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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeff Hafley, who's the new head coach with the Dolphins.
I want to get to come up here. Four thirty.
He sort of talked about fitting his scheme to the
types of players, and we've had these conversations over the
years about you're bringing your system in and how does
that actually adapt to the players you have and do
you just scrap it all together.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's an interesting sort of dynamic.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He talked about coming into a new situation with the Dolphins,
So we'll get to that coming up here in just
a little bit. But coach Prime spoke with the media today. Now,
did you, Dave, did you see Jordan's Seaton, their former
left tackle?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Five star?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did you see what his comments
were about a month or two ago?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes? Okay, when when he left?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yes, when he left right, So this was this was
It's only thirty seconds, but this was a little bit
of a cut up from what he was asked about
why he left CEU to go to LSU.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
When I left Colorado, I feel like I was at
a good point. But I feel like coming here, the
transition from High eight to how we work out here,
you know, it is just kind of different. My decision
to come here was this based off It just means more,
you know, coach use of that quote is just different here,
and I really believe that being here is is really
just different from how we train to how we work and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The word extra around here. Everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We're big on extra because just doing what's required is
not enough when it comes to work. That's what this
place is about. Like, you don't come here to do
nothing else but work.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, So did you take that?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean a lot of CU fans were very upset
by those comments from Jordan's Seaton.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Did you take that as a show to see you
when they came out? Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I don't think there's any other way to take that.
Although I don't, I don't. I mean, I think if
Jordan were to be completely honest about it. There's a
lot more money involved at LSU. Now, maybe maybe they
go about things differently.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's it's it's good when you have one of your
better players and the guy you just went out in
the portal and signed, he comes in and says, hey,
we're about extra, We're about doing extra work. I'm sure
Lane Kiffin really likes that, but yeah, I mean, I
think I think it was I'm not sure he intended
it that way. Maybe he did, but I took it
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as as a little bit of a shot at see you.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I just I'm a big believer of once you leave
a place, you know, got to leave the problems behind
there too, because you know, it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Small world, this football world. It's a small small.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
World, and you're going to end up running in these
people all over again. And so you don't really want
to crap on the team and the program. He just
left to try to hype up the team that you're on.
Now you don't have to do that. And but like, yeah,
it probably does mean a little bit more because LSU
has championships, like more championships, they more recent championships. They
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just hired Lane Kiffin. They're going all in. You know,
they don't have to worry about where they're getting the
money to pay their coaches from, you know, And that
was a big that was the issue when they brought
Prime in, when they brought coach Priman, and it was
an issue, how well, we don't know we're going to
get the money yet, but we're going to get it.
LSUS does not have that problem at all. LSU is
one of the Hey, I guess you could say they're
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one of the blue bloods of college football. So yeah,
everything will be different there compared to a Colorado who
was building their way up back from the depths of
hell of college football.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So Coach Prime was talking to the media today some
really good stuff about Juju Lewis and the direction of
the program, but he was asked about former players taking
a shot. Now, you remember a couple of years ago
when I think it was I was looking at up
Xavier Smith who had done an article with The Athletic
where he said he never even tried to get to
know me.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He was destroying guy's confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And then Prime and his son both took to Twitter
to go after him. A lot of the CU people
took Twitter to go after him and take some pretty
I mean membership or called him mid and then Coach
Prime tweeted his stats and just you know, basically made
fun of him.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Does it sound like Coach Prime has maybe been humbled
a bit, maybe maybe taking a bit of a high
road approach here.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
What do you think some of our past players have
been commenting on us which is cool with me. We're
not going to be provoked to comment back or to
say anything ignorantly back. I wish those guys the best.
One thing that I could comfortably say. Some people came
here that you didn't know of, and when they left,
they had a name, and I'm proud of that. I'm
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proud that they were able to earn more than they
earned here that could help their friends, family as well
as loved ones and can help themselves. So I'm happy
with that. We're still in good relationship with quite a few.
But you got to understand, some young men played a victim,
and uh, that's not the case. We try to treat
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everybody here with utmost respect and professionalism, and I hope
we've done just that as well as treating you the
same way. But we would not engage in back and
forth with any former players in Our aim is just
to really please, support, encourage, motivate, and really prepare our man.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Did we have on campus?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well do you think, Dave, you think that's a I mean,
you talked about playing the victim and you know, making
more money. I mean there's a couple of little shots
in there, but it seems like a big jump from
where he was before, where the messaging was always like, hey,
I'll get in the mud with you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm with it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, I don't have any problem with what he said.
I think that I think he told the truth, just
like we speculated. I think LSU gave Jordan Seeden more
money and Jordan Seaton is going to play play at LSU.
I mean, people knew who Jordan Steeden was before he
came to see you too, because he was he was
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a highly highly decorated high school players.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right. So, but I think it's smart.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think I think really Coach Prime's been pragmatic about it.
It doesn't do any good. You're still talking about eighteen nineteen,
twenty twenty one year old. You can say, young men
or kids, what have you? And if they leave for
a better opportunity, whether more money or more playing time
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or whatever. To me, the best thing you can do
is just wish them well and not get involved in
a dialogue or not fire back on something one of
them say in a podcast or one of them say
online or on Twitter or Instagram, what have you, because
all that does is continue really to pour gas on it.
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I think you coach the guys you've got. Your job
is to find a way to get this team ready
to go and win games this fall in Boulder.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
The issue, I guess what social media is that people
always feel like they have to have the final word
or have the final burn. And I think they are
learning just let it go. And I think this a
very high coach moment for coach Prime and and and
you know, obviously it's growth having to learn that, like
not everything requires a response.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And but he hasn't always been that way, I know.
And that's what I'm saying. He's learning.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And that's good because you know why, like why you know,
you got to focus on the guys that are there.
You can't like obviously, you know, jordan'steen made a decision
to leave, so good luck where you're going. I got
to focus about the guys that are in my program
right now. And you know, you're going to get shots.
You're gonna you're gonna get people that are going to
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talk trash about you when you when they leave, But
that that has nothing to do with for you.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Listen, you don't want I don't think you want guys
that don't want to be there, right Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean it's a different it's a different world.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
But even in high school you have you have players
that transfer out, you were them well, you don't try
to jam them up. You hope they go somewhere because
it's a it's a set number of years that you
get eligibility. Right, Why would why would I want or
why would we want to try to jam a kid
up and make him ineligible to go play the next year.
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You wish him well, you say, hey, hope things work out,
And I'm absolutely serious about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think that's that's the best way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I also think that maybe Coach Prime his perspective has
changed a little bit, maybe since you know, the illness,
and I think anybody who's ever had to deal with
sort of life altering illness or the or the idea
of that moving forward, I think it can't help but
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sort of change not who you are, but maybe change
your perspective a little bit. Some things are just not
worth getting involved with and spending your energy. Somethings suck
energy out of your navel, and you try to avoid
those people and those things. And I you know what,
I applaud sort of that mindset, if in fact that's
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that's where it came from.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People listening to the show.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Right now, you're driving around, whatever you're doing, tell me
right now, seriously, there aren't at least two or three
people in your immediate life or work life.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That are energy suckers.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Like like they just when they come in, they how
they talk, what they just sucked the energy out of
every orifice of your body.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You lose energy everywhere. It's exactly right, their energy suckers.
You can't. It's like you get to a point it's like, Okay,
nothing against you. I'm just not. I'm not hanging with you.
I'm not. I'm out right. I I yes, I think
(10:02):
we already have some some people in their lives that
do that. Yeah, yeah, they do not I want to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I do wet blanket, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's one of them. Then, would not be an energy
sucker for me at least not. But you guys, oh well,
what do you mean you guys?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, you white guys, white people, white people in general general, stuck.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The life out of me, devils out of every orifice. Wow,
I haven't heard that. My grandma, I know she did,
I know she did.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Wow from Alabama, you guys from nineteen thirties Alabama.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, which to say exactly, I don't have a lot
of not.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Be warranted from what you have to go through.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Problem. Well, I respect that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I just don't have a lot of experiences being called that.
But h there's a blue eyed you know anyways five
six six nine zeros or KWA Thomas Breal text line.
This one is someone who is diagnosed with bladder cancer
at about the same time as coach Prime. I'm not
surprised he has changed his perspective a little bit. I
certainly have. It's very humbling.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, that that, you know what, and we wish both
of you complete recovery.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that it makes total sense. It would have to.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It would have to change your outlook because you're I mean,
you're staring at you hope not, but you're staring at
your mortality. So why why why lose energy over stuff
that in the big picture, it's just not that important.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Man, things like that. You know, cancer and you know,
post to losing your life, it makes you re evaluate
what's important to you.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It does, and it makes you.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know, realize, you know why, like they said, why
I waste that energy on on something that's not It
doesn't matter. It's not going to change anything, So why
would I waste my energy on it? And and I
think anyone else, like like we said, anyone that's really
gone through that will will have that approach. But then
it just helps coach I'm out even more for I
guess it's clearer thinking of how he should handle things.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, we were talking about in the break for
a moment before we hit the bottom of the hour,
just expectations for SeeU this year. And I know we're
talking about some heavier things like bladder cancer, but he's
obviously still the coach there at University.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Of Colorado, and boy, you got a new a d there, Dave.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And it feels like for Coach Prime, this is a
big season for him in that program, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, I mean yeah, every gosh, I mean, very few
seasons are big seasons. But I think I think even
they would admit, coming off the kind of season they
had last year, they've got to get they've got to
get things turned around right, got to find a way
and the schedule is not all that easy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's going to happen.
I really don't. I mean I hope they can win
a bunch of games, but I'm just not sure.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Well, the only way that's going to happen, and is,
you know, the trenches have to be better, have to
be better. They got to be able to protect a quarterback.
They've struggled with that since coach Print has gotten here,
you know. And then also in that same aspect, they
got to be able to rush the passer and stop
the run. So a lot of their problems are the trenches.
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And so we'll see early if that problem has been resolved.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Five six six nine zeros or KWA Commas Spirit health
text line. Chad Bauer in news here at the bottom
of the hour with the latest on Iran. When when
we come back, we're going to get into this conversation
with Jeff Hafley's really good stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We'll get to it next. Michael Malone, he.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Was he's talking to earning the guys last night. He
had some good stuff to say. You know again, I
know I was pretty hard on him yesterday as far
as my the final year or so that he was
the Nuggets head coach, But he always seemed like a
guy that I could see why players really liked him.
I thought it was interesting very quickly before we get
to the Jeff Hafley, So I thought it was an
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interesting discussion you guys were having about what kind of
impact he's in.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Have a un C ESPN's.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Report he's making eight point three million per year, pretty
good impact. I mean, you're only paying that money if
you know what you're getting. It's I mean to go
to take that job. It's all about sort of your.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
National brand, which has not been great the last handful
of years, but historically with UNC college basketball it's been great.
He's got to return the national brand. How do you
do that. You've got to have the kind of team
that can make a deep run in the playoffs. I
don't think he has to win a national championship in
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either of his first couple of years, but a deep run.
And you have to deal with Duke period, right they
if they lose in the second round of the playoffs,
College playoffs, NCAA tournament next year, but they beat Duke,
Let's say they go to Durham, beat Duke and then
beat him again in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
First year will be great. You got to deal with Duke,
and I honestly think this will be a move that
that North Carolina will eventually like, they'll say we made
the right hire.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, it just really depends. And you know, like we
were talking about doing a break, college basketball is way
different than the NBA. There's very few superstar players and
and and with that it means that you have to
coach differently. In the NBA, usually the star players against
the ball, everybody kind of just runs around and sets,
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set a couple of screens, and there's a lot of
one on one. In college, you gotta run sets, You
have to have plays to get certain people open, you
know what I mean. These guys are not at the
pinnacle of the sport yet and there's so you still
have efficiencies and rosters, and so you can't, you know,
like you did and at Denver not play certain players
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because you don't feel like they have the experience. You
have to work to get these guys experience. And so
I think he I think he can be successful. I
think it's going to be a learning curve. But once again,
they got that budget. You know, he doesn't go there
unless he has a very hefty and il budget to
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go get the guys that he wants to get. But
I think it's going to be a decent higher It's
going to be interesting at first, but I do think
he'll get the hang of it. But I do feel
like college coaches have to coach more than pro coaches,
and so you have to do a little bit more
than you did when you were with the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So better chance for success Bill Belichick who was four
and eight last year, or Michael Malone Michael Malone by far?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Because U and C is a basketball school. You know,
it still has that name.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, Drake May and they still weren't very good.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
So that's what I'm saying, Like the un C is
a basketball school, and everyone knows it's a basketball school,
and so I Mike Malone, Michael Malone, my bad, Michael
Malone will end up having more success by far than
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Wa you think, Dave, Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Is it just because of the recruiting ability of UNC
as a c at basketball school?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You and see, I mean North Carolina basketball is still
even in today's times, one of the let's just say,
I mean, let's be let's say the top ten programs
in the country. North Carolina football is not, nor has
it been, So there's there's there's more of a hill
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to climb for Bill Belichick than for Michael Malone. And
they care. I mean not that they don't care about
football somewhat, but they I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Basketball is their thing.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
More pressure then what well, sure, if you got to
you gotta deal with Duke. You got to figure out
a way to deal with Duke. You'll probably get the
first year. You know, people say, okay, if you go
to Durham and Duke beach because Duke Duke is the
favorite right now to win the championship next year, right.
I mean, Duke's that program is rolling. They get good players,
they're well coached. But that's I mean, Michael Malone has
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got to figure out through talent that he acquires and whatever.
He's got to figure out how do we deal with Duke.
Everything else will take care of itself. It's just like
the Ryan Day thing at Ohio State. Got to beat
Michigan and you could you could lose a game to
Indiana if he beat Michigan, and then you go and
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and and make it far as a successful season. I
mean they lost to Michigan the year they won the
national championship.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And people were still talking about it. Down you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
So the like like Jay said, though, that's going to
be the biggest thing. Though You're going to have to
obviously return to the great news you want. You once
were uh in college basketball, but you got to be Duke,
and Duke has been stacking them together and there has
not been a single has not been any drop off
since coach k left. So the expectation is, all right,
if another guy can come in here and do this
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with with Duke, you can come in here and face
North Carolina and we expect to see results pretty soon.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So Jeff Hafley was the new head coach of the Dolphins,
was introduced today and it kind of a It was
a nice interview. It was a nice press conference in
the sense that he seemed.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't know, conversational. Have lost the game now, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But it's so interesting, like these early moments being introduced
to fans or to the media, you kind of want
to see, especially first year head coaches, how they react.
Like I think about Nathaniel Hackett and he had this
gollig he whizz aushucks, you know, every let me hug
everybody here in the room, and at the moment he
was kind of like, wow, this is such a breath
of fresh air for Vic Fangio, who was the opposite
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in every possible way.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And then you have Jeff Haff never one time thought that,
but go ahead, what do.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You mean you never thought that? I never thought, wow,
this is a breath of fresh air. Well, I never
never that. No, hold this, I never one time thought that.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I was like, really really, oh yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean you you like when he said, I mean
you were like, oh yeah, were you. Well they hadn't
played games yet, so I know at that point.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But I never wanted to I said, oh, man, this
is a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
When I got that's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But but Vic was so curmudgeonly, and I love I mean,
I love Vic. I He's a he's an old school coach, right,
I mean, that's what you wanted, an adult in the room, right,
And and the reason why he was here made sense
at the time. But by the end of his tenure,
which again he he was fine with the media, but
you could tell you didn't love doing it, Like he
wasn't happy to get up there in front of everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I agree, it was just which is okay, do you
know what after he wasn't very comfortable doing it right.
And that's more of it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Is like like it wasn't adversarial in a way like
I don't want to be here because I hate you people.
It was I don't want to be here because I
want to be back there drawn up plays and thinking
about the game.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's why I don't want to be here. You think
Sean Payton enjoys during the season, like his press conferences.
You know, that's a good question. It's an easy answer.
I say yes and no. Of course you do. Of
course you do. I can explained. It's a red light.
(21:29):
Do I stop or go? Well, I mean you sort of.
I mean there's a little bit of both. You got
to go before you start. Of course you do.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There are times where it seems like he really enjoys
the limelight and enjoys the attention, and there are other
times when he wants nothing to do with us.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And it depends on I think, the way they're performing.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think if if Sean could not have I think
the majority of coaches, if they were given the option
by the league, you do not have to do any
press conference, says you have to do one press conference
a week, and you can do it if you want
to in person or by zoom. I would bet twenty
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eight or more of thirty two NFL coaches would say,
I sign off on that, and I'm doing it by zoom.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeh, Yes, probably easily.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But you've seen when he lights up when he's getting
a lot of national tick, if you will, and he
loves talking to the national folks right in Town's.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
True, that's true. What would you say? You know, I'm
gonna keep it to myself. No, that's right, keep it okay, But.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, Kay has that effect on people. What's that
that Kay has a thing that people want to talk
to her great interviewer. Yeah, people want to talk to her.
And what you granted about. I know I could understand
why she wants to talk to her. Okay, what's what's
he mean?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean I think that she has a very diffusing
person and she has a way of of of just
kind of getting to the root.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Well, I'll tell you that she kills you with kindness
and so then she gets the infil out of you
that she wants and so she you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
She does her job.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Anyways. Yeah, she does a good job. But he also
likes to talk to any any national present agency. He
lights up under those circumstances. He lights up in the
opportunity to to really peacock like that, and and and
so data where you will, I think when it talks
to specifically us, like the local beat, Yeah, I think
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he probably could take her leave that most time.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, that is that fair, It's it's it's what you said. Yeah,
pretty much, they'd all do zoom.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They must rather be sitting back there looking at you know,
for the fifteenth time.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Why did we cut here? Why?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Why did we cut here? And that's what they want
to do. They don't want to talk to us. I mean,
I agree with you, Sean would much rather talk to
the national media, yeah, than us, that is for sure apparent.
But I think all of them, if they were given
the option, they would not They would not hold press
conferences a couple times a week.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
All right, So we'll hear from Jeff Hafley here just
a matter of moment, but we're gonna go our KA
News desk here with Chad Bauer for a moment on
an update with Iran.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yeah, Ryan, President Trump has just announced that he is
extending the deadline on bombing Iran for two weeks. Originally,
if you remember, he set that eight pm Eastern deadline
if there was no peace agreement. But he just posted
on truth social that he has agreed to suspend the
bombing an attack on Iran for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
All right, that's good, good information, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And of course if anything updates throughout the afternoon shot Tuesday,
Chad in the news desk will be there to help
us out with that information.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Thank you very much. Chad really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Again, what a time stuff like that gets just announced
on social media.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So Jeff Haffley introduced today.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I tend to pay attention to how these guys are introduced,
and I thought he did a good job. But this
was such an interesting answer because he was asked about
sort of melding his defense as his defensive coordinator there
with the Green Bay Packers before getting the job, melding
his defense to the players on his roster.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I thought this was a really nuanced take on it.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I think it's our job to maximize our player's talents.
If we get good press corners, we should press right.
And if we get guys that are better corners, at
playing off, we're playing zone coverage, and I just decide
we're going to press all the time. I think that's
bad coaching. I mean, I just that never made any
sense to me. I mean people say I thought you
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were a big press guy. Yeah I am. I mean
when I was in Cleveland, I think we pressed all
the time. We had a Pro Bowl corner and a
pretty much a Pro Bowl corner, and a Pro Bowl
nickel and two safeties. I mean, it's what do you
have right other places I've been, I've had really good
corners that can play zone. It's just I think that's
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our job and now adapting sayings and logo Like I
also want there to be some ownership within the team.
I mean, each team's going to be different, right. I
think it's a shared vision that I lead and I
want guys to take a lot of pride in it.
And I think you do that by building it the
right way through who you have and what your team
becomes and who is your team. I mean, I can
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tell you right now what I want the identity of
our team to be. I'll tell you when training camp
has done who we really are or else just a
bunch of coach talk, and I'm full of it up here.
I'm not just going to throw out a bunch of
phrases and lingo. I mean, that's just not me. I
mean I want to find out who this team is
and then I want to match that with who we become.
(26:51):
So it's real and I'm not saying one thing and
we're playing like another thing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I thought that was a cool answer, and although a
little bit I guess theoretical because and you guys would
tell me, okay, and I mean, we have different sides
of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Here, so they've all started with you. If an offensive.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Minded coach takes over a team, how much of him
bringing in his system is what you're going to be
and how much is it the players that he's coaching.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, it's both. I mean you got to have. I mean,
systems are important.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I think coaching is important, and good coaching in a
well thought out system can help players get better. That's
what that's what players want. You know, NFL players are
really good players, otherwise they wouldn't be in the league.
But every single year, you know, almost every single week,
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you're you're trying to improve on something. So you can
either stay on the team or you can, you know,
next year get a new contract or or just justify
that they need to keep me here. So yeah, I mean,
I'm a big believer of coaching, and I don't think
every coach in the NFL necessarily is a great coach.
(28:11):
I don't, but I do think really good coaching matters
in the National Football League. And I sort of liked
his answer, to tell you the truth, you know, that's
he's never been a head coach before. I think he's
trying to, you know, allow everybody to sort of see
what he's about, how he thinks, how he processes things,
(28:36):
and that's great. I don't suspect he'll do that forever
with with the media, but I yeah, I thought he
was being honest.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, you know, sometimes it takes being honest to really
get your message out. And at this point, no one
knows what the Dolphins want to be like. And he
would be lying and be like, we're going to be
like this, this and this, give you three three words,
and I like you said, then you go in the
season and then I like that, And it's hard for
a new coach. And you see what Harbor and New
(29:06):
York you see it, you see it all over where
it's hard for New York, a new coach to really
judge that team before they even touched the field. And
that's what you're asking for when they come and do
these press conferences today. Today's the first day of workouts
for a lot of these teams with new coach. Well,
all these teams for new coaches, and so how how
can you judge that already nothing to judge?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, one of the things I was thinking about, especially
with him, like on the defensive side of the ball,
like you're a three four coach, And he was asked
about four to three versus three four, and he did
a really cool breakdown of why sometimes it's it looks
like it's like say you say we're a three four team,
but it's actually a four man front because they're in
there with the eleven personnel. And he went kind of
with with the breakdown of why you would do those
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kinds of things. But anyways, I was wondering it more
in terms of if this is who I am, Like
the signature of him, like Vance Joseph, we know him
as as a three four defensive coach, right like that,
that's that's his front. But if you inherit a bunch
of players that doesn't necessarily fit that, Like, how much
can you bingd the players to what you're doing versus saying, well,
(30:11):
I got to kind of scrap some of the things
that I want to do because I don't even have
the guys to do that.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I think you got to scrap a lot of the
stuff you're doing. I think the qualities of a good
coach are one that makes his scheme perfect for the
players he has.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But how often is that true?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Even Well, that's the issue is a lot of coaches
don't do that. That's why I said good coaching matters.
A lot of coaches don't do that. The scheme is
never bigger than the players you have. The players are
the scheme. You know, You've ran into a lot of
those problems with Chip Kelly in the NFL when he
was you know, he thought the scheme, the schemes to
the scheme, and so he starts shipping people out kind
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of five people for the scheme and it wasn't like
it wasn't it didn't turn out.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, why does Steve Young play much better in San
Francisco than he did in Tampa? I mean coaching, absolutely,
coaching scheme now that there were arguably better players out
there too. But I think to the to Shelby's point
about the three four and the four to three, a
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lot of teams will morph into I mean normally, if
it's if you want to play a four to three defense,
if your fourth defensive lineman is a better player then
your fourth linebacker, then you're going to play four defensive
linemen and three linebackers. Right if you if your fourth
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linebacker is a better player than your fourth defensive lineman,
then you might think about the three four. But I
to answer your question, if he inherits a roster right
now that is better suited to play a four man front,
then good coaches will, even if they have to study
or bring somebody in or one of their guys's coach
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to four to three, and they're they're going to implement that.
It might be a variation of it, might be a
hybrid version of it, but they're going to play what
those players can play and play best.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, look at the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
You think if Travis Kelsey isn't there, that they're going
to feature the tight end as much. That's an adjustment
based off the players you have and That's why the
Chiefs have been successful for as long as they have
because every year we go into a season talk about
how they didn't add anybody about how they're going to struggle,
and they find a way to somehow be in the
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top half of offenses every year because they changed the
scheme based off of the players they have.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But you're also talking about one of the best and
most successful organizations in football. How often is it the
case and I'm no, I know, how fair? How often
is the case that you have stubborn coaches and.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's why they get fired? Okay, and that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Why they get fired, and that's why they don't last.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And this is something you guys can I mean, like,
do you guys just know it when you start talking
to a coach like you're just you're not even paying attention.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
We all look at the Patriots with Tom Brady. They
didn't run the same thing game to game. They changed
up their game game the game based off of what
they felt like their players could do better against the
team they were playing on.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
One thing you cannot do is stand in front of
a room full of NFL players and if you don't
know and you can't convey to them, here's how we're
gonna get better as a team. Here's how you're gonna
get better individually. Here's my here's my vision, here's what
we're gonna run. If you can't convey that to them,
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or you don't really know it, and you're up there
just trying to act like you know it, that room
full of players is gonna know it. And as soon
as that first meeting is over, they're gonna walk out
and go get some chili, you know, at the at
the commissar area, and they're gonna say, bro, this this
dude doesn't know what he's talking about. That's you can't
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full a room full of players. If you don't know
your stuff, they're gonna know you don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Know your stuff. Well, I'll tell you this. So I
had a d line coach once. No I'm not not
gonna say his name, but it wasn't here in differ
cause I love Bill. Bill Carhr is my guy. Uh
we we have. He was trying to tell me how
how to put my hands on somebody, and he was
just like kind of like make us make a star
(34:17):
with like make us put your hands together and connect
your fingers and punch together, and right then I was like,
this guy has no clue what the hell he's talking about,
and like, that's how quick you can lose a room
is because you can just say something that makes no sense.
It sounds great so now. And that's where a lot
of coaches that didn't play football get messed up is
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because they have these ideas of what you should do
in your head, but it's not realistic to do it
on the football field. And that's how you lose the
locker room, that's how you lose the trust their players,
because you don't even know what you're talking about in
the first place. So how I'm I supposed to listen
to you and crunch time when when things are even
the pressure is even higher. And if you are coaching
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me like this during camp when things are chilled, we're
working to get better and you're not coaching me on
the right things. Players notice because that guy still if
I want to, if I want to have a joke,
I could text text my former teammates and just text
that name and they would they would start laughing.
Jeff Hafley, who's the new head coach with the Dolphins.
I want to get to come up here. Four thirty.
He sort of talked about fitting his scheme to the
types of players, and we've had these conversations over the
years about you're bringing your system in and how does
that actually adapt to the players you have and do
you just scrap it all together.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's an interesting sort of dynamic.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He talked about coming into a new situation with the Dolphins,
So we'll get to that coming up here in just
a little bit. But coach Prime spoke with the media today. Now,
did you, Dave, did you see Jordan's Seaton, their former
left tackle?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Five star?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did you see what his comments
were about a month or two ago?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes? Okay, when when he left?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yes, when he left right, So this was this was
It's only thirty seconds, but this was a little bit
of a cut up from what he was asked about
why he left CEU to go to LSU.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
When I left Colorado, I feel like I was at
a good point. But I feel like coming here, the
transition from High eight to how we work out here,
you know, it is just kind of different. My decision
to come here was this based off It just means more,
you know, coach use of that quote is just different here,
and I really believe that being here is is really
just different from how we train to how we work and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The word extra around here. Everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We're big on extra because just doing what's required is
not enough when it comes to work. That's what this
place is about. Like, you don't come here to do
nothing else but work.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, So did you take that?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean a lot of CU fans were very upset
by those comments from Jordan's Seaton.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Did you take that as a show to see you
when they came out? Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I don't think there's any other way to take that.
Although I don't, I don't. I mean, I think if
Jordan were to be completely honest about it. There's a
lot more money involved at LSU. Now, maybe maybe they
go about things differently.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's it's it's good when you have one of your
better players and the guy you just went out in
the portal and signed, he comes in and says, hey,
we're about extra, We're about doing extra work. I'm sure
Lane Kiffin really likes that, but yeah, I mean, I
think I think it was I'm not sure he intended
it that way. Maybe he did, but I took it
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as as a little bit of a shot at see you.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I just I'm a big believer of once you leave
a place, you know, got to leave the problems behind
there too, because you know, it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Small world, this football world. It's a small small.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
World, and you're going to end up running in these
people all over again. And so you don't really want
to crap on the team and the program. He just
left to try to hype up the team that you're on.
Now you don't have to do that. And but like, yeah,
it probably does mean a little bit more because LSU
has championships, like more championships, they more recent championships. They
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just hired Lane Kiffin. They're going all in. You know,
they don't have to worry about where they're getting the
money to pay their coaches from, you know, And that
was a big that was the issue when they brought
Prime in, when they brought coach Priman, and it was
an issue, how well, we don't know we're going to
get the money yet, but we're going to get it.
LSUS does not have that problem at all. LSU is
one of the Hey, I guess you could say they're
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one of the blue bloods of college football. So yeah,
everything will be different there compared to a Colorado who
was building their way up back from the depths of
hell of college football.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So Coach Prime was talking to the media today some
really good stuff about Juju Lewis and the direction of
the program, but he was asked about former players taking
a shot. Now, you remember a couple of years ago
when I think it was I was looking at up
Xavier Smith who had done an article with The Athletic
where he said he never even tried to get to
know me.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He was destroying guy's confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And then Prime and his son both took to Twitter
to go after him. A lot of the CU people
took Twitter to go after him and take some pretty
I mean membership or called him mid and then Coach
Prime tweeted his stats and just you know, basically made
fun of him.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Does it sound like Coach Prime has maybe been humbled
a bit, maybe maybe taking a bit of a high
road approach here.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
What do you think some of our past players have
been commenting on us which is cool with me. We're
not going to be provoked to comment back or to
say anything ignorantly back. I wish those guys the best.
One thing that I could comfortably say. Some people came
here that you didn't know of, and when they left,
they had a name, and I'm proud of that. I'm
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proud that they were able to earn more than they
earned here that could help their friends, family as well
as loved ones and can help themselves. So I'm happy
with that. We're still in good relationship with quite a few.
But you got to understand, some young men played a victim,
and uh, that's not the case. We try to treat
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everybody here with utmost respect and professionalism, and I hope
we've done just that as well as treating you the
same way. But we would not engage in back and
forth with any former players in Our aim is just
to really please, support, encourage, motivate, and really prepare our man.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Did we have on campus?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well do you think, Dave, you think that's a I mean,
you talked about playing the victim and you know, making
more money. I mean there's a couple of little shots
in there, but it seems like a big jump from
where he was before, where the messaging was always like, hey,
I'll get in the mud with you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm with it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, I don't have any problem with what he said.
I think that I think he told the truth, just
like we speculated. I think LSU gave Jordan Seeden more
money and Jordan Seaton is going to play play at LSU.
I mean, people knew who Jordan Steeden was before he
came to see you too, because he was he was
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a highly highly decorated high school players.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right. So, but I think it's smart.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think I think really Coach Prime's been pragmatic about it.
It doesn't do any good. You're still talking about eighteen nineteen,
twenty twenty one year old. You can say, young men
or kids, what have you? And if they leave for
a better opportunity, whether more money or more playing time
(06:28):
or whatever. To me, the best thing you can do
is just wish them well and not get involved in
a dialogue or not fire back on something one of
them say in a podcast or one of them say
online or on Twitter or Instagram, what have you, because
all that does is continue really to pour gas on it.
(06:51):
I think you coach the guys you've got. Your job
is to find a way to get this team ready
to go and win games this fall in Boulder.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
The issue, I guess what social media is that people
always feel like they have to have the final word
or have the final burn. And I think they are
learning just let it go. And I think this a
very high coach moment for coach Prime and and and
you know, obviously it's growth having to learn that, like
not everything requires a response.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And but he hasn't always been that way, I know.
And that's what I'm saying. He's learning.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And that's good because you know why, like why you know,
you got to focus on the guys that are there.
You can't like obviously, you know, jordan'steen made a decision
to leave, so good luck where you're going. I got
to focus about the guys that are in my program
right now. And you know, you're going to get shots.
You're gonna you're gonna get people that are going to
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talk trash about you when you when they leave, But
that that has nothing to do with for you.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Listen, you don't want I don't think you want guys
that don't want to be there, right Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean it's a different it's a different world.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
But even in high school you have you have players
that transfer out, you were them well, you don't try
to jam them up. You hope they go somewhere because
it's a it's a set number of years that you
get eligibility. Right, Why would why would I want or
why would we want to try to jam a kid
up and make him ineligible to go play the next year.
(08:16):
You wish him well, you say, hey, hope things work out,
And I'm absolutely serious about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think that's that's the best way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I also think that maybe Coach Prime his perspective has
changed a little bit, maybe since you know, the illness,
and I think anybody who's ever had to deal with
sort of life altering illness or the or the idea
of that moving forward, I think it can't help but
(08:47):
sort of change not who you are, but maybe change
your perspective a little bit. Some things are just not
worth getting involved with and spending your energy. Somethings suck
energy out of your navel, and you try to avoid
those people and those things. And I you know what,
I applaud sort of that mindset, if in fact that's
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that's where it came from.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People listening to the show.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Right now, you're driving around, whatever you're doing, tell me
right now, seriously, there aren't at least two or three
people in your immediate life or work life.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That are energy suckers.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Like like they just when they come in, they how
they talk, what they just sucked the energy out of
every orifice of your body.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You lose energy everywhere. It's exactly right, their energy suckers.
You can't. It's like you get to a point it's like, Okay,
nothing against you. I'm just not. I'm not hanging with you.
I'm not. I'm out right. I I yes, I think
(10:02):
we already have some some people in their lives that
do that. Yeah, yeah, they do not I want to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I do wet blanket, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's one of them. Then, would not be an energy
sucker for me at least not. But you guys, oh well,
what do you mean you guys?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, you white guys, white people, white people in general general, stuck.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The life out of me, devils out of every orifice. Wow,
I haven't heard that. My grandma, I know she did,
I know she did.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Wow from Alabama, you guys from nineteen thirties Alabama.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, which to say exactly, I don't have a lot
of not.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Be warranted from what you have to go through.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Problem. Well, I respect that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I just don't have a lot of experiences being called that.
But h there's a blue eyed you know anyways five
six six nine zeros or KWA Thomas Breal text line.
This one is someone who is diagnosed with bladder cancer
at about the same time as coach Prime. I'm not
surprised he has changed his perspective a little bit. I
certainly have. It's very humbling.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, that that, you know what, and we wish both
of you complete recovery.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that it makes total sense. It would have to.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It would have to change your outlook because you're I mean,
you're staring at you hope not, but you're staring at
your mortality. So why why why lose energy over stuff
that in the big picture, it's just not that important.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Man, things like that. You know, cancer and you know,
post to losing your life, it makes you re evaluate
what's important to you.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It does, and it makes you.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know, realize, you know why, like they said, why
I waste that energy on on something that's not It
doesn't matter. It's not going to change anything, So why
would I waste my energy on it? And and I
think anyone else, like like we said, anyone that's really
gone through that will will have that approach. But then
it just helps coach I'm out even more for I
guess it's clearer thinking of how he should handle things.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, we were talking about in the break for
a moment before we hit the bottom of the hour,
just expectations for SeeU this year. And I know we're
talking about some heavier things like bladder cancer, but he's
obviously still the coach there at University.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Of Colorado, and boy, you got a new a d there, Dave.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And it feels like for Coach Prime, this is a
big season for him in that program, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, I mean yeah, every gosh, I mean, very few
seasons are big seasons. But I think I think even
they would admit, coming off the kind of season they
had last year, they've got to get they've got to
get things turned around right, got to find a way
and the schedule is not all that easy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's going to happen.
I really don't. I mean I hope they can win
a bunch of games, but I'm just not sure.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Well, the only way that's going to happen, and is,
you know, the trenches have to be better, have to
be better. They got to be able to protect a quarterback.
They've struggled with that since coach Print has gotten here,
you know. And then also in that same aspect, they
got to be able to rush the passer and stop
the run. So a lot of their problems are the trenches.
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And so we'll see early if that problem has been resolved.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Five six six nine zeros or KWA Commas Spirit health
text line. Chad Bauer in news here at the bottom
of the hour with the latest on Iran. When when
we come back, we're going to get into this conversation
with Jeff Hafley's really good stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We'll get to it next. Michael Malone, he.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Was he's talking to earning the guys last night. He
had some good stuff to say. You know again, I
know I was pretty hard on him yesterday as far
as my the final year or so that he was
the Nuggets head coach, But he always seemed like a
guy that I could see why players really liked him.
I thought it was interesting very quickly before we get
to the Jeff Hafley, So I thought it was an
(13:56):
interesting discussion you guys were having about what kind of
impact he's in.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Have a un C ESPN's.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Report he's making eight point three million per year, pretty
good impact. I mean, you're only paying that money if
you know what you're getting. It's I mean to go
to take that job. It's all about sort of your.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
National brand, which has not been great the last handful
of years, but historically with UNC college basketball it's been great.
He's got to return the national brand. How do you
do that. You've got to have the kind of team
that can make a deep run in the playoffs. I
don't think he has to win a national championship in
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either of his first couple of years, but a deep run.
And you have to deal with Duke period, right they
if they lose in the second round of the playoffs,
College playoffs, NCAA tournament next year, but they beat Duke,
Let's say they go to Durham, beat Duke and then
beat him again in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
First year will be great. You got to deal with Duke,
and I honestly think this will be a move that
that North Carolina will eventually like, they'll say we made
the right hire.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, it just really depends. And you know, like we
were talking about doing a break, college basketball is way
different than the NBA. There's very few superstar players and
and and with that it means that you have to
coach differently. In the NBA, usually the star players against
the ball, everybody kind of just runs around and sets,
(15:30):
set a couple of screens, and there's a lot of
one on one. In college, you gotta run sets, You
have to have plays to get certain people open, you
know what I mean. These guys are not at the
pinnacle of the sport yet and there's so you still
have efficiencies and rosters, and so you can't, you know,
like you did and at Denver not play certain players
(15:52):
because you don't feel like they have the experience. You
have to work to get these guys experience. And so
I think he I think he can be successful. I
think it's going to be a learning curve. But once again,
they got that budget. You know, he doesn't go there
unless he has a very hefty and il budget to
(16:12):
go get the guys that he wants to get. But
I think it's going to be a decent higher It's
going to be interesting at first, but I do think
he'll get the hang of it. But I do feel
like college coaches have to coach more than pro coaches,
and so you have to do a little bit more
than you did when you were with the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So better chance for success Bill Belichick who was four
and eight last year, or Michael Malone Michael Malone by far?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Because U and C is a basketball school. You know,
it still has that name.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, Drake May and they still weren't very good.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
So that's what I'm saying, Like the un C is
a basketball school, and everyone knows it's a basketball school,
and so I Mike Malone, Michael Malone, my bad, Michael
Malone will end up having more success by far than
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Wa you think, Dave, Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Is it just because of the recruiting ability of UNC
as a c at basketball school?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You and see, I mean North Carolina basketball is still
even in today's times, one of the let's just say,
I mean, let's be let's say the top ten programs
in the country. North Carolina football is not, nor has
it been, So there's there's there's more of a hill
(17:34):
to climb for Bill Belichick than for Michael Malone. And
they care. I mean not that they don't care about
football somewhat, but they I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Basketball is their thing.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
More pressure then what well, sure, if you got to
you gotta deal with Duke. You got to figure out
a way to deal with Duke. You'll probably get the
first year. You know, people say, okay, if you go
to Durham and Duke beach because Duke Duke is the
favorite right now to win the championship next year, right.
I mean, Duke's that program is rolling. They get good players,
they're well coached. But that's I mean, Michael Malone has
(18:09):
got to figure out through talent that he acquires and whatever.
He's got to figure out how do we deal with Duke.
Everything else will take care of itself. It's just like
the Ryan Day thing at Ohio State. Got to beat
Michigan and you could you could lose a game to
Indiana if he beat Michigan, and then you go and
(18:29):
and and make it far as a successful season. I
mean they lost to Michigan the year they won the
national championship.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And people were still talking about it. Down you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
So the like like Jay said, though, that's going to
be the biggest thing. Though You're going to have to
obviously return to the great news you want. You once
were uh in college basketball, but you got to be Duke,
and Duke has been stacking them together and there has
not been a single has not been any drop off
since coach k left. So the expectation is, all right,
if another guy can come in here and do this
(19:00):
with with Duke, you can come in here and face
North Carolina and we expect to see results pretty soon.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So Jeff Hafley was the new head coach of the Dolphins,
was introduced today and it kind of a It was
a nice interview. It was a nice press conference in
the sense that he seemed.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't know, conversational. Have lost the game now, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But it's so interesting, like these early moments being introduced
to fans or to the media, you kind of want
to see, especially first year head coaches, how they react.
Like I think about Nathaniel Hackett and he had this
gollig he whizz aushucks, you know, every let me hug
everybody here in the room, and at the moment he
was kind of like, wow, this is such a breath
of fresh air for Vic Fangio, who was the opposite
(19:43):
in every possible way.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And then you have Jeff Haff never one time thought that,
but go ahead, what do.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You mean you never thought that? I never thought, wow,
this is a breath of fresh air. Well, I never
never that. No, hold this, I never one time thought that.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I was like, really really, oh yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean you you like when he said, I mean
you were like, oh yeah, were you. Well they hadn't
played games yet, so I know at that point.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But I never wanted to I said, oh, man, this
is a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
When I got that's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But but Vic was so curmudgeonly, and I love I mean,
I love Vic. I He's a he's an old school coach, right,
I mean, that's what you wanted, an adult in the room, right,
And and the reason why he was here made sense
at the time. But by the end of his tenure,
which again he he was fine with the media, but
you could tell you didn't love doing it, Like he
wasn't happy to get up there in front of everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I agree, it was just which is okay, do you
know what after he wasn't very comfortable doing it right.
And that's more of it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Is like like it wasn't adversarial in a way like
I don't want to be here because I hate you people.
It was I don't want to be here because I
want to be back there drawn up plays and thinking
about the game.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's why I don't want to be here. You think
Sean Payton enjoys during the season, like his press conferences.
You know, that's a good question. It's an easy answer.
I say yes and no. Of course you do. Of
course you do. I can explained. It's a red light.
(21:29):
Do I stop or go? Well, I mean you sort of.
I mean there's a little bit of both. You got
to go before you start. Of course you do.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There are times where it seems like he really enjoys
the limelight and enjoys the attention, and there are other
times when he wants nothing to do with us.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And it depends on I think, the way they're performing.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think if if Sean could not have I think
the majority of coaches, if they were given the option
by the league, you do not have to do any
press conference, says you have to do one press conference
a week, and you can do it if you want
to in person or by zoom. I would bet twenty
(22:08):
eight or more of thirty two NFL coaches would say,
I sign off on that, and I'm doing it by zoom.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeh, Yes, probably easily.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But you've seen when he lights up when he's getting
a lot of national tick, if you will, and he
loves talking to the national folks right in Town's.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
True, that's true. What would you say? You know, I'm
gonna keep it to myself. No, that's right, keep it okay, But.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, Kay has that effect on people. What's that
that Kay has a thing that people want to talk
to her great interviewer. Yeah, people want to talk to her.
And what you granted about. I know I could understand
why she wants to talk to her. Okay, what's what's
he mean?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean I think that she has a very diffusing
person and she has a way of of of just
kind of getting to the root.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Well, I'll tell you that she kills you with kindness
and so then she gets the infil out of you
that she wants and so she you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
She does her job.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Anyways. Yeah, she does a good job. But he also
likes to talk to any any national present agency. He
lights up under those circumstances. He lights up in the
opportunity to to really peacock like that, and and and
so data where you will, I think when it talks
to specifically us, like the local beat, Yeah, I think
(23:38):
he probably could take her leave that most time.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, that is that fair, It's it's it's what you said. Yeah,
pretty much, they'd all do zoom.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They must rather be sitting back there looking at you know,
for the fifteenth time.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Why did we cut here? Why?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Why did we cut here? And that's what they want
to do. They don't want to talk to us. I mean,
I agree with you, Sean would much rather talk to
the national media, yeah, than us, that is for sure apparent.
But I think all of them, if they were given
the option, they would not They would not hold press
conferences a couple times a week.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
All right, So we'll hear from Jeff Hafley here just
a matter of moment, but we're gonna go our KA
News desk here with Chad Bauer for a moment on
an update with Iran.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yeah, Ryan, President Trump has just announced that he is
extending the deadline on bombing Iran for two weeks. Originally,
if you remember, he set that eight pm Eastern deadline
if there was no peace agreement. But he just posted
on truth social that he has agreed to suspend the
bombing an attack on Iran for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
All right, that's good, good information, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And of course if anything updates throughout the afternoon shot Tuesday,
Chad in the news desk will be there to help
us out with that information.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Thank you very much. Chad really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Again, what a time stuff like that gets just announced
on social media.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So Jeff Haffley introduced today.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I tend to pay attention to how these guys are introduced,
and I thought he did a good job. But this
was such an interesting answer because he was asked about
sort of melding his defense as his defensive coordinator there
with the Green Bay Packers before getting the job, melding
his defense to the players on his roster.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I thought this was a really nuanced take on it.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I think it's our job to maximize our player's talents.
If we get good press corners, we should press right.
And if we get guys that are better corners, at
playing off, we're playing zone coverage, and I just decide
we're going to press all the time. I think that's
bad coaching. I mean, I just that never made any
sense to me. I mean people say I thought you
(25:49):
were a big press guy. Yeah I am. I mean
when I was in Cleveland, I think we pressed all
the time. We had a Pro Bowl corner and a
pretty much a Pro Bowl corner, and a Pro Bowl
nickel and two safeties. I mean, it's what do you
have right other places I've been, I've had really good
corners that can play zone. It's just I think that's
(26:10):
our job and now adapting sayings and logo Like I
also want there to be some ownership within the team.
I mean, each team's going to be different, right. I
think it's a shared vision that I lead and I
want guys to take a lot of pride in it.
And I think you do that by building it the
right way through who you have and what your team
becomes and who is your team. I mean, I can
(26:31):
tell you right now what I want the identity of
our team to be. I'll tell you when training camp
has done who we really are or else just a
bunch of coach talk, and I'm full of it up here.
I'm not just going to throw out a bunch of
phrases and lingo. I mean, that's just not me. I
mean I want to find out who this team is
and then I want to match that with who we become.
(26:51):
So it's real and I'm not saying one thing and
we're playing like another thing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I thought that was a cool answer, and although a
little bit I guess theoretical because and you guys would
tell me, okay, and I mean, we have different sides
of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Here, so they've all started with you. If an offensive.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Minded coach takes over a team, how much of him
bringing in his system is what you're going to be
and how much is it the players that he's coaching.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, it's both. I mean you got to have. I mean,
systems are important.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I think coaching is important, and good coaching in a
well thought out system can help players get better. That's
what that's what players want. You know, NFL players are
really good players, otherwise they wouldn't be in the league.
But every single year, you know, almost every single week,
(27:50):
you're you're trying to improve on something. So you can
either stay on the team or you can, you know,
next year get a new contract or or just justify
that they need to keep me here. So yeah, I mean,
I'm a big believer of coaching, and I don't think
every coach in the NFL necessarily is a great coach.
(28:11):
I don't, but I do think really good coaching matters
in the National Football League. And I sort of liked
his answer, to tell you the truth, you know, that's
he's never been a head coach before. I think he's
trying to, you know, allow everybody to sort of see
what he's about, how he thinks, how he processes things,
(28:36):
and that's great. I don't suspect he'll do that forever
with with the media, but I yeah, I thought he
was being honest.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, you know, sometimes it takes being honest to really
get your message out. And at this point, no one
knows what the Dolphins want to be like. And he
would be lying and be like, we're going to be
like this, this and this, give you three three words,
and I like you said, then you go in the
season and then I like that, And it's hard for
a new coach. And you see what Harbor and New
(29:06):
York you see it, you see it all over where
it's hard for New York, a new coach to really
judge that team before they even touched the field. And
that's what you're asking for when they come and do
these press conferences today. Today's the first day of workouts
for a lot of these teams with new coach. Well,
all these teams for new coaches, and so how how
can you judge that already nothing to judge?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, one of the things I was thinking about, especially
with him, like on the defensive side of the ball,
like you're a three four coach, And he was asked
about four to three versus three four, and he did
a really cool breakdown of why sometimes it's it looks
like it's like say you say we're a three four team,
but it's actually a four man front because they're in
there with the eleven personnel. And he went kind of
with with the breakdown of why you would do those
(29:49):
kinds of things. But anyways, I was wondering it more
in terms of if this is who I am, Like
the signature of him, like Vance Joseph, we know him
as as a three four defensive coach, right like that,
that's that's his front. But if you inherit a bunch
of players that doesn't necessarily fit that, Like, how much
can you bingd the players to what you're doing versus saying, well,
(30:11):
I got to kind of scrap some of the things
that I want to do because I don't even have
the guys to do that.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I think you got to scrap a lot of the
stuff you're doing. I think the qualities of a good
coach are one that makes his scheme perfect for the
players he has.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But how often is that true?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Even Well, that's the issue is a lot of coaches
don't do that. That's why I said good coaching matters.
A lot of coaches don't do that. The scheme is
never bigger than the players you have. The players are
the scheme. You know, You've ran into a lot of
those problems with Chip Kelly in the NFL when he
was you know, he thought the scheme, the schemes to
the scheme, and so he starts shipping people out kind
(30:45):
of five people for the scheme and it wasn't like
it wasn't it didn't turn out.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, why does Steve Young play much better in San
Francisco than he did in Tampa? I mean coaching, absolutely,
coaching scheme now that there were arguably better players out
there too. But I think to the to Shelby's point
about the three four and the four to three, a
(31:10):
lot of teams will morph into I mean normally, if
it's if you want to play a four to three defense,
if your fourth defensive lineman is a better player then
your fourth linebacker, then you're going to play four defensive
linemen and three linebackers. Right if you if your fourth
(31:31):
linebacker is a better player than your fourth defensive lineman,
then you might think about the three four. But I
to answer your question, if he inherits a roster right
now that is better suited to play a four man front,
then good coaches will, even if they have to study
or bring somebody in or one of their guys's coach
(31:51):
to four to three, and they're they're going to implement that.
It might be a variation of it, might be a
hybrid version of it, but they're going to play what
those players can play and play best.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, look at the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
You think if Travis Kelsey isn't there, that they're going
to feature the tight end as much. That's an adjustment
based off the players you have and That's why the
Chiefs have been successful for as long as they have
because every year we go into a season talk about
how they didn't add anybody about how they're going to struggle,
and they find a way to somehow be in the
(32:25):
top half of offenses every year because they changed the
scheme based off of the players they have.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But you're also talking about one of the best and
most successful organizations in football. How often is it the
case and I'm no, I know, how fair? How often
is the case that you have stubborn coaches and.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's why they get fired? Okay, and that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Why they get fired, and that's why they don't last.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And this is something you guys can I mean, like,
do you guys just know it when you start talking
to a coach like you're just you're not even paying attention.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
We all look at the Patriots with Tom Brady. They
didn't run the same thing game to game. They changed
up their game game the game based off of what
they felt like their players could do better against the
team they were playing on.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
One thing you cannot do is stand in front of
a room full of NFL players and if you don't
know and you can't convey to them, here's how we're
gonna get better as a team. Here's how you're gonna
get better individually. Here's my here's my vision, here's what
we're gonna run. If you can't convey that to them,
(33:29):
or you don't really know it, and you're up there
just trying to act like you know it, that room
full of players is gonna know it. And as soon
as that first meeting is over, they're gonna walk out
and go get some chili, you know, at the at
the commissar area, and they're gonna say, bro, this this
dude doesn't know what he's talking about. That's you can't
(33:52):
full a room full of players. If you don't know
your stuff, they're gonna know you don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Know your stuff. Well, I'll tell you this. So I
had a d line coach once. No I'm not not
gonna say his name, but it wasn't here in differ
cause I love Bill. Bill Carhr is my guy. Uh
we we have. He was trying to tell me how
how to put my hands on somebody, and he was
just like kind of like make us make a star
(34:17):
with like make us put your hands together and connect
your fingers and punch together, and right then I was like,
this guy has no clue what the hell he's talking about,
and like, that's how quick you can lose a room
is because you can just say something that makes no sense.
It sounds great so now. And that's where a lot
of coaches that didn't play football get messed up is
(34:38):
because they have these ideas of what you should do
in your head, but it's not realistic to do it
on the football field. And that's how you lose the
locker room, that's how you lose the trust their players,
because you don't even know what you're talking about in
the first place. So how I'm I supposed to listen
to you and crunch time when when things are even
the pressure is even higher. And if you are coaching
(35:00):
me like this during camp when things are chilled, we're
working to get better and you're not coaching me on
the right things. Players notice because that guy still if
I want to, if I want to have a joke,
I could text text my former teammates and just text
that name and they would they would start laughing.
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