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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lou Penrose on news radio six Hundrac Cobo. We are
live in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good to have you along with this happy Wednesday. Will
you heard today that the peace fire agreement, the memorandum
of understanding between everybody and Iran has broken down, That
Iran has broken the agreement and struck targets in Bahrain.
And it really pains me because I am not surprised.
(00:31):
I am just not surprised. You know that I have
not been in favor of this military action against Iran,
with the United States's involvement. But we're here now and
we've got to.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Deal with it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
President Trump is clearly done. He is frustrated, no question
about it. But why it matters to us here in
San Diego? Is this back and forth between a deal
has been reached.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh, we're close.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh, the Iran people are saying that the deal hasn't
been reached. Oh the deal is getting close. Oh wait
now who just struck Lebanon? That throws the deal back.
Now we're getting closer. We got it all worked out,
no nuclear weapons. Now we have an MoU, a memorandum
of understanding, which isn't a deal, but it is a
signal that a deal is forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We're almost there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And then the announcement of a piece agreement and everybody's
on board, and everybody agrees to the terms and conditions
and we get everything we want, and then oil prices drop.
And then hours later their agreement is breached and oil
prices sore and the stock market tanks. And this is
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what happens in the world. But in San Diego, we
are a city with a significant military presence, largest in
uniform population of any city in America.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It has to be whiplash.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It has to be emotional whiplash, not just the soldiers
and sailors, but for their families.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Saber rattling is one thing. War is a whole different thing.
And I will say this for President Trump. When he
says no, we're going to strike, he means it. And
I just I really feel for our men and women
in uniform that live here in San Diego that have
to watch this ping pong game. I don't like it,
(02:25):
and now I don't know how we get out of it.
But I will say this, President Trump is absolutely d
and e done.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I think it's over. I don't want to deal with
them with this gum. You know, scum is this gum?
This sick people. They're lit by sick people and the vicious,
violent people. And if they had a nuclear weapon, that'd
use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So when he says it's over, that means any deal
with the Iranian regime, any opportunity to mend defense, any
opportunity to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
He says, now it's over.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I don't want to do it, but I'm going to
have to go in and destroy them. So this is
where I hoped we would not be. When I objected.
I remember coming on the radio here with you as
the conductor of the Trump train, one of his biggest
supporters and one of his loudest supporters, and I came
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on Monday morning following the announcement of a US Israeli
joint strike on Iran. I said, I don't like it.
I don't like this. This is not America.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
First.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Now, many of you pushed back and said, lou come
on now, don't jump off the Trump train just because
of you don't know all the facts yet. And Victor
Davis Hansen says, we need to wait a couple of days.
And I said, all right, I'll give it a couple
of days. But I don't think it's going in the
right direction. I don't want to be involved in the
Middle East anymore forever. I'm sick of the Middle East.
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I've been dealing with the Middle East since i was
a kid. It never gets better. It always seems to
require the United States. It costs US money, time, soldiers,
and treasury, and we get nothing out of it. And
now that we have our own domestic energy, we don't
need the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let Japan worry about the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They don't have any oil rigs they need petroleum. Let
Germany deal with it, Let the United Kingdom deal with it.
Let them kill each other. I don't care. Let Israel
take them out. If there really are a nuclear threat,
then tell Tel Aviv to bombs away. But it's not
our problem. And we always get sucked into other nations problems,
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and I'm sick of it. So my isolationism has never
been higher than it is today. And some of you
agree with me, but many of you didn't. And that's okay.
I haven't changed my tune. I said, all right, I
will let it light out and we'll see what this goes.
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I do believe that Trump is very good at making deals.
He pulls rabbits out of a hat all the time
everywhere in the world and here in the United States.
So maybe, just maybe, for the first time since I
was a kid, since the seventies, the Middle East will
be resolved and Trump will be the person that brings.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
About the resolution.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So I've been waiting and it hasn't happened, and gas
prices started to go down, and I'm like, all right, well,
this is good. And now gas prices are going up again.
And the stock market was teetering on record closing above
fifty three thousand, and now it's down again. Because war
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is bad, and the United States involved in a war
that does not involve us.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Is really bad. And I don't know where we go
from here.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And Trump campaigned on getting us out of endless wars,
talking about Afghanistan. That was a tragedy that we were
involved in Afghanistan for as long as we were. And
I feel like we've been involved in this conflict with
Iran every single day that we've been.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Involved too long. But now what now? When Trump says
I'm done, what are you done with?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's the Pottery Barn Rule in full effect, the Colin
Powell part of Pottery Barn rule. This is the advice
that then Secretary of Defense Colin Powell gave to President
George W. Bush, and that is, if you want to
get involved with Saddam mussaying, you want to tangle and
you want to decapitate, then Iraq realize, Sir, you break it,
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you bought it. And we are in the same boat
now with Iran. We've toppled the regime, the Ayatola or
whatever who.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Whatever leadership.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you never know who's really alive or dead anymore.
But whatever leadership is there was, there is not there
now this newlyleadership, I guess we're talking to but they're also.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Mulas.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I guess there's no secular government available or does the
Iranian leadership kill any secular resistance and there's nobody to
ali with.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's what Trump said. Trump said, the.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Problem is that there's nobody to work with. There's nobody there,
there's no good guys to support. There's no freedom fighters
in Iran because Iran kills the freedom fighters before we
can talk to them.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people, They've hurt their people.
They killed fifty four thousand people as of now that
we're protesting. You know, when people say, how could they
haven't taken over? They can't take over because they're dead.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They killed them. Nobody's going to take over.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They have no guns and the other.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Side has machine guns. Yeah, so how could you not
have known that?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, was the plan that there'd be an uprising
of secular western in Iran that would take over and
they'd be friendly to the United States and that would
be the way it was going to be going forward.
Because if that was the plan, then that is a
bad plan. Also, by the way, a huge acknowledgment that
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the Second Amendment is really important.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't know if you caught that in there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So this is a real problem for us in San
Diego because we have the fighting men and women here
that have to watch this and worry about it, and
it does.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Seem rudderless to me. I don't know where it's going.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You can't just be done well in many respects you can,
I mean, you have to admit failure and walk away.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I don't think Trump should do that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don't think he wants to do that, but I
don't know what going forward looks like. I don't want
to own Iran. I don't want to install a puppet regime.
I don't want to have to deal with it for
the next fifty years. And I think, now we did
break it, we have to buy it because countries like
Japan and Singapore and European countries that rely on Persian
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guff oil that we're fine with the religious fundamentalists in
the Ayahtola are now going to be like, hey, the
United States, you got involved, you messed it up. Now
it's lawlessness there and there's no security for our roll tankers.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So now you have to fix it or buy it?
What say you? Eight hundred six hundred Cogo eight hundred,
six hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And five six four six And if you're listening live,
you can call this, particularly if you are a family
member or a member of the United States Military station
here in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You're watching this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You can not identify yourself, but you can certainly share
your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
We'd love to hear from you. Lou Penrose on news
Radio six hundred COGO Live and Local.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Talking about the frustration President Trump is having now the
peace deal between Iran and the United States, and Israel
has been breached at the hands of Iran.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Why is anybody surprised? Trump is just absolutely done. I
think it's over.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't want to deal with him with this gum,
you know, gum is this gum, This sick people.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And so I know that that's why there has not
been peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Not the people of Iran, the political leadership of Iran
and many of these Middle Eastern countries. These are stone
age thinking people, and we're not. We're in the West,
We're first World. They're backward ass and it's been that
way from the get go, and that's why I don't
want to deal with them. And I just was so
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hopeful that I wouldn't have to hear about other nations
problems under this second term.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And he was doing good for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
My favorite day is when he kicked Zelenski out of
the Oval office and told him to go fight on
his own. And I'm great, let's get back to making
America great again. And it wasn't six months and now
we're involved in this never ending conflict with Iran. That
is frustrating Trump because you can't talk to these people
you can't work with these people, and I think it's
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having an impact on the men and women in uniform
in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's not really a ping pong.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
They know better. They've been this before, and it's social media.
It's media.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, they ping pong all the time period.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
The families no better. Let's let Trump cook man.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I appreciate that, right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't want my friends and neighbors in uniform to
have to be through this over and over and over again.
I want them to be readily prepared to protect America
and Americans interests everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
This is not America's interest. I well, it depends on
who you believe.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, if you honestly believe that they were developing
a nuclear weapon for the purposes of striking us here
in San Diego, or your aunt Carol and Boston, or
your friend in Miami or my brother in North Carolina,
then we did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
If they were close to having a nuclear weapon and
they were so unhinged that they wanted to kill Jews
so much and they didn't care what happened to them,
why haven't they bombed Tel Aviv yet? I think what
we do is the right thing what we did earlier
this year, and that is any intelligence that suggests that
they're getting close to enriching uranium to make a nuclear weapon,
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we go blow it up, and then we fly home
and drill for domestic oil. Because every time we blow
something up in Iran or world, oil prices surge, and
we tell countries like Japan and Singapore we have oil.
We have this great, big place called Alaska, so we
will be supplying your oil for.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Going forward.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's a lot closer than the Persian Gulf. You can
save yourself a toll charge in the Panama Canal.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Like, let's be smart. Blow them up.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They look during the Stone Age anyway, blow it up
every time they get close. Every time you see two
nuclear scientists get together in Tehran, blow it up. And
that's Leave the mula is in charge, Leave the eyetola
in charge. These maniacs love to be in charge. Leave
the religious fundamentalists alone. Just remove the danger and do
business elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Novel concept. Lou, You have no choice but to be
involved in the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
If Trump didn't do something, we would be involved in
the Middle East forever.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Stop believing that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Why do you believe that. Stop believing that. We have
been told that since I was a kid and my
dad was on gas lines in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It is so not true.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Stop believing that we have to be involved in the
Middle East.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We have no business there, we have no strategic interest there,
we have no humanitarian interest there. We're only hated, We're
only in harm's way. We don't need their oil, and
we have our own oil if it was so necessary,
and we're not the policeman of the world.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Stop believing that we are.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We have no legal, ethical, or logical obligation to the
Persian golf.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But everyone tells me, ALU, you know, we got to
be involved.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
If we're not involved, then it's gonna be then let
there be chaos.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We're not gonna have chaos. We're gonna be fine, just like.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
How we're no longer involved in Ukraine and Russia and
we're just fine. We're always gonna be fine. We don't
need anybody. Now it's gonna be troublesome for other nations
that rely on Persian golf oil. Let them step up
and figure it out. We'll even host the meeting, like
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I'm all about hosting the meeting. If let's say Germany
and Japan want to have a meeting with the Ayatola
about the version golf and what's going on over there
because rely on oil out of the Persian gulp, then
they can have it in the East. Well, they can't
have it in the East Room anymore, you know, We'll
rent out a hotel room and they can sit down
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and we'll cater it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Like we can be supportive of the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But we don't have to be in charge of this
crap evero. They're just trying to get at a stall
till the next presidential election, you know, because if the
Democrat gets in, boom, they got a nuke. Yeah. I
don't think this nuke exists. I don't think the nuke
is coming. I am sure that Israel is more concerned
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about the nuke than we are.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So they have better intelligence than.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Likely we do, or at least as good, and they'll
be the first to take out any anything that comes
close to Iran being able to launch a nuke at
Tel Aviv. I'm highly confident of that because their lives
are literally on the line. It's the pottery barn theory
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in full effect. Lou Penrose on news radio six hundred
cogo talking about the breakdown of the presagreement between Iran
and the United States and Israel. And it's just very,
very troubling because I think we have a long road
ahead and this president campaigned on getting us out of
endless wars, and I think that the Middle East is
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quicksand you can't help. All you can do is support
Israel and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Send band aids. That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I think it's troublesome for the men and women
of San Diego who are in uniform that are just
watching this back and forth continue to go on.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I've definitely had my fill of the back and forth
with Iran. But I think, since we're already so invested,
why don't we just flatten it, turn it over to
the Iranian people, give them one chance to turn it
back like it was in the seventies before the revolution,
and let them make something of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think that's the only way forward. But that's expensive, Uh,
that puts our lives at risk, and that's nation building,
and we're not supposed to be nation building.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We tried that any rock, and I don't know, are
you going to Baghdad for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean, who's going to Baghdad?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So I don't know what's going on in Baghdad. But
we didn't do a good job nation building there, and
I don't want to be nation building. This is why
I didn't want to get involved in the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm just disappointing because I don't feel like anything Trump's
done so far as presidency has made anything much better
for us here at home, middle class, middle class workers
still paying a lot for everything. We're worried about the
Middle East. I don't know, checkulated.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
See I don't want that sediment growing because the caller
you're You're not right. Things are certainly better for the
middle class, without question, but the headlines are about the
international failures.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
See a lot of this is narrative driving right.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And what Trump did over the fourth of July holiday
to establish the Trump Baby Bank accounts where every newborn
gets a thousand dollars and the opportunity for you to
contribute to it, so that literally a newborn baby in
twenty twenty six can be a millionaire by the age
of twenty eight, just because of the miracle of compounding interest.
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That's brilliant idea. If you're a Republican Democrat or an
independent and you are having a baby, or if you
have young.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Children, you should absolutely take advantage of that. And no headlines,
no talk.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Toyota has moved its Toyota Tacoma manufacturing plant from Mexico
to Texas. Americans will be manufacturing Toyotas. More Americans will
be manufacturing manufacturing cars this year, Toyota cars than any
other country. That's because of Trump's work. No headlines, right,
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but all we hear about is the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Hey, lou Trump doesn't need anybody to back him up,
but if anybody should back him up, we should back
him up and everything he does at this point until
further notice.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I have to be honest, and I am very happy
with my vote. I'm very happy with the agenda. I'm
very happy with all the other promises that he has
made he has kept, except this is he's not breaking
a promise. He really thought he was going to be
able to talk with these people, and now he realizes
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that they're just crazy people.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And they kill anybody that's sane.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So we can't even work with the same people, and
now we're stuck, and I'm just really disgruntled about it.
I don't see oil prices going down now if Iran
is not going to come to the negotiating table, like
what good is having a new memorandum of understanding. That's
the problem with these third world, hell whole countries. And
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Iran is not a third world, but it's worse than
a third world country. It'd be easier to deal with
a rational third world leader than an irrational, religious fundamentalist dictatorship.
And the Middle East is just filled with these kinds
of people. Then we can't work with them, and apparently
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we can't work with NATO either. Trump was saying that
earlier today. Very disappointed with our friends in this endeavor.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But when they could have, they were there for us,
and we've been there for then. We spent over a
threetion dollars over the last short period of trillion in
order to protect these countries from Russia. But it's been
a long term thing and they haven't treated us right.
But we've been treated unfairly. We paid disproportionately. A few
weeks ago I spoke with the UK and the Prime
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Minister said, well, we don't want to help you in
Apple will help you when the war's over. Is that
that's not good? And likewise, I spoke to Germany, they
didn't want to help. Spoke to France, you didn't want
to help. Nobody wanted to help, right, So.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean France and Germany and the UK they don't
want to get involved in solving problems in the Middle East.
They apparently either don't believe or don't care that the
Iranian regime was getting close to developing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A nuclear weapon. So what does that tell you? So
I look, I think Trump is spot on in his
threat to just completely leave NATO. I have been saying
that for years World War Two is over.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The Western European Alliance is unnecessary. We do not need
to safeguard Western Europe from an advance from the Russian Federation.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The Soviet Union is gone. Rambo was a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's all over. And now that we know it wasn't
that big of a threat. Then Gorbachev was not going
to invade Poland, it was never gonna happen. The Iron
Curtain was never going to move westward. We were always fine.
Germany was always fine, France was fine, the UK fine.
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They were all fine, They're always gonna be fine. But
they tricked us into spending a tremendous amount of money
on military supplies and equipment and installations in Western Europe.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So that we could hire the locals and create jobs.
It's all Stute Guard Germany is.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's a German job program funded by the United States
Department of Defense.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
We don't need to be in Stuttgart, Germany.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
At all, but were there, and then you find out that, oh,
look at that. So none of these nations that are
right there in Western Europe, they're not been paying their
fair share. So Trump threatens them, and now they're coughing
up money and paying their fair share. But we don't
need to be protected. The Russian Federation cannot even defeat Ukraine,
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that's how weak they are. Texas has a larger GDP
than the Russian Federation. You hear the word Russian and
you think it's nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Four, like all the Russians. Oh, we should be worried.
Don't worry. They're meek and weak and they're not going
to cause any trouble. Wi Lou. They have nuclear weapons,
so does Pakistan. It doesn't make them a threat.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But the longer Western Europe tells you that they're a threat,
the longer you think, well, we should probably stay in
NATO to safeguard against Russian aggress because you know that's
what that happens. We'll really regret it and we wish
we did. Then riddle me this, why is in Poland worried?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
So?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think this NATO thing was billigods, it sounded good,
like you know, in the late forties and nineteen fifties,
and never really sounded like a good idea for us.
But you know, I was an isolationist back in the
eighties and nineties two and now here I am, you know,
forty years later and a lot poorer as a nation,
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having funded this NATO thing. And now we have a
little thing going on with Iran that affects the world
oil supply, that benefits France and the UK and Germany,
and they are NATO allies don't even want to help.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, how many times do we have to be fool?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Penrose on news radios six hundred Coga So coming up
following the news at four o'clock, vacancies are up in
San Diego. Some of the highest vacancy numbers for apartments
that we've had in quite some time now. Normally vacancies
causes rents to flatten or even go down, but it's
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not happened yet. We'll find out why coming up following
the news at four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
We definitely need bands or to stay, but also stuet
Guard is on the European headquarters, so they have to
stay too.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I appreciate the call. You can choose one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't know why exactly do I need an American
European headquarters.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I've been to shoot Guard, it's I've been on base.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's great, but it's big and the war's over, so
why do I need it to be there? We already
we already have embassies in these places, and the embassies
are guarded by the United States Marines, so we have
a military press since to the degree that it's needed.
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Russia is not invading Europe, so why are we pretending
they are? And even if Russia was, and NATO was necessary,
and you convinced me that we should continue to have
the North Atlantic Treaty organization and completely be taken advantage
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of it by the European NATO members like we are.
Even if you can convince me of that we are.
The President says the United States was threatened by Iran
with nuclear capability. Why aren't our NATO friends helping?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Good? Are they so not buying it? Don't even try
selling it?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So what do you statistic?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
He do?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Then, mister Luke Pynrose just focused on America and the
United States based on all the illegals pouring in, the
drugs coming in. It's on portability, guess crisis crime.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, exactly like that. That's my suggestion. All right, we
got more scammers out there.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We're all we're doing is finding scam and I'm glad
that the Vice President, Jade Vance, has been made the
point person to go through all the agencies and find waste,
fraud and abuse. And it's amazing just how much fraud
is going on out there. We have a lot of
problems with illegal aliens in the country, and then we
have actual legal foreigners that are here on work visas.
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They're called the H one B program. These are temporary
workers to fill a shortage of labor in an area
that's necessary. Traditionally it has been agriculture, but it's not
always agriculture.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Sometimes it's high tech.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So we have these legitimate visas where people that are
not Americans are in the country working in America legally,
and that program is being fraud.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
The Department of Labor says fraudsters have been abusing visa programs,
allowing human trafficking to thrive and undercutting American workers, fraudulent
applications for H one B visas those are supposed to
address real labor shortages.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, is anybody that is not an American legally
doing anything in the United States. It's as if nobody,
not a single foreigner, is following any of our rule.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Employers and labor brokers exploited foreign workers using coercive wage kickbacks,
paying them less than they would pay American workers.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Right, and so now we have the people that are
Americans applying for H ONEB visas from the State Department.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
To get legal foreigners.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Into the United States, and now they're undercutting American workers.
So they were not necessary labor. They were just cheaper labor,
which depresses our wages. It's a fight, man, everybody out
there's a crooked seams. If it's not illegals stealing our
social Security checks or taking the jobs, it's legals that
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are fraud.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
They're committing fraud in the HMMB visa programs.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Among the top states for these visa applications are New York, California,
and Illinois.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Why am I not surprised that California is in the
top three.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm beginning to believe that between unemployment fraud, food stamp fraud,
illegals getting medical and now it's the H one B
visa program, which is legal foreign workers usually seasonal, usually
in agriculture, that every they're all this fraud in all
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of those places that we are a way wealthier state
than we think we don't have. Probably there's probably so
much money. Like if you got all the people committing fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
At the at the at.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Add in Sacramento, at the unemployment part, and then you
get all the people that are committing fraud with snap
pretending that they can't work when they're just actually lazy,
and then you get all the illegals out of medical
which according to the California State Assembly Member Carl DeMaio,
is now up to thirteen billion, thirteen billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Giving free welfare to illegals.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And now you go through the agriculture community and find
all these people that are committing fraud in the HMB
VISA program.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
There's got to be billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If it's thirteen billion dollars just in medical to illegals,
imagine what we'll find. So I'm glad jd Vance is
Johnny on the spot. But man oh Man, is it
tough to swallow as a taxpayer who actually does things legally.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Real change requires real change.
Lou Penrose on news radio six Hundrac Cobo. We are
live in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good to have you along with this happy Wednesday. Will
you heard today that the peace fire agreement, the memorandum
of understanding between everybody and Iran has broken down, That
Iran has broken the agreement and struck targets in Bahrain.
And it really pains me because I am not surprised.
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I am just not surprised. You know that I have
not been in favor of this military action against Iran,
with the United States's involvement. But we're here now and
we've got to.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Deal with it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
President Trump is clearly done. He is frustrated, no question
about it. But why it matters to us here in
San Diego? Is this back and forth between a deal
has been reached.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh, we're close.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh, the Iran people are saying that the deal hasn't
been reached. Oh the deal is getting close. Oh wait
now who just struck Lebanon? That throws the deal back.
Now we're getting closer. We got it all worked out,
no nuclear weapons. Now we have an MoU, a memorandum
of understanding, which isn't a deal, but it is a
signal that a deal is forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We're almost there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And then the announcement of a piece agreement and everybody's
on board, and everybody agrees to the terms and conditions
and we get everything we want, and then oil prices drop.
And then hours later their agreement is breached and oil
prices sore and the stock market tanks. And this is
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what happens in the world. But in San Diego, we
are a city with a significant military presence, largest in
uniform population of any city in America.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It has to be whiplash.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It has to be emotional whiplash, not just the soldiers
and sailors, but for their families.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Saber rattling is one thing. War is a whole different thing.
And I will say this for President Trump. When he
says no, we're going to strike, he means it. And
I just I really feel for our men and women
in uniform that live here in San Diego that have
to watch this ping pong game. I don't like it,
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and now I don't know how we get out of it.
But I will say this, President Trump is absolutely d
and e done.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I think it's over. I don't want to deal with
them with this gum. You know, scum is this gum?
This sick people. They're lit by sick people and the vicious,
violent people. And if they had a nuclear weapon, that'd
use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So when he says it's over, that means any deal
with the Iranian regime, any opportunity to mend defense, any
opportunity to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
He says, now it's over.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I don't want to do it, but I'm going to
have to go in and destroy them. So this is
where I hoped we would not be. When I objected.
I remember coming on the radio here with you as
the conductor of the Trump train, one of his biggest
supporters and one of his loudest supporters, and I came
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on Monday morning following the announcement of a US Israeli
joint strike on Iran. I said, I don't like it.
I don't like this. This is not America.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
First.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Now, many of you pushed back and said, lou come
on now, don't jump off the Trump train just because
of you don't know all the facts yet. And Victor
Davis Hansen says, we need to wait a couple of days.
And I said, all right, I'll give it a couple
of days. But I don't think it's going in the
right direction. I don't want to be involved in the
Middle East anymore forever. I'm sick of the Middle East.
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I've been dealing with the Middle East since i was
a kid. It never gets better. It always seems to
require the United States. It costs US money, time, soldiers,
and treasury, and we get nothing out of it. And
now that we have our own domestic energy, we don't
need the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let Japan worry about the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They don't have any oil rigs they need petroleum. Let
Germany deal with it, Let the United Kingdom deal with it.
Let them kill each other. I don't care. Let Israel
take them out. If there really are a nuclear threat,
then tell Tel Aviv to bombs away. But it's not
our problem. And we always get sucked into other nations problems,
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and I'm sick of it. So my isolationism has never
been higher than it is today. And some of you
agree with me, but many of you didn't. And that's okay.
I haven't changed my tune. I said, all right, I
will let it light out and we'll see what this goes.
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I do believe that Trump is very good at making deals.
He pulls rabbits out of a hat all the time
everywhere in the world and here in the United States.
So maybe, just maybe, for the first time since I
was a kid, since the seventies, the Middle East will
be resolved and Trump will be the person that brings.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
About the resolution.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So I've been waiting and it hasn't happened, and gas
prices started to go down, and I'm like, all right, well,
this is good. And now gas prices are going up again.
And the stock market was teetering on record closing above
fifty three thousand, and now it's down again. Because war
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is bad, and the United States involved in a war
that does not involve us.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Is really bad. And I don't know where we go
from here.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And Trump campaigned on getting us out of endless wars,
talking about Afghanistan. That was a tragedy that we were
involved in Afghanistan for as long as we were. And
I feel like we've been involved in this conflict with
Iran every single day that we've been.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Involved too long. But now what now? When Trump says
I'm done, what are you done with?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's the Pottery Barn Rule in full effect, the Colin
Powell part of Pottery Barn rule. This is the advice
that then Secretary of Defense Colin Powell gave to President
George W. Bush, and that is, if you want to
get involved with Saddam mussaying, you want to tangle and
you want to decapitate, then Iraq realize, Sir, you break it,
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you bought it. And we are in the same boat
now with Iran. We've toppled the regime, the Ayatola or
whatever who.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Whatever leadership.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you never know who's really alive or dead anymore.
But whatever leadership is there was, there is not there
now this newlyleadership, I guess we're talking to but they're also.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Mulas.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I guess there's no secular government available or does the
Iranian leadership kill any secular resistance and there's nobody to
ali with.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's what Trump said. Trump said, the.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Problem is that there's nobody to work with. There's nobody there,
there's no good guys to support. There's no freedom fighters
in Iran because Iran kills the freedom fighters before we
can talk to them.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people, They've hurt their people.
They killed fifty four thousand people as of now that
we're protesting. You know, when people say, how could they
haven't taken over? They can't take over because they're dead.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They killed them. Nobody's going to take over.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They have no guns and the other.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Side has machine guns. Yeah, so how could you not
have known that?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, was the plan that there'd be an uprising
of secular western in Iran that would take over and
they'd be friendly to the United States and that would
be the way it was going to be going forward.
Because if that was the plan, then that is a
bad plan. Also, by the way, a huge acknowledgment that
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the Second Amendment is really important.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't know if you caught that in there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So this is a real problem for us in San
Diego because we have the fighting men and women here
that have to watch this and worry about it, and
it does.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Seem rudderless to me. I don't know where it's going.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You can't just be done well in many respects you can,
I mean, you have to admit failure and walk away.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I don't think Trump should do that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don't think he wants to do that, but I
don't know what going forward looks like. I don't want
to own Iran. I don't want to install a puppet regime.
I don't want to have to deal with it for
the next fifty years. And I think, now we did
break it, we have to buy it because countries like
Japan and Singapore and European countries that rely on Persian
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guff oil that we're fine with the religious fundamentalists in
the Ayahtola are now going to be like, hey, the
United States, you got involved, you messed it up. Now
it's lawlessness there and there's no security for our roll tankers.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So now you have to fix it or buy it?
What say you? Eight hundred six hundred Cogo eight hundred,
six hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And five six four six And if you're listening live,
you can call this, particularly if you are a family
member or a member of the United States Military station
here in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You're watching this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You can not identify yourself, but you can certainly share
your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
We'd love to hear from you. Lou Penrose on news
Radio six hundred COGO Live and Local.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Talking about the frustration President Trump is having now the
peace deal between Iran and the United States, and Israel
has been breached at the hands of Iran.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Why is anybody surprised? Trump is just absolutely done. I
think it's over.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't want to deal with him with this gum,
you know, gum is this gum, This sick people.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And so I know that that's why there has not
been peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Not the people of Iran, the political leadership of Iran
and many of these Middle Eastern countries. These are stone
age thinking people, and we're not. We're in the West,
We're first World. They're backward ass and it's been that
way from the get go, and that's why I don't
want to deal with them. And I just was so
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hopeful that I wouldn't have to hear about other nations
problems under this second term.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And he was doing good for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
My favorite day is when he kicked Zelenski out of
the Oval office and told him to go fight on
his own. And I'm great, let's get back to making
America great again. And it wasn't six months and now
we're involved in this never ending conflict with Iran. That
is frustrating Trump because you can't talk to these people
you can't work with these people, and I think it's
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having an impact on the men and women in uniform
in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's not really a ping pong.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
They know better. They've been this before, and it's social media.
It's media.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, they ping pong all the time period.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
The families no better. Let's let Trump cook man.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I appreciate that, right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't want my friends and neighbors in uniform to
have to be through this over and over and over again.
I want them to be readily prepared to protect America
and Americans interests everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
This is not America's interest. I well, it depends on
who you believe.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, if you honestly believe that they were developing
a nuclear weapon for the purposes of striking us here
in San Diego, or your aunt Carol and Boston, or
your friend in Miami or my brother in North Carolina,
then we did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
If they were close to having a nuclear weapon and
they were so unhinged that they wanted to kill Jews
so much and they didn't care what happened to them,
why haven't they bombed Tel Aviv yet? I think what
we do is the right thing what we did earlier
this year, and that is any intelligence that suggests that
they're getting close to enriching uranium to make a nuclear weapon,
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we go blow it up, and then we fly home
and drill for domestic oil. Because every time we blow
something up in Iran or world, oil prices surge, and
we tell countries like Japan and Singapore we have oil.
We have this great, big place called Alaska, so we
will be supplying your oil for.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Going forward.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's a lot closer than the Persian Gulf. You can
save yourself a toll charge in the Panama Canal.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Like, let's be smart. Blow them up.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They look during the Stone Age anyway, blow it up
every time they get close. Every time you see two
nuclear scientists get together in Tehran, blow it up. And
that's Leave the mula is in charge, Leave the eyetola
in charge. These maniacs love to be in charge. Leave
the religious fundamentalists alone. Just remove the danger and do
business elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Novel concept. Lou, You have no choice but to be
involved in the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
If Trump didn't do something, we would be involved in
the Middle East forever.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Stop believing that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Why do you believe that. Stop believing that. We have
been told that since I was a kid and my
dad was on gas lines in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It is so not true.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Stop believing that we have to be involved in the
Middle East.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We have no business there, we have no strategic interest there,
we have no humanitarian interest there. We're only hated, We're
only in harm's way. We don't need their oil, and
we have our own oil if it was so necessary,
and we're not the policeman of the world.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Stop believing that we are.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We have no legal, ethical, or logical obligation to the
Persian golf.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But everyone tells me, ALU, you know, we got to
be involved.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
If we're not involved, then it's gonna be then let
there be chaos.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We're not gonna have chaos. We're gonna be fine, just like.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
How we're no longer involved in Ukraine and Russia and
we're just fine. We're always gonna be fine. We don't
need anybody. Now it's gonna be troublesome for other nations
that rely on Persian golf oil. Let them step up
and figure it out. We'll even host the meeting, like
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I'm all about hosting the meeting. If let's say Germany
and Japan want to have a meeting with the Ayatola
about the version golf and what's going on over there
because rely on oil out of the Persian gulp, then
they can have it in the East. Well, they can't
have it in the East Room anymore, you know, We'll
rent out a hotel room and they can sit down
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and we'll cater it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Like we can be supportive of the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But we don't have to be in charge of this
crap evero. They're just trying to get at a stall
till the next presidential election, you know, because if the
Democrat gets in, boom, they got a nuke. Yeah. I
don't think this nuke exists. I don't think the nuke
is coming. I am sure that Israel is more concerned
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about the nuke than we are.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So they have better intelligence than.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Likely we do, or at least as good, and they'll
be the first to take out any anything that comes
close to Iran being able to launch a nuke at
Tel Aviv. I'm highly confident of that because their lives
are literally on the line. It's the pottery barn theory
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in full effect. Lou Penrose on news radio six hundred
cogo talking about the breakdown of the presagreement between Iran
and the United States and Israel. And it's just very,
very troubling because I think we have a long road
ahead and this president campaigned on getting us out of
endless wars, and I think that the Middle East is
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quicksand you can't help. All you can do is support
Israel and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Send band aids. That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I think it's troublesome for the men and women
of San Diego who are in uniform that are just
watching this back and forth continue to go on.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I've definitely had my fill of the back and forth
with Iran. But I think, since we're already so invested,
why don't we just flatten it, turn it over to
the Iranian people, give them one chance to turn it
back like it was in the seventies before the revolution,
and let them make something of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think that's the only way forward. But that's expensive, Uh,
that puts our lives at risk, and that's nation building,
and we're not supposed to be nation building.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We tried that any rock, and I don't know, are
you going to Baghdad for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean, who's going to Baghdad?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So I don't know what's going on in Baghdad. But
we didn't do a good job nation building there, and
I don't want to be nation building. This is why
I didn't want to get involved in the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm just disappointing because I don't feel like anything Trump's
done so far as presidency has made anything much better
for us here at home, middle class, middle class workers
still paying a lot for everything. We're worried about the
Middle East. I don't know, checkulated.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
See I don't want that sediment growing because the caller
you're You're not right. Things are certainly better for the
middle class, without question, but the headlines are about the
international failures.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
See a lot of this is narrative driving right.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And what Trump did over the fourth of July holiday
to establish the Trump Baby Bank accounts where every newborn
gets a thousand dollars and the opportunity for you to
contribute to it, so that literally a newborn baby in
twenty twenty six can be a millionaire by the age
of twenty eight, just because of the miracle of compounding interest.
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That's brilliant idea. If you're a Republican Democrat or an
independent and you are having a baby, or if you
have young.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Children, you should absolutely take advantage of that. And no headlines,
no talk.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Toyota has moved its Toyota Tacoma manufacturing plant from Mexico
to Texas. Americans will be manufacturing Toyotas. More Americans will
be manufacturing manufacturing cars this year, Toyota cars than any
other country. That's because of Trump's work. No headlines, right,
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but all we hear about is the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Hey, lou Trump doesn't need anybody to back him up,
but if anybody should back him up, we should back
him up and everything he does at this point until
further notice.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I have to be honest, and I am very happy
with my vote. I'm very happy with the agenda. I'm
very happy with all the other promises that he has
made he has kept, except this is he's not breaking
a promise. He really thought he was going to be
able to talk with these people, and now he realizes
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that they're just crazy people.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And they kill anybody that's sane.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So we can't even work with the same people, and
now we're stuck, and I'm just really disgruntled about it.
I don't see oil prices going down now if Iran
is not going to come to the negotiating table, like
what good is having a new memorandum of understanding. That's
the problem with these third world, hell whole countries. And
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Iran is not a third world, but it's worse than
a third world country. It'd be easier to deal with
a rational third world leader than an irrational, religious fundamentalist dictatorship.
And the Middle East is just filled with these kinds
of people. Then we can't work with them, and apparently
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we can't work with NATO either. Trump was saying that
earlier today. Very disappointed with our friends in this endeavor.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But when they could have, they were there for us,
and we've been there for then. We spent over a
threetion dollars over the last short period of trillion in
order to protect these countries from Russia. But it's been
a long term thing and they haven't treated us right.
But we've been treated unfairly. We paid disproportionately. A few
weeks ago I spoke with the UK and the Prime
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Minister said, well, we don't want to help you in
Apple will help you when the war's over. Is that
that's not good? And likewise, I spoke to Germany, they
didn't want to help. Spoke to France, you didn't want
to help. Nobody wanted to help, right, So.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean France and Germany and the UK they don't
want to get involved in solving problems in the Middle East.
They apparently either don't believe or don't care that the
Iranian regime was getting close to developing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A nuclear weapon. So what does that tell you? So
I look, I think Trump is spot on in his
threat to just completely leave NATO. I have been saying
that for years World War Two is over.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The Western European Alliance is unnecessary. We do not need
to safeguard Western Europe from an advance from the Russian Federation.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The Soviet Union is gone. Rambo was a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's all over. And now that we know it wasn't
that big of a threat. Then Gorbachev was not going
to invade Poland, it was never gonna happen. The Iron
Curtain was never going to move westward. We were always fine.
Germany was always fine, France was fine, the UK fine.
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They were all fine, They're always gonna be fine. But
they tricked us into spending a tremendous amount of money
on military supplies and equipment and installations in Western Europe.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So that we could hire the locals and create jobs.
It's all Stute Guard Germany is.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's a German job program funded by the United States
Department of Defense.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
We don't need to be in Stuttgart, Germany.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
At all, but were there, and then you find out that, oh,
look at that. So none of these nations that are
right there in Western Europe, they're not been paying their
fair share. So Trump threatens them, and now they're coughing
up money and paying their fair share. But we don't
need to be protected. The Russian Federation cannot even defeat Ukraine,
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that's how weak they are. Texas has a larger GDP
than the Russian Federation. You hear the word Russian and
you think it's nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Four, like all the Russians. Oh, we should be worried.
Don't worry. They're meek and weak and they're not going
to cause any trouble. Wi Lou. They have nuclear weapons,
so does Pakistan. It doesn't make them a threat.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But the longer Western Europe tells you that they're a threat,
the longer you think, well, we should probably stay in
NATO to safeguard against Russian aggress because you know that's
what that happens. We'll really regret it and we wish
we did. Then riddle me this, why is in Poland worried?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
So?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think this NATO thing was billigods, it sounded good,
like you know, in the late forties and nineteen fifties,
and never really sounded like a good idea for us.
But you know, I was an isolationist back in the
eighties and nineties two and now here I am, you know,
forty years later and a lot poorer as a nation,
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having funded this NATO thing. And now we have a
little thing going on with Iran that affects the world
oil supply, that benefits France and the UK and Germany,
and they are NATO allies don't even want to help.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, how many times do we have to be fool?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Penrose on news radios six hundred Coga So coming up
following the news at four o'clock, vacancies are up in
San Diego. Some of the highest vacancy numbers for apartments
that we've had in quite some time now. Normally vacancies
causes rents to flatten or even go down, but it's
(25:20):
not happened yet. We'll find out why coming up following
the news at four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
We definitely need bands or to stay, but also stuet
Guard is on the European headquarters, so they have to
stay too.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I appreciate the call. You can choose one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't know why exactly do I need an American
European headquarters.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I've been to shoot Guard, it's I've been on base.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's great, but it's big and the war's over, so
why do I need it to be there? We already
we already have embassies in these places, and the embassies
are guarded by the United States Marines, so we have
a military press since to the degree that it's needed.
(26:02):
Russia is not invading Europe, so why are we pretending
they are? And even if Russia was, and NATO was necessary,
and you convinced me that we should continue to have
the North Atlantic Treaty organization and completely be taken advantage
(26:24):
of it by the European NATO members like we are.
Even if you can convince me of that we are.
The President says the United States was threatened by Iran
with nuclear capability. Why aren't our NATO friends helping?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Good? Are they so not buying it? Don't even try
selling it?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So what do you statistic?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
He do?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Then, mister Luke Pynrose just focused on America and the
United States based on all the illegals pouring in, the
drugs coming in. It's on portability, guess crisis crime.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, exactly like that. That's my suggestion. All right, we
got more scammers out there.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We're all we're doing is finding scam and I'm glad
that the Vice President, Jade Vance, has been made the
point person to go through all the agencies and find waste,
fraud and abuse. And it's amazing just how much fraud
is going on out there. We have a lot of
problems with illegal aliens in the country, and then we
have actual legal foreigners that are here on work visas.
(27:41):
They're called the H one B program. These are temporary
workers to fill a shortage of labor in an area
that's necessary. Traditionally it has been agriculture, but it's not
always agriculture.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Sometimes it's high tech.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So we have these legitimate visas where people that are
not Americans are in the country working in America legally,
and that program is being fraud.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
The Department of Labor says fraudsters have been abusing visa programs,
allowing human trafficking to thrive and undercutting American workers, fraudulent
applications for H one B visas those are supposed to
address real labor shortages.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, is anybody that is not an American legally
doing anything in the United States. It's as if nobody,
not a single foreigner, is following any of our rule.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Employers and labor brokers exploited foreign workers using coercive wage kickbacks,
paying them less than they would pay American workers.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Right, and so now we have the people that are
Americans applying for H ONEB visas from the State Department.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
To get legal foreigners.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Into the United States, and now they're undercutting American workers.
So they were not necessary labor. They were just cheaper labor,
which depresses our wages. It's a fight, man, everybody out
there's a crooked seams. If it's not illegals stealing our
social Security checks or taking the jobs, it's legals that
(29:16):
are fraud.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
They're committing fraud in the HMMB visa programs.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Among the top states for these visa applications are New York, California,
and Illinois.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Why am I not surprised that California is in the
top three.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm beginning to believe that between unemployment fraud, food stamp fraud,
illegals getting medical and now it's the H one B
visa program, which is legal foreign workers usually seasonal, usually
in agriculture, that every they're all this fraud in all
(29:53):
of those places that we are a way wealthier state
than we think we don't have. Probably there's probably so
much money. Like if you got all the people committing fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
At the at the at.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Add in Sacramento, at the unemployment part, and then you
get all the people that are committing fraud with snap
pretending that they can't work when they're just actually lazy,
and then you get all the illegals out of medical
which according to the California State Assembly Member Carl DeMaio,
is now up to thirteen billion, thirteen billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Giving free welfare to illegals.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And now you go through the agriculture community and find
all these people that are committing fraud in the HMB
VISA program.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
There's got to be billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If it's thirteen billion dollars just in medical to illegals,
imagine what we'll find. So I'm glad jd Vance is
Johnny on the spot. But man oh Man, is it
tough to swallow as a taxpayer who actually does things legally.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Real change requires real change.
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