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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We had out to the Katwie Comas for health hotline
(00:02):
and bring on a very good friend of the program,
The What and Only James Palmer at James Palmer TV. James,
my friend is good to catch up with you. You're
on Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and Rick Lewis.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm good boys. How you doing? It's like, you know,
football chatter is back. Yeah, returning from vacation. Uh, you know,
let's get out there.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah that you know what that's Uh, it's it's getting
to be the perfect time of year because the weather's good,
it's nice and hot. But you know that training camp
is right around the corner. I can remember as a
player that like the last two weeks, ten days or
so before I went to camp. Honestly, I mean I
was thinking, Oh, I gotta go back to camp and
(00:42):
get that thing going again. But I want to ask
you just from a broadcasters standpoint, It's it's not really that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Way for broadcasters, right.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
There's more of an excitement level, I think for for
broadcasters than players.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
There's that and there's all right, which camps are we
going to and what do I need it hack? When
we go to Jacksonville and try to see Travis Hunter
and what he's doing in camp, Like, all right, where
are the spots we're gonna go? I guess that's kind
of the excitement, and I do think and that's one
of my favorite things of jumping on with you guys
and covering camps is what usually happens. And I've always
(01:17):
been awarded this over the last decade plus, which is
I think a nice luxury this time of year is
you watch the same players throughout all of camp when
you're on a beat and I've been on a beat
before I cover the league Ashley, and you kind of
get a little of a perspective of just that team.
When I bounce around from team to team and then
I come back to Denver, I think it actually gives
(01:37):
me an added perspective and excitement about what each team
brings because you see how different camps are are run.
You don't get to see the same guys going against
each other each and every day. I hate to say it,
but oftentimes when we watch one team or going, I
think this is gonna be really really good, and then
you go look at another camp and you go, well,
you guys aren't in the same caliber as this squad. Like, no,
maybe it's not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Do love that idea of bouncing around, And that's my
favorite part of camp in this time of year, is
getting a chance to kind of compare and contrast how
teams operate and how they look.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Hey James, Should Broncos fans be concerned at all that
their first two draft picks haven't signed yet? Or is
this just a part of the process.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, if they were the Bengals, I'd be concerned,
But no, I think this is kind of what's going on.
A couple of contracts, obviously in the second round, have
changed the way the rest of that second round has
been done. I mean, usually what happens with these type
of things is and you know, when when precedent changes
from one side or the other, and we've seen that's
what's changed a little bit with second round picks. Usually
(02:41):
there's going to be some time that takes a minute.
But no, I don't think there's any There's no there's
no pause because what's happening with you know, Harvey is
the same thing as rest around the league, and so no,
I don't think there's any there's any cause for concern
from talking to anybody, this isn't like a Schumer Stewart
situation that's going on in Cincinnati right now. It's not
of that nature. It's more kind of a commonality that's
(03:03):
happening actually with some of the other other spots around,
specifically with second round picks.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
James Palmer joining us here.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I want to ask you sort of it's a little
bit hypothetical, but it just rolled me for a second here.
Jadan Daniels, of course, was phenomenal last year. One Rookie
of the Year. He was the fifth ranth quarterback in
ESPN's top ten that just came out. I understand all
the accolades, but for a moment, if he had not
had the season he did and bo Nicks was considered
the best quarterback of last year's draft class, because I'd
(03:29):
say he's second right now pending scene more from Drake May,
Caleb Williams, and JJ McCarthy. But if he was considered
the best quarterback of that draft class, what would be
the expectation coming into this year? What would be being
said about bo Nicks and how height he'd be going
into his sophomore season.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, Ron, that's a really good question because I kind
of said this to some NFL people have had this conversation, like,
what would be the perception of Bonick if Jane Daniels
didn't have a rookie season. For the agents, essentially with
the organization and franchise, we know everything Washington has been through,
and to take that organization to an NFC championship game
and beat Detroit on your way there, Like I think
(04:09):
Moris should be on bo Nicks and maybe this and
followed you with you know, follow me now, Ryan, Like
I do think this might benefit him in some capacity.
With the way Jade Daniels played, he can go out
about his business after having a monster rookie season like
one that's very underrated considering of what Dayden went out
(04:29):
and did, considering the dead money, considering the lack of weapons,
he didn't have a Terry McLaurin. I think Courtland's a
good receiver, Terry's an outstanding receiver, and a safety blanket
and zach Ertz and some of the stuff that they had.
I think the situation that he's in in having this
success he had in his rookie season and not having
(04:50):
really the bullseye that maybe Jade Daniels does have on
him might benefit BO in a sense that where he
can go about in his sophomore year, specifically when people
like or making the rounds around the league, like he's
going to go into this year just going about his
business and growing and maybe not having as much attention
on him, And I think that actually might benefit him
(05:10):
in a sense. But I do think more people should
be talking about Bo and what he did. When I
mentioned the dead money, they were dealing with the lack
of skill guys, how he didn't turn the football over
to the athleticism that I think surprised them people in
the way he was able to move with the football.
I do think he's surprised some people around the league.
But I think the Jaden situation actually helps him heading
(05:31):
into year two a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're talking to James Palmer.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
James, we were discussing before he came on, Justin Herbert,
and here's the guy that I mean, from a physical standpoint,
He's got every single thing you look for, rocket arm,
good enough athlete, he's two hundred and forty pounds and
six mean, he can run, he can throw it, and
yet I mean hadn't won a playoff game. Yet, I
(05:55):
just wonder from a national perspective, what sort of your
best I won't say guests, but estimation in terms of
how Justin Herbert is viewed nationally as a quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It kind of is exactly this. They all know right
there that he has everything that you that you listed.
I've covered the vast majority of his battles with Patrick
Mahomes in Kansas City where they have gone toe to toe, right,
but he always comes up short when he's there in
Kansas City, and he's outplayed Patrick Mahomes at times there.
(06:34):
But what we're looking at is a results based business,
and I think you could kind of connect it a
little bit to you know, with this quarterback ranking came
out today and we're looking at guys that are you know,
probably had better seasons than Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, but none of them
are ahead of him because it's playoff wins matter, you
(06:55):
know what I mean, Like when we're all watching it,
it's nationally televised games, those things matter. Now, I've covered
a number of his games where it's not his fault
that like he takes him down the field and the
ball goes off the upright right like that happened in
Kansas City when I was there this past year, and
something else goes wrong. The perception of him is he's
right there and people almost want to see him get
(07:18):
over that hump. He leads with such a quiet manner
in that building. He's not as tough as they come
at the quarterback position. I don't think people know what
he was playing through at the beginning portion of the
season with his foot ankle situation and the respect that
he has in that building. I think everybody's just kind
of waiting, and I think that's going to be something
that Bo Knicks is going to have to deal with,
(07:39):
and every quarterback's gonna have to deal with this in
the AFC because there's still a little bit of that
judgment because of playoff football and because of the other
quarterbacks that are in this conference. It's tough to get
up near that top group. But he has the ability
to do it, and I think people are almost quietly
rooting for him to do it because of the player
he is. He just hasn't been able to put it
(07:59):
all together there. And let's be honest, that the Chargers
haven't been able to put it all together. And after
one year with Harball, I think now that ramps up
a little bit when everybody goes, Okay, that he did
that hurt in his first year, Okay, what can they
do as a team in his second year?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Hey, James. Back to the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Something that we discussed in the first hour about Marvin Mims.
I feel like the Broncos are expecting him to be
wide receiver too. I think going into training camp that's
the expectation for him. Do you think he can fill
that role?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's I think it's a that's a million dollar question, honestly,
because I hope people don't you know, dog me for
this comparison. But when we started seeing him last year
get used in these variety of roles, just trying to
get touches right, whether it's the Jets needs or putting
them in the backfield or finding ways like it really
and you guys can ask me to agree this, and
it really started to feel like the early portion of
(08:54):
Nicole Hardman in Kansas City, Like it was like find
ways to get him the football, and it's other ways
other than being a downfield receiver. Now we saw that
in the second half of the season start to come
on a little bit more. But I still think there's
that like underlying question of like just straight receiver play,
can you fill the shoes as the number two guy?
(09:15):
I think it's going to be a great competition. I mean,
not taking receiver till the third round. Who pribab is
going to be in that mix? And then you have
you know, Troy Franklin in all accounts in that building,
they believe he had a pretty good spring, and Bailey
obviously being a little banged up, but they're all competing
for touches. Marvin has a great you know second half
showing to put himself in contention, but still the manner
(09:37):
in which he's used, which is a little bit untraditional.
I'm curious if that hurts or helps him or how
does he grow off of that. To make sure everybody
in that building knows that he can do it in
the other ways, not just we have to be very
creative and think outside the box and how we use it.
Can we use it like a straight number two? Now
you might not have to write you have em and Ingram,
(09:59):
who's a as catching tight end. You still might be
able to do it and build off of it. But
I think that's the thing that everybody's curious about. It's
just the straight wide receiver part of it. How much
does he grow in year three?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, last one of your fory James, always appreciate the time,
my friend. I want to go back to that top
ten list from ESPN and I want to debate the
top four. I actually want to ask you when is
Jalen Hurts going to get his flowers? Because he was
number nine on that list. And honestly, listen, I get,
you know, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and Mahomes and
all that, but it's like, what does this guy have
to do to get the respect? And it is a
(10:30):
Philly guy, come.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
On now, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean he needs
one of those guys that we've seen him get better
each and every year. We've seen him grow each and
every year. He's a I think he's a victim of
his situation. When you have a tight end in Dallas
Goddard who talking to people around the league, guys believe this,
and many believed it, a top five tight end in
this league. And he can barely get touches because you
(10:51):
got to find ways to get it to aj Brown
and say Kwon Barkley and Devonte Smith and one of
the best offensive lines in football. I feel like that
almost hurts Jalen to some capacity. But when I look,
and we talked about this with Justin Herbert, when the
games are played on the biggest stage, he has not
failed us really ever, honestly. I mean I was at
(11:12):
both those Super Bowls against Patrick Mahomes. He out played
him in both of them. I mean he won one
or two, but he out played Mahomes in both Super Bowls.
And so when really push comes to shove on the
biggest stage, he really comes out and plays. And so
I think he is a little bit of a victim
of his situation. And they have to play offensive football
a little bit differently, and a little bit that is
(11:32):
because of the way Jalen plays the position. And whenever
you're different, I think that always makes it a little
bit tough because you look at the top four and
where was Lamar And he's got two MVPs and I
could have should have won, maybe won the third if
you wanted to this past year. So it's tough when
you played a little bit differently. And I think that
hurts Jalen a little bit. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think you're right about that, my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We look forward to seeing you out of training camp
next week.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Can't wait.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Always a pleasure, isn't it. It's a great sentence.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It brings me so much joy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
James are the best.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I'm excited. Guys.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Take it there, Thanks James, all right, James Palmer
We had out to the Katwie Comas for health hotline
(00:02):
and bring on a very good friend of the program,
The What and Only James Palmer at James Palmer TV. James,
my friend is good to catch up with you. You're
on Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and Rick Lewis.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm good boys. How you doing? It's like, you know,
football chatter is back. Yeah, returning from vacation. Uh, you know,
let's get out there.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah that you know what that's Uh, it's it's getting
to be the perfect time of year because the weather's good,
it's nice and hot. But you know that training camp
is right around the corner. I can remember as a
player that like the last two weeks, ten days or
so before I went to camp. Honestly, I mean I
was thinking, Oh, I gotta go back to camp and
(00:42):
get that thing going again. But I want to ask
you just from a broadcasters standpoint, It's it's not really that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Way for broadcasters, right.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
There's more of an excitement level, I think for for
broadcasters than players.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
There's that and there's all right, which camps are we
going to and what do I need it hack? When
we go to Jacksonville and try to see Travis Hunter
and what he's doing in camp, Like, all right, where
are the spots we're gonna go? I guess that's kind
of the excitement, and I do think and that's one
of my favorite things of jumping on with you guys
and covering camps is what usually happens. And I've always
(01:17):
been awarded this over the last decade plus, which is
I think a nice luxury this time of year is
you watch the same players throughout all of camp when
you're on a beat and I've been on a beat
before I cover the league Ashley, and you kind of
get a little of a perspective of just that team.
When I bounce around from team to team and then
I come back to Denver, I think it actually gives
(01:37):
me an added perspective and excitement about what each team
brings because you see how different camps are are run.
You don't get to see the same guys going against
each other each and every day. I hate to say it,
but oftentimes when we watch one team or going, I
think this is gonna be really really good, and then
you go look at another camp and you go, well,
you guys aren't in the same caliber as this squad. Like, no,
maybe it's not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Do love that idea of bouncing around, And that's my
favorite part of camp in this time of year, is
getting a chance to kind of compare and contrast how
teams operate and how they look.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Hey James, Should Broncos fans be concerned at all that
their first two draft picks haven't signed yet? Or is
this just a part of the process.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, if they were the Bengals, I'd be concerned,
But no, I think this is kind of what's going on.
A couple of contracts, obviously in the second round, have
changed the way the rest of that second round has
been done. I mean, usually what happens with these type
of things is and you know, when when precedent changes
from one side or the other, and we've seen that's
what's changed a little bit with second round picks. Usually
(02:41):
there's going to be some time that takes a minute.
But no, I don't think there's any There's no there's
no pause because what's happening with you know, Harvey is
the same thing as rest around the league, and so no,
I don't think there's any there's any cause for concern
from talking to anybody, this isn't like a Schumer Stewart
situation that's going on in Cincinnati right now. It's not
of that nature. It's more kind of a commonality that's
(03:03):
happening actually with some of the other other spots around,
specifically with second round picks.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
James Palmer joining us here.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I want to ask you sort of it's a little
bit hypothetical, but it just rolled me for a second here.
Jadan Daniels, of course, was phenomenal last year. One Rookie
of the Year. He was the fifth ranth quarterback in
ESPN's top ten that just came out. I understand all
the accolades, but for a moment, if he had not
had the season he did and bo Nicks was considered
the best quarterback of last year's draft class, because I'd
(03:29):
say he's second right now pending scene more from Drake May,
Caleb Williams, and JJ McCarthy. But if he was considered
the best quarterback of that draft class, what would be
the expectation coming into this year? What would be being
said about bo Nicks and how height he'd be going
into his sophomore season.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, Ron, that's a really good question because I kind
of said this to some NFL people have had this conversation, like,
what would be the perception of Bonick if Jane Daniels
didn't have a rookie season. For the agents, essentially with
the organization and franchise, we know everything Washington has been through,
and to take that organization to an NFC championship game
and beat Detroit on your way there, Like I think
(04:09):
Moris should be on bo Nicks and maybe this and
followed you with you know, follow me now, Ryan, Like
I do think this might benefit him in some capacity.
With the way Jade Daniels played, he can go out
about his business after having a monster rookie season like
one that's very underrated considering of what Dayden went out
(04:29):
and did, considering the dead money, considering the lack of weapons,
he didn't have a Terry McLaurin. I think Courtland's a
good receiver, Terry's an outstanding receiver, and a safety blanket
and zach Ertz and some of the stuff that they had.
I think the situation that he's in in having this
success he had in his rookie season and not having
(04:50):
really the bullseye that maybe Jade Daniels does have on
him might benefit BO in a sense that where he
can go about in his sophomore year, specifically when people
like or making the rounds around the league, like he's
going to go into this year just going about his
business and growing and maybe not having as much attention
on him, And I think that actually might benefit him
(05:10):
in a sense. But I do think more people should
be talking about Bo and what he did. When I
mentioned the dead money, they were dealing with the lack
of skill guys, how he didn't turn the football over
to the athleticism that I think surprised them people in
the way he was able to move with the football.
I do think he's surprised some people around the league.
But I think the Jaden situation actually helps him heading
(05:31):
into year two a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're talking to James Palmer.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
James, we were discussing before he came on, Justin Herbert,
and here's the guy that I mean, from a physical standpoint,
He's got every single thing you look for, rocket arm,
good enough athlete, he's two hundred and forty pounds and
six mean, he can run, he can throw it, and
yet I mean hadn't won a playoff game. Yet, I
(05:55):
just wonder from a national perspective, what sort of your
best I won't say guests, but estimation in terms of
how Justin Herbert is viewed nationally as a quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It kind of is exactly this. They all know right
there that he has everything that you that you listed.
I've covered the vast majority of his battles with Patrick
Mahomes in Kansas City where they have gone toe to toe, right,
but he always comes up short when he's there in
Kansas City, and he's outplayed Patrick Mahomes at times there.
(06:34):
But what we're looking at is a results based business,
and I think you could kind of connect it a
little bit to you know, with this quarterback ranking came
out today and we're looking at guys that are you know,
probably had better seasons than Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, but none of them
are ahead of him because it's playoff wins matter, you
(06:55):
know what I mean, Like when we're all watching it,
it's nationally televised games, those things matter. Now, I've covered
a number of his games where it's not his fault
that like he takes him down the field and the
ball goes off the upright right like that happened in
Kansas City when I was there this past year, and
something else goes wrong. The perception of him is he's
right there and people almost want to see him get
(07:18):
over that hump. He leads with such a quiet manner
in that building. He's not as tough as they come
at the quarterback position. I don't think people know what
he was playing through at the beginning portion of the
season with his foot ankle situation and the respect that
he has in that building. I think everybody's just kind
of waiting, and I think that's going to be something
that Bo Knicks is going to have to deal with,
(07:39):
and every quarterback's gonna have to deal with this in
the AFC because there's still a little bit of that
judgment because of playoff football and because of the other
quarterbacks that are in this conference. It's tough to get
up near that top group. But he has the ability
to do it, and I think people are almost quietly
rooting for him to do it because of the player
he is. He just hasn't been able to put it
(07:59):
all together there. And let's be honest, that the Chargers
haven't been able to put it all together. And after
one year with Harball, I think now that ramps up
a little bit when everybody goes, Okay, that he did
that hurt in his first year, Okay, what can they
do as a team in his second year?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Hey, James. Back to the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Something that we discussed in the first hour about Marvin Mims.
I feel like the Broncos are expecting him to be
wide receiver too. I think going into training camp that's
the expectation for him. Do you think he can fill
that role?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's I think it's a that's a million dollar question, honestly,
because I hope people don't you know, dog me for
this comparison. But when we started seeing him last year
get used in these variety of roles, just trying to
get touches right, whether it's the Jets needs or putting
them in the backfield or finding ways like it really
and you guys can ask me to agree this, and
it really started to feel like the early portion of
(08:54):
Nicole Hardman in Kansas City, Like it was like find
ways to get him the football, and it's other ways
other than being a downfield receiver. Now we saw that
in the second half of the season start to come
on a little bit more. But I still think there's
that like underlying question of like just straight receiver play,
can you fill the shoes as the number two guy?
(09:15):
I think it's going to be a great competition. I mean,
not taking receiver till the third round. Who pribab is
going to be in that mix? And then you have
you know, Troy Franklin in all accounts in that building,
they believe he had a pretty good spring, and Bailey
obviously being a little banged up, but they're all competing
for touches. Marvin has a great you know second half
showing to put himself in contention, but still the manner
(09:37):
in which he's used, which is a little bit untraditional.
I'm curious if that hurts or helps him or how
does he grow off of that. To make sure everybody
in that building knows that he can do it in
the other ways, not just we have to be very
creative and think outside the box and how we use it.
Can we use it like a straight number two? Now
you might not have to write you have em and Ingram,
(09:59):
who's a as catching tight end. You still might be
able to do it and build off of it. But
I think that's the thing that everybody's curious about. It's
just the straight wide receiver part of it. How much
does he grow in year three?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, last one of your fory James, always appreciate the time,
my friend. I want to go back to that top
ten list from ESPN and I want to debate the
top four. I actually want to ask you when is
Jalen Hurts going to get his flowers? Because he was
number nine on that list. And honestly, listen, I get,
you know, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and Mahomes and
all that, but it's like, what does this guy have
to do to get the respect? And it is a
(10:30):
Philly guy, come.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
On now, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean he needs
one of those guys that we've seen him get better
each and every year. We've seen him grow each and
every year. He's a I think he's a victim of
his situation. When you have a tight end in Dallas
Goddard who talking to people around the league, guys believe this,
and many believed it, a top five tight end in
this league. And he can barely get touches because you
(10:51):
got to find ways to get it to aj Brown
and say Kwon Barkley and Devonte Smith and one of
the best offensive lines in football. I feel like that
almost hurts Jalen to some capacity. But when I look,
and we talked about this with Justin Herbert, when the
games are played on the biggest stage, he has not
failed us really ever, honestly. I mean I was at
(11:12):
both those Super Bowls against Patrick Mahomes. He out played
him in both of them. I mean he won one
or two, but he out played Mahomes in both Super Bowls.
And so when really push comes to shove on the
biggest stage, he really comes out and plays. And so
I think he is a little bit of a victim
of his situation. And they have to play offensive football
a little bit differently, and a little bit that is
(11:32):
because of the way Jalen plays the position. And whenever
you're different, I think that always makes it a little
bit tough because you look at the top four and
where was Lamar And he's got two MVPs and I
could have should have won, maybe won the third if
you wanted to this past year. So it's tough when
you played a little bit differently. And I think that
hurts Jalen a little bit. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think you're right about that, my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We look forward to seeing you out of training camp
next week.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Can't wait.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Always a pleasure, isn't it. It's a great sentence.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It brings me so much joy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
James are the best.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I'm excited. Guys.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Take it there, Thanks James, all right, James Palmer
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