
heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, I'll let him tell you where he.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Came up with it. Yeahs as a as a staff
golfer for for the brand Callaway. As I was, as
I was digging through my final selections, I e. Emiliano
Grillo and Adrian Dumont, Day Cha Sart their fellow Ay
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callaweight staffers. So I had to pick pick the team.
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, Well, so you went with the team and that
turned out pretty well for you?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It did it? Did you know? And honestly, I like, again,
I'm not meaning to, you know, extend my victory lap.
But the only guy that I didn't have make it
to the weekend was Jason Day, who withdrew because of injury.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. I did notice that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean, I'm not again like Dad said, you know,
I picked I picked guys that that I share a
staff company with, and it was just just lucky on
that part. But yeah, Wyndham Clark had a ton of
momentum going into that golf tournament and he goes wire
to wire.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Mike, Yeah, I did know. I did notice that, you know,
I mean his Sunday performance notwithstanding that was that was
about as dominant as you can get in a US Open,
which you know it it He won with what five under,
which is about one under par per day sort of thing.
That's a out what you can expect from US Open.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well it is. It is the hardest test in in
professional golf. And I believe in majors. I know, I
know the Open, the British Open gets challenging because you
have those links courses and that win comes into play
very similar to what they dealt with at Shinnecock. Those
those you miss a fairway and you're you know, if
they didn't have spotters out there, they wouldn't be finding
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those golf balls.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, and and that's a good point. You and I
and the three of us have talked before about throwing
out a ten handicap, uh, you know, in the in
the middle of that tournament, just to give people a
frame of reference, you know, when when you're playing at
Black Sands or or you know, Bully Pulpit. You don't
have spotters. We don't have spotters.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, no, well you want to know, I learned something
something new yesterday. So in all my golf. So we
we had to turn some stuff to Bismarck from our
tournament over the weekend. Uh, you know, our one of
our hole in one sponsors put a golf cart up.
So we had the golf cart sitting on the tea box,
which I thought was pretty fun. Yep, And unfortunately nobody
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won it over the weekend. We did have a hole
in one. Yeah, some day during our tournament. Yeah, we did,
but unfortunately for the gentleman that hit it, it was
on the hole that didn't have a prize, but.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It was still.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
His prize was his bar tab at the end.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Of the day was paid for.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah. But so so anyways, we played some golf yesterday
in Bismark and we only had time for a quick
nine hole round and I hit a t shot on
on the par five we played that I hit fantastic
and I felt like we saw where it was and
we never could find it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So the guy, the guy I was playing with was
like I'll just take a tour drop. And I'm like,
what do you what's the tour I was, well, if
you're on the tour, somebody marks your golf ball and
you never lose it. So it had to have been
right here. So just take a tour drop and we
threw a ball down and up.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think that's a great plan.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I did too. I I liked it. So now
it was but that that playing conditions on the golf course.
The greens, you know, they dried them out. They they
were going out and syringing them throughout the tournament. So
what that means is the players would finish putting, the
grounds crew would come out and they would hit those
greens with water to try to keep them from getting
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too fast.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And and and that's one of yeah, and that's one
of the things is so shinekok Kills US is known
they water their their green systems at two o'clock every
single day. This was this was over and above that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes, yes, and and see what listen, this is I'm
not comparing Black Sans or what we Dad and I
do day to day to Shinnecock Hills, but we do
that here periodically. You have to watch those greens you're talking,
we mow them to zo point one two zero inches
and so the root system on that the grass on
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the greens is so shallow and it's the the green
is built completely of sand ye. So you literally have
no margin for error day to day on what you're
doing to those greens. So, you know, I like to
joke that's the excuse why, you know, Dad and I
try to find a reason to get out and golf
as much as we can because we're just working.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, the environmental impact, of course is you know, that's
really important. So what was what was your biggest surprise
takeaway from from this past US Open?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, for me, it was twofold. The wire to wire
victory at a US Open is unheard.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of three other golfers.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, it's it's not very much, it's less. It's not
double digits the number of times that's been done. Wyndham
Clark uh was the villain. Yeah, he was the villain
of this gulfture because was that at Oakmont he was
smashed of anger.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He had a crash out that was regrettable at the
very least, which.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Which he has apologized for, and like, I hold nothing
against it, but the fans.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The fans, Yeah, the fans there. That that part of
it kind of surprised me because you normally don't see
that on a on a professional golf turn, unless unless
it's the rider cut. But yeah, the fans were kind
of brutal on him, and even Scotti Scheffler made a
comment about how well Wyndham Clark handled it when it
was all said and done, and he was surprised that
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the New York fans were that brutal.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, we ought none of us ought be surprised by that.
New York fans are very, very knowledgeable, and they bring
a level of passion that is, you know, not as
readily apparent in many other states. That said, I thought
Wyndham Clark handled that really really.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, fantastic well, and and that that surprised me because again,
you know, you golf golf is an individual sport that
has moments of immense pressure. And I'm talking we come
out to Mend's night and we're playing, and you got pressure,
and you're putting pressure on yourself to perform well. I
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can't imagine hitting the shots that he.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Hit Sunday at.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Sunday at the US Open, where everybody's rooting against you,
actively rooting against you, heckling you, and you're struggling because
he carried a pretty substantial lead going into Sunday, and
that lead.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Evaporations relatively quickly too.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, quickly. Sam Burns goes in the clubhouse, puts up
a number and Wyndham Clark is standing on seventeen, up
one stroke and makes a birdie.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah yeah, from about thirty.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was crazy that that's a You see those those
pictures and you know, me, me being the golf guy, like,
I love seeing that huge fist pump that he put
down when he made that putt, and you could tell
at that point he got his composure back and he
knew he was going to win that golf tournament.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
How much how much time did you spend watching I'm
One of the things that I was really impressed by
was NBCUSA and Peacock had pretty much round the clock coverage.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Blanket, blankets, blanket, and and again I appreciate that they
have it, and I just I just get frustrated trying
to watch TV and trying to watch sports in twenty
twenty six. Sometimes, you know, especially golf, golf's gotten tough
because it's like, yeah, like you said, you got to
watch it on three different networks, you know, throughout the day,
and sometimes you know, it changes at two o'clock, it
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switches networks, and so you take a little bit of
work to find it. But it is great that we
can watch more golf nowadays because of that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, and and that's the point that I was looking
to make, is that we the accessibility is tremendous. And
I think that you know, I for one, recognize that
at NBC US a peacock, these are for profit enterprises,
the need to generate revenue, and so I'm less concerned.
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And I guess maybe because I'm constantly on ESPN looking
for the networks that are broadcasting these various sports. You know,
it's relatively straightforward with the Men's College World Series, for example,
which is on ESPN. But when you're talking about a
NASCAR race from Coronado, you know, it's important, that important
for me that I check ESPN first.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, And you know what, I'd almost like Mike as
a as a sports fan, tell me, I'm almost like,
let me let me pay for let me pay for it,
so let me, you know, let me let me have
a service that's all NFL. Or let me have a
service that's all PGA Tour, and just let me pay
for it, and then I know I can watch it
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where I want to watch it. And I understand with
the way that the networks and the TV deals work,
there's way too much money in it for them. But
part of me is kind of like, just let me
pay for it and then I'm good. I can watch
it whenever I want to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, I think, unfortunately you are. Your attention to sports
is greater than most people's, and I think that that's
an idea that people that pay real close attention to
sports would love. But I don't think there are enough
people out there to substantiate that. We need to go
to a commercial break. This is Dakota Mornings. I am
your host, Michael Bell. Welcome back to Dakota Mornings. I
(11:22):
am your host, Michael Bell. We are joined on the
phone by Brady and Brent Turgerson Black Sans Golf Club,
bu La, North Dakota. It is Tuesday, it is ten.
We're talking sports. I think we've got a little bit
more runway here on the US Open.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh perfect, I was gonna I was hoping you would
come back and say we're not done with golf yet.
I I just want to make the point again of
you know, I love this sport so so, so so much.
I love literally everything about it. It's the truest test
of a person's individual you know, integrity and honor, and
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it's kid. There's so much history in this game. And
you get to watch these guys that you know. I
go out and I think I'm a good golfer, right,
and then you go to four levels above anything that
I could even dream about doing, and you watch these
guys do it with the US Open on the line.
I just pictured myself. So Wyndham Clark has got a
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two putt to win from like forty feet on eighteam,
how would you be feeling, Mike standing trying to get
it to a three foot circle so that you can
kind of guarantee yourself a win, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'd be pushing it off the false front. So that's me.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Exactly. And you're putting on greens that are at least
at least stamped. So the stimp meter is what we
use to measure the speed of a green. So it's
about a three foot long stick.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's got a.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Little hole that you set a golf ball in and
you slowly tip it up until that golf ball falls
out of that hole. It rolls down the stick, and
then you measure the distance from the end of the
stick to where the golf ball comes to rest, and
you do that multiple times, and you do it from
both sides, so you flip flop. You go to where
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the ball stops and you're trying to find a flat
spot on the green, and most greens that we play
in our part of the world roll at about a
ten and that's what we think is fast.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You go to these golf courses, Yeah, that means essentially
that that golf ball on the stimp stick rolls about
ten feet.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So then you got these guys that are on twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
It's pretty much like put your golf ball on top
of a pool table and try to hit a putt right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And that's what makes these guys. I mean, you know,
as I characterize the the the Pinehurst number two when
they had the US Open there somebody you made reference
to the fact this isn't to embarrass the best golfers
in the world, it's to anoint them. And I think
that that's a really really effective way to look at
how hard these courses are. And that's why I think
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it's so important that we get a ten handicap out there,
or like a two handicap like you, Brent, or a
four handicap like you, Brady, and and we talk about
we talked through so that so we can give them
frame a reference.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It'd be amazing. And we literally we didn't make that
phone call, and I'm not afraid i'll make it. They're
probably not even gonna take my call, but you know,
it'd be so much fun to do and to really
you're right put it in perspective. And we had that
conversation Saturday sitting at our golf tournament here. You know,
what would your goal be going to Oakbond And and
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then Mike, we're talking about green speeds, we're talking about
rough length Shinnacok, we're talking about rough blanks. We haven't
even talked about distance. They're probably playing that golf course.
I didn't look it up, but it's probably seventy seventy
four seventy five hundred yards. So again to put that
into perspective, if you play the tips at Black Sands,
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it's about sixty three hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, and when you're putting that in regular normal distances,
that's that's a ten.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
K they are. Their par fours are the distances of
our par fives. You know. So these guys are hitting,
you know, three hundred plus yard drives and you're still
having to hit a four iron, a five iron, a
six iron. You're having two hundred yard shots into these
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greens where we play the par fours, and you hit
a three hundred yard drive and I'm flipping a fifty
six degree wedge into the par four. They're hitting five woods,
seven woods, long irons and still shooting rounds under par.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, I noticed one of the distances on one
of the holes, I can't remember which one, it was
five and eighty three yards. Yeah, and Scotti Scheffler took
he took driver driver.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah. Yeah. And again the the the accuracy, and I know,
like those guys get paid to do it, so guess
what they do. They're professional athletes. So they've got people
cooking their meals, they've got trainers doing their their specific
regiment to their golf game, psychologists on the range, yes,
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coach and college and here we are like you know,
like Dad and I we fly through and we get
as much work done as we can and we hope
to sneak out and play golf just or like for me,
for me and Dad. We played in this tournament this
weekend here in Beulah, and you get the tournament set up.
We had. Lane was here mowing greens in the mornings,
and we don't take practice swings, we don't go to
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the pudding green. You make the announcements, the whole assignment's going,
step out to whole number one, and we play golf. Yeah,
you know, so I get it. You know, if you
could put the time into it, it'd be interesting to
see what you could do. But it just, you know,
the mental aspect of how good those guys are in
that part of their golf game. Just standing on that
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tea box on eighteen with a one stroke lead and
you got to make a part to win. It is
just crazy to think of what's going through their head.
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I had a conversation with a guy who was I
think an index one or two, and I asked him
if there was any chance if I were to dedicate
sixty hours a week, for example, if I could join
the Senior tour, and he looked right at me without
even baton and I and said, no, you have absolutely
no chance. And I fancy myself a pretty good athlete.
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I have a pretty pretty okay swing. And then he
looked at me and said that, you know, when you're
talking about the distance of your seven iron, they're talking
about the arc in degrees of their seven iron. So
it's just it's just a different world.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's a different world. Their shot shaping is ridiculous. They
can hit a draw on demand. They can hit a cut,
they can hit a hook, they can hit it high,
they can hit it low. They can spin it, they
cannot spin it. And I mean, yeah, there's there is
a point, Mike, where like we all we all have
a ceiling for how good we could be at golf.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And that's mind's low.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's just the same in effect. Yeah, there's not some
some people it's the lower ceiling. Some people have a
higher ceiling. And there's just a given, god given talent
level where we just don't have it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We need to go to a commercial break. This is
Dakota Morning Zime. Your host Michael Bell kfy R five
fifty Am. Not a nine point seven FM. We're joined
on the phone by Brady and Brent Trgerson Black Stan's
Golf Club. It is Tuesday, it is ten. We're talking
sports and we will be back after this short commercial break.
Welcome back to Dakota Morning Zime. Your host, Michael Bell.
It is Tuesday, it is ten. We're talking sports with
(18:54):
Brady and Brent Torgerson and gentlemen. I want to spend
a couple of minutes on the n B A h.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The timber We got to be done with golf, Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, we're done with golf. I think we've drowned that fish.
The Minnesota timber Wolves had a really active day yesterday.
If you guys can walk us through what that looked like.
It seems that they're setting themselves up for for a
for a title run.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, so yesterday's move felt like a salary dump in
Julius Randall and and they re signed.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I got what five first round picks from that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No, no, no, you're talking you're talking to Heat the
Heat in the box.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The Milwaukee Bucks are full rebuild. They they traded Janna
Santa Tecumpo to the Miami Heat, which immediately makes the
Miami Heat title contenders and and signals of full rebuild
for the box.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, so so that trade, the Bucks got four picks,
four players, four picks, the twenty twenty six first round
pick number thirteen, a twenty thirty one first round pick,
a twenty thirty three first round pick, and a twenty
thirty three second round pick, and a twenty thirty pick swap.
(20:20):
So yeah, the Bucks are going full rebuild with the
draft and players, and the heat just got really good
with Gannest. The Timberwolves, they dumped Julius Rando and a
first round pick and they got a second round pick
and a Mo Gayu back the thirty third overall pick,
(20:40):
so they cleared up cap space so they could resign.
They just resigned Io and I can't even say his
last name, but to a five year, one hundred and
twelve million dollars yeal. Yeah, he's the.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Young player that blew up in the playoff game when
they had their point guard go down. So that's that's
keeping and retaining young talent and dumping some salary. What
I see the Timberwolves doing and what they've been talking
about is you've got Kyrie Irving and John Morant are
(21:12):
two names that have been linked to the Timberwolves via trade. Yep,
this could be a move that's making room for that
to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I agree, I agree with that. And then there was
one other smaller trade, yes, or the twenty first too,
you know, And that's all le enop. Today could be
a crazy day in the NBA because the draft starts
Tonight's first round starts tonight at seven pm Central Time,
and then the other rounds are tomorrow night. So today
(21:42):
and tomorrow are gonna be two crazy days in the NBA.
I believe there should be a lot of movement going on.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
All right now, we're out in front of it. I
appreciate that. Yeah, So moving on to the NFL. I
loved how ESPN characterized it, Let's overreact to the NFL offseason,
And I think that there's a lot to be said
for that. And I'd like to start with with the vikings.
Are are you guys hearing anything or or or or
(22:08):
reading anything that that lends credence to what we talked
about last week with regard to you know, the quarterback
room or the new ouspensive scheme, or you know, what
they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, a couple of things in And we had a
conversation yesterday Brady Lane and I on our way back
from Bismarck about the Vikings quarterback situation. And you're starting
to read, and I've been reading that McCarthy is excelling
in their in their mini camps and and stuff, you know,
(22:42):
and the and now the end of the NFL is
kind of in a month long dry spell, so to speak.
They've the players got time off before the actual camp.
The actual training camps start towards the middle and the
end of July. But I believe, and we can all
three agreed that they might be blowing this McCarthy thing up.
(23:04):
Trying to increase his trade value is what I honestly
think that they're trying to do, because they didn't sign
Kyler Murray to come in and trash out.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
McCarty, right, I think that's readily apparent. And I think
that you know, the three of us talked last week
about that this very thing. You know, if if JJ
McCarthy is excelling in mini cams, then that makes him
a better trade option.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I agree, And I think you ought to talk NFL overreaction.
And to me, you know, Kyler Murray's losing, losing it.
Kyler Murray can't cut it, Kyler Murray can't learn the offense.
You know, Kyler Murray spends too much time playing call
of duty. You know all this stuff, right, it's total overreaction.
That guy is a trophy winner, first overall pick. He
(23:57):
could probably go be playing MLB baseball right now.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well almost not get carried away.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
He got drafted. He got drafted to play baseball too.
And I mean, he is a supreme athlete and he's
getting put in a fantastic position in a very high
level offensive football team, and he is going to be
the starter day one. And if I'm wrong, and if
all my hate for JJ McCarthy is way off and
(24:25):
he turns out to start and is good, then that's
good for the Minnesota Vikings too. But I truly truly
believe that he is QB three on our roster. Kyler
Murray is doing just fine, And we are one hundred
percent trying to inflate the trade value of a guy
we took way too early. And again, like we've talked
(24:46):
about it, we have no allegiance to JJ McCarthy. That
regime is gone, that general manager is gone. So the
new guy's going to come in. But here is the
one thing that I think is interesting and is going
to be very telling about how the Vikings organization feels
about Kyler Murray. Because our new general manager came from Seattle.
(25:07):
Seattle was in the NFC West, who played Arizona all
the time in that same division, So he knows Kyler Murray.
So we're going to know week one, or probably by
training camp, how we really feel about Kyler Murray and
where things stand. But I truly believe that that is
a big overreaction that he's struggling.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I'm sorry, go ahead, Brent.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And also we haven't mentioned yet that the Vikings resigned
Carson Wentz and Carson Wentz I truly believe Carson Wentz
was re signed to be the number two quarterback on
that team behind Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I agree. And you know, Carson Wentz one of the
great things he brings to any quarterback room is he
raises the IQ level of any quarterback room in which
he participates. And I think that there is a really
good future for Carson Wentz and you know, for the
course of the next couple of years in the in
(26:05):
the Minnesota Vikings quarterback room.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah. I mean he's a big dude, and and he's
very very athletic, and he can throw the ball and
and I already said I truly believe they signed him
to be the backup to Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, if you've got a guy like Carson Wentz, which
which again North Dakota native, I want to just give
him a shout out personally as a fan. You know,
he he got thrown out in terrible situations last year
while he was hurt and still did it because like
all of us, he's a Vikings fan, right just regionally,
(26:42):
you become a fan. And so what he did and
what he went through physically to try to keep playing games,
I mean, I just I was gained all the respect
in the world for Carson Wentz and I'm so happy
he's back on our football team.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow has made
a lot of comments of late. It seems to be
he's setting himself up for something. What do you guys
take on what's your take on those comments?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So, first off, I'm going to say this, I absolutely
love Joe Burrow. Okay, I do I think he is
awesome that that LSU football team is historically good. I
literally think you could put that football team up against
any football team in the history of college football and
they probably would still hang fifty on them. That team
(27:31):
was so good.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Now I like I like his confidence, and some characterize
it as arrogance. I really like how he gets himself
up for every game, all seventeen games a year.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, he's a true competitor that honestly believes he is
the best football player when he steps on any field.
And you've heard me talk about it. I think we've
even talked about it on air. Of like, I would
trade they see the NBA trade in ten years the
first round pick, So I would do it in the
heartbeat for Joe Burrow. Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And and now to compare the twenty twenty six Cincinnati
Bengals to the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers an overreaction, Uh,
for sure they are. That's that is a once in
a in a lifetime football team. At LSU. You had
a guy named what is it, Justin Jefferson who's pretty
(28:24):
good at football.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You had a guy named what's his name, Jamar Chase
who was pretty good at football and who are who
are we forgetting? Oh yeah, Joe Burrows pretty good at football,
So like that's that Bengals team is not anywhere near that.
And and I think he's he's a competitor who has
all the belief in the world and his own abilities.
And I think if if you're not thinking that you're
(28:47):
going to be good, they're they're they're not cut out
to play football. So I get what he's doing, but
that's there's They're not the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, let's talk about another one of America's favorite teams,
the Llas Cowboys. I know JD is a huge Dallas
Cowboys fan, so we're going to spend a couple of
minutes exercising your guys's knowledge of this.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, I'm a Dak Prescott fan. I've got some buddies
that are Cowboys fans that don't don't seem to like him,
and my question to them is always, well, you know
what's your other option? There's only there's only so many
top ten quarterbacks in the NFL, right, I mean, why
would you not want Dak Prescott? And I know he's
got a track record, and they struggle winning the big games.
(29:30):
But you know, they showed a lot last year. It's
a good offensive football team. I think their defense got
better with a Michael Parsons trade in the long run.
And you're seeing that just with with durability. And we
talk all the time your best ability is your availability. Well,
he's getting banged up. They've got some run stuffers out
of the deal. Their defense is looking good. You know,
(29:52):
Philly took a step back. Philly looks beatable, and I
think Dallas can push push that division.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I'd you know, I read to you. I think that
anybody who who looks at Dallas as an overwrought team
is making a big mistake. One of the things that
I like a lot about the NFC East is that
the competition, as you characterize the Eagles, they've taken a
bit of a step back. The Commanders. You never know
what you're gonna get with the Commanders. But I think
(30:20):
that and then the Giants, I think that that is
that is a winnable conference. For the Cowboys, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
You know Washington is what Washington is.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You've got you never know what you're going to get
with them.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
You don't And Jayden Daniels is talented and can do everything,
but it takes a while for these guys to get
the speed of the NFL down, and they'll probably make
a jump this year. You know. New York. New York
to me is kind of the wild card in that
because you get Hardbaugh there as coach. They've got a
young quarterback, and they have pass rushers all across that defense.
(30:56):
You know, you've got at Duel Carter, you got Kevon
Thibodeau from Oregon and Brian Burns the linebacker. And they
got better this year in the draft too, taken the
kid from Ohio State. So that team to me, could
be a surprise and win a bunch of football games
this year, and if not this year, they'll make that
jump next year.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, and I think that they're at the very least
a year away. Though I don't agree. I do, I
do agree with your assessment. We need to go to
a commercial break. This is Dakota Morning ZIMIER host Michael
Bell kf y R five fifty Am, not a nine
point seven FM. We are inn iHeartMedia Production and it
is Tuesday, it is ten. We're talking sports. We come back.
We're gonna talk a little bit about the Green Bay Packers.
(31:39):
Welcome back to Dakota Morning Zimier host Michael Bell kf
y R five fifty AM, Noine to nine points seven FM.
It is Tuesday, it is ten where you're joined by
Brady and Brent Turgerson. We're talking sports and I want
to focus a little bit on the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Well, let's let's talk about them, because they're a football
team right now where the kind of in the sweet
spot where you know, being optimistic about them is not delusional,
But we got to frame some expectations properly because they've
got continuity in their roster, They've got some high level
(32:17):
star players and that defense is kind of molding into
what they wanted to be. But I still believe they're
gonna go as far as Jordan Love takes them. And
this is year four is him being the guy. So
his evolution is going to be the story for the
(32:37):
Green Bay Packers this year, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And I agree with that, I think that, But I
think that a big signpost on that is Tucker Craft
coming back from a tour in ACL He was an
all World tight end through most of the season last year.
That terribly unfortunate. It looks like he's going to be
back for Week one. I think that that is a
difference maker on that offense from down one.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh. Absolutely, he is a phenomenal football player. He's a
game changer, and you know they need him because, you know,
to my to my untrained football eye, or you know,
whatever you want to call it, they've got a bunch
of wide receiver twos. They don't have a true number one,
but they've got like five guys who could be wide
receiver twos on other football teams.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I'm really looking forward to that, to that plane
itself out this season.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yes, they need they need Tucker Craft because he's probably
there one, you know. And then you've got Dontavian Wicks,
Christian Watson. You've got a bunch of good football players
that you know, they're just not quite that elite tier,
but they are second tier for sure, and you know,
can they all perform? But if you look at their
front seven, you know, Rashaun Garry is healthy. I still
(33:49):
think Kenny Clark is elite in the inside of that
the defensive line, and so that defense is going to
be good. You know, hopefully, hopefully Micah can come back
at some point, and he's going to be a game
wrecker that he always is. I think the problem that
Green Bay has is the same problem that the Minnesota
(34:12):
Vikings have and the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears.
They're in a really really good division.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Is tough when you look at like the Vikings are
the worst team in the division, Like that's a good
division of football.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I agree, And they seem to have taken over for
what has historically been the toughest conference, which was the
NFC East. The NFC North now is just loaded for
bear those you know, they play each other twice a year.
That's going to be some great football.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It's it's MutS watch football. And yeah, I would put
the NFC North against anybody right now, you know, division
to division, and you know the the Green Bay Packers,
Matt Lafleur, they have.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
A great football coach.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I mean that it's a really.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Good, unique mind. Yeah. Yeah, And so I'm sorry, go ahead, Brent.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you know, as a Viking fan, I feel
kind of relieved that we get them week one without
Michael Williams on the field. You know, it's kind of
a relief there because that was a that was a
great deal for Green Bay. They he he is a
(35:25):
game wrecker, and you know, jumping around the division, you
know the Bears, the Bears are looking probably like maybe
the favorites this.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Year, you know, which makes your son in law happy.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, and you know they're in the news with the
big potential move to him and the monthly Bears.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah. So I love that move. That's the economics of
professional sports and I deeply appreciate that. You know, there's
a lot of who shot Jr? Who's respond But at
the end of the day, the Chicago's Bears, Chicago Bears
have to make what is in the best interest financial
and otherwise of their organization, and the City of Chicago
(36:11):
didn't get it done.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I still think, Mike, I still think it's it ends
up happening. I think it's just totally a power play
by the Bears organization trying to maximize what they can get,
and I think they are prepared to walk if if
Chicago doesn't want to play ball. I still think it
gets done. It's it's a it's a very high level
game of chicken that they're playing with the City of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, see, you know, talking to some of the some
of the finance guys. This this is a done deal.
They're moving to Indiana. Yeah yeah, yeah uh And and
again this is the economics of professional sports which needs
to be left to its own devices. Hey guys, I
really appreciate you taking the time again this week. This
(36:56):
is Dakode of Mornings. I am your host, Michael Bell
kf y R five fifty AM ninety nine point seven FM,
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