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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just truly remarkable as uh yesterday at the Rockies game
as they finished off sweeping the Astros for wins in
a row. There of course, in San Diego tonight, I
don't know if we're going to see a similar situation
with a bunch of Rockies fans guys taking their shirts
off and swinging around screaming one of us. But maybe
our next guest can tell us more about that as
we head out to the Kailee Common Spirit Health Outline
(00:21):
and bring on a voice the Rockies, Jack Corrigan. Jack,
you're on with Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards to Shelby Harris,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Good to catch up with you. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am good, thank you? And we were told by
Rockies personnel that that was the Ryan Edwards fan club.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't know if that was or not.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
But yeah, you know what that now it makes a
lot of sense to me, Jack swing shirts.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Because they said one of us would changed your tire.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah that's right, Yeah it was flail shirts. Then I
could get it.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
But as side, hey, Jack's talking about that that topic,
when did you first sort of recognize that that group
sitting in the right field stands and is this something
as best you know that is going to be sort
of a constant a course field as the season goes on.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean it was sort of one of those phenomenon, Dave,
that just sprang up. It surprised us, of course. The
only other well, we've had two other day games, but
I don't think on Easter Sunday there'd be a bunch
of guys going shirtless in the stands or Opening Day
we might not have noticed them. And it was a
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little chilly on opening days, so it'll be interesting to see. Hey,
you know they had the bleacher bums and Wrigley. We'll
have the Ryan Edwards fan club in right field and
we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Hey, jach Shall be here here. Just the Rockies are
hot right now? You know this is this is a
feel good story. How how is everybody feeling about this?
Is it optimistic? Is it just waiting for the inevitable
to happen?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Or what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
A Yeah, you know, Shelby and I always love talking
with you and Dave. You know, with that experience of
being in a professional locker room for a lot of years,
and I don't think it's phony by any sense of
the word. I think these guys have put the pass
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behind them and they are just thinking about this year
and they are energized by their manager. They're energized by
the philosophy that they seem to be adapting on both
sides of the ball. Do they have enough talent? I mean,
we're going to find that out as the year goes on.
That's what the long baseball season does. But there's a
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great deal of confidence in that clubhouse, and as we
all know, that can be a huge force moving somebody forward.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let's impressed you the most, especially in the midst of
this four game streak.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is it the timely hitting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was very impressed with the nine walks they drew
yesterday in that win over the Astros. Is it some
of the pitching? Of course, the bullpen's been really really good.
What's impressed you the most?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
From an offensive side, certainly the contributions to some of
the new guys.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Rumfield, even though he's a rookie, he did have all
those plate appearances for the last two years in Triple A.
He would have been in the big leagues last year
if he was in a different organization. I like how
he has gone about his business early on. There's no
doubt this team and they're still doing too much of it.
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There's no doubt this team struck out way too often
last year. And nothing kills a rally than the inability
to at least move guys who are on base with
a good out. Strikeouts never do anything positive for an offense.
So I think the approach is better. I like the
aggressiveness on the basis from a pitching perspective. I just
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think guys like the collaborative nature of the process, if
you will, I mean, they feel like they have some
ownership and what they want to do and have a
coaching staff that is more than willing to define the
elements that will make them better. And that's the kind
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of response we've seen so far.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
You know, Jack had we had Walker montfort on with
us before the home opener, and he talked about, well,
he talked about a lot of things, but he talked
about sort of the plan in the offseason, and he
specifically talked about the hitting and putting guys on base
and as you said, being more aggressive, trying to create
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opportunities to score runs. But I want to ask you,
in terms of the starting pitching with the exception of Freeland.
I mean there's some there's some new faces there, and
I want to I want to ask, do you think
think what two or three qualities were the Rockies front
office people looking for in terms of the veterans that
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they brought on the staff.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And I mean other than a we've got.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Guys that are willing to come here to Denver and
accept the challenge of pitching a course field.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I mean that obviously, when you're talking about acquiring
veteran pitching help, there has to be some either because
of their circumstances or their interests, like a Michael Lorenzen
who is intrigued about the idea of trying to solid
corpse field.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And we've seen.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
In Michael's first two starts both, you know, the difficult
opening day when he gives up nine runs in three
innings and then the way he pitched yesterday against a
hot Houston lineup where he kept them in control. And
I think all three guys won't saw a team ton
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of once. But Jose is going to be back soon
after the hamstring issue. I think all three guys, first
of all, are strike throwers, and secondly, because of their
experience Hexagana was one of the better pitchers for a
lot of years in Japan, So they have an understanding,
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a more veteran approach on how to keep the Rockies
and ballgames. And when you had a starting rotation last year,
for example, guys that gave up more first inning runs
than any other team in baseball, that makes it hard
on a game in and game out basis for your
offense to feel like they can have success. So those
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guys with a track record of keeping their teams in games,
I think was the approach that Pauldy, Bodesta and Josh
Burns had in acquiring that trio of veterans to go
along with Freelan and Feltner.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, the point that you were making there and sort
of to drive it home a little bit, and something
Walker Momford talked to us about is that we don't
to throw strikes, like simply put. And it's a fascinating
point because you'd say, well, shouldn't pitchers always want to
throw strikes? But that's just I guess not Historically what
this pitching staff has been asked to do is that
what I have an understanding here.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I think I mean, yes, you want to throw strikes.
You want to get ahead. I mean, how many times
have we seen a lead off walk lead to a
big inning for a team. I think the point is
you want to put yourself as a pitcher in position
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where the hitter is a little bit more around the
defensive whether. I mean, you can look at the stats
and guys, you know, when it's an O two count
in baseball, including all the good hitters, I mean, the
cumulative batting average is down around a buck and a half,
you know, So the idea of get ahead is a
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good thing. Less traffic and the bases, it still means
you've got to throw quality strikes. I mean, you're not
throwing it right down the middle of the play, you're
and Chase Snowlander is a good example of that. Last
year he threw strikes, they just weren't very good strikes.
This year a much better game plan in terms of
how to use his pitches effectively.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Hey, my last question here is pretty much what this
newfound success that the Rockies have had, does that change
to the expectations that they have for the season. Obviously,
we when we talked to Walker Montfort, it was well,
but like, let's just play and see we're already got
We already have six wins. And I know it's a
long season, we already have six wins and that's a way,
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you know, way quicker time to get there than it
what took last year. So what I guess all the
expectations now this team, since they've already blown expectations of
last year out the water. So now what what is
what is his team about this year?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, the good thing, you know, baseball from a historical perspective, Shelby,
that's held through pretty much for the one hundred and
twenty five plus years in Major League Baseball. See where
a team is at the quarter pole, to use a
horse racing term, be forty games in, you know, and
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now you've started to see a little bit of a rhythm,
a consistency or an inconsistency. That's probably going to be
your challenge for the rest of the year. And I
mean referencing last year wasn't quite the quarter pole, but
I mean they were five and twenty five. I mean
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they knew they were already sunk. This year, I think
it's hey, we like what we're doing. We're going to
keep grinding a way and if hey come June we're
still in that five hundred range. Well, okay, let's see
where we can go. If not, you're still learning and
building from the struggles over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
All right, My last one here is Jimmy Hergy going
tonight is starting. It's expected to be a bullpen kind
of game. What does that mean to you? I mean especially,
I mean we saw that, I guess the second game
of the Philly series. So is it kind of like
that as they're taking on Randy Basquez and the Padres.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, I mean you're you're without Keen Tana, So how
are you going to handle it? Are you going to
throw Sensitela or Dolander in there for a spot start,
or are you going to go with the opener approach?
Based on their lineups? They went with Bernardino against the Phillies,
get seized the lefty out there, and you had Schwarber
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and Harper at the top of the lineup tonight, all
those good right handed hitters for San Diego. So you're
going to put You're gonna put Jimmy in, who has
been as consistent as any of the Rockies relievers both
seasons that he's been in Purple you know last year
and so far this year, and you've keep a Chase
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Nowlander in that same routine he's in now. He'll ge
get the bulk of the innings tonight, and if he
pitches like he did against the Phillies, then it helps
keep the Rockies in the game. And you're still not
putting the pressure on him and say, hey, you're back
in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You gotta do this.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I think they're letting him grow both physically and mentally
by being in that role, and right now, through a
couple of efforts, it looks like a good plan.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Certainly does.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Jack always appreciate the time, my friend looking forward to
the call tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Let's keep this thing going. We appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Thank you, my pleasure anytime.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Guys, talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Josh are right boys, the Rockies, Jack Horgan, it's so
funny and trying to be like yeahs the Ryan Edwards
fan club up there with.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Their shirt the money it's perfect, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Did you see you up there?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I don't think I'm shirt off for a bunch
of rads.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Did you do it?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
If the Rockies, well, if it missed spectacular season, if it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Meant they were going to win.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Then yes, if if you guarantee me it would it
would keep the winning streak going.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Then yes, I have the next home game then okay,
I'm going to guarantee you win.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Okay, so I'll go up there with the group, take
my shirt off.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yes, yep, camera social media, no no, no.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
There get the sixth pack.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Going change a tire too, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Somebody asked that of the text, like how did you
tear clothes?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
That's not important, he said, He said, behind the steering
wheel and took a little pair of scissors and ripped
a patch off of the knee.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You you're you're you're going to war? I mean no,
I'm just kidding. Is you're trying to change a tire.
It's important.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She's already married you the first, the first struggle.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The spark.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You know, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Somebody said I did a Tim Allen grunt when I
walked in the house. Can neither confirm nor deny. Good
stuff there from Jack and you know, to the bullpen.
The bullpen has actually been one of the more impressive
things here too. And I did like what he was
talking about the very end, about the plan for guys.
And I'm not saying it's been this way, but there
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are times in recent history with the Rockies it it
kind of felt a little haphazard, you know, the way
they use guys, the way they would.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The plan for them, the way they were utilized.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, even the specific thing where he's saying, hey,
you had a couple of righties, a couple of left
handed hitters for the Phillies to the top of their
their their lineup with Schwarber and with Turner, So we're
gonna go with the lefty tonight, and then hey, tonight
you have to you have some righties.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So we're gonna go with our rity. We're not gonna
do the same thing where we're going.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We're gonna keep it consistent in what their roles are
going to be. We're gonna do a little bit matchup based.
I just I like that there seems to be a
little bit more defined plan for these players.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I think anytime you lose to the level of the
Rockies have lost the last handful of years, then you're
open to second guessing. You're gonna have people's second guests.
You on everything right. When you think of think of
the Broncos, and the kind of year they had. They
were fourteen and three, beat Buffalo fifteen and three, got
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to the AFC Championship game. There because they won fifteen
games and they were in the midst of a lengthy
winning streak, there's less opportunity for people like us in
the media to second guess Sean about anything. And he responded,
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if he thought something he didn't want to get into,
he'd just cut you off. And he can do that
because they were fourteen to three, they won the AFC West,
They're a number one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Seed in the AFC.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So I think conversely with the Rockies, they've been so
bad that their second guest on virtually everything. So I
like the idea that maybe this year they're willing to
sort of mix and match and do maybe a couple
of unconventional things by by baseball standards, old school baseball.
(15:12):
So yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm thrilled with the
way that they've competed. Their pitchers have been good. You know,
they had the bad outing and the home opener, but
other than that, I mean, especially at Corsefield, the staff,
both the starters and the bullpen have been pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
For pitching here, in Denver.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I just want to see some guys, not just guys.
I want to see fans start showing up again. I
know early, Oh they will, I know, And that's the thing.
I just want to I just want to see it
because obviously you heard all the stories about attendance being
low other than an opening day, and you know obviously
that's because you get them thinking of, oh, this is
the normal, same old Rockies, you know what I mean.
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After you have a couple of years like that, it's
hard to make people want to come out for you.
But I just can't wait to see. You know, I
predicted about seventy eighty wins and then you know, you
guys called me crazy about that. But if they can
get that, then I think you'll see downtown Denver around
Ballpark lively and I and I can't wait to see it.
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And we've been waiting on that for a long time.
And I think the fans, the fans of his team,
deserve it, and so it's exciting. It's encouraging to see
them start off, but we got one hundred and fifty
games more.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I get it, and I got a little over my
skis yesterday. They've had to put the brakes on me
a little bit because I was like, you know, they're
second in the division. They're only three games off of
the Rodgers side.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Now I know, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So today and I probably doing this to myself, but
I'm looking at MLB power rankings like.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Historically over the last few years, I have no.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Reason whatsoever to look at them because the Rocky is
gonna be thirtieth, right, But now got some optimism thinking
about the Rocky second in the division. They're sick since six,
they've got better records than a lot of baseball teams.
Guess where they're at. And the most the two most
recent MLB Power.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Rankings probably probably.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Twelve thirtieth, right, they're still thirtieth.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
They well, don't look at them.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
And that's just the bias of how bad they've been.
That's right in the past. And and that's kind of
what the problem is with these power rankings is they're
supposed to be from year to year. You kind of
have to eliminate the bias from years past. But we
all know that that doesn't happen. And so a team
at six and six saying that that the thirtieth, it's
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not the worst team in baseball.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It's the worst teams.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Baseball.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It's like, and they've beaten and the people they've beaten.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They've been the ceremonial like thirtieth place team for the
last three plus years. But the thing about it is
is like right now, as you said, you would hope
that they would eliminate of what was the past. We
are what we are now. But a lot of the
write ups, this was ESPN and the Athletic the ones
I was looking at the rite ups were it's early
in the season, like we're gonna see I don't think
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this is a good team, but hey, good for them.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
They got to move.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Them up and then move them back down.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's what it feels like, you know what I mean,
Like you don't have.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
To just keep them at thirty because you're waited you
think the inevitable is going to happen, you know what
I mean? Like you have to go off of the tape,
and the tape shows that Rockets are six and six,
and it's like a Cubs team that's least. There's a
lot of other teams that are less than that that
at this time should be ranked lower than a.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Rocket Who're gonna be taking on the Padres. Cover starts
at seven o'clock, first pitch at seven forty. You know,
I was thinking about the concept of regression today when
it comes to specifically like the Broncos or just NFL teams.
And yeah, the Broncos last year, as you mentioned earlier, Dave,
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I mean they have fourteen fourteen and three in the
regular season, fifteen wins overall. Maybe some people think they're
sort of prime for a bit of a regression. I
think overall record could ultimately be something along those lines.
But how does a team be one thing next year
and maybe stave off some of that aggression regression. I
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think about Washington from a couple of years ago, went
to the NFC Championship game. In the very next year,
they were out of the playoffs altogether.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean, injuries have a large say in terms
of sort of how the season goes depending on who
gets hurt. But most teams cannot afford to lose two
or three, three or four key guys. Washington lost Jaden
Daniels quarterback, and I don't know that the supporting cast
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in Washington, even after they won the West and wound
up playing in the NFC championship game was as good
as what they have here in Denver. That would be
the first thing. But I think, you know, the schedule
is going to be tougher.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, I think the.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's not going to be just smooth sailing in twenty
twenty six. It just never is in the NFL. You're
going to have, you know, you're going to have some
games you play really well. Maybe down the stretch you
do something extraordinary, you pull a game out the next week,
maybe maybe you don't.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
It's gonna the season.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Is a marathon and you have to find ways to
just simply survive. And I mean, I think this is
a really good football team that is capable capable of
going right back to where they were last year and
maybe even a step further. But it will not be
smooth sailing in twenty twenty six, only because I've just
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seen too many years in the NFL with too many
good teams and crazy things happen. You just have to
be able to withstand it, to weather it, and then
to get back on track.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Well being you know a part of this kind of
because I just look back at my time in Cleveland
in twenty twenty three, one eleven and six. Next year
we went three and fourteen. You know, so you're going
from the playoffs and you pretty much bring back almost
the same team and you start falling apart. And that
sometimes to be the problem is because the idea that
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you're just going to get back there regardless, you know
what I mean, like, regardless of you know, we have
the same guys, we have the talent from last year.
We're just going to go back and you know, recreate
what we did last year.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
About team mentality, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Sometimes it's some team mentality about like in Cleveland that year,
we're like, all right, we have the best defense in
the league. And so in twenty twenty four we brought
back on the same guys. We're like, we're going to
have the best defensive the league. And I don't think
necessarily we all put the work in to be the
best defensive league. And I think what I'm what more
that is saying is it's a year to year league.
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It's a year to year league. You got to bring
it every year. And I think the biggest example that
of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have found ways to reinvent
themselves every year, even on years when people say they're
not going to be very good, and so it's all
about just trying to find new ways to reinvent yourself,
even if you do bring back some of the same people,
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but everybody else is changing. There's new coaches everywhere, there's
new players and different teams, and so that one score
game from the year before, it can end up being
a fourteen point loss if you don't put the work in.
And I see that happens a lot more than it doesn't.
And so that's why you do see so many teams
be good one year, fall off the next and vice versa,
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because everyone knows what a bad team looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So is that leadership? Is that coaching? Like where does
that come from the market?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I would say it's partly a little bit of leadership,
But honestly, I just think that's kind of how the
new age athlete thinks, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
we has a sense I'm sure day deals with if
people go to Cherry Creek and automatically think they're going
to be good, but you don't realize the work you
have to put in to be good, Like that is
that work in the offseason, the summer runs all that
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that is what makes you great during the year. If
you're trying to get to the season and already, oh,
let me catch up, you're never going to be able
to and so that work has to be put in
in order to be successful.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yeah. Again, I think one of the pluses for bringing
back as many guys as they did, like they brought
back more than any other team in the NFL. Re
signed brought guys back ninety three percent, I think, or thereabouts.
One of the advantages when you do that and he
had the kind of season he had last year, is
those guys know what that felt like. So they know
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how they worked last season. They'll be reminded. I'm sure
by the coaching staff. You know, they know how they grinded.
I wouldn't think this was a This seems like I'm
mature team to me, So I don't know that you
have to get their attention too many times in training camp.
Maybe they'll be an off day in terms of practice.
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You stop the practice, remind guys, hey, listen, this doesn't
happen just because we show up.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
This isn't last year. This is a new year.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
But I don't think these guys, these guys seem to be.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
A pretty mature team in that regard.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
So yeah, I think by bringing guys back that went
through it and knows how it felt and wants some
more of it, then I think the natural progression is
to think, you know, we can.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We can.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
You might not have exactly the same record, but the
point of it is to be healthy and to have
a home game, home field advantage if possible, and then
you take your shot in the playoffs, and this team's capable.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
There was a stat out a couple of days ago
that I thought was is offensive snaps with the lead
last season, So the Patriots were the number one team
in the NFL with them the amount of offensive snaps
with the lead in games five and seventy.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Eight, Broncos is going to be way down the list, pretty.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Far down the list. So five seventy eights to number one.
Here Jets, by comparison were the worst, what sixty six.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
So Broncos probably two seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Higher hired that are do you want to take a
guest day or you just want to sell the Patriots.
Patriots were five seventy eight, I would say the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
There there were.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
You know, the Raiders game, so they had there were
games that they had.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I'm going to say three ninety, you're close four to
thirteen thirteen?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, so, But but.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I was so, which which which?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Not that it really matters for anybody other than us,
but which which one? I can tell you which one
I'd rather have? Broncos would Yeah, me too, so would I.
Here here's what I would worry about if I'm Mike Vrabel.
He's got a good team. They went to the Super Bowl,
got a young quarterback. I think it's going to be
a really good player at as. They'll add some pieces
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here soon, I think, no pun intended. But but that
team didn't have to come from behind in the season
too many times. They didn't have They didn't have the
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clutch gene. Because they didn't, it wasn't required. And I
think most seasons in the NFL, the clutch gene is required,
even for really good teams. Maybe not as many as
the Broncos had last year, but most teams, even really
good teams, four games, you're going to have to say, Okay,
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we're down six in the fourth with five minutes to go,
and we're on the minus seventeen. We got to put
together an eighty three year touchdown dract. I mean, you've
got to have the ability to win games like that.
The Broncos clearly have it, and they're bringing everybody.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Back, so I'm not I'd rather be them.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
The New England, and especially since the Broncos trenches are entrenched,
you know what I mean, they have guys you like that. No,
so they have guys on the O line and D line,
and it's other than JFM. That's really the only starter
that's getting switched out now. The Patriots. The O line
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was a struggle at the end of the year, so
they're going to have to figure out different ways. And
so I'm that right there, just O line in the
trench play. You got to put Denver ahead of a
lot of teams because they literally are bringing back all
five offensive linemen, they're bringing back most of the defensive
lineman other than obviously JFM was a huge contributor. But
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you still have some guys there. So there isn't a
really good spot right now, a very good spot, which
I still to this day I can't believe it because
of how bad they were supposed to be a couple
of years ago, everyone kept talking about the dead money
from Russe Wilson and so they did it all before that,
and they're in a great spot now and then now
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they can be considered that one of the best rosters
of NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Then I thought the same thing when I saw four
thirteen versus five seventys, Like you're talking about over one
hundred and sixty different snaps. There, same record fourteen and three,
but one hundred and sixty different snaps. And it's not
to say that the Patriots had everything easy. They did
have the easiest strength of schedule as we know, but
they won't this year.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But they won't this.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Year, and there becomes this expectation that we just can
do it this way because we are this is who
we are. We have to the Super Bowl, and boy,
we led the league and snaps with the lead, and
that's just teams just have fallen apart around us. The
Broncos didn't have that path, Like I know that they
ended up having a relatively weak strength of schedule, but
they and maybe some of the adversity they created for themselves,
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but the fact is they still overcame it, which is valuable.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Well, let's not forgod, let's not forget that they're a
team that had to deal with injuries on and off,
and they had a big injury at the biggest time
of the year. And so this is a team. If
you're thinking that bow Knicks was really still around, you
could be talking about either a Super Bowl loser or
Super Bowl winner, and that right there put some above everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Broncos Country tonight coming at the top of the hours,
we got Rockies baseball coming up at seven o'clock. Bench
of an all right, sliding into studio high been, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That much?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Nice a song there, Leon Bridges smooth sailing. Hopefully you
have a more smooth sailing tonight for the rock Is
Why are you smiling?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I just can't have a smile on my face and
be happy.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Okay, No, cryptic's smiling is fine. Smiling is my favorite. No,
you're you're smiling?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Is cryptic?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Here?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
There's like a there's like a thing there. No, No,
maybe have a little distressing cryptic.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
The vibe field.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, I I asked the guys earlier, and I'm running
a poll on on my Twitter account.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Its sum huge.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
God walked right into that, sueing the Broncos at pick
a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I could have done the other way with it.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
The more people that you can get, then it's that
it's a worthy pole.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's just a fair It's just an awkward thing for
a man to say to another man.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's all, assuming they stay up a lie.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Go ahead? Sorry, sorry, wow, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry,
I stay tuned. Go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Can I please please continue?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh? Assuming assuming the Broncos stay of pick sixty two,
are you expecting the team to draft the player that
is a major contributor in your one I'm actually proud
of Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Sixty seven percent say no, so.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Because they because they've got a good team. Well, where
where you have? Where are they coming in? And who's
going to be?
Speaker 5 (30:48):
As Shelby said earlier the show, draft anybody you want to.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I mean you can't. You can't say, well, give me
this guy.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Who's the fourth overall draft choice, but draft anybody that's
going to be available in the sixty five ish region
and tell me what position that player would be, and
and tell me he'd come in and start where.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But Broncos Country can be a little unrealistic. I think
a lot of fan bases can be unrealistic.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Sixty five percent said no, I know, so they're being realistic.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Said yes, that's.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Why you don't do math. Leave me the math, right,
we don't have one hundred and five percent poles.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
We don't. Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
I'm here for you, silent your honor.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, what position would you say?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I think tight end would be the one that everybody
you think it.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Tight end in sixty sixty two minute start on Ingram
major contributor.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
So I think there's three positions where you'd get contributions.
Tight end might be one you running back and inside back,
or be the others.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I was gonna say inside backer.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
If Rodriguez is there, you sprint to the podium to
throw that car at the at the commissioner.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah. But then obviously it just depends. Like I said
earlier in the show, you know you don't want to
reach for a running back at that position though, and
so you got to go off of what you think
is worth the value at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
The second kid from Notre Dame will not be there,
will he? Price? First?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Early second?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
The guys I want to Rodriguez in price, and I'm
not sure the one I'm going to be there, but
with
Speaker 6 (32:26):
This draft having the off ball line linebackers that they
do have, you have to go grab one like early
Just truly remarkable as uh yesterday at the Rockies game
as they finished off sweeping the Astros for wins in
a row. There of course, in San Diego tonight, I
don't know if we're going to see a similar situation
with a bunch of Rockies fans guys taking their shirts
off and swinging around screaming one of us. But maybe
our next guest can tell us more about that as
we head out to the Kailee Common Spirit Health Outline
(00:21):
and bring on a voice the Rockies, Jack Corrigan. Jack,
you're on with Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards to Shelby Harris,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Good to catch up with you. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am good, thank you? And we were told by
Rockies personnel that that was the Ryan Edwards fan club.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't know if that was or not.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
But yeah, you know what that now it makes a
lot of sense to me, Jack swing shirts.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Because they said one of us would changed your tire.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah that's right, Yeah it was flail shirts. Then I
could get it.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
But as side, hey, Jack's talking about that that topic,
when did you first sort of recognize that that group
sitting in the right field stands and is this something
as best you know that is going to be sort
of a constant a course field as the season goes on.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean it was sort of one of those phenomenon, Dave,
that just sprang up. It surprised us, of course. The
only other well, we've had two other day games, but
I don't think on Easter Sunday there'd be a bunch
of guys going shirtless in the stands or Opening Day
we might not have noticed them. And it was a
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little chilly on opening days, so it'll be interesting to see. Hey,
you know they had the bleacher bums and Wrigley. We'll
have the Ryan Edwards fan club in right field and
we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Hey, jach Shall be here here. Just the Rockies are
hot right now? You know this is this is a
feel good story. How how is everybody feeling about this?
Is it optimistic? Is it just waiting for the inevitable
to happen?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Or what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
A Yeah, you know, Shelby and I always love talking
with you and Dave. You know, with that experience of
being in a professional locker room for a lot of years,
and I don't think it's phony by any sense of
the word. I think these guys have put the pass
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behind them and they are just thinking about this year
and they are energized by their manager. They're energized by
the philosophy that they seem to be adapting on both
sides of the ball. Do they have enough talent? I mean,
we're going to find that out as the year goes on.
That's what the long baseball season does. But there's a
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great deal of confidence in that clubhouse, and as we
all know, that can be a huge force moving somebody forward.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let's impressed you the most, especially in the midst of
this four game streak.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is it the timely hitting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was very impressed with the nine walks they drew
yesterday in that win over the Astros. Is it some
of the pitching? Of course, the bullpen's been really really good.
What's impressed you the most?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
From an offensive side, certainly the contributions to some of
the new guys.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Rumfield, even though he's a rookie, he did have all
those plate appearances for the last two years in Triple A.
He would have been in the big leagues last year
if he was in a different organization. I like how
he has gone about his business early on. There's no
doubt this team and they're still doing too much of it.
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There's no doubt this team struck out way too often
last year. And nothing kills a rally than the inability
to at least move guys who are on base with
a good out. Strikeouts never do anything positive for an offense.
So I think the approach is better. I like the
aggressiveness on the basis from a pitching perspective. I just
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think guys like the collaborative nature of the process, if
you will, I mean, they feel like they have some
ownership and what they want to do and have a
coaching staff that is more than willing to define the
elements that will make them better. And that's the kind
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of response we've seen so far.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
You know, Jack had we had Walker montfort on with
us before the home opener, and he talked about, well,
he talked about a lot of things, but he talked
about sort of the plan in the offseason, and he
specifically talked about the hitting and putting guys on base
and as you said, being more aggressive, trying to create
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opportunities to score runs. But I want to ask you,
in terms of the starting pitching with the exception of Freeland.
I mean there's some there's some new faces there, and
I want to I want to ask, do you think
think what two or three qualities were the Rockies front
office people looking for in terms of the veterans that
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they brought on the staff.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And I mean other than a we've got.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Guys that are willing to come here to Denver and
accept the challenge of pitching a course field.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I mean that obviously, when you're talking about acquiring
veteran pitching help, there has to be some either because
of their circumstances or their interests, like a Michael Lorenzen
who is intrigued about the idea of trying to solid
corpse field.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And we've seen.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
In Michael's first two starts both, you know, the difficult
opening day when he gives up nine runs in three
innings and then the way he pitched yesterday against a
hot Houston lineup where he kept them in control. And
I think all three guys won't saw a team ton
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of once. But Jose is going to be back soon
after the hamstring issue. I think all three guys, first
of all, are strike throwers, and secondly, because of their
experience Hexagana was one of the better pitchers for a
lot of years in Japan, So they have an understanding,
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a more veteran approach on how to keep the Rockies
and ballgames. And when you had a starting rotation last year,
for example, guys that gave up more first inning runs
than any other team in baseball, that makes it hard
on a game in and game out basis for your
offense to feel like they can have success. So those
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guys with a track record of keeping their teams in games,
I think was the approach that Pauldy, Bodesta and Josh
Burns had in acquiring that trio of veterans to go
along with Freelan and Feltner.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, the point that you were making there and sort
of to drive it home a little bit, and something
Walker Momford talked to us about is that we don't
to throw strikes, like simply put. And it's a fascinating
point because you'd say, well, shouldn't pitchers always want to
throw strikes? But that's just I guess not Historically what
this pitching staff has been asked to do is that
what I have an understanding here.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I think I mean, yes, you want to throw strikes.
You want to get ahead. I mean, how many times
have we seen a lead off walk lead to a
big inning for a team. I think the point is
you want to put yourself as a pitcher in position
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where the hitter is a little bit more around the
defensive whether. I mean, you can look at the stats
and guys, you know, when it's an O two count
in baseball, including all the good hitters, I mean, the
cumulative batting average is down around a buck and a half,
you know, So the idea of get ahead is a
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good thing. Less traffic and the bases, it still means
you've got to throw quality strikes. I mean, you're not
throwing it right down the middle of the play, you're
and Chase Snowlander is a good example of that. Last
year he threw strikes, they just weren't very good strikes.
This year a much better game plan in terms of
how to use his pitches effectively.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Hey, my last question here is pretty much what this
newfound success that the Rockies have had, does that change
to the expectations that they have for the season. Obviously,
we when we talked to Walker Montfort, it was well,
but like, let's just play and see we're already got
We already have six wins. And I know it's a
long season, we already have six wins and that's a way,
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you know, way quicker time to get there than it
what took last year. So what I guess all the
expectations now this team, since they've already blown expectations of
last year out the water. So now what what is
what is his team about this year?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, the good thing, you know, baseball from a historical perspective, Shelby,
that's held through pretty much for the one hundred and
twenty five plus years in Major League Baseball. See where
a team is at the quarter pole, to use a
horse racing term, be forty games in, you know, and
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now you've started to see a little bit of a rhythm,
a consistency or an inconsistency. That's probably going to be
your challenge for the rest of the year. And I
mean referencing last year wasn't quite the quarter pole, but
I mean they were five and twenty five. I mean
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they knew they were already sunk. This year, I think
it's hey, we like what we're doing. We're going to
keep grinding a way and if hey come June we're
still in that five hundred range. Well, okay, let's see
where we can go. If not, you're still learning and
building from the struggles over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
All right, My last one here is Jimmy Hergy going
tonight is starting. It's expected to be a bullpen kind
of game. What does that mean to you? I mean especially,
I mean we saw that, I guess the second game
of the Philly series. So is it kind of like
that as they're taking on Randy Basquez and the Padres.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, I mean you're you're without Keen Tana, So how
are you going to handle it? Are you going to
throw Sensitela or Dolander in there for a spot start,
or are you going to go with the opener approach?
Based on their lineups? They went with Bernardino against the Phillies,
get seized the lefty out there, and you had Schwarber
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and Harper at the top of the lineup tonight, all
those good right handed hitters for San Diego. So you're
going to put You're gonna put Jimmy in, who has
been as consistent as any of the Rockies relievers both
seasons that he's been in Purple you know last year
and so far this year, and you've keep a Chase
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Nowlander in that same routine he's in now. He'll ge
get the bulk of the innings tonight, and if he
pitches like he did against the Phillies, then it helps
keep the Rockies in the game. And you're still not
putting the pressure on him and say, hey, you're back
in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You gotta do this.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I think they're letting him grow both physically and mentally
by being in that role, and right now, through a
couple of efforts, it looks like a good plan.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Certainly does.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Jack always appreciate the time, my friend looking forward to
the call tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Let's keep this thing going. We appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Thank you, my pleasure anytime.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Guys, talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Josh are right boys, the Rockies, Jack Horgan, it's so
funny and trying to be like yeahs the Ryan Edwards
fan club up there with.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Their shirt the money it's perfect, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Did you see you up there?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I don't think I'm shirt off for a bunch
of rads.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Did you do it?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
If the Rockies, well, if it missed spectacular season, if it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Meant they were going to win.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Then yes, if if you guarantee me it would it
would keep the winning streak going.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Then yes, I have the next home game then okay,
I'm going to guarantee you win.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Okay, so I'll go up there with the group, take
my shirt off.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yes, yep, camera social media, no no, no.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
There get the sixth pack.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Going change a tire too, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Somebody asked that of the text, like how did you
tear clothes?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
That's not important, he said, He said, behind the steering
wheel and took a little pair of scissors and ripped
a patch off of the knee.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You you're you're you're going to war? I mean no,
I'm just kidding. Is you're trying to change a tire.
It's important.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She's already married you the first, the first struggle.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The spark.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You know, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Somebody said I did a Tim Allen grunt when I
walked in the house. Can neither confirm nor deny. Good
stuff there from Jack and you know, to the bullpen.
The bullpen has actually been one of the more impressive
things here too. And I did like what he was
talking about the very end, about the plan for guys.
And I'm not saying it's been this way, but there
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are times in recent history with the Rockies it it
kind of felt a little haphazard, you know, the way
they use guys, the way they would.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The plan for them, the way they were utilized.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, even the specific thing where he's saying, hey,
you had a couple of righties, a couple of left
handed hitters for the Phillies to the top of their
their their lineup with Schwarber and with Turner, So we're
gonna go with the lefty tonight, and then hey, tonight
you have to you have some righties.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So we're gonna go with our rity. We're not gonna
do the same thing where we're going.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We're gonna keep it consistent in what their roles are
going to be. We're gonna do a little bit matchup based.
I just I like that there seems to be a
little bit more defined plan for these players.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I think anytime you lose to the level of the
Rockies have lost the last handful of years, then you're
open to second guessing. You're gonna have people's second guests.
You on everything right. When you think of think of
the Broncos, and the kind of year they had. They
were fourteen and three, beat Buffalo fifteen and three, got
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to the AFC Championship game. There because they won fifteen
games and they were in the midst of a lengthy
winning streak, there's less opportunity for people like us in
the media to second guess Sean about anything. And he responded,
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if he thought something he didn't want to get into,
he'd just cut you off. And he can do that
because they were fourteen to three, they won the AFC West,
They're a number one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Seed in the AFC.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So I think conversely with the Rockies, they've been so
bad that their second guest on virtually everything. So I
like the idea that maybe this year they're willing to
sort of mix and match and do maybe a couple
of unconventional things by by baseball standards, old school baseball.
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So yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm thrilled with the
way that they've competed. Their pitchers have been good. You know,
they had the bad outing and the home opener, but
other than that, I mean, especially at Corsefield, the staff,
both the starters and the bullpen have been pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
For pitching here, in Denver.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I just want to see some guys, not just guys.
I want to see fans start showing up again. I
know early, Oh they will, I know, And that's the thing.
I just want to I just want to see it
because obviously you heard all the stories about attendance being
low other than an opening day, and you know obviously
that's because you get them thinking of, oh, this is
the normal, same old Rockies, you know what I mean.
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After you have a couple of years like that, it's
hard to make people want to come out for you.
But I just can't wait to see. You know, I
predicted about seventy eighty wins and then you know, you
guys called me crazy about that. But if they can
get that, then I think you'll see downtown Denver around
Ballpark lively and I and I can't wait to see it.
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And we've been waiting on that for a long time.
And I think the fans, the fans of his team,
deserve it, and so it's exciting. It's encouraging to see
them start off, but we got one hundred and fifty
games more.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I get it, and I got a little over my
skis yesterday. They've had to put the brakes on me
a little bit because I was like, you know, they're
second in the division. They're only three games off of
the Rodgers side.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Now I know, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So today and I probably doing this to myself, but
I'm looking at MLB power rankings like.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Historically over the last few years, I have no.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Reason whatsoever to look at them because the Rocky is
gonna be thirtieth, right, But now got some optimism thinking
about the Rocky second in the division. They're sick since six,
they've got better records than a lot of baseball teams.
Guess where they're at. And the most the two most
recent MLB Power.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Rankings probably probably.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Twelve thirtieth, right, they're still thirtieth.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
They well, don't look at them.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
And that's just the bias of how bad they've been.
That's right in the past. And and that's kind of
what the problem is with these power rankings is they're
supposed to be from year to year. You kind of
have to eliminate the bias from years past. But we
all know that that doesn't happen. And so a team
at six and six saying that that the thirtieth, it's
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not the worst team in baseball.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It's the worst teams.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Baseball.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It's like, and they've beaten and the people they've beaten.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They've been the ceremonial like thirtieth place team for the
last three plus years. But the thing about it is
is like right now, as you said, you would hope
that they would eliminate of what was the past. We
are what we are now. But a lot of the
write ups, this was ESPN and the Athletic the ones
I was looking at the rite ups were it's early
in the season, like we're gonna see I don't think
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this is a good team, but hey, good for them.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
They got to move.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Them up and then move them back down.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's what it feels like, you know what I mean,
Like you don't have.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
To just keep them at thirty because you're waited you
think the inevitable is going to happen, you know what
I mean? Like you have to go off of the tape,
and the tape shows that Rockets are six and six,
and it's like a Cubs team that's least. There's a
lot of other teams that are less than that that
at this time should be ranked lower than a.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Rocket Who're gonna be taking on the Padres. Cover starts
at seven o'clock, first pitch at seven forty. You know,
I was thinking about the concept of regression today when
it comes to specifically like the Broncos or just NFL teams.
And yeah, the Broncos last year, as you mentioned earlier, Dave,
(18:54):
I mean they have fourteen fourteen and three in the
regular season, fifteen wins overall. Maybe some people think they're
sort of prime for a bit of a regression. I
think overall record could ultimately be something along those lines.
But how does a team be one thing next year
and maybe stave off some of that aggression regression. I
(19:14):
think about Washington from a couple of years ago, went
to the NFC Championship game. In the very next year,
they were out of the playoffs altogether.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean, injuries have a large say in terms
of sort of how the season goes depending on who
gets hurt. But most teams cannot afford to lose two
or three, three or four key guys. Washington lost Jaden
Daniels quarterback, and I don't know that the supporting cast
(19:43):
in Washington, even after they won the West and wound
up playing in the NFC championship game was as good
as what they have here in Denver. That would be
the first thing. But I think, you know, the schedule
is going to be tougher.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, I think the.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's not going to be just smooth sailing in twenty
twenty six. It just never is in the NFL. You're
going to have, you know, you're going to have some
games you play really well. Maybe down the stretch you
do something extraordinary, you pull a game out the next week,
maybe maybe you don't.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
It's gonna the season.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Is a marathon and you have to find ways to
just simply survive. And I mean, I think this is
a really good football team that is capable capable of
going right back to where they were last year and
maybe even a step further. But it will not be
smooth sailing in twenty twenty six, only because I've just
(20:40):
seen too many years in the NFL with too many
good teams and crazy things happen. You just have to
be able to withstand it, to weather it, and then
to get back on track.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Well being you know a part of this kind of
because I just look back at my time in Cleveland
in twenty twenty three, one eleven and six. Next year
we went three and fourteen. You know, so you're going
from the playoffs and you pretty much bring back almost
the same team and you start falling apart. And that
sometimes to be the problem is because the idea that
(21:12):
you're just going to get back there regardless, you know
what I mean, like, regardless of you know, we have
the same guys, we have the talent from last year.
We're just going to go back and you know, recreate
what we did last year.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
About team mentality, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Sometimes it's some team mentality about like in Cleveland that year,
we're like, all right, we have the best defense in
the league. And so in twenty twenty four we brought
back on the same guys. We're like, we're going to
have the best defensive the league. And I don't think
necessarily we all put the work in to be the
best defensive league. And I think what I'm what more
that is saying is it's a year to year league.
(21:48):
It's a year to year league. You got to bring
it every year. And I think the biggest example that
of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have found ways to reinvent
themselves every year, even on years when people say they're
not going to be very good, and so it's all
about just trying to find new ways to reinvent yourself,
even if you do bring back some of the same people,
(22:08):
but everybody else is changing. There's new coaches everywhere, there's
new players and different teams, and so that one score
game from the year before, it can end up being
a fourteen point loss if you don't put the work in.
And I see that happens a lot more than it doesn't.
And so that's why you do see so many teams
be good one year, fall off the next and vice versa,
(22:28):
because everyone knows what a bad team looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So is that leadership? Is that coaching? Like where does
that come from the market?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I would say it's partly a little bit of leadership,
But honestly, I just think that's kind of how the
new age athlete thinks, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
we has a sense I'm sure day deals with if
people go to Cherry Creek and automatically think they're going
to be good, but you don't realize the work you
have to put in to be good, Like that is
that work in the offseason, the summer runs all that
(22:57):
that is what makes you great during the year. If
you're trying to get to the season and already, oh,
let me catch up, you're never going to be able
to and so that work has to be put in
in order to be successful.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yeah. Again, I think one of the pluses for bringing
back as many guys as they did, like they brought
back more than any other team in the NFL. Re
signed brought guys back ninety three percent, I think, or thereabouts.
One of the advantages when you do that and he
had the kind of season he had last year, is
those guys know what that felt like. So they know
(23:29):
how they worked last season. They'll be reminded. I'm sure
by the coaching staff. You know, they know how they grinded.
I wouldn't think this was a This seems like I'm
mature team to me, So I don't know that you
have to get their attention too many times in training camp.
Maybe they'll be an off day in terms of practice.
(23:49):
You stop the practice, remind guys, hey, listen, this doesn't
happen just because we show up.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
This isn't last year. This is a new year.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
But I don't think these guys, these guys seem to be.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
A pretty mature team in that regard.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
So yeah, I think by bringing guys back that went
through it and knows how it felt and wants some
more of it, then I think the natural progression is
to think, you know, we can.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We can.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
You might not have exactly the same record, but the
point of it is to be healthy and to have
a home game, home field advantage if possible, and then
you take your shot in the playoffs, and this team's capable.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
There was a stat out a couple of days ago
that I thought was is offensive snaps with the lead
last season, So the Patriots were the number one team
in the NFL with them the amount of offensive snaps
with the lead in games five and seventy.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Eight, Broncos is going to be way down the list, pretty.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Far down the list. So five seventy eights to number one.
Here Jets, by comparison were the worst, what sixty six.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
So Broncos probably two seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Higher hired that are do you want to take a
guest day or you just want to sell the Patriots.
Patriots were five seventy eight, I would say the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
There there were.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
You know, the Raiders game, so they had there were
games that they had.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I'm going to say three ninety, you're close four to
thirteen thirteen?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, so, But but.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I was so, which which which?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Not that it really matters for anybody other than us,
but which which one? I can tell you which one
I'd rather have? Broncos would Yeah, me too, so would I.
Here here's what I would worry about if I'm Mike Vrabel.
He's got a good team. They went to the Super Bowl,
got a young quarterback. I think it's going to be
a really good player at as. They'll add some pieces
(25:46):
here soon, I think, no pun intended. But but that
team didn't have to come from behind in the season
too many times. They didn't have They didn't have the
(26:08):
clutch gene. Because they didn't, it wasn't required. And I
think most seasons in the NFL, the clutch gene is required,
even for really good teams. Maybe not as many as
the Broncos had last year, but most teams, even really
good teams, four games, you're going to have to say, Okay,
(26:31):
we're down six in the fourth with five minutes to go,
and we're on the minus seventeen. We got to put
together an eighty three year touchdown dract. I mean, you've
got to have the ability to win games like that.
The Broncos clearly have it, and they're bringing everybody.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Back, so I'm not I'd rather be them.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
The New England, and especially since the Broncos trenches are entrenched,
you know what I mean, they have guys you like that. No,
so they have guys on the O line and D line,
and it's other than JFM. That's really the only starter
that's getting switched out now. The Patriots. The O line
(27:10):
was a struggle at the end of the year, so
they're going to have to figure out different ways. And
so I'm that right there, just O line in the
trench play. You got to put Denver ahead of a
lot of teams because they literally are bringing back all
five offensive linemen, they're bringing back most of the defensive
lineman other than obviously JFM was a huge contributor. But
(27:31):
you still have some guys there. So there isn't a
really good spot right now, a very good spot, which
I still to this day I can't believe it because
of how bad they were supposed to be a couple
of years ago, everyone kept talking about the dead money
from Russe Wilson and so they did it all before that,
and they're in a great spot now and then now
(27:52):
they can be considered that one of the best rosters
of NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Then I thought the same thing when I saw four
thirteen versus five seventys, Like you're talking about over one
hundred and sixty different snaps. There, same record fourteen and three,
but one hundred and sixty different snaps. And it's not
to say that the Patriots had everything easy. They did
have the easiest strength of schedule as we know, but
they won't this year.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But they won't this.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Year, and there becomes this expectation that we just can
do it this way because we are this is who
we are. We have to the Super Bowl, and boy,
we led the league and snaps with the lead, and
that's just teams just have fallen apart around us. The
Broncos didn't have that path, Like I know that they
ended up having a relatively weak strength of schedule, but
they and maybe some of the adversity they created for themselves,
(28:36):
but the fact is they still overcame it, which is valuable.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Well, let's not forgod, let's not forget that they're a
team that had to deal with injuries on and off,
and they had a big injury at the biggest time
of the year. And so this is a team. If
you're thinking that bow Knicks was really still around, you
could be talking about either a Super Bowl loser or
Super Bowl winner, and that right there put some above everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Broncos Country tonight coming at the top of the hours,
we got Rockies baseball coming up at seven o'clock. Bench
of an all right, sliding into studio high been, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That much?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Nice a song there, Leon Bridges smooth sailing. Hopefully you
have a more smooth sailing tonight for the rock Is
Why are you smiling?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I just can't have a smile on my face and
be happy.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Okay, No, cryptic's smiling is fine. Smiling is my favorite. No,
you're you're smiling?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Is cryptic?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Here?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
There's like a there's like a thing there. No, No,
maybe have a little distressing cryptic.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
The vibe field.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, I I asked the guys earlier, and I'm running
a poll on on my Twitter account.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Its sum huge.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
God walked right into that, sueing the Broncos at pick
a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I could have done the other way with it.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
The more people that you can get, then it's that
it's a worthy pole.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's just a fair It's just an awkward thing for
a man to say to another man.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's all, assuming they stay up a lie.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Go ahead? Sorry, sorry, wow, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry,
I stay tuned. Go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Can I please please continue?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh? Assuming assuming the Broncos stay of pick sixty two,
are you expecting the team to draft the player that
is a major contributor in your one I'm actually proud
of Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Sixty seven percent say no, so.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Because they because they've got a good team. Well, where
where you have? Where are they coming in? And who's
going to be?
Speaker 5 (30:48):
As Shelby said earlier the show, draft anybody you want to.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I mean you can't. You can't say, well, give me
this guy.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Who's the fourth overall draft choice, but draft anybody that's
going to be available in the sixty five ish region
and tell me what position that player would be, and
and tell me he'd come in and start where.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But Broncos Country can be a little unrealistic. I think
a lot of fan bases can be unrealistic.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Sixty five percent said no, I know, so they're being realistic.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Said yes, that's.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Why you don't do math. Leave me the math, right,
we don't have one hundred and five percent poles.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
We don't. Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
I'm here for you, silent your honor.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, what position would you say?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I think tight end would be the one that everybody
you think it.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Tight end in sixty sixty two minute start on Ingram
major contributor.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
So I think there's three positions where you'd get contributions.
Tight end might be one you running back and inside back,
or be the others.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I was gonna say inside backer.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
If Rodriguez is there, you sprint to the podium to
throw that car at the at the commissioner.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah. But then obviously it just depends. Like I said
earlier in the show, you know you don't want to
reach for a running back at that position though, and
so you got to go off of what you think
is worth the value at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
The second kid from Notre Dame will not be there,
will he? Price? First?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Early second?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
The guys I want to Rodriguez in price, and I'm
not sure the one I'm going to be there, but
with
Speaker 6 (32:26):
This draft having the off ball line linebackers that they
do have, you have to go grab one like early
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