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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
I'm a body positive advocate.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Carolina Bermudez Sony Nika a WinCE, but I was
born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
and a worker bee.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is life in Spanglish.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, this is my special request. Honey. You have been
wanting to do a Bad Bunny special and I am
here for it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Especialis San Benito.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio born March tenth is San Juan,
Puerto Rico. Deep, if not the biggest Latin artist out
right now, deserves a full life in Spanglish episode. If
y'all want to argue, I don't want to argue. I
want to fight.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh my gosh. No. I love this so much because
when you talk about Bad Bunny, you light up and listen.
I'm a bad but I'm not, as you know, entrenched
in Bad Bunny or his lifestyle or his music. I mean, listen,
I love Umberano Sinti, but I'm gonna be honest. That
is like my first real deep dive into bad Bunny,
which I think is enough, you know what I mean,
(01:15):
Like I loved the album. I was so here for it.
We played it non stop. My kids even love it,
you know. But there is so much to talk about
when it comes to his life, his career, the impact
that he's making on the industry. I mean, this guy
is it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
This man has won three Grammys, four Lave Grammys, eight
Billboard Music Awards, thirteen Premio Lo Nuestro, Like the list
just goes on and on and on. And this is
only speaking about him musically.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right right, And I think that you know, we're we're
really not even gonna talk about as much, you know,
because I mean, we only have so much time in
every year exactly. The girl. Think the impact that he's
had on even just our culture, you know, Latura. You know,
he has opened up people's eyes to being more accepting.
He has owned who he is. He is just so
(02:08):
incredibly centered and what he stands for and what he's
about and being Latino and expressing that, you know. And
so I just feel like there's a lot to dig
into with Bad Bunny here. So you know, first off,
let's talk about, you know, how he came up, Like
can you give me more of a background, because from
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what I heard, he was just doing shows and things
and he really just it's that whole dream, you know.
He believed in himself and he kept telling people, I'm
going to be the greatest artist in the world. And
it's like boom manifested. It happened.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Now, it's crazy. He wanted to go eat you know,
he was living in Puerto Rico. He wanted to go
to college, and he just followed his dreams. He decided,
I want to be an artist. You know. He started
collaborating with artists in Puerto Rico and then I don't know,
it just feels like Bad Bunny just boom came out
of nowhere. But from day one, I'll tell you this
much about Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny was unique. He was
(03:02):
a trendsetter. He was, you know, bending all the rules
and just doing something that was so just original and
knew that it took everybody by a storm, like.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Immediately, definitely, and I have to imagine that, you know,
being in Puerto Rico, and from what I know, he
doesn't come from a musical family, so even that in
itself kind of making your own way and finding your
own way in the music industry. That has to be challenging.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Girl, His parents were just working class parents. He used
to pack supermarket bags for a living. If this can
give you a good, you know, picture of who beneath
the was before Bad Bunny, he was just a regular
kid in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wow, it really is incredible. And now he's out there
and we're going to get into it a little bit later.
He is potentially dating one of the daughters of one
of the most famous families in all of America. I mean,
it doesn't get crazier than this. Now, earlier this year,
I remember hearing about Bad Bunny a lot because he
allegedly threw one of his fans phones. Like, I mean, okay,
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so let me backtrack for a second. This is a
guy who went back home that because everybody was being
so supportive of him, he decided to jump on top
of a gas station and put on a show and
basically shut everything down. I mean, that is just insane. Like,
could you imagine if jay Z came to New York
(04:25):
and just decided to like pull up to the shell
and give everybody that's basically the equivalent of what he did.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, it's crazy. They recorded that and it's it's
an actual music video, and when you see the music video,
you just see the energy. La Haine just popped out.
It was just like pop up, Okay, I'm gonna jump
on top of a gas station and performed this song.
And it's just like you see the love that Puerto
Rico has for Bad Bunny, right.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But with that love, you know, I mean, there are
some really aggressive fans, and I think that he has
seen that now that he's reached this level of stardom.
You know, people are really not afraid to get in
his face. And so that's what I was, you know,
starting off with there was a video of a fan
that was like shoving her phone in his face, and
you know, people were coming down on him because he
grabbed her phone. He threw her phone, and he talked
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about how like people really need to recognize and acknowledge
that celebrities are people, you know, and that when he's
out on the streets, yes, you know, he does love
his fans and he appreciates it, but it's like be polite,
ask for a picture, you know. So that all happened
and I understood where he was coming from.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Carolina. I wasn't even mad at him. I understand. Yeah,
the fans, the fans, the fans made you who you are.
But you know what, you're invading my privacy, my personal space.
You have a phone in my face. You didn't ask
for permission. We don't know what he was going through
that day. We don't know. He could have lost somebody
dear to him, and you're just gonna start recording him.
Imagine somebody did that to you, Carolina right now, just
(05:50):
a random person. It wouldn't fly at all. He's a
human at the end of the day. Yeah, he loves
his fans.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That yeah, And that's exactly what he said. And so
you know, there was a lot of talk about him
and like has bad Bunny gotten too big of a
head and all of this stuff, And basically he just
came out and said exactly what you did, honey, I mean,
and that those were his sentiments. He was like, look,
I'm here for my people, I'm here for the fans.
I do this because of you, But you know, you
also have to remember that I'm a person too. Now.
(06:22):
I pulled a little piece of audio that I want
you to to play, just a little tiny clip where
he's in the club and he's like, okay, okay, I
know you guys all have your cell phones out. This
was like after the incident. He's like, now you can
have your phones out. He's like, but as long as
you're dancing and you keep moving, then it's okay. So
we're gonna pay a little bit. So you know that
(06:58):
he has a point. I think that people have become
so just infatuated with their favorite celebrities that they're missing
the moment, right, Like what he was saying is I
want everybody to just be in this moment, be here
with me, Like, appreciate the music, appreciate this performance.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Right, karlna I saw the clip. You're talking about the
amount of phones aimed at this man disgusting. Now one
person can actually be consuming the music. No one is
in the moment. They're just recording him. And as an artist,
you're there, You're giving yourself to your fans, and it's
just like nobody's watching. Everybody's making tiktoks, people are streaming
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on Facebook, people are streaming on Instagram live, Like, how
does this feel like a genuine connection with you fan?
If everyone's just in their phone. So I understand him.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, absolutely. And by the way I will say this,
it's not like we're giving him a pass or anything.
There are tons and tons of artists who have asked
people please, like put your phone down, like he enjoy this,
So it's not like he's the only one that's doing this, right,
you know. I mean, there are plenty of other artists
out there that have asked people to like, hey, when
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you come to my show, like look, there are even
comedians that have asked people to do this. When Mark
and I went to see Dave Chappelle, we had to
put our phones in a little pouch because.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I feel like I went there. I feel like I
went to that concert. I remember I was having such
withdrawals without my phone, right.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, no, And I was like, oh my gosh, well,
you know what if my sitter calls me? And I
had my Apple Watch, so I was cool, like it
was fine, but.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was like, girl, what if they don't know who
chose my phone?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I know, right, But Dave Chappelle did that, I think
because he was recording a special But also, like I
do have to say I was fully engrossed and engaged
in that show. So there is a point there to
be made. And I think that, you know, he's really trying,
but at the end of the day, you cannot break
people away from their phones and everything, and so you know,
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he's still trying to make moves. But speaking of which,
there's a Forbes article that talks about Hispanics, right and
they talk about how Latinos are the most prolific social
media technology users and that we're using our social media
platforms and a lot of people are actually equating some
of his success with TikTok with Instagram because his music
(09:17):
was being pushed out and that's really where the movement
came in. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
In your opinion, they gotta stop. When Juava came out,
Bad Bunny was already huge, maybe maybe mainstream America, maybe
non English speaking people. It catapulted him into that new
genre of people as I don't even know what's the
word I want to say right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now, but well, no, I know, I feel you, but
like yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can
definitely see that. But Bad Bunny's been huge before TikTok
was a craze. But yeah, his songs, that song went
everywhere on social media. You know, that song was huge
on social media. And maybe it did bring him, you know,
(10:05):
into the space of non English speaking Americans or people
from other countries, let's say Asia. Maybe it brought him
to the forefront to those people, but to us, he's
been a star.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, you know what, honey, We're going to talk about
my first listen, which I always think it's so interesting
when people listen to an album in its entirety, because
it just doesn't happen anymore. Everybody's only about those singles.
But I want to tell you all about that, and
we'll get into this right after we take a little break. Well, honey,
(10:36):
I want to paint this picture for you because we
are discussing all things bad Bunny. Today. And my husband
and I went to a conference in San Diego and
he had to go to like a meeting or something,
and so I said, you know what, I'm gonna hit
the pool. I don't have my kids. I'm gonna go
out there. I can't play any music for you guys
(10:59):
on this because we'll get fine, but I could sing
it for you. I'm no bad bunny. It's so embarrassing. No.
So Mark said to me, He's like, why don't you
go to the pool. And I said, you know what
I am. I'm gonna go to the pool and I'm
about to, like, I'm going to listen to this bad
Bunny album that everybody has been telling me to listen to.
So just picture it. I'm at the pool, the sun
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is shining exactly, and then I start playing it and
it begins with moscomnol. Oh my gosh, honey. When I
saw my husband that night, I said to him, I
don't know where I've been. That has to be one
(11:43):
of the best albums I've ever heard in my life.
And he's like, He's like, stop it, and I said, no,
I'm not even kidding you. Right now, I said, I'm
going to play you one song.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's why you know what the music is hitting when
you sit down your family members and you like hold on,
turn off the phone, turn every experience to.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Listen to this exactly exactly. So there was so much excitement.
I said, Oh my gosh, I said, the way he
just paints the picture, you know, with his words, this
is this is artistry, you know what I mean. And
so that's where I felt like, Holy, this is this
guy is huge. How did I not know about him?
And yes, I have heard about him, but I never
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really appreciated his music until then. So that's where I
really think, like when Umnanoscinci came out, I think that's
really when the blow up came right, Like, wouldn't you say, well,
it was he went mainstream, Yes, like in the United States,
I would say yes, yes, you're right. And then now
it's like, okay, So it went from Puerto Rico and
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then like the Latino population to the United States, and
now this dude is global. You cannot go anywhere without
hearing about Bad Bunny. I know we've mentioned it before,
the most streamed artist, uh, the first Latino artist to
headline Coachella. Now, a lot of people said, oh, J
Balvin was there. You know, other artists have been there.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But were they solo?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, But we are talking about a headliner here. So
that's where I think that we really need to like
focus on the developments and the things that he is
doing to help uplift the you know, Latino community and
the Latino artists that are out there.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And you know what's crazy is I think what he's
done is then what I guess catapulted us into feeling
like we have ownership over Bad Bunny. Which is a
very real thing in the Latin community.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Bunny, I know, but isn't that a part of success though?
Don't you want somebody see I feel the opposite way.
I love I love that people are appreciating it. Like
the Latin Grammys are incredibly special, and I know that
they're you know, obviously like a recognition in the industry.
But when you open the grand that is just and
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he didn't just open it, he blew it out of
the water man like those dancers. The only thing that
I will say, when you get Taylor Swift shaken in
her seat and dancing with the dancers, I mean, that
tells you right there how infectious his music is.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
JO That's what Bad Bunny said when he opened the
Grammys quota with all the dancers. That felt good to me.
I was like, Wow, he did what he was supposed
to do. Bad Bunny understood the damn assignment and he said,
latinos are here, we are huge. I just saw an article.
It was like, you know, one billion dollars worth of
(14:37):
like you know, Latin music sales happened in twenty twenty two,
and I feel like that's something that was ignored, pushed
to the side we were not getting the recognition we
deserved and Bad Bunny forced it, shoved it, and just
you know, just pushed it down people's throats. And I
love him for it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well you can't deny it now, right, And I also
especially I love that he just showed up the clean
white tea and the jeans and he was just like, yo,
I am here and I don't need to do anything extra,
like this is what it is. And I appreciated it
so much, you know, And I think that that was
really kind of surprisingly. I had friends who said, oh
my gosh, I saw that guy that you've been talking
(15:16):
about at the Grammys. That was their first introduction to him,
which is wild to me.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It made an impact. They were like, oh, this is
who Carolina has been talking about this whole entire time.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Absolutely, and now I know Nala, one of our producers.
She is a huge Bad Bunny fan, and I wanted
to get her on too, because honey, you said, she
has some thoughts about him and how everybody's receiving him
and what everybody's been talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Let's get a Nala.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I feel like when we start to talk about the
Grammies especially, that was a lot of people, not a
lot of people's.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It was an introduction for people for sure. But prior
to that, we knew he was playing on the radio
so much, and he was on so many different stations.
He bled into so many different genres because of the
collaborations that he's done. I just think his talent is
so special and it's different than a lot of the
other light artists that we've seen. He's helped a lot
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of people patiful too, into their careers. So I just
love seeing the work that he's done for the community.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, definitely, And I think that it's also just like
he's I love the ownership of who he is. Like
the funniest thing that I and I know that everybody
who is a fan of him knows this, that he
is just such a crazy WWE fan and that he
like makes time for it that he actually shows up
and does things like I heard that he's doing Coachella,
(16:34):
or I know that he did Coachella last weekend, but
he's gonna do Coachella and then he's going to go
to Chicago after to go and do w Like it's
just like this guy is everywhere. You can't deny it.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
To train to be a wrestler, like he lived in
Orlando for months, Carolina just to do it right.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That is crazy. There's so much to unwrap here with him,
and it's just like my mind is blown because I
thought that I knew a little bit about him, right,
I thought I knew Okay, all right, he's a great
artist and you know, but this is just he is
probably going to be one of the people that you
will not be able to ignore in twenty twenty four.
You know, we should make that into a bumper sticker.
(17:12):
You won't be able to admit it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So bad Bunny twenty twenty four, twenty four, Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, absolutely, because look, he even started a movie this
past year.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I saw that boy opposite Brad Pitt. Right now, this
man is out of here.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's crazy. And so now the thing that everybody is
talking about, we have to get into it because I
think that this is the thing that's really upsetting honey,
which I want to do more. I want to like
get deeper into this. So bad Bunny had a girlfriend
and I believe he was with her for a couple
of years. Am I right? Or am I wrong? This
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is like the girl that he was with when he
was coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, he was with Gawriela from twenty seventeen to twenty
twenty two. Okay, we loved her. She was a Puerto
Rican girl. He met her in the island, you know,
he just went out to dinner I think, with like
his parents. He had done a performance, so he was
already an artist and he met Gabriela. You know, they
were private about their relationship. It actually was three full
years before they went public. But we loved them. You know,
(18:10):
they were chill, It wasn't obnoxious. They even adopted a
puppy together. So we were vested in the relationship and
we liked her.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
For him, I think I saw her in one of
his shoots and like, you didn't see her entire face,
but I thought, oh wow, you know, so he's like
really committed to this girl. But then they ended up
breaking up.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, Like he put her in a video when everybody
was like, oh, he married Gabriela because she was like
a bride.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
In the video.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Like we were like, oh my god, bad bunny got married.
Like we thought. He was like subliminally telling us that
him and Gaudiella took the next step. But wamh wamh.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Wamh they broke it up, and then that's when it
started happening. Everybody started cheap, cheap, chep chep cheap and
best blah blah. You know, this is where people began
to hear whispers that Bad Bunny and Kendall Jenner had
started dating.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't know why, Caroly, and you've seen that. Even
takes time for me to like process the thought, like
you just said that right now, and it still just
didn't feel real to me.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, wait, am I glossing over somebody? Was there a
Claudius who? So am I missing in the timeline? Did
he date somebody else before Kendall Jenner? That's why I
need you for this, honey. I need you to walk
me through the bad Bunny dating timeline.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Oh now this he said, the bad Bunny dating timeline.
I don't know, because then it was like, oh, he's
having an open relationship and he went to like I
think he went to like a basketball game with someone.
But it was it was like very like quick. It
wasn't like something like, oh, he has a new girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Can we refer to our producer Nala on this one? Nala,
do you have any information on this person who he
dated after Gabriela.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
No, she technically came before Gabriela, but she's important to
bring up because her drama or oh break before the
Kendle Ruber came up.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh wait wait wait, is this the one that is
suing him for using her voice?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh go okay, okay, wait, So we're gonna pause right here.
We're gonna take a break and then we're gonna come
back and we are going to clarify the bad Bunny
dating timeline so that Honey can pop off about Kendall Jenner.
But we're gonna make you wait for it all right now.
So as you can see, I was confused, right, Honeyeah,
I mean I can't follow this.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So you.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, the girl that's suing him is before before Gabriela.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Okay, so break this down. He was with this girlfriend
when he was first coming up.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Right, super young. This is like early in his career.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, And she recorded something that he put on an album, right.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, so bad Buddy David was said in a voicemail,
and he used it, and so it was it was
whatever for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They broke up.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
He's going about his career. He pops off, she gets
her law degree. She pursues shoeing him because of that audio.
But what became interesting about it in hindsight was that
all of that news arised and then we we don't
hear about it. Now Kendo is the big deal.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
First of all, we can't let the ex girlfriend off
the hook. This girl wants forty million dollars Carolina for
that voice. Mil forty million dollars carlist de la Cruce Ernandez.
She said, Rummy, my coins, bad bunny. You're the biggest
artist in the world.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'm on her side.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You want her side? No wait, why for one line?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Please start?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You think she deserves This line is like a part
of his brand.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, his brand is so much bigger than a
voicemail drop stop it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
How are you gonna equate this, this man and his
trajectory and his and by the way, I'm not challenging you.
I want it. I want you to challenging her. He's
always ready to fight. I want to understand. So she's
she sent this voice note to him, and it was
and say it again for me, Nola, which one? What
does she say?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
She says, bad bunny baby?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh yeah, oh that bad bunny baby.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Like that whole bad bunny baby.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean yes.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So it's kind of like if Ronald McDonald called me,
he's like, I'm loving it, or I say to him
I'm loving it, and he uses this logan it's just
this big.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Deal now I want my money.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, it was used like a couple of times in
twenty seventeen and then in twenty twenty two. It's not
like it's been part of every single song.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
But she has a point, but these are the biggest songs.
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
There's a point though, when you bring Ronald McDonald into
the argument. This is where we are all. It all
ends here, Nala. So wait a minute. So what you're
saying is because he has used this in his music,
because he is basically I guess he's I don't know,
he's tied himself to this statement with her. And now
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you're saying that she deserves the forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Okay, well, now that you reiterate it, maybe forty million
is a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think it's I know, I know, but Yang, I mean,
she needs to like chill out.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I mean maybe four mil. It was a voice, It
was a memory, you.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Know what the hustle of going to school. No, I
won't even see that, so right, right, I commend her
for having that hustle. I want her to get at
least a penny out of it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, no, I don't think I think that she is
definitely rightfully owed some money for it. I think forty
million dollars is excessive. But I think that she's bitter. Perhaps, Well,
his thing, his thing.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It's a voice memo, right, and she recorded it for him,
like while they were at a party or whatever, and
she records several different versions and sent it to him
like here you are. It's not like he stole it.
I'm sorry, Like I got to give you clarity here.
She didn't leave him a voicemail being sweet and then
he stole it. He requested it, she recorded it, she
sent it, she recorded it again, she sent it again.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Okay, Fett, honey, you're working, you're working, we work exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay, So now you want forty million, I would have
paid you four hundred fifteen.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I know what this is. This is really like, this
is getting nasty because both but both of you have
a great point, like what is the actual like fair
compensation for something like this? You know what I mean?
And I think that for her, it doesn't take anything
away from you, right, Like, it's not like you can't
go anywhere and not work again because he's using that
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portion of your voicemail. You know what I'm saying, Like,
this isn't something that is.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's not hindering her, it's not damaging her. She's being greeted.
Oh twenty fifteen, she didn't want anything now that I'm
a meat that star you won forty million dollars, got it?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, he offered her two thousand dollars and she declined it.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Oh, it was a conversation, Mama Sita.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Wow. Okay, so then we're gonna have to keep an
eye on that. But now we are keeping an eye
on Kendall Jenner and Bad Bunny. So here we go. Now,
a lot of people thought that this was an orchestrated
thing by Chris Jenner. What do you guys have to
say about that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I still think that Chris targeted Benito. She said, Okay,
he's the biggest superstar in the world right now, I
need him for one of my daughters, which one of
my daughters is not.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, wait, what's the story. What's the story on how
they met? I don't even know how they met.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Well, Benito moved to La mistake number one. We need
you to stay gon Lahinte. He moved to LA and
he bought a house and they were introduced as friends
in La. You know, everybody in La knows everybody, and
they would be like, oh my god, I want to
introduce you to Kendall. And that's how the two met.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, this happened in twenty twenty three. And then there
were rumors that they were spotted out in certain like
La restaurants, that they were seeing having dinner, you know,
at one spot. Then they were spotted in another place.
And I believe, and you guys can correct me if
I'm wrong. There were only a couple of instances where
people saw them out and about together.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
From what I know, Carolina, all we needed to see
was that picture of them riding a horse together. Okay,
I was gonna bring that up. All that manhood squished
into Kendall's ass, that is all I needed to see.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That looked like a scene out of Anela man. I
was dying. Well, you know that Kendall Jenner is a
very experienced horseback rider. Did you guys know that I
did not know that. No, no, no, for real, she
grew up riding horses. Actually, and before she began modeling,
she was training on horses.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, I'm sorry. I was like, yeah, she was trained
on riding horses. Now she moved on to riding.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
No. I saw that picture of them together and I
was like, oh my gosh, wait a minute, wait a minute,
this might actually be real, Like this could be real.
They she's taking him to do something that she knows
that she loves. Like this could actually be a real thing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Puerto Rico. He didn't need to go catabasis. I'd yours
is so terrible.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I love it. Oh so No, so it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Feels very real, Carolina, And I'm very triggered.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It does feel very real. But why Okay, So, if
you're a fan of somebody and you don't want to
see them happy and you know, living their best life,
I mean, I guess what I'm thinking is the bad
Bunny of ten years ago would have never imagined that
he would be hanging out with Kendall. And I think
she's absolutely gorgeous. Can we all agree? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Well she is.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't listen. I don't have a problem with Kendall.
I feel like she's the least problematic of the whole bunch,
and she is gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
She's absolutely stunning, and I can see where she's a
little bit more down to earth when it comes to
the celebrity status. You know, based on her family, she's
the one that's a little bit more low key. She's
not trying to do the most all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
She's not forcing it. You know, she's doing what she
She's a model and she's working as a model. She know,
she's not trying to sell us any thing. She's chittle.
Like I said, out of the whole entire family, she's
the most likable one. So I guess if it had
to happen, I'm glad it was her.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay, soe bad Bunny, you would be happier than than
him being with Kendall Jenner.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Here's the issue, Krolina Kardashian Jenner's. They're not as like
as maybe some people want to think. They're just a
toxic family. They have a lot of drama. The men
that enter that family.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You're talking about the curse.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Okay, all right, there you go, there you go. I
don't want that for Bad Bunny and I know it's
the Kardashian curse, but you know what, she is very
closely affiliated and she was trained by these women that
live under that Kardashian curse umbrella. I guess it's you're
(28:56):
gonna see bad bunny abo.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Wait a minute, now, there are you guys. I went
on a Reddit thread last night. I went into a
deep dive on the Reddit thread about how people were
worried that this is going to that that she is
going to affect him as an artist, that he will
not be able to make music, that people won't take
him seriously in the industry. But I also think that
(29:24):
this could actually help him in some way because the
people that they dated, let's say, have benefited from dating
them until a certain point, Like who.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Look at what Kanye is that man living in a
hole right now? Give me somebody, Oh my god, who okay,
do you mean to tell me Harry Styles benefited from
dating Kendle, this man's megastar. I don't think he needed her.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
No, no, no, I'm not saying that he needs her
in any way, shape or form. What I'm saying is,
I don't think that by him dating her could be
like maybe he could I don't know. Maybe it could
spawn into something else for him because of their connections
or because of the people that you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Like this man is a superstar. This man is a
mega star. He don't need no connections. He don't need
even with the white folks. He was already there, Carolyna.
He don't need this family, and so this family if
he go back, Nah, I love Tiger, got.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hits Tiger Tiger hang.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Everybody left? Everybody left?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Well, so then what is the issue? Can you guys
break down the Kendall Jenner like bad Bunny? Why is
everybody so up in arms about this? Like I'm not
even kidding you. There are pages and pages of people
arguing about how they cannot understand how they're gonna A
lot of people have said that they can't even look
at him anymore. They're very disgusted with him. They're really
disappointed in this, Like why can't he be like dating somebody?
(30:53):
Why can't he be in love? We don't know if
he's in love either, so don't attack me.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I think you know, bat Bunny was like a the
epitome of Latini, dad, of our culture, of our people.
He was dating a Latina. He represented for us like
he was like a trophy to us. So it's not
about him dating. It's about who he's dating. And I
don't even think it's about dating outside his race. I
(31:16):
think it's just picking a Kardashian Jenner person. I think
that is what is the problem here. I don't think
I've seen people on TikTok burning like their bad bunny snuff,
some sneaks or some crocs a CD. I think it's
the choice of person. I don't think it's that he
left Gabriela. I don't think it's that he's not dating
a Latina. I think it's like, really, not only are
(31:38):
you gonna like move on to La, but you're gonna
pick Kendall Jenner.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Why no, this reddit got violent. I'm telling you no, no,
really they were fighting and I'm not kidding you. What
you said is true. They were burning like their t
their concert t shirts. They are like, oh, I went
to one of his first concerts and this this is
gonna be a what's it called? They were like, oh,
this is gonna I'm memento. I don't care because he's
dating Kendall Jenner. People are talking about this in a
(32:06):
way wherein.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Like I saw her in Coachella, Bilando Merenge, and I'm like,
I don't know, I don't know how to feel about this.
It's our culture, and I understand, like Latine culture, mereng
it's a happy culture. We want to share it with
the world. But I think we just had Bad Bunny
under lock and key. It was something so precious to us.
(32:30):
It was Wow, look at the way he's representing us globally.
It just felt like it was ours and it just
like somebody, somebody said, it feels like staying a Bad
Bunny fan. It is like getting cheated on and still
staying in the relationship. I read an article and there
were a lot of different Bad Bunny fans that were
venting about their grievances, and that one really really felt
(32:52):
like it hit him. She said, you know, I'm gonna
read it to you. She said, there's no denying that
Latina fans have branded Benito as a temporary symbol of
Latina feminisms, and now there seems to be a cultural
expectation from fans that want Benito to remain committed to
social justice stardom. That's a whole nother realm Carolina.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You don't right, No, definitely, and listen. I remember I
was devastated when I was eleven years old and my
favorite nie kid on the block had a girlfriend. I
remember that moment. I was upset. But these people, you
have grown ass women like they're unstanding Bad Bunny because
(33:34):
of this relationship. Now you also have people questioning. You know, Andrew,
we were talking to him before we did the episode,
and he said, how can Kendall Jenner go from Harry
Styles to Devin Booker to bad Bunny? And it's like,
is there any rhyme or reason when it comes to love?
They can't just vibe off of each other, like they
couldn't have just met one another and been like wow,
like this is my person. That's my question. I don't know,
(34:00):
Honey is salty?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I know, you know it's you know, it's crazy. You
mentioned you mentioned Booker and he dropped the track and
they're saying bad Bunny Booker on that song.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh really, see, this is where it's going to start
to get ugly. And now, yes, I do understand. And
by the way, please don't at me, Please don't come
for me, because I'm just trying to I'm trying to
stay I'm Switzerland here, okay, because I'm trying to be neutral.
I'm trying to be neutral because I want to get
to the bottom of this whole situation. But I do
understand that people are very upset that Kendall Jenner has
(34:34):
been accused of cultural appropriation, that she has her to
kil a brand. You know, we're going to get into
even more of this after this break.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, b I don't have Bad Bunny.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right, So now we cannot listen. Honey, I don't
want you leaving here in a bad way. Okay, we've
got you. Don't want me to leave, Salty I do
not want to believe Salty Baby, because we are going
to get to the bottom of this now. We were
discussing early enough.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't know, I don't know. It just felt like
Bad Bunny was ours, and I guess I guess I
speak for millions of fans. He was just ours. It
just felt so special. It was like a shiny diamond
that we had in a little box, and we polished
it every day, we played his songs, we followed his career,
and now it just feels like a violation, like, oh,
(35:27):
you're in La with Kendle writings, no bad bunny. No,
I don't know all people, man, Bete come Becky g
is locked up. She needs some company right now. Anybody
but Kendell come on.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, you know what I will say this he was
basically I will say and there are a lot of
people who have questioned his choice right now. Okay, So
here's what I want to say this.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You're gonna tie it up nice?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
No, no, no, no, I you know what this is
the this is the problem that I have. So he
was just on the cover of Time magazine a couple
of weeks ago, which I thought was so incredibly special, huge,
so so so huge. He just headlined Coachella, which we
have a little clip, a little clip here of what
he said, which I think it gave me goose bumps.
(36:24):
It is so profound, It is so incredibly just. I
love human.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It just it was just so human.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It was so human what he said. And it also
just tells you more. It gives you a better insight
into what type of a person that he is. That
he's not just going up there on stage. This means
something is a Bianza and.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Franciska.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
When I tell you that crowd so I have a
girlfriend who actually works for Live Nation and she went
to Coachella. I don't know if it's a Live Nation show,
but I know that she was there. She told me
she's like girl, I have been to many Coachella's. She
said the energy was insanity there. He's insanity in a
(37:43):
good way, right, and so you know, he's coming off
of all of these wonderful things, you know, all of
these accolades and all of these things that are happening
to him, and then people are losing their minds because
they hear Kendall Jenner in a golf cart with him
in an Instagram clip.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You know, in Kochila, I felt like he opened up
and he kind of like touched on what's going on
right now? And you know, you know, he said, you know,
humbly speaking. You know, people people think, I guess that
we know the lives of famous people, but we don't.
You know, he wanted to put it out there. He says,
we don't know what he feels, We don't know what
he lives through. And the most importantly, he said, we
(38:22):
will never know what a heart can feel. Is he
in love with Kendall? Is he going through it?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Now we don't know. But he definitely says we don't
know what he's going through, and I guess, well respect that.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, but also to your point, honey, he also did
go on to say, don't believe everything you see in
the media. Oh yeah, social media. He said, if it
doesn't come from my own mouth, then don't believe it.
But that's I feel like that was an interesting play
because he's in a full blown PR relationship, right. I mean,
let's be honest, this.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Is you think it's a PR move. That's a I
like you.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think it's like a media there their relationship quotes.
What is happening right now? There's nothing that you can
do to get away from it? Okay, So that I
meant more like of a.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Media relations Oh no, he can't get away from it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, So for him to make that statement tells me
everybody calmed down, everybody relax. I feel like he's just
finding his way right now. He's just chilling with this
girl horses in the sunset.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh my gosh, no, honey, oh my goodness, that's it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah. I mean listen, maybe you never know, but I
just think that everybody has just gone off the rails
with everything that he's doing. And then look, he just
collaborated with group of Frontera. This song debuted at number
four on Spotify Global. So if that doesn't tell you
something like he says, and he's like, listen, I've always
appreciated Mexican music. He's like, I've I've wanted to collaborate
(39:53):
with different artists. So exactly what you were saying, honey.
It's like, he continues to make moves and to do
some really great things in the industry. But I just
think we need to give him a break. Let him
sow his wild oats. He's a single man. He's gonna
choose who he chooses. We can't get all crazy about
this whole Kendle thing because I guarantee you, actually, these
(40:15):
words may come back to bite me in the ass.
I don't even know we six months from now, are
we still going to be talking about Kendall and bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But the way these women work in that household, probably not.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, So That's why I'm saying. It's like, I think
everybody needs to chill. But I'm so proud of him.
I think that it is such an incredible look for
him to be at Coachella for the people that are
there and that are watching and that are actually getting
to appreciate it. You know, don't be triggered when you
see Kendall Jenner and him hugging up on each other,
because that's what's going to be all over the place,
(40:50):
you know. Just I guess let's take our personal ideas
out of it and let the guy be.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Put that in a little compartment and continue. I guess
to embrace Bad Bunny. As you know LGBTQ advocate. He's
huge in that aspect, you know, women's rights. He is
all for the island, He's for Latinos. The music is incredible.
It's kind of hard, but I guess we're gonna have
to just embrace and love Bad Bunny outside of his relationships.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It's like when we have that cousin or that sister
that has a toxic relationship, but we still gotta love her. Yeah,
I guess, yes, Ma Orvid and we still love her.
I guess that's gonna have.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
To be it. I think that's what we're gonna have
to do. And Nala, can I get you on board
to honey, because I feel like you are You're feeling
a type of way about this. Oh no, one hundred percent. Okay,
So can we all agree? Can we all just make up?
Come on, let's all let's hug it out. I know
I love it, and I love that you love him
(41:50):
so much, but I just cannot wait to see the
rest of his career. I feel like this is just
the beginning for us. Like I think, there are so
many things that we're going to be seeing from him
coming up. And listen, you have a right to voice
your opinion. You let us know. Hit us up at
l I spanglish, and you let us know if we
are out of pocket, or if you know what you're
here for it or if you're not here for it.
Did you cancel Bad Bunny because he was dating Kendall Jenner?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Nah, we got cancel Chris Jenner.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's it. Now you're going for the mom, You're going
for the head man. Seriously, Well, you guys, this is amazing.
Thank you for joining us, and I love, love, love
that we can have these fun discussions and you never
know what we're going to talk about next.
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