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November 3, 2023 • 44 mins
Next week marks the start of the Texas basketball season. Get ready for it with Coach Rodney Terry as he breaks down the season ahead with Craig Way.
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Hello again everybody, and will goto another edition of Longboarding Weekly with Rodney
Terry, a special basketball edition ofthe program coming away from Pluckers the West
Campus location here in Austin. So, now you've had an exhibition game under
your belt with the team and gettinga little closer to this regular season opener
on Monday night, And how areyou feeling about your group? You know

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what, I think we learn alot about our group. I think you
know, we've had a chance obviouslyto play cut or out or a team
that was an offensive team, atransition team. We get a chance to
come back and play saying that Ward'san older team that was going to really
execute and run their offense and reallychallenge us to sit down defensively and have
some discipline. So, you know, we learned a lot about ourselves in

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terms of we're still early in theseason. You're you're developing some grit and
guys just to learn about old tohave to compete every night on One of
the things that we've talked about,certainly is the development of some of the
younger guys and how that's made adifference. And uh, what you're what
you're looking to see now the mixtureand the chemistry and all of that sort
of thing is is obviously going tobe a work in progress. But in

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the exhibition game, did you startto see a little bit of some of
that, especially in the second half, as folks, So that about what
you want to see out of thisgroup. Well, again, that's why
when you know, you play thoseexhibition games, you play those scrimmages to
to work through substitutions, work throughthe lineups. You get a chance to
also kind of workout came to workout again, we're again guys get a

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chance to the kind of play throughthe nerves, you chance to play your
first home game in front of yourhome crowd, and uh, all that's
a great, a great test forus early in the season when when your
guys came off of the closed scrimmageat Colorado, what were the things you
wanted to see you talked about whenin time in the final eight minutes of

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a ball game. Obviously your teamreally turned it on in the second half
of the exhibition against Saint Ed's.Uh what else were you're looking to see
that you were building on coming outof the closed scrimmage that you then did
see in the exhibition against Saint Ads. Well, I thought in the closed
strimmage we really had to come backand work on our transition defense. We

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spent a lot of time working onour transition defense and trying to get back
and get set and load our defenseplace stay networks. They really didn't push
the ball on in transition. Theywere more of a team that came down
and really wanted to run their offense. So again it challenged us UH to
really sit down and finish possessions.We called it the white line where we

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have health defense. Did a reallygood job with our helpline defense against saying
that those guys when you going inand they were gonna be the shooting team,
shooting defense was gonna be really bigfor us. But did a really
good job from one strimmage to thenext taking away back cuts and guys cutting
and things of that nature that Ithink we only gave up one back cut
the entire game, which was wasreally good carry on from the last strimmage.

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How challenging is it for you andfor the staff to with the guys
who have on the floor, lookat your combinations, look at what you
want to see in terms of guysgetting together with the understanding you're still down
two big guys. You're you know, Kayden Shedrick will be along in the
not too distant future, and youhope to have Dylan to sue back sometime

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perhaps in the month of December aswell. But how challenging does it make
it for you and the staff incrafting what you want to do offensively and
defensively, given that you're two bigguys that are down right now. I
think you still try to play throughit. I think again, early this
season we're getting a chance to playa little small ball, but as we
get our big guys back, we'reable to play a little bit bigger and

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do some things differently. We're stilldo some of the same things, especially
if from a defense standpoint and offensivestandpoint. For one thing, it really
helps you on the glass, youknow, we can rebound the ball.
We you know, we can havea little bit better physical presence in the
pain, you know, scoring theball and rebound it. You know,
we saw some things that we gotaccustomed to seeing last year. We saw,

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uh, you know, Tyree's hunterhit, make some big shots from
outside. But the three right beforethe half I thought was a big momentum
bucket there because your down hand andcut it to seven there by the half,
and then the second half things reallygot going. That was one of
the things seeing Brock cunning Am reallyget physical and redown for you and get
the ball out and transition that wasthat was something I think we saw a

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lot of things that we saw theteam really do well down the stretch of
the season last year. There wasa continuation at the start of this year.
Well again, you want to tryto you want to try to see
if you could be a team thatcould come to a great start, you
know, but whether you come toa great start or a bass start,
you still got to work the game. You know, you want to be
the close halves out. We dida pretty good job with that. We

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executed a play down the stretch,and we had one more and we made
made the right play, the simplepass, you know, right to to
Todd Reese and he made the basket. But closing a half, starting halves,
we came out and we started tohave the right way. We said
the tone defensively and you go rightback where we need to be in terms
of you know, really taking controlof the game. You know, on
the broadcast Monday night broadcast partner EddieOrton was pointing out that, and you

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and I talked about it on thepost game that it was good to get
a push like that, even somewould say really from a Division two brogra
that's a renowned Division two program.But also on things like an Eddie as
a coach would do, would pointthese things out. Andrey Cook ran some
good out of bounds place and hetalked about that, and those are things
I know that you want your guysto be ready for coming out of a

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timeout, coming out of a comingout of a half, coming out of
an official timeout, or a thirtysecond timeout, to be ready for an
out of bounds play that an opponentwould run at you. Well, you
want to see how you guys canrespond. You can work on a lot
of different things in practice, butto have it in game action to where
you get a chance to work onit, like they pressed us up the
floor, which was really good forus. We work against press and practice

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all the time, and you knowit's just one thing to get behind the
press and score. If you don't, now you've got to be to flow.
So we worked a lot this weekon hey, if we don't score.
We've got to be to flow quickly, and we have to understand time
and situation as well. In termsof the shot club, you know,
you alluded to the fact that you'vegot to be able to have baseline out
of bounds defense. We work onthat. Let's be like special teams in

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football. You've got to do agreat job of taking away teams that want
to score from the baseline. You'vegot to take those points away. And
thought we did a pretty good jobof executing our defense from the baseline out
of bounce. You know, I'veheard you say this many many times in
the past, and it looked likeit. It came into fruition again.
Is if shots aren't falling and earlyon neither side really had them falling early.

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But if shots aren't falling, thenumber one thing you can't let it
do is carry over to your defense. And you wanted to make sure your
guys did not have it carry overto defense, and I don't think it
did. Credit Sat it's also beenmaking some shots. They get five of
eleven threes in the first half andonly two in the second half, And
I thought that was a big,big point in terms of guarding the perimeter
or what what your guys did afterSaint that's had made some threes in the

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first we'll be able to sit downand get some stops. I think again,
it plays for our strength. Well, we're able to get stops,
we can get out and we canrun. We have a fast team,
we have an athletic team. Wewant to be to get out and get
some baskets in transition, and wewere able to do that the second half.
We were able to get some stopsand get out and get um down
the floor a little bit. Inthe first half, they slowed us down

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a little bit. And when thathappens, you've got to be to execute
your office. You've got to beto float and you've got to be able
to take those shots on your terms. Yeah and uh. And then,
like you say, you want tosee things within the team concept, but
I know that you and the staffare watching how guys do individually and how
they and and and how they respondto some adversity. And I thought some

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of your younger guys really stepped upwhen they had to. No, they
did again, and to be inthat type of situation and planning that type
of game, I thought it wasreally good for us. It was totally
different than the Colorado game. Colorado'sgot a really good team. They are
transition team. They pushed them allreally hard, high possession game. Uh.
This was a more low possession game. We had to speed them up

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a little bit and kind of overwhelmedthem a little bit with the athleticism in
the second half, which we wereable to do. Uh. But but
again, a tail of two halvesin this last particular game for us,
And ultimately, I guess coaches arewanting to see that. You want to
see two consistent, well played halfsof basketball. But if if one is

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going to struggle, you wanted tobe the first half and then see how
your guys respond. And then that'skind of what an exhibition game is all
about. It absolutely, And wego into games and we have goals that
we set, you know, andI think in the first half, I
mean we knew going into this gamethat these guys were a really good shooting
team. I think they had fivethrees, and our goal for the game
was, you know, six orless. Well, like guys, six

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or less was our goal for thegame. They've got five and a half,
you know, And I think theyfinished with seven. I think they
threw one in at the at theend of the ball game. And uh,
but we did a much better jobwithout shooting defense. We didn't.
We didn't give them much separation toguys getting open looks. All right,
We've got a lot to get toon the program. We got a special
guest will be joining us as well. Uh want to remind you obviously the

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season openers Monday night at Moody Centeragainst in Carnabord. We'll talk more about
that coming up. So stay withus long Oron Weekly with Rodney Terry.
From here Pluckers the West Campus locationwill continue on the Long Were ready and
network from Lairfield. We welcome youback to Longorton Weekly with Rodney Terry.
From here Pluckers the West Campus locationhere in Austin. We've got some questions

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here. We're gonna get to it. I'm gonna guess this question from Katie
is from that Katie right there,you know, from the corral. He's
wanting to know which of your assistantcoaches cracks the most jokes. Which we're
gonna have him here, Shorty Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
General Managermple, manager of the programis father of the guy that cracks

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the most jokes, probably all ofour assistants probably, but they all have
good senses of humor. I've discovered, No, we do. You know
what you know. Coach McLay,you know, in his own way,
has a great has a great littlewitty uh personality, you know, Frank
does. Likewise, we all justreally get a little really well well together,
and you know, we get weget quite a few chuckles throughout the
course of the day. All Right, a number one fan, Jean with

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the eternal question. I think Iknow the answer to this. She wants
to know. Will we be joinedduring the course of the season by players
on this show? Yeah, answers, Yes, Yes, absolutely, Mischane.
I love having our guys here andthey get a chance to have a
voice. You guys get a chanceto interact with them and engage with them.
We we got great guys on ina program, and I love to

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love to showcase those guys on.All Right, last week on the show,
I asked you for your favorite Halloweencandy and you actually surprised me.
You said candy corn. Yeah,all right, now, Allison, where's
Allison? Alison is wanting to know, did you in fact dress up for

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Halloween? You know what, Ididn't get a chance to dress up.
I know then it was Halloween,point booper. No, I didn't get
a chance to do that. ButI was prepared for my Halloween trick or
treaters to come around in the neighborhood. That's all. I was ready.
I was in the spirit. Okay, all right, there you go.
All right, Uh, let's seewhat I'm gonna make sure. Oh bevo

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hat guy. Okay, all right, all right, I says, who
owns the Lamborghini everyone is posting picturedin front of? And he's asking how
you can get a ride in it? But anyway, who owns that Lambert?
You know what? That's uh,that's purnship of Bruce Knox. You
know, he is the Lamborghini dealershipdealership here in town. And uh was

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was was so kind to uh tobring that over and work with us a
little bit on on the photo shoot, and uh we'd out pretty good.
Not a bad ride, right yeah, yeah, that would be the same
dealership or a certain running back hadit had there, right yeah, Okay.
He also wanted to know, didyou get a chance to see any

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of the Halloween costumes that people inthe corral or other students were wearing during
the Saint Edge game. I knowyou were dialed in to the game.
Did you see any of the costumes? Yeah, just briefly. I didn't
get a chance to see a wholelot, but I did see that there
was a very festive time, andI saw a lot of people involved and
engaged. And again, what agreat time and great experience for you guys
to be to come to a gameand have you costumes on and just have

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a good part in a good time. Emiliano, one of our favorites,
just had him on a week ago, wants to know what do you tell
the team during a timeout and orand have time when you were facing adversity
and you were down ten points withunder a minute doing a half before Tyrese

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hit the three there and you weredown seven at the half. But even
during the regular season or in thepostseason last year, what are the things
that are discussed during a timeout typesof things that are discussed then or even
at halftime when you're facing adversity.Yeah, no, you know, when
you go on the time out one, we really encourage our guys to get
there quickly because it's like a pitstop, you know, and and then

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you've got to be able to getthe intel to the guys the right way,
and they've got to be gathered andthey've got to take it back to
the court. So we try todo it in a very organized manner to
where we start with the defense andCoach mcleany goes in first, and he
talks about defense, what we're doing, what we're not doing, what we
need to do better, you know, maybe the adjustment here or there,
maybe a punch we're about to throw. We we call punches when we change

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our defenses and want to do somethingdifferent. He goes in first. We
talk about how many kills that we'vewe've had we haven't had in that in
that four minutes, you know,and kills our consecutive stops, defensive stopped
and uh. We we also talkabout offense. How many turnovers do we
have right now there's four minutes,you know, how many paint touches that

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we've gotten, you know, youknow, are we moving the basketball and
sharing the basketball? How many assistswe have, so you know a number
of different things. You're trying toget to your guys alone, which trying
to come out of an ato andhave execution. Okay, where's even?
Where's even? Evan had a question, Evan, I love you, brother,
but this is not one he cananswer if it has to do anything

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with individual recruiting. So I'll setthat aside and thank you for submitting that.
And then finally, where is ratDog? We have someone here that's
going by rat Dog anyway. RatDog wants to know how confident are you
about the expectations you had before youhad an exhibition game and when you were

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just going to the practice. Doyou still have all of those expectations?
And I feel really good about thisteam. This group works ready hard,
you know they they have all theingredients and all the pieces to be a
really good team. Just like anybodyand everybody this time of year, you're
really trying to again really mold youridentity to who you're going to be every

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day. And we got again newguys and a mission with older guys and
getting familiar with one another both anddefensively. But again, I think we'll
be a team that grows all seedsalong and we've got a chance to be
as good as we want to be. All right, we need a break.
When we come back, We've gotmore to come here on Longhorn Weekly
with Rodney Terry from Pluckers. TheWest Campus location will continue in a moment.

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We welcome you back here to LonghornWeekly with Rodney Terry from Pluckers to
West Campus location here in Austin,Okay. During each program, we give
you a chance to meet one ofthe Corral Ambassadors, one of the students
who does crazy and ridiculous and sometimesquestionable things there in the student section.
But that's okay. So we're pleasedto be joined by Corral Ambassador Quincy Smith,

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a senior from Los Angeles. You'vealready impressed me because you're majoring in
math. But welcome Aboory. Gladto have you here. Thank you for
having me all right. So,in addition to the fact, first of
all, what attracted you to comeinto the University of Jackas So I during
COVID, there was my family nowlives in San Antonio, and I really

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wanted to pick a school that wasclose, a big school, and Texas
just kind of felt like home.I love the city of Austin. I
really wasn't a burnt Orange fan untilI got here, but ever since I've
ket here, I've just never lookedback. You are also, and this
is a well, first of all, did you come to school definitely deciding
you were going to major in math? I wanted to originally a major in

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statistics. Okay, when I startedhere, ut didn't have a stat's option
and math was the next best thing, and they had a stats pathway.
And now I'm on track to graduatemath and start my master's in data science.
So I'm very excited for that.Ronnie, how good are you at
math? Not one of your betterones? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

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all right, yeah, all right. So here's the other thing. Here's
the fun fact about Quincy. He'salso a resident assistant, as we know,
an R. And you camped outsideMoody Center for as long as twelve
plus hours for several of last year'shome games. So give us an example

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of a game that you camped outfor for a long long time and how
you dealt with it. I definitelyNicknzaga game last year showed up right and
early around seven point thirty. Webeat Coach, We beat Aggie. There,
we beat CDC. There, youbeat Aggy. Here tonight, here's
night too. I'm here tonight webeat the Moody Center staff there. We
were pressed up against the doors andcame out and told us to move that.

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Aggie came by. I brought ussome coffee. And so what you
do is just, you know,bring your laptop, bring your whatever homework
you have. Just sit down thereand line the Wi Fi works out there.
Just start doing homework, take alittle bit of shifts. I think
at like three or four o'clock wewent and got food right it back to
line, and you know, youwait out there for twelve plus hours and
once game time hits, it's nobetter feeling. How cold was it?

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Oh? It was brutal, absolutelybrutal, especially for the Kansas. The
Kansas game last year in March,we got there at like four in the
morning. I want to say,wow, absolutely brutal. Once the sun
comes up, it's fine. Butbefore that sun came out. We always
like seeing that, don't you.No, absolutely, I mean again,
you know, not just for biggames. You know, our crowd showed

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up every game, you know,and you know, to see them excited
and eager to get inside. Ithink it really excites our guys as well
as they're making their way in thebuilding. Okay, so explain the rules
a little bit about, you know, the leaving the line and coming back
and how that all works to holdyour place. So we kind of just
used really the honor system, anda lot of us that are there early

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are always there early, so wekind of understand where everybody kind of has
their place in line. You showup with a group of like five to
ten people, you can kind oflike send one or two people to go
get water, food, you know, go down to recuse the restroom,
whatever it might be, and thenyou kind of just know that, you
know, you see the line,people know that you're up there, and
they let you back up in.What's the What's the best food item you've

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ever had waiting outside for a game? Chick fil A breakfast? Chick fil
A breakfast has to be. Myfriend dropped it off six point thirty right
with Chick fil A, but shewent to Chick fil A. Especially,
I'd already been there for almost threehours. It was healing to get Chick
fil A breakfast that early. Well, I also wanted to ask you,

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when you're doing this, are areyou able to you know, other students
are coming later and they're seeing youguys in line, what do you say
to them to try to recruit morestudents? We just really show them how
much of a good time we're havingup front of the line. We bring
games, we play music, youknow, we just have fun. We
kind of turned into a small littleparty and it encourages people. Every day
they see our every game people moreand more people show up because they see

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how much fun we're having, howearly we get there, where we get
to sit, and they want tobe a part of it. And we
just kind of create a community environmentthat attracts people. Archie, what what
do you What do your guys say, your players, your staff when they
see students like Quincy and all ofthe other ones in the crowd out there
camping out for hours and hours onend for a game, well, they
get super excited about it. AndI think again too, we talked about

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creating those moments and those those thoseexperiences that you're going to remember the rest
of your time and you know inlife, and you know, that's what
to give us young people that gettinga chance to do our guys get a
chance to do it when they havewhen they're on the bucks and getting a
chance to do that student and comingto games and getting in lines. You'll
never forget that, no doubt aboutthat. Okay, So what what kind

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of advice do you offer the studentsin terms of wanting to get them involved
with the Corral. How do youdeal with that? I'm for like,
specifically with my residents. I justtalk about how much of a great and
fun time basketball environment is. TheMovie Center is second to none as far
as environment goes, and the crowd, the energy of the Corral itself is

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just something that I think all studentsshould experience at least one time. And
I feel like once you experienced once, you're kind of hooked on it.
You just never looked back after that. I appreciate you dropping by it on
Quincy, Thank you minute. Allright, Quincy Smith, Corral Ambassador.
Coming up, we will visit withthe general manager of this program, Lifetime,
Longhorn. Chris Ogni will join uswhen longhoron Weekly with Rodney Terry continues

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from Pluckers the West Campus location onthe Longborn Radio Network from Leopold, Hey.
We want to remind you to registerfree for the Battle in the Big
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closes on November fifth. How abouta nice longhorn welcome for lifetime long Worn
the general manager this basketball program.There's been good to see Aggie. Glad,
glad you could make it out.Let me, uh, let me
get your thoughts first of all onthe whole general manager thing. You've been

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a player, you've been an assistantcoach, you've been a special assistant.
Now you're the Gah what what whatall was that entailed? Well, we're
not sure we're building. It's no, it's you know, it's different times
in college athletics, especially, uhand certainly in college basketball. Things are
changing and landscape is shifting. Andyou know, if you look at if

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you look at what Saving's done overthe years and and Urban Meyer back then
they really started it on the footballside a while back with the whole player
personnel the division and just kind ofseeing it in a different light. And
uh, you know, with nIo coming on board, transfer portal like
it is in a way, it'skind of free agencies. So just you
know a lot of what I dois centered around that and figuring out,

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uh, the best strategy for usgoing forward. But it was, you
know, it's just it's just amatter of the landscape changing. And that
was kind of the whole thought behindthe behind the positions. Artie, You've
had such a unique relationship with Icki, going back to his time as a
player and then going through that asas an assistant coach. First of all,

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has he changed much? You know, I get the feeling his personal
I'm not sure. Yeah, okay, all right, I'll give you that,
But I mean, how have youseen him evolve? I guess I'm
I'm guessing since you've known him fortwenty years, I've seen the whole evolution
about Chris Arden. I mean,you know, I was a young assistant
at Baylor when I first met ChrisArden and showed him around the campus at

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Baylor and tried to recruit to come, come, come and beild a bear.
But you know, didn't got achance to get here in Texas and
got a chance the coaching man workwith him, and well what a time
that was. He and Drew.You know, those guys were a lot
of fun to be around as well. And he made the quickest change from
player to coach in the history ofcoach. You know, he went from
playing one year to the next yearwith those staff with us and uh,

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you know learning, you know whatit took to recruit, what it took
to coach and uh, man,he's uh, he's turned in you know.
I mean, obviously he was thehead coach and he's had a stellar
career to this point. Right now, Now, when you say he made
the quickest transition from player to coach, is that a direct reflection of his
skill set as a player. Isthat how that works? Or is it

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just you just had the more basketballbrain for that. Well again, you
know, we we turned sometimes playersas cerebral guys. Oi was always a
cerebral guy. He was a skilledplayer, but also very cerebral, knew
the game, understood the game,and and uh again, as he made
that transition from player to coach,Uh did a great job. Really good
with people too. Always had greatpeople skills. I want to be a

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good coach, you have to havegreat people skills. I always had great
people skills. It was I shouldpoint this out twenty years ago, this
school year, two thousand and two, two thousand and three, twenty years
ago, or I guess it'd betwenty one years ago, that Chris Hogden
was an intern for me at theradio station. That's right. Yeah,

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Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, and his people skills were on display.
That's why I recalled to that.And and then that's when you discovered
that radio was not for you,as I discovered radio is not for me.
That's that's that's correct. You know, I'm gonna keep coming on here.
You guys are saying all these goodthings about me. You're just stroking
my ego and love it. Butno, I had I had my radio

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debut. We agreed, I hada face for radio. Yep, yep.
But yeah, quick, quick transition. And you know I tell players
all the time that when don't heget to coach him? It is a
hard transition early because you go fromplaying to right to you know, you
go from skipping class with him tomonitoring class. Uh we transition so so

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uh uh, but but it isan interesting transition, so you know.
But but but I had good goodguys. Coach Terry coach Haith, coach
Springman, coach Barnes and others onstaff that really just showed me the ropes
early, uh and and helped meArchie. Did you see Aggie as a

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coach when he was still a player? Could you Could you see the coach
in him? Yeah? No,you could definitely see that for sure.
He's one of those guys again.Uh had an incredible understanding of the game
and was always ready as a player, you know. And we always go
back to that Princeton game all thetime. We were dead in the water
and we're like, hey, wegot put in the game. He's ready
to play, got made some bigshots for us and was a was a

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difference in the game. All right, Chris hockets with us. Will have
another visit here, Aggie and Iwill talk about a few things reminiscing and
looking at this current Longhorn team.Longhorn Weekly with Rodney Terry from here,
Pluckers, We welcome you back toLonghorton Weekly. Come Pluckers the West Campus
location. Our guest during this portionof the program is a lifetime Longhorn and

(27:19):
former assistant coach now general manager isChris Hogden. But in between the time
of being an assistant coach here andthe general manager here. You were an
assistant coach in Knoxville, you werean assistant coach in Lubbock, and an
assistant and head coach and then ahead coach at UTA were What were those

(27:42):
experiences like for you being in differentplaces other than Austin, doing different things.
Well, well, it's interesting.I've told people before, I've kind
of done the coaching route backwards mostyou know, when you get into coach
and you expect to move all aroundthe country and and you're all over the
place. I did it kind ofin reverse. I was here for so

(28:03):
long, and then in the lastsix years I've been you know, three
different places or seven years now,three different places. Fourth, if you
count UNLV. I left Tennessey togo to you U and LVS like twenty
eight days, stayed in a hotel, and then we went to Texas Tech.
So so I've definitely had an interestingpath. But but what you what
you see is just different different waysAthletic departments operate, different ways student bodies

(28:30):
operate, student sections operate. Youjust learned, You just learn a lot
of different ways to do things.See different areas. I loved it because
I just loved I loved living indifferent places and meeting new people and and
and it helped me grow. Andthen being a head coach, there's no
there's no training like the actual jobtraining itself, and so being a head

(28:52):
coach and getting to do that andmake the decisions and uh, you know,
it was it certainly taught me.Taught me a lot, and uh
was it was a fun time.I enjoyed my time there. There would
be those who would say, hey, he rose through the ranks, he
became a head coach, but thenhe walked away from it to come back
to Texas first and assistant now asthe GM. So I mean there would

(29:14):
be people who would want to knowwhat the heart tug was for you that
or the pool that took you awayfrom being a head coach because you were
a head coach at the D onelevel at UT Arlington before coming back here
to Austin. Yeah, and youknow, I would There's not many opportunities
I would have done this for.I was not looking to leave at UTA

(29:34):
necessarily. I was having a greattime there. The people there were great,
the community and the school and everything, and they were building and building
something, and there was really Texas, and it was Texas being in Austin,
and it was where college basketball andcollege athletics were at that moment in
time. Was a real paradigm shift, and so it just there was a

(29:57):
lot of factors that made sense.And you throw in my wife from here,
she went to school here and kidsare born here. That was all,
you know, certainly a part ofit at the end of the day,
but it was almost like the cherryon top, and it was the
opportunity to come back here with thisstaff and really try to bring the Texas
basketball family together, win a nationalchampionship, and close the gap any gap

(30:22):
that we feel like we need tomake up to be really one of those
top echelon programs in the country.I want to ask you about something else,
and I'll ask Artie about this here. In a few minutes, the
basketball world lost an icony yesterday andBob nine and coach Knight obviously was a
Hall of Famer and a great coachand won multiple national championships and things of
that nature. But I know alsoyou got to know him really well,

(30:47):
and obviously when you were on CoachBeard staff, Coach Beard had been on
Coach Knight's staff. You got achance to get to know what comes to
mind when you think about the impacton the game that Bob Knight made as
a coach, all the decades thathe did. Well, I'm not sure
there's a there's another coach out therethat's had an impact like he's had.

(31:07):
You know, Coach Kashsky played andcoached under him. I mean, so
you're talking about too of of thelegends, right Mount Rushmore and and of
basketball. So uh, but butit goes way back with me and my
studying and Bob Knight and and andadmiration. I went to Bob Knight basketball
camp back in when I was inseventh grade, sixth seventh grade, so

(31:29):
uh, my dad was always afan of Bobby Knight. And then and
then he comes out to Lubbock,who where I'm from, and uh and
and my brother plays for him,so then there was a whole nother uh
kind of feeling like you know hima little bit. Then I became really
good friends with the people on thestaff there, Uh, not only Coach
Beard, but Pat Knight, hisson and and uh and then we uh

(31:51):
as as a as a staff studiedthem in him and his team's a lot
because of how good they were,how efficient they were. And I think
the one, if I had topick one thing that that he really affected
in in all of college basketball wouldbe the motion offense. He really coined
the motion offense, developed motion offense, built motion offense, and there's so

(32:15):
many things that we still all stilldo today that kind of come from his
origination of that back in Indiana.Yeah, I mean, and and those
are the I guess the principles onwhich a lot of modern offenses are constructed
today. No, that's exactly right. And and you know he he was.

(32:36):
He was one that was kind ofbuilding it before the three point line
and then you know, slowly adjustedto it, but not much. But
but but he was so far aheadof his time. You know, there's
so there's so many analytics uh aroundthe game now that are telling you to
do certain things. Well, ifyou really think back, he was doing
them. And he was really emphasizedin the free throw line, and he

(32:59):
was really in size and point perpossession and things like that. So he
was so you know, we knewthis playing a Bobby nineteen and we had
pros. We had really we hadan NBA caliber pros, and they were
always really hard to beat, andyou always knew that you had to score
seventy five plus points a game.And that may not sound like a lot,

(33:19):
it's a lot, and it's hardto get to a lot of times
seventy five points a game, it'shard to get to. They scored with
great efficiency, and you had tokeep him off the free to line.
So his team's had identity and hewas just a master at putting the puzzle
together. You know, it's interestingin hearing about it from the past.

(33:40):
He was initially Initially he was nota big fan of the three point shot,
at least until he got Steve golferdAnd and you talk about the dichotomy
because you, I would say this, not just because you're here, but
you and Aj Aburns are probably thetwo best pure shooters I think I've ever
seen in Texas uniform. But theway the way you guys, well,

(34:01):
I appreciate that I am not anAj Abrams class, but I do appreciate
that Aj is one of the bestshooters I've ever been around to this day.
And and including the Steph I mean, I mean Steph is Steph is
obviously worldly we scrimmaged step three.You know, they used to come here
and scrimmage us a lot. AndAJ was right there. I mean he
AJ could could really shoot, butbut coach not. Yeah, you're right.

(34:23):
He wasn't a team that took alot of threes. I think they
averaged four makes a game. Butif you really, if you really peeled
his teams back and study his teams, it was the free throw line is
how they is how they negate upthe talent gap. It was the free
throw line getting your best players offthe floor. And the free throw is

(34:45):
ultimately the highest point per possession thatyou can that you can shoot. So
uh so that's how they were gettingto seventy five. It wasn't the three
point line. And still today,even though the free point line is popular
and huge and importance and it's layupsand threes and that's what analytics tell you,
everybody will agree the free throw lineis still the most important. So

(35:06):
you could have played for it becauseyou were a dead eye free throw shooter
too. Yeah I could have.I could have played for him. Yeah,
yeah, that's exactly right. Hey, it's great to see you.
I appreciate you coming by tonight.Thank you Chris Hogden with us here at
Pluckers. Coming up, Rodney andI will talk about the upcoming season opener
long Wart Weekly from here at Pluckersthe West Campus. Bokay, so we'll
continue on the Longhorn Radio that workfrom there. Opinion. We welcome you

(35:30):
back here to Longhorn Weekly with RodneyCherry from here at Pluckers the West Campus
location here in Austin. Hey.Obviously there's there's a season open to come
on Monday night, But I wantto ask you about something else, and
that is the fact that there wasa brand new state legislative measure that was

(35:52):
past that is going to honor allhigh school coaches in the state of Texas.
It'll be tomorrow it's Texas High SchoolCoaches Day. So uh, you
know for for to be Texas HighSchool Coaches Day. You've been a high
school coach. You understand what thisthing is all about. So h what

(36:15):
does it mean when you think aboutall the coaches, the coaches you played
for, the coaches you know,the coaches you associate, the coaches that
you communicate with as you recruit.This day in time, great, we've
got some of the best coaches inthe country. Uh, in the state
of Texas and uh, you knowwomen female, they me and they do
a great job with our young people. And uh, you know, just

(36:36):
even in the game of basketball.Basketball is growing so much, you know,
in this state because of the coachesin this state. They do a
great job really developing the young playersskill sets and prepare those guys for for
the college level. But just coachesin general, what they do every day
in terms of being educators, teachingand and uh and then going out and

(36:57):
coaching as well. You know,they're just again they're sitting you people on
their path for a great vision inlife. What do you think is the
biggest challenge that high school coaches haveto deal with nowadays? Well, I
think again, you know, wehave different type of kids and sometimes I
think this damn time, it's adifferent generation and a lot of kids nowadays
they just specialize in one sport.You know, they won't play basketball,

(37:19):
football, baseball. So you know, I think it's a challenge sometimes.
When I was growing up, yougot a chance to play every sport and
uh, and now I think that'shard for a lot of coaches to where
you know, they they only havetheir have the one kid that specializes with
them as opposed to coaching kids allacross the board. Uh. I was
just talking to Aggie about Coach Knightand in the basketball world. Now we

(37:39):
all lost coach Knight yesterday, anduh, I know we met a lot
to him, and I wanted toget your thoughts because I know you got
to know Coach Knight as well.And then, uh, I know Coach
Barnes had a great deal of admirationand respect for him. It was a
mutual admiration coach and I really likedwhat Coach Barnes did and you got to
know him outside of that as well. What the impact that you feel that
Coach Knight made on the game ofbasketball. Well, just an innovator of

(38:02):
the game, you know, hewas, you know earning his career.
You know, his teams were reallyreally good defensively, and you know he
always talked the motion office and ashe got to love it, and uh
at Texas Tech, his teams werereally good motion teams. You know when
anytime he had a big man thatcould score, pass and shoot, or
they would lead, you know,and you couldn't guard them for forty minutes.

(38:24):
Man the man, you know,and we didn't really try to.
Over the course of the years thatthat we were here and he was at
Texas Tech, we got to sprinkleon some his own, you know,
and because if you tried to doit, there was no they caught you
up, you know. But buthis impact on the game, uh,
well, you know as a legendaryguy and icon of the game, especially

(38:45):
in college. You know, wegot a chance to work you know,
also in the international circles when youknow, leading the Olympic team with Michael
Jordan. But he was he wasa good man, you know. Once
he finished coaching and he went intobroadcast as well, stayed around the game
and uh just gave it so muchto the game. And even after he
had given up coaching it, itsteps aside and went into the television game.

(39:07):
You you would still tap into hisknowledge, wouldn't you. And when
Texas would play a game and hewas working a game, the long wards
were in. Well, you talkabout a guy that didn't mind shure and
his thoughts on the game, youknow, from an offensive standpoint, from
a defensive standpoint, he was alwaysyou know, had an opinion on something
and didn't mind sharing it with you, and uh, you know, we
can always tell when coach Bournes hadbeen talking uh to coach Knight and because

(39:30):
all of a sudden he wanted tochange what we were doing, and all
of a sudden we wanted to comeand wanted to become a motion team when
that coach went practice motion at all. And you want to be a motion
team. You've been talking to coachNight, no doubt about that. All
right, Uh, coming up,we're gonna before we close up, we're
gonna talk about the season opener onMonday night coming up against Incarnate Word with

(39:51):
Longbordon Weekly but coach Rodney Jerry fromPluckers the West Campus location continues at a
moment, we're back here on LongHorton Weekly, Rodney Terry Premier Plunkers the
West Campus location here at aust Okay. So the season opener comes up on
Monday night against Incarnate Word. Thiswas something we talked about before the SAT
It's game that time applies all ofa sudden movements on you. And that's

(40:14):
how it was with the with youknow, with the exhibition game. Now
it's the season opener, and Iknow the intensity ratchets up a little bit.
But could you see it even inthe exhibition from your guys, that
that that that game feel was cominginto them even in an exhibition game,
and they started to transition more intowhat you want to see from them on

(40:34):
a game night. Sure, no, absolutely, Craig im thinking again,
as we get a chance to playin front of our fans for the first
time as well, you get achance to work out some of the nerves,
some of the kings a little bit, you know. But again,
I guys, prepare for this season, you know, back in the summer
eight weeks, you know, startof the fall. That's why you do
all the things you do to preparefor for this time of year. And
uh, you know, we respectevery opponent, uh that that we play.

(40:59):
We know every game that we playas an nca tournament game. Here's
something I always say in the pregameinterview, no matterless sports, where the
head coach, when you're getting readyfor the first game, there's a lot
of un known when you're going aboutthe opponent, and there perhaps is even
more unknown about it incarnate word withthe coaching change and things of that nature.

(41:20):
But how much do you know aboutthis cardinalty you know, they've got
ten new players, they got anew head coach, and you know,
from what we can gather, youknow, they've got some older experienced players
that go into the junior college route. They're taking some guys out of the
portal, So an older team thatwill probably be excited about playing against us
come Monday night. You know theyare going to be a team in terms
of the identity that I know thatthe new coach wants to have is one

(41:44):
that puts a lot of pressure onthe basket in terms of keeping them off
the glass. A good readouting team, a team that wants to play fast
and transition as well. And youknow, so you know, those are
the kind of things that we knowright now as an identity of incarnate word.
Yeah, in a season opener,when you haven't seen that one specific
team play together with that group anda different coaching staff and things of that

(42:07):
nature, is does that also callfor quite a bit of an adjustment for
you under the coaching staff as thegame is unfolding and you're seeing how they're
attacking you, whether you were expectingit or not expecting, or whether they're
doing something different than what you hadIs it does it look like those types
of things where all of a suddenyou're making more adjustments as the game is

(42:30):
unfolding. Well, you know,you know what I said earlier. We
respect every opponent, but I reallythink early in the years you're trying to
establish your identity. A lot ofit is a predicated on you in terms
of what you're trying to get donefrom a defensive standpoint, offensive standpoint,
and really locking into those details ofhow you want to play, how hard
you want to play, and howunselfish you want to play. All right,

(42:52):
here's what we want to make sureeverybody knows for the game for the
season opener, the first five thousandsand attendance and Moody Center seats ten thousand,
seven hundred and sixty three if Iremember correctly, But the first five
thousand fans are going to receive freeplayer trading cards courtesy of Truist. And

(43:14):
for your students in front, youprobably already knew this. The first eleven
hundred UT students, that's the numberthat will fill the corral. We'll get
free racing games and free Kerral Tshirts. So I have an idea that
they're probably going to be there,right, I mean, the corral kids
are going to be there. Youwant to see a full house on Monday
night. We love to have afull house absolutely. And again our student

(43:37):
our students were great last season andI su make no difference from them this
year in terms of coming out andcreating great moments for themselves and also really
helping our team be successful at ourhigh level. Do you still, as
a coach get as excited about aseason opener as you did when you were
playing all the time? Absolutely,I mean the anxiety level and you know,

(44:00):
just like anything, you're going toget those butterflies, and you know,
until you get out there and youget going a little bit and we'll
get in the groove. You knowyou have those for sure. All right.
I want to remind you that it'llbe Monday night and we look forward
to seeing you at the at MoodyCenter at seven o'clock from the chip off,
and again, first five thousand fansin attendants, we'll receive free player

(44:22):
trading cards courtesy of Truest. Firsteleven hundred UT students and that number would
fill the corral were we receive freeraising gains and free kerral t Shirch.
We thank you for coming out.We'll resume our basketball shows with Coach Terry
when we get to January. We'llhave along one weekly with Coach Sartin next
Wednesday night here recording at Fluckers.Thanks to Chris Hogden joining us as well

(44:45):
for Coach Rodney Tayry, Craig Gray, thanks for savings and we'll see it
at Moody Center
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