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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And why there would Shelby Harrison Studio with us. What's up?
Shell Man?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's going on? Fellows? How y'all doing all right?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:05):
Weather's a little sketchy out there, Dave, what do you
think we send you either about the weather or about
what just whatever you want to say? But I could
we can send you out there?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Were supposed to get rain? Four?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Is that it okay?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I would say that somebody is getting rain maybe
a little bit earlier. Somebody is getting ready in the
maybe southwest part of Denver, maybe the southeast part. Also,
we used to.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Do a weather check like right off the top of
the show every single day show this is oh did
we really?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How's the weather?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That? He?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What you meant? Like? We used to do like a
legitimate like cut in for weather.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I mean, it wouldn't be surprising on this station. But
I remember that if there's money in.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It, well we both know.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
He so Shelby for the moment, just for the moment
as guest host. Here, how's the weather outside?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You know, it looks a little gloomy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Definitely looks a little gloomy, but it seems like, seriously,
I'm a little slimmer, says Shelby.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Will be blinking soon. Yeah, says guy D like did
you just did you? Did you just just?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes? I did.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's a little bloomy outside, A little gloomy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Looks like it might be some understorms on the horizon,
a little humidity out there.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Make sure you uh hydrate out there. Nice? Nice, you
got the future?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, absolutely, nail that.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I used to love watching the weather man and was
like growing up, really do it because he made it
like interesting and he you know, he dropped facts about
weather while he was doing the weather forecast, so that
was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You've got a lot of layers, more than you know, brother. Yeah,
you want to be a professional singer, professional singer, Well,
he's thinking of your shower recorded.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If I recorded a professional I think it does well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Nowadays you can record anything. So no, that does not
make you a professional.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
One professional singer in the studio.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's true, Mason. No, I just kidding you. Mason.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well you know Ryan, you know Brian you were in
a band.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I did get paid to do it for a while,
but no, I do not.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Actually I would pay. I wouldn't pay, but I would
I want to listen to a song. If you did,
I do too, because I have yet to. Yes, yes, yeah,
we have to. No, I've not heard any of your work.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's good, We're great, we're friends.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Did you cover a lot of stuff? Was it original?
Don't forget if you if you had to pick one
song that you knew, excuse me that you guys covered,
what would it be?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
We we covered the Dave Matthew stuff some you know,
it was like the nineties Marianna, Yes, Gar, Backstreet Boys,
I can't hit those notes, man, Befray. That was that
was kind of after our time. So it was like,
you know, so the match Bucks twenty yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't even think I know a single song by them.
I took my daughter to see them at Fiddler's Green.
I would say, how long ago? Was it long enough
that I was like, oh boy, oh boy, I might
not win the Dad of the Dad of the Week
award on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
What was the deal? Language?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I saw them like twenty years ago, but I liked them.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, but you know, yeah, I went to Blink one
I think last year on purpose. Well, I went for
my wife. I knew one song.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Likes Blink one eight two.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yes, yes, you know why you say that so surprisingly
because it's there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I saw a poll on CNN and she was one
of three black women that liked Blink one eighty two. Well,
luckily my wife's a white woman. Well then now it
makes more sense to me. Now it makes now, it
makes more makes more sense. I'm just saying, so now
we have to identify what three African American women like.
(04:33):
That's the beauty of the show. So I feel like
I was right. A phoo, don't for I was wrong. No,
I don't think I was wrong on that thing. Yeah,
I just hadn't met your wife. Oh yeah, you guys
have never.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Member I never met it. Are you ashamed of us?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Don't answer that. Don't answer that. Well, I just don't
think she likes This is like plural. If you're gonna
answer that, you're gonna answered a singular sort of response.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I would not embarrass you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You would wear flannels, so you would have embarrassment. What
is that flannel today?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
It is cold outside? That outside, I tell great, we
were sitting in the studio. I was glad if we're
in the flannels. Freezing in here there. Let me check
outside well again, eighty six it is.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It is a little chilly.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, you know, I don't have some circulation problems like
at the end, I might need to get a check
up here. I'm just saying, like I'm always cold. This
this feels natural to me.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I've got nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, you know. How did you like the game last night?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All Star Game? It's fun? Yeah, I didn't. I didn't
watch every single pitch. I thought the Kershaw thing was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Come out and they had a micd you know, and
he was really he was good at playing along with it.
And then then he has one one hitter and strikes
him out, and it was just I mean, it was
a cool moment for a guy that I think is
going to retire at the end of the season. He's
a Hall of Fame pitcher for sure. Let's see what
(06:07):
else stood out. You know. The American League had had
so dominated the series recently. I think they'd won twelve
to thirteen, and then Nationally kicked out, made it twelve
or fifteen. So there hit six nothing the National League.
I said, Okay, finally it's going to happen. Then all
of a sudden, it's like six six. I mean honestly,
when it was six four, I started watching one of
(06:31):
the series of Sopranos, and then it was like sixty six.
I'm like, what what is going on here? So I
thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Spread is brilliant, by the way, an excellent, excellent choice.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We're now back into season four.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I've actually never watched. I knew you were going to
say somebody, I knew you. I think that'd be a
good one to start. Yeah, how long are the episodes?
Fifty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
About?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's worth it?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You got time? Yeah, I mean you shouldn't be doing
anything except working out and watching the Sopranos getting ready
for training real yeah, pretty much. No, but dude, that
that All Star Game was awesome. It was your Caucasian wife. Yes, Caucasian,
and that makes chick. That's right. They're like, well, no, now,
how old? Well my kids?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, we got eighteen, nine six and four.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, the nine, six and four would not would not
appreciate the soprano. I don't think they need eighteen year
ol would love it. There's a challenging language. And then
they do kill a bunch of people. Well, that's a
good show.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A big description of the show, really.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There, but brilliantly written. I think it was one of
the all time great series. Bryan.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
You know what my favorite part of the All Star
Game was. It kind of was the Clayton Kershaw part.
But it was funny when mostly was like throw a cutter,
and I was like, I don't throw you, I don't
throw a cutter, and this is mid wind up's throw
a cutter. What are you looking? Yeah, And that's just
that's what baseball needs. It's more like, you know, just
(08:00):
like we're talking about in golf, how they're trying to
give more transparenonality. They wanted, they wanted to be more interesting.
And also Baseball did a good job with the pitch
clock short in the games. But then also that little
insight right there with Kershaw. I thought that was awesome.
But then I think the start a show was to
home run Derby at the end, I want.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
To get to that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
The other thing that I thought was a really cool
high point was the Hank Aaron tribute that they did.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Although I thought it was cool, but the shot that
they had was like from a plane.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He was way high up.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
But when they had the home run that he hit
with the firework, Oh my gosh, man, chills right, absolute chills.
It was incredible. But yeah, the swing off for the win. Man,
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you know before the game started that if the
All Star Game were to be tied after nine innings,
they would go to the swing off?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Had no idea my clue.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Happy. I was happy. I saw it because I was
alive and also I'm from Milwaukee. The All Star Game
ended in a tie. Don't forget about that one. It
was I forgot about it. Yeah, the commissioners said, hey,
that's it. Yeah, I remember that because obviously it was like,
all right, Milwaukee. Finally it's something like it gets to
host something, and of course it ends terribly.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, nobody wants ties. That's why he hates Well, amazing
that frats Honestly, what do you see meat?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But back to the swing off, I thought, I thought
that was tremendous, and I mean again, we talked. Finally,
I was right about one thing. I wasn't right about
our guy Hunter Goodman. You had an error in the game.
But the guy who shows up late, Kyle Schwarber hitting
three home runs.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's the guy that wins the NV.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The swing off, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That's the guy that wins the MVP. That was always
happens this way. It's like, not somebody that does really
well early, Hey, great couple of shutout innings, they're Paul Schemes. No, no, no, no,
It'll be way late in the game and then somebody
does something miraculous. But I tell you what, man, I
don't know an MLB probably won't have this happen anytime soon,
but would you trade the swing off for extra innings
(10:06):
just a few years from now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Extra indans in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Season, regular season baseball? I don't come on, man, see, but.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Like that kind of gives the unfair advantage to these
big market teams of the Dodgers the Yankees that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Have all this power in their lineup, and then profession
the managers. Maybe you let the managers pick the three
guys to hit the opposite the opposite that'd be cool,
the opposite.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Manager, that would be cool.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But dude, I just remember not swar When Swarber came
up to I remember, I turned my wife. I said,
this is going to be if they win or lose,
it's going to be all because of mis swarbur.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But they had to pick them out ahead of time,
so like that's that. That is one thing. John Hammon
came after the fact that everybody's.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Like, well, why didn't you roll Aaron Judge and Shoe
Haotani out there? First?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Of all those guys had left the building. They were gone.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I don't think people actually realized that, because I didn't
know that until I saw one of the MLB guys
tweeted out later that pretty much all like when you
get pulled early, those guys leave and just go home
in the middle of the game. Yeah, I had no
clue that I thought you just would stay for the
whole game. But he said this has been happening for
years that once you get pulled as all right, guys,
(11:16):
it's my vacation.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm out of here. I'll see you guys on Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I light to Mexico's leaving now an hour from now.
You get on that plane. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
It's not to say that I don't like the current
setup because I am a big fan of the Runner
on second I know old seamheads don't tend to like
the runner on second extra innings thing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We're doing right now. I actually actually enjoy that because
anything to kind of speed up the game.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
But man, that was so exciting last night. It's not
gonna happen tomorrow. But I could see Rob Manfred at
some point as they continue to try to tweak baseball
and make it more accessible for younger fans. I could
absolutely see what Rob Manfred is saying. Man, we might
have something with this swing off thing. You know, what
do you guys think? And of course it'll get I
(11:59):
could see it being talked about. Yeah, for sure, it's.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Definitely going to put you people are going to hope
for more Thai games in that case, That's.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Like to get to a swing off now again, Dave,
I thought that was an interesting wrinkle where you get
to pick the opponents.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That would be cuse.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But but again, you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Know, even then, it's like most of these guys they
could do that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And can you imagine a course field, a swing off
a course field?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Come on, now, that's just you know, great job MLB
for coming up with something innovative. Yes, this is what
reinvents the game. This is kind of what brings new
interest into the game because I tell you this, My
four year old son was locked in right, really, my
four year old son was locked in watching it because
my four year old and my nine year old son
(12:46):
loved baseball. They played baseball. They love baseball, and so
from a young age, like they all they both are like,
oh yeah, baseball, it is. I don't even necessarily know
if I'm I haven't played football that he can play. Honest, really,
it's time. In this day and age, football is kind
of the last sport, the last resort for your kids.
(13:07):
Because you play baseball, there's no risk risk of head injuries.
You play basketball, there's really no risk of head injuries.
Like it's the other sports you can play where you
can still you know, be dominant and not risk your
body as much as you're doing football. But they're still
going to play. But I want them to focus. But
(13:29):
that's the thing. Football you're not going to play until
I don't want you to play until you're ten, yeah, eleven, twelve,
Like this is in Texas where I'm throwing my kid
in at four years old, you know what I mean?
But like baseball, yeah, basketball, yeah, ye three years old?
Four years old?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
God play, I don't know, Dave, I mean you've been
coaching for so long. Is there is there an age
that you think that that's probably the appropriate time for
most people to consider putting their kids into football. Certainly,
we've learned more about head injuries and head trauma than
we have ever really in the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know why Shelby thinks that football players are more likely
to be to be injured. No, I think the ages
is completely up to the parents, I really do. Yeah,
you know, I think and if you put your kids
into football early. I'm not a huge proponent of tackle
(14:22):
football really early. I think I started when I was eight,
eight or nine. But you got nowadays. I mean it
used to be back where you just sign up for
a team and then go take your son to practice,
maybe watch part of practice, and then let the coaches
coach them. I think, I think now you've got to
(14:45):
be real, real intentional that that your son at the
age of let's just say nine, is is being coached
by those little league coaches that share a similar mindset,
share a similar frame of mind to you in terms
of really how you're going to teach these young guys
(15:08):
to play football, right, We're not going to get into
the Oklahoma drills, which we all have done. The game
is the game has really changed and they need to
be taught the proper way to do things. And then
you don't need you know, you don't need to bang
like all the time in practice and full go and
(15:29):
taking receivers and backs down to the ground. You just
you just don't need to. But you do need to
practice at a temple. And I don't know, but if
this applies to nine year olds, I've never coached nine
year olds. You do need to practice at a temple
where they they see the speed of the game. And
then fundamentally so they're what we call thud they're they're
(15:49):
fundamentally sound in how they tackle. We're just not taking
guys to the ground.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, But I think that's the biggest issue though, is
the coaching of youth, of any youth sport, honestly, but
like especially in football though, because there is such you know,
you can get hurt so easily in the game of football,
that the issue is that these new youth coaches, a
lot of them don't know what the hell they're talking about.
(16:16):
They just see what they see on TV. And say
all right, let's go hit.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Would you coach them?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No, I would, I would help. I'm just I don't
have the patience for kids like I could do high
school kids, but like for like you know, I think
like eight year old, nine year old I could try.
I guess never say never. But the biggest thing is
that you have to learn, like they said, learn the
game the right way, because now your head is so important.
(16:44):
Your brain is so important, it's such a valuable part
obviously of your body. It needs to be done the
right way. But if a lot of these coaches though,
you know, they just don't know what they're doing. They're
guys who played in high school and have these dreams
that they should have played.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
In the league. And now it's like, all right, I'm
gonna put you to drills that I should have been
put through, but you don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I think that's all fair.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And we we've talked about this before about just the
way the game is being coached. It's come a long way,
I mean from things that you've told me, like, it's
come a long way from the way it used to
be coached. But you know, there's still room to learn
and especially for the younger kids. And you talk about
the trauma that you have an eight year old, you know,
want an eight year old scrambling their brain that early.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So I think that that makes sense. That tracks man.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I I would say for you, at least my experience
in this is that you know, maybe you consider coaching
because it seems like more people doing it the right
way is probably the direction it needs to go.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, you know that is you do have a point.
And that's why you know Dave is so successful where
he's at is when you have a guy there that
has done it before. He knows the ends and out
and the ways it's supposed to be done the way
it's not supposed to be done, you know what I mean.
And sports in general is a way of getting these
kids ready or life life lessons.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's that's the key, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What I mean, Like, that's what sports is all about,
is how to work in the team. You're going to
be around people from different walks of life, and you've
got to work together to figure out everyone has the
same common goal. And clearly it's not what life is
all about. So that's why I'm any sports you choose
to do you know, it's it's always bigger than the sport.
It's all about the camaraderie, the team, the team. That's
(18:26):
what If you ask any NFL player, any pro athlete
that's retired, the one thing they're going to say they
miss the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Team, the locker room. That and that's what sports are
is about.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
But to the point that you made, and I know
that you would agree with this, Dave, is there are
a lot of team sports. There's a lot of sports
that can sort of teach a lot of those things.
And so yeah, if they love baseball soccer, I mean
I don't to me, you never.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think you create opportunity and never force a young
guy or nowadays young girl to play a sport because
you want them to play that sport right of plenty
of other sports, plenty of sports to play. But I
do think that getting into a team sport at an
early age, as Shelby just said, benefits young people in
(19:19):
a really good overcoming diversity. Being able to take constructive criticism,
learning to play as a team, learning that it's not
about you, it's about us, it's we not me. I
mean all sorts of things that I think serve you
well as you get past your playing days whenever that
time comes, and then you get out into the real
(19:41):
world and you've got to figure out, all right, how
do I work with this group and how do we
accomplish what we need to? All right?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Rough rolling here on a Wednesday five six six nine
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that it's raining hard in Woodland Park. That'll help you
with your weather report a little bit later on there, Shelby.
We'll keep working on.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 4 (19:57):
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Speaker 1 (20:14):
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Speaker 2 (20:16):
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Speaker 1 (20:23):
Don't google that, by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No, yeah, google it on Ryan's Man.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I when I when I think of Blink one two,
and I like some of their stuff, not all of
their stuff, but I but I like him a little bit.
I mean, I think mainly that demographic I would think
is white. Right, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You wouldn't be wrong because when I was at that concert, yeah,
you know, it's like the Coco pebble and the milk.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, imagine it's the fact that you were like six
five six six. I mean that probably.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
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Speaker 1 (21:07):
Alone because what's up? Man? He's like, don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Just and another guy He's like, I'm here with my girls.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
That me too. Yeah, I got here and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We had a great text seven one nine four three nine.
I played lessons that I learned in team sports every
day to my family, to the people I've worked with,
to my time in the military, even my time building
a crew now as a pilot nice.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So I completely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know, there's no question everything that we learned in sports,
you know, you can apply all those lessons into real life.
And and that's that's why we do.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It for thank you for your service, by the way,
to the text here as well, we appreciate that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So last night, other than the.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Home run derby not homer jury, the All Star Game
was followed by the swing off barn signs his contract
with the Broncos. So that's so, that is great news
because the rookies reported today R. J. Harvey. Of course,
in a lot of the second rounders, in fact, almost
all of the second rounders still have not.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got their deals done.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
And now that leaves just one first rounder, Shamar Stewarts
with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Here we are again, Dave.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
A month ago we were talking about Shamar Stewart and like,
what is going to happen here? There's I don't know,
legitimate or otherwise threats out there that he may just
sit out and go back into the draft.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's actually as of yesterday, back at College Station, Yes,
and so correct. There's speculation in College Station, by the way,
is the home town of Texas A and M, where
he played college football. So there's speculation that he may
go back to Texas A and M and play. Here's
where I think here's why I think that won't happen.
(22:47):
I think the league behind the scenes will step in
and call the Bengals. Now, They've got to do it
the right way because the Bengals run the Bengals, and
technically the league office works for all thirty two owners,
(23:07):
including Mike Brown of the Bengals. That said, though I
think they will point out to him, Hey, listen, Mike,
if there's any way we can help you get this done,
we'd like to do that, because here's what we don't
want to do. In today's time, with social media and
nil and players coming into the league, some with a
(23:32):
lot of money, we don't want to create the first time.
I think it would be the first time where somebody
is drafted high in the first round and they say,
I'm not going to do that. I'm going back to
school and come in again next year. Because if we
(23:53):
don't get him signed into the Bengals, then that's going
to be a press setting maneuver that we do not
want to become a typical maneuver. And it could be
where in the past we all came into the league
pretty much broke, and so you try to negotiate for
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as much money as you can, but it's like, here's
your money, and ultimately it's like, all right, I'll take
that because we didn't have any money. But now these
cats come in, some of them with plenty of money,
the millionaires. Yeah, and so if they say, like I'm
drafted by a team I don't want to go to
or things don't work out at I'll go back to school,
and that create to me, that creates havoc or the
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potential of havoc in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's it's not a good thing for the league that
a first round pick, and also that the Cincinnati Bengals are,
which is already has this history of being stingy with contracts,
really not being a player friendly team in the first
place that they're trying. They are trying to set a
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precedent with this player on his deal that none of
the other first round draft picks have in their deal.
So but the issue is, just like Dave said, these
players are coming in with money. Now, I don't know
how this will work.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't I.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Don't necessarily understand how it will work. With him going
back to textaing to them, I don't think we'll be
able to play.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So he will not.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So that's one thing I will say that that been Albright,
our insider here.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
He tweeted this out yesterday.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He said Stuart would be ineligible to play for Texas
aing them, but he can go back and take classes,
sit out a year, and re enter the draft. So
you can go back there, hang out at Texas A
and M.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And that's where the Nio movie comes.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There's no guarantees gonna be a first round pick. Highly
doubt you will be a first round ball. I don't know, man,
I'm telling you, sitting out a year football is it's
really hard to do and then come back and be
a dominant But different when you're you know, you get hurt.
I'm not saying to not play this game for a year,
that's hard to come back. Obviously, nowadays you have more trainers,
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but there's nothing like the real speed of the game.
But still, the Cincinnati Bengals should really be ashamed of
themselves because they're trying to conduct.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Dirty business right now. And see that's where the league
I think can step in and as long as I mean,
they've got to be careful how they have that conversation.
Even though they're the NFL still technically they work for
Mike Brown, but they have to, you know, they've got
to be able to step in and try to move
them a little bit and have a conversation like, listen,
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we're trying to help you here. Let me give you
some ideas that I think would be of benefit to you,
and tell me what you think bounce these off your people,
But I think lines of communication are going to get opened,
if not already, very quickly.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm not saying you're wrong about him potentially not being
a first round where we don't really know at this point.
I think some of it has to do with what
the relative depth of the position maybe is and what
other teams thought of Shamar Stewart coming into the draft process,
what grade they sort of had on him, And we
don't really know that because he was taking it with nineteen.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think by nineteen, yeah, I think it was right there.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And I think that was actually part of the hold
up of Jade Barn's contract is they wanted to see
it was right in front of the Broncos, so they
wanted to see what he ended up nothing for. But
and even though it's all slotted, that still has to
get done.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But that's where I pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Is because if the depth of the edge rushing group
or the outside linebacker group coming into this next year's
draft is not never relatively deep, he could go top ten,
Like it's not impossible if teams out there thought he
was that guy and they and again he was more
of the lump of Clay like he was a raw talent.
He didn't have a ton of sack raw talent. This
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is a year football well, he don't work out.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Literally, that's the worst thing for him technically as a
football player. If you're a raw talent, you need reps.
So taking a year off is the last thing you
really need. Now, granted, I get it, you got to
stand up on something. You know they're trying to give
you a deal that nobody else has. I understand that.
I'm not saying he's not doing the right thing. I'm
just saying, don't be surprised if doing the right thing
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ends up backfiring on you later and now you're a
second third round pick, your whole contract isn't guaranteed, and
now you're fighting for your NFL life after two years.
Say it used to be back in the day if
you were drafted.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And I mean I remember even back in the late seventies,
you were drafted and you tried to leverage I don't know,
playing in the NBA or whatever, the team that drafted
you still held your rights. Now, Bennett said something about
like Stewart would go back into the draft and be
eligible to be picked by another team. So they have changed.
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I don't know when they changed that, but that's been changed.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, he said that he would be ineligible to play
for Texas A and M again.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, no, I'm talking about next year. Let's say he went
back and he last showed cows for a year, Ben
saying he could go into the draft and another team
could draft him.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So that means the league changed their rules. I just
I didn't know about it. This one caller, just in
one texter. It's like, what if I were Cincinnati, I
would draft him again the next year, and obviously I
wouldn't be surprised that they They probably would do something
like that, and then you'd be in the same predicament
that you're in again.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Can you imagine, Look.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Like, obviously these teams are that petty. This is what
these teams will do. They're trying to ruin you. They're
trying to run you down because you don't want to
do what we ask you to do.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Then we'll just ruin you.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I guess, as I understand something that getting kind
of compensatory anything.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh, they lose their first round pick, and so is
that really what you want to do when you're in
a position you're trying to be, you know, competitive, trying
to win the Super Bowl. You have all the pieces
in Joe Burrow, Jamal, Chase T Higgins. Now you have
issues with Trey Henderson and Schmart Switt. So you literally
don't have edges. So good luck in this.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
League and go on you Dave Logan for looking this up.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
So it is a thing now that the guys can
make the decision to go back to the draft the
next year if they basically can't get a deal done
with a team. Fascinating precedent and the other parts that
you've looked up that we found out is the team
that drafted him in the first place cannot take them
the next year around. So when we talk about setting
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precedents here, this is a massive, massive deal for the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
They got to get this thing done.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well. All they did was pretty much paved the way
for these new age quarterbacks when they're coming out. If
you don't like the team that's about to draft you, hey,
I already got ten million of my bank acount mine
as well. Just wait, I don't have to play. I
can just wait till next year. That's a crazy precedent
that the Bengals unintentionally just set like all these other
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like these agents, these quarterbacks, the arch Mannings, all these
guys are sitting here like, okay, that's very interesting. So
I could just not play and then the team I
don't want to play for can't even draft me the
next year. Now it opens up a whole new playbook
on player team relationship. You actually, like just just like
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before when we saw Eli not want to go to
the Chargers and he went to the Giants. You now,
these new age players have a lot more say than
they did before.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, the leverage is wild. Yeah, it's it's why I think.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The league will pressure is the wrong word, but strongly
suggests to Mike Brown and the Bengals, you got to
find a way to get this done. If you have
to take a couple things out of that contract and
that ensures he's going to sign come to camp. My suggestion,
mister Brown from the league would be that you go
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ahead and do that, because I mean, Shelby's right, especially
with quarterbacks. You know, it's you don't want this to
be the first time because then it's out there an
agents and players can see it and they will use
it to their advantage if they think that it's the
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right thing to do for their client.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Pandora's box is open, and now you don't know what
for a while, but now this has opened up a
whole different game.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I never knew what the hell that was. I think
I heard that first heard that saying like in high school,
maybe you know you're opening Pandora's box. I couldn't figure
out who the hell Pandora was? What do you think right?
I mean I wanted to act like I knew yea, yeah,
And I think it was a cod I mean I
think it was a coach. You know, you're you're opening
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Pandora's box, and I'm like, I didn't know whether to
say no, I'm not, or like, yep, and I'm proud
of it. I didn't know. I didn't know how to
respond to it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Thank you couldn't figure.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Out who Pandora was, Miss Pandora.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I guess we'll have to gts. Yeah, mythology. I thought
it was a mythology thing, like, I mean, you know
you know what it's used as? Is like if once
you open it you can't know what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been living under a rock my whole life with
me somebody out there there's like, I don't know what
that means either, exactly if there's anybody out there listening
to this show that it's the saying was said to you, hey,
you know what you're opening Pandora's box that literally did
not know what the person was trying The point they
were trying to convey please textas will not kill you
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five six six nine zero.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He will tell you where I just looked this up.
The saying opening Pandora's Box comes from Greek mythology. It
refers to the story of Pandora, the first woman, who
was giving a box or jar Bayazoo's with strict instructions
not to open it. Look at that driven she she
disobeyed and released all the evils and miseries of the
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world upon him.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You know what stands the reason
And why there would Shelby Harrison Studio with us. What's up?
Shell Man?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's going on? Fellows? How y'all doing all right?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:05):
Weather's a little sketchy out there, Dave, what do you
think we send you either about the weather or about
what just whatever you want to say? But I could
we can send you out there?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Were supposed to get rain? Four?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Is that it okay?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I would say that somebody is getting rain maybe
a little bit earlier. Somebody is getting ready in the
maybe southwest part of Denver, maybe the southeast part. Also,
we used to.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Do a weather check like right off the top of
the show every single day show this is oh did
we really?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How's the weather?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That? He?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What you meant? Like? We used to do like a
legitimate like cut in for weather.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I mean, it wouldn't be surprising on this station. But
I remember that if there's money in.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It, well we both know.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
He so Shelby for the moment, just for the moment
as guest host. Here, how's the weather outside?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You know, it looks a little gloomy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Definitely looks a little gloomy, but it seems like, seriously,
I'm a little slimmer, says Shelby.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Will be blinking soon. Yeah, says guy D like did
you just did you? Did you just just?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes? I did.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's a little bloomy outside, A little gloomy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Looks like it might be some understorms on the horizon,
a little humidity out there.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Make sure you uh hydrate out there. Nice? Nice, you
got the future?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, absolutely, nail that.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I used to love watching the weather man and was
like growing up, really do it because he made it
like interesting and he you know, he dropped facts about
weather while he was doing the weather forecast, so that
was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You've got a lot of layers, more than you know, brother. Yeah,
you want to be a professional singer, professional singer, Well,
he's thinking of your shower recorded.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If I recorded a professional I think it does well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Nowadays you can record anything. So no, that does not
make you a professional.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
One professional singer in the studio.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's true, Mason. No, I just kidding you. Mason.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well you know Ryan, you know Brian you were in
a band.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I did get paid to do it for a while,
but no, I do not.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Actually I would pay. I wouldn't pay, but I would
I want to listen to a song. If you did,
I do too, because I have yet to. Yes, yes, yeah,
we have to. No, I've not heard any of your work.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's good, We're great, we're friends.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Did you cover a lot of stuff? Was it original?
Don't forget if you if you had to pick one
song that you knew, excuse me that you guys covered,
what would it be?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
We we covered the Dave Matthew stuff some you know,
it was like the nineties Marianna, Yes, Gar, Backstreet Boys,
I can't hit those notes, man, Befray. That was that
was kind of after our time. So it was like,
you know, so the match Bucks twenty yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't even think I know a single song by them.
I took my daughter to see them at Fiddler's Green.
I would say, how long ago? Was it long enough
that I was like, oh boy, oh boy, I might
not win the Dad of the Dad of the Week
award on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
What was the deal? Language?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I saw them like twenty years ago, but I liked them.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, but you know, yeah, I went to Blink one
I think last year on purpose. Well, I went for
my wife. I knew one song.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Likes Blink one eight two.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yes, yes, you know why you say that so surprisingly
because it's there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I saw a poll on CNN and she was one
of three black women that liked Blink one eighty two. Well,
luckily my wife's a white woman. Well then now it
makes more sense to me. Now it makes now, it
makes more makes more sense. I'm just saying, so now
we have to identify what three African American women like.
(04:33):
That's the beauty of the show. So I feel like
I was right. A phoo, don't for I was wrong. No,
I don't think I was wrong on that thing. Yeah,
I just hadn't met your wife. Oh yeah, you guys
have never.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Member I never met it. Are you ashamed of us?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Don't answer that. Don't answer that. Well, I just don't
think she likes This is like plural. If you're gonna
answer that, you're gonna answered a singular sort of response.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I would not embarrass you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You would wear flannels, so you would have embarrassment. What
is that flannel today?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
It is cold outside? That outside, I tell great, we
were sitting in the studio. I was glad if we're
in the flannels. Freezing in here there. Let me check
outside well again, eighty six it is.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It is a little chilly.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, you know, I don't have some circulation problems like
at the end, I might need to get a check
up here. I'm just saying, like I'm always cold. This
this feels natural to me.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I've got nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, you know. How did you like the game last night?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All Star Game? It's fun? Yeah, I didn't. I didn't
watch every single pitch. I thought the Kershaw thing was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Come out and they had a micd you know, and
he was really he was good at playing along with it.
And then then he has one one hitter and strikes
him out, and it was just I mean, it was
a cool moment for a guy that I think is
going to retire at the end of the season. He's
a Hall of Fame pitcher for sure. Let's see what
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else stood out. You know. The American League had had
so dominated the series recently. I think they'd won twelve
to thirteen, and then Nationally kicked out, made it twelve
or fifteen. So there hit six nothing the National League.
I said, Okay, finally it's going to happen. Then all
of a sudden, it's like six six. I mean honestly,
when it was six four, I started watching one of
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the series of Sopranos, and then it was like sixty six.
I'm like, what what is going on here? So I
thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Spread is brilliant, by the way, an excellent, excellent choice.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We're now back into season four.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I've actually never watched. I knew you were going to
say somebody, I knew you. I think that'd be a
good one to start. Yeah, how long are the episodes?
Fifty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
About?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's worth it?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You got time? Yeah, I mean you shouldn't be doing
anything except working out and watching the Sopranos getting ready
for training real yeah, pretty much. No, but dude, that
that All Star Game was awesome. It was your Caucasian wife. Yes, Caucasian,
and that makes chick. That's right. They're like, well, no, now,
how old? Well my kids?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, we got eighteen, nine six and four.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, the nine, six and four would not would not
appreciate the soprano. I don't think they need eighteen year
ol would love it. There's a challenging language. And then
they do kill a bunch of people. Well, that's a
good show.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A big description of the show, really.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There, but brilliantly written. I think it was one of
the all time great series. Bryan.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
You know what my favorite part of the All Star
Game was. It kind of was the Clayton Kershaw part.
But it was funny when mostly was like throw a cutter,
and I was like, I don't throw you, I don't
throw a cutter, and this is mid wind up's throw
a cutter. What are you looking? Yeah, And that's just
that's what baseball needs. It's more like, you know, just
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like we're talking about in golf, how they're trying to
give more transparenonality. They wanted, they wanted to be more interesting.
And also Baseball did a good job with the pitch
clock short in the games. But then also that little
insight right there with Kershaw. I thought that was awesome.
But then I think the start a show was to
home run Derby at the end, I want.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
To get to that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
The other thing that I thought was a really cool
high point was the Hank Aaron tribute that they did.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Although I thought it was cool, but the shot that
they had was like from a plane.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He was way high up.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
But when they had the home run that he hit
with the firework, Oh my gosh, man, chills right, absolute chills.
It was incredible. But yeah, the swing off for the win. Man,
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you know before the game started that if the
All Star Game were to be tied after nine innings,
they would go to the swing off?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Had no idea my clue.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Happy. I was happy. I saw it because I was
alive and also I'm from Milwaukee. The All Star Game
ended in a tie. Don't forget about that one. It
was I forgot about it. Yeah, the commissioners said, hey,
that's it. Yeah, I remember that because obviously it was like,
all right, Milwaukee. Finally it's something like it gets to
host something, and of course it ends terribly.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, nobody wants ties. That's why he hates Well, amazing
that frats Honestly, what do you see meat?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But back to the swing off, I thought, I thought
that was tremendous, and I mean again, we talked. Finally,
I was right about one thing. I wasn't right about
our guy Hunter Goodman. You had an error in the game.
But the guy who shows up late, Kyle Schwarber hitting
three home runs.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's the guy that wins the NV.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The swing off, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That's the guy that wins the MVP. That was always
happens this way. It's like, not somebody that does really
well early, Hey, great couple of shutout innings, they're Paul Schemes. No, no, no, no,
It'll be way late in the game and then somebody
does something miraculous. But I tell you what, man, I
don't know an MLB probably won't have this happen anytime soon,
but would you trade the swing off for extra innings
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just a few years from now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Extra indans in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Season, regular season baseball? I don't come on, man, see, but.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Like that kind of gives the unfair advantage to these
big market teams of the Dodgers the Yankees that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Have all this power in their lineup, and then profession
the managers. Maybe you let the managers pick the three
guys to hit the opposite the opposite that'd be cool,
the opposite.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Manager, that would be cool.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But dude, I just remember not swar When Swarber came
up to I remember, I turned my wife. I said,
this is going to be if they win or lose,
it's going to be all because of mis swarbur.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But they had to pick them out ahead of time,
so like that's that. That is one thing. John Hammon
came after the fact that everybody's.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Like, well, why didn't you roll Aaron Judge and Shoe
Haotani out there? First?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Of all those guys had left the building. They were gone.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I don't think people actually realized that, because I didn't
know that until I saw one of the MLB guys
tweeted out later that pretty much all like when you
get pulled early, those guys leave and just go home
in the middle of the game. Yeah, I had no
clue that I thought you just would stay for the
whole game. But he said this has been happening for
years that once you get pulled as all right, guys,
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it's my vacation.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm out of here. I'll see you guys on Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I light to Mexico's leaving now an hour from now.
You get on that plane. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
It's not to say that I don't like the current
setup because I am a big fan of the Runner
on second I know old seamheads don't tend to like
the runner on second extra innings thing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We're doing right now. I actually actually enjoy that because
anything to kind of speed up the game.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
But man, that was so exciting last night. It's not
gonna happen tomorrow. But I could see Rob Manfred at
some point as they continue to try to tweak baseball
and make it more accessible for younger fans. I could
absolutely see what Rob Manfred is saying. Man, we might
have something with this swing off thing. You know, what
do you guys think? And of course it'll get I
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could see it being talked about. Yeah, for sure, it's.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Definitely going to put you people are going to hope
for more Thai games in that case, That's.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Like to get to a swing off now again, Dave,
I thought that was an interesting wrinkle where you get
to pick the opponents.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That would be cuse.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But but again, you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Know, even then, it's like most of these guys they
could do that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And can you imagine a course field, a swing off
a course field?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Come on, now, that's just you know, great job MLB
for coming up with something innovative. Yes, this is what
reinvents the game. This is kind of what brings new
interest into the game because I tell you this, My
four year old son was locked in right, really, my
four year old son was locked in watching it because
my four year old and my nine year old son
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loved baseball. They played baseball. They love baseball, and so
from a young age, like they all they both are like,
oh yeah, baseball, it is. I don't even necessarily know
if I'm I haven't played football that he can play. Honest, really,
it's time. In this day and age, football is kind
of the last sport, the last resort for your kids.
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Because you play baseball, there's no risk risk of head injuries.
You play basketball, there's really no risk of head injuries.
Like it's the other sports you can play where you
can still you know, be dominant and not risk your
body as much as you're doing football. But they're still
going to play. But I want them to focus. But
(13:29):
that's the thing. Football you're not going to play until
I don't want you to play until you're ten, yeah, eleven, twelve,
Like this is in Texas where I'm throwing my kid
in at four years old, you know what I mean?
But like baseball, yeah, basketball, yeah, ye three years old?
Four years old?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
God play, I don't know, Dave, I mean you've been
coaching for so long. Is there is there an age
that you think that that's probably the appropriate time for
most people to consider putting their kids into football. Certainly,
we've learned more about head injuries and head trauma than
we have ever really in the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know why Shelby thinks that football players are more likely
to be to be injured. No, I think the ages
is completely up to the parents, I really do. Yeah,
you know, I think and if you put your kids
into football early. I'm not a huge proponent of tackle
(14:22):
football really early. I think I started when I was eight,
eight or nine. But you got nowadays. I mean it
used to be back where you just sign up for
a team and then go take your son to practice,
maybe watch part of practice, and then let the coaches
coach them. I think, I think now you've got to
(14:45):
be real, real intentional that that your son at the
age of let's just say nine, is is being coached
by those little league coaches that share a similar mindset,
share a similar frame of mind to you in terms
of really how you're going to teach these young guys
(15:08):
to play football, right, We're not going to get into
the Oklahoma drills, which we all have done. The game
is the game has really changed and they need to
be taught the proper way to do things. And then
you don't need you know, you don't need to bang
like all the time in practice and full go and
(15:29):
taking receivers and backs down to the ground. You just
you just don't need to. But you do need to
practice at a temple. And I don't know, but if
this applies to nine year olds, I've never coached nine
year olds. You do need to practice at a temple
where they they see the speed of the game. And
then fundamentally so they're what we call thud they're they're
(15:49):
fundamentally sound in how they tackle. We're just not taking
guys to the ground.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, But I think that's the biggest issue though, is
the coaching of youth, of any youth sport, honestly, but
like especially in football though, because there is such you know,
you can get hurt so easily in the game of football,
that the issue is that these new youth coaches, a
lot of them don't know what the hell they're talking about.
(16:16):
They just see what they see on TV. And say
all right, let's go hit.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Would you coach them?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No, I would, I would help. I'm just I don't
have the patience for kids like I could do high
school kids, but like for like you know, I think
like eight year old, nine year old I could try.
I guess never say never. But the biggest thing is
that you have to learn, like they said, learn the
game the right way, because now your head is so important.
(16:44):
Your brain is so important, it's such a valuable part
obviously of your body. It needs to be done the
right way. But if a lot of these coaches though,
you know, they just don't know what they're doing. They're
guys who played in high school and have these dreams
that they should have played.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
In the league. And now it's like, all right, I'm
gonna put you to drills that I should have been
put through, but you don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I think that's all fair.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And we we've talked about this before about just the
way the game is being coached. It's come a long way,
I mean from things that you've told me, like, it's
come a long way from the way it used to
be coached. But you know, there's still room to learn
and especially for the younger kids. And you talk about
the trauma that you have an eight year old, you know,
want an eight year old scrambling their brain that early.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So I think that that makes sense. That tracks man.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I I would say for you, at least my experience
in this is that you know, maybe you consider coaching
because it seems like more people doing it the right
way is probably the direction it needs to go.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, you know that is you do have a point.
And that's why you know Dave is so successful where
he's at is when you have a guy there that
has done it before. He knows the ends and out
and the ways it's supposed to be done the way
it's not supposed to be done, you know what I mean.
And sports in general is a way of getting these
kids ready or life life lessons.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's that's the key, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What I mean, Like, that's what sports is all about,
is how to work in the team. You're going to
be around people from different walks of life, and you've
got to work together to figure out everyone has the
same common goal. And clearly it's not what life is
all about. So that's why I'm any sports you choose
to do you know, it's it's always bigger than the sport.
It's all about the camaraderie, the team, the team. That's
(18:26):
what If you ask any NFL player, any pro athlete
that's retired, the one thing they're going to say they
miss the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Team, the locker room. That and that's what sports are
is about.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
But to the point that you made, and I know
that you would agree with this, Dave, is there are
a lot of team sports. There's a lot of sports
that can sort of teach a lot of those things.
And so yeah, if they love baseball soccer, I mean
I don't to me, you never.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think you create opportunity and never force a young
guy or nowadays young girl to play a sport because
you want them to play that sport right of plenty
of other sports, plenty of sports to play. But I
do think that getting into a team sport at an
early age, as Shelby just said, benefits young people in
(19:19):
a really good overcoming diversity. Being able to take constructive criticism,
learning to play as a team, learning that it's not
about you, it's about us, it's we not me. I
mean all sorts of things that I think serve you
well as you get past your playing days whenever that
time comes, and then you get out into the real
(19:41):
world and you've got to figure out, all right, how
do I work with this group and how do we
accomplish what we need to? All right?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
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Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 2 (20:16):
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Speaker 3 (20:24):
No, yeah, google it on Ryan's Man.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I when I when I think of Blink one two,
and I like some of their stuff, not all of
their stuff, but I but I like him a little bit.
I mean, I think mainly that demographic I would think
is white. Right, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You wouldn't be wrong because when I was at that concert, yeah,
you know, it's like the Coco pebble and the milk.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, imagine it's the fact that you were like six
five six six. I mean that probably.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh but then like you see another blacky, we're not.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Alone because what's up? Man? He's like, don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Just and another guy He's like, I'm here with my girls.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
That me too. Yeah, I got here and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We had a great text seven one nine four three nine.
I played lessons that I learned in team sports every
day to my family, to the people I've worked with,
to my time in the military, even my time building
a crew now as a pilot nice.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So I completely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know, there's no question everything that we learned in sports,
you know, you can apply all those lessons into real life.
And and that's that's why we do.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It for thank you for your service, by the way,
to the text here as well, we appreciate that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So last night, other than the.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Home run derby not homer jury, the All Star Game
was followed by the swing off barn signs his contract
with the Broncos. So that's so, that is great news
because the rookies reported today R. J. Harvey. Of course,
in a lot of the second rounders, in fact, almost
all of the second rounders still have not.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got their deals done.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
And now that leaves just one first rounder, Shamar Stewarts
with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Here we are again, Dave.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
A month ago we were talking about Shamar Stewart and like,
what is going to happen here? There's I don't know,
legitimate or otherwise threats out there that he may just
sit out and go back into the draft.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's actually as of yesterday, back at College Station, Yes,
and so correct. There's speculation in College Station, by the way,
is the home town of Texas A and M, where
he played college football. So there's speculation that he may
go back to Texas A and M and play. Here's
where I think here's why I think that won't happen.
(22:47):
I think the league behind the scenes will step in
and call the Bengals. Now, They've got to do it
the right way because the Bengals run the Bengals, and
technically the league office works for all thirty two owners,
(23:07):
including Mike Brown of the Bengals. That said, though I
think they will point out to him, Hey, listen, Mike,
if there's any way we can help you get this done,
we'd like to do that, because here's what we don't
want to do. In today's time, with social media and
nil and players coming into the league, some with a
(23:32):
lot of money, we don't want to create the first time.
I think it would be the first time where somebody
is drafted high in the first round and they say,
I'm not going to do that. I'm going back to
school and come in again next year. Because if we
(23:53):
don't get him signed into the Bengals, then that's going
to be a press setting maneuver that we do not
want to become a typical maneuver. And it could be
where in the past we all came into the league
pretty much broke, and so you try to negotiate for
(24:15):
as much money as you can, but it's like, here's
your money, and ultimately it's like, all right, I'll take
that because we didn't have any money. But now these
cats come in, some of them with plenty of money,
the millionaires. Yeah, and so if they say, like I'm
drafted by a team I don't want to go to
or things don't work out at I'll go back to school,
and that create to me, that creates havoc or the
(24:36):
potential of havoc in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's it's not a good thing for the league that
a first round pick, and also that the Cincinnati Bengals are,
which is already has this history of being stingy with contracts,
really not being a player friendly team in the first
place that they're trying. They are trying to set a
(25:01):
precedent with this player on his deal that none of
the other first round draft picks have in their deal.
So but the issue is, just like Dave said, these
players are coming in with money. Now, I don't know
how this will work.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't I.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Don't necessarily understand how it will work. With him going
back to textaing to them, I don't think we'll be
able to play.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So he will not.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So that's one thing I will say that that been Albright,
our insider here.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
He tweeted this out yesterday.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He said Stuart would be ineligible to play for Texas
aing them, but he can go back and take classes,
sit out a year, and re enter the draft. So
you can go back there, hang out at Texas A
and M.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And that's where the Nio movie comes.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There's no guarantees gonna be a first round pick. Highly
doubt you will be a first round ball. I don't know, man,
I'm telling you, sitting out a year football is it's
really hard to do and then come back and be
a dominant But different when you're you know, you get hurt.
I'm not saying to not play this game for a year,
that's hard to come back. Obviously, nowadays you have more trainers,
(26:05):
but there's nothing like the real speed of the game.
But still, the Cincinnati Bengals should really be ashamed of
themselves because they're trying to conduct.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Dirty business right now. And see that's where the league
I think can step in and as long as I mean,
they've got to be careful how they have that conversation.
Even though they're the NFL still technically they work for
Mike Brown, but they have to, you know, they've got
to be able to step in and try to move
them a little bit and have a conversation like, listen,
(26:34):
we're trying to help you here. Let me give you
some ideas that I think would be of benefit to you,
and tell me what you think bounce these off your people,
But I think lines of communication are going to get opened,
if not already, very quickly.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm not saying you're wrong about him potentially not being
a first round where we don't really know at this point.
I think some of it has to do with what
the relative depth of the position maybe is and what
other teams thought of Shamar Stewart coming into the draft process,
what grade they sort of had on him, And we
don't really know that because he was taking it with nineteen.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think by nineteen, yeah, I think it was right there.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And I think that was actually part of the hold
up of Jade Barn's contract is they wanted to see
it was right in front of the Broncos, so they
wanted to see what he ended up nothing for. But
and even though it's all slotted, that still has to
get done.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But that's where I pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Is because if the depth of the edge rushing group
or the outside linebacker group coming into this next year's
draft is not never relatively deep, he could go top ten,
Like it's not impossible if teams out there thought he
was that guy and they and again he was more
of the lump of Clay like he was a raw talent.
He didn't have a ton of sack raw talent. This
(27:43):
is a year football well, he don't work out.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Literally, that's the worst thing for him technically as a
football player. If you're a raw talent, you need reps.
So taking a year off is the last thing you
really need. Now, granted, I get it, you got to
stand up on something. You know they're trying to give
you a deal that nobody else has. I understand that.
I'm not saying he's not doing the right thing. I'm
just saying, don't be surprised if doing the right thing
(28:11):
ends up backfiring on you later and now you're a
second third round pick, your whole contract isn't guaranteed, and
now you're fighting for your NFL life after two years.
Say it used to be back in the day if
you were drafted.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And I mean I remember even back in the late seventies,
you were drafted and you tried to leverage I don't know,
playing in the NBA or whatever, the team that drafted
you still held your rights. Now, Bennett said something about
like Stewart would go back into the draft and be
eligible to be picked by another team. So they have changed.
(28:51):
I don't know when they changed that, but that's been changed.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, he said that he would be ineligible to play
for Texas A and M again.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, no, I'm talking about next year. Let's say he went
back and he last showed cows for a year, Ben
saying he could go into the draft and another team
could draft him.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So that means the league changed their rules. I just
I didn't know about it. This one caller, just in
one texter. It's like, what if I were Cincinnati, I
would draft him again the next year, and obviously I
wouldn't be surprised that they They probably would do something
like that, and then you'd be in the same predicament
that you're in again.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Can you imagine, Look.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Like, obviously these teams are that petty. This is what
these teams will do. They're trying to ruin you. They're
trying to run you down because you don't want to
do what we ask you to do.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Then we'll just ruin you.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I guess, as I understand something that getting kind
of compensatory anything.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh, they lose their first round pick, and so is
that really what you want to do when you're in
a position you're trying to be, you know, competitive, trying
to win the Super Bowl. You have all the pieces
in Joe Burrow, Jamal, Chase T Higgins. Now you have
issues with Trey Henderson and Schmart Switt. So you literally
don't have edges. So good luck in this.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
League and go on you Dave Logan for looking this up.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
So it is a thing now that the guys can
make the decision to go back to the draft the
next year if they basically can't get a deal done
with a team. Fascinating precedent and the other parts that
you've looked up that we found out is the team
that drafted him in the first place cannot take them
the next year around. So when we talk about setting
(30:32):
precedents here, this is a massive, massive deal for the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
They got to get this thing done.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well. All they did was pretty much paved the way
for these new age quarterbacks when they're coming out. If
you don't like the team that's about to draft you, hey,
I already got ten million of my bank acount mine
as well. Just wait, I don't have to play. I
can just wait till next year. That's a crazy precedent
that the Bengals unintentionally just set like all these other
(31:02):
like these agents, these quarterbacks, the arch Mannings, all these
guys are sitting here like, okay, that's very interesting. So
I could just not play and then the team I
don't want to play for can't even draft me the
next year. Now it opens up a whole new playbook
on player team relationship. You actually, like just just like
(31:22):
before when we saw Eli not want to go to
the Chargers and he went to the Giants. You now,
these new age players have a lot more say than
they did before.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, the leverage is wild. Yeah, it's it's why I think.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The league will pressure is the wrong word, but strongly
suggests to Mike Brown and the Bengals, you got to
find a way to get this done. If you have
to take a couple things out of that contract and
that ensures he's going to sign come to camp. My suggestion,
mister Brown from the league would be that you go
(31:59):
ahead and do that, because I mean, Shelby's right, especially
with quarterbacks. You know, it's you don't want this to
be the first time because then it's out there an
agents and players can see it and they will use
it to their advantage if they think that it's the
(32:19):
right thing to do for their client.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Pandora's box is open, and now you don't know what
for a while, but now this has opened up a
whole different game.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I never knew what the hell that was. I think
I heard that first heard that saying like in high school,
maybe you know you're opening Pandora's box. I couldn't figure
out who the hell Pandora was? What do you think right?
I mean I wanted to act like I knew yea, yeah,
And I think it was a cod I mean I
think it was a coach. You know, you're you're opening
(32:51):
Pandora's box, and I'm like, I didn't know whether to
say no, I'm not, or like, yep, and I'm proud
of it. I didn't know. I didn't know how to
respond to it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Thank you couldn't figure.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Out who Pandora was, Miss Pandora.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I guess we'll have to gts. Yeah, mythology. I thought
it was a mythology thing, like, I mean, you know
you know what it's used as? Is like if once
you open it you can't know what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been living under a rock my whole life with
me somebody out there there's like, I don't know what
that means either, exactly if there's anybody out there listening
to this show that it's the saying was said to you, hey,
you know what you're opening Pandora's box that literally did
not know what the person was trying The point they
were trying to convey please textas will not kill you
(33:40):
five six six nine zero.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He will tell you where I just looked this up.
The saying opening Pandora's Box comes from Greek mythology. It
refers to the story of Pandora, the first woman, who
was giving a box or jar Bayazoo's with strict instructions
not to open it. Look at that driven she she
disobeyed and released all the evils and miseries of the
(34:03):
world upon him.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You know what stands the reason
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