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July 18, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Everybody, welcome to it, and we're excited to be here
with you. Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and Nick Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Nick?

Speaker 4 (00:07):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (00:07):
Man?

Speaker 4 (00:08):
You have that Chester Cat smile on your face? Is
this something I don't know? You want to ask me?

Speaker 5 (00:16):
I do have something I want to ask you. First
of all, how are you I'm doing spectacle. That's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yes, your cars?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, that's a whole Okay, all right, sorry, I started
really quickly.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I started here, and then I realized something isn't right,
and I didn't want to have.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Issues with my breaks on a highway.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's important, yeah, and breaks are important.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, So I didn't want to try to Fred Flintstone
a damn thing. So I decided to go back home
and have my wife shut me off.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh okay, you didn't just like drive it into a shop,
you know.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I drove it back into my garage and said, hurry up.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's what David ever had to Fred Flintstone in a car.
That's not something I've ever experienced.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
But well, no, but I used to watch yeah, Bred
Flintstone a lot, absolutely, and you know the feet, you know,
you know, from a coaching standpoint, you say, it's got
good feet feet gets into and out.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Of his car in a really good way. Who's the
coach that used to yell fee feet fee feet feet
feet You can name ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, I'm sure there's one though that was here with
the Broncos that.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Would holler feet feet feet feet.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, the stink used to talk about him.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I can't remember all Alice Gibbs his Gibbs.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, that would have been one of the one of
the more benign things that the great Alex Gibbs.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
However, here's the thing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I've heard Alex Gibbs say a lot of things all
of us I can'try, you know, say here, but I've
never heard that one.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah. I mean, and you know, I might be wrong,
but I just remember him him doing telling my story
about that. But anyways, yes, Fred Flinn's don't great feet
well known for that part. People talk about it nearly enough.
We're excited to be here with you. So yeah, the
chech cat smile thing. I've been following along.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
With the NFLPA this week. Yeah, and as you discovered, well,
I have some questions.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And of course, you know, great timing, not so much
for Lloyd how but great timing last night when he
decided to step down from his position of leadership with
the NFLPA, and then we find out today about strip
club expenses. Oh yeah, so you know, I tell you what, man,

(02:41):
I mean, I can lay off the timeline, but I
would just love to get your cursory thoughts on what
the hell is going on with the NFLPA and their
leadership right now.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's in a total diss ray, and I think everyone
is asking those questions. I mean, I feel a lot
of fun. I've talked to a lot of people before
we jumped on I looked at my phone. There was
some broadcaster asking to try to set up a kind
of interview with me for Monday. And I've had other

(03:13):
broadcasters who well respected that I've had interactions with on
DM and I'll just kind of keep those conversations to myself.
But everyone's asking the question, what the hell how do
we get here? And there's a number of things to
try to explain it to a lot of individuals. But

(03:33):
I always felt that Howell was never the right person,
and for me, I never advocate for anyone to get fired.
But as it pertains to me and my NFL brothers.
We need someone who really understands what we're going through
and can really help move things along. And when I
found out, like everyone found out, I thank god for

(03:55):
Pablo too.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I don't know how he found this information.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Where he was dumpster diving, but even ESPN full let
a network, when Pablo first came out with this, they
didn't test the story, I know, until Pablo was on
with Mike Florio correct.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Then it became a thing.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then now these narratives are being placed out in Fortnite.
Network is putting things out as though oh they were
ahead of the curve and they were on top of
the story. So there's a lot of things that are
going on that I'm not satisfied with, and there are
other guys who are not happy with the current leadership
in a direction that they're going. So I'm trying to

(04:37):
keep things in perspective and not really say everything I
want to say, because as a former player, I'm frustrated
as hell.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So Dave, yesterday, we found out and we didn't get
a chance to get to it during the show, but
we found out the JC tretder through Pablo Tory that guy.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
JC Tretder also part of the NFLPA leadership, was encouraged
had encouraged running backs to fake injuries as part of
their contract negotiations. So that was again, that was a
bombshell by hisself on the heels of the collision case
stuff that happened a few weeks ago that we sort
of been talking about for quite a while. And then today,
of course, the last night Lloyd how the executive director,

(05:15):
steps down. Today we find out that he was using
NFLPA funds to fund multiple as in two strip club
appearances and this is under the guise of player engagement
event to support and grow our union.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
That's the quote. I would say, that's probably an accurate
description of what took place.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
What a mass, dude, I mean, it's what a mess. Yeah,
I'd love.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
To tell you that I think this is the first
time that something like that has happened.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
In the NFLPA, just like I would like to tell
you it's.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
First time I think any sort of collusion has happened
between the owners. I said at the time that the
story allegedly broke about the collusion. This is all about nothing.
What's going to happen from this nothing. How long is
this going to stay like in the forefront of our minds,

(06:21):
even for us to do shows like this not very long.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Training Stars, that story is gonna gonna go away.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
And now that he's gone, and I really, I've got
to be honest about it, I didn't I didn't know
a lot about him, uh the union.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I think.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I would question the union's leadership, dating all the way back,
even when Gene Upshaw was the union leader and Jane
was a contemporary played in the league about the same
time that I did. I got along with you, be
fine personally. I thought there were two or three or

(07:03):
three or four things that he literally sold the union
completely down the river about, and I disagreed with those,
But you know what, that's that's part of shall we say,
union politics. You're not going to agree with everything, but
what you have to do is support. You've got to

(07:23):
support the union leadership because the leadership represents the constituents
and that happens to be us, the players.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Now.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know, for the last probably ten years or so,
I haven't really paid much attention to the NFL Union,
to the NFL PA because I you know, I've already
seen that movie. I already know how things are gonna
you know, I know the ending.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
The popcorn is good.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I'm just gonna go ahead and get the hot pretzel
and put a little mustard on it and enjoy it,
and I might even take a snooze, and then when
the movie ends, wake me up and I'll walk to them.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
You're hot mustard over the cheese dipping sauce.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Hot mustard. Okay, I'm not cheese dipping sauce.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
In fact, the movies last night, and I went with
the cheese dipping sauce with the hot pretzel.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
A nice okay, okay, nice.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
As long as you don't use caso like right wrong?
I mean, yeah, Caso doesn't go with.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Everything, everything Claudi.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Everything does.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm tied this back and we will get back on
track of prompts.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
But what I'm tying this back.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
To is the dozens of tiktoks my wife sends me
every day telling me how many things are killing me.
Things that I thought for the longest time we're good
now killing me.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
She's trying, she's trying to help you. Hopefully you listen
to your wife. That's my suggestion.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I do, but I tell her I've got to be
in the right frame of mind frame well, because what
happens is she'll send me tiktoks of kittens and and
that's great, and that puts me in a good mood.
And then and then all of a sudden, in the
midst of all that, she'll just so slide this one
in here and like and by the way, you shouldn't
use a neo sporn anymore because it's basically like poison.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Basically, she's trying to set out to make sure that
you're paying attention. Did you know that, Dave Neil spoorn
is like really bad for you?

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Now?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Did not?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I did not either, So who says that TikTok? Really?
So what's what? Like, what's wrong with it? You know,
is that the chemicals, the nis foreign.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
The worst part is he said I should listen to
my wife. I do listen to my wife, but.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I didn't listen on this case to that was roby.
My wife told you, Nei sporn is bad. I cannot
use it because I went I went to go use
it on the kids. She's like, don't don't use nea'sporn.
We can't use that anymore. I was like, really, really,
Neil sporn. So here, here's the deal. Let's let's we again.
We've got a really good audience.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I've described them before as eclectic five six six nine zero.
Somebody text us or more, you know, a couple text
like what's the deal with neo sporn.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, Philliston is some seed oils? Because I know seed
oils and not good for you. So it's oils and
neil sporn. Maybe I needed seed oils? See oil, isn't
I good for you? I understand what you said. What's
wrong with them? The origin of seed.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oils where they would use for large you know, I
guess mechanisms to like machinery like in factories.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
And if someone felt like, you know, we seed like that,
see like sunflower. Well there are like you don't want
to cook with?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yes, but oh yeah yeah, those oils are now being
put into certain food items like like chips.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
My kids get upset with oh yeah yeah, yeah, no,
you're gonna go to the supermarket. I'm always reading you're
right on that.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yes, So I gts just for fun because we're here.
Neo Spoorn's ingredients carrious carry serious risks of overgrowth and
antibiotic resistant bacteria.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
You didn't listen to your wife.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well that's why I have Google, but you didn't Google
all these years.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Put neosporn on when you get a cut.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, I've been at risk for overgrowth of what antibiotic?
Antibiotic resistant bacteria? You're putting bacteria in that wound.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
So should I then need an antibiotic. I'm putting bacteria
in the wound that is resistant to that antibiotic.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, here's what I would submit to all these people.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I know.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
I'm just going to say, you know, for everybody that
actually believes this. So maybe it's true.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I don't know. But how many times do you watch
a commercial.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
There are so many drug commercials on TV nowadays, and
at the end of the commercial is a disclaimer. Ostensibly
these commercials are trying to sell us that we should
use the product, and then they run, as Nick said,
like a I don't know, ten second, twelve second disclaimer,

(11:48):
and they talk about everything this possibly could cause.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I tell you, I mean, one I think gets to
the point where it talks about diarrhea and then it
mentions ed, I'm saying I'm out if I'm taking anything
and has our.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Disease, You're good. But diarrhea and ed you ain't going
down that road. I get it. I'm gonna have it.
Whatever I'm dealing with, I'm gonna have to fight through it.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I get it. Yes, the sextuors have chimed in, are they?
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And by the way, polysporn for
the first texture of this session. That's exactly right. That's
why my wife told me. Now we use polysporing.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh, now you remember what your wife tones? Well, though
she told me that part, I'm sorry. I hadn't gotten
there yet.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I was still stuck on basically forty years of my
life using something and realizing that it was putting back area.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, it was just not good. Seven two o four
to six seven.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Neosporn basically triple antibiotic ointment has been around for decades.
It's always worked for our family and everybody else's family
always used it. Don't know where she's getting info from,
but I don't believe it, and I'll still use it
to this day. Uh three h three nine nine one
fake news. But here's another one though, uh seven two

(12:55):
two nine one overuse of antibiotics. UH seven one to
nine four seven Oh, Neosporin can create antibiotic resistance, and
it's also been shown slow healing.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
So we're getting we're getting both both sides. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well, and somebody says, you know, using TikTok source information
is about choice, Lisa, I my wife.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I said that more flippantly. It's certainly we don't. I
don't live my life that way.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
My wife does not live our life where we're like, hey,
if TikTok says it, it's more of like the running
joke of Hey, the Internet told me this.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
No, that's you. I know it's your life. I know
it's not her.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I memb her last last night at the show Lovely Person.
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(13:51):
far two three nine?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Is that really?

Speaker 5 (13:54):
It's Mandy? You guys are killing me. Neo sporn doesn't
put back to area on your wound. It leads to
the new use of antibiotic resistant back to her. You know, man,
you listen, nobody, nobody around here loves.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
You more than me.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
But you're like one of my friends. You know a
little about a lot of things, and that you know what,
and that serves people well. And I'm exactly like you.
I know a little about a lot. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna trust her on that.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, Well, I mean that's that's consistent with what Google said,
the rise of antibiotic resists.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
In bacteria three oh three, three or four. Dang, guys.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
The next thing you're gonna tell me is I shouldn't
drink out.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Of the garden host Well you shouldn't. You should should
even I would say, don't do that summer.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, that was the highlight.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know, your thirsty. You turn on the faucet and
to speak it and the water comes out like that.
That first taste, it's like, what is that rubbery taste? No,
I don't worry about to just keep drinking.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's kind of how he grew up. And here we are.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yes, I don't know people who said you chew bogum
that other people have chewed.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
By the way, wait wait, wait, wait, do you you're
not certainly gonna let that go?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
I was always saying to tell people that have shoot
bubble gum that other people are chooting. You're gonna say,
and by the way, let's talk a little bit about
the rocky.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well know who choo. I'm not saying because when you're
a kid, you just said, but I'm gonna tell you who.
But I don't need to know who. You're a king,
I guarantee a lot. I guarantee you they had a nickname.
Probably I'm gonna tell you. But I'm just saying, when
you're younger, you do a lot of things and it
hadn't killed us.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yet, so you know, but you have this like weird
twitch with your eye.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You don't. I've been in mine tell you for years.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Might have something to do with.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Leading with his helmet, leading with your hat when you
tackle us.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Like, I'm not offended. I just think you're winking at
me all the time.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
That's all. Well, maybe I'm saying hello, you could be yes,
could be Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
By the way, that the whole gum thing that sounded
like asking for a friend or mentioned, is this a
little close to home?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
No, No, listen, I know a lot of kids who
did a lot of different things. I know, I know
a kid who ate glue? Right, I do too. I
didn't judge you. I did too. I didn't judge you
at all. Like this, That's why I pour whiskey on
my wounds.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
That's good. That's how you do. Rub some dirt on it.
It's like Marshall Dylon. That's how we grew up. The
dirt on it. You'll be okay. My coaches said, let
me spin on it. I'm sorry, what really?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, no, yah? That is I thought you were going
to use that excuses. So why you didn't play football?

Speaker 5 (16:38):
You went out the first practice and coach said, you
heard come here, let me like eh, And that was
the end of your football career right there.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yes, that was the turn off. I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It was in the fact that everybody was bigger, strongger,
and faster than me.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
It was can you sort of nimbly head down the stairs?
You got a little bit of athletic ability.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
That's very nice of you to say, Dave, but that's
not true. Probably not true. Golf course, you should race
Steve Atwater. Steve was over the age of fifty.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
What was that story? Did you beat him?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I got so.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
No, I told you that in confidence, but but we
have shared it on the air. We share, we share
our life story with our friend insurant fans.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
No, I've shared this before with with because Ben loves
to tell the story.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So we at the combine. So you don't think Ben's
already told this story.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, okay, because Ben, Yeah, we are at the combine
and this is when you see the show with him
over in orange blue, and he was complaining about a
knee pain. And this is sounds bad, like I took
advantage of a guy that was complaining about knee paint.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's right, this sounds like.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
But anyways, I said, I said, I think I could
beat you at forty. Now, this is Steve adwar or
not Man, the Hall of Famer Steve Atwee.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, And I was wearing bad shoes that day.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
And I was caring. Of course, I care my bags.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah right, you knowlannel flannel, but you know for wind resists. Yeah,
it's not good. Yeah uh he he basically back pedaled.
So you said I think I can beat you in
the forty and he's like, you have no chance. He's like,
let's go now, let's so he calls you out right there.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
He just kind of like eyeballed it.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
And he also ran in Penny loafers and he ran
he ran like Penny loafers. Yeah, it was not would
story again it was ever, it was so bad, it
was so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Was it was it a close? Was it a photo finish?

Speaker 6 (18:27):
No?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
No, like like I gave up, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I you quit, But I mean I got to the end,
but I but I got like halfway to the finish line,
and it was like I.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Couldn't see him anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
He had.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Like road you were sure that you haven't run the
wrong way? Where to go? They know you out those situations.
The hamster right could have done that. Yeah, I've done that.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well, I mean you get in years after words, I say, well,
I was wearing boots and he's wearing pitty loafers. I
don't think the boots thing is gonna work.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Well, you know what we could do. We can go
and we visit the sense he had on boots and
he had on flanno. I don't think we can kind
of do this again.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
You could dress him up seriously in an astronaut suit
if you were wearing Pitty loafers.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Ryan's supposed to be in the race.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
What was that movie with like Roberts Andiro and QB.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Gooding Junior when they used to deep dive down and like,
I don't know, do you remember that one where they
I can't remember what it's called, but anyways, they used
to wear these heavy metal like.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be wearing that when you ran. That's
what it felt like. Yeah, it felt like I was
in that and he was and couldn't even see him.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
In a Yeah, here's the team. Now Ryan's in better
shape than he was at that time. That is true,
so we could we could do this again for charity.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Like what I'm asking for a friend? What exactly do
you mean he's in better shape?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Me?

Speaker 4 (19:59):
I mean ways less? Ways less? So you are? You
are down. You lost a bunch of weight.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
So if you lose a bunch of weight, if you
lose in Ryan's case, like I don't know, like a
second grader, it's like, so does that automatically? And I'm asking,
does that mean you're in better shape?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, it does, it does definition wise, but doesn't make
you more athletic.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
So you're in better shape? Okay, better shape like, fat
dudes can't ever be in good shape.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Well, I don't know they can if they lose. I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Offensive lineman was the waistline. What about offensive lineman and
defensive linemen?

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Those you call them fat?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm saying they're big and they're athletic, and they're athletic
and they're really not fat. I mean, you're you're calling
Quinn Minors fat.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Oh my god, oh my god, are you serious? What
was he husky? What's he got the valley for? Yes,
he's strong as an Well, that's true, but that's not
what we're talking about, Dave. So now you calling him
fat too, I'm calling him husky. How do you call
him fat? That's a different a bro husky to a
white dude fast. I'm looking forward to when we interview. Yeah,

(21:20):
you're gonna be like really fat. Here comes the fat guy.
Quinn Minor is gonna sit down with Ryan.

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Speaker 1 (21:42):
A couple of nights ago about that, because we saw
Steve coming in and.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Read you BCT.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I was like, yeah, you know, one time raced him
and I led with I was writing checks with my
mouth that my body could not cash, which sometimes happens
to everybody that isn't a nick speak for yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
See. The whole idea is that you have to know
your limitations.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, right, and sometimes you know these things, these mics
we have in our front of our face.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Some people go too far right, So that's the case
of you're going too far.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
A little too far, yes, but but I enjoyed the
story and I just visualize what it looks like.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
But I still think that we need to do over.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, so you keep trying to talk me into some
kind of media combine.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
It's never gonna happen for me.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Now you can get Ben and you can get to
Mario and a couple other people that they'll absolutely do that.
I would be happy to watch. I will be happy
to support it. Well, I don't want the media come by,
but I've been I've been plenty embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Listen, I don't I don't need the media company. Well
I did at one point until I heard the story
about you and Steve. So so you know we're gonna
be at training camp as though we always are every
single year. I mean wants the fans and even the
players leave. I mean that's prime real estate on natural crash.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
You're good. Getting dusted is one thing. I don't want
to tear my achilles in front of the media. Exactly. Well,
the media is going to be there. It can just
be me at water, Dave and Ryan.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
How's there going to be no media at the media combined.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Well, that's what I'm saying. It's not. This is not
the media Combini's just Steve and Ryan. We actually we're
actually going to see another race.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, we're not going to see another race. You need
to let this go, like the NFLPA has let go
of any kind of organizational possibilities.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I did have a friend of mine, by the way,
that instead of using neo sporn on his hands when
he had like a cut, he would pee on him
and seemed to work. And you know what, he's lived
a good life and still alive able to dance. I
heard piano was.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Good for you know if you got like stung glad jellyfish.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Have you ever peed on your hand? I mean purposely?
I know there was that other day in the last room,
but I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Have you ever? Have you ever? But he's standing in
the stall next to me? Oh, come on? Am I
lying anyway?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
You're I mean you're stretching.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Were you not in the stall next to me?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
I was in the stall and then you were in
the the Whatever the did I not walk into the
stall right next to you? That happen? Thank you so much.
I'm gonna leave it at that. See now, I'm gonna
leave it now. You know what You've lost my hands?
I did not.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
I asked you, young Ryan, if you had ever peed
on your hands? Like if you're out in yes, like hiking.
I'm not sure you've ever hiked. But if you are
out there hiking and you have a cut, they do
tell you that if you pee on your cut, it helps.
I don't know if it sanitizes, but it helps seal
the cut.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Fascinating.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, I've heard that you know glue on the wound
to sail there, but never you take glue when you hike.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
No, I'm just saying, I mean, I know I've watched
boxing before. Do you hike? What do I hip? I'm
not a hiker either, I'm African American. Do a hike?
Well the answer to that's no, the same answer for me, yes,
Well what why? Why? Why do you not hike?

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Man?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Black people don't hike. That's not what we do. That's
a fact.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
We have cookouts to the wet They got some cookouts,
so you know what, I hate to.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Say, I'm with them.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I'm just saying much much more comfortable so cookout than
up the mountain.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
So the fail member was to say, hey, let's go
for a hike.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You'd be like are you are you the police? Like
what is going on here?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I would like you think they were high?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, when I'm high, it's like are they trying to
take me out to the woolves and just kind of
dismiss me.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's the first thing.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
The first thig goes to your head first, not like hey,
a nature walks downs really nice.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Maybe we could go do that.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
What kind of shoes do you wear when you hike?
Ryan tis shoes? Well that just tells me you're not
really a hiker. I didn't say I was a real hiker.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
No, I'm just saying I would I have gone on.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Us a good sweat like a good workout. Yeah, what
I mean, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
What?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
What's a good cardio workout for you? Where you're like drenched.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
We we have weighted vests, the wife and I and
then we and then I put on like a sweatshirt
and then we go on like a three or four
mile walk silver like.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
As fast as we can go.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
He's been on one of those silver space suits looking
kind of sweat bags.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
I don't think I own one of those, but I
just have a lot of hoodies. Okay, so I'm throwing
a hoodie like we did today, is that it is
not a flannel hoodie.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Okay, I wouldn't be surprised, but if they make those,
I'm interested.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Just yeah, as a million dollar idea that you just
came up with, I'm saying, yeahl flannel would be great.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
A couple of days, I do want to ask you,
and we'll let me get to this. On the other side,
the Broncos led the league in sacks last year. They
were about the same in takeaways. So the question I
have for you guys, if the Broncos could do only
one thing this next year. Would you rather lead the
league in takeaways or sacks?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Takeaways? I would say takeaways too, really, without without even
thinking anyways. I mean, it's simple.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
The more takeaways they get, it gives more possessions to
the office, more opportunity for Champagne to call passive players.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
We just did that whole stat yesterday about how a
sack on a drive and how much that really narrows
opportunities for scoring. Then I guess I'd take takeaways, but
you probably won't have as many takeaways as sacks. Like
you can think about it, three sacks last year, they
only have twenty five takeaways.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
If you have as many.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
If you if your takeaway number is the same as
your sack number, you're probably not a very good team,
right right If you get fifteen sacks or twenty sacks,
then maybe you got a chance because you I mean,
there's a lot of teams to get those type numbers
in takeaways. But like the Broncos last year sixty three sacks,

(28:16):
you ain't getting sixty three takeaways.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
No, I mean the lead lead last year was thirty three.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
I was going to say mid thirty.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Was that Philly Minnesota and Pittsburgh tied for the lead
with thirty three takeaways. Buffalo had thirty two, Green Bay
had thirty one. Those are the only teams in the thirties.
The Broncos had twenty five. They actually had twenty sixth
the year before, which is sort of an interesting quirk
when you lead the league in sacks, But that doesn't
necessarily translate. But that's the thing is like, so the
volume of sacks, like, say you can get back into

(28:46):
the sixties somehow in sacks. Again, Well, then when you
think that that would from an accumulation standpoint, I'm just
asking the question. Accumulation standpoint be better for the efficiency
of your defense and getting the ball back in the
offenses hands and thirty takeaways?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Well you change? You change the question, did I? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Because you said your initial question every day, your initial
question was which category would you want? You could lead
the league in takeaways or lead the league in sacks.
Now this last question you said, Hey, if you can
get thirty takeaways and wouldn't in sixty sacks, wouldn't that

(29:28):
sort of even things out? I would take the takeaways
because it's an instant possession. So I'm getting an I mean,
one of the things the coaches, especially offensive coaches, try
to do, or what head coaches is they try to
steal a possession or two every game, whether it's in
the kicking game or whether it's going forward on fourth

(29:50):
down a fake punt. They want to steal because possessions,
you know, give you obviously a chance to go score.
If you can steal one again, then you have better
chance to score points. So takeaways to me would be best.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know, whatever shows come in after us sometimes most
time Broncos Country tonight that we have Rockies tonight, they're
back in action. We just look at a scattershot of
some of the texts that we get, and this one says,
as an old Navy guy said, for athletes's foot, pee
on your socks.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And then wear them wet with shoes. There you go.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
There's somebody that just came in and sat down and
saw that text and'd be like, what's going on to
that last?

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Yeah, here's one another one six four six is an
African American woman. I have gone on a hike, but
I call it a walk. There's a difference, though, Okay,
there's a big difference. I'm walking around the block and
there's not a lot of wilderness. A height is just
that these fourteen ers.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I like challenges, but I don't like what mother nature
presents in the woods that I cannot see.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
No, no, no, So for me, I know a lot
of African American peace, but we don't hike.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And if we go to the beach, which we do
because I tell you about the cookouts, water waist high
any higher than that.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
One?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I share that with you. I'm I'm good and going
up to the knees. Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Seven one nine, here's another good one seven nine, four
to seven ozer. Nick needs to put Ryan in a
boot camp, get that physique up, shave the head, full beard,
become the ultimate strong man.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm sort of for that. Of course you're full that
to do anything? Well, No, I would.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Monitor the progress cos yeah, which monitor shave your head?
You know we'll get you. We want to how long
would it take for him to follow your workout regiment
to get him up?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
What do you weigh now? I weigh one eighty five.
All right, we're gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
We're preparing him for so that that's the determination UFC match.
Oh we're going to need black like six to eight
months for that one.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Well, okay, so we get we just worked a little
by a little during the season, You're right, and we
take a before picture and then an act eight months.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
We take an after. Do I get a vote in
this empty I think would be I.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Mean, I think it would be something our listeners would get. No,
I think your wife would approve.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I think she would not.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean she would not because it would take away,
it would take away from time with her and no, she.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
No, one, No, you can get Yes, there's a gym
down and I'm not sure she likes you that much anyway.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
So even even if it did take a little time
away in the might be it might be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So the two minutes you spent talking to her yesterday, Yes,
you're like, I don't know about them.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
She's awesome, she is, but I don't know about him.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yes, yeah, I mean just think about it. Okay, we'll
get a waiver to sign and we'll we'll.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Go to work. Now.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
That's the thing though, once we start and what committed
it is may I don't know if Ryan's going to
get in his flannel shirts anymore. So, well, there will
be a budget for a new wardrobe.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I thought about it.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
No, I'm good. Thanks. I appreciate it though, Thank thank
you for thinking of me.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
We'll keep pushing you. You know what, here's the thing,
we'll get a sponsor. If we get a sponsor, that
I have to do.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Damn the station. You know you're going to do it.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I have to do it.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, we get on it. Sales team get on it.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
So we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
So we have to follow up or finish up our
conversation about the sacks versus takeaways. I'm going to ask you,
is what you predict the Broncos have a better chance
of doing this upcoming season.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
We'll get to that next
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