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August 27, 2026 • 41 mins

Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk the latest on Mark Mitchell's eligibility, Meta gets sued, and Week 0 is here.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR Pre-Show. Today
is Thursday, August 27th. I'm Billy Rutledge along with Shannon
the Dude. You can give us a call on the
Clark's Pump It Shop phone line is 859-280-2287. Text us
at 502-265-6656. That's the Quantrell Auto Group text line. And

(00:23):
we are presented by Cornbread Hemp. Visit cornbreadhemp.com slash action
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Big thank you to them for sponsoring the show. It's
a big day today. We've got college football games, a
full FCS slate of games that you can watch on
ESPN +. Week zero is almost here. As well as

(00:46):
today is the 62nd annual ham breakfast. Shannon the Dude
is in the city of Louisville, Kentucky, where billionaires will
pay upwards of $ 10 million for a ham. At the
state fair today. Good morning, dude. It's one of our
favorite days of the year.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I love country ham, but I am not willing to
pay that much for a country. First of all, I
don't have that much. But even if I did, I mean,
wouldn't you rather just go ahead and just hand it
over to the charity?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Like, I can go buy my own country ham. Like,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
How much does a country ham cost if you go
buy one at, like, your local store?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I haven't bought a full ham in a while, so
I'm going to be off on my prices here. It's
got to be under $ 100, though, right? Like, that's not–
We're not playing three figures for a ham, but I
got to get something for giving away $ 10 million, not
just a tax write-off, I'm sure what it is, for
the Crafts, who won it last year in conjunction with

(01:38):
Central Bank for $ 10 million. But, Shannon, I'm going to
eat that ham. I don't know about you. It's not
just staying in my freezer or putting it on the shelf.
I'm going to be making breakfast sandwiches with that $ 10
million ham.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you know, you always see people that get these
really high-dollar liquor bottles, and they just sit there on
the shelf.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
They never open them.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
And I go, well, if you're going to have something
worth that much, why wouldn't you at least enjoy it,
like drink it? You just have it on there as
a display. So I've always wondered, like, what they do
with the country ham. Do they actually eat it? I mean,
you can't let it spoil. Why would you let a
$ 10 million ham spoil? So, yeah, you need to eat it.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Otherwise, I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You would preserve long-term a ham without it just spoiling.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, it feels a little different than a piece of
sports memorabilia you can spend a million dollars on and
then put it in your man cave. I don't really
know what to do with this ham. Now, we wrapped
the top of our wedding cake and put it in
the freezer.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
And we were told that like on the anniversary, you
got to get the cake out and have a little
bite of it.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So I don't have enough room if I'm wrapping a
ham in there as well, dude. So I'm not sure
what to do if I were to even win the ham, but.
We do have a KSR pre-show correspondent at the ham
breakfast this morning that will be giving us the news
as soon as it's been made. He's also already texted
me a few times this morning and said that Mark

(02:59):
Pope is there this morning.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Do you think that maybe Mark Pope will buy the ham?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, he needs that money for NIL. I don't know
if we have enough laying around to also pay for
$ 10 million hams, but. Mom Chilovich Moreno and McBride are
all at there and also an unnamed fourth player that
our person can't get a good look at.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
So do you think that like Mom Chilovich? Well, I
guess he is.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
He's he's born here in America, right?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think that's right. So I think he has some.
Some roots outside of the United States of recent, but
I think he was born in the States, yes.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Is country ham a big thing in other countries, or
is that just a thing here in America? Because I'm
just wondering, like, how many of these guys do you
think have actually had country ham? I'm not sure you've
had ham, but city ham and country ham are two
different things completely. If you've had ham but you've never
had country ham, then you've never really had ham. Because
country ham is far and away the superior ham.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Very different.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Very different hams. Very different.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It is country ham at the top, and there's a big, big,
big gap. And then all the way towards the bottom,
there's city ham.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Do you know what makes a ham country or city, Shannon?
Is it just in the preparation of the meat?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think it's the level of salt that's on it
because you will likely, I mean, there's a good chance
you will drop dead from like a heart attack, high
blood pressure, combination of both because it is so salty.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
But it is good ham, man. It's not something you
can eat every day.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, I think it's an acquired taste. Like I, I
didn't like it the first time I had it. And
then I think every single time I've had it, I've
liked it a little bit more. Um, so, but my
dad from the South always had it around when I
was a kid and that's how I got used to it.
I read on a news website that the event has
raised $ 54 million since 1964 with the proceeds going to
the winter Kentucky charity of choice. That's just, that's odd

(04:50):
to me that that shows you inflation, right? If you're
spending $ 10 million for the ham in recent years, uh,
And you've only raised $ 54 million since 1964. Those hams
weren't going for very much back in the 50s and 60s.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
It was affordable.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Is there a way we could look up how much
the first country ham actually went for? I'm going to
say it was like $ 30 or something like that.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Corey Price, if you're listening, I know you had a
birthday the other day. We need you to get back
to work. We need you to find the newspaper article
of the first ham sold at the 62nd Annual Ham Breakfast,
I guess 62 years ago.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
For me, I grew up on country ham.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was like every weekend, my grandparents, you go to
your grandparents' house, they had country ham and eggs. It
was country ham and sweet tea, so I grew up
on salt. Sodium and sugar was what I grew up on.
Maybe it stunted my growth a little bit. I think
I was going to be taller if I didn't eat
all that sodium and sugar and not enough protein.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I guess there was protein in ham, though.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You can say you're addicted to something, and it's country
ham and coffee, I guess, is the two things.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
And sorghum. Throw in some sorghum, too.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Banana croquette, right?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I'm telling you, country ham, sweet tea, sorghum, that's
a country breakfast right there.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Scrambled eggs.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah. We go to the garden and get a tomato, too.
I mean, got to have something from the garden on
the table, too, right? So that sounds like a Kentucky
breakfast that I would love to have this morning, but
I'll keep eating my protein bar and we'll get through
the day. You know, Shane and I am so tired
of this Mark Mitchell NCAA. Is he eligible? Is he not?
But it is the story dominating sports right now. And

(06:19):
we had an interesting development yesterday with the intra-conference transfer
rules that are now under scrutiny. So now while Mark
Mitchell has gotten a temporary restraining order to allow him
to enter the transfer portal, the SEC is fighting back.
in saying this is not the transfer portal he was
supposed to enter. So he is still subject to punishments

(06:42):
if Mark Mitchell were to play for Kentucky. And some
of these punishments are a little jarring, Shannon. You can
have the half-season suspension for head coaches if an ineligible
player who previously signed a pro contract comes back and
plays in the SEC. The SEC voting privileges rights can
be revoked on business matters for the school in violation

(07:02):
of the rule. A hefty fine of 50% of that
sports annual operating budget is at play if someone like
Mark Mitchell were to play for Kentucky. And the league
retains the rights to levy other penalties by Greg Sankey
and or SEC president or chancellors if necessary. So now,
while Mark Mitchell may be a cat and eligible due

(07:23):
to this temporary restraining order, now the SEC is saying
that if somebody did go to a pro league and
has come back to play, there is now a chance
they would suspend the head coach for half the season.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So now what I'm hearing is this is all going
to go back in court again, right?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Probably, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because otherwise, if the SEC rule is upheld, then that
would mean Mark Mitchell definitely would not be eligible. Because
you know that Mark Pope is not going to risk
all these things that you just laid out there being
suspended for half a season and all the other things
that come along with it. So that means they're going
to go back to court. So our court is going
to have to overrule the SEC's rule again. Otherwise, we're

(08:03):
back to Mark Mitchell being ineligible. I'm with you, man.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm so over it.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
If it weren't my job to sit here and talk
about it, I wouldn't think twice about it, but I'm
to the point almost, Billy, where I'm like, let's just
get to the season. Whoever is eligible is eligible because
it's like one day they are, one day they're not.
And it's a yo-yo back and forth every day.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Is this not the conference that let a G League
player play for a team last year with no punishment?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Same conference, right?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
That would be Alabama. You're right.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
But now we've all gained morals and we decided that
this line in the sand needs to be made for
the class of 2022, which didn't get a fifth-year eligibility.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Because the NCAA decided to make this five-year– play five
years rule that is just changing everything, including the class
of 2022, who did not have the opportunity to enter
the transfer portal when their eligibility is up. I feel
like that's just the smoking gun in all this is
that it was not that they couldn't– it's not that
they didn't join the transfer portal at the right time.

(09:02):
They couldn't, right? So you're right, though, Shannon. Mark Pope
will not– do anything that might cost his team suspensions
or fines later down the road. So I think this
is a significant development when it really comes to, is
Mark Mitchell going to play for the Kentucky Wildcats next year?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, and again, I think it goes right back to
court again. Otherwise, he's not going to play for Kentucky.
I mean, if they don't take it back to court...
And again, what's the point of having a rule if
you're not going to enforce it? This is the whole
rule is not a rule without a.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Punishment, which is very true.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So yeah, I think that it sounds like the SEC
is going to try to uphold that rule. And the
only thing that could change that would be a judge.
So here we go again, right? We're right back to it.
And by the way, if you're listening and you're having
a hard time following this, don't feel alone because we
are too.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's absurd.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
The absurdity of college sports is hitting an all-time new level.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And to add to it, on the great website KentuckySports.com.
Nick Roush had an article about the NCAA, and it's
starting to win appeals and overturn these temporary restraining orders.
In the state of Tennessee, Jalen Washington, a 6'10 forward,
transferred from Vanderbilt to Tennessee about a month ago, thanks
to those TROs. There was one in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm not going to lie, I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
He went to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
He did not play for Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Take that, Jalen Washington.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So if this is any precedent for what would happen
in other states, you know, I got to think Mark
Mitchell might be at the mercy of the SEC standing strong,
along with other conferences now. The Big 12 has come
out and said any player that joined a pro league
cannot come back and play for them. The ACC is
expected to do so today.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Shannon, is Kentucky still a... final four contender without Mark Mitchell,
or do you feel like really, you know, the promise
of the season hangs on if they can get this
guy eligible?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Uh, no, I, yeah, I don't think that they're a
final four contender. If you said like put a ceiling
on it, I, I'm probably looking at like sweet 16,
but again, if you can get to the sweet 16,
you can get to the elite eight. If you can
get to the elite eight, you can get to the
final four. If you can get to the final four,
you can win a championship run.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So, I mean, it's so hard to like, as I
was saying, uh, Monday, you know, adding a guy to
the roster, it's really hard to put a win total
on it. I mean, is Mark Mitchell on Kentucky's team?
Does it make Kentucky go from a 22-win team to
a 25-win team without him? It's hard to put a
number on it. But, I mean, if you're looking at

(11:34):
maximizing your potential, not having Mark Mitchell on the team
is a huge blow, considering you thought that you had
him on the roster just a few days ago.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So it's like.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
They give it, then they take it away, just like that.
You went from happy to now we don't know what
to think. It's a rollercoaster of emotions.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, and a good player, too, a guy that dropped
20 on Kentucky last year, so could really be a
good depth piece and maybe even a starter if he
was at Kentucky this next year in a spot where
Kentucky needs some depth, that four spot in the frontcourt.
But think of this, Denzel Aberdeen, who entered his name
in the portal at the correct time, would still be
eligible despite the SEC touting these rules and punishments out.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Because he did it in April.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Because he did it when he didn't have any eligibility left,
which was such a head-scratcher at the time. But him
and his team were ahead of it and were able
to recognize what the landscape would be. It's because Mark
Mitchell didn't enter the transfer portal at the right time,
in the SEC's mind, would make him ineligible. But We'll
let the lawyers and the courts figure that out, and

(12:38):
we'll just react to it every morning on the pre-show, Shannon,
because that's what we're talking about as we inch closer
to football season. But don't worry, we do have some
football tonight. On the other side of our break, we'll
talk about some of the matchups that we can see tonight,
including Youngstown State, Kentucky's first team, first opponent we'll be
playing tonight.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Mercyhurst.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Who's that?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Mercyhurst. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Where is Mercyhurst at?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Tom Leach and I were talking off the air. We're like, yeah,
that kind of sounds more like a hospital. And I said, well,
it's probably going to be a slaughtering tonight, so maybe
they need to have one nearby.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Like an all-girls school or something.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to learn a whole
lot about our opponent because I think that this is
one of those teams that even Youngstown State will probably–
beat 60-0.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, I want to talk about it. We've got some
Kentucky teams playing today. You can watch that all on
ESPN +. Dolly Parton has an unreleased song waiting for
her 100th birthday. I want to get into it a
little bit. Only 20 more years. Only 20 more years
until we get that. Better than AI, though. Better than
the family making an AI song afterwards. And much more
on the way. If you'd like to give us a call, 859-280-2287.

(13:44):
You're listening to a Thursday edition of the KSR Pre-Show.
Welcome back. Very special day here on the KSR Pre-Show.
It's ham breakfast day.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Milan Mamchilovic, the Crafts, Mark Pope, all out there at
the Kentucky State Fair to bid on a ham. Hell,
Milan could almost pay for the ham himself. With that
$ 6 million, he'll be making NIL money for Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It depends on how much it goes for. If it
goes for $ 10 million last year, it would be probably
a disappointment if it went for less, wouldn't it?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Don't you have to keep going up every year?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
If you care about charity, right?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I guess that's the whole.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Point of you being there. That's right.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Maybe your pockets are not so deep after you paid
$ 10 million last year for that country ham.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
What time are you going to be out there tomorrow night?
Because the wife and I are going to be there,
so we're going to be hanging out, right? We still
doing this?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yes, absolutely. I have to be there.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm working.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm your emcee, your master of ceremonies.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So you don't want to hang out. You just have
to be there.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, I don't want to hang out. Don't get your
feelings hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I want to hang out, but I've got to be there,
I think, by 7, so I'll probably get there around 6.30,
maybe 6, something like that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay. That means all the kids will have an adult
chaperone with them around that time. So that works for me.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Keep the kids away from you. We know Billy hates kids.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
We've got college football games today. Ten days until Kentucky
takes on Youngstown State, and Week Zero starts on Saturday.
with a few matchups like North Carolina versus TCU in Dublin.
By the way, I don't really like international college games.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
No, I really don't like the NFL games that are
in other countries, but I understand what they're trying to do.
They're trying to expand the brand and, you know, bring
the games to them.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
But isn't what make college great? Like the campuses and
like the traditions.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Dublin. TCU. Do they not have their own universities over
there in Dublin?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Dublin.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
They don't have their own schools. Why do we got
to impose on them?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
We could watch their American football teams play in Dublin.
But yeah, we get a little chance of Bill Belichick
and TCU, Dan Mullins with UNLV coming back into the fold.
So there's a lot of interesting storylines. But Shannon, when
you watch college football on ESPN this year, they are
getting rid of the bottom line ticker during college football broadcast. ABC, ESPN, ESPN2,

(16:05):
the SEC Network, the ACC Network, and ESPNU. They want
to create a cleaner presentation that keeps the focus where
it belongs, on the field. What do you think about
ESPN getting rid of a staple of sports broadcasting, I
feel like, in the last 30, 40 years? The bottom
line ticker during college football.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm actually.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
in favor of this. I feel like we've gotten to
the point where there's too much going on.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It looks like.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
CNBC with all the stocks going up and down and vertical.
I'm trying to watch the game. I don't need to
know what's going on in all these other games. I
have my phone for that. Billy, I am so old,
I can remember when games didn't even have a score bug.
The score that's constantly up there on the screen. I
can remember watching baseball games, and if you weren't watching

(16:51):
the game from the beginning, you could just turn it on.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
In the middle of the game, you have no idea
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You had to wait until the half inning, and after
three outs, they would show the score going into the
commercial break. And then maybe they would show it coming
out of the commercial break. But every time in between,
there was nothing on the screen. You had nothing but
the game. And I think back then it was probably
because screens were smaller. But now everybody's got these nice
big 70-inch flat screen TVs, or at least most people do,

(17:18):
not everybody. And now they feel like they could do
that and they could put score bugs and everything else
on there. But I'm with you, man. I don't know
how you feel about this, but I'm with them. Let's
take it off there. We don't need all that. Let's
watch the game.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I'm really torn on this. I'm torn. It's not the
correct sports radio opinion to have, but look, I completely
get what you're saying, that I get all my scores
on my phone instantly. My phone plays a chime and
can play the video highlight of the best plays as
they happen. So is it out of date to need
to know the Yankees are up 6-2 on the Red

(17:55):
Sox in the bottom of the sixth while I'm watching
another game?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Put it on ESPN News if you want that.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
But I also feel like there is going to be
a hole on the screen with it not there. I
don't know. Maybe that's just me and I've grown up with.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
The scores there.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're getting more of the game. No, it's just going
to be, I don't know, it's going to feel plain.
It's like a cake with no icing or no writing
on it. It feels like there's something missing.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
You should go, what I'm talking about, go on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And I think the score bug was introduced maybe in
like the 93, maybe 94 NFL season. But go watch
a game on YouTube from like before that. There's no
score bug. See, that's crazy. See if that drives you insane.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I need to know the play clock, how much time's left.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, there was no imaginary yellow line that tell you
where the first down marker was. You just watched it
and you had to rely on the commentary team to
tell you if it was a first down.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
See, now, that's not happening. The score bug will still
be up there. But I feel like I will be
missing something with the bottom line not there. It'll take
three weeks, right? And then we'll all be on board
and it'll all be normal. But the bottom line ticker
going away on ESPN broadcasts this year for college football.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I felt like I would get distracted by it a
lot of times. I guess it gave you something to
watch in between plays.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, sometimes it spoils stuff, right?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know, going to halftime and seeing highlights for the
first time can be pretty fun unless you've already seen
the score and that, you know, Texas is up 28
on Oklahoma. Then it kind of takes the anticipation away.
You know, sometimes during the, like the British open or
the open, as they call it, it's played so early
in the day, you watch something later in the day
and you have it recorded. It's going to tell you

(19:39):
the winner at the bottom, right? So it can, it
can spoil some stuff for you too, but it seems
to be the end of an era when it comes
to college football. Some games today. If you want to
check out some college football. week zero again is on
saturday But we do have an FCS slate if you
log into ESPN +, including a host of Kentucky teams. Shannon,
you might tune in to Moorhead State hosting Ohio Dominican

(20:02):
today at 6 p.m. on ESPN +.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, that depends on how hardcore of a football fan
you really are. Or if you're a Moorhead fan, I
guess you'll be watching it. Do you know anything about
Ohio Dominican? No.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Ohio Dominican?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, that's what it says here. I don't know anything
about Ohio.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I don't even want to guess what Ohio Dominican is.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Murray State hosts Eastern Illinois at 7 p.m. You really
can get into Austin Peay and Gardner Webb playing today
at 7 o'clock today.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Gardner Webb has a football team?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Gardner Webb has a football team. Like UVA Wise at Presbyterian.
Another 7 o'clock matchup on ESPN +.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Boy, if this lineup doesn't get your blood boiling, I
don't know what will for college football fans.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Central Arkansas at UT Martin, or maybe the South Dakota
Mines at Drake. These are all matchups today that you
can find most games, if not all games, on ESPN +,
because who's broadcasting Chattanooga at West Georgia? But you might
be a sicko out there that wants to watch a
little college football, and you can do that today. So, Shannon,

(21:06):
just a reminder that we are not too far away
from actually getting underway and having stuff to talk about.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, and you can actually bet all these games on DraftKings.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Let's say you want to throw down some big bucks
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Speaker 1 (22:07):
See, I don't mind it in the NFL. Like that
international game, it starts early in the morning. You can
watch football all on your Sunday morning. For college, it
just seems a little out of place. Like, what do
you need to go to Dublin for? It's, you know,
a lot of people traveling for these games, not just
fans in Dublin going to them. So we'll take a break.
Got much more on the way here on this Thursday

(22:29):
edition of the KSR Pre-Show.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Welcome back.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It is starting to feel a little bit like fall
out there. crisper weather, cooler air, and hopefully with football
season starting, we'll fully go into that transition. It looks
like the auction is about to start, according to our
sources here on the KSR Pre-Show, so stay tuned of
what the country ham will sell for at the State
Fair today. Corey Price did it. He found on September 16, 1964,

(23:03):
Garnett Dick bought the first prize country ham for $ 140,
equivalent to $ 1, 508 today. Dude, so there's your answer. What
a deal. Only $ 140 back in 1964. What a deal.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Just think, he bought that for, what did you say,
$ 100 and some dollars, and then now it's $ 10 million
for that ham?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
That's a heck of a discount.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
It is.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It is.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And it shows you how much everything has gone up
in price.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Except for concessions at Kroger Field, though.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Those are going down.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Um, I just retweeted that at belly are sports. If
you want to read the article from 1964, that Corey
price retweeted Shannon, I got to go to the dentist today.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh, good luck.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is there anything worse than the sound of that drill
as it cleans your teeth? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I haven't had one yet, but I would say a
colonoscopy would probably be worse.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, what do you mean? I mean, you're just passed
out for that. I've had a colonoscopy before. I mean,
there's nothing to it really besides going to sleep and
then waking up.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
But all the prep stuff you got to do too, though, right?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Oh, okay. Good point, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You really don't have to prep at all to go
to the dentist. I mean, maybe brush your teeth as
a courtesy unless you want to go in there with
stink breath.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I brush my teeth as hard as I ever do.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
God bless dentists that probably have to deal with some
nasty-ass teeth and mouths.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh, my God. That's something I could not do.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh, yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I had breakfast this morning. It's still in there.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah. So it was last night's dinner. Don't floss your teeth.
Don't brush.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I know my dentist listens to this show, and I'm like, oh, God,
I don't see how you do this. I'm sure they
can't talk about it. It's probably some sort of, like,
I don't know, code of ethics.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is there a HIPAA law for your dental records, too?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You can't call out people by name, but I'm sure
there's some nasty mouths that walk into those dentists, and
those people have to deal with the stink and everything else.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh, and they know when they walk in, too, right? Oh,
there's Shannon again.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Not me.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I've got great teeth.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh, yeah? When's the last cavity you've had? Oh, I
had one time when I was a little kid, and
that was the last one. I said, uh-uh, and that's
never happening again. Yeah. Uh-uh.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I have great teeth.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I brush my teeth three times a day. I do
the water pick thing.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You do three times a day?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
At least twice.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I'm not going to tell you every day is three times.
At least, bare minimum, twice a day, morning and night.
And if you don't, you're nasty.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Mouthwash. I do the whole nine yards, right?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
So I don't want to be that person. I don't
want to be that person going in with the nasty mouth. But,
you know, I always wonder, like, people that come in
with one tooth, do they get a discount? You're not
doing nearly as much work. Same thing with people that
go in to get their hair cut, but they have
a horseshoe. You know, they're bald and they got the
horseshoe thing. Like, do they get a discount on their haircut?

(25:44):
You're not cutting nearly as many hairs as somebody that
had a full head of hair.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You think that applies to dentists?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know, I'm not sure, but I got to think
their gums are bleeding the entire time.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, you only got like three teeth. You only got
a jack-o'-lantern walking in there. I mean, they only got
to work on those two or three teeth. I would
think you would get them for cheap.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, they might not spend a lot of time in
the dentist if they only have three teeth.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Maybe there's a situation where you got to get some
fake teeth. You see somebody with veneers, Shannon, that's a
weird process. You got to grind down the teeth to
even put those in. I've heard you shouldn't get those.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I heard somebody one time actually say, I thought you
had veneers. Like, nope, these are all natural.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
ASMR there with the teeth. You do have some white
teeth over there.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Well, you know, that's what happens three times a day.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
That'll do it for you. I, you know, you never
brush harder than the night before you go to the
dentist and, or the morning of, right. I got to
make up for all the, the poor brushing I do
by doing it like that. Shana, let's talk about a
sports topic here. Kentucky basketball has exhibition games versus Travis
Ford and Arkansas little rock. They also have one versus
Texas tech. And there are reports that they have another

(26:54):
one in the works. You can now have three exhibition games. Well,
what do you think about this news story? Auburn and
Alabama will play an exhibition game this year in October.
They will meet on a neutral court in the Birmingham
Convention Center. And if the event sells out, both schools
will make six figures that will go back to their program.

(27:15):
Bama swept Auburn last year. They played twice. But now
they will play an exhibition game before the season starts.
Do you like it?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, do they play each other? I'd have to look
up their schedule. Do they play each other twice already
in the regular season?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I'll look that up now because they played twice last year.
I'm not sure about this year.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I'm wondering if they do because if so, then that's
three times you would play them, potentially four if you
see them in the SEC tournament. And then, well, I
guess possibly four times if you see them in the
NCAA tournament, right?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You can play that team a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, it could be four times in one season if
you played twice and you played in the SEC and
then you played in the NCAA. They do play twice
this year. They play Saturday, January 30th, and then Saturday,
March 6th. Yeah, so three times they're going to play
each other this year. I mean, it's a little strange, but,
I mean, they're in-state, so I guess I get it.
But doesn't that take away a little bit from what

(28:09):
you get in the regular season? Like if Kentucky played
Louisville in an exhibition game, I don't think I would
like that. because part of what makes it special is
you get it one time a year, and maybe twice,
but if you get it a second time, loser goes home.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So the stakes are even higher. I don't know that
I would want to play one of my biggest rivals.
I mean, I guess that is their biggest rival, right? Alabama-Auburn,
your biggest rival in an exhibition game, especially when you
already play them twice, and as we said, possibly three times.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm kind of with you. The buildup to that game
that matters in the regular season is a lot of
fun and kind of what makes you become a sports
fan in the first place, right? If it's an exhibition
game and it doesn't matter, it would be a great
way for your program to make money, right? And that's
what everybody's doing. And maybe in a world where J-Bat,
the fundraiser, wants to make a little bit more money,

(28:58):
it's something that we could see. Kentucky, Louisville at Freedom Hall.
in an exhibition game before the season starts. But I
I'm with you. The magic of that game would probably
be lost a little if you had a preseason matchup,
but boy, would people show up and watch, right? I mean,
we'd all be locked in for it.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So yeah, people would still be there regardless.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
And it just means so much to us though.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
It'd be like Auburn-Alabama football teams playing a game that
doesn't matter right before the season starts.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's why I think, and I guess I'm biased because
I live in Kentucky, grew up watching Kentucky, Louisville, love
the rivalry. But I think that's, to me, Kentucky Louisville
you get it once a year Duke North Carolina you
get that twice sometimes three times in the conference right
Auburn Alabama you get that too now three times a
year but Kentucky Louisville you get it one time and

(29:49):
to me I think that's that's a big reason why
that rivalry is is the biggest one in college basketball,
regardless if ESPN thinks of it as that and the
rest of the country thinks of it that way.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I think it's good not being in the same conference.
You get it one time.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, if Duke and North Carolina played in the preseason,
we could get that matchup seven times in a season,
or at least it feels like with as many times
as those two teams play each other in a regular season. Shannon, Metta.
agreed to pay $ 18 billion in the teen safety settlement.
I don't know if you've seen this going on as
we're lawyers. And we talk all about the Mark Mitchell

(30:25):
stuff lately. There's another huge court case that what's been
going on as, um, several different States, including Kentucky were
suing meta, the pay, the parent company of Facebook and
Instagram for, um, you know, not having a safe place
for teens to go online. And, The negative effects of

(30:45):
mental health when it comes to social media is very
well documented. But yesterday they came to a settlement agreement
and Meta has agreed to make some certain changes to
Instagram and Facebook for teens ages 13 to 17 that
I want to get your opinion on. Here are some
of the new changes that are coming to teens on
these sites, including a two-hour daily limit on Instagram and Facebook.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Remember, You also have mandatory pauses after 15 minutes of
continuous use and again at 60 and 90 minutes to
interrupt endless scrolling. The apps will also restrict children's access
from 12 a.m. midnight to 6 a.m. So the apps
will shut off during nighttime hours. And they will also

(31:32):
limit school time access for children, eliminating push notifications on
weekdays from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. There's a couple
other things that they're deciding to change, like no numbers
on the amount of likes that some of your posts get,
so you're not comparing with other people. But what do
you think of some of the changes that Meta's going
to be making to Facebook and Instagram after this?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
This is just my opinion, but to me it sounds
like Meta is being held responsible to do the job
of what parents should be doing to their kids. If
you don't want your kids to be on social media constantly,
take their damn phone.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
You're probably paying for it anyway, right?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
So if you want to limit them to being on
Facebook for two hours a day, then as a parent,
take the phone away from them.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Why does Meta have to be the parent?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
If parents would do their job, then I don't think
Meta would have to even worry about this. But Meta
is being held responsible for being too addicting. And I'm saying, well, okay,
if I had a kid that I didn't want.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
To be on Facebook, I would take their phone from them.
It's that simple. I feel like everybody else is like–
It feels like.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Parents and everybody just in general want to blame somebody
else for their own addictions. Like, it's your fault. Well, no,
it's really your fault. You're consuming it. You're telling me
you can't put the phone down? To me, that's the
parent's job to limit it to two hours a day.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Not Meta's. Meta's just existing.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I don't disagree, but do you not think that Meta
has any responsibility to not make its content as addictive
as it is to children? I mean, children is different
than adults. We all have the, we all have, you know,
we can all make our own choices, right? If I
want to go on TikTok or maybe in this instance,
Facebook or Instagram and spend all day on it, that's
my prerogative, but it's about protecting children who are always

(33:18):
going to do something that's popular or maybe behind parents' backs.
I agree with you. There is a responsibility of the parent,
but I would not make it so meta is not
absolved from any of the scrutiny that, from parents about
the product that their children are interacting with.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
If you're going to go down this road, though, you
can blame video games. Video games are too addictive. We're
going to blame... Video games now for existing and being
so addictive that kids, all they want to do is
be on video games? Or is it the parents to
go in and go, hey, you get one hour on
this game tonight.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
That's it. Or are we going to sue the video game.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Companies because these games are too addictive and they're on
these games and these games, you know, they know what
they're doing. These games are so entertaining that they're too addictive.
And now my kid won't go outside. All it wants
to do is play video games. At some point, you
got to blame the parents. The parents have got to
step in and take some responsibility here.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
To your point, Meta has denied that its platforms harm children.
Meta did not admit any wrongdoing as part of the settlement.
And actually, the states were suing for like a trillion dollars.
1.4 trillion was the initial number. The settlement comes down to,
what did I say, about $ 18 billion when it comes
to teen safety. You know, not the take I was

(34:31):
expecting from you, dude, but I don't entirely disagree. I
do think Meta needs to be held responsible. And these
things can go a long way from helping that You know,
the endless scrolling is a big one.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
How about this? If you're 13, don't be on Facebook.
You don't need to be on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, but that's an out-of-touch opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Social media with kids is huge.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's everything.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Where do they have access to it, though, if they
don't have a phone?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Their computer. Their laptop. You know, schools give out laptops
and iPads now for school.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
And they let them get on Facebook during school hours?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I don't know. But this goes to that point. It
is blocking push notifications during school hours. I think are
all helpful things for children. But it's foolish to think
that they can just not have a Facebook or not
have a phone in 2026. It is everything to these
kids in their self-image as well. Right. That's why I
think the likes thing is a big one. You know,

(35:26):
to see one of your friends has 500 likes compared
to you that can only get like 20.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
But that's life, man. Like, that is life. That's a
life lesson. Not everybody's going to be the popular kid.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's like, let's protect all these kids from all the
popular kids that are out there because we don't want
them to get their feelings hurt. Like, that's just life.
Some people are more popular than you. I want to
be the most famous person in the world.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
But you know what? I'm not. So you know what?
That's just life. That's just how it is.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's true. But in life, right now, we have a
mental health problem. issue with a lot of our youth
in this country COVID went a long way with that
when we got locked in and the only thing we
had with our cell phones but I can even go
back to when I was 12 and 13 and Facebook
was a big deal and this was something that I
took a lot of stock in and I imagine a
lot of kids do across this world so I don't

(36:15):
think it's you know entirely the fault of meta like
you were saying dude I think the parents should have
a responsibility there but this is gonna go this is
gonna I think go a long way when it comes
to helping the kids that are on these social media
sites What an interesting discussion that we had here this morning.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
You get scrolling on Instagram, dude. It's hard to stop, man.
I can imagine you're 15, too.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I guess maybe it's different for a 43-year-old man versus
a 14-year-old.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
But again, I would say don't let your kids on it.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
You as the parent, I guarantee you there's not many
14-year-olds out there that have phones that they pay for.
So if you're the parent and you bought that phone,
you're paying that bill, take the phone away from them
if you don't want them scrolling on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Done yeah but who doesn't have a phone nowadays dude
i mean that's just that's reality yeah it's it's not
the 80s anymore and the only thing on the table
is what was in the farm shannon i think that
everybody's locked in to their phones right now and the
guidelines and parameters that this is making is is i
think eventually going to have a positive impact but 18

(37:19):
billion dollars meta is going to have to pay to
some of these states including kentucky 859-280-2287. We need to
take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about
Dolly Parton's secret song. And Shannon, an interesting development in
the NFL. They're canceling the Pro Bowl after 75 years.
I want to talk about that as well. We'll be
right back here for one more segment of the KSR Pre-Show.

(37:39):
Welcome back. Our final segment, another Dolly Parton cover here.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
You know what the song is, don't you?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Of course. Yeah, absolutely. It's Freebird.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Freebird.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I just love that she was not afraid to cover
these different types of songs. We talked about Stairway to
Heaven yesterday. And I'm sure you're playing this because we've
been teasing this story I saw about Dolly's unreleased song.
It is locked inside a chestnut box at Dollywood's Dream
More Resort in Pidgin Forge, Tennessee. It plans to be

(38:11):
released in 2046 on Dolly's 100th birthday. The box includes
a letter to the future from Dolly. The Secret Song
and a Way to Play It, and Handwritten Song Lyrics. Shannon,
that kind of piques my curiosity. The Secret Song and
a Way to Play It. Did she burn a CD?
Is there a CD player in there?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
A cassette?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Here's the thing. First of all, I think it's a
really cool idea.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah. She recorded the song, I think, 10 years ago,
they said, with the intention of releasing it on her
100th birthday.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
But.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Don't you think, Billy, it's only a matter of time
before some crazy Dolly fan breaks in, steals it, and
we get it released before the next 20 years?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
If you had to put money on it, do you
think that it stays locked in there for the next
20 years, or do you think that some crazy Dolly
fan breaks in in the middle of the night? It's
the Dolly 100th birthday song heist. If they take the
Mona Lisa or whatever it was, they can take a
Dolly song.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I can tell you that. I don't think this song
lasts 20 years.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe there might be somebody that
gets a little too close and security gets tightened for
the next 20 years.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Like I, we can't let this get out before 2046.
It would be a tragedy. I think it will.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
But I like this. Like I, mentioned this earlier i
don't know if i'm a big fan of the estate
going back and releasing ai music right yeah releasing songs
without the permission of the artist and here's.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
The thing i mean chris cornell from soundgarden He was
working on, I think they said, seven or eight songs
before he passed away, but they're not necessarily complete. But Soundgarden,
the other guys, the musicians, have gone in and they
have put together those songs the best that they can,
and they're going to release another Soundgarden album at some point.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Last one with Chris Cornell's vocals. Now, it is his vocals,
but maybe not.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, but did he want this released?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Well, we can't dig him up and ask him. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But he was working on them with the intention of,
I'm sure, them being released one day.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah. So... And he got the blessing from the estate.
So what else do you want?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
It doesn't seem right.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
It doesn't seem right to me. I think this will
get more egregious, though, as the years go on, right?
We're just going to get full studio albums based on
the AI likeness of somebody.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
We already get the thing from the Beatles with John Lennon.
Wasn't that AI they used to piece all that together?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Was that the one we had to play on KSR?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
We had to play it on KSR. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Twice.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
We had to play it every hour.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
That was such a funny show. I remember that. Uh,
Sam is up next. Sam, you gotta be quick. Just
like 30 seconds or so.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
I gotcha. I appreciate you all talking about the phone thing.
So I work at a phone company for a few years.
Won't say what actually shut out to the pickleball anyways. Um,
this year, especially around, around school time, this, this time
of year, kids around seven to 10 years older are
getting smartphones, dude. And it's not, it's not an uncommon
thing now. So my thing is with you guys, uh,

(41:11):
What's the age there? I mean, to me that seems crazy, but,
you know, whatever. Can't stop them. Yep.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
What age are you going to give a kid a phone, Shannon?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
High school.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh, you got to go before that.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I don't have to. I can do whatever I want.
You asked me.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Well, the kid starts leaving the house. You want to
know where they're at.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Well, they're on the bus.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
They're at school. I'm sure you're going to put Life
360 on it. We have an announcement. $ 10 million split
between Kelly and Joe Kraft and Central Bank win the
auction again. The same as last year, dude. The same number,
the same people.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Those Krafts love that country ham, don't they?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
God, they love that ham.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Hey, promo code KSR on DraftKings. Bet five, get 150
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Speaker 4 (41:49):
All right.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Thanks for listening today. KSR is coming up next. For
Shannon the Dude, I'm Billy Rutledge. This has been the
KSR Pre-Show. Talk to you tomorrow.
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