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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By the way, the Rockies and Astros. We have a
cover starting at five thirty before we get to the
bus here. Do you realize the Astros they have lost
eight straight games, So not only were they swept by
the Rockies, but they are swept over the weekend by
Seattle as well, and they lost to the Athletics. So
they have now lost eight straight games leading into tonight's
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game against the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
The Rockies broke them. They broke them, I mean yeah,
and the Rockies, as you know, lost four straight.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, I think the rock I don't think the Rockies
have won since they announced that the Broncos owners by
part of the team could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Are you trying to make some kind of.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Cool Yeah, I just say, and it's what are you saying?
It's just a coincidence. But I don't think they won
since then because we got so excited we talked about
the last time I was on and it's great, But
then they went on to lose four straight. I hadn't
thought about that till you pointed it out. Yeah, sorry
to have to bring the me too. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So see, you got some really cool news today. A
new quarterback committed to the University of Colorado. In fact,
he did it on the Pat McAfee show earlier today.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Is cool.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
If you'd like to let the world know where you're
headed next, we'd be honored to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Brother, No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
First and foremost, I'd like to thank God for this.
I appreciate everybody coming out. You know, it's real big
for me and my family just seeing all the faces
and stuff. So I appreciate that a lot from all y'all.
But for my next three to four years, I'll be
committing to the University of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Bolo.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay, So congratulations don coach Prime.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Andre Adams, four star quarterback on the Pat McAfee show, committing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
To the University collraund Where is he from? That's a
good question.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You don't know either, not to you know, I guess
we would have known prior to him committing. There's a
lot of I'm gonna say, Texas or Florida.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hold on, I'm looking, I can't Yeah, I mind it
anywhere Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What what high school in Tennessee?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Just out of curiosity, Antioch High School, Antioch Okay, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Saw Antioch and I'm like, I don't know where that
is Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He chose the Buffs over Florida State, Kentucky, and Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Okay, hey, let's be excited.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
What's not the like, that's great? Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I mean, especially when again he had the spring game over.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The weekend, you had a bunch of press out there
about these guys being too small, which I thought was
kind of a little weird because the video clips after
you see the quarterbacks and like some defensive backs and
receivers like that, you don't you don't really see the
whole team. You're just seeing like a handful of players,
and you're like, okay, well, yeah, I mean those are
some position players and some dbs.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Like I'm not, those aren't the biggest guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So for whatever reason, but people were coming after SeeU like,
oh boy, coach Brian, what are you doing. You're You're
going to feel the smallest team in all of college football.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I thought that was a little bit unfair. Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I got to be honest about I didn't see I
didn't see any of the spring game, but and I
saw some of the Some of the social media posts
in terms of the Buffs don't have very good size.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean you would you would, you would worry about that.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It's that that were your offensive line or defensive line.
I mean to a certain extent, right, how do you
how do you look on the hoof?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Doesn't have much to do with how you can play
or not play.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
But at this time of the year, you know, you
can't really tell too much about the tight players you have.
I mean, you can as a coach if you're up
there working with those kids, but not just to look
at the games. So hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm like
every other Buss fan. I'm anxious to see what they
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can do when they start playing for keeps.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So Julian Lewis, who's a redsher freshman, Yep, it's probably
going to start, I imagine, I would think so Isaac
Wilson is a redsher sophomore, Canale sweet Wine who's a
true freshman, and now Andre Adams who's a twenty seven commit.
You know, you do wonder a little bit for coach Prime.
And again, I'm really looking forward to the season and
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I'm hoping they obviously have a chance to bounce back.
I mean, this is a bit of a proved season,
but the health stuff is always going to be there, right,
It's always going to be a discussion around him whether
they win or lose.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's just what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know, Brendan Marion, who's now going to be their
offensive coordinator. Maybe this is an opportunity for him to
just show something here is maybe even in the future
of the program.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, for those people that don't know him, he came
from sack State and he developed an offense that I
think he gave the nickname to the.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Go Go offense.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
But I actually went back, oh, this was I don't know,
February March maybe, and looked at a lot of stuff
that he did, pre creative stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
In the running game.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I'm axious to see they say they want to play fast.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He played.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
He played reasonably fast from time to time. So you know,
we can sit here speculated how it's going to be.
It's a step up in competition obviously, but you theoretically
should have better players to work with than what you
had at sax State as well.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I'm anxious to see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Certainly, the recruiter of Coach Prime has been tremendous for
the University of Colorado, but the coaching on the field
is something that he feels like he's still working through.
And again, when you're one of the highest paid coaches
in college football, Rick, I mean, that's something that you've
got to figure out here in a hurry or else
the team's going to continue to his games.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, that's one of the biggest criticisms for Coach Prime
is he's certainly not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
A good in game manager or coach.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And you know, he surrounded himself with guys that he
handpicked as assistant coaches, and there's been some criticism of
that as well. Like a lot of these guys you
brought in his NFL buddies did not have any coaching
experience anywhere. They played in the NFL, so they know
the game. They have PhDs in football, but it's a
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whole different ballgame that you can play in the NFL
or college football. Can you coach it? And I like
this hire the Sack State guy. I think this guy's
going to bring something. And as you said, with Coach
Prime's health situation, you could be looking at the next head.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Coach for CU. I also you had mentioned Kaneil sweet One.
He the last two years he was the starting quarterback
at Skyridge, which is a powerhouse of a high school
program out of the Salt Lake area, and we happened
to play the first over there and then they came
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to our place last year.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He is, he is a big time guy.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
He's I would bet he's six almost four six three
and a half maybe and he looked like he's probably
one ninety five maybe two hundred pounds. Can throw it
and he can run. He's an athlete. So you know,
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Julie Lewis, as you said, Ryan, I think maybe sort
of appears like he's a starter.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Maybe so.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But I'm telling you this incoming freshman, if you're a
CU fan, Kneil sweet Wind or Kaanie el No, I
don't know how he pronounced it for I'm just here
to tell you coaching against him, he is a dude
that that game when you played them here Skyridge here, yes,
and yeah, tremendous athlete, really good looking. We jumped out
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on him here. They beat us in Salt Lake. We
jumped out on him here. But you just knew they
would come back and largely they did, and he threw
a pick six against us. But he's I'm just telling you,
for a high school player, he's a dude.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You can tell he had all the talent. I thought.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I thought he was committed first to Illinois, and then
I heard he was committed to another school. I honestly
did not know until you just mentioned his name, and
I'm thinking, wait, sweet wine, I know that name.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's part of that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They have four quarterbacks now in the room, which again,
for some reason, Juju Lewis has.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The struggled better. They better be good players all and
now he's young. He's only going to be a freshman
right out of high school. But I think he's got
the goods.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Eli stowurs in town.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Maybe he likes funk music, play a little sound travel
guarantee it does.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Rights Betterbill guy, Yeah, has to like, has to like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What do you view the the thirty views visits? These
people usually call him top thirty visits. What do you
view about that? Is that something that you tend to
subscribe very much to or is that I guess for me,
it's it tends to be more of a it's like
a back check of whatever questions you still had.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, I would say the latter. I think you've already
done your homework. You're just trying to make sure there's
not I mean, I think what what scares NFL teams
the most is that there's one hidbit of information that
their scouts, their coaches, the GM, everybody that is there
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trying to figure out what this young guy is about
that they just missed and they're getting ready to make
a decision, and now all of a sudden it pops up.
So there you just over analyze and over prepare and
over communicate with these guys because you're just trying to
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do everything you can in terms of due diligence to
make sure you don't make a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And it's kind of interesting how many mistakes are made,
even with a microscope on these guys. Usually at least
every draft cycle they miss something big on one of
these prospects.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But why do you think they miss?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like that's the why is an interesting point, right because take.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Paxton Lynch for a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Why did the Broncos miss on Paxte Lynch Because they
I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Think they did as good a job as they needed
to do at being able to determine as best they could.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What's this guy's approach to football?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And is he just gifted physically because he got a
big arm? And NFL teams over the years have fallen
in love with guys that have his size, that are
good athletes and have a big arm.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But does the guy.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Live and breathe football? Is it other than his family
and maybe his faith? Is it the most important thing
in his life? Or is it like you know, I yeah,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I mean, I have a great time when I play.
I'm gonna go, you know, play some video games now
and I'll get back.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is it like that because you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
You cannot put your franchise in the hands of somebody
like that. Like I mean, when you start to think
about it, it's a little bit like although not to
the level of Packs and Lynch, but it's a little
bit like Kyler Murray in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean gifted even though he was small.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Gifted, athletic, good enough arm. But there's been the thought
and talk like I don't know if this dude really
really loves it. I think he's good at it, but
does he really love it?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Do you have to really love it regardless of the
position you play.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Quarterbacks for sure, right, I mean, is a different mindset.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I think it gives you the best chance from a
team standpoint. You you want as many of those guys
in your locker room. You're not gonna get all let's
say fifty three. You're not gonna get all fifty three
that love it, but you'd like seventy five percent of them.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, want guys that you know it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
When they lose, it matters to them. It's not like, hey, man,
where are you gonna go? We'll meet it to nine
thirty And okay, I mean, I'm not talking about being
so obsessed that you can't live when you lose, but
I'm talking about it really has to matter to your
players because it matters to coaches, and I think generally speaking,
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it matters more to coaches at any level of football
than it does to the players.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I had a question.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We were talking about Eli Stowers in town, and he's
a He's considered by many to be maybe a move
tight end or a big receiver. I want to ask
you this quickly, Dave, as you look at the tight
end room for the Broncos. What do they need if
they're going to get a tight end in the draft,
are you looking? I mean, everybody wants to have you know,
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Rob Gronkowski, everybody wants to have. Sure, you know one
of the one of the greats, right, I mean George
Kittle and what he does. He's an all around good tighten,
great tight end, right, yep, that'd be great if you
can draft an all around tight end. But I would
you lean one way or the other on Hey, I
want to have a receiving prowess that I can teach
blocking or no, I want to have a really great
blocker that I can teach as a receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, that's that's a tough that's a tough question because
you you know, with a guy like Kittle, I mean
they got him in the fourth or fifth right round, Yeah,
right after right after Jake. But yeah, you can you
can find gems like that. I mean, ideally you want
a guy like that, You want a guy like Gronkowski
who is the second round pick, because you want them
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to be not just adequate in the running game, you
want them to be able to block the in man
on the line of scrimmage, or you want them to
be able to with a with a tackle get involved in,
you know, a combination block. It takes a different sort
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of mindset for a tied end to be willing to
stick his nose in there, And a lot of guys
while they stick their nose in there are trying to
get their ass out of harm's way because they know
the ball's coming like right behind them. And then you
get guys like Kittling, I mean, Kelsey was more than
an adequate blocker at one point of his career. Gronkowski,
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there are others, but those guys are hard to find.
So the answer, in a long winded way, I would
want to know from Davi's web, Like, Okay, you're gonna
call the place ostensibly, how big a factor do you
think in your play selection tight end is going to be?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You just got to be honest about it.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I mean, Sean has used the tight end in New
Orleans quite a bit, and he really hadn't used the
tight end here. So did he just fall off the
back of the turnup truck and hit his head and
he's forgotten how to use the tight end? I don't
think so, So that would tell me that he's not
completely comfortable with who he has in the room in
terms of making them a focal part of the passing offense,
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including Evan Ingram. Now, I think Evan Ingram was underutilized
some because I mean, he can, as we said yesterday,
can really run.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But there has to be.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Something else that Sean looks at and says, I don't
see it. So, Davis Web, how much do you want
to use the tight end? How integral a part of
your offense ideally would you like him to be? And
that'll tell me exactly how high or how hard do
we work at getting the tight end in the draft.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When do you look at Stowar and you would know
this Ryan, I don't know if he's known to be
a decent blocking tight end.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He's an athlete.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
To me, he seems like a bigger version of Evan Ingram,
like a big wide receiver. Dude, guy played quarterback in
college for a while, so you know he's really athletic.
I don't know how serious they would be about bringing
him in with Evan Ingram already here similar game. I'm thinking,
if you're going to draft a tight end, you get
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one that can really block and catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
With those guys don't follow me. They're hard. They're hard
to find hard.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I played with the guy Ryan and Rick that's in
the Hall of Fame. Ozzie knewsoon right played wide receiver
and never played tight.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
End in Alabama.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Fore Bear Bryant came in and they put him inside
and put me outside. Okay, Ozzie was six two, like
two thirty. There's not a player in the league or
coaching the league that would look at Ozzie over his
I think twelve year career, Hall of Fame career and
say that dude was a devastating blocker. Now he was
a willing blocker. He was a little bit like Shannon
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Sharp with the Broncos. Shannon Shannon would give the effort
in the running game, and he he nullified guys because
of his strengths. But Ozzy, Ozzie was not a devastating blocker.
But I'd rather find a guy that is superior in
the passing game. Is a mismatch for if you're going
to put a linebacker on him or a safety, because
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he could run. Ozzie could really run, and I'd rather
have that guy and then I'll work with him in
the running game because he's willing. I'll work with him
where he's an adequate end of the line blocker and
then I'll beat you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
See that.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And that's kind of where my question came from.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Because Eli Stowers, I mean, it's an investment you'd have
to take the second round.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I don't think he's going to get into the third round.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I agree, And so if that ends up being the case,
and to your question, he he didn't get a lot
of opportunities. I think in part with he only lined
up twenty one percent of the time in inline, so
they didn't use him a lot for that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Now, is that because he's not good at it?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Maybe because he's so good as a receiver, and that's
really what they used in that in Vanderbilt. So the
way I look at Eli Stowers is to what Dave
just described. He is one of the top pass catching
tight ends in this draft. So if that's what you
want on this team, and if you think you can
develop him as a blocker, then you absolutely go target him.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But if you need somebody that we can work with
in the receiving game, but I need him to be
able to sort of replace Adam Troutman. Long term, like
I need to know that he can do that. I
don't know if Eli Stowers is a good fit for you.
I don't know if he's ever going to get there.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
And maybe Davis Webb looks at Evan Ingram and says,
wait a minute, I know what I can get out
of that guy. He spend some time with him as
a player. Maybe Davis Webb thinks in his mind that
he's going to be able to get more out of
Evan Ingram, which would buy the Broncos another year. That
you don't have to spend that particular draft choice on
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a tight end unless you love that tight end. Maybe
then next year it's the tight end draft. So there's
all sorts of you know, all sorts of I mean,
it's a shell game. Oh yeah, oh yeah, truly, it's
it's almost like a Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, that's the way I look at it. I think it. Really,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah, I put money in here, and you're gonna get that,
and then I'm gonna move money over here. This player
is gonna come over here. We can get another year
out of this guy. Okay, let's not spend the money
on that guy. Let's go over here. It's uh, it's
beautiful and it's it's legal, but it's crazy. Yeah, they
already had that guy, in my opinion, in Evan Ingram,
and I think we're going to see a better year
from him this season. But if you draft this guy
in the second round, what are you going to do
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with Evan Ingram?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, you got one more year left with him, and sensible,
you're drafting for the future, So it's like a development
year the future fair And it's not to say that
because the room is what it is. I still think
there's there's a path no matter who they draft, and
I both David and I think they're.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Gonna get a tight end.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I mean, at least we have talked about do we
think tight end comes out of this at some place?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Whether or not that has a major role in your one.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I guess maybe it depends on how high they're drafts
and how quickly they act climate And I've always been
it's an interesting sort of mindset of coaches. There are
some coaches out there they're saying, look, if you're not
going to be a good blocker, you're not.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Allowed on the field as a rookie. Like like when
it comes to tight ends.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I tend to be like, hey, if you're special, like
if you got Eli's towers, which you might even have
to trade up from sixty two to get him, if
you get the ice towers, he's got to see the
field man, right, he's an elite receiving weapon. But there
are coaches, and Dave, you could probably speak to this
better than I. There are coaches out there that have
a mindset of like, Okay, we drafted because you know
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what you can do there, but you don't see the
field until we know you can be more proficient as
a blocker to you, we know that you're not a
liability for us. You don't feel the same way about
Evan Ingram because he's established.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, I mean that that's the way that a lot
of coaches try to motivate the young player. Listen me,
you got to get in the run game. And if
you don't get better in the run game, you're not
going to be on the field. I mean, what motivates
players in the NFL is not playing. Every one of
these guys wants to play. If you start taking away
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tick from these guys, and here's the reason that you're
on the field less, right, whether it's you know, effort
across the field in the running game, I mean little
things that that's the only hammer really the coaches have
because a lot of these guys, whether you know they've
signed big contracts or they've had bonuses or what have you,
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you know they're going to be there longer than the coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So that's that's the motivation.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I'm not going to play you unless we get better
in the running game.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, there are other tight ends, whether day two or
even later, that I think could be better fit if
you're looking for an all round skill set.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Again, you know, Kenyon Sadik is kind of the top
of the mountain here.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He's going to go first round, way before the Broncos
even can consider taking.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Him, maybe to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Maye God hope not that would I would not.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That would not shock me. Chiefs to have what nine nine,
It would not shock now.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Actually have two picks.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, so he've probably be gone before twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
For absolute certainty, he will, but he'll be there at
nine probably so guessing.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But Max Claire out of Ohio State kind of a
little bit more of an all around tight end. He's
also projected to be Day two from I mean, he's
he's six foot is a six foot five, six foot four,
two forty six. I like Max Claire. It's interesting though
what I see. They actually have two tight ends that
are gonna go kind of in the same range. They
got one that's gonna be a third rounder, and I
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think they're the one that's gonna be Day three guy
because he's more of an in line Why but Max
Claire looks like a guy that that has a chance,
like if you're thinking for Adam Troutman's sake, right, a
guy that can sort of step in and be a
willing blocker, a good blocker right off the bat. The
guy that I really love, though, I desperately what the
Broncos get is Oscar delp That's that out of Georgia.
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That's the dude that I really hope the Broncos get.
But you don't have to take him at sixty two. You
probably can wait.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maybe that's the really big guys.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
He's a big guy.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He is let me see here he is well, he's
only six six y five two forty five. He's more
of a projection as far as receiver, He's shown some
explosive nature.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
But I want to tell you this, If you watch
him block, it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Reminds you a little bit of George Kettle because he
has sort of a nastiness about it, like he takes
it personally.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Again, I think I think it depends on with a
new play caller and a young quarterback. What you know,
do they really want to run the ball like they
say they want to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
If so, it really helps.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The running game if you have an inline tight end
that'll stick his nose in there and try to dislodge
a defensive end.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, and those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Are hard to find, and they're even harder to find
when you combine. And oh, by the way, i'd like
you to be an above average to a pretty damn
good receiver as well.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Those guys make millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
If you're going to trade up in the second round,
you probably wouldn't take a tight end. Well, what position
would you take if you're going to trade up?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Well, if you want that second tight end, you're going
to have to move up.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, ours, you'll have Stowers.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Will not be there. I don't think where the Broncos
currently pick.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I agree, But would you trade up for a tight
end based on how this roster is set up, right.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
We trade up for him? I like him a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I would not trade up for him if you position
would you trade if he falls in your lafe of
sixty two, Well then that's a different conversation. Then you're
having a bit of discussion. But if if it's about
trading up for him.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't know if I'm in a position where I
feel little aggressive. We were having this exercise earlier, Zach,
and I like like price right the running back out
of Notre Dame. Like if he somehow is in there
in the fifties, like you do, you get aggressive. But
if you trade up for a running back, for example,
which I think a lot of Broncos fans feel like,
that's got to be another investment you.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Make in that room because of what JK. Dobbins history is,
I'd agree with.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Every one of those fans.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
By the way, do you did you send sort of
a weird message by trading up for a running back?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
After adding not only JK. Dobbins with a two year contract.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
About sending the weird message too well.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
For both R. J. Harvey and JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Let me let me just help you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
They they don't give two blanks about what message anybody
gets about that. They don't I mean they could care.
They don't give two flips. They don't give multiple flips
what you think.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They don't care. They're so down care. That's point. They
don't care.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
That will not be the reason they don't make that move.
Their job is to go out and get the best
players they can get. Your job as a player is
to be pissed about it, but hurt a little bit
more angry, and then prepare yourself in the off season, like, Okay,
I'm coming to camp and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You don't think there's some optics on trading up for
a running back?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
To who and to the team, to everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They don't care pretty much announcing that that guy is
expected to be an individual starter for it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
They don't care. Okay, they don't care. Do you think JK.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Dobbins signed as a free agent before the season last year?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Do you think he cared that R. J.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Harvey was the second round draft and relatively high second
round draft.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do you think he cared?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
He definitely did.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He didn't care.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
In fact, I asked him if he cared, and he said,
I do not care.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Confident, I'm confident in my skills. Tell the young fellow
to buckle up. That that I mean, that environment is
so steeped in like competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They they honestly, they they don't care. They'll be yeah,
who's like me asking him though? If he cares, Yeah,
he'll be like hey, JK. And you know he's gonna say,
I don't care. Welcome all of them. Yeah, we just
want guys. It'll help us get better. Bring it on.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I would.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I would if they had a running back they loved
in the second round, that would be the position I
would take in this draft. I don't know that price though,
is gonna he's the same as Tours in terms of
dropping all the way to sixty whatever it.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Is, sixty two to two. I don't I'd be surprised.
I'd be surprised if he dropped to sixty two. So
if you if you want that guy, you probably have
enough draft capital to be able to move up high enough.
You're probably evaluating, Okay, who's gonna who's looking for a
running back in the top part of the second round.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, if you want that guy, yeah, if generan
price ends up being there. That's that's a different conversation.
I just don't think there's another position. I mean, there's
certainly some of his linebackers that like, uh, get out
of Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Rodriguez like a lot, But even then the trade up there.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He's stubby.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I mean, he's a good player, but he's he's stubby. Yeah,
he's not very How.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Big is he? Let me look it up. Yeah, I'll
tell you.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
He reminds me a little bit of you on steroids.
I mean the picture though, I'm saying, how tall is he?
Maybe six foot maybe?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Or is he? Is he bigger than that? He's a
damn good player.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Six Yeah, he's six one at the combine six one
two thirty one is official measurements, Okay, and run a
four five seven forty.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's that's that's pretty good. It's just pretty good for
for inside lines. He makes a ton of plays as
he does, makes a ton of place. I mean, i'd
be listen, I'd be I'd be good with that. I mean,
that's that's a position of need as well, if if
for no other reason, just for depth, in case something
would happened either Singleton nor Stora.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What do you think about the message day they.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Don't care or not just chose to come back here. Yeah,
I mean Justin's gonna say, man, I just signed a
deal in the six million dollars deal and you draft
a guy in the second round.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, they don't, they don't care. There's a kid out
of Cincinnati. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I like him too.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
He's a good player.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, he's real good play. He's gonna he's gonna go
day two. He might even go right around that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So you wouldn't have to trade up for a guy
like him, No, more than likely.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Uh, you know, like Josiah Fronter is gonna be kind
of in that range.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think C. J.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Allen will be way gone.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Georgia trying to think Anthony Hill's probably way gone. And
so I think I think in that range you're looking
at it about like three or four guys that you
would that you would really like. I mean I think
that they all they all have different sort of size
and capabilities. That's why the whole concept of what are
you trade up for? I don't know, I feel like all.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Of these guys.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So so the only thing with the tight end is
coming back to that for a second, because after Stours
there is another drop off as far as those kinds
of tight ends, like what whatever you've viewed Tours as
the next group was to be more like third round,
fourth round and beyond like there. I don't think there's
gonna be another second round tight end. That's my point.
So if you view him as as the next tier
(30:26):
and then there's there's nothing, then just trade back, go
get one of those guys, which actually I I kind
of wonder if George Payton wants to do anyways with
that sixty two pick.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They've they've done that a lot so and.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
He's been great in the third round, hasn't he? Quinn
Minors it was the third rounder. Yeah, Baron Browning is
pretty good player.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No longer here. I'm not going to bring.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Up the tight end at the u c l A.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We we will not name no longer here Jonah else
to be determined. Really well, you're gonna move him inside.
I like that move too, You do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Why he's you got the right size and athletic ability
I think to really shine in that position. I think
that's a good a good chance to take with him.
Plus they have plenty of guys that can play on
the edge. Why not give him a shot inside.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
One thing I would say about that is that that
is a totally different world, you know, as opposed to
an edge.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I think he's a good edge player.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Maybe maybe he turns out to be a good or
really good inside backer, but it's a totally different thing
lining up four yards from a guy that weighs three
hundred and forty pounds who's trying to come out and
shorten your neck, as opposed to lining up on the
edge and having to figure out how can I pass
rush this left tackle and put some pressure on the quarterback.
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There's just a lot more action inside, So we'll see.
But I think, you know, his brother's a good player
inside for the Patriots, so he's got you know, you
got that a little bit of DNA thing. And I
do think he's just a really good football player.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Who's the guy they moved inside for the Eagles?
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Was edge in New Orleans? The ball hit a dude
fifty three? Yeah, Yeah, I'm into the calling by fifty three? Yeah,
Zach Bond. Now, Zach Bond, I mean turned.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Out to be a player inside, right, And maybe maybe
maybe Jones, the same one.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, could be the case.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, five six nights there was a kay with
Comma Sprudel text line. Come up here at the top
of the are we got news and traffic, the latest
on that massive accident there on east bound I seventy.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
We'll get to that now
By the way, the Rockies and Astros. We have a
cover starting at five thirty before we get to the
bus here. Do you realize the Astros they have lost
eight straight games, So not only were they swept by
the Rockies, but they are swept over the weekend by
Seattle as well, and they lost to the Athletics. So
they have now lost eight straight games leading into tonight's
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game against the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
The Rockies broke them. They broke them, I mean yeah,
and the Rockies, as you know, lost four straight.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, I think the rock I don't think the Rockies
have won since they announced that the Broncos owners by
part of the team could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Are you trying to make some kind of.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Cool Yeah, I just say, and it's what are you saying?
It's just a coincidence. But I don't think they won
since then because we got so excited we talked about
the last time I was on and it's great, But
then they went on to lose four straight. I hadn't
thought about that till you pointed it out. Yeah, sorry
to have to bring the me too. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So see, you got some really cool news today. A
new quarterback committed to the University of Colorado. In fact,
he did it on the Pat McAfee show earlier today.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Is cool.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
If you'd like to let the world know where you're
headed next, we'd be honored to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Brother, No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
First and foremost, I'd like to thank God for this.
I appreciate everybody coming out. You know, it's real big
for me and my family just seeing all the faces
and stuff. So I appreciate that a lot from all y'all.
But for my next three to four years, I'll be
committing to the University of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Bolo.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay, So congratulations don coach Prime.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Andre Adams, four star quarterback on the Pat McAfee show, committing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
To the University collraund Where is he from? That's a
good question.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You don't know either, not to you know, I guess
we would have known prior to him committing. There's a
lot of I'm gonna say, Texas or Florida.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hold on, I'm looking, I can't Yeah, I mind it
anywhere Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What what high school in Tennessee?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Just out of curiosity, Antioch High School, Antioch Okay, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Saw Antioch and I'm like, I don't know where that
is Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He chose the Buffs over Florida State, Kentucky, and Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Okay, hey, let's be excited.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
What's not the like, that's great? Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I mean, especially when again he had the spring game over.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The weekend, you had a bunch of press out there
about these guys being too small, which I thought was
kind of a little weird because the video clips after
you see the quarterbacks and like some defensive backs and
receivers like that, you don't you don't really see the
whole team. You're just seeing like a handful of players,
and you're like, okay, well, yeah, I mean those are
some position players and some dbs.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Like I'm not, those aren't the biggest guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So for whatever reason, but people were coming after SeeU like,
oh boy, coach Brian, what are you doing. You're You're
going to feel the smallest team in all of college football.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I thought that was a little bit unfair. Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I got to be honest about I didn't see I
didn't see any of the spring game, but and I
saw some of the Some of the social media posts
in terms of the Buffs don't have very good size.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean you would you would, you would worry about that.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It's that that were your offensive line or defensive line.
I mean to a certain extent, right, how do you
how do you look on the hoof?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Doesn't have much to do with how you can play
or not play.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
But at this time of the year, you know, you
can't really tell too much about the tight players you have.
I mean, you can as a coach if you're up
there working with those kids, but not just to look
at the games. So hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm like
every other Buss fan. I'm anxious to see what they
(04:04):
can do when they start playing for keeps.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So Julian Lewis, who's a redsher freshman, Yep, it's probably
going to start, I imagine, I would think so Isaac
Wilson is a redsher sophomore, Canale sweet Wine who's a
true freshman, and now Andre Adams who's a twenty seven commit.
You know, you do wonder a little bit for coach Prime.
And again, I'm really looking forward to the season and
(04:27):
I'm hoping they obviously have a chance to bounce back.
I mean, this is a bit of a proved season,
but the health stuff is always going to be there, right,
It's always going to be a discussion around him whether
they win or lose.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's just what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know, Brendan Marion, who's now going to be their
offensive coordinator. Maybe this is an opportunity for him to
just show something here is maybe even in the future
of the program.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, for those people that don't know him, he came
from sack State and he developed an offense that I
think he gave the nickname to the.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Go Go offense.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
But I actually went back, oh, this was I don't know,
February March maybe, and looked at a lot of stuff
that he did, pre creative stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
In the running game.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I'm axious to see they say they want to play fast.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He played.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
He played reasonably fast from time to time. So you know,
we can sit here speculated how it's going to be.
It's a step up in competition obviously, but you theoretically
should have better players to work with than what you
had at sax State as well.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I'm anxious to see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Certainly, the recruiter of Coach Prime has been tremendous for
the University of Colorado, but the coaching on the field
is something that he feels like he's still working through.
And again, when you're one of the highest paid coaches
in college football, Rick, I mean, that's something that you've
got to figure out here in a hurry or else
the team's going to continue to his games.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, that's one of the biggest criticisms for Coach Prime
is he's certainly not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
A good in game manager or coach.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And you know, he surrounded himself with guys that he
handpicked as assistant coaches, and there's been some criticism of
that as well. Like a lot of these guys you
brought in his NFL buddies did not have any coaching
experience anywhere. They played in the NFL, so they know
the game. They have PhDs in football, but it's a
(06:24):
whole different ballgame that you can play in the NFL
or college football. Can you coach it? And I like
this hire the Sack State guy. I think this guy's
going to bring something. And as you said, with Coach
Prime's health situation, you could be looking at the next head.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Coach for CU. I also you had mentioned Kaneil sweet One.
He the last two years he was the starting quarterback
at Skyridge, which is a powerhouse of a high school
program out of the Salt Lake area, and we happened
to play the first over there and then they came
(07:02):
to our place last year.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He is, he is a big time guy.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
He's I would bet he's six almost four six three
and a half maybe and he looked like he's probably
one ninety five maybe two hundred pounds. Can throw it
and he can run. He's an athlete. So you know,
(07:29):
Julie Lewis, as you said, Ryan, I think maybe sort
of appears like he's a starter.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Maybe so.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But I'm telling you this incoming freshman, if you're a
CU fan, Kneil sweet Wind or Kaanie el No, I
don't know how he pronounced it for I'm just here
to tell you coaching against him, he is a dude
that that game when you played them here Skyridge here, yes,
and yeah, tremendous athlete, really good looking. We jumped out
(07:56):
on him here. They beat us in Salt Lake. We
jumped out on him here. But you just knew they
would come back and largely they did, and he threw
a pick six against us. But he's I'm just telling you,
for a high school player, he's a dude.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You can tell he had all the talent. I thought.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I thought he was committed first to Illinois, and then
I heard he was committed to another school. I honestly
did not know until you just mentioned his name, and
I'm thinking, wait, sweet wine, I know that name.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's part of that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They have four quarterbacks now in the room, which again,
for some reason, Juju Lewis has.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The struggled better. They better be good players all and
now he's young. He's only going to be a freshman
right out of high school. But I think he's got
the goods.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Eli stowurs in town.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Maybe he likes funk music, play a little sound travel
guarantee it does.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Rights Betterbill guy, Yeah, has to like, has to like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What do you view the the thirty views visits? These
people usually call him top thirty visits. What do you
view about that? Is that something that you tend to
subscribe very much to or is that I guess for me,
it's it tends to be more of a it's like
a back check of whatever questions you still had.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, I would say the latter. I think you've already
done your homework. You're just trying to make sure there's
not I mean, I think what what scares NFL teams
the most is that there's one hidbit of information that
their scouts, their coaches, the GM, everybody that is there
(09:33):
trying to figure out what this young guy is about
that they just missed and they're getting ready to make
a decision, and now all of a sudden it pops up.
So there you just over analyze and over prepare and
over communicate with these guys because you're just trying to
(09:54):
do everything you can in terms of due diligence to
make sure you don't make a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And it's kind of interesting how many mistakes are made,
even with a microscope on these guys. Usually at least
every draft cycle they miss something big on one of
these prospects.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But why do you think they miss?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like that's the why is an interesting point, right because take.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Paxton Lynch for a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Why did the Broncos miss on Paxte Lynch Because they
I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Think they did as good a job as they needed
to do at being able to determine as best they could.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What's this guy's approach to football?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And is he just gifted physically because he got a
big arm? And NFL teams over the years have fallen
in love with guys that have his size, that are
good athletes and have a big arm.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But does the guy.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Live and breathe football? Is it other than his family
and maybe his faith? Is it the most important thing
in his life? Or is it like you know, I yeah,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I mean, I have a great time when I play.
I'm gonna go, you know, play some video games now
and I'll get back.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is it like that because you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
You cannot put your franchise in the hands of somebody
like that. Like I mean, when you start to think
about it, it's a little bit like although not to
the level of Packs and Lynch, but it's a little
bit like Kyler Murray in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean gifted even though he was small.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Gifted, athletic, good enough arm. But there's been the thought
and talk like I don't know if this dude really
really loves it. I think he's good at it, but
does he really love it?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Do you have to really love it regardless of the
position you play.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Quarterbacks for sure, right, I mean, is a different mindset.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I think it gives you the best chance from a
team standpoint. You you want as many of those guys
in your locker room. You're not gonna get all let's
say fifty three. You're not gonna get all fifty three
that love it, but you'd like seventy five percent of them.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, want guys that you know it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
When they lose, it matters to them. It's not like, hey, man,
where are you gonna go? We'll meet it to nine
thirty And okay, I mean, I'm not talking about being
so obsessed that you can't live when you lose, but
I'm talking about it really has to matter to your
players because it matters to coaches, and I think generally speaking,
(12:39):
it matters more to coaches at any level of football
than it does to the players.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I had a question.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We were talking about Eli Stowers in town, and he's
a He's considered by many to be maybe a move
tight end or a big receiver. I want to ask
you this quickly, Dave, as you look at the tight
end room for the Broncos. What do they need if
they're going to get a tight end in the draft,
are you looking? I mean, everybody wants to have you know,
(13:19):
Rob Gronkowski, everybody wants to have. Sure, you know one
of the one of the greats, right, I mean George
Kittle and what he does. He's an all around good tighten,
great tight end, right, yep, that'd be great if you
can draft an all around tight end. But I would
you lean one way or the other on Hey, I
want to have a receiving prowess that I can teach
blocking or no, I want to have a really great
blocker that I can teach as a receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, that's that's a tough that's a tough question because
you you know, with a guy like Kittle, I mean
they got him in the fourth or fifth right round, Yeah,
right after right after Jake. But yeah, you can you
can find gems like that. I mean, ideally you want
a guy like that, You want a guy like Gronkowski
who is the second round pick, because you want them
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to be not just adequate in the running game, you
want them to be able to block the in man
on the line of scrimmage, or you want them to
be able to with a with a tackle get involved in,
you know, a combination block. It takes a different sort
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of mindset for a tied end to be willing to
stick his nose in there, And a lot of guys
while they stick their nose in there are trying to
get their ass out of harm's way because they know
the ball's coming like right behind them. And then you
get guys like Kittling, I mean, Kelsey was more than
an adequate blocker at one point of his career. Gronkowski,
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there are others, but those guys are hard to find.
So the answer, in a long winded way, I would
want to know from Davi's web, Like, Okay, you're gonna
call the place ostensibly, how big a factor do you
think in your play selection tight end is going to be?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You just got to be honest about it.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I mean, Sean has used the tight end in New
Orleans quite a bit, and he really hadn't used the
tight end here. So did he just fall off the
back of the turnup truck and hit his head and
he's forgotten how to use the tight end? I don't
think so, So that would tell me that he's not
completely comfortable with who he has in the room in
terms of making them a focal part of the passing offense,
(15:30):
including Evan Ingram. Now, I think Evan Ingram was underutilized
some because I mean, he can, as we said yesterday,
can really run.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But there has to be.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Something else that Sean looks at and says, I don't
see it. So, Davis Web, how much do you want
to use the tight end? How integral a part of
your offense ideally would you like him to be? And
that'll tell me exactly how high or how hard do
we work at getting the tight end in the draft.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When do you look at Stowar and you would know
this Ryan, I don't know if he's known to be
a decent blocking tight end.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He's an athlete.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
To me, he seems like a bigger version of Evan Ingram,
like a big wide receiver. Dude, guy played quarterback in
college for a while, so you know he's really athletic.
I don't know how serious they would be about bringing
him in with Evan Ingram already here similar game. I'm thinking,
if you're going to draft a tight end, you get
(16:28):
one that can really block and catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
With those guys don't follow me. They're hard. They're hard
to find hard.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I played with the guy Ryan and Rick that's in
the Hall of Fame. Ozzie knewsoon right played wide receiver
and never played tight.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
End in Alabama.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Fore Bear Bryant came in and they put him inside
and put me outside. Okay, Ozzie was six two, like
two thirty. There's not a player in the league or
coaching the league that would look at Ozzie over his
I think twelve year career, Hall of Fame career and
say that dude was a devastating blocker. Now he was
a willing blocker. He was a little bit like Shannon
(17:06):
Sharp with the Broncos. Shannon Shannon would give the effort
in the running game, and he he nullified guys because
of his strengths. But Ozzy, Ozzie was not a devastating blocker.
But I'd rather find a guy that is superior in
the passing game. Is a mismatch for if you're going
to put a linebacker on him or a safety, because
(17:27):
he could run. Ozzie could really run, and I'd rather
have that guy and then I'll work with him in
the running game because he's willing. I'll work with him
where he's an adequate end of the line blocker and
then I'll beat you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
See that.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And that's kind of where my question came from.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Because Eli Stowers, I mean, it's an investment you'd have
to take the second round.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I don't think he's going to get into the third round.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I agree, And so if that ends up being the case,
and to your question, he he didn't get a lot
of opportunities. I think in part with he only lined
up twenty one percent of the time in inline, so
they didn't use him a lot for that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Now, is that because he's not good at it?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Maybe because he's so good as a receiver, and that's
really what they used in that in Vanderbilt. So the
way I look at Eli Stowers is to what Dave
just described. He is one of the top pass catching
tight ends in this draft. So if that's what you
want on this team, and if you think you can
develop him as a blocker, then you absolutely go target him.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But if you need somebody that we can work with
in the receiving game, but I need him to be
able to sort of replace Adam Troutman. Long term, like
I need to know that he can do that. I
don't know if Eli Stowers is a good fit for you.
I don't know if he's ever going to get there.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
And maybe Davis Webb looks at Evan Ingram and says,
wait a minute, I know what I can get out
of that guy. He spend some time with him as
a player. Maybe Davis Webb thinks in his mind that
he's going to be able to get more out of
Evan Ingram, which would buy the Broncos another year. That
you don't have to spend that particular draft choice on
(19:00):
a tight end unless you love that tight end. Maybe
then next year it's the tight end draft. So there's
all sorts of you know, all sorts of I mean,
it's a shell game. Oh yeah, oh yeah, truly, it's
it's almost like a Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, that's the way I look at it. I think it. Really,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah, I put money in here, and you're gonna get that,
and then I'm gonna move money over here. This player
is gonna come over here. We can get another year
out of this guy. Okay, let's not spend the money
on that guy. Let's go over here. It's uh, it's
beautiful and it's it's legal, but it's crazy. Yeah, they
already had that guy, in my opinion, in Evan Ingram,
and I think we're going to see a better year
from him this season. But if you draft this guy
in the second round, what are you going to do
(19:41):
with Evan Ingram?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, you got one more year left with him, and sensible,
you're drafting for the future, So it's like a development
year the future fair And it's not to say that
because the room is what it is. I still think
there's there's a path no matter who they draft, and
I both David and I think they're.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Gonna get a tight end.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I mean, at least we have talked about do we
think tight end comes out of this at some place?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Whether or not that has a major role in your one.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I guess maybe it depends on how high they're drafts
and how quickly they act climate And I've always been
it's an interesting sort of mindset of coaches. There are
some coaches out there they're saying, look, if you're not
going to be a good blocker, you're not.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Allowed on the field as a rookie. Like like when
it comes to tight ends.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I tend to be like, hey, if you're special, like
if you got Eli's towers, which you might even have
to trade up from sixty two to get him, if
you get the ice towers, he's got to see the
field man, right, he's an elite receiving weapon. But there
are coaches, and Dave, you could probably speak to this
better than I. There are coaches out there that have
a mindset of like, Okay, we drafted because you know
(20:42):
what you can do there, but you don't see the
field until we know you can be more proficient as
a blocker to you, we know that you're not a
liability for us. You don't feel the same way about
Evan Ingram because he's established.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, I mean that that's the way that a lot
of coaches try to motivate the young player. Listen me,
you got to get in the run game. And if
you don't get better in the run game, you're not
going to be on the field. I mean, what motivates
players in the NFL is not playing. Every one of
these guys wants to play. If you start taking away
(21:15):
tick from these guys, and here's the reason that you're
on the field less, right, whether it's you know, effort
across the field in the running game, I mean little
things that that's the only hammer really the coaches have
because a lot of these guys, whether you know they've
signed big contracts or they've had bonuses or what have you,
(21:38):
you know they're going to be there longer than the coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So that's that's the motivation.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I'm not going to play you unless we get better
in the running game.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, there are other tight ends, whether day two or
even later, that I think could be better fit if
you're looking for an all round skill set.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Again, you know, Kenyon Sadik is kind of the top
of the mountain here.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He's going to go first round, way before the Broncos
even can consider taking.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Him, maybe to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Maye God hope not that would I would not.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That would not shock me. Chiefs to have what nine nine,
It would not shock now.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Actually have two picks.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, so he've probably be gone before twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
For absolute certainty, he will, but he'll be there at
nine probably so guessing.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But Max Claire out of Ohio State kind of a
little bit more of an all around tight end. He's
also projected to be Day two from I mean, he's
he's six foot is a six foot five, six foot four,
two forty six. I like Max Claire. It's interesting though
what I see. They actually have two tight ends that
are gonna go kind of in the same range. They
got one that's gonna be a third rounder, and I
(22:43):
think they're the one that's gonna be Day three guy
because he's more of an in line Why but Max
Claire looks like a guy that that has a chance,
like if you're thinking for Adam Troutman's sake, right, a
guy that can sort of step in and be a
willing blocker, a good blocker right off the bat. The
guy that I really love, though, I desperately what the
Broncos get is Oscar delp That's that out of Georgia.
(23:06):
That's the dude that I really hope the Broncos get.
But you don't have to take him at sixty two. You
probably can wait.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maybe that's the really big guys.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
He's a big guy.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He is let me see here he is well, he's
only six six y five two forty five. He's more
of a projection as far as receiver, He's shown some
explosive nature.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
But I want to tell you this, If you watch
him block, it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Reminds you a little bit of George Kettle because he
has sort of a nastiness about it, like he takes
it personally.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Again, I think I think it depends on with a
new play caller and a young quarterback. What you know,
do they really want to run the ball like they
say they want to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
If so, it really helps.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The running game if you have an inline tight end
that'll stick his nose in there and try to dislodge
a defensive end.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, and those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Are hard to find, and they're even harder to find
when you combine. And oh, by the way, i'd like
you to be an above average to a pretty damn
good receiver as well.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Those guys make millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
If you're going to trade up in the second round,
you probably wouldn't take a tight end. Well, what position
would you take if you're going to trade up?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Well, if you want that second tight end, you're going
to have to move up.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, ours, you'll have Stowers.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Will not be there. I don't think where the Broncos
currently pick.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I agree, But would you trade up for a tight
end based on how this roster is set up, right.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
We trade up for him? I like him a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I would not trade up for him if you position
would you trade if he falls in your lafe of
sixty two, Well then that's a different conversation. Then you're
having a bit of discussion. But if if it's about
trading up for him.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't know if I'm in a position where I
feel little aggressive. We were having this exercise earlier, Zach,
and I like like price right the running back out
of Notre Dame. Like if he somehow is in there
in the fifties, like you do, you get aggressive. But
if you trade up for a running back, for example,
which I think a lot of Broncos fans feel like,
that's got to be another investment you.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Make in that room because of what JK. Dobbins history is,
I'd agree with.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Every one of those fans.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
By the way, do you did you send sort of
a weird message by trading up for a running back?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
After adding not only JK. Dobbins with a two year contract.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
About sending the weird message too well.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
For both R. J. Harvey and JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Let me let me just help you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
They they don't give two blanks about what message anybody
gets about that. They don't I mean they could care.
They don't give two flips. They don't give multiple flips
what you think.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They don't care. They're so down care. That's point. They
don't care.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
That will not be the reason they don't make that move.
Their job is to go out and get the best
players they can get. Your job as a player is
to be pissed about it, but hurt a little bit
more angry, and then prepare yourself in the off season, like, Okay,
I'm coming to camp and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You don't think there's some optics on trading up for
a running back?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
To who and to the team, to everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They don't care pretty much announcing that that guy is
expected to be an individual starter for it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
They don't care. Okay, they don't care. Do you think JK.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Dobbins signed as a free agent before the season last year?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Do you think he cared that R. J.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Harvey was the second round draft and relatively high second
round draft.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do you think he cared?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
He definitely did.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He didn't care.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
In fact, I asked him if he cared, and he said,
I do not care.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Confident, I'm confident in my skills. Tell the young fellow
to buckle up. That that I mean, that environment is
so steeped in like competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They they honestly, they they don't care. They'll be yeah,
who's like me asking him though? If he cares, Yeah,
he'll be like hey, JK. And you know he's gonna say,
I don't care. Welcome all of them. Yeah, we just
want guys. It'll help us get better. Bring it on.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I would.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I would if they had a running back they loved
in the second round, that would be the position I
would take in this draft. I don't know that price though,
is gonna he's the same as Tours in terms of
dropping all the way to sixty whatever it.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Is, sixty two to two. I don't I'd be surprised.
I'd be surprised if he dropped to sixty two. So
if you if you want that guy, you probably have
enough draft capital to be able to move up high enough.
You're probably evaluating, Okay, who's gonna who's looking for a
running back in the top part of the second round.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, if you want that guy, yeah, if generan
price ends up being there. That's that's a different conversation.
I just don't think there's another position. I mean, there's
certainly some of his linebackers that like, uh, get out
of Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Rodriguez like a lot, But even then the trade up there.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He's stubby.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I mean, he's a good player, but he's he's stubby. Yeah,
he's not very How.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Big is he? Let me look it up. Yeah, I'll
tell you.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
He reminds me a little bit of you on steroids.
I mean the picture though, I'm saying, how tall is he?
Maybe six foot maybe?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Or is he? Is he bigger than that? He's a
damn good player.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Six Yeah, he's six one at the combine six one
two thirty one is official measurements, Okay, and run a
four five seven forty.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's that's that's pretty good. It's just pretty good for
for inside lines. He makes a ton of plays as
he does, makes a ton of place. I mean, i'd
be listen, I'd be I'd be good with that. I mean,
that's that's a position of need as well, if if
for no other reason, just for depth, in case something
would happened either Singleton nor Stora.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What do you think about the message day they.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Don't care or not just chose to come back here. Yeah,
I mean Justin's gonna say, man, I just signed a
deal in the six million dollars deal and you draft
a guy in the second round.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, they don't, they don't care. There's a kid out
of Cincinnati. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I like him too.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
He's a good player.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, he's real good play. He's gonna he's gonna go
day two. He might even go right around that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So you wouldn't have to trade up for a guy
like him, No, more than likely.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Uh, you know, like Josiah Fronter is gonna be kind
of in that range.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think C. J.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Allen will be way gone.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Georgia trying to think Anthony Hill's probably way gone. And
so I think I think in that range you're looking
at it about like three or four guys that you
would that you would really like. I mean I think
that they all they all have different sort of size
and capabilities. That's why the whole concept of what are
you trade up for? I don't know, I feel like all.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Of these guys.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So so the only thing with the tight end is
coming back to that for a second, because after Stours
there is another drop off as far as those kinds
of tight ends, like what whatever you've viewed Tours as
the next group was to be more like third round,
fourth round and beyond like there. I don't think there's
gonna be another second round tight end. That's my point.
So if you view him as as the next tier
(30:26):
and then there's there's nothing, then just trade back, go
get one of those guys, which actually I I kind
of wonder if George Payton wants to do anyways with
that sixty two pick.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They've they've done that a lot so and.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
He's been great in the third round, hasn't he? Quinn
Minors it was the third rounder. Yeah, Baron Browning is
pretty good player.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No longer here. I'm not going to bring.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Up the tight end at the u c l A.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We we will not name no longer here Jonah else
to be determined. Really well, you're gonna move him inside.
I like that move too, You do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Why he's you got the right size and athletic ability
I think to really shine in that position. I think
that's a good a good chance to take with him.
Plus they have plenty of guys that can play on
the edge. Why not give him a shot inside.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
One thing I would say about that is that that
is a totally different world, you know, as opposed to
an edge.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I think he's a good edge player.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Maybe maybe he turns out to be a good or
really good inside backer, but it's a totally different thing
lining up four yards from a guy that weighs three
hundred and forty pounds who's trying to come out and
shorten your neck, as opposed to lining up on the
edge and having to figure out how can I pass
rush this left tackle and put some pressure on the quarterback.
(31:54):
There's just a lot more action inside, So we'll see.
But I think, you know, his brother's a good player
inside for the Patriots, so he's got you know, you
got that a little bit of DNA thing. And I
do think he's just a really good football player.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Who's the guy they moved inside for the Eagles?
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Was edge in New Orleans? The ball hit a dude
fifty three? Yeah, Yeah, I'm into the calling by fifty three? Yeah,
Zach Bond. Now, Zach Bond, I mean turned.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Out to be a player inside, right, And maybe maybe
maybe Jones, the same one.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, could be the case.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, five six nights there was a kay with
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Speaker 4 (32:39):
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