August 13, 2026 • 41 mins
Shannon The Dude and Cameron Mills talk his time playing for Kentucky, this year's basketball team, 5th year players and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the KSR Pre Show Thursday, August thirteenth. I
am Shannon to the dude, and you can give us
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(00:22):
just mentioned And the KSR Pre Show is being brought
to you by corn Bread Hemp. So Billy is out
once again today. He's been out all this week. He's
on his honeymoon, which I can't wait to hear about
where he ended up because he wouldn't tell us. I
don't even think he told Marissa Ruth her going, so
it's a mystery to everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But he'll be back next week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Until then, it's another day of guest hosts and this
week so far, I've had Woo Wookosh orb Zoot was
with me on Tuesday, I had Richie Farmer in yesterday,
and today I'm bringing in a two time national champion,
mister Cameron Mills joining me Good morning, Cameron.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good morning, sir, How are you hey?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Doing great? I'm sure you never get tired of hearing that.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean, not many people can say they were a
two time national champion here at Kentucky. No.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I think a few guys from maybe the forties, a
few guys from the fifties, and then a few guys
from the nineties.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, that's about it. It's a short list.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So yeah, you know, I didn't realize I was reading
up a little bit about you last night. I didn't
realize that you turned down a full scholarship to play
at Georgia just to walk on at Kentucky. I mean,
that's that's a pretty incredible story that you got.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, I mean it sounds like one now because of
what you know, what happened. But honestly, the hard decision
was scholarship or no scholarship, because Kentucky definitely wasn't going
to give me one, because you know, it's pretty pretty
adamant about that. Of course, he eventually did, but Georgia
had been recruiting me for three years and Hugh Durham
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was the coach there was before Tubby got there, and
Hugh Durham was actually the head coach of Florida State
when my dad was a graduate assistant there, so we
even had some family connection. And it was the biggest
school recruiting me, and I didn't want to turn down
a scholarship to an SEC school, but at the same
time I wanted to come here. The problem is they
just didn't want me, so long story short, they wound
(02:15):
up saying, well, look, if you want to come here
some bad, so bad, why don't you walk on? And
that had in a card to anybody. Of course they
have to let you walk on in the first place.
But yeah, turned down scholarship today and some smaller schools
as well. But I'm not to at least bit disappointed
in how it worked out.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it turned out pretty well for you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I bring that up to say that, you know,
I don't think that many people would be willing to
do that. I mean, that just shows how much you
wanted to be at Kentucky, how much you loved Kentucky.
You grew up a fan of Kentucky, your dad played
at Kentucky. I mean, you have such a connection to it.
I just I don't think that many people would be
willing to do something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, honestly, it was more of a decision for mom
and dad because it was either they were going to
be paying for my college or they wouldn't have to.
My brother, who got a you know, four year right
full right at Transylvania, loves to remind him that, you know,
he saved them four years of school were I only
saved him two. But I think more people would do
it if they could. And back in the nineties, college tradition,
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especially in state wasn't nearly what it is now, so
it was at least more reasonable, if not reasonable. So
it was a question for dad, And when Dad said,
sure we can, we'll figure it out, and then it
was a no brainer for me.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, unlike the other two guys that I had
on earlier this week that played at Kentucky, you were
actually teammates with Mark Pope.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How active were you, Cameron?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And the group text that Mark brought up that all
you guys are on a group text, I'm sure that
you guys are arousing him and you know, chiming in
after a given your coaching tips after a loss.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
There's actually, you know what, there's actually not that much
of it. I'll be honest with you, if you were
to see the group chat, it's typically somebody, it's it's
one everybody wishing you know, somebody a happy birthday. There's
more happy birthdays on that group chat than there is anything.
Occasionally we'll catch up. But you know, Mark talks about
when he first had his press conference, he talked about
(04:10):
the chat and said, you know, he knows he's going
to get a lot of criticism and coaching from us. Honestly,
the guys don't do that. I mean no, I mean,
the chat is as innocent as it could be. There's
not I mean, there's congratulations on a win, there's maybe
you know, you try to find the right thing to
say after a loss, because you know Mark, Mark takes
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losses about as bad as coach Patino does and about
as bad as the you know, the fans do, so
which is a good thing, I think, but you just
try to try to pick him up. So but as
far as like you know, us coaching from the sidelines, Look,
he got the Kentucky job. None of us got the
Kentucky job, or we're interested in it, and most of
us aren't even coaches. So we played. But it's a
(04:53):
different thing when you kind of stand over on the
sidelines and you got to pick the right defense victor
at offense, puts the scout together, put all the recruits together,
both freshmen and out of the portal. It's just a
different world.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
When you were teammates with Mark, did you ever think
back then that he would number one be coaching at all?
And if you did think that maybe he would be
a good coach one day, did you ever think that
he would be the Kentucky coach.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's kind of a dream coming down from a guy
like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, now, I don't I don't think. I don't think
you could ever, you know, assume that because it's you know,
especially if you have a connection here, it's definitely going
to be, you know, your dream job if you're in coaching.
I mean, look at all the guys that I played
with that were just all the Kentucky guys that went
into coaching, whether they played in the late nineties or not.
I'm sure it's a dream job for all of them
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because they all understand the pressure, so that that's not
that's not really a factor for him, But it's a
dream job for all of them. But I don't think
you can expect to have it because it's one job,
and it's one of the one of the toughest jobs
to get, one of the best jobs to have. But
as far as Mark getting it makes the most in me.
(06:04):
Everyone knows this, but he he's very cerebral. He was,
without a doubt, the smartest guy on our team basketball
wise and in the classroom so and he was also
the hardest worker. I mean, his work ethic was literally,
I mean it was we were all trying to keep
up with him, whether it was in the weight room,
whether it was on the track, whether it was in
the swimming pool, or whether it was on the basketball court.
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And then of course you add in he you know,
would read a book a day, which I don't think
many of us try to keep up with that part
of it, but I mean, it just makes sense that
it would be him.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I definitely wasn't reading a book a day unless
you gave me the book. It from pizza Hut. That's
the only thing that made me read a book when
I was a kid. If I knew I was gonna
get a personal hut. Did you have did you have
book it? Back in the day when you were in.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
School, we had weekly readers book. It sounds familiar though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well book it was like if you were I guess
it was for maybe elementary and middle school. But if
you read, yeah, five books a week or something like that,
you gotta pizza.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Pizza. They're bringing it back to.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, yeah we did that, we got we called it
something else though I think it wasn't booked, but you
know absolutely I remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So you know, speaking of Mark Pope, He's brought in
this idea, this media madness which you're now part of
the media, to Cameron. So, I mean you you definitely
fit the bill, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I got?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I got a lot of questions about this. First of all,
are you going to participate in this? Are you thinking
about participating in this?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, so let let me ask you. Let me return
the question with a question for you. So, how good
of a media members can I possibly be? When I
have no idea what you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Are you serious? You don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No idea?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Okay, let me tell you then.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, I know what big Blue Madness is, and I
used to know what midnight madness was when we had
Big Blue manus at midnight. But I it is this
sim bringing in the media like you did for a
practice last year.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, So what he's doing is on September seventeenth, Mark
is inviting all of the media to come and play.
I don't think he said whether or not it's going
to be at Memorial or Rupperina, but he's inviting all
the media members to come in and play a game
or you know, run through some drills, go through a practice,
and I think, do some five on five and then
after the games are over, he's going to have the
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current players act as the media and they're going to
interview the guys in the media who just played, which
I think is a brilliant idea, you know, kind of putting.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The shit on the other foot.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I hope every single member of the media winds up
vomiting on the court at some point.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, I mean, there's probably going to be a lot
of torn hamstrings and booking bones and everything else. But
you know, I bring this up because I've been trying
to recruit some former players to be on our team.
I thought maybe you'd be, you know, on team JMI.
But since you don't even know about it, maybe I
can still you I can act as the lead recruiter
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for Team KSR because I can't play in it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I've already got obligations, so I can't play.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh it's when you're put together a team for a
team team J and I, but you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Be there, are I thought that you would be on
Team J M I.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But I got to know no, no, no, no, but
you're not going to be there one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I've got a music festival that I have to be
at because of my obligations with the other stage, the rock.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And roll side of your of your mystique. That's the
part that the part that I did not know existed
until about six months ago. No, honestly, I didn't know
about it. But it does sound like something that Mark
would come up with. I mean, you know, amazing to
me under Shannon is it for? It's kind of like,
you know, you can you can talk bad about our people,
(09:39):
but or we can talk bad about our people, but
you can't kind of thing with Mark. You know, the
criticism he faced during the portal this off season, and
it's probably harder for some of us who are teammates
to hear, you know, the criticism that he faces and
(10:00):
then he deals with you know that he's he's kind
of he kind of hurts the way we're hurting when
we hear someone say something about him, but he actually doesn't.
He handles it so well that, you know, I said earlier,
we're trying to find something to say to him after
a loss. Doesn't handle those well. Uh, but don't want
him to. But it's just one of those things where
(10:20):
it's it's ideas like this where I think it's just
kind of brilliant, where basically he's it's just reaching out,
it's doing something that's different. It's doing something that gets
you know, our name in print or but it's also
a fostering relationship with you know, the media, the journalists,
the people that cover the team, which is not a
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So, now that you know this exists, when's the last time,
when's the last time you picked up a ball and
did a shoot around or maybe uh, I don't know,
did any anything involving basketball?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Has it been a while or do you still shoot around?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I know you broke you broke up on me, Shane
and asked your question.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I was just asking, you know, since I'm trying
to recruit you for Team KSR. When was the last
time that Cameron Mill shot at basketball?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Has it been a while?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Let's see. I shot at basketball in my neighbor's pool
on their goal about three weeks ago, so that was
the last time. But that was that. That wasn't exactly
in the competitive spirit. That was more while I'm in
the pool, I don't have a raft, so hey, I'll
get some shots up and I think I got two
up and then I got bored. Yeah, I haven't when
it was the thing, and I know it still kind
(11:26):
of exists in a different format now, but they had
leagues all the time, and I would play in leagues
with my brother and some other guys. Played college ball
kind of after that was done, and that was in
my thirties. It just it's just it's as much as
I love the game and as good as it has
been to me, it's not my life. And it's just
there are other things that I want to do and
try to do. So if I've got free time, there's
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usually something else that I enjoy. My brother, on the
other hand, who never will always spent time on the court.
It's still doing it at almost sixty or almost fifty
years old now, and he I mean he loves it.
He's still he's still playing as much as he can.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I've been watching you know, you're talking about shooting basketball.
I've been watching your shot on a loop this morning
against Duke, that big shot. I was going, you know what,
that guy right there. If we could get on the team,
I think we might win the thing, win the whole media.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You'd be you would be far better off getting his
she mw. Evans on the team, or Scott Pageant on
the team, or Jeff Shepherd on the team. Because she
Shep actually weighs less than he did when he played.
He might be the only one that's accomplished that goal. Yeah,
but those guys are still still still play.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And by the way, looking, if you're going to watch
a game, get pull Scott's up. Scott's I'll.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Cameron. You're cutting out on me a little bit. I can't, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I think we lost Cameron, or at least we've got
a bad connection with Cameron, so we'll try to get
reconnected with him. Uh, this is a good time to
take a break A five nine twenty two eighty seven.
If you want to call in and talk to Cam
and uh, we'll you know, take your calls and anything
else you want to talk about. We'll make it an
ask anything day as well. While we got Cameron here
with us today, we'll be right back. It is the
KSR Appreciow. Welcome back, KSR Appreciow. It's Shannon and Cameron
(13:07):
Mills joining me today. I think five nine, two eight,
twenty two eighty seven. If you want to jump in,
if you've got a question, or we got one caller
on the line that wants to talk football.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And well I will shut that one out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You you got it cameraon. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You probably know just about it, just as much about
football as anybody else on KSR.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So it's all good.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you get to go to practices at all during
the off season?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah? Yeah. Now, actually, Mark, you know one thing he
said he's done really well at because every coach that
comes in says this is that, you know, they want
to reach out and make the alumni and the former
players part of the team. Blah blah blah. Mark's actually
done that to the point where he's he's reached out
personally to every former Kentucky player that's alive, either through
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email or phone a phone call, and not only told
them that he wants them to, you know, come to games,
but anytime they want to come to practice. So I've
actually been to more practice, more UK practice in the
last three years than well since I played. So it's
typically once a week, sometimes twice a week, especially during
the season because we'll you know, typically have two games
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a week, so you're wanting to at least go see
the scouting report and that kind of thing. But in
the summer, yeah, just just sitting and watching. And that's
how honestly, one of the most fun parts about it
is watching, Okay, especially with the portal being the way
it is, and every year you got, well, I guess
we're used to it here with Cal you know, a
new team, but you've got a upper classman that come
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in and you know, with maybe even bigger egos than
some of the freshmen come in, or maybe even were
desperation because they're one to make it to the league,
and so you see some selfishness at the beginning of
the summer that is, you know, the last two years, honestly,
just watching the summer practice. It gets erased by the
end of summer practice. I mean somehow, you know, they
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just kind of gel into a team and come to
the conclusion that, you know, we together are going to
go further than we are separated. And I you know,
kl was able to do that a lot, Mark's been
able to do it. Injuries keep getting in the way,
but that's fun to watch the guys kind of grow
into a team from a you know, a whole bunch
of what fourteen possibly fifteen depending on a lawsuit individuals
(15:23):
on this year's team.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, so I'm assuming that you got to go check
out the open practice that Mark Pope did last week.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Did you get to go to that?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Not open one I went to? So when they've had
practices this summer, just the ones, which it still baffles
me that they can do that. I mean it's so
different now where we literally because we're not allowed to
be in a room with us there was a basketball
president until October fifteenth, less unless we were playing to
pick up. Now, I mean they're practicing all summer practically,
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then they got to take a break, and then even
on the break, you know, once school starts up, they
can actually do some stuff with basketballs, which it sounds
silly to you know that you wouldn't include that. But
you can do all the condition you want, but if
a basketball is on the court at councils practice, and
we couldn't do that till the fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We had Jack Gibbons call in last week and he
was telling us that he got more of a vibe
from the first team that Mark Pope had here with
this team currently then last year.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And what are some of your individual takeaways from players
that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think if you just kind of look at his thing,
I think what we're going to see like going forward,
just in college basketball is you know, everyone talked about
last year just as a whole, the amazing freshmen that
were in college basketball, right they came in, they played
one year, so many of them went first round NBA
in the draft. And but even all of those players,
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which I'm gonna I'm just thinking back, maybe was that
maybe ten guys. Maybe? I mean there's two hundred and
three hundred some odd Division one teams that's that's not
a very big percentage of freshmen that you know, stood
out the way those guys set out. So I think,
I mean, if you've got a choice between going and
getting a fourth year or three. Eventually it's going to
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be three year down to four year. But a three
year veteran who has played Division one ball, even if
it's on a mid major, like a lot of the
guys on his first team two years ago, were you know,
you're you're already ahead of the game. I mean, look,
a freshman could come in surprise. The biggest room for
growth and improvement is between your senior year or high
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school year, freshman year of college, and even including your
freshman year of college. The best to take as a
collegiate basketball player is the summer when you've gone through everything,
all the workouts, all the conditioning, you know what to expect,
and now you just kind of sell out to it
and you get better. But coming into it, you just
don't know what to expect. So I just think we're
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better off. I think every team would be, but we're
better off just you know, what's a standing freshman out
there that we want? Fine go getting, but man, say
those scholarships. Whether we did it on purpose issue or not,
don't know, but say those scholarships for those guys that
are hitting the portal, because I mean at this point,
everybody's going portal one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, you mentioned that lawsuit about the fifth year players
that are trying to come back for another year. Yesterday,
Mark Mitchell, who played at Missouri is one of those
players who is asking for a fifth.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Year, filed a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
He would be the guy who would fill in that
final roster spot from Mark Pope if he's allowed to play.
In your opinion, do you think that these guys who
just finished out their college career going into college with
the you know, assumption that they were only going to
be there four years. Now they got this new five
for five rule. Now these guys are going, well wait
a minute, now, what about me? Do you think the
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guys that just finished out four years should be allowed
that fifth year like in Mark mitchell situation.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well, you know, when they put in I don't know
if it was the revenue sharing or the nil they
backdated that I think two thoy seventeen. So even if
you didn't play or were not one of the teams that
got in al or revenue sharing you know as a
part of you know, your quote unquote scholarship, and you
actually did get paid, they backed it up and I
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think reivers, the guys that were on twenty seventy. So
I guess there's some sort of press for that of saying, okay, well,
you know what, we just put the rule in, but
we got to back up and make this right for
some at least to some degree, some guys that just
recently left. Here's the thing. I don't really care except
in this, in this instance, right because I want I
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want Mitchell. I mean I want him. I want that
fifteenth spot filled. I want another shooter, I want another score,
and I mean, especially if it's going to be somebody
that's you know what all sec I think two years
in a row? Yeah, you know, so yeah, in this case, absolutely,
I hope it happened. And even in other cases, I
know it doesn't bother me. I mean, he had four years,
(19:57):
five years. What's the difference. Yeah, de fact, is it
nearly what it used to be. It's just a completely
different games, it is.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, you got that from the from the portal
to nil to now five years, which you know, overall,
I think I'm good with the five year thing because
you know, if you don't put in that role, then
you get guys who have been in college for seven years,
you know, right, Yeah, well in the COVID year, it
kind of years. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know if
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that I guess that was still COVID year because.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I think that was still COVID year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, but even.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Six years, it's like, come on, man, at some point,
move on and we'll get to the leader at a job.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Played, Yeah, are Shanon? There are guys that played. I
feel like I feel like I watched guys, especially for
whatever reason, that played at Florida. I feel like there
are guys that I watched play seven eight years back
in the you know, early teens, you know, two thousand
and one or even twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
No, I think we can't.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
By the way, it was four years because.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You cut out on me a little bit there. So
so back to get a degree.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But yeah, back back up a little bit because you
cut out on me there.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh I said, sorry about that. I like, I said,
I've got terrible reception at my house with this phone.
But yeah, it it typically took. Look, you get a
four year scholarship, even though you don't your scholarships for
year to year and always have been, but you get
typically four years to get it because you go you're
going for a four year degree. So it used to
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make sense why it was four years because to some degree,
maybe not so much, you know, in the nineties, probably
in the eighties as well, when the money started getting outrighted,
just as far as the coaches, the TV deals, the
media stuff, it made sense. But when.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right well, I mean, Cameron, yeah, you keep cutting out
on me. So I'm aout jump in here. We're gonna
hit a break anyway. H eight five nine two eight
oh twenty two eighty seven. That's the number you can
call in if you want to ask Cameron a question
or talk about anything else that we got going on
with football and basketball season coming up. We're gonna take
a break. We'll be right back. It is the KSR
pre Show. It is the KSR pre Show with Shannon
(22:11):
the Dude and Cameron Mills. I think we've got Cameron
in a better spot where his phone connection will actually work.
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waiting on the phone, and let's go to Jacob right now.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Hey, Jacob, how are you?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Hey, Shanny doing good man down here in New Orleans
at the Saints and Jaguars joint practice. Getting to see
a few Cats today, Barry On, Chris Rodriguez, Josh Allen. Anyway,
there's smell of grass and violence there. Man. I'm just
want to rish Billy and Marissa. You know, wish is
(23:41):
on their wedding.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, yeah, well, I can't wait to hear all about
Billy's wedding. We had a great time and we you know,
Ryan and I talked about that a little bit on Monday.
But uh, have fun down there, man, let us know.
Uh call back tomorrow and give us an update from
down there.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Will I'll let you know how we're looking.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Man, all right, yep, thanks Jacob.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know you and I were talking during the break
camera speaking of football, and I didn't I don't know
if this has been up on the website for a
while or if it was just at it yesterday, but
somebody tweeted out different things that fans can do for
nil money involving the football team.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
For instance, I'll give you a couple here.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You can have pre game field access as a fan,
It says experienced Kroger field like a wildcat, Immediately following
the catwalk, your group of up to four guests will
enjoy fifteen minutes of exclusive access on the field, take
photos from the playing surface, run a route.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They're going to let you run a route.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and they've got this where you can buy it,
and they've got links there.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah. So there's one.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Let's see, what's another one here, there's one where you
can actually be a part of the catwalk itself. So
it says beople be part of one of Kentucky's most
cherished game day traditions from the best seat in the
house on the field. Join the Wildcat marching band, spirit squads,
and fellow Wildcats before kickoff as Kroger Field comes together
to sing My Old Kentucky Home. So I don't know
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if you get to lead my Old Kentucky Home or what,
but I might.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Want to screen that one a little bit harder than
just yeah, somebody paying money for it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, hey, well Kentucky Joe.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I thought like something like letting somebody kind of experience
like a full game day behind the scenes in the
locker room, at training table, you know, in the film room,
everything that goes on, whether it's football or basketball, you know,
putting something like that and makes that available. I think
that would do well. But I love those ideas. Well.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, there's another one where you get to run out
with the team. I think they've got that one for
for like two hundred and eighty five dollars, you can
run out on.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
To the field.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I feel like we need to we need to get
that reasonable. Yeah, I mean really for two hundred and
eighty five bucks. I mean that's a very specific number.
I don't know why you wouldn't just round up and
call it three hundred, but whatever, you know, I'm not
in charge here, but I mean I think there would
be a lot of fans would pay two hundred and
eighty five dollars to run out on the field with
the team.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I do too, But I also think there'd be a
lot of fans that would pay three hundred dollars to
run out on the field of team.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So I'm looking on I think it's a yeah, I
think it's a cheap price. I mean, I think you
could probably go up to five hundred, and you would
have a lot of fans that would want to do that.
They've also got a coin toss delivery experience where I
guess you could run out and delivered the.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh US is no longer doing that or was that
the football they they delivered the football?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, so you get to run out and I
guess you get to deliver the coin for the coin
toss a lot of I mean they're getting you know,
Jay Batt as the athletic director. One of the things
that he's really good at in his MO is fundraising.
So I don't know if this is like from the
mind of Jay Batt or what, but those are definitely
things that I can see our fans paying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I mean, honestly, I can see fans of any team
that they love paying to do. I mean just for that,
you know, one time special experience depending on what it
costs and what it is, or maybe something you want
to do every day. I mean even just going down
on the field for fifteen minutes. And this sounds silly,
but mom was in high school when they used to
air the games at like eleven o'clock on Channel twenty seven.
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I was part of the I got recruited into making
sure that the cables attached to the cameras nobody stood
on them so they wouldn't yank out as they moved
that camera up and down the field. So I was
on the field like for a lot of games in
high school, and it actually is so much cooler being
so close to those guys, you know, during a game.
I mean, you get a bigger sense when you're in
the stands, obviously, but being down there, this is how
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big some of these dudes are too.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Did you see what Akron is doing with their nil
and what they're allowing a fan?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Did you see this story from last week? So Acron
was so no.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We talk about, you know, fans maybe getting a little
too close to the team, like you mentioned maybe a
game day experience. I would be a little bit worried about,
you know, somebody from another team that you know, pretended
to be a Kentucky fan going into the locker room
and instilling the game player. That's not a bad thought, yeah,
you know, but but listen to what Akron's doing. So
Akron is doing this thing where if you buy season
(27:56):
tickets to a game, which is like, by the way,
seventy five bucks that's how much it is for season tickets, right,
They're going to put everybody's name into like a hat
or some sort of lottery and They're going to pull
out somebody's name who bought season tickets and they're going
to allow that fan to call the plays for the first.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Drive of the first game of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So I'm serious, No, this is a thing that they
are allowing a fan.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
To call the plays.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So if you want to call, you know, for Hill
Mary's straight or a flea flicker on the first game, I.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Mean, I mean talk about talking about, you know, buying
it and being on the other being for the other team.
That's just yeah, that's a little that's I agree that
that's a little too far. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure we would want that on on either way. And
the way they're just doing that as a lottery for
if you buy season tickets, that's not even a nil thing.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Then yeah, I guess so, yeah, I guess that's separate.
I mean, they're just.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
So and it's not even guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Right, They're just so desperate and get people to come
to Acron football. But here's the thing, A couple, well
a couple of things. Number One, what if the fan
ends up calling plays that leads to a touchdown in
the first drive, then all of a sudden, there's a
lot of pressure on the actual offensive coordinator because what
if what the actual office of coordinator they do three
and out on the next drive.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So well, I think I agree with that. I think
there's also be a learning curve for fans is in
general and understanding that, Yeah, look, the coaches have to
do their job, but the actual job's done by the players,
and if they would if they execute any play, especially
if I can if I'm just talking about the sport
I know about, I mean, if we just executed, no
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matter what defense was there, we were going to score
or at least get a good shot. But you got
to execute. So you can call whatever play you want,
but you got to execute.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
The other thing is too, when's the last time you
ever watched an Acron football game? For me, never but
knowing that there's going to be a fan who's going
to be calling the plays in this first game, I.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Will be watching it just to see what's happen.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I think it's a brilliant, brilliant strategy for maybe
not for Kentucky, maybe not for an SEC school the time,
get a lot of eyes on them, but it's Akron
football for somebody like that. I think it's brilliant, because
now all of a sudden, I'm gonna be like, let's
watch this first drive and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, and you're right, it could
be funny. I'm sure they are going to limit it
in some way and say, okay, you got ten plays
one through ten. You just tell us which one, one, two, three,
four or five and make it as simple as they can.
And I have a feeling that the hail Mary's and
the punts and the field goal attepts from eighty five
yards won't be on there.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So see, I'm almost tempted to do it myself. I mean,
seventy five bucks what if? Yeah, I mean, I mean
you look, you got to me, the experience of calling
the game would be worth seventy five bucks, even if
I never went to a game at all that season
other than that game.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So but then again, yeah, you've got to get it's
still a lottery. You would have to buy these tickets
and then you got to get your name drawn out
of a hat or at least one of them. What
I guess ten, I guess it would be like seven home games.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Right, But I feel like they look.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I love the way a lot of these schools are
thinking like outside the box, and I'm glad we're doing
it too well.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You know, if I if I were to win that though,
I'm saying, no, give me the headset. I'm calling the
plays to the quarterback directly. I want full control over
this thing. Hey, yeah, you know you're you're in media now.
You kind of do the what you do the pregame
show for the basketball games. Talk to me just for
a minute about your old broadcast partner, Dave Baker, because
(31:26):
you guys together were just Radio Gold. You guys were
so entertaining. You guys bicker. You guys bickered back and
forth like an old married couple, and listeners, including myself,
really enjoyed that. I thought that there was some charm
behind the way that you guys did that broadcast. But
there were some people out there that thought that you
guys genuinely did not like each other. And I don't
(31:48):
think that's the case. But I don't want to speak
for you, but tell me about how it was working
with Dave, because you guys were growing each other.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
We've actually talked more, you know, since the season has
been over. Then we talk during the season and it's
probably just because we would see each other, you know,
every other every other day during the season at the show,
but no day, and I just look, we're both hardheaded,
we both got our opinions, and he isn't going to
back down on what he thinks because he's got forty
(32:14):
years covering the Cats in just about every sport. I'm
not going to back down because I had four years
playing for the Cats. So I mean, neither one of
us are gonna been And I'm I'm glad. I'm glad
someone Shannon enjoyed it because I just kept hearing, you know, no,
no thanks to the show that's following years. But because
(32:36):
that's where the I think the original phone calls came
from with the person saying, is they ed each other?
I promise we do not. I adore Dave and I'm
certainly going to miss him this year. Yeah you know,
he's not gone, he just won't be on the show.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, but you guys, you guys were so much fun
to listen to. Let's take a phone call. Let's go
to Jake.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Hey, Jake, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You tell us?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I just I just had a random question. So I
feel like Shannon, Me and your music paste kind of
a line the most. So I was just kind of
want to know, what are some of your favorite acoustic
covers or just acoustic songs in general.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Acoustic covers or acoustic songs in general, I would have
to think about that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Far as covers.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know, I grew up in the nineties loving the
grunge music, so the Sound Garden, Alfanes.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And STP and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think that Stone Tipple Pilots did a really good
acoustic cover of Dancing Days by Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think that's one of the best.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Covers that that that I've heard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But do you have one, Jake?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
One of my favorites is probably simple Man by Shonda
That's another one.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, the cover, that's one of my favorites. But that's
really all I had. I was kind of curious because
I feel like me and you have the same music paste,
so I just wanted to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Appreciate it all.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, Jake, Thank you. Cameron. What are you into? Do
you listen to a lot of music?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I do?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm one of those Uh, I love everything.
And we'll listen. I mean I've literally got of course
I don't have the CDs anymore, but had bagpipe CDs.
I mean, I've got every kind of every kind of
music except maybe opera. I love musicals, don't like opera.
I gotta be I'd like to understand the words that
are being sung. But you know you mentioned the grunge
(34:20):
music from the nineties that, well, when I was in
high school, that that's when that was formed. So I
mean just listening to pearl Jam and actually even becoming
a bigger pearl Jam than as I've gotten older. Basically,
anything that's a hard rock song done acoustically, well I'm
gonna love.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, you say you listen to bagpipe music? Did you
say that?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Oh right, Well, well, well let me clarify. I have
bagpipe CDs. I had bagpipe music on my phone in
my iPod when I had an iPod.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yes, were you?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
But what were you listening to to get ready for
a game or did you even have like a game
day song?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I know a lot of guys do to get.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Them pumped up. You weren't listening to bagpipes before the games?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Were you?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
No, no, no, no, But but I will tell you, hey,
listen the sky Ottish Army in World War One, they
were led through the trenches by pipers, so they would
get hyped up listen to pipes. So no, I just
love the sound of them. So it's just it's one
of those alternate down low or sometimes turned it up
by and it's just kind of in the background playing sometimes.
But the problem is is that it's hard to find
(35:17):
other appreciators of the screeching whales of the bagpipes, so
I don't get to listen to them unless I got
headsets on that often.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Are you Are you a wrestling fan or were you
a wrestling fan? Because I came across that video last
night of you and Scott Paget on w c W
in Louisville. Were you Were you just there because you
know w CW was in town?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Or were you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
So I was when I was a kid. I countless
hours of arguing with my dad about whether it was
real es fake, and then yeah no, and then UH
just kind of dropped it. Uh for well, honestly until
got to UK, and because of Scott Paget, and and
solely because of Scott Patget, because he just kind of
(36:02):
converted everybody. Everyone just started paying attention because it was
this weekly violent faker on fake soap opera that everybody
could follow along and we talk about you know, when
we weren't talking about other things. But like senior year,
Scott and Jeff Shepherd had were room roommates, did a
big screen TV and every Monday night the entire team
(36:25):
crashed into their room and watched WCW.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It was all the rage.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
When they were coming to Loibile, we just thought, no,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty Coolah. I was watching that video
last night. Somebody tweeted it out from years ago. But
that's a good stuff. All right, We got to take
a break. Final segment coming up next, will be right back.
If you want to get an eight, five, nine and
two eight twenty two eighty seven, it's the ksrpre show.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
To answer Jake's question, this is one of my picks
for my favorite covers, Dancing Days originally done by Led Zeppelin,
but STP did a good cover of it. All right,
final segment, we only got about five minutes left here
with Cameron.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Let's take a call that got Ryan on the line. Hey, Ryan,
how are you Hey, Ryan, go you're on with camera Mills.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Hey, okay, yeah, I'll go. I'll go quit Cameron. I've
talked to Matt and Shannon, a few of them about
the phone calls that quit taking a lot of the
old guys and the show on Coach Pope show, they
just don't seem people have complained about they don't take
the phone calls. And I want to know if they're
going to start taking phone calls and will Stein's going
to take them. But I remember you coming off that
(37:28):
bitch and against Stuke and hitting him three point shots. Man,
you were a good player, a good shooter. Thanks for
taking my call.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate it. We didn't last year, obviously,
I don't. As far as the Coaches shows, I guess
they did it the same way we did, which was
either use a text line for questions which makes it
easier for a call screen or to screen them, or
a Twitter. I think we use that, so I don't
think that's changing. Ryan, Sorry about that, but who knows.
(37:58):
Maybe maybe it'll just be made to go back to calls,
but yeah, I think it'll just I think going forward
it is just gonna be texts or and or Twitter
or x.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Back in your day, you know, when you were playing.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think even even to this day, Cameron, if we
were to rank guys that we would want taken a
last second three, I think you're gonna be like in
top five, top six probably all the time at Kentucky.
Talk to me about playing for coach Patino versus coach Smith.
What were the main differences in just I don't know, practice,
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game day, prep, et cetera, just how they ran the program.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Playing for those two surprisingly different. And I say surprisingly
because we thought they were going to be. When coach
Smith got a job, we kind of expected immediately, okay,
there's you know, there won't be much change. He came
from coaches three, same play, same defense, saying, you know, practice,
maybe not as much yelling, and that turned out to
be true. But it was a lot a lot more different.
(38:56):
You know, we weren't pressing for forty minutes. It wasn't
up and down, it wasn't Patino's bomb. He knows, but
I don't. You know, we were talking about the beginning show, Stannon,
I don't. I couldn't have asked for a better four
years there, and part of that was having Rick Patino
as my coach for three years and then Tubby for
my last year. Because you know, I'm not saying Rick
(39:16):
Patino couldn't have gotten us to the national championship in
ninety eight, but to come in in your first year
and again back to building a team. I mean, we
were a team already, but to bring your coach in
and no one knows who he is, and for him
to get us to believe in him and to buy
into his system hoping that it worked, and turns out
it did. It was just amazing. And it's just I
(39:39):
don't know, It's one of those fun things when your
coaches can be such like father figures, and just as
you get older, they become like some of your most
valued and trusted relationships. And both of those guys are
for me, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Watching the two different styles, I think for fans it
was more fun to watch the full court press. But
as a player, as a player, though you're probably going
good beef coach, give us a break going up, well,
it was literally.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
To the point where you were not supposed to be
in the game longer than three or four, three minutes,
three minutes and thirty seconds a spell, and then you
were supposed to be taking yourself out because if you
weren't winded after playing that type of game for three
minutes and thirty seconds, then you weren't playing hard enough,
so coach Coach would didn't have to take you out.
So it was really the hell it was. But I
mean there were times when we would go full court
(40:24):
with Tubby, but coach t it was black white red.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Forty minutes a game, Yeah, we only got about a
minute left. I wanted to ask you one last question.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
As a former player now member of the media, is
there any of your former teammates that you think maybe
could jump over into media and do this thing if
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh, Scott Pageant, Scott Pageant.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, listen, people think that I talk a lot. Just
just go hang out with Scott if you ever get
a chance to. He got the nickname Jukebox his freshman
year for that very reason. He never shut up, and
then he had the goall one time during practice to
tell me that I never shut up.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh man, No, see, I done.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I think maybe a Scott Paget Cameron Mills podcast or
something like that in the future could work. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
When I'm my radio show, my favorite interviews were with
Scott because it was like I asked him one question
and he would do what I do sometimes, which is
just a filibuster.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Camera.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're out of time, man, I really appreciate you jumping
on here and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
All right, I appreciate you seeing it all right.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
There you go, cameraon Mills. Big thanks to camera for
jumping on here with us. Tomorrow, KSR and the KSR
Pre Show will be live from Shady Rays and Lobill
at the Oxmore Center. KSR is coming up next. We'll
talk to you later
Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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once again today. He's been out all this week. He's
on his honeymoon, which I can't wait to hear about
where he ended up because he wouldn't tell us. I
don't even think he told Marissa Ruth her going, so
it's a mystery to everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But he'll be back next week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Until then, it's another day of guest hosts and this
week so far, I've had Woo Wookosh orb Zoot was
with me on Tuesday, I had Richie Farmer in yesterday,
and today I'm bringing in a two time national champion,
mister Cameron Mills joining me Good morning, Cameron.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good morning, sir, How are you hey?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Doing great? I'm sure you never get tired of hearing that.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean, not many people can say they were a
two time national champion here at Kentucky. No.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I think a few guys from maybe the forties, a
few guys from the fifties, and then a few guys
from the nineties.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, that's about it. It's a short list.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So yeah, you know, I didn't realize I was reading
up a little bit about you last night. I didn't
realize that you turned down a full scholarship to play
at Georgia just to walk on at Kentucky. I mean,
that's that's a pretty incredible story that you got.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, I mean it sounds like one now because of
what you know, what happened. But honestly, the hard decision
was scholarship or no scholarship, because Kentucky definitely wasn't going
to give me one, because you know, it's pretty pretty
adamant about that. Of course, he eventually did, but Georgia
had been recruiting me for three years and Hugh Durham
(01:51):
was the coach there was before Tubby got there, and
Hugh Durham was actually the head coach of Florida State
when my dad was a graduate assistant there, so we
even had some family connection. And it was the biggest
school recruiting me, and I didn't want to turn down
a scholarship to an SEC school, but at the same
time I wanted to come here. The problem is they
just didn't want me, so long story short, they wound
(02:15):
up saying, well, look, if you want to come here
some bad, so bad, why don't you walk on? And
that had in a card to anybody. Of course they
have to let you walk on in the first place.
But yeah, turned down scholarship today and some smaller schools
as well. But I'm not to at least bit disappointed
in how it worked out.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it turned out pretty well for you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I bring that up to say that, you know,
I don't think that many people would be willing to
do that. I mean, that just shows how much you
wanted to be at Kentucky, how much you loved Kentucky.
You grew up a fan of Kentucky, your dad played
at Kentucky. I mean, you have such a connection to it.
I just I don't think that many people would be
willing to do something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, honestly, it was more of a decision for mom
and dad because it was either they were going to
be paying for my college or they wouldn't have to.
My brother, who got a you know, four year right
full right at Transylvania, loves to remind him that, you know,
he saved them four years of school were I only
saved him two. But I think more people would do
it if they could. And back in the nineties, college tradition,
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especially in state wasn't nearly what it is now, so
it was at least more reasonable, if not reasonable. So
it was a question for dad, And when Dad said,
sure we can, we'll figure it out, and then it
was a no brainer for me.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, unlike the other two guys that I had
on earlier this week that played at Kentucky, you were
actually teammates with Mark Pope.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How active were you, Cameron?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And the group text that Mark brought up that all
you guys are on a group text, I'm sure that
you guys are arousing him and you know, chiming in
after a given your coaching tips after a loss.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
There's actually, you know what, there's actually not that much
of it. I'll be honest with you, if you were
to see the group chat, it's typically somebody, it's it's
one everybody wishing you know, somebody a happy birthday. There's
more happy birthdays on that group chat than there is anything.
Occasionally we'll catch up. But you know, Mark talks about
when he first had his press conference, he talked about
(04:10):
the chat and said, you know, he knows he's going
to get a lot of criticism and coaching from us. Honestly,
the guys don't do that. I mean no, I mean,
the chat is as innocent as it could be. There's
not I mean, there's congratulations on a win, there's maybe
you know, you try to find the right thing to
say after a loss, because you know Mark, Mark takes
(04:33):
losses about as bad as coach Patino does and about
as bad as the you know, the fans do, so
which is a good thing, I think, but you just
try to try to pick him up. So but as
far as like you know, us coaching from the sidelines, Look,
he got the Kentucky job. None of us got the
Kentucky job, or we're interested in it, and most of
us aren't even coaches. So we played. But it's a
(04:53):
different thing when you kind of stand over on the
sidelines and you got to pick the right defense victor
at offense, puts the scout together, put all the recruits together,
both freshmen and out of the portal. It's just a
different world.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
When you were teammates with Mark, did you ever think
back then that he would number one be coaching at all?
And if you did think that maybe he would be
a good coach one day, did you ever think that
he would be the Kentucky coach.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's kind of a dream coming down from a guy
like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, now, I don't I don't think. I don't think
you could ever, you know, assume that because it's you know,
especially if you have a connection here, it's definitely going
to be, you know, your dream job if you're in coaching.
I mean, look at all the guys that I played
with that were just all the Kentucky guys that went
into coaching, whether they played in the late nineties or not.
I'm sure it's a dream job for all of them
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because they all understand the pressure, so that that's not
that's not really a factor for him, But it's a
dream job for all of them. But I don't think
you can expect to have it because it's one job,
and it's one of the one of the toughest jobs
to get, one of the best jobs to have. But
as far as Mark getting it makes the most in me.
(06:04):
Everyone knows this, but he he's very cerebral. He was,
without a doubt, the smartest guy on our team basketball
wise and in the classroom so and he was also
the hardest worker. I mean, his work ethic was literally,
I mean it was we were all trying to keep
up with him, whether it was in the weight room,
whether it was on the track, whether it was in
the swimming pool, or whether it was on the basketball court.
(06:26):
And then of course you add in he you know,
would read a book a day, which I don't think
many of us try to keep up with that part
of it, but I mean, it just makes sense that
it would be him.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I definitely wasn't reading a book a day unless
you gave me the book. It from pizza Hut. That's
the only thing that made me read a book when
I was a kid. If I knew I was gonna
get a personal hut. Did you have did you have
book it? Back in the day when you were in.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
School, we had weekly readers book. It sounds familiar though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well book it was like if you were I guess
it was for maybe elementary and middle school. But if
you read, yeah, five books a week or something like that,
you gotta pizza.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Pizza. They're bringing it back to.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, yeah we did that, we got we called it
something else though I think it wasn't booked, but you
know absolutely I remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So you know, speaking of Mark Pope, He's brought in
this idea, this media madness which you're now part of
the media, to Cameron. So, I mean you you definitely
fit the bill, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I got?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I got a lot of questions about this. First of all,
are you going to participate in this? Are you thinking
about participating in this?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, so let let me ask you. Let me return
the question with a question for you. So, how good
of a media members can I possibly be? When I
have no idea what you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Are you serious? You don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No idea?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Okay, let me tell you then.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, I know what big Blue Madness is, and I
used to know what midnight madness was when we had
Big Blue manus at midnight. But I it is this
sim bringing in the media like you did for a
practice last year.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, So what he's doing is on September seventeenth, Mark
is inviting all of the media to come and play.
I don't think he said whether or not it's going
to be at Memorial or Rupperina, but he's inviting all
the media members to come in and play a game
or you know, run through some drills, go through a practice,
and I think, do some five on five and then
after the games are over, he's going to have the
(08:19):
current players act as the media and they're going to
interview the guys in the media who just played, which
I think is a brilliant idea, you know, kind of putting.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The shit on the other foot.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I hope every single member of the media winds up
vomiting on the court at some point.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, I mean, there's probably going to be a lot
of torn hamstrings and booking bones and everything else. But
you know, I bring this up because I've been trying
to recruit some former players to be on our team.
I thought maybe you'd be, you know, on team JMI.
But since you don't even know about it, maybe I
can still you I can act as the lead recruiter
(08:53):
for Team KSR because I can't play in it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I've already got obligations, so I can't play.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh it's when you're put together a team for a
team team J and I, but you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Be there, are I thought that you would be on
Team J M I.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But I got to know no, no, no, no, but
you're not going to be there one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I've got a music festival that I have to be
at because of my obligations with the other stage, the rock.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And roll side of your of your mystique. That's the
part that the part that I did not know existed
until about six months ago. No, honestly, I didn't know
about it. But it does sound like something that Mark
would come up with. I mean, you know, amazing to
me under Shannon is it for? It's kind of like,
you know, you can you can talk bad about our people,
(09:39):
but or we can talk bad about our people, but
you can't kind of thing with Mark. You know, the
criticism he faced during the portal this off season, and
it's probably harder for some of us who are teammates
to hear, you know, the criticism that he faces and
(10:00):
then he deals with you know that he's he's kind
of he kind of hurts the way we're hurting when
we hear someone say something about him, but he actually doesn't.
He handles it so well that, you know, I said earlier,
we're trying to find something to say to him after
a loss. Doesn't handle those well. Uh, but don't want
him to. But it's just one of those things where
(10:20):
it's it's ideas like this where I think it's just
kind of brilliant, where basically he's it's just reaching out,
it's doing something that's different. It's doing something that gets
you know, our name in print or but it's also
a fostering relationship with you know, the media, the journalists,
the people that cover the team, which is not a
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So, now that you know this exists, when's the last time,
when's the last time you picked up a ball and
did a shoot around or maybe uh, I don't know,
did any anything involving basketball?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Has it been a while or do you still shoot around?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I know you broke you broke up on me, Shane
and asked your question.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I was just asking, you know, since I'm trying
to recruit you for Team KSR. When was the last
time that Cameron Mill shot at basketball?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Has it been a while?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Let's see. I shot at basketball in my neighbor's pool
on their goal about three weeks ago, so that was
the last time. But that was that. That wasn't exactly
in the competitive spirit. That was more while I'm in
the pool, I don't have a raft, so hey, I'll
get some shots up and I think I got two
up and then I got bored. Yeah, I haven't when
it was the thing, and I know it still kind
(11:26):
of exists in a different format now, but they had
leagues all the time, and I would play in leagues
with my brother and some other guys. Played college ball
kind of after that was done, and that was in
my thirties. It just it's just it's as much as
I love the game and as good as it has
been to me, it's not my life. And it's just
there are other things that I want to do and
try to do. So if I've got free time, there's
(11:46):
usually something else that I enjoy. My brother, on the
other hand, who never will always spent time on the court.
It's still doing it at almost sixty or almost fifty
years old now, and he I mean he loves it.
He's still he's still playing as much as he can.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I've been watching you know, you're talking about shooting basketball.
I've been watching your shot on a loop this morning
against Duke, that big shot. I was going, you know what,
that guy right there. If we could get on the team,
I think we might win the thing, win the whole media.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You'd be you would be far better off getting his
she mw. Evans on the team, or Scott Pageant on
the team, or Jeff Shepherd on the team. Because she
Shep actually weighs less than he did when he played.
He might be the only one that's accomplished that goal. Yeah,
but those guys are still still still play.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And by the way, looking, if you're going to watch
a game, get pull Scott's up. Scott's I'll.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Cameron. You're cutting out on me a little bit. I can't, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I think we lost Cameron, or at least we've got
a bad connection with Cameron, so we'll try to get
reconnected with him. Uh, this is a good time to
take a break A five nine twenty two eighty seven.
If you want to call in and talk to Cam
and uh, we'll you know, take your calls and anything
else you want to talk about. We'll make it an
ask anything day as well. While we got Cameron here
with us today, we'll be right back. It is the
KSR Appreciow. Welcome back, KSR Appreciow. It's Shannon and Cameron
(13:07):
Mills joining me today. I think five nine, two eight,
twenty two eighty seven. If you want to jump in,
if you've got a question, or we got one caller
on the line that wants to talk football.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And well I will shut that one out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You you got it cameraon. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You probably know just about it, just as much about
football as anybody else on KSR.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So it's all good.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you get to go to practices at all during
the off season?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah? Yeah. Now, actually, Mark, you know one thing he
said he's done really well at because every coach that
comes in says this is that, you know, they want
to reach out and make the alumni and the former
players part of the team. Blah blah blah. Mark's actually
done that to the point where he's he's reached out
personally to every former Kentucky player that's alive, either through
(13:55):
email or phone a phone call, and not only told
them that he wants them to, you know, come to games,
but anytime they want to come to practice. So I've
actually been to more practice, more UK practice in the
last three years than well since I played. So it's
typically once a week, sometimes twice a week, especially during
the season because we'll you know, typically have two games
(14:16):
a week, so you're wanting to at least go see
the scouting report and that kind of thing. But in
the summer, yeah, just just sitting and watching. And that's
how honestly, one of the most fun parts about it
is watching, Okay, especially with the portal being the way
it is, and every year you got, well, I guess
we're used to it here with Cal you know, a
new team, but you've got a upper classman that come
(14:39):
in and you know, with maybe even bigger egos than
some of the freshmen come in, or maybe even were
desperation because they're one to make it to the league,
and so you see some selfishness at the beginning of
the summer that is, you know, the last two years, honestly,
just watching the summer practice. It gets erased by the
end of summer practice. I mean somehow, you know, they
(15:00):
just kind of gel into a team and come to
the conclusion that, you know, we together are going to
go further than we are separated. And I you know,
kl was able to do that a lot, Mark's been
able to do it. Injuries keep getting in the way,
but that's fun to watch the guys kind of grow
into a team from a you know, a whole bunch
of what fourteen possibly fifteen depending on a lawsuit individuals
(15:23):
on this year's team.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, so I'm assuming that you got to go check
out the open practice that Mark Pope did last week.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Did you get to go to that?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Not open one I went to? So when they've had
practices this summer, just the ones, which it still baffles
me that they can do that. I mean it's so
different now where we literally because we're not allowed to
be in a room with us there was a basketball
president until October fifteenth, less unless we were playing to
pick up. Now, I mean they're practicing all summer practically,
(15:57):
then they got to take a break, and then even
on the break, you know, once school starts up, they
can actually do some stuff with basketballs, which it sounds
silly to you know that you wouldn't include that. But
you can do all the condition you want, but if
a basketball is on the court at councils practice, and
we couldn't do that till the fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We had Jack Gibbons call in last week and he
was telling us that he got more of a vibe
from the first team that Mark Pope had here with
this team currently then last year.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And what are some of your individual takeaways from players
that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think if you just kind of look at his thing,
I think what we're going to see like going forward,
just in college basketball is you know, everyone talked about
last year just as a whole, the amazing freshmen that
were in college basketball, right they came in, they played
one year, so many of them went first round NBA
in the draft. And but even all of those players,
(16:54):
which I'm gonna I'm just thinking back, maybe was that
maybe ten guys. Maybe? I mean there's two hundred and
three hundred some odd Division one teams that's that's not
a very big percentage of freshmen that you know, stood
out the way those guys set out. So I think,
I mean, if you've got a choice between going and
getting a fourth year or three. Eventually it's going to
(17:14):
be three year down to four year. But a three
year veteran who has played Division one ball, even if
it's on a mid major, like a lot of the
guys on his first team two years ago, were you know,
you're you're already ahead of the game. I mean, look,
a freshman could come in surprise. The biggest room for
growth and improvement is between your senior year or high
(17:35):
school year, freshman year of college, and even including your
freshman year of college. The best to take as a
collegiate basketball player is the summer when you've gone through everything,
all the workouts, all the conditioning, you know what to expect,
and now you just kind of sell out to it
and you get better. But coming into it, you just
don't know what to expect. So I just think we're
(17:56):
better off. I think every team would be, but we're
better off just you know, what's a standing freshman out
there that we want? Fine go getting, but man, say
those scholarships. Whether we did it on purpose issue or not,
don't know, but say those scholarships for those guys that
are hitting the portal, because I mean at this point,
everybody's going portal one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, you mentioned that lawsuit about the fifth year players
that are trying to come back for another year. Yesterday,
Mark Mitchell, who played at Missouri is one of those
players who is asking for a fifth.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Year, filed a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
He would be the guy who would fill in that
final roster spot from Mark Pope if he's allowed to play.
In your opinion, do you think that these guys who
just finished out their college career going into college with
the you know, assumption that they were only going to
be there four years. Now they got this new five
for five rule. Now these guys are going, well wait
a minute, now, what about me? Do you think the
(18:49):
guys that just finished out four years should be allowed
that fifth year like in Mark mitchell situation.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well, you know, when they put in I don't know
if it was the revenue sharing or the nil they
backdated that I think two thoy seventeen. So even if
you didn't play or were not one of the teams that
got in al or revenue sharing you know as a
part of you know, your quote unquote scholarship, and you
actually did get paid, they backed it up and I
(19:15):
think reivers, the guys that were on twenty seventy. So
I guess there's some sort of press for that of saying, okay, well,
you know what, we just put the rule in, but
we got to back up and make this right for
some at least to some degree, some guys that just
recently left. Here's the thing. I don't really care except
in this, in this instance, right because I want I
(19:36):
want Mitchell. I mean I want him. I want that
fifteenth spot filled. I want another shooter, I want another score,
and I mean, especially if it's going to be somebody
that's you know what all sec I think two years
in a row? Yeah, you know, so yeah, in this case, absolutely,
I hope it happened. And even in other cases, I
know it doesn't bother me. I mean, he had four years,
(19:57):
five years. What's the difference. Yeah, de fact, is it
nearly what it used to be. It's just a completely
different games, it is.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, you got that from the from the portal
to nil to now five years, which you know, overall,
I think I'm good with the five year thing because
you know, if you don't put in that role, then
you get guys who have been in college for seven years,
you know, right, Yeah, well in the COVID year, it
kind of years. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know if
(20:25):
that I guess that was still COVID year because.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I think that was still COVID year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, but even.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Six years, it's like, come on, man, at some point,
move on and we'll get to the leader at a job.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Played, Yeah, are Shanon? There are guys that played. I
feel like I feel like I watched guys, especially for
whatever reason, that played at Florida. I feel like there
are guys that I watched play seven eight years back
in the you know, early teens, you know, two thousand
and one or even twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
No, I think we can't.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
By the way, it was four years because.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You cut out on me a little bit there. So
so back to get a degree.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But yeah, back back up a little bit because you
cut out on me there.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh I said, sorry about that. I like, I said,
I've got terrible reception at my house with this phone.
But yeah, it it typically took. Look, you get a
four year scholarship, even though you don't your scholarships for
year to year and always have been, but you get
typically four years to get it because you go you're
going for a four year degree. So it used to
(21:27):
make sense why it was four years because to some degree,
maybe not so much, you know, in the nineties, probably
in the eighties as well, when the money started getting outrighted,
just as far as the coaches, the TV deals, the
media stuff, it made sense. But when.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right well, I mean, Cameron, yeah, you keep cutting out
on me. So I'm aout jump in here. We're gonna
hit a break anyway. H eight five nine two eight
oh twenty two eighty seven. That's the number you can
call in if you want to ask Cameron a question
or talk about anything else that we got going on
with football and basketball season coming up. We're gonna take
a break. We'll be right back. It is the KSR
pre Show. It is the KSR pre Show with Shannon
(22:11):
the Dude and Cameron Mills. I think we've got Cameron
in a better spot where his phone connection will actually work.
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Speaker 1 (23:19):
Hey, Jacob, how are you?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Hey, Shanny doing good man down here in New Orleans
at the Saints and Jaguars joint practice. Getting to see
a few Cats today, Barry On, Chris Rodriguez, Josh Allen. Anyway,
there's smell of grass and violence there. Man. I'm just
want to rish Billy and Marissa. You know, wish is
(23:41):
on their wedding.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, yeah, well, I can't wait to hear all about
Billy's wedding. We had a great time and we you know,
Ryan and I talked about that a little bit on Monday.
But uh, have fun down there, man, let us know.
Uh call back tomorrow and give us an update from
down there.
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Will I'll let you know how we're looking.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Man, all right, yep, thanks Jacob.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know you and I were talking during the break
camera speaking of football, and I didn't I don't know
if this has been up on the website for a
while or if it was just at it yesterday, but
somebody tweeted out different things that fans can do for
nil money involving the football team.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
For instance, I'll give you a couple here.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You can have pre game field access as a fan,
It says experienced Kroger field like a wildcat, Immediately following
the catwalk, your group of up to four guests will
enjoy fifteen minutes of exclusive access on the field, take
photos from the playing surface, run a route.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They're going to let you run a route.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and they've got this where you can buy it,
and they've got links there.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah. So there's one.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Let's see, what's another one here, there's one where you
can actually be a part of the catwalk itself. So
it says beople be part of one of Kentucky's most
cherished game day traditions from the best seat in the
house on the field. Join the Wildcat marching band, spirit squads,
and fellow Wildcats before kickoff as Kroger Field comes together
to sing My Old Kentucky Home. So I don't know
(25:07):
if you get to lead my Old Kentucky Home or what,
but I might.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Want to screen that one a little bit harder than
just yeah, somebody paying money for it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, hey, well Kentucky Joe.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I thought like something like letting somebody kind of experience
like a full game day behind the scenes in the
locker room, at training table, you know, in the film room,
everything that goes on, whether it's football or basketball, you know,
putting something like that and makes that available. I think
that would do well. But I love those ideas. Well.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, there's another one where you get to run out
with the team. I think they've got that one for
for like two hundred and eighty five dollars, you can
run out on.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
To the field.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I feel like we need to we need to get
that reasonable. Yeah, I mean really for two hundred and
eighty five bucks. I mean that's a very specific number.
I don't know why you wouldn't just round up and
call it three hundred, but whatever, you know, I'm not
in charge here, but I mean I think there would
be a lot of fans would pay two hundred and
eighty five dollars to run out on the field with
the team.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I do too, But I also think there'd be a
lot of fans that would pay three hundred dollars to
run out on the field of team.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So I'm looking on I think it's a yeah, I
think it's a cheap price. I mean, I think you
could probably go up to five hundred, and you would
have a lot of fans that would want to do that.
They've also got a coin toss delivery experience where I
guess you could run out and delivered the.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh US is no longer doing that or was that
the football they they delivered the football?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, so you get to run out and I
guess you get to deliver the coin for the coin
toss a lot of I mean they're getting you know,
Jay Batt as the athletic director. One of the things
that he's really good at in his MO is fundraising.
So I don't know if this is like from the
mind of Jay Batt or what, but those are definitely
things that I can see our fans paying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I mean, honestly, I can see fans of any team
that they love paying to do. I mean just for that,
you know, one time special experience depending on what it
costs and what it is, or maybe something you want
to do every day. I mean even just going down
on the field for fifteen minutes. And this sounds silly,
but mom was in high school when they used to
air the games at like eleven o'clock on Channel twenty seven.
(27:03):
I was part of the I got recruited into making
sure that the cables attached to the cameras nobody stood
on them so they wouldn't yank out as they moved
that camera up and down the field. So I was
on the field like for a lot of games in
high school, and it actually is so much cooler being
so close to those guys, you know, during a game.
I mean, you get a bigger sense when you're in
the stands, obviously, but being down there, this is how
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big some of these dudes are too.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Did you see what Akron is doing with their nil
and what they're allowing a fan?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Did you see this story from last week? So Acron
was so no.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We talk about, you know, fans maybe getting a little
too close to the team, like you mentioned maybe a
game day experience. I would be a little bit worried about,
you know, somebody from another team that you know, pretended
to be a Kentucky fan going into the locker room
and instilling the game player. That's not a bad thought, yeah,
you know, but but listen to what Akron's doing. So
Akron is doing this thing where if you buy season
(27:56):
tickets to a game, which is like, by the way,
seventy five bucks that's how much it is for season tickets, right,
They're going to put everybody's name into like a hat
or some sort of lottery and They're going to pull
out somebody's name who bought season tickets and they're going
to allow that fan to call the plays for the first.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Drive of the first game of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So I'm serious, No, this is a thing that they
are allowing a fan.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
To call the plays.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So if you want to call, you know, for Hill
Mary's straight or a flea flicker on the first game, I.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Mean, I mean talk about talking about, you know, buying
it and being on the other being for the other team.
That's just yeah, that's a little that's I agree that
that's a little too far. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure we would want that on on either way. And
the way they're just doing that as a lottery for
if you buy season tickets, that's not even a nil thing.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Then yeah, I guess so, yeah, I guess that's separate.
I mean, they're just.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
So and it's not even guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Right, They're just so desperate and get people to come
to Acron football. But here's the thing, A couple, well
a couple of things. Number One, what if the fan
ends up calling plays that leads to a touchdown in
the first drive, then all of a sudden, there's a
lot of pressure on the actual offensive coordinator because what
if what the actual office of coordinator they do three
and out on the next drive.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So well, I think I agree with that. I think
there's also be a learning curve for fans is in
general and understanding that, Yeah, look, the coaches have to
do their job, but the actual job's done by the players,
and if they would if they execute any play, especially
if I can if I'm just talking about the sport
I know about, I mean, if we just executed, no
(29:39):
matter what defense was there, we were going to score
or at least get a good shot. But you got
to execute. So you can call whatever play you want,
but you got to execute.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
The other thing is too, when's the last time you
ever watched an Acron football game? For me, never but
knowing that there's going to be a fan who's going
to be calling the plays in this first game, I.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Will be watching it just to see what's happen.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I think it's a brilliant, brilliant strategy for maybe
not for Kentucky, maybe not for an SEC school the time,
get a lot of eyes on them, but it's Akron
football for somebody like that. I think it's brilliant, because
now all of a sudden, I'm gonna be like, let's
watch this first drive and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, and you're right, it could
be funny. I'm sure they are going to limit it
in some way and say, okay, you got ten plays
one through ten. You just tell us which one, one, two, three,
four or five and make it as simple as they can.
And I have a feeling that the hail Mary's and
the punts and the field goal attepts from eighty five
yards won't be on there.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So see, I'm almost tempted to do it myself. I mean,
seventy five bucks what if? Yeah, I mean, I mean
you look, you got to me, the experience of calling
the game would be worth seventy five bucks, even if
I never went to a game at all that season
other than that game.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So but then again, yeah, you've got to get it's
still a lottery. You would have to buy these tickets
and then you got to get your name drawn out
of a hat or at least one of them. What
I guess ten, I guess it would be like seven home games.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Right, But I feel like they look.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I love the way a lot of these schools are
thinking like outside the box, and I'm glad we're doing
it too well.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You know, if I if I were to win that though,
I'm saying, no, give me the headset. I'm calling the
plays to the quarterback directly. I want full control over
this thing. Hey, yeah, you know you're you're in media now.
You kind of do the what you do the pregame
show for the basketball games. Talk to me just for
a minute about your old broadcast partner, Dave Baker, because
(31:26):
you guys together were just Radio Gold. You guys were
so entertaining. You guys bicker. You guys bickered back and
forth like an old married couple, and listeners, including myself,
really enjoyed that. I thought that there was some charm
behind the way that you guys did that broadcast. But
there were some people out there that thought that you
guys genuinely did not like each other. And I don't
(31:48):
think that's the case. But I don't want to speak
for you, but tell me about how it was working
with Dave, because you guys were growing each other.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
We've actually talked more, you know, since the season has
been over. Then we talk during the season and it's
probably just because we would see each other, you know,
every other every other day during the season at the show,
but no day, and I just look, we're both hardheaded,
we both got our opinions, and he isn't going to
back down on what he thinks because he's got forty
(32:14):
years covering the Cats in just about every sport. I'm
not going to back down because I had four years
playing for the Cats. So I mean, neither one of
us are gonna been And I'm I'm glad. I'm glad
someone Shannon enjoyed it because I just kept hearing, you know, no,
no thanks to the show that's following years. But because
(32:36):
that's where the I think the original phone calls came
from with the person saying, is they ed each other?
I promise we do not. I adore Dave and I'm
certainly going to miss him this year. Yeah you know,
he's not gone, he just won't be on the show.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, but you guys, you guys were so much fun
to listen to. Let's take a phone call. Let's go
to Jake.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Hey, Jake, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You tell us?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I just I just had a random question. So I
feel like Shannon, Me and your music paste kind of
a line the most. So I was just kind of
want to know, what are some of your favorite acoustic
covers or just acoustic songs in general.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Acoustic covers or acoustic songs in general, I would have
to think about that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Far as covers.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know, I grew up in the nineties loving the
grunge music, so the Sound Garden, Alfanes.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And STP and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think that Stone Tipple Pilots did a really good
acoustic cover of Dancing Days by Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think that's one of the best.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Covers that that that I've heard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But do you have one, Jake?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
One of my favorites is probably simple Man by Shonda
That's another one.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, the cover, that's one of my favorites. But that's
really all I had. I was kind of curious because
I feel like me and you have the same music paste,
so I just wanted to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Appreciate it all.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, Jake, Thank you. Cameron. What are you into? Do
you listen to a lot of music?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I do?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm one of those Uh, I love everything.
And we'll listen. I mean I've literally got of course
I don't have the CDs anymore, but had bagpipe CDs.
I mean, I've got every kind of every kind of
music except maybe opera. I love musicals, don't like opera.
I gotta be I'd like to understand the words that
are being sung. But you know you mentioned the grunge
(34:20):
music from the nineties that, well, when I was in
high school, that that's when that was formed. So I
mean just listening to pearl Jam and actually even becoming
a bigger pearl Jam than as I've gotten older. Basically,
anything that's a hard rock song done acoustically, well I'm
gonna love.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, you say you listen to bagpipe music? Did you
say that?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Oh right, Well, well, well let me clarify. I have
bagpipe CDs. I had bagpipe music on my phone in
my iPod when I had an iPod.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yes, were you?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
But what were you listening to to get ready for
a game or did you even have like a game
day song?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I know a lot of guys do to get.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Them pumped up. You weren't listening to bagpipes before the games?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Were you?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
No, no, no, no, But but I will tell you, hey,
listen the sky Ottish Army in World War One, they
were led through the trenches by pipers, so they would
get hyped up listen to pipes. So no, I just
love the sound of them. So it's just it's one
of those alternate down low or sometimes turned it up
by and it's just kind of in the background playing sometimes.
But the problem is is that it's hard to find
(35:17):
other appreciators of the screeching whales of the bagpipes, so
I don't get to listen to them unless I got
headsets on that often.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Are you Are you a wrestling fan or were you
a wrestling fan? Because I came across that video last
night of you and Scott Paget on w c W
in Louisville. Were you Were you just there because you
know w CW was in town?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Or were you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
So I was when I was a kid. I countless
hours of arguing with my dad about whether it was
real es fake, and then yeah no, and then UH
just kind of dropped it. Uh for well, honestly until
got to UK, and because of Scott Paget, and and
solely because of Scott Patget, because he just kind of
(36:02):
converted everybody. Everyone just started paying attention because it was
this weekly violent faker on fake soap opera that everybody
could follow along and we talk about you know, when
we weren't talking about other things. But like senior year,
Scott and Jeff Shepherd had were room roommates, did a
big screen TV and every Monday night the entire team
(36:25):
crashed into their room and watched WCW.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It was all the rage.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
When they were coming to Loibile, we just thought, no,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty Coolah. I was watching that video
last night. Somebody tweeted it out from years ago. But
that's a good stuff. All right, We got to take
a break. Final segment coming up next, will be right back.
If you want to get an eight, five, nine and
two eight twenty two eighty seven, it's the ksrpre show.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
To answer Jake's question, this is one of my picks
for my favorite covers, Dancing Days originally done by Led Zeppelin,
but STP did a good cover of it. All right,
final segment, we only got about five minutes left here
with Cameron.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Let's take a call that got Ryan on the line. Hey, Ryan,
how are you Hey, Ryan, go you're on with camera Mills.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Hey, okay, yeah, I'll go. I'll go quit Cameron. I've
talked to Matt and Shannon, a few of them about
the phone calls that quit taking a lot of the
old guys and the show on Coach Pope show, they
just don't seem people have complained about they don't take
the phone calls. And I want to know if they're
going to start taking phone calls and will Stein's going
to take them. But I remember you coming off that
(37:28):
bitch and against Stuke and hitting him three point shots. Man,
you were a good player, a good shooter. Thanks for
taking my call.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate it. We didn't last year, obviously,
I don't. As far as the Coaches shows, I guess
they did it the same way we did, which was
either use a text line for questions which makes it
easier for a call screen or to screen them, or
a Twitter. I think we use that, so I don't
think that's changing. Ryan, Sorry about that, but who knows.
(37:58):
Maybe maybe it'll just be made to go back to calls,
but yeah, I think it'll just I think going forward
it is just gonna be texts or and or Twitter
or x.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Back in your day, you know, when you were playing.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think even even to this day, Cameron, if we
were to rank guys that we would want taken a
last second three, I think you're gonna be like in
top five, top six probably all the time at Kentucky.
Talk to me about playing for coach Patino versus coach Smith.
What were the main differences in just I don't know, practice,
(38:29):
game day, prep, et cetera, just how they ran the program.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Playing for those two surprisingly different. And I say surprisingly
because we thought they were going to be. When coach
Smith got a job, we kind of expected immediately, okay,
there's you know, there won't be much change. He came
from coaches three, same play, same defense, saying, you know, practice,
maybe not as much yelling, and that turned out to
be true. But it was a lot a lot more different.
(38:56):
You know, we weren't pressing for forty minutes. It wasn't
up and down, it wasn't Patino's bomb. He knows, but
I don't. You know, we were talking about the beginning show, Stannon,
I don't. I couldn't have asked for a better four
years there, and part of that was having Rick Patino
as my coach for three years and then Tubby for
my last year. Because you know, I'm not saying Rick
(39:16):
Patino couldn't have gotten us to the national championship in
ninety eight, but to come in in your first year
and again back to building a team. I mean, we
were a team already, but to bring your coach in
and no one knows who he is, and for him
to get us to believe in him and to buy
into his system hoping that it worked, and turns out
it did. It was just amazing. And it's just I
(39:39):
don't know, It's one of those fun things when your
coaches can be such like father figures, and just as
you get older, they become like some of your most
valued and trusted relationships. And both of those guys are
for me, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Watching the two different styles, I think for fans it
was more fun to watch the full court press. But
as a player, as a player, though you're probably going
good beef coach, give us a break going up, well,
it was literally.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
To the point where you were not supposed to be
in the game longer than three or four, three minutes,
three minutes and thirty seconds a spell, and then you
were supposed to be taking yourself out because if you
weren't winded after playing that type of game for three
minutes and thirty seconds, then you weren't playing hard enough,
so coach Coach would didn't have to take you out.
So it was really the hell it was. But I
mean there were times when we would go full court
(40:24):
with Tubby, but coach t it was black white red.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Forty minutes a game, Yeah, we only got about a
minute left. I wanted to ask you one last question.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
As a former player now member of the media, is
there any of your former teammates that you think maybe
could jump over into media and do this thing if
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh, Scott Pageant, Scott Pageant.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, listen, people think that I talk a lot. Just
just go hang out with Scott if you ever get
a chance to. He got the nickname Jukebox his freshman
year for that very reason. He never shut up, and
then he had the goall one time during practice to
tell me that I never shut up.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh man, No, see, I done.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I think maybe a Scott Paget Cameron Mills podcast or
something like that in the future could work. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
When I'm my radio show, my favorite interviews were with
Scott because it was like I asked him one question
and he would do what I do sometimes, which is
just a filibuster.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Camera.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're out of time, man, I really appreciate you jumping
on here and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
All right, I appreciate you seeing it all right.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
There you go, cameraon Mills. Big thanks to camera for
jumping on here with us. Tomorrow, KSR and the KSR
Pre Show will be live from Shady Rays and Lobill
at the Oxmore Center. KSR is coming up next. We'll
talk to you later
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