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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're going to have Jack Coryan joining us after five
o'clock again. He reminder Garret Bolson studio with us at
three o'clock tomorrow, looking forward to catching up with Garrett. Dave,
you'd be I hope you'd be proud of me. I
was telling Shelby about this during one of the breaks.
So last night, one of my biggest fears is driving
on the highway and getting a flat or a blowout.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And so I was driving home last night. Sure enough,
flat flat tire.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, something rolled up inside my front left and my
sensor immediately went off, said your tire is flat, like
you know, it's low pressure kind of thing. And you know,
I'm at four seventy nine twenty five at that point,
so there's no like off shoot.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And so I eventually made it to Lincoln, got to
a gas station, you know, got out of the car,
tire's gone, tried to just you know, you hit something. Yeah,
I just some kind of metal something went up inside
the the thing. But I was proud of myself because
I changed my own tire. Now it's not the first
time ever I did that. I have triple A. But
there was a moment and my wife's texted me. She's like, well,
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do to call Triple A? Do you want to get
you know, Triple A out there. I was like, no,
I'm a man. I can change my own tire.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm a man, I'm already I can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So good, well, good, good for you, you know what.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Congratulations, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But I was thinking of myself in the moment, you know,
not that I was intending at that moment to bring
it onto the air.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But lay down and just like smudge stuff on your
flannel shirt to show that you actually did change.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
The a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, do you look at YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I did only for one thing because because my car
has little caps on the lug nuts.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So yeah, you don't have you like I do. It's
like specific you take off the caps and the lug nuts.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Though it's a specific it's like it's a tool tool
that they give you and only you need it. It's
only that one thing that can get those audio loved
nuts songs.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, and so it's anti theft, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But the problem is is I didn't have that tool
for some reason, so I had to like use a
like a screw drive to get those things off.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You just showed everybody how to steal your tires.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's sort of yes, yeah, yeah, but anyways, that's good.
You should you should feel good about yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So I I I definitely wasn't intended to bring on.
But I what I thought in that moment is if
I called Triple A and then I got to go
into the studio and face Dave.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
No, no, no, hell, I'd probably call Triple A.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I just want to know this. I mean, your puff
your chest out a little bit. Oh absolutely, honey. I
was like, you know, arms a little sore from you know,
the breaking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I got to get some new jeans because, you know,
the shoulders a little sore from you know, craving on
the thing for dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh you want meat to cook? Okay, put a steak
on breaking baked potato type dinner after That's.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, that's right, all right?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Five six sixty zeros or ka commas burial text line.
So I was as we were thinking about the draft,
and again it's a couple of weeks away and we'll
kind of ramp into it a little bit, even though
the Broncos don't have a first round pick, is there
if you're a building team right now, and again, every
players eventually either drafted or is a college free agent.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
They were in college one point, they eventually got to
the pros.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But as you're building a team, maybe more specifically the Broncos,
are there position groups that you prefer to look at
in the draft versus position groups that you would say,
I'd rather get that in free agency.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I want that guy to have some seasoning in the NFL.
I would say you would look at the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean just generally speaking, Yeah, offensive lineman. To me,
with this particular team, I'd look at the draft, okay,
because they can come in and afford a year to
learn behind these two veteran tackles to get acclimated.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To the NFL. So there's more of a grace period.
And I think you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Would say that there's a little bit of that depending
on what position and what team, right. I mean, certain
teams are loaded in an area, but they may they
may fall in love with the guy in the draft,
and that guy comes in, Well, the team knows that
more than likely you're not going to beat out one
of these guys. We're gonna have a good team this year.
We're a playoff caliber team. We might even be a
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championship caliber team, So that gives that they don't want
the player to know it, but that gives the player
the luxury of learning the game, picking the brains of
you know, guys that have been in the league for
a while and instead of coming in and saying, hey,
we're counting on you to play, so you better, you
better get up to speed quickly.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, I would say there's certain positions where you definitely
would rather have a veteran presence than a young guy,
because young guys they're going to have that learning curve
come into the league. Wide receiver is definitely one of them.
Say wide receiver, you know Hinton d Lineman, you know,
you know they just.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ahead of course, but you.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Know those type of guys though, and then especially dB,
those positions right there, it feels like you need a veteran,
seasoned guy because if you if you're looking for him
still still and you're looking for a guy who's going
to make a contribution, you don't really have time for
the for the learning phase. You don't have time for that.
So the idea is you bring a guy in that
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can kind of help everybody around him and be that
veteran presence and that's what you would be looking for,
especially in a in a draft that you know. I'm
not saying this, but I think a lot of people
have been saying that it's very hard fine quality d
lineman in this draft, and so it's and so that
also goes into it. Do you have to figure out, Okay,
how is this draft talent wise?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Do you think the Giants would rather have a maybe
a veteran defensive lineman or maybe a draft choice.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I think probably both. Yeah, I think both. I definitely
I assume they would. I wouldn't be surprived the Broncos,
do you know, go go both directions to try to
replace JFM and see if they can obviously, try out
a draft pick first, like lower a lower round draft pick,
and then if that doesn't work out, just go get
a veteran and teams do that when they're trying to compete.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
See. I do think that's part of the conversation, right.
It all is in relative to as Sean would say,
where your team is at right you might be drafting
certain positions knowing, well, we're not ready to do anything
just yet, so we're gonna lift through the bumps of
a young cornerback of a young, you know, young roster
in certain positions where it's like for the Broncos pick
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sixty two or otherwise, maybe you are trying to continue
to stock your debts underneath everything but unique contributors.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because you view yourself in a window, I.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Think, well, I think both things are true. Yeah, again,
I get back to Shade Baron this team last year,
the margin the margin of error was really thinned, right.
I mean, so many one score games, so many games
they had to come from behind in the fourth quarter.
So if you're not getting something extraordinary from a rookie
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in camp or in practice, or picking up a system
or being completely sound, you're just not gonna take a
chance of screwing up the mojo. When your team is
on a streak and they're finding ways to win in
improbable fashion, the defense is playing pretty damn good, and
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the guy that you're playing in front.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Of the rookie is making plays.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I mean, this team didn't have an abundance of interceptions
early or throughout the year, had a couple late in
the playoffs, but Jaquan McMillan at one point had two
and led the team at that point led the team
an interceptions so you're just really reluctant to tinker with
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the chemistry of a unit that's playing well, a veteran
player that's playing well, and an overall team that is
finding ways almost every single week to win. And oh,
by the way, you're in first place the AFC West.
You're just not You're not gonna make that move last year.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, But I guess my question is and because I
saw one of the callers on one of the text
signe guys saying, you know, draft a starter, but where
do you really need an instant contributor other than running
back really right now? And the issue I feel like
a lot of people, a lot of teams do is
you reach. You reach because you have such a position
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of need that you reach for a guy you probably
could have got the next round or even a round after,
and and that never works out either. And so you
have to approach this And the Broncos have great starting
depth pretty much all over, and so I feel like
you got approach her with the best man mentality. Whoever
the best man is up at that time when you're
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about to go draft, that's who you kind of have
to go get because there's really not many spots spots
to start on this team. There's not many spots for
a rookie to come in and contribute right away, and
so at that point you might as well just grab
the best talent.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Available, you know, players. Sorry, teams prefer not to use
the term reach. They prefer the term targets reach. We
targeted this guy, teach, you should have called Triple A
because your flannel would have gotten question.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That that's that's your flannel get dirty.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It did get dirty, but tear the flannel. You tore
the the jeens.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, just to to make sure I had to let
people know it was difficult. You know, it wasn't wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Easy, set in the driver's seat and tore the gens himself.
I did like this one as somebody who does roadside
assistants tell Ryan, thank you for being a man and
figure out how to do a tired GA. Yeah, that's right.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But again, I wasn't not calling Triple A just to
be nice to roadside assistance.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just thought in my mom moment, they're like, I
could do this. How long did it take you? Well
that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Want to get to It took me a lot longer.
Than I probably should have. But I haven't changed a
tire in a job got done year.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Job got done. Yeah, Hey, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And I used to change it entire Plus it took
me forever to get As somebody pointed out that the
plastic covers.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And the lug nuts, that was the thing that took
the longest. Don't don't make weird faces at me out
of at that shelby that that was actually kind of
a pain in the butt. Oh yeah, you made a face.
I saw the face.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh we're gonna hear from Jack Corgan coming up here
at the top of the air, looking forward to that.
The Rockies off to an incredible start. They're going to
play San Diego. This came out earlier today. So number
of games taken for the Rockies to record six wins
this year twelve last year, as we know toed yesterday
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Dave thirty one games, twenty twenty four, when they also
had a more than one hundred lost season twenty five games,
and then twenty games in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So they're playing They're playing good baseball. There really are
no doubt about it. They swept a Nastro's team.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Mmmmmmmm, and you were down on the man, I was not.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I think you you got to really be excited about
what's happening now. Obviously, what twelve games to how long?
One hundred and sixty two games season? We just get
one hundred and fifty to go?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's right? What were you were? You slowing down the brakes?
Honestly beaten?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
They've beaten good teams. Other did that first series? They
got the Phillies twice, and they got the Astros three times.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Miami is a winning record. They might be better than
we think. I hope.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So it's only good for baseball. It's only good for baseball.
But obviously, from what we've heard from some Rockies insiders
on even on the team, they have no fan base.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Hey, now, and I don't know if you guys saw the
video of those guys, the shirtless guys up there at
the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Did you see Did you see this?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Dave?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh my gosh, this is so great.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So this crowded guys that are I want to say
it started with just like here, I'm gonna show you
the video.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is great radio, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
This is uh, you can't really see it here. Let
me give me one second.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, there we go. So there's this this group of
guys is up here, yes, yes, just waving their shirt waving,
waving their shirts. They all took off their shirts and
there's chanting like a like, I don't know, I don't know,
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but you know, we're gonna ask Jack about it, because
I guess they were talking about it on KOA, Like
I saw people saying that they were commenting on a koa.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But these guys are chanting. They're all Rockies fans. They
were jeering at astros. They were they were making noises
to Bay when he's up to bat.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Perfect. But they all just took their shirts off. A
bunch of dudes being dudes and just hung out up
and they just like the kept growing.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I bet one of them actually changed the tire before
you got to the game, because that's what dudes do.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
What those are just dude, real dudes changed tires, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Would the masters, by the way, we haven't even talked
about that. Oh boy, do you pick? I don't pick.
I wanted to see how Shambow would go, but he did.
He had a bad day today.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I took Scheffler, Okay, he is, of course I think
he was a favorite too. Yeah, I took like three
shots off the pace. Roy's at the top right, Yeah, yeah,
you took reed. Okay, well else is taken already two
shots back like I'm in this uh this golf group.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Tat how's your golf game? You know, I attempt I
attempted golf.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is the golfer here in the studio, right, you
got fluid hips? Yeah, the tire changer.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Some only one man doesn't not ask often.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
My last time I went golfing was what last week
or the week before. But my drive is and slicing
like crazy. But my irons have actually been pretty good.
Putt game has been I'm actually I was really really
happy with my putt game last time I play.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Try putting a little bit of weight on your left foot,
on your on your front foot, and that'll help it.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Really If he's slicing the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I put more weight on my left foot, So that
means I'm putting too much weight on the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Back your bodies, your weight in front of the club.
That's right, you're shifting your way too fast. You need it.
You need to shift keep your weight forward. He's going
to keep his way back doesn't he.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Know, because if you're keeping weight back, then you're then
you're opening of the club face, you know, which you
need to keep your weight forward so you can close
the club face.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I've actually never I've taken nothing. I've taken one legit
lesson before and I just got one right here. So
that's too. Yeah, so I keep.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Doing I don't know if it's leg though. I keep telling.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Myself that, like every off season, I'm like, I'm going
to take time and take some lessons. In life just
kind of takes over.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So if you if you if you're getting in front
of the club and your body's in front of the club,
in other words, you transferred the weight to your left foot,
then you're going to slice the ball right.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
No, the idea is is so you line up.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, focus is on the left, is on your front foot,
keeping your weight centered a little bit more over your front.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Floor the studio, exactly what you're saying. It Actually it
keeps you more center, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Like, because what happens is you forget about it and
then back Yeah, the right hip, keep your weight a
little bit heavier on your left side because what happens
is you start to shift and then you're going to
open your club face, so keep your weight a little
more there, and.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They're feel did you feel the difference? I felt the difference.
Actually I actually hurt my hip.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I can feel the difference keeping the weight to the left.
I just never thought about it. Just felt more center.
I felt actually like a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
The second second lesson of your lifetime.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
When new people would join, they would say loudly chanting
one of us, one of us. Yeah, you can hear
it in the video, perfect, yeah like that. It says
I was first level behind home played. Was absolutely cracking
us up listening to it. I mean this is brand new,
right absolutely. It just happened yesterday at the game. Good
for that group, and I think the crowd grew. They
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just kept chanting one of us. It's it's hilarious to
listen to the video. It's fantastic. H So somebody says
Ryan actually has some athletic ability.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Now I don't know if I go that far. I
don't our golfers athletic.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, this is a different type, but I think, yeah
they can be.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think they can be too.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Bryan sitting there grinning like you know, he just got
nominated to sing lead in the choir.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But not all golfers are athletic.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I just needed for a moment to feel on some
kind of level with you guys. You know you you
former football players, A current football player.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I have welcomed into the studio with athletes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Not go let you get away with that that we're
not going to have that. If you feel like you
need to pat yourself on the back, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well he was the Texter. Was it even me? The
Texter is the one that said that I'm an athlete?
Your number.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Five, six, six zeros or k way comings for an
e'll text line, thanks for rolling with us. So, I
don't know if you guys saw this Shelby did earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
This came out last night.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
The Oregon quarterback coach and I'm going to butcher his
name and I apologize for that. It's coach Koaki, it's ka apostrophe.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
AI. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So he was doing a press conference and he was
talking about a question he asks his quarterbacks, and if
it's a bit of a past fail, but he asked
him this question about ice cream and that detells him
and deter to him what kind of quarterback you're going
to be.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
So here's what he said. I got ask him a
question like this all the time. Hey, do you like
chocolate ice cream or anil ice cream? Get a minute?
A kid pauses. I don't really want that kid, right,
because you need to have some type of conviction right,
wrong or indifferent. Hey, So whether you like chocolate or
you like vanilla, I don't really care. But if you
sit there and say, ah, coach, I don't know, I
want as it melted?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
What's the brand?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
So on and so forth, Like what is this kid
going to do on third down in front of one
hundred and ten thousand. It's probably going to think about
it more than he should. He's not going to have conviction, right.
So it's like I just said, long winded, I understand,
but it's the mental aspect is really what we're after.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He should have got that one to himself.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah that Hey, I'll due respect to him and Dan
Lenning in the program, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I swear to you, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
That's probably really sometimes you just try to outthink yourself. Yeah,
I want again, that's going to be really decisive, and
so you can't pop stop it's ice cream, right. Maybe
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he was taught growing up, you're gonna eat whatever we
put in front of you, chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, whatever. That
that's was he serious, he was being dead seriously.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's kind of the issue is you can see the
look on his facet face.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
That that's literally how they're you know, trying to look
at quarterbacks and that. And that's the problem is you're
making this too hard, like they've said, like you, you're
doing too much. There's no way that this has anything
to do with football, because you guys me chocolate and
another I'm gonna tell you strawberry, like you know what I.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Mean, that's that's why you play defensive line in a quarterback.
Other than you can't throw it.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You can't throw throw a lick. You should watch me
throw a ball. It's still you know, my dad was
in the back plane playing catch with me. I was
over there in the streets.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
I'm just telling you right now, like I I think
this is some of the dumbest that's not that's not
some of the dumbest things I've ever heard when it
comes to evaluating the decision making of a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You said, this is what's going to determine on third
down if they're want to think too much?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No wonder, I wonder if it would almost be like
if he met a prospective recruit and the recruit was
really what would be the right word, he was very respectful,
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yes sir, no sir, thank you, no, thank you?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Would you come to the conclusion that I'm not sure
that guy is going to be tough enough to play
in this program. It's that that's just that's beyond that's
beyond silly. And I'm I'm going to give him a
pass and say, maybe he was just trying to maybe
he's not used to talking to the media, and here's
the quarterback coach talking presumably to the media or was
that a podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I don't even know, this is the media.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But if I'm Dan Lanning, yeah, I'm gonna say, hey, man,
I mean, and maybe he thinks this this young guy
is an up and coming star as a coach, and
he very well might be. I don't know, but that's
that's not that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Like if my kid was going to Oregon if my
kid was a quarterback, which watch out for him, Shelby,
here's Junior. Uh, you know if my if my youngest
son was a quarterback, and let's say Oregon was a Listen,
I heard that. I bet yeah, you're not going to Oregon.
Obviously they're not worried about football. They're worried about if
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you like Fidella chocolate.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It reminded me a little bit of some of those
weird questions that the prospects get at the combine.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know, we've we've done that. Was it Des Bryant years.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Ago where one of the coaches wanted to throw him
off his game and ask him about his mom being
a prostitute or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But well, no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's what reminded me of, Yeah, this is like on
a much lower scale, But it sounded like a question
you'd ask somebody to throw them off and maybe there's
something to the I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something at
you to see just how you react to it. I
just didn't, I said, to your point, I just didn't
like his reasoning, Like it's a very black and white
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past fail. Like you said, you may not even like
ice cream or if you're lactose intolerance.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't know. If you're talking to eat, what's I
don't care. Hey, listen whatever you put in front me,
I'm good. What does that means?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Does that mean he's he can't play quarterback?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean it's just I'm sure he was doing his best.
Head coach. Well, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
It's just like when teams ask you during the draft process,
who's your favorite team? And the whole time I was like, oh,
I'm a Packer fan fan. But like they appreciated the
honesty about it, because a lot of teams would be like, hey,
a lot of people like call whoever you want me
to be?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You guys are my favorite team? No, that's not what
I want. I wonder how that answer got graded. Good question?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I got drafted with some with some with some teams say, well,
we represent pick a team, the Tennessee Titans. And we
asked this dude who his favorite team was, and he
said the Packers. We're sitting right in here, all were
in Tennessee stuff. And so with some teams downgrade a
player for that answer, as opposed to other teams say, man,
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I like it. I like the fact that he was
honest about it. So that's what makes it really silly.
It's just it's a silly exercise. You're trying to get
and the NFL does it a lot, and now college
football is doing it a little bit. You're trying to
get into the head, you know, to understand the competitiveness
and the psyche of the player. All you got to
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do is watch him on tape and talk to his
coaches and you'll know, is this dude really competitive?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is he smart? Is he tough mentally on the field?
Is he physically tough?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
You'll have all those answers, not the chocolate and vanilla question.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Man, You've got to see him play. I want to
see you call a huddle. I want to see the
way you work with your team mates, you know what
I mean. I think all that stuff for a quarterback
is very important because.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I want to see you get up after somebody that
looks like Shelby puts the crown of their helmet under
your chin and air lifts you about five yards and
you get up. You got to get back to the
huddled second ten. You don't look over, and you know,
unless you're hurt don't look over and be like, hey,
get me out of here.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And you know who does that? An Oregon quarterback, the
man Justin Herbert. That's how he gains the league's respect.
These guys are getting smacked every time he got up
like nothing was wrong. You know, it hurt him. You
might hear saying ah, but then he get up real
quick like nothing's wrong. And that's for me obviously watching
him play and being around for his first couple of
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years being on the Broncos and playing against him multiple times,
I just always every time I play him, his old
line is never very good and he gets hit a
lot and he just gets up. And so that right there,
I'm sure as a defensive player I respected it. I
can't imagine what the rest of the team felt like
when they saw, like, yeah, we'll not protecting him very well,
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but hey, we know he's going he's going to get
up and he's going to find a way to play
for us every play.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So it was one more thing on this, and then
I want to talk about Coach Prime saying he'd like
to have CUCSU do scrimmages in the spring.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I want to just.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Ask you, is there do you guys actually have an
inherent value in asking a question that's a nonscripted kind
of question in general, whether it's here in a quarterback
room or it's at the combine, because I think the
design of it correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I feel like the design of it is these young.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Prospects or these players are sort of coached up to
say the right thing. They're all told exactly what you're
supposed to say in those moments. I don't know if
your agent love that you said the packers, but I imagine
that there was a little bit of coaching in the
pre process of going to the combine. This is what
they're going to be asked about, and this is what
you should probably talk about, so on and so forth.
So is there something too, maybe one of those kinds
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of questions, whether it's ice cream or otherwise, that you
can gain information?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
See, I guess the way I look at it, I
look at those questions differently because coming out of college,
I guess I technically had character issues, and so for me,
I always went into these interviews and stuff with the
idea of just being one hundred percent honest about everything,
and it worked out. You know what, I mean, I
think teams appreciate honesty rather than a show because once again,
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you can get a read on a real honest person
like that, and we always talk about it. You can
always tell when someone's being genuine or when someone's being manufactured.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But I think I agree with Shelby, but I think
the NFL team or college team has to ask questions
of the player that allow him to show that he's
being genuine right, or show that he's trying to manufacture.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, to ask a guy and to be.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
So definitive in terms of how he answers, I'm going
to conclude in a very short period of time that
he's either a guy that can play for me or
not play for me based on what do you like
chocolate or vanilla ice cream? That's why that doesn't that
doesn't make any sense at all if you want to
talk about I mean, ask a player about, Hey, you
know what we've seen that you had a tough time,
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you know, coming out of high school. There were two
or three things that happened that you know that I'm
quite sure you'd like to like to have back talk
about those things and talk about what happened and how
you're different. Now, okay, now you'll be Now you grade
that guy on is he is he pissed about having
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to answer? How does the answer? Does he blow it off?
Is he like, hey, you know that really wasn't me.
I've got in trouble with a friend and I took
the raft with them. I mean, what does he say
that gives you comfort as an NFL team that we
can draft this guy wherever he's going to be drafted
based on what that answer was with a really important
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issue or issues in his life, not chocolate and vanilla
ice cream. Yeah, there's not not a good question. But
also it's just what do you what do you expect
to get out of it? Because what would befitive what
he said? What he tried to say, you try to
get out of it and what you really get out
of it or two different things. And listen, you don't
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you don't always there's gonna be times where you want
I mean, your quarterback. It's not a matter of not
being definitive, but it's a matter of reading something and
you're you're about to let it go and all of
a sudden you're like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Nope, well okay.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Some would say that's a hesitation that's a reluctance to
make that throw. Others would say that's a guy that
saw late a safety driving that basic route and said
if I throw that, I'm going to get him killed
or the ball picked, I'm going to the checkdown.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So yeah, I just think that's a dumb question. And
by the way, he was roasted on Twitter for that question,
like universal for it.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So should be, because we're asking questions that one nothing
to do a character and have nothing to do with football. Yeah,
and you're trying to get some football relevance out of
questions that are elementary. If you think about what's your
favorite chocolate or vanilla? Yeah, like, come on, we're older
than that. We're like, these guys are more mature than that.
And but then also to go off and say that
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you don't want guys or if they can't choose between chocolate.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Or vanilla, you don't want them, silly.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I bet I think can run a four to four,
throw the ball eighty yards, You're going to take him regardless.
So it's just why even say that in the first place.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Definitely, So Coach Prime yesterday was speaking to the media
and we played a little bit of sound I just
a couple days ago, played a couple of soundbites from him.
He said something that has gotten even CSU fans excited
about the idea of it. Now, I don't I think
the n C DOAA, who continues to not be all
that great, will probably shoot it down. But here's Coach
Prime talking about how he wishes he could scrimmage against CSU.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I would like to go down the street and play
a home in a way against lad of State. I
think is only right, like an exhibition. Yeah, yeah, I
think it's a beautiful thing. We're gonna gonna sell a
stateium out. We're gonna sell their stateium ount and it's
a two year deal.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
We go home and away. It's I think it's appropriate,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
You guys get a lot of it. And we want
to measure ourselves against not just ourselves, getting someone else,
Like if the offense is doing well, what does that
say about the defense and vice versa. We want to
really measure ourselves against another worthy opponent that don't know
us like they do. You don't even have to let
us spare a game. Can we practice against Just let
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us practice against.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Him a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, And so that we have the Black and Gold
spring game coming up on Saturday, and so you know
the coach prime last year, Dave was trying to get
something going with Syracuse. Remember he was trying today in
CBA shut it down. What do you think about the
idea of seeing you and CSU doing some kind of
spring practice screen spring scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I think it'd be great. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I think you know, you you want to get as
much work as you can, and when you come back
from the summer, you know they'll start, well will they
start probably first of August. Then you're in kind of
a to me, you're in kind of a gray area
because you got to you still got to go at
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it a little bit, but you're close enough to the
opener that if you get somebody nicked, chances are they
might not be ready to play.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Hope nobody gets nicked in these scrimmages, we'll CSU and
see you. But if you do, unless it's you know,
a really really serious injury, they've got some time where
they can rehab and get better. So yeah, I like it.
I think fans would like it. I think it'd be
I think it'd be a hit. I mean, to me,
see you and see if you should play every single year,
But that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I think this is the next best thing.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I guess my issue with this, and I really don't
have much issue at all, is this when is the
transferport open? And I think that's kind of the issue
that they had before when he mentioned this a couple
of years ago, is that right after spring ball there
was a transfer people to go into the transferportal again.
So you can't have a scrimmage like this because people
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will call it scouting, you know what I mean. Ah,
And then especially don't let you have a scrimmage like
this and then a couple of players go to the
other team. That's going to be an issue. And so
you have to be able to figure that part out.
If you were able to close that transfer portal until
you know that was they would have to leave by
a certain time in spring ball and then they're kind
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of there. Then you could probably see some teams run
with this idea, but I don't think you really see
it for as long as the transferportals open after spring ball,
because everyone's just going to claim you're recruiting my players
while they're still here. And so that wouldn't make sense,
but the whole idea makes a ton of sense. I
love that idea. It's just like the NFL, you know,
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when we do the joint.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Practices, right, that's what it feels like. The whole point of.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
It is to get work against people you don't see
every day, and a lot of people are I guess
you might not realize this, but you learn your teammates,
you learn what they do well, you learn what they
can't do well, and so you specifically work on that
to beat your teammates. But then when you're playing a
guy you don't really know, you got to go out
there and just play football. And that's I think one
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of the best evaluators you can have is when you're
just playing somebody that you don't see all the time,
and especially if you're talking about a spring game.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You're not gonna watch filming these.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
People either, So you're just going off there just playing
the game. And it's kind of how we do in
the joint practices. You don't watch filming these guys before
you do a joint practice. Go out there, you just
play and you let whatever happens happens. Now, also a
big thing that also happens in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Fights.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Fights are definitely way more prone to pop off when
you're playing an opposing team because pride now gets involved.
You don't want to get embarrassed when somebody might moss
you go on top, go up top and don't go
on you and grabbed the ball and look down on you.
Now now it's a fight. Oh, you tried to embarrass me.
And so that that like in the NFL, they have ways,
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like coaches have ways they punish that. Like I know
Kevin Sirfanski what he would do for joint practices. It
would be if you weren't supposed to play in the
game and you get in a fight and practice, you're
going to now play in the game. And if you
were supposed to play in the game and you're get
in the fight, you won't play. And so and that's
just one way to you know, one way to do it.
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But you've got to find a way to actually get
the work in. And we're now in this day and
age of social media where the social media is from
each team is trying to embarrass somebody trying to do this,
and so it's so much ugliness that could come from
these scrimmages, but also has so much good work that
could come too completely agree.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
By the way, there was a video circulating from a
practice earlier this week for SeeU or Julian Lewis had
to tackle somebody. The quarterback of you had to tackle
somebody that was in the midst of a fight, like
he wasn't actively in the fight, but then a fight
broke out and then he tackled the dude to the
ground to stop it. And the quote here is Coach
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Prime's program continues to have fights daily throughout the spring.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And I'm like, you guys are just it feels like,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I happen to know this particular fight you're talking about.
You know what they were fighting about chocolate and vanilla.
You think Julia loses a chocolate Julia was trying to
chocolate like It's like, man, it's vanilla all the way.
And then it just got nasty.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh boy, especially the trenches there, I can imagine. All right,
Welcome back, Jack Corgan joins us
We're going to have Jack Coryan joining us after five
o'clock again. He reminder Garret Bolson studio with us at
three o'clock tomorrow, looking forward to catching up with Garrett. Dave,
you'd be I hope you'd be proud of me. I
was telling Shelby about this during one of the breaks.
So last night, one of my biggest fears is driving
on the highway and getting a flat or a blowout.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And so I was driving home last night. Sure enough,
flat flat tire.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, something rolled up inside my front left and my
sensor immediately went off, said your tire is flat, like
you know, it's low pressure kind of thing. And you know,
I'm at four seventy nine twenty five at that point,
so there's no like off shoot.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And so I eventually made it to Lincoln, got to
a gas station, you know, got out of the car,
tire's gone, tried to just you know, you hit something. Yeah,
I just some kind of metal something went up inside
the the thing. But I was proud of myself because
I changed my own tire. Now it's not the first
time ever I did that. I have triple A. But
there was a moment and my wife's texted me. She's like, well,
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do to call Triple A? Do you want to get
you know, Triple A out there. I was like, no,
I'm a man. I can change my own tire.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm a man, I'm already I can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So good, well, good, good for you, you know what.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Congratulations, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But I was thinking of myself in the moment, you know,
not that I was intending at that moment to bring
it onto the air.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But lay down and just like smudge stuff on your
flannel shirt to show that you actually did change.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
The a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, do you look at YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I did only for one thing because because my car
has little caps on the lug nuts.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So yeah, you don't have you like I do. It's
like specific you take off the caps and the lug nuts.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Though it's a specific it's like it's a tool tool
that they give you and only you need it. It's
only that one thing that can get those audio loved
nuts songs.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, and so it's anti theft, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But the problem is is I didn't have that tool
for some reason, so I had to like use a
like a screw drive to get those things off.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You just showed everybody how to steal your tires.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's sort of yes, yeah, yeah, but anyways, that's good.
You should you should feel good about yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So I I I definitely wasn't intended to bring on.
But I what I thought in that moment is if
I called Triple A and then I got to go
into the studio and face Dave.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
No, no, no, hell, I'd probably call Triple A.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I just want to know this. I mean, your puff
your chest out a little bit. Oh absolutely, honey. I
was like, you know, arms a little sore from you know,
the breaking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I got to get some new jeans because, you know,
the shoulders a little sore from you know, craving on
the thing for dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh you want meat to cook? Okay, put a steak
on breaking baked potato type dinner after That's.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, that's right, all right?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Five six sixty zeros or ka commas burial text line.
So I was as we were thinking about the draft,
and again it's a couple of weeks away and we'll
kind of ramp into it a little bit, even though
the Broncos don't have a first round pick, is there
if you're a building team right now, and again, every
players eventually either drafted or is a college free agent.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
They were in college one point, they eventually got to
the pros.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But as you're building a team, maybe more specifically the Broncos,
are there position groups that you prefer to look at
in the draft versus position groups that you would say,
I'd rather get that in free agency.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I want that guy to have some seasoning in the NFL.
I would say you would look at the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean just generally speaking, Yeah, offensive lineman. To me,
with this particular team, I'd look at the draft, okay,
because they can come in and afford a year to
learn behind these two veteran tackles to get acclimated.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To the NFL. So there's more of a grace period.
And I think you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Would say that there's a little bit of that depending
on what position and what team, right. I mean, certain
teams are loaded in an area, but they may they
may fall in love with the guy in the draft,
and that guy comes in, Well, the team knows that
more than likely you're not going to beat out one
of these guys. We're gonna have a good team this year.
We're a playoff caliber team. We might even be a
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championship caliber team, So that gives that they don't want
the player to know it, but that gives the player
the luxury of learning the game, picking the brains of
you know, guys that have been in the league for
a while and instead of coming in and saying, hey,
we're counting on you to play, so you better, you
better get up to speed quickly.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, I would say there's certain positions where you definitely
would rather have a veteran presence than a young guy,
because young guys they're going to have that learning curve
come into the league. Wide receiver is definitely one of them.
Say wide receiver, you know Hinton d Lineman, you know,
you know they just.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ahead of course, but you.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Know those type of guys though, and then especially dB,
those positions right there, it feels like you need a veteran,
seasoned guy because if you if you're looking for him
still still and you're looking for a guy who's going
to make a contribution, you don't really have time for
the for the learning phase. You don't have time for that.
So the idea is you bring a guy in that
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can kind of help everybody around him and be that
veteran presence and that's what you would be looking for,
especially in a in a draft that you know. I'm
not saying this, but I think a lot of people
have been saying that it's very hard fine quality d
lineman in this draft, and so it's and so that
also goes into it. Do you have to figure out, Okay,
how is this draft talent wise?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Do you think the Giants would rather have a maybe
a veteran defensive lineman or maybe a draft choice.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I think probably both. Yeah, I think both. I definitely
I assume they would. I wouldn't be surprived the Broncos,
do you know, go go both directions to try to
replace JFM and see if they can obviously, try out
a draft pick first, like lower a lower round draft pick,
and then if that doesn't work out, just go get
a veteran and teams do that when they're trying to compete.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
See. I do think that's part of the conversation, right.
It all is in relative to as Sean would say,
where your team is at right you might be drafting
certain positions knowing, well, we're not ready to do anything
just yet, so we're gonna lift through the bumps of
a young cornerback of a young, you know, young roster
in certain positions where it's like for the Broncos pick
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sixty two or otherwise, maybe you are trying to continue
to stock your debts underneath everything but unique contributors.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because you view yourself in a window, I.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Think, well, I think both things are true. Yeah, again,
I get back to Shade Baron this team last year,
the margin the margin of error was really thinned, right.
I mean, so many one score games, so many games
they had to come from behind in the fourth quarter.
So if you're not getting something extraordinary from a rookie
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in camp or in practice, or picking up a system
or being completely sound, you're just not gonna take a
chance of screwing up the mojo. When your team is
on a streak and they're finding ways to win in
improbable fashion, the defense is playing pretty damn good, and
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the guy that you're playing in front.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Of the rookie is making plays.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I mean, this team didn't have an abundance of interceptions
early or throughout the year, had a couple late in
the playoffs, but Jaquan McMillan at one point had two
and led the team at that point led the team
an interceptions so you're just really reluctant to tinker with
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the chemistry of a unit that's playing well, a veteran
player that's playing well, and an overall team that is
finding ways almost every single week to win. And oh,
by the way, you're in first place the AFC West.
You're just not You're not gonna make that move last year.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, But I guess my question is and because I
saw one of the callers on one of the text
signe guys saying, you know, draft a starter, but where
do you really need an instant contributor other than running
back really right now? And the issue I feel like
a lot of people, a lot of teams do is
you reach. You reach because you have such a position
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of need that you reach for a guy you probably
could have got the next round or even a round after,
and and that never works out either. And so you
have to approach this And the Broncos have great starting
depth pretty much all over, and so I feel like
you got approach her with the best man mentality. Whoever
the best man is up at that time when you're
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about to go draft, that's who you kind of have
to go get because there's really not many spots spots
to start on this team. There's not many spots for
a rookie to come in and contribute right away, and
so at that point you might as well just grab
the best talent.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Available, you know, players. Sorry, teams prefer not to use
the term reach. They prefer the term targets reach. We
targeted this guy, teach, you should have called Triple A
because your flannel would have gotten question.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That that's that's your flannel get dirty.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It did get dirty, but tear the flannel. You tore
the the jeens.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, just to to make sure I had to let
people know it was difficult. You know, it wasn't wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Easy, set in the driver's seat and tore the gens himself.
I did like this one as somebody who does roadside
assistants tell Ryan, thank you for being a man and
figure out how to do a tired GA. Yeah, that's right.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But again, I wasn't not calling Triple A just to
be nice to roadside assistance.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just thought in my mom moment, they're like, I
could do this. How long did it take you? Well
that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Want to get to It took me a lot longer.
Than I probably should have. But I haven't changed a
tire in a job got done year.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Job got done. Yeah, Hey, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And I used to change it entire Plus it took
me forever to get As somebody pointed out that the
plastic covers.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And the lug nuts, that was the thing that took
the longest. Don't don't make weird faces at me out
of at that shelby that that was actually kind of
a pain in the butt. Oh yeah, you made a face.
I saw the face.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh we're gonna hear from Jack Corgan coming up here
at the top of the air, looking forward to that.
The Rockies off to an incredible start. They're going to
play San Diego. This came out earlier today. So number
of games taken for the Rockies to record six wins
this year twelve last year, as we know toed yesterday
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Dave thirty one games, twenty twenty four, when they also
had a more than one hundred lost season twenty five games,
and then twenty games in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So they're playing They're playing good baseball. There really are
no doubt about it. They swept a Nastro's team.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Mmmmmmmm, and you were down on the man, I was not.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I think you you got to really be excited about
what's happening now. Obviously, what twelve games to how long?
One hundred and sixty two games season? We just get
one hundred and fifty to go?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's right? What were you were? You slowing down the brakes?
Honestly beaten?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
They've beaten good teams. Other did that first series? They
got the Phillies twice, and they got the Astros three times.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Miami is a winning record. They might be better than
we think. I hope.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So it's only good for baseball. It's only good for baseball.
But obviously, from what we've heard from some Rockies insiders
on even on the team, they have no fan base.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Hey, now, and I don't know if you guys saw the
video of those guys, the shirtless guys up there at
the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Did you see Did you see this?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Dave?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh my gosh, this is so great.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So this crowded guys that are I want to say
it started with just like here, I'm gonna show you
the video.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is great radio, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
This is uh, you can't really see it here. Let
me give me one second.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, there we go. So there's this this group of
guys is up here, yes, yes, just waving their shirt waving,
waving their shirts. They all took off their shirts and
there's chanting like a like, I don't know, I don't know,
(12:33):
but you know, we're gonna ask Jack about it, because
I guess they were talking about it on KOA, Like
I saw people saying that they were commenting on a koa.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But these guys are chanting. They're all Rockies fans. They
were jeering at astros. They were they were making noises
to Bay when he's up to bat.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Perfect. But they all just took their shirts off. A
bunch of dudes being dudes and just hung out up
and they just like the kept growing.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I bet one of them actually changed the tire before
you got to the game, because that's what dudes do.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
What those are just dude, real dudes changed tires, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Would the masters, by the way, we haven't even talked
about that. Oh boy, do you pick? I don't pick.
I wanted to see how Shambow would go, but he did.
He had a bad day today.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I took Scheffler, Okay, he is, of course I think
he was a favorite too. Yeah, I took like three
shots off the pace. Roy's at the top right, Yeah, yeah,
you took reed. Okay, well else is taken already two
shots back like I'm in this uh this golf group.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Tat how's your golf game? You know, I attempt I
attempted golf.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is the golfer here in the studio, right, you
got fluid hips? Yeah, the tire changer.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Some only one man doesn't not ask often.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
My last time I went golfing was what last week
or the week before. But my drive is and slicing
like crazy. But my irons have actually been pretty good.
Putt game has been I'm actually I was really really
happy with my putt game last time I play.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Try putting a little bit of weight on your left foot,
on your on your front foot, and that'll help it.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Really If he's slicing the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I put more weight on my left foot, So that
means I'm putting too much weight on the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Back your bodies, your weight in front of the club.
That's right, you're shifting your way too fast. You need it.
You need to shift keep your weight forward. He's going
to keep his way back doesn't he.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Know, because if you're keeping weight back, then you're then
you're opening of the club face, you know, which you
need to keep your weight forward so you can close
the club face.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I've actually never I've taken nothing. I've taken one legit
lesson before and I just got one right here. So
that's too. Yeah, so I keep.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Doing I don't know if it's leg though. I keep telling.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Myself that, like every off season, I'm like, I'm going
to take time and take some lessons. In life just
kind of takes over.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So if you if you if you're getting in front
of the club and your body's in front of the club,
in other words, you transferred the weight to your left foot,
then you're going to slice the ball right.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
No, the idea is is so you line up.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, focus is on the left, is on your front foot,
keeping your weight centered a little bit more over your front.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Floor the studio, exactly what you're saying. It Actually it
keeps you more center, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Like, because what happens is you forget about it and
then back Yeah, the right hip, keep your weight a
little bit heavier on your left side because what happens
is you start to shift and then you're going to
open your club face, so keep your weight a little
more there, and.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They're feel did you feel the difference? I felt the difference.
Actually I actually hurt my hip.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I can feel the difference keeping the weight to the left.
I just never thought about it. Just felt more center.
I felt actually like a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
The second second lesson of your lifetime.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
When new people would join, they would say loudly chanting
one of us, one of us. Yeah, you can hear
it in the video, perfect, yeah like that. It says
I was first level behind home played. Was absolutely cracking
us up listening to it. I mean this is brand new,
right absolutely. It just happened yesterday at the game. Good
for that group, and I think the crowd grew. They
(16:27):
just kept chanting one of us. It's it's hilarious to
listen to the video. It's fantastic. H So somebody says
Ryan actually has some athletic ability.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Now I don't know if I go that far. I
don't our golfers athletic.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, this is a different type, but I think, yeah
they can be.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think they can be too.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Bryan sitting there grinning like you know, he just got
nominated to sing lead in the choir.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But not all golfers are athletic.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I just needed for a moment to feel on some
kind of level with you guys. You know you you
former football players, A current football player.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I have welcomed into the studio with athletes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Not go let you get away with that that we're
not going to have that. If you feel like you
need to pat yourself on the back, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well he was the Texter. Was it even me? The
Texter is the one that said that I'm an athlete?
Your number.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Five, six, six zeros or k way comings for an
e'll text line, thanks for rolling with us. So, I
don't know if you guys saw this Shelby did earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
This came out last night.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
The Oregon quarterback coach and I'm going to butcher his
name and I apologize for that. It's coach Koaki, it's ka apostrophe.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
AI. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So he was doing a press conference and he was
talking about a question he asks his quarterbacks, and if
it's a bit of a past fail, but he asked
him this question about ice cream and that detells him
and deter to him what kind of quarterback you're going
to be.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
So here's what he said. I got ask him a
question like this all the time. Hey, do you like
chocolate ice cream or anil ice cream? Get a minute?
A kid pauses. I don't really want that kid, right,
because you need to have some type of conviction right,
wrong or indifferent. Hey, So whether you like chocolate or
you like vanilla, I don't really care. But if you
sit there and say, ah, coach, I don't know, I
want as it melted?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
What's the brand?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
So on and so forth, Like what is this kid
going to do on third down in front of one
hundred and ten thousand. It's probably going to think about
it more than he should. He's not going to have conviction, right.
So it's like I just said, long winded, I understand,
but it's the mental aspect is really what we're after.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He should have got that one to himself.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah that Hey, I'll due respect to him and Dan
Lenning in the program, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I swear to you, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
That's probably really sometimes you just try to outthink yourself. Yeah,
I want again, that's going to be really decisive, and
so you can't pop stop it's ice cream, right. Maybe
(18:57):
he was taught growing up, you're gonna eat whatever we
put in front of you, chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, whatever. That
that's was he serious, he was being dead seriously.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's kind of the issue is you can see the
look on his facet face.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
That that's literally how they're you know, trying to look
at quarterbacks and that. And that's the problem is you're
making this too hard, like they've said, like you, you're
doing too much. There's no way that this has anything
to do with football, because you guys me chocolate and
another I'm gonna tell you strawberry, like you know what I.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Mean, that's that's why you play defensive line in a quarterback.
Other than you can't throw it.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You can't throw throw a lick. You should watch me
throw a ball. It's still you know, my dad was
in the back plane playing catch with me. I was
over there in the streets.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
I'm just telling you right now, like I I think
this is some of the dumbest that's not that's not
some of the dumbest things I've ever heard when it
comes to evaluating the decision making of a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You said, this is what's going to determine on third
down if they're want to think too much?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No wonder, I wonder if it would almost be like
if he met a prospective recruit and the recruit was
really what would be the right word, he was very respectful,
(20:31):
yes sir, no sir, thank you, no, thank you?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Would you come to the conclusion that I'm not sure
that guy is going to be tough enough to play
in this program. It's that that's just that's beyond that's
beyond silly. And I'm I'm going to give him a
pass and say, maybe he was just trying to maybe
he's not used to talking to the media, and here's
the quarterback coach talking presumably to the media or was
that a podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I don't even know, this is the media.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But if I'm Dan Lanning, yeah, I'm gonna say, hey, man,
I mean, and maybe he thinks this this young guy
is an up and coming star as a coach, and
he very well might be. I don't know, but that's
that's not that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Like if my kid was going to Oregon if my
kid was a quarterback, which watch out for him, Shelby,
here's Junior. Uh, you know if my if my youngest
son was a quarterback, and let's say Oregon was a Listen,
I heard that. I bet yeah, you're not going to Oregon.
Obviously they're not worried about football. They're worried about if
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you like Fidella chocolate.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It reminded me a little bit of some of those
weird questions that the prospects get at the combine.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know, we've we've done that. Was it Des Bryant years.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Ago where one of the coaches wanted to throw him
off his game and ask him about his mom being
a prostitute or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But well, no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's what reminded me of, Yeah, this is like on
a much lower scale, But it sounded like a question
you'd ask somebody to throw them off and maybe there's
something to the I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something at
you to see just how you react to it. I
just didn't, I said, to your point, I just didn't
like his reasoning, Like it's a very black and white
(22:14):
past fail. Like you said, you may not even like
ice cream or if you're lactose intolerance.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't know. If you're talking to eat, what's I
don't care. Hey, listen whatever you put in front me,
I'm good. What does that means?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Does that mean he's he can't play quarterback?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean it's just I'm sure he was doing his best.
Head coach. Well, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
It's just like when teams ask you during the draft process,
who's your favorite team? And the whole time I was like, oh,
I'm a Packer fan fan. But like they appreciated the
honesty about it, because a lot of teams would be like, hey,
a lot of people like call whoever you want me
to be?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You guys are my favorite team? No, that's not what
I want. I wonder how that answer got graded. Good question?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I got drafted with some with some with some teams say, well,
we represent pick a team, the Tennessee Titans. And we
asked this dude who his favorite team was, and he
said the Packers. We're sitting right in here, all were
in Tennessee stuff. And so with some teams downgrade a
player for that answer, as opposed to other teams say, man,
(23:16):
I like it. I like the fact that he was
honest about it. So that's what makes it really silly.
It's just it's a silly exercise. You're trying to get
and the NFL does it a lot, and now college
football is doing it a little bit. You're trying to
get into the head, you know, to understand the competitiveness
and the psyche of the player. All you got to
(23:38):
do is watch him on tape and talk to his
coaches and you'll know, is this dude really competitive?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is he smart? Is he tough mentally on the field?
Is he physically tough?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
You'll have all those answers, not the chocolate and vanilla question.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Man, You've got to see him play. I want to
see you call a huddle. I want to see the
way you work with your team mates, you know what
I mean. I think all that stuff for a quarterback
is very important because.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I want to see you get up after somebody that
looks like Shelby puts the crown of their helmet under
your chin and air lifts you about five yards and
you get up. You got to get back to the
huddled second ten. You don't look over, and you know,
unless you're hurt don't look over and be like, hey,
get me out of here.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And you know who does that? An Oregon quarterback, the
man Justin Herbert. That's how he gains the league's respect.
These guys are getting smacked every time he got up
like nothing was wrong. You know, it hurt him. You
might hear saying ah, but then he get up real
quick like nothing's wrong. And that's for me obviously watching
him play and being around for his first couple of
(24:42):
years being on the Broncos and playing against him multiple times,
I just always every time I play him, his old
line is never very good and he gets hit a
lot and he just gets up. And so that right there,
I'm sure as a defensive player I respected it. I
can't imagine what the rest of the team felt like
when they saw, like, yeah, we'll not protecting him very well,
(25:02):
but hey, we know he's going he's going to get
up and he's going to find a way to play
for us every play.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So it was one more thing on this, and then
I want to talk about Coach Prime saying he'd like
to have CUCSU do scrimmages in the spring.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I want to just.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Ask you, is there do you guys actually have an
inherent value in asking a question that's a nonscripted kind
of question in general, whether it's here in a quarterback
room or it's at the combine, because I think the
design of it correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I feel like the design of it is these young.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Prospects or these players are sort of coached up to
say the right thing. They're all told exactly what you're
supposed to say in those moments. I don't know if
your agent love that you said the packers, but I imagine
that there was a little bit of coaching in the
pre process of going to the combine. This is what
they're going to be asked about, and this is what
you should probably talk about, so on and so forth.
So is there something too, maybe one of those kinds
(25:56):
of questions, whether it's ice cream or otherwise, that you
can gain information?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
See, I guess the way I look at it, I
look at those questions differently because coming out of college,
I guess I technically had character issues, and so for me,
I always went into these interviews and stuff with the
idea of just being one hundred percent honest about everything,
and it worked out. You know what, I mean, I
think teams appreciate honesty rather than a show because once again,
(26:27):
you can get a read on a real honest person
like that, and we always talk about it. You can
always tell when someone's being genuine or when someone's being manufactured.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But I think I agree with Shelby, but I think
the NFL team or college team has to ask questions
of the player that allow him to show that he's
being genuine right, or show that he's trying to manufacture.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, to ask a guy and to be.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
So definitive in terms of how he answers, I'm going
to conclude in a very short period of time that
he's either a guy that can play for me or
not play for me based on what do you like
chocolate or vanilla ice cream? That's why that doesn't that
doesn't make any sense at all if you want to
talk about I mean, ask a player about, Hey, you
know what we've seen that you had a tough time,
(27:14):
you know, coming out of high school. There were two
or three things that happened that you know that I'm
quite sure you'd like to like to have back talk
about those things and talk about what happened and how
you're different. Now, okay, now you'll be Now you grade
that guy on is he is he pissed about having
(27:35):
to answer? How does the answer? Does he blow it off?
Is he like, hey, you know that really wasn't me.
I've got in trouble with a friend and I took
the raft with them. I mean, what does he say
that gives you comfort as an NFL team that we
can draft this guy wherever he's going to be drafted
based on what that answer was with a really important
(27:55):
issue or issues in his life, not chocolate and vanilla
ice cream. Yeah, there's not not a good question. But
also it's just what do you what do you expect
to get out of it? Because what would befitive what
he said? What he tried to say, you try to
get out of it and what you really get out
of it or two different things. And listen, you don't
(28:16):
you don't always there's gonna be times where you want
I mean, your quarterback. It's not a matter of not
being definitive, but it's a matter of reading something and
you're you're about to let it go and all of
a sudden you're like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Nope, well okay.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Some would say that's a hesitation that's a reluctance to
make that throw. Others would say that's a guy that
saw late a safety driving that basic route and said
if I throw that, I'm going to get him killed
or the ball picked, I'm going to the checkdown.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So yeah, I just think that's a dumb question. And
by the way, he was roasted on Twitter for that question,
like universal for it.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So should be, because we're asking questions that one nothing
to do a character and have nothing to do with football. Yeah,
and you're trying to get some football relevance out of
questions that are elementary. If you think about what's your
favorite chocolate or vanilla? Yeah, like, come on, we're older
than that. We're like, these guys are more mature than that.
And but then also to go off and say that
(29:19):
you don't want guys or if they can't choose between chocolate.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Or vanilla, you don't want them, silly.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I bet I think can run a four to four,
throw the ball eighty yards, You're going to take him regardless.
So it's just why even say that in the first place.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Definitely, So Coach Prime yesterday was speaking to the media
and we played a little bit of sound I just
a couple days ago, played a couple of soundbites from him.
He said something that has gotten even CSU fans excited
about the idea of it. Now, I don't I think
the n C DOAA, who continues to not be all
that great, will probably shoot it down. But here's Coach
Prime talking about how he wishes he could scrimmage against CSU.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I would like to go down the street and play
a home in a way against lad of State. I
think is only right, like an exhibition. Yeah, yeah, I
think it's a beautiful thing. We're gonna gonna sell a
stateium out. We're gonna sell their stateium ount and it's
a two year deal.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
We go home and away. It's I think it's appropriate,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
You guys get a lot of it. And we want
to measure ourselves against not just ourselves, getting someone else,
Like if the offense is doing well, what does that
say about the defense and vice versa. We want to
really measure ourselves against another worthy opponent that don't know
us like they do. You don't even have to let
us spare a game. Can we practice against Just let
(30:34):
us practice against.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Him a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, And so that we have the Black and Gold
spring game coming up on Saturday, and so you know
the coach prime last year, Dave was trying to get
something going with Syracuse. Remember he was trying today in
CBA shut it down. What do you think about the
idea of seeing you and CSU doing some kind of
spring practice screen spring scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I think it'd be great. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I think you know, you you want to get as
much work as you can, and when you come back
from the summer, you know they'll start, well will they
start probably first of August. Then you're in kind of
a to me, you're in kind of a gray area
because you got to you still got to go at
(31:16):
it a little bit, but you're close enough to the
opener that if you get somebody nicked, chances are they
might not be ready to play.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Hope nobody gets nicked in these scrimmages, we'll CSU and
see you. But if you do, unless it's you know,
a really really serious injury, they've got some time where
they can rehab and get better. So yeah, I like it.
I think fans would like it. I think it'd be
I think it'd be a hit. I mean, to me,
see you and see if you should play every single year,
But that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I think this is the next best thing.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I guess my issue with this, and I really don't
have much issue at all, is this when is the
transferport open? And I think that's kind of the issue
that they had before when he mentioned this a couple
of years ago, is that right after spring ball there
was a transfer people to go into the transferportal again.
So you can't have a scrimmage like this because people
(32:08):
will call it scouting, you know what I mean. Ah,
And then especially don't let you have a scrimmage like
this and then a couple of players go to the
other team. That's going to be an issue. And so
you have to be able to figure that part out.
If you were able to close that transfer portal until
you know that was they would have to leave by
a certain time in spring ball and then they're kind
(32:29):
of there. Then you could probably see some teams run
with this idea, but I don't think you really see
it for as long as the transferportals open after spring ball,
because everyone's just going to claim you're recruiting my players
while they're still here. And so that wouldn't make sense,
but the whole idea makes a ton of sense. I
love that idea. It's just like the NFL, you know,
(32:50):
when we do the joint.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Practices, right, that's what it feels like. The whole point of.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
It is to get work against people you don't see
every day, and a lot of people are I guess
you might not realize this, but you learn your teammates,
you learn what they do well, you learn what they
can't do well, and so you specifically work on that
to beat your teammates. But then when you're playing a
guy you don't really know, you got to go out
there and just play football. And that's I think one
(33:17):
of the best evaluators you can have is when you're
just playing somebody that you don't see all the time,
and especially if you're talking about a spring game.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You're not gonna watch filming these.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
People either, So you're just going off there just playing
the game. And it's kind of how we do in
the joint practices. You don't watch filming these guys before
you do a joint practice. Go out there, you just
play and you let whatever happens happens. Now, also a
big thing that also happens in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Fights.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Fights are definitely way more prone to pop off when
you're playing an opposing team because pride now gets involved.
You don't want to get embarrassed when somebody might moss
you go on top, go up top and don't go
on you and grabbed the ball and look down on you.
Now now it's a fight. Oh, you tried to embarrass me.
And so that that like in the NFL, they have ways,
(34:08):
like coaches have ways they punish that. Like I know
Kevin Sirfanski what he would do for joint practices. It
would be if you weren't supposed to play in the
game and you get in a fight and practice, you're
going to now play in the game. And if you
were supposed to play in the game and you're get
in the fight, you won't play. And so and that's
just one way to you know, one way to do it.
(34:29):
But you've got to find a way to actually get
the work in. And we're now in this day and
age of social media where the social media is from
each team is trying to embarrass somebody trying to do this,
and so it's so much ugliness that could come from
these scrimmages, but also has so much good work that
could come too completely agree.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
By the way, there was a video circulating from a
practice earlier this week for SeeU or Julian Lewis had
to tackle somebody. The quarterback of you had to tackle
somebody that was in the midst of a fight, like
he wasn't actively in the fight, but then a fight
broke out and then he tackled the dude to the
ground to stop it. And the quote here is Coach
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Prime's program continues to have fights daily throughout the spring.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And I'm like, you guys are just it feels like,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I happen to know this particular fight you're talking about.
You know what they were fighting about chocolate and vanilla.
You think Julia loses a chocolate Julia was trying to
chocolate like It's like, man, it's vanilla all the way.
And then it just got nasty.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh boy, especially the trenches there, I can imagine. All right,
Welcome back, Jack Corgan joins us
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Kingdom of Fraud
It’s the unlikeliest of criminal partnerships: a devout polygamist from an insular Utah sect joining forces with a shadowy Armenian tycoon from LA. The result - a billion dollar fraud conspiracy. In Kingdom of Fraud, investigative reporter Michele McPhee traces the origins of the extraordinary alliance between Jacob Kingston and Levon Termendzhyan. Together, the two men trigger the largest tax investigation in American history and weave around themselves a web of dirty cops, influential political relationships and transnational money laundering. All this is set against the backdrop of Jacob Kingston’s clan – The Order. A powerful and secretive polygamist organization in Salt Lake City. To whom Jacob is desperate to prove his worth. Kingdom of Fraud is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of Kingdom of Fraud completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today!