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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zero's are Kawai Commas Spirit Hill textall and if you
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tonight's taking on the Twins. Although it's a little cloudy outside,
hopefully real good to go.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I haven't heard anything otherwise, but yeah, that game is
gonna start at six o'clock. Tonight's race to twenty, Dave better,
a race to twenty gets twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's that's it. I don't even care what else happens.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're already We're already over twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They're twenty wins in the second half.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh all right, Yeah, I'm not trying to see him.
I find.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Absolutely nothing but misery in thinking about them breaking the
all time record. Same, it's been a lousy season, been
a lousy three seasons in a row, right, but I
don't want him to break the record. And then we
talk about the Cleveland Spiders, and I mean, please go
on it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So let's yes, let's get to what do they need?
Forty two wins?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
They need forty two, so twenty more O, that's very doable.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean, if it happens, sign me up for it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
When when it happens, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Ferguson so you're guaranteeing it we'll get more than forty
two wins.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm speaking it into existence. Why don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Put a steak dinner with Davon. No, I'm not going
to bet hell. I don't want him to.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I would want to lose the bet, right exactly. So No,
Dave's talking about that. You, on the other hand, I
say you, well, you're already against them.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm not rooting against them.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
What gives you indie indicators that are rooting against them because.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You've openly talked about boycotting.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
See, that's different. That's entirely different.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Because I watched the Rockets and I suffer through them,
right because I said I watched because I'm hoping something
different is going to happen, and then I continue to
watch the same thing. Right, So I'm rooting for the
place because I know what it is like to be
on the team that's not winning.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The same thing happened to me when I played in
the CFL.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
We didn't win a lot of games, but I had
to go to work every single day and it was
kind of miserable, but I had a job to do.
So I feel for these guys and their families so
I don't want them to be the laughing joke of
Maajor League Baseball. I want them to get to like
forty two games, fifty games, but theynn't realistic. Though.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
At the same time, how.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Are you feeling about twenty more wins?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm about twelve? Oh, come on, I'm about twelve, all right.
You gotta have a jumping out point.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Nah, you gotta get to twelve before you get to
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Let's get let's get one tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Thank you, right, that's right in that window of my twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna feel much better about twenty if they
get one tonight. Five six, six, hine zero again if
you want to interact with the show, all right. So
I said going into the break that there's something being
held against bo Nicks as far as assessment of what
people expect him to do in year two.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't think is fair.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And it's his record against good teams he was and
they were the Broncos, because it is a team stat.
But you know how it is quarterback stats. Quarterback wins
sometimes get held against them. He is one in six
against teams and we're not including the Chiefs. By the way,
the last game of the season that doesn't count, and
I'm not including the postseason game either.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
This is the regular season. They're one in six.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Their lone win against a team with a winning record
was Tampa Bay, but then they lost against Seattle, who
was a winning record. They lost against Pittsburgh, they lost
against both times with the Chargers Ravens, and then the
other Chiefs game.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So one in six, and I can going to.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Stats to what he did in those games, but I
think it's unfair because those first two games, He's a
rookie in the league, and I'm not so sure that
that is peak performance and what he's going to be
this upcoming year.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think, I think it's I mean, I can't believe
how many how many stats that this time of the.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Year, shows like shows like US talk about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You see it on ESPN. I mean, you drive around town,
you hear it. I mean it's a fact. But as
you said, the first two games, Seattle and Pittsburgh, the Baltimore,
you know, not a lot of people beat Baltimore in Baltimore.
I don't know how many games home games the Ravens lost,
but that was a game that even though the Broncos
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were sort of in touch late in the first half
and then that quick score right before halftime, and I
mean Baltimore was just a better.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Team the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
The Chargers would be the one team of the six
and they beat the Broncos twice.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The second game in Los.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Angeles, that would be a game that would if I
was connected with the Broncos coach E Stafford is a player,
that game would stick in my craw like the entire offseason, right.
And the Chargers came here early in this season and
started the fourth quarter were ahead. I think it was
twenty three to nothing. Both those games. As much as
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you want to beat the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are
the top of the mountain in the AFC West, and
if you beat the Chiefs, you know you have a
chance to win AFC West and that would mean you
host a home playoff game.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I'm all in for that, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Also would be laser focused in on We're going to
see the Chargers twice, and we're going to see about
this thing. We're gonna find out about the Chargers because
you gave the game away in LA and he came
back in the fourth quarner of the first game and
actually worked your way back into a position that you had.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
A chance to win it. You look like you were
you were completely dead in the water.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So the Chargers of those six would probably be the
two games.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That'd be like, man, you got to figure out a
way to change that.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
See, that's why this season, as we fast forward, is
really important, and especially if you look at Week three,
four and five, Chargers Bengals and then Philadelphia, and I
know a lot of people nationally look at bow and say, well,
he couldn't beat the better teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He's got a better chance. Now your defense is better.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
You're in your second year, so no one can scream, well,
you're a young quarterback. It's the beginning of the season.
You're still trying to fall into everything. You don't have
that now now you're going to get tested out of
the gate, and now he's going to have to show
improve because looking at the Broncos, you know there's so
many great players on this team, but the conversation always
comes back to two people, Hey, coach and a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And quarterbacks are judged.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Based on wins and losses, and we can't say, well,
when the team loses a game, it's everybody else you
win the game.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Oh it's about the quarterback. No, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
So now it's about everyone getting on the same page
and Bowl shutting his critics up, like going out there
and playing the games. And one game that I have
scheduled and out of the first five is at Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, and so, and by the way, I probably could
have or should have included the Cincinnati Bengals in this conversation,
but again, that doesn't help things necessarily when it comes
to the record. And they were one in seven then
against teams with winning records.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But they did beat Atlanta. Atlanta had a winning record
when Atlanta was here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But you know that was.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, and that was that was literally the end of
Kirk Cousins with Atlanta. I think he played one more
game against the Raiders after that and then it was
kind of done. But but but to the point here,
as I kind of went over some of the stats
he was in those games. So I'll say without the
Cincinnati for now, one in six sixty four percent completion
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rate for all over fifteen hundred yards, six touchdowns, and
six interceptions.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Through four yes, interceptions, in the first two games exactly,
no touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's you did it Exac after the first.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Two weeks in those games.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And again now you're making and I'm doing it too,
making stats look any way we want to.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I'm going to make him look like this.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
After the first two weeks, the first two games of
bon Nicks's career against winning teams, he was six touchdowns,
two picks exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And so you think about those first few games.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So he had a sixty one percent completion rat in
the first game, fifty seven in the second game, and
then and then the next loss against the Chargers of
fifty seven, Baltimore also fifty seven, but then Kansas City
seventy three, and then you get to the Chargers seventy
two point five, and then Cincinnati was seventy seven point four.
The point that I'm getting to here is you saw,
you saw the improvement. And so when I was looking
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at one of my buddies who worked for Sports illustrateds,
he did a ranking of what he thinks the quarterbacks
will be at the end of the season. Again, as
you said, Davi, this is that time of year until
we actually have anything to use to talk about this
is what we do. So he did a ranking of
what he says at the end of the year, we'll
we'll be saying about these quarterbacks, and he put bonis
twenty fourth. He said, it'll be the twenty fourth best
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quarterback in the league at the end of the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
As long as he covered pro football very long time.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He's also a Chiefs fan, So I mean, I guess
who is it, Matt Verdomick. But but he was holding
his record against good teams against him. He said, this
is why I'm doing this because I don't I think
that's more like against you.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Know, that's what the stats say, But I think you
have to go back and dig into it. In the
first two games of this guy's career, I mean we're
against two good teams. I mean, certainly two good defensive
point yeah right, So I mean there's a learning curve
no matter who you are, there's a learning curve for everybody,
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for every quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That comes in the league.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I think I don't think bon Knicks will finishes the
twenty fourth best quarterback. I think that's way low. I
think if you said a Bonex who's going to be
in the top twelve quarterbacks, that's where I would I'd say, okay,
you know what, that kind of jives with what I
think too.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But twenty four, I mean that to me is taking
the easy.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Way out and just looking at stats like that and
not factoring in his first two games when his heart's
beating out of his chest.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean, go back and look at some of the
great quarterbacks in NFL history Hall of Fame quarterbacks, then
look at their first year, and then get back to
me on how bow Knicks played in his first year.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Also consider this, in those first three games of the season,
even though Bob didn't have a passing touchdown, he had
two rushing touchdowns, which showed and displayed his ability to
get outside the pocket. Here's the other thing to say
that bow is going to be the twenty fourth quarterback
after this thing is all said and done, to me,
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you're not only discounting him, but you also discounting the
defense at the same time. Because when we look at quarterbacks,
we have to look at it to say, well, what
kind of defense do you have? Like Joe Burrow, I mean,
look look at the number of thirty forty point games
that they were in and they lost, and their defense
kept them out of the playoffs. So if your defense
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is much better than your offense, or there's equal balance,
to me, which I think is gonna happen for the Broncos,
Bo's numbers are so much better.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So in fact, they're saying put him at twenty fourth.
I think that's that's to low.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
By the way, from the two and four a downe two.
So many people I listened to are now actually picking
the Broncos to win the division. I'm not sure who
Ryan keeps listening to, but this is not the prevailing narrative. Well, Ryan,
he wasn't. You weren't talking about where the Broncos are
going to finish. You were talking about rating bow Knicks. Yeah,
this was by a Kansas City fans standpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, and Matt. I love Matt. I see him every
year at the Combine.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's He's a true through and through Chiefs fan. So
I always have taken with grain of salt. So I
wasn't even setting up this conversation as a I want
to hammer away at this article. This was a okay,
I've seen this in more than one place. His record
against oh Bonnicks's record again, seeing.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The Bonnicks is being picked to be the twenty fourth
best quarter now after this coming year.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, that that's actually the lowest I think I've seen
from anybody, from anybody. No, I'm saying I've seen that
the Broncos and Bonix's record against good teams last year
playoff teams being used against him, And I thought that
would be an interesting conversation because I felt like it
wasn't fair considering the first two games of his career
were against two of probably the best.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Defenses in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, I think I think you have to factor in
that this is not Bonnicks's third year or fourth year,
and if if that's his record in his fourth year,
would be the starting quarterback in the league. I think
it's a viable conversation. I mean, I think it's like, Okay,
what's going on here? And I know it takes more
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than great quarterback play to win, but you don't want
that to be you don't want that to be the
record when you're that deep in the playoffs. I would say,
call your friend and tell him, like, I mean, how
concerned are you that Justin Herbert hadn't won a playoff
game yet?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Not one? You penalize Justin Herbert. You don't think Justin
Herbert is a.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Good player, But the fact is Justin Herbert's now going
into his.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Fifth Wait.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
This is fourth or fifth SA the fourth or fifth year,
I mean it is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh wow, Okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Should see some stories on a national level about Hey,
and I say this, and I think Justin Herbert's a
hell of a player, man, I mean, I mean, I
think he's a great player. But the reality is he
not want to play playoff game in his career. He
is OZ for however many they played, so sooner or later.
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That has to become kind of like, hey, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This textra we got another textans? What's that texture?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Talking about the Chiefs remius one tend to win the division.
The quote unquote prevailing narrative is that case will win
the AFC West. Yeah, the conversation anything that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
One tends almost an even better.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And so.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's been interesting to listen to national narrative conversations about
the AFC West. I think that there's some people that
wonder if the Chiefs because this is the same thing
that happened with the Patriots for years, right, was like
eventually it's going to fall off eventually, it is not
going to be as dominant as it's been. Maybe this
is the year we're gonna go ahead and be ahead
of this thing and predicted. And who could be stepping
into that well, could be the Chargers, could be the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Right, here's the issue with the Chiefs. You know, Patrick
Mahomes is going to be himself no matter what. Maybe
they'll be a little bit better. Do they have their
running games solved? They went out and got two tackles. Okay,
you got some guys coming back, Maybe they'll be better.
To beat the Chiefs, you got to deal with their defense.
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That's where it starts. So every offense in the ANFC West,
including the one here in Denver, has to figure out
a way to deal with their defense. And I think
it's I mean, I thought the defense was great last season,
kept them in a lot of games, really kept the
Super Bowl close.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Because if they don't.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Have that defense out there, that thing turns into like
a route early because I mean, the Chiefs offense has
turned the ball over every Wisch wedding right, So to
beat them, I would be more concerned about how my
team on offense was going to look at what Steve
Spagnolo does and figure out a way, all right, how
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can we score points on these dudes.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I think when you look at Patrick Mahomes and what
he's done in his league, obviously you don't want to
put anything past him. It's almost like that same thing
when Brady was playing. You don't want to bet against him.
But I think it's fair to say that the AFC
is catching up with the Chiefs because most of the
teams have a top notch quarterback and they have skilled
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players around that quarterback. And then some teams have decent defenses,
and like the Broncos, I think they have a top
match defense on paper. We just have to see if
they can actually put it together. So I think that
now I don't think. I know that the field is
starting to get narrow for the Chiefs, and they're not
as superior as they once were several years.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Ago, but they still have a formula that is has
been tested, and once you try to believe that you've
got to figure it out or that you're you're ahead
of them, they just have a baseline of expectation that
I that I have for them. So to the Textra's point, like, yeah,
there is some optimists about the Broncos, and I'm not
even trying to have a negative I'm actually having been
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trying to a positive conversation about bo Nix. There's some
optimism about the Broncos. There's some optimism about the Broncos
winning the division out there. But to that point, can
they raise their floor? Can they be consistently that team,
because you're going to get that every time Kansas City
takes the field.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
But see the one thing about Kansas City that they
go back to. You have Ma Homes, you have Andy Reid.
They know who they are, right There are a lot
of teams in the league that are chasing the Chiefs.
They don't have any true identity, Like with the Denver Broncos.
Tell me, I mean defensively, I could give you an identity. Offensively,
what are they?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, there's a lot of change there, That's what you
can say.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
There's a lot of change, but right now we.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Don't know what they are. You bring in Dobbins and RJ.
Harvey he's now signed, we know the potential of what
they could be.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, because between Dobbins, Harvey and Ingram, that's a lot
of variables don't you think and what we can expect
from the offense.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I think it's three players that they are counting on.
And I think when you have veterans like Evan Ingram,
I mean, he's he's got to be a guy. Right,
you didn't bring him in here to catch twenty eight passes.
I mean, he's he's got to be a dude. I
think they believe he can be. Same thing for JK. Dobbins.
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All respect to R J. Harvey. You know, I went
back and looked at a lot of his stuff at UCF.
I think he's I think he's got a chance.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
To be really good.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean he sheds tacklers, he's built so low to
the ground, and he's a powerful back.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That said, he and played.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
At this level and he's going to see things, you know,
with NFL defense and defensive players that will be a challenge.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I think he's going to be a good player. JK.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Dobbins has proven to be that guy. So Ingram and
Dobbins to me, are two key acquisitions for this Broncos offense.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
RJ. Harvey has those renaissance fair turkey laying that those
his thighs the renaissance, Yes, That's why I can say that, Well,
you I've been dress ass myself.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I didn't dress up. You didn't know no armor and
sword and note.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Because I went and I dressed as myself. It's there's
some interesting looking people down there.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
They do that thing. They do do their thing, and
probably so yes, and hey, they you do yours. I
do mine.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But why all of a sudden you would think you
try to tam Dave with that idea that I would
dress up.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You just seem like the type.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, So there's a type, yeaspe and I seem like
the type.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What about Dave? Does he seem like Dave?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I believe what Dave says, I dressed like me. Dave's
absolutely right. Okay, But a light sector if I put
if I put a light sector on you, I think
that you did something fit.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I fit the description. In certain situations? Are you a
dress up guy? And what what situations we're talking about?
Just certain ones?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Well, depending on what's certain wings we're talking about. Anyone's
using something we could dress up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Some we can dress Now, Look, you put a lot
of thought into the way you dress. That's what I'm
saying like it feels like it would be a missed
opportunity like Halloween.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, is you a Halloween guy? When I was a kid? Yeah,
I was too, But I'm a grown as man now,
so there's a difference. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So now if we were talking about Saturday Night no
a Star Wars convince you.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Literally showed up to the radio show where you're costumed
last year.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
That was one time?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's one time, hey list, Yes, you know the same
what's what's the same day?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, I can't say it. If you do it one time,
then that's what you is. No, I don't know about that.
I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yes, yes, this weekend very uh, very much. Looking forward
to getting back on track five six six nights.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Can't we come for Hill?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Text line one thing of kind of coming back to
that conversation about Bonix the rookie quarterbacks. There's a lot
of optimism on Drake May. What did you think of
Drake May last year?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Dave? I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I wasn't crazy about him coming out of college, but
he might not have liked me either.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
No, I thought he got I thought he got better.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I interview went on I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
He knows who I No, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I would have been inclined to pass on him for
one of the other quarterbacks. But I saw him in
a couple of games late in the season and I thought,
I thought he actually played pretty dog gone well. I mean,
the total, the over and under total in Vegas for
New England is nine and a half. That's the same
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as the Broncos. Now, I know they play in AFC East, right,
Miami looks like they're going to struggle this year and
the I think the Jets would be better, but I mean,
how good can they possibly be? So maybe New England,
you know, with the new new coach and Mike Vrabel,
maybe that's sort of the play for a lot of
people who liked to wager on that. But I did
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think Drake May really improved and got pretty dog owned
good down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And part of the reason I ask is like the
same article right that's had Bonix's twenty fourth he had
Drake mee at fourteen, and I was like, man, that
is a again, I see I was hired on Drake
May coming out of college than you were. Like when
we were doing the pre draft process, I was like,
I absolutely see with Drake May. But then when he
was selected by the Patriots, especially that offensive line, and
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they didn't really upgrade the other than Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They didn't do a lot with their weapons. They added
some running backs as well.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Were Drake May's numbers?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Okay, this is what I would send in a very
succinctly written email to your friend Kansas City Chiefs super fan. Yeah,
you know the dude that rides the motorcycle. What's the
matter Scott's name in Kansas City? Oh, you're a big
Chiefs soon.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He's retiring, Yes he is, isn't it the Chief's holidays?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Wiley Willie? I don't know, I mean, I don't know.
But what were Drake May's numbers?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, now I've got him searching the Chief's mascot, Casey Wolf?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Casey Wolf? All right? Yeah, good job. I mean did
like thirty years. Yeah, so good on.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Him, Dan Meers. Dan didn't even know he had the
name Drake May.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You just thought it was an actual animal. You thought
that was a real animal riding the motorcycle around.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Really sorry, go ahead, I'm willing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
To admit when I'm joking about something versus Nick when
he says he didn't wear something to the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why are you pulling me into this?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This between you two, I'm just sayin by Nick.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, don't pull me into it and handle this with day.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What were Drake May's stats in thirteen games.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes, he had a sixty six point six not a
good number completion rates and seventy six passing, fifteen touchdowns
and ten picks he took.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Okay, he took.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty four sacks.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So here we go, here we go, and your guy,
your best friend in Kansas City, ranks him to be
projects him to be the fourteenth best quarterback after this season,
and he holds the fact that Bo Nicks was one
in six against winning teams.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, if you're going to do that, let's let's.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Talk about Drake May's record.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I believe they won three games and his overall stats
fifteen touchdowns, ten picks, and he took thirty four sacks.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
What are we doing? I'll tell you what we're doing.
He's a Kansas City fan and any chance.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
He gets to slide it right in the old Broncos push,
he does tell him, I, Senate, well, I don't know
a by sliding into the Broncos too.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, you know what to get in that discussion, dude,
you established you know you know what they say. Well,
but I know what you say. I don't know what
they are. Did you not? Did you when I told
you in the break what they say?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I did not, But you know, yes, you and I
hung a out different parts of the locker room. I
guess we have.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
But you know, once again, I don't know who they are.
But in that case that you presented that that would
be bad. But as a pertas I think the reason
why he is getting that that bump because you think
about vrabel, an idea of Rabel being a good coach
and what he did in Tennessee and then Josh mcdaiels,
and even though Drake made statistically didn't have a great season,
(25:43):
towards the back end of the year, he started to
look like that guy that everyone was talking about in
the pre draft process. So you you think about that, yes, yeah,
but it seemed like when you look at when you
talk about Bowl, everyone wants to kind of downgrade Bowl, right,
but they're willing to upgrade every other.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quarterback because that is they're disdained with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, as long as long as he puts that, you
know as the header, I hate the Broncos, So maybe
take that in consideration. Here's my list of quarterbacks and
where they'll be ranked when the season ends. As long
as he qualifies it and just tells the truth. There's
nobody in their right mind that would think based on
(26:28):
he wants to base it on the fact they're one
to six, all right, based on the stats of last year,
that Bonnicks is going to be the twenty fourth rated
quarterback and Drake friggin May, based on the stats of
last year, is going to be rate rated fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well remember this.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Now we're talking about someone who's a friend of Ryan's
and you're asking them to put qualifiers.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, I mean, a good point by you. It's
a good point by you. Come on, now, get off
to Kansas City website. Ryan, why are you pulling me
to this? Well? You need to be it's so easy.
He was like, how can I not right? It's friend,
You've got to get another website or new friends. I mean,
I don't know that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
But Matt does really good work. I know there's a
little bit of Yeah, there's a little bit of a
tinge of.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
A chising, but we need not bring mad up anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
My favorite part, though, is that if you call him
on it, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I'm just I'm running this for the National Sports.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Illustrated once again, Ryan's friend doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Ryan often does you call him on something and he
changes the subject. Something got you? He's got you on that. Yeah,
I'm sort of enjoying this conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I did call him out for what it's worth, and
he didn't respond. So he's not really your friend.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe you think of him as a friend and maybe
he views you as something different.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wow, there's lots of a pack there. My entire childhood
now is suddenly.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Like the no, no, No. I've only known him for
about five or six years. I'm just saying just me
as like all the people I called Frenzy.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You Ryan, what do you think about the Bronco? When's
the last time that happened?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, usually he reaches out because he needs something from me.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
So now that's not a friend. Nick and Ian Sponsor, Yes,
a friend. Does he see you Christmas cards?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, nobody sends Christmas cards.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I get one from John Lynch every single year.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, I'm not close with John, so I do get
one from Steve, even though I.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
See John Lynch. Now you come up with Steve. Yeah,
well Steve, it's just one of the nicest people in
the world.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think it's a pity card. Like he's like, nobody
else is going to send one.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, no, what he knows is the videos out there
of him running so fast you couldn't seem when you
raced him in a forty year dash, and he'll always
feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's been a lot of fun, a lot of funny texts. Ryan,
he listens to Blink one e two You drop as
a friend.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh, I like them too.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Shelby loves Blink one e two, especially his wife loves
Yeah Shelby.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he went to support his wife. Do you like
Blink one eighty two.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I like some of their stuff, and I'm not a
huge Blink one eighty two. Okay, okay, cool, Yeah, I
can dig it.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It was.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That was an all time moment in the show, by
the way, our conversation with Shelby, Yeah, it was, he
sure was.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I got so many people out about that. Yeah, if
you guys, miss that I go check that out. Did
you ever figure out who the three women?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So Nick.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Briefly, so Shelby was talking about he went to a
Blink one a two concert just to support his wife.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I said, your wife likes Blink one eighty two. He goes,
she really does.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I said, you know, I saw I saw a poll
on CNN and there were like three black women in
America that like Blink one eighty two. He goes, well,
that's really good because my wife's not black. I'm like, oh, well,
surprised to you. You know what, we can find who
those three black women are out
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tonight's taking on the Twins. Although it's a little cloudy outside,
hopefully real good to go.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I haven't heard anything otherwise, but yeah, that game is
gonna start at six o'clock. Tonight's race to twenty, Dave better,
a race to twenty gets twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's that's it. I don't even care what else happens.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're already We're already over twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They're twenty wins in the second half.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh all right, Yeah, I'm not trying to see him.
I find.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Absolutely nothing but misery in thinking about them breaking the
all time record. Same, it's been a lousy season, been
a lousy three seasons in a row, right, but I
don't want him to break the record. And then we
talk about the Cleveland Spiders, and I mean, please go
on it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So let's yes, let's get to what do they need?
Forty two wins?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
They need forty two, so twenty more O, that's very doable.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean, if it happens, sign me up for it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
When when it happens, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Ferguson so you're guaranteeing it we'll get more than forty
two wins.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm speaking it into existence. Why don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Put a steak dinner with Davon. No, I'm not going
to bet hell. I don't want him to.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I would want to lose the bet, right exactly. So No,
Dave's talking about that. You, on the other hand, I
say you, well, you're already against them.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm not rooting against them.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
What gives you indie indicators that are rooting against them because.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You've openly talked about boycotting.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
See, that's different. That's entirely different.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Because I watched the Rockets and I suffer through them,
right because I said I watched because I'm hoping something
different is going to happen, and then I continue to
watch the same thing. Right, So I'm rooting for the
place because I know what it is like to be
on the team that's not winning.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The same thing happened to me when I played in
the CFL.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
We didn't win a lot of games, but I had
to go to work every single day and it was
kind of miserable, but I had a job to do.
So I feel for these guys and their families so
I don't want them to be the laughing joke of
Maajor League Baseball. I want them to get to like
forty two games, fifty games, but theynn't realistic. Though.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
At the same time, how.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Are you feeling about twenty more wins?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm about twelve? Oh, come on, I'm about twelve, all right.
You gotta have a jumping out point.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Nah, you gotta get to twelve before you get to
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Let's get let's get one tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Thank you, right, that's right in that window of my twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna feel much better about twenty if they
get one tonight. Five six, six, hine zero again if
you want to interact with the show, all right. So
I said going into the break that there's something being
held against bo Nicks as far as assessment of what
people expect him to do in year two.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't think is fair.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And it's his record against good teams he was and
they were the Broncos, because it is a team stat.
But you know how it is quarterback stats. Quarterback wins
sometimes get held against them. He is one in six
against teams and we're not including the Chiefs. By the way,
the last game of the season that doesn't count, and
I'm not including the postseason game either.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
This is the regular season. They're one in six.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Their lone win against a team with a winning record
was Tampa Bay, but then they lost against Seattle, who
was a winning record. They lost against Pittsburgh, they lost
against both times with the Chargers Ravens, and then the
other Chiefs game.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So one in six, and I can going to.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Stats to what he did in those games, but I
think it's unfair because those first two games, He's a
rookie in the league, and I'm not so sure that
that is peak performance and what he's going to be
this upcoming year.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think, I think it's I mean, I can't believe
how many how many stats that this time of the.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Year, shows like shows like US talk about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You see it on ESPN. I mean, you drive around town,
you hear it. I mean it's a fact. But as
you said, the first two games, Seattle and Pittsburgh, the Baltimore,
you know, not a lot of people beat Baltimore in Baltimore.
I don't know how many games home games the Ravens lost,
but that was a game that even though the Broncos
(04:26):
were sort of in touch late in the first half
and then that quick score right before halftime, and I
mean Baltimore was just a better.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Team the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
The Chargers would be the one team of the six
and they beat the Broncos twice.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The second game in Los.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Angeles, that would be a game that would if I
was connected with the Broncos coach E Stafford is a player,
that game would stick in my craw like the entire offseason, right.
And the Chargers came here early in this season and
started the fourth quarter were ahead. I think it was
twenty three to nothing. Both those games. As much as
(05:10):
you want to beat the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are
the top of the mountain in the AFC West, and
if you beat the Chiefs, you know you have a
chance to win AFC West and that would mean you
host a home playoff game.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I'm all in for that, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Also would be laser focused in on We're going to
see the Chargers twice, and we're going to see about
this thing. We're gonna find out about the Chargers because
you gave the game away in LA and he came
back in the fourth quarner of the first game and
actually worked your way back into a position that you had.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
A chance to win it. You look like you were
you were completely dead in the water.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So the Chargers of those six would probably be the
two games.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That'd be like, man, you got to figure out a
way to change that.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
See, that's why this season, as we fast forward, is
really important, and especially if you look at Week three,
four and five, Chargers Bengals and then Philadelphia, and I
know a lot of people nationally look at bow and say, well,
he couldn't beat the better teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He's got a better chance. Now your defense is better.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
You're in your second year, so no one can scream, well,
you're a young quarterback. It's the beginning of the season.
You're still trying to fall into everything. You don't have
that now now you're going to get tested out of
the gate, and now he's going to have to show
improve because looking at the Broncos, you know there's so
many great players on this team, but the conversation always
comes back to two people, Hey, coach and a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And quarterbacks are judged.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Based on wins and losses, and we can't say, well,
when the team loses a game, it's everybody else you
win the game.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Oh it's about the quarterback. No, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
So now it's about everyone getting on the same page
and Bowl shutting his critics up, like going out there
and playing the games. And one game that I have
scheduled and out of the first five is at Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, and so, and by the way, I probably could
have or should have included the Cincinnati Bengals in this conversation,
but again, that doesn't help things necessarily when it comes
to the record. And they were one in seven then
against teams with winning records.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But they did beat Atlanta. Atlanta had a winning record
when Atlanta was here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But you know that was.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, and that was that was literally the end of
Kirk Cousins with Atlanta. I think he played one more
game against the Raiders after that and then it was
kind of done. But but but to the point here,
as I kind of went over some of the stats
he was in those games. So I'll say without the
Cincinnati for now, one in six sixty four percent completion
(07:50):
rate for all over fifteen hundred yards, six touchdowns, and
six interceptions.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Through four yes, interceptions, in the first two games exactly,
no touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's you did it Exac after the first.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Two weeks in those games.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And again now you're making and I'm doing it too,
making stats look any way we want to.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I'm going to make him look like this.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
After the first two weeks, the first two games of
bon Nicks's career against winning teams, he was six touchdowns,
two picks exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And so you think about those first few games.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So he had a sixty one percent completion rat in
the first game, fifty seven in the second game, and
then and then the next loss against the Chargers of
fifty seven, Baltimore also fifty seven, but then Kansas City
seventy three, and then you get to the Chargers seventy
two point five, and then Cincinnati was seventy seven point four.
The point that I'm getting to here is you saw,
you saw the improvement. And so when I was looking
(08:44):
at one of my buddies who worked for Sports illustrateds,
he did a ranking of what he thinks the quarterbacks
will be at the end of the season. Again, as
you said, Davi, this is that time of year until
we actually have anything to use to talk about this
is what we do. So he did a ranking of
what he says at the end of the year, we'll
we'll be saying about these quarterbacks, and he put bonis
twenty fourth. He said, it'll be the twenty fourth best
(09:06):
quarterback in the league at the end of the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
As long as he covered pro football very long time.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He's also a Chiefs fan, So I mean, I guess
who is it, Matt Verdomick. But but he was holding
his record against good teams against him. He said, this
is why I'm doing this because I don't I think
that's more like against you.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Know, that's what the stats say, But I think you
have to go back and dig into it. In the
first two games of this guy's career, I mean we're
against two good teams. I mean, certainly two good defensive
point yeah right, So I mean there's a learning curve
no matter who you are, there's a learning curve for everybody,
(09:46):
for every quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That comes in the league.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I think I don't think bon Knicks will finishes the
twenty fourth best quarterback. I think that's way low. I
think if you said a Bonex who's going to be
in the top twelve quarterbacks, that's where I would I'd say, okay,
you know what, that kind of jives with what I
think too.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But twenty four, I mean that to me is taking
the easy.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Way out and just looking at stats like that and
not factoring in his first two games when his heart's
beating out of his chest.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean, go back and look at some of the
great quarterbacks in NFL history Hall of Fame quarterbacks, then
look at their first year, and then get back to
me on how bow Knicks played in his first year.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Also consider this, in those first three games of the season,
even though Bob didn't have a passing touchdown, he had
two rushing touchdowns, which showed and displayed his ability to
get outside the pocket. Here's the other thing to say
that bow is going to be the twenty fourth quarterback
after this thing is all said and done, to me,
(10:57):
you're not only discounting him, but you also discounting the
defense at the same time. Because when we look at quarterbacks,
we have to look at it to say, well, what
kind of defense do you have? Like Joe Burrow, I mean,
look look at the number of thirty forty point games
that they were in and they lost, and their defense
kept them out of the playoffs. So if your defense
(11:17):
is much better than your offense, or there's equal balance,
to me, which I think is gonna happen for the Broncos,
Bo's numbers are so much better.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So in fact, they're saying put him at twenty fourth.
I think that's that's to low.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
By the way, from the two and four a downe two.
So many people I listened to are now actually picking
the Broncos to win the division. I'm not sure who
Ryan keeps listening to, but this is not the prevailing narrative. Well, Ryan,
he wasn't. You weren't talking about where the Broncos are
going to finish. You were talking about rating bow Knicks. Yeah,
this was by a Kansas City fans standpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, and Matt. I love Matt. I see him every
year at the Combine.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's He's a true through and through Chiefs fan. So
I always have taken with grain of salt. So I
wasn't even setting up this conversation as a I want
to hammer away at this article. This was a okay,
I've seen this in more than one place. His record
against oh Bonnicks's record again, seeing.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The Bonnicks is being picked to be the twenty fourth
best quarter now after this coming year.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, that that's actually the lowest I think I've seen
from anybody, from anybody. No, I'm saying I've seen that
the Broncos and Bonix's record against good teams last year
playoff teams being used against him, And I thought that
would be an interesting conversation because I felt like it
wasn't fair considering the first two games of his career
were against two of probably the best.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Defenses in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, I think I think you have to factor in
that this is not Bonnicks's third year or fourth year,
and if if that's his record in his fourth year,
would be the starting quarterback in the league. I think
it's a viable conversation. I mean, I think it's like, Okay,
what's going on here? And I know it takes more
(13:01):
than great quarterback play to win, but you don't want
that to be you don't want that to be the
record when you're that deep in the playoffs. I would say,
call your friend and tell him, like, I mean, how
concerned are you that Justin Herbert hadn't won a playoff
game yet?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Not one? You penalize Justin Herbert. You don't think Justin
Herbert is a.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Good player, But the fact is Justin Herbert's now going
into his.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Fifth Wait.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
This is fourth or fifth SA the fourth or fifth year,
I mean it is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh wow, Okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Should see some stories on a national level about Hey,
and I say this, and I think Justin Herbert's a
hell of a player, man, I mean, I mean, I
think he's a great player. But the reality is he
not want to play playoff game in his career. He
is OZ for however many they played, so sooner or later.
(14:05):
That has to become kind of like, hey, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This textra we got another textans? What's that texture?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Talking about the Chiefs remius one tend to win the division.
The quote unquote prevailing narrative is that case will win
the AFC West. Yeah, the conversation anything that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
One tends almost an even better.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And so.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's been interesting to listen to national narrative conversations about
the AFC West. I think that there's some people that
wonder if the Chiefs because this is the same thing
that happened with the Patriots for years, right, was like
eventually it's going to fall off eventually, it is not
going to be as dominant as it's been. Maybe this
is the year we're gonna go ahead and be ahead
of this thing and predicted. And who could be stepping
into that well, could be the Chargers, could be the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Right, here's the issue with the Chiefs. You know, Patrick
Mahomes is going to be himself no matter what. Maybe
they'll be a little bit better. Do they have their
running games solved? They went out and got two tackles. Okay,
you got some guys coming back, Maybe they'll be better.
To beat the Chiefs, you got to deal with their defense.
(15:06):
That's where it starts. So every offense in the ANFC West,
including the one here in Denver, has to figure out
a way to deal with their defense. And I think
it's I mean, I thought the defense was great last season,
kept them in a lot of games, really kept the
Super Bowl close.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Because if they don't.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Have that defense out there, that thing turns into like
a route early because I mean, the Chiefs offense has
turned the ball over every Wisch wedding right, So to
beat them, I would be more concerned about how my
team on offense was going to look at what Steve
Spagnolo does and figure out a way, all right, how
(15:44):
can we score points on these dudes.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I think when you look at Patrick Mahomes and what
he's done in his league, obviously you don't want to
put anything past him. It's almost like that same thing
when Brady was playing. You don't want to bet against him.
But I think it's fair to say that the AFC
is catching up with the Chiefs because most of the
teams have a top notch quarterback and they have skilled
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players around that quarterback. And then some teams have decent defenses,
and like the Broncos, I think they have a top
match defense on paper. We just have to see if
they can actually put it together. So I think that
now I don't think. I know that the field is
starting to get narrow for the Chiefs, and they're not
as superior as they once were several years.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Ago, but they still have a formula that is has
been tested, and once you try to believe that you've
got to figure it out or that you're you're ahead
of them, they just have a baseline of expectation that
I that I have for them. So to the Textra's point, like, yeah,
there is some optimists about the Broncos, and I'm not
even trying to have a negative I'm actually having been
(16:51):
trying to a positive conversation about bo Nix. There's some
optimism about the Broncos. There's some optimism about the Broncos
winning the division out there. But to that point, can
they raise their floor? Can they be consistently that team,
because you're going to get that every time Kansas City
takes the field.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
But see the one thing about Kansas City that they
go back to. You have Ma Homes, you have Andy Reid.
They know who they are, right There are a lot
of teams in the league that are chasing the Chiefs.
They don't have any true identity, Like with the Denver Broncos.
Tell me, I mean defensively, I could give you an identity. Offensively,
what are they?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, there's a lot of change there, That's what you
can say.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
There's a lot of change, but right now we.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Don't know what they are. You bring in Dobbins and RJ.
Harvey he's now signed, we know the potential of what
they could be.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, because between Dobbins, Harvey and Ingram, that's a lot
of variables don't you think and what we can expect
from the offense.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I think it's three players that they are counting on.
And I think when you have veterans like Evan Ingram,
I mean, he's he's got to be a guy. Right,
you didn't bring him in here to catch twenty eight passes.
I mean, he's he's got to be a dude. I
think they believe he can be. Same thing for JK. Dobbins.
(18:11):
All respect to R J. Harvey. You know, I went
back and looked at a lot of his stuff at UCF.
I think he's I think he's got a chance.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
To be really good.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean he sheds tacklers, he's built so low to
the ground, and he's a powerful back.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That said, he and played.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
At this level and he's going to see things, you know,
with NFL defense and defensive players that will be a challenge.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I think he's going to be a good player. JK.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Dobbins has proven to be that guy. So Ingram and
Dobbins to me, are two key acquisitions for this Broncos offense.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
RJ. Harvey has those renaissance fair turkey laying that those
his thighs the renaissance, Yes, That's why I can say that, Well,
you I've been dress ass myself.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I didn't dress up. You didn't know no armor and
sword and note.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Because I went and I dressed as myself. It's there's
some interesting looking people down there.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
They do that thing. They do do their thing, and
probably so yes, and hey, they you do yours. I
do mine.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But why all of a sudden you would think you
try to tam Dave with that idea that I would
dress up.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You just seem like the type.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, So there's a type, yeaspe and I seem like
the type.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What about Dave? Does he seem like Dave?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I believe what Dave says, I dressed like me. Dave's
absolutely right. Okay, But a light sector if I put
if I put a light sector on you, I think
that you did something fit.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I fit the description. In certain situations? Are you a
dress up guy? And what what situations we're talking about?
Just certain ones?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Well, depending on what's certain wings we're talking about. Anyone's
using something we could dress up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Some we can dress Now, Look, you put a lot
of thought into the way you dress. That's what I'm
saying like it feels like it would be a missed
opportunity like Halloween.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, is you a Halloween guy? When I was a kid? Yeah,
I was too, But I'm a grown as man now,
so there's a difference. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So now if we were talking about Saturday Night no
a Star Wars convince you.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Literally showed up to the radio show where you're costumed
last year.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
That was one time?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's one time, hey list, Yes, you know the same
what's what's the same day?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, I can't say it. If you do it one time,
then that's what you is. No, I don't know about that.
I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yes, yes, this weekend very uh, very much. Looking forward
to getting back on track five six six nights.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Can't we come for Hill?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Text line one thing of kind of coming back to
that conversation about Bonix the rookie quarterbacks. There's a lot
of optimism on Drake May. What did you think of
Drake May last year?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Dave? I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I wasn't crazy about him coming out of college, but
he might not have liked me either.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
No, I thought he got I thought he got better.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I interview went on I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
He knows who I No, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I would have been inclined to pass on him for
one of the other quarterbacks. But I saw him in
a couple of games late in the season and I thought,
I thought he actually played pretty dog gone well. I mean,
the total, the over and under total in Vegas for
New England is nine and a half. That's the same
(21:53):
as the Broncos. Now, I know they play in AFC East, right,
Miami looks like they're going to struggle this year and
the I think the Jets would be better, but I mean,
how good can they possibly be? So maybe New England,
you know, with the new new coach and Mike Vrabel,
maybe that's sort of the play for a lot of
people who liked to wager on that. But I did
(22:14):
think Drake May really improved and got pretty dog owned
good down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And part of the reason I ask is like the
same article right that's had Bonix's twenty fourth he had
Drake mee at fourteen, and I was like, man, that
is a again, I see I was hired on Drake
May coming out of college than you were. Like when
we were doing the pre draft process, I was like,
I absolutely see with Drake May. But then when he
was selected by the Patriots, especially that offensive line, and
(22:40):
they didn't really upgrade the other than Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They didn't do a lot with their weapons. They added
some running backs as well.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Were Drake May's numbers?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Okay, this is what I would send in a very
succinctly written email to your friend Kansas City Chiefs super fan. Yeah,
you know the dude that rides the motorcycle. What's the
matter Scott's name in Kansas City? Oh, you're a big
Chiefs soon.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He's retiring, Yes he is, isn't it the Chief's holidays?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Wiley Willie? I don't know, I mean, I don't know.
But what were Drake May's numbers?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, now I've got him searching the Chief's mascot, Casey Wolf?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Casey Wolf? All right? Yeah, good job. I mean did
like thirty years. Yeah, so good on.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Him, Dan Meers. Dan didn't even know he had the
name Drake May.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You just thought it was an actual animal. You thought
that was a real animal riding the motorcycle around.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Really sorry, go ahead, I'm willing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
To admit when I'm joking about something versus Nick when
he says he didn't wear something to the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why are you pulling me into this?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This between you two, I'm just sayin by Nick.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, don't pull me into it and handle this with day.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What were Drake May's stats in thirteen games.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes, he had a sixty six point six not a
good number completion rates and seventy six passing, fifteen touchdowns
and ten picks he took.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Okay, he took.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty four sacks.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So here we go, here we go, and your guy,
your best friend in Kansas City, ranks him to be
projects him to be the fourteenth best quarterback after this season,
and he holds the fact that Bo Nicks was one
in six against winning teams.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, if you're going to do that, let's let's.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Talk about Drake May's record.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I believe they won three games and his overall stats
fifteen touchdowns, ten picks, and he took thirty four sacks.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
What are we doing? I'll tell you what we're doing.
He's a Kansas City fan and any chance.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
He gets to slide it right in the old Broncos push,
he does tell him, I, Senate, well, I don't know
a by sliding into the Broncos too.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, you know what to get in that discussion, dude,
you established you know you know what they say. Well,
but I know what you say. I don't know what
they are. Did you not? Did you when I told
you in the break what they say?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I did not, But you know, yes, you and I
hung a out different parts of the locker room. I
guess we have.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
But you know, once again, I don't know who they are.
But in that case that you presented that that would
be bad. But as a pertas I think the reason
why he is getting that that bump because you think
about vrabel, an idea of Rabel being a good coach
and what he did in Tennessee and then Josh mcdaiels,
and even though Drake made statistically didn't have a great season,
(25:43):
towards the back end of the year, he started to
look like that guy that everyone was talking about in
the pre draft process. So you you think about that, yes, yeah,
but it seemed like when you look at when you
talk about Bowl, everyone wants to kind of downgrade Bowl, right,
but they're willing to upgrade every other.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quarterback because that is they're disdained with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, as long as long as he puts that, you
know as the header, I hate the Broncos, So maybe
take that in consideration. Here's my list of quarterbacks and
where they'll be ranked when the season ends. As long
as he qualifies it and just tells the truth. There's
nobody in their right mind that would think based on
(26:28):
he wants to base it on the fact they're one
to six, all right, based on the stats of last year,
that Bonnicks is going to be the twenty fourth rated
quarterback and Drake friggin May, based on the stats of
last year, is going to be rate rated fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well remember this.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Now we're talking about someone who's a friend of Ryan's
and you're asking them to put qualifiers.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, I mean, a good point by you. It's
a good point by you. Come on, now, get off
to Kansas City website. Ryan, why are you pulling me
to this? Well? You need to be it's so easy.
He was like, how can I not right? It's friend,
You've got to get another website or new friends. I mean,
I don't know that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
But Matt does really good work. I know there's a
little bit of Yeah, there's a little bit of a
tinge of.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
A chising, but we need not bring mad up anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
My favorite part, though, is that if you call him
on it, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I'm just I'm running this for the National Sports.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Illustrated once again, Ryan's friend doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Ryan often does you call him on something and he
changes the subject. Something got you? He's got you on that. Yeah,
I'm sort of enjoying this conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I did call him out for what it's worth, and
he didn't respond. So he's not really your friend.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe you think of him as a friend and maybe
he views you as something different.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wow, there's lots of a pack there. My entire childhood
now is suddenly.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Like the no, no, No. I've only known him for
about five or six years. I'm just saying just me
as like all the people I called Frenzy.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You Ryan, what do you think about the Bronco? When's
the last time that happened?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, usually he reaches out because he needs something from me.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
So now that's not a friend. Nick and Ian Sponsor, Yes,
a friend. Does he see you Christmas cards?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, nobody sends Christmas cards.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I get one from John Lynch every single year.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, I'm not close with John, so I do get
one from Steve, even though I.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
See John Lynch. Now you come up with Steve. Yeah,
well Steve, it's just one of the nicest people in
the world.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think it's a pity card. Like he's like, nobody
else is going to send one.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, no, what he knows is the videos out there
of him running so fast you couldn't seem when you
raced him in a forty year dash, and he'll always
feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's been a lot of fun, a lot of funny texts. Ryan,
he listens to Blink one e two You drop as
a friend.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh, I like them too.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Shelby loves Blink one e two, especially his wife loves
Yeah Shelby.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he went to support his wife. Do you like
Blink one eighty two.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I like some of their stuff, and I'm not a
huge Blink one eighty two. Okay, okay, cool, Yeah, I
can dig it.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It was.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That was an all time moment in the show, by
the way, our conversation with Shelby, Yeah, it was, he
sure was.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I got so many people out about that. Yeah, if
you guys, miss that I go check that out. Did
you ever figure out who the three women?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So Nick.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Briefly, so Shelby was talking about he went to a
Blink one a two concert just to support his wife.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I said, your wife likes Blink one eighty two. He goes,
she really does.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I said, you know, I saw I saw a poll
on CNN and there were like three black women in
America that like Blink one eighty two. He goes, well,
that's really good because my wife's not black. I'm like, oh, well,
surprised to you. You know what, we can find who
those three black women are out
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