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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Blue Penrose on News Radio six hundred cogo. We are
live in San Diego. Thank you for tuning in. Good
to have you along with us. Happy Tuesday. You just
heard there some more details coming out at the top
of the air News with Jack Cronin on this little
bit of a melee that took place on the fourth
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of July up in Orange County and Newport Beach. And
I bring it up not because I think we should
worry about what happens in Orange County here in San Diego,
but I know what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen, Is
there gonna be is gonna be a huge crackdown next year,
for sure, there will be twice amount of police, twice
amount of overtime. They will narrow the lanes going in
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and out, and they'll just make it horrible for Newport
Beach to become Lake Havasu. And so everybody's gonna move.
This happens all the time. They the young people are
connected in a way that is much better never before.
And like in an instant, it'll go somewhere else, either
in Orange County or maybe even in San Diego. And
(01:08):
I thought it was interesting that of the four hundred
and three arrests, half were people that lived in Arizona.
So these aren't locals. These aren't family members of rich
white people with beach houses on the peninsula. And apparently
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there weren't nine or nine ers like everyone thought. They
were people that literally were coming in from out of state,
many of whom airbmb'd on the peninsula up there. And
the same thing can be done here in San Diego,
like we are wide open to be the fourth of
July TikTok meet up four next fourth of July. People
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want the beach, they want southern California, they want to
go where there are tony houses right on the ocean.
We have all those things. So what are we doing
right now to prepare that that doesn't happen to us?
Or maybe we would welcome it, just handle it a
little better. Or maybe the San Diego chill would just
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befall a lot of people and they wouldn't get so riotous.
I don't know. I just think that that could have
easily had been us on Saturday, and the same thing
would have happened, and it would have been even more
crowded and even more of a traffic jam. But the
police out of Newport Beach said. The ages of everyone's
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sided ranged from are you ready for this? Thirteen to
thirty nine. That's arrests thirteen to thirty nine. That's not
a warning, that's not a police encounter. That's a let
me put you in handcuffs and put you in the
back of the square. So that tells me two things.
(03:03):
We have a lot of bold, very young teenagers. You
are just a teenager at thirteen. The word teen appears
in thirteen, not twelve. You just made it under the wire.
You're a teenager, and now you have an arrest record
and thirty nine. Honestly, there are thirty nine year old
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brown ass adults that got arrested on Saturday night at
a Fourth of July beach party that got too crazy.
What are you doing? That's that's advanced adolescence of I've
ever heard it thirty nine years old. I mean, I
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get it. You could be blown off steam too hard
and drink too much and find yourself sideways with the
law on the fourth of July and now you've been
you know, sided, but not thirty nine years old at
this party where a bunch of fifteen year old boys
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are running around Chason thirteen year old girls in bikini
like thirty nine. That's incredible. According to the Newport Beach
PD data, three hundred and sixteen of the four to
three were cited for misdemeanors. There were thirty seven arrests,
twenty five under the age of eighteen. Half came from Arizona.
(04:27):
All right, so what's going on here? I think that
a lot of analysis has been done on this, only
because this Newport Beach Fourth of July thing has become
a metaphor of why are young people who have really
all the benefits that they could possibly have. They're already
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at a great place, They're already they obviously have some
means to get there. They already have enough money to
get into a new town, get out of their town,
buy alcohol, and and maybe even stay somewhere. Maybe some
of them were in airbnbs. Why would they get so riotous?
Why can't they just be happy? Why can't they just
(05:09):
enjoy themselves? Why does it always seem to have to
get out of hand? And there's been a lot of
analysis of this, a lot of thought on this, And
what's really interesting is the boomer overview of what happened again,
not so much Newport Beach, but Newport Beach serving as
a metaphor of this happens that it happens at Coachella,
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it happens at a stage coach, it happens just at
at college parties these days, it happens at a lot
of gatherings where young people are and boomers are reading
into it really deeply. I don't know if they're accurate
or not. And also the people that live in Newport
Beach are reading into it really deeply, and I don't
know if they're accurate or not. But here's one boomer's
(05:51):
perspective that's making its way around the internet.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I think of when I saw these Newport Beach
kids like acting like complete dip on the beach and
there's like thousands of them. All I could think of
is that they are going to have to enter the workforce.
And the reason they're probably acting this way is because
they know they are already cooked before they even start.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They have no skills, they have no customer.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Service experience, they don't know how to talk to people,
they don't know how to create anything. So they are
there they are lashing out like feral children.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
How about that, So that is one that's being circulated around, like,
I'm not surprised these kids got out of hand. They
look at the world, they look at society, they look
at the job market, they look at their future. AI
is going to take their jobs. They're never going to
be able to say for down payment, They're going to
be shackled with college debt, and on and on and on.
(06:53):
And that's the reason they took watermelons from the pavilion's
display and started throwing it at each other. And it's interesting, right,
It is interesting in that I can see somebody over
the age of fifty looking at this and reaching that conclusion.
Now I don't agree with that. That's not what happened.
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It is not none of these people, at least in
the I mean, they're acres of video footage because everyone
has a cell phone, and that's all young people do.
My oldest son included, is hold out a cell phone
and record the world and then when he gets back
to the house at the end of the night, edits
it all down and then posts it that. They're all
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journalizing in real time everything that's going on, which number
one means, don't commit any offenses. Don't commit a crime,
don't say anything disparaging, don't slander, don't libel, and don't
use racially insensitive words, because you're on film all the
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time everywhere and it's forever. But number two, it it's
just the people that were there that I saw. They
were just being part of a crazy afternoon at the beach,
like they were not thinking about their future. They were
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not thinking about college. Clearly, nobody wants an arrest record
if their plan is to go to college. And if
you're in college, and a lot of these were college
kids I guess from Arizona that put money together to
rent an airbnb right there on the sand, I don't
think they want hav An a rest record, but nobody
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seemed to care. So I think that that Boomer's perspective
is well thought through, just completely inaccurate, and just completely
misses the mark of what these young people are all about.
Now here's the other perspective. The people that actually lived there.
They're mad. They're really mad because number one, they don't
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like to see their beaches and their town destroyed. Number Two,
they don't like these people, They would rather them not come.
And number three, they know that the next year, It'll
be like a police state in Newport Beach.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm going to be so blunt because of the ghetto
ass activities that have been in Newport Beach. We are
now going to see next year a more secure, minimum
confined prison in the area because of these parasites that
should be locked up.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In a cage. These people that.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Were doing the fireworks show, looting pavilions by the way,
throwing food everywhere. This is Los Angeles activities. This is
it for Orange County bottom two percent people of society
because all of our problems. I know you don't want
to hear it, but they do.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So this is going to be now the new discussion.
They're going to have it up in Newport Beach for sure.
I think a lot of coastal cities and beach towns
are going to have it. We have a lot of them,
starting in Ocean Side all the way down to the border.
And I think a lot of locals are going to
want their cities to revisit some of the regulations on
these airbnbs because that therein I think lies the biggest problem.
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If you own a home on the peninsula, you can
make an unbelievable amount of money on the fourth of
July weekend. Why wouldn't you go stay at your Palm
Springs house, rent it out, charge a cleaning fee, and
buy a car. I don't know if it's that much,
pay off your car, and everybody's doing it. And there's
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no code enforcement officer or team of code enforcement officers
that could possibly enforce code. And what I mean by
that is how many people should be in this house.
There's no way and there's no code enforcement officer in
San Diego that can possibly police code on the fourth
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of July weekend. So it's wide open. And there's one
guy that says he wants Rancho Santa Fe to be next.
I'll let you hear from him coming up next Petros
on News Radio six hundred COBO Live and Local. Let
me explain to you how quickly this is going to
change from Newport Beach and potentially to San Diego next
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fourth of July. Back in the day, we would find
out about spring break hotspots by watching MTV. Remember, mister Finndy,
you watch Empty every April right around Easter, it'd be
MTV spring Break and that have a couple of videos.
Then they go live to where they were hosting spring
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Break and for two weeks MTV. We'd be down there
and they'd be contests and shows and live appearances by
musicians and girls and bikinis and not wet T shirt contests,
but the closest thing that they could do for time
Warner and we would watch this in the afternoon. We
come home from school and we watch MTV and look
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and I never heard of Padre Island before. Now it's
a spring break hotspot. I'd never heard of Lake have
Asu before growing up in New York. Now look at it.
All the girls are there, there's boats, people on the ocean,
they're on the river, they're on jet ski. She's taken
off her top. Like all these places got exposed to
young people through MTV, and you had to wait a
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whole year, so you had a year to plan, like,
oh man, I am certainly going to Fort Lauderdale, I
am going to go to I'm going to that beach
because I saw an MTV that looks so good, and
literally college kids or high school kids would plan on
going to that place, depending on the corner of the
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country you lived. Now you will get a TikTok or
a snapchat because I was watching my son make decisions
on where he was going to spend his Fourth of July,
and it was all based on where the big meetup
was going to be. And I mean he was getting
like conflicting reports of all the cops came and already
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broke up, and it was all happening in real time.
And he was actually in Newport Beach or I think,
going that way for a while to meet with some
friends who he has that live in Newport Beach and
then decided against it because he said it was going
to be too crazy, and he decided to go to
another location, so he was not up there in the afternoon,
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which I was happy about. But that's how quickly these
things change. So what used to take young people a
year to plan now takes them the morning and they'll
all know where to go. They It was going on
in Oceanside too, there was meetups at the beach among
young people that are all connected. So the social media
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that's on their phone and these apps make it so
they can all all all of them, everybody that's between
thirteen and seventeen that wants to flaunt their stuff and
you know, be a peacock on the beach. In front
of the girls or in front of the guy. Can
everyone that's has access and means can all be together
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at a snap of a finger and it's called snapchat.
Here's a guy that went on social media. He said
that he wants the next TikTok invasion to be in
Rancho Santa Fe.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I just want to give a quick shout out to
all the kids that tried to destroy Newport Beach this
past holiday.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
We get good for you.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
As someone who spent a year of their life working
in Orange County and dealing with them as customers on
a daily basis, it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Warmed my heart.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I don't know if I'm overstepping my place, but
I do want to put in a suggestion for next year.
I don't know if you take requests, but next year
should really consider doing Rancho Santa Fe.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh boy, that's kind of inland. I don't know if
that will work, but yeah, that he's out. They're recommending.
So what do you say at Rancho Cfe. You're ready
to receive all these young people next year?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
They said a lot of them were teenagers, they were miners.
Are were they with their parents? You know? I blame
the parents for letting them go, trusting that they were
going to do, you know, have to just have a fun time.
Who bro who took them there? Right?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, a lot of them drove themselves. A lot of
them rented airbnbs. And when you're an adult and college
students are an adult. Now, some airbnbs and some vrbos
have regulations for people that are not yet twenty five.
I don't know how that works, but this ways around it.
(15:30):
Certainly you see that all the time in Coachella. And
then there are airbnb brokers that specialize in young people
to get around some of those regulations. But it's not
just that. Let's say, like a legitimate seven people airbnb'd
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a three bedroom house on the beach in San Diego.
Now they put out on you know, their texts, Hey,
we got the pad, the party pads here, come to
the party. Bad bring byob, but bring your attitude and
we're gonna write and just invite people over, Like why
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wouldn't you? Just because only seven people under the regulation
can sleep there, doesn't mean you can't host a party.
And really, if they spend the night, who's gonna know.
So you can only take these airbnb regulations so far
and they are really where it all starts. I don't
agree with what you're saying. It's not the Airbnb's that
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other problem. It's the people.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Just like the knife is not the problem, it's the
person who uses it to stab somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The people that cause these problems need to be ald accountable. Yeah,
I agree with you. I'm not saying the airbnb is
the problem, but it is the source. If if the
people that own the houses lived in these houses, then
they wouldn't be party pads for the Fourth of July weekend.
I mean, I think we can agree on that the
(17:05):
airbnb model isn't the problem, but there are unintended consequences
of allowing it to be. Notice that there are airbnb's
all up and down the shoreline from San Diego all
the way to Santa Barbara. Why do you think that
is because people can make extra money renting out their
beach front house on the Fourth of July. So it's
(17:30):
not the problem, but it's where the problem starts. Certainly,
Penrose on news Radio six hundred.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Coco you loo, I grew up in Orange County, spend
a lot of time down Newport Beach and Balboa. The
cops down there, there's no public drinking. If you took
one foot off of your patio with the beer, they
would bust you for drinking in public. But the thing
is the kids nowadays, they have absolutely no respect for
rules and regulations. Man, They're just do whatever they want
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and don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, the cops are no nonsense in Orange County because
the DA in Orange County is no nonsense. DA in
San Diego no nonsense as well. But the cops look,
four hundred and three arrests, three hundred and sixteen misdemeanors,
thirty seven people taken in So yeah, they got down
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to business. A lot of zip ties, a lot of
have a seat on the ground and wait for the
bus to come, and they did. They put them in
city buses and took them to jail and booked them.
So the cops are no nonsense. Having said that, the
idea that there's no public drinking in San Diego, Orange
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or Los Angeles County is absurd. I have never been
to the beach without alcohol, and I have lived in
California since nineteen ninety I've never gone to the beach
without alcohol. And if I'm not on the sand, I'm
drinking on the you know, wherever the taco place is.
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So everybody's drinking. I don't know why anybody pretends they're
not teenagers are all going to go drinking. You wouldn't
go to a party unless you already arranged to have
alcohol on you or you knew that you were meeting
up with people that had alcohol at the house. You
don't leave the house without a plan. So I come
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on now, I mean, we're just talking with each other here.
Let's talk about the real world, all right. So here
is some Newport locals very upset about it, throwing fireworks
in people's faces, that kind of stuff. That is not
the Newport that everybody comes to sit.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think the rest of my family wants to do
go back to our end date at the end of July.
I think they would prefer having less of a crowd,
especially coming onto our property.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So these are people that live there and you know,
they just didn't want the impact. And that's going to
be a difficult balance, right because the businesses and the
hotels and the people that benefit on something like a
fourth of July beach weekend or a fourth of July holiday,
which is always a beach time in San Diego, They're
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going to be impacted if you have to step up
law enforcement presence so that it looks like a police state.
And if you think for a second, if you take
a sip of a can of you know, some kind
of alcoholic beverage, you're gonna wind up with a ticket.
Then forget it. I'm not going to go there, go
to Palm Springs instead. So you can't drive the business
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out of town, but you got to police it a
little bit better. And that becomes a real challenge because
at the end of the day, college students are adults.
When they say, half of the arrests were people from
the state of Arizona, so these aren't teenagers. Now they
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can connect with teenagers, and you know, that becomes a
much bigger party, But people that are driving from Arizona
are not teenagers. These are adults. And I think that
we just kind of have to realize that we just
treat vacation homes a little bit rougher than we would
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treat our own home, and that that's just kind of
the human condition. Not me. I'm a great guest, but
I've had people stay at my big beer cabin, and
sometimes some guests can be a little rough on it.
And it stands to reason, right you've been to Vegas,
you treat that Vegas hotel room a little bit rougher
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than you do your own house. You don't always use
a coaster, and certainly when you were in your late
teens and early twenties, you may not have trashed the
hotel room, but you were rougher on the hotel room
than you were on your own house. So it's going
to be the same attitude with a VRBO and an
Airbnb and people that are in that business. And I'm
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one of them. I'm not really in that business, Like
I didn't buy my cabin in Big Bear to be
a VRBO guy. But since I'm not there all the time,
I let some people use it, and we're very just discriminating.
We're getting to a point now where we have enough
people that are regulars that come to year after year
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that I might just have a private Rollodex and just
go that route and then you can really just weed
out people. And there are a lot of people with
really really nice properties here in San Diego that have
done just that. They only rented out fourth of July, Thanksgiving,
you know, Christmas New Year's Spring Break, super Bowl Week,
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that kind of thing, and they know the people that
are coming year after year after year for those weeks,
and they know that they're good people. But not everybody.
Some people just have the property and it's a choice
piece of real estate. And you can make bad renting
it out to a bunch of drunken frack guys from ASU.
(23:06):
You know, and you do.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They could be served alcohol by the supposedly twenty one
year old college students. College students could be only nineteen
or twenty. They shouldn't even be drinking. So there's a
lot of things that are unsupervised. Yeah, I do blame
the airbnbs, and I do blame the parents. They should
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if their kids are still minors.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, the kids are still mine. I mean a lot
of the rest ranges from thirteen to thirty nine, so
you can certainly blame the parents. I am a parent
of a seventeen year old bat drives and works, so
has his own money and was planning to be part
of it, but decided against it when he saw how
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big it was getting, and went to another huge takeover
of a beach that he learned about on Snapchat and
TikTok and sent me photos. Had a good time there.
There was no melee there because I guess nobody got
out of hand, so some of it. And I was
thinking about, like, why, right, why do that? Like why
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ruin a good thing? When the cops start flashing those lights,
the party's over. If you start seeing police on horseback,
you pushed it too far. Everybody was having fun, and
then people just started throwing very large fireworks just into
the crowd. Why do that? Obviously that's going to cause
the cops to come. Once you start seeing bang and
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sparkle on the sand, the cops are going to come.
And if it's too a lot, if it gets and
it becomes more of that, then the cops are going
to sweep the beach and then they're just going to
broom you out of town. So why do that? There's
been a lot of discussion about that too on social media,
particularly from local people that live in Newport Beach, saying
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why do people come to our town and trash it?
We live here, We live like this, by the way,
We wouln party this hard every weekend, but it's a
party every weekend in San Diego in the beach communities.
It's a party every weekend in Orange County, in Huntington Beach,
and in Newport Beach and in Laguna Beach, Oceanside. It's
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a party because it's summertime, kids are out of school,
and it's great. But it doesn't get trashed. So why
do people come from out of town? Why would you
drive all this way from Los Angeles County or Lancaster, Palmdale,
or Norco or Temecula or Arizona for that matter. Why
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would you drive all that way and then trash it?
What kinds of people do this? And that's what gave
rise to this girl who's really going viral. She's the
voice of Newport Beach.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Right now, I'm gonna be so blunt because of the
ghetto ASSECTI these that have been in Newport Beach. We
are now going to see next year a more secure,
minimum confined prison in the area because of these parasites
that should be locked up.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In a cage.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
These people that were doing the fireworks show, looting pavilions
by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Throwing food everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
This is Los Angeles activities. This is it for Orange County.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I love that this is Los Angeles. Well. I love
how the hierarchy of ghetto. Right, we all know that's
activity we'd expect to see in La This isn't what
we want to see in Orange County, and we didn't
see anything like it in San Diego. There's a guy
who says that San Diego, specifically La Joya, is dangerous,
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not because of crime or bad actors, but because it's
so chill that you might just forget that you're employed
and lose your job. Wait to hear from this guy.
I'll share him with you next. Lout Panroe on news
radio six hundred Hugo coming up following the News at four,
(27:03):
what's going on in Cheula Vista. A new study out
by wallet hub says that Cheula Vista has the second
in the nation highest credit card debt, second highest in
the nation. Wow, you all and Cheula Vista are swiping
that card. I'll tell you what the average credit card
(27:25):
debt is per household, and we'll talk about why why.
It's a fair question. Why are you racking up the
debt in Cheula Vista? What are they doing differently there
than any other area of San Diego? And how can
that be? And there's some theories out there ABC ten
News is Danny Miskel talk to a financial guy, and
(27:47):
there's actually some data that supports why that would be.
All right, here's a guy who says he lives in
La Joya. He's a transplant from New York City, and
he says La Joya is actually a danger place to live.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
La Jolla, California has to be one of the most
dangerous places in America. Not because of the crime, not
because of sketchy people, homeless, all that kind of stuff,
but because it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Because it's so nice. Yeah, no sketchy people in La Joya.
Some beautiful houses right there. But because it's so nice,
it's so nice that you can get into trouble. But
because it's so nice.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
I mean, you wake up to something like this in
the morning and you aren't getting done. It's the middle
of the day on a Monday. And look at how
many people are at the beach right now.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's nothing.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It'll be you know, three times that in about an hour.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That is true. That and that's not just in the summertime.
You can see that a lot. And it's not just
La Joya. I see it at the gym. I don't
have to be on the radio until three, so I
can be at the gym sometimes at eleven twelve o'clock,
and it's great, right, you don't want to be at
the gym early in the morning, and you certainly don't
want to be at the gym at five point thirty
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because most people work nine to five ish days. I know,
post COVID it's not so much like that, but nobody's
at the gym in the middle of the day except
retired people. Not so in San Diego. There's like, you know,
working aged people working out and they're not rushing to
get back to the office. It's not like it's their
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lunch hour. So there's just something very unique about where
we live that people have very flexible hours or perhaps
not working at all all.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Right, at the beach right now, that's nothing. It'll be
you know, three times in about an hour. I love
San Diego. But even though this isn't necessarily a bad thing,
they're just hanging out. They're waking up, they're going to work,
they're getting off, they're going.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
To the beach. They're just hanging out. And that's pretty dangerous.
Just hanging out can be just a little bit dangerous.
I accept that critique. We tend to hang out. We're
pretty chill. Has it been thus though, right? So uh yeah,
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take that hustle and bustle back with you in New
York City.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Pal amazing place to live, but if you're looking for hustle.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It's not going to be here. Yeah. So the way
you can tell if somebody belongs, if somebody that is
not born and raised in California, if they belong in California,
or if they actually really if they need to just
go back home eventually. And that is when somebody in
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San Diego refers to San Diego is out here. When
somebody says, yeah, you look at La Joya. Man, the
people out here, they just they're so chilled. They just
go to the beach. Whenever you hear someone refer to
where we are right now, San Diego as out here.
You know they're from the East Coast. They also talk
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about the East Coast as back home. They could be
living here thirty years and they'll still say, yeah, I've
been living out here for thirty years and i haven't
been back home in a long time. It's just a thing,
it's a tick. It's something that's burned into the brain
of people that are from the East Coast that have
(31:17):
not yet fully embraced that they are a Californian, or
just secretly want to go home still homesick. Now, that
can be a good or a bad thing. Sometimes they
are from the East Coast and they just have this
East Coast mentality that is kind of a superiority complex.
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And then there are other people, And for a while
I was in this category. You are so embarrassed with
how much you love San Diego and you just you
can't accept that. It's like being on vacation every day
of your life that you feel guilty a little bit.
See those of you that are born and raised, you
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don't have that. But those of us that have chosen
to be here and have fallen in love with it
from the day we got here and love it every
day and stand beside her and guide her like we do,
many of us have a little bit of guilt. We're like,
I just can't believe I'm here and I've been here
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for thirty years and it's just as gorgeous as it
was the day I got here, and I feel the
same way about it. So sometimes it's a little bit
of that. It's all psychological Lou Penrose on news radio
six hundred cogo and on the iHeartRadio app.
Blue Penrose on News Radio six hundred cogo. We are
live in San Diego. Thank you for tuning in. Good
to have you along with us. Happy Tuesday. You just
heard there some more details coming out at the top
of the air News with Jack Cronin on this little
bit of a melee that took place on the fourth
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of July up in Orange County and Newport Beach. And
I bring it up not because I think we should
worry about what happens in Orange County here in San Diego,
but I know what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen, Is
there gonna be is gonna be a huge crackdown next year,
for sure, there will be twice amount of police, twice
amount of overtime. They will narrow the lanes going in
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and out, and they'll just make it horrible for Newport
Beach to become Lake Havasu. And so everybody's gonna move.
This happens all the time. They the young people are
connected in a way that is much better never before.
And like in an instant, it'll go somewhere else, either
in Orange County or maybe even in San Diego. And
(01:08):
I thought it was interesting that of the four hundred
and three arrests, half were people that lived in Arizona.
So these aren't locals. These aren't family members of rich
white people with beach houses on the peninsula. And apparently
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there weren't nine or nine ers like everyone thought. They
were people that literally were coming in from out of state,
many of whom airbmb'd on the peninsula up there. And
the same thing can be done here in San Diego,
like we are wide open to be the fourth of
July TikTok meet up four next fourth of July. People
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want the beach, they want southern California, they want to
go where there are tony houses right on the ocean.
We have all those things. So what are we doing
right now to prepare that that doesn't happen to us?
Or maybe we would welcome it, just handle it a
little better. Or maybe the San Diego chill would just
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befall a lot of people and they wouldn't get so riotous.
I don't know. I just think that that could have
easily had been us on Saturday, and the same thing
would have happened, and it would have been even more
crowded and even more of a traffic jam. But the
police out of Newport Beach said. The ages of everyone's
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sided ranged from are you ready for this? Thirteen to
thirty nine. That's arrests thirteen to thirty nine. That's not
a warning, that's not a police encounter. That's a let
me put you in handcuffs and put you in the
back of the square. So that tells me two things.
(03:03):
We have a lot of bold, very young teenagers. You
are just a teenager at thirteen. The word teen appears
in thirteen, not twelve. You just made it under the wire.
You're a teenager, and now you have an arrest record
and thirty nine. Honestly, there are thirty nine year old
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brown ass adults that got arrested on Saturday night at
a Fourth of July beach party that got too crazy.
What are you doing? That's that's advanced adolescence of I've
ever heard it thirty nine years old. I mean, I
(03:44):
get it. You could be blown off steam too hard
and drink too much and find yourself sideways with the
law on the fourth of July and now you've been
you know, sided, but not thirty nine years old at
this party where a bunch of fifteen year old boys
(04:06):
are running around Chason thirteen year old girls in bikini
like thirty nine. That's incredible. According to the Newport Beach
PD data, three hundred and sixteen of the four to
three were cited for misdemeanors. There were thirty seven arrests,
twenty five under the age of eighteen. Half came from Arizona.
(04:27):
All right, so what's going on here? I think that
a lot of analysis has been done on this, only
because this Newport Beach Fourth of July thing has become
a metaphor of why are young people who have really
all the benefits that they could possibly have. They're already
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at a great place, They're already they obviously have some
means to get there. They already have enough money to
get into a new town, get out of their town,
buy alcohol, and and maybe even stay somewhere. Maybe some
of them were in airbnbs. Why would they get so riotous?
Why can't they just be happy? Why can't they just
(05:09):
enjoy themselves? Why does it always seem to have to
get out of hand? And there's been a lot of
analysis of this, a lot of thought on this, And
what's really interesting is the boomer overview of what happened again,
not so much Newport Beach, but Newport Beach serving as
a metaphor of this happens that it happens at Coachella,
(05:30):
it happens at a stage coach, it happens just at
at college parties these days, it happens at a lot
of gatherings where young people are and boomers are reading
into it really deeply. I don't know if they're accurate
or not. And also the people that live in Newport
Beach are reading into it really deeply, and I don't
know if they're accurate or not. But here's one boomer's
(05:51):
perspective that's making its way around the internet.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I think of when I saw these Newport Beach
kids like acting like complete dip on the beach and
there's like thousands of them. All I could think of
is that they are going to have to enter the workforce.
And the reason they're probably acting this way is because
they know they are already cooked before they even start.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They have no skills, they have no customer.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Service experience, they don't know how to talk to people,
they don't know how to create anything. So they are
there they are lashing out like feral children.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
How about that, So that is one that's being circulated around, like,
I'm not surprised these kids got out of hand. They
look at the world, they look at society, they look
at the job market, they look at their future. AI
is going to take their jobs. They're never going to
be able to say for down payment, They're going to
be shackled with college debt, and on and on and on.
(06:53):
And that's the reason they took watermelons from the pavilion's
display and started throwing it at each other. And it's interesting, right,
It is interesting in that I can see somebody over
the age of fifty looking at this and reaching that conclusion.
Now I don't agree with that. That's not what happened.
(07:14):
It is not none of these people, at least in
the I mean, they're acres of video footage because everyone
has a cell phone, and that's all young people do.
My oldest son included, is hold out a cell phone
and record the world and then when he gets back
to the house at the end of the night, edits
it all down and then posts it that. They're all
(07:36):
journalizing in real time everything that's going on, which number
one means, don't commit any offenses. Don't commit a crime,
don't say anything disparaging, don't slander, don't libel, and don't
use racially insensitive words, because you're on film all the
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time everywhere and it's forever. But number two, it it's
just the people that were there that I saw. They
were just being part of a crazy afternoon at the beach,
like they were not thinking about their future. They were
(08:19):
not thinking about college. Clearly, nobody wants an arrest record
if their plan is to go to college. And if
you're in college, and a lot of these were college
kids I guess from Arizona that put money together to
rent an airbnb right there on the sand, I don't
think they want hav An a rest record, but nobody
(08:40):
seemed to care. So I think that that Boomer's perspective
is well thought through, just completely inaccurate, and just completely
misses the mark of what these young people are all about.
Now here's the other perspective. The people that actually lived there.
They're mad. They're really mad because number one, they don't
(09:02):
like to see their beaches and their town destroyed. Number Two,
they don't like these people, They would rather them not come.
And number three, they know that the next year, It'll
be like a police state in Newport Beach.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm going to be so blunt because of the ghetto
ass activities that have been in Newport Beach. We are
now going to see next year a more secure, minimum
confined prison in the area because of these parasites that
should be locked up.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In a cage. These people that.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Were doing the fireworks show, looting pavilions by the way,
throwing food everywhere. This is Los Angeles activities. This is
it for Orange County bottom two percent people of society
because all of our problems. I know you don't want
to hear it, but they do.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So this is going to be now the new discussion.
They're going to have it up in Newport Beach for sure.
I think a lot of coastal cities and beach towns
are going to have it. We have a lot of them,
starting in Ocean Side all the way down to the border.
And I think a lot of locals are going to
want their cities to revisit some of the regulations on
these airbnbs because that therein I think lies the biggest problem.
(10:09):
If you own a home on the peninsula, you can
make an unbelievable amount of money on the fourth of
July weekend. Why wouldn't you go stay at your Palm
Springs house, rent it out, charge a cleaning fee, and
buy a car. I don't know if it's that much,
pay off your car, and everybody's doing it. And there's
(10:31):
no code enforcement officer or team of code enforcement officers
that could possibly enforce code. And what I mean by
that is how many people should be in this house.
There's no way and there's no code enforcement officer in
San Diego that can possibly police code on the fourth
(10:54):
of July weekend. So it's wide open. And there's one
guy that says he wants Rancho Santa Fe to be next.
I'll let you hear from him coming up next Petros
on News Radio six hundred COBO Live and Local. Let
me explain to you how quickly this is going to
change from Newport Beach and potentially to San Diego next
(11:15):
fourth of July. Back in the day, we would find
out about spring break hotspots by watching MTV. Remember, mister Finndy,
you watch Empty every April right around Easter, it'd be
MTV spring Break and that have a couple of videos.
Then they go live to where they were hosting spring
(11:35):
Break and for two weeks MTV. We'd be down there
and they'd be contests and shows and live appearances by
musicians and girls and bikinis and not wet T shirt contests,
but the closest thing that they could do for time
Warner and we would watch this in the afternoon. We
come home from school and we watch MTV and look
(11:56):
and I never heard of Padre Island before. Now it's
a spring break hotspot. I'd never heard of Lake have
Asu before growing up in New York. Now look at it.
All the girls are there, there's boats, people on the ocean,
they're on the river, they're on jet ski. She's taken
off her top. Like all these places got exposed to
young people through MTV, and you had to wait a
(12:18):
whole year, so you had a year to plan, like,
oh man, I am certainly going to Fort Lauderdale, I
am going to go to I'm going to that beach
because I saw an MTV that looks so good, and
literally college kids or high school kids would plan on
going to that place, depending on the corner of the
(12:39):
country you lived. Now you will get a TikTok or
a snapchat because I was watching my son make decisions
on where he was going to spend his Fourth of July,
and it was all based on where the big meetup
was going to be. And I mean he was getting
like conflicting reports of all the cops came and already
(13:01):
broke up, and it was all happening in real time.
And he was actually in Newport Beach or I think,
going that way for a while to meet with some
friends who he has that live in Newport Beach and
then decided against it because he said it was going
to be too crazy, and he decided to go to
another location, so he was not up there in the afternoon,
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which I was happy about. But that's how quickly these
things change. So what used to take young people a
year to plan now takes them the morning and they'll
all know where to go. They It was going on
in Oceanside too, there was meetups at the beach among
young people that are all connected. So the social media
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that's on their phone and these apps make it so
they can all all all of them, everybody that's between
thirteen and seventeen that wants to flaunt their stuff and
you know, be a peacock on the beach. In front
of the girls or in front of the guy. Can
everyone that's has access and means can all be together
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at a snap of a finger and it's called snapchat.
Here's a guy that went on social media. He said
that he wants the next TikTok invasion to be in
Rancho Santa Fe.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I just want to give a quick shout out to
all the kids that tried to destroy Newport Beach this
past holiday.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
We get good for you.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
As someone who spent a year of their life working
in Orange County and dealing with them as customers on
a daily basis, it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Warmed my heart.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I don't know if I'm overstepping my place, but
I do want to put in a suggestion for next year.
I don't know if you take requests, but next year
should really consider doing Rancho Santa Fe.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh boy, that's kind of inland. I don't know if
that will work, but yeah, that he's out. They're recommending.
So what do you say at Rancho Cfe. You're ready
to receive all these young people next year?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
They said a lot of them were teenagers, they were miners.
Are were they with their parents? You know? I blame
the parents for letting them go, trusting that they were
going to do, you know, have to just have a fun time.
Who bro who took them there? Right?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, a lot of them drove themselves. A lot of
them rented airbnbs. And when you're an adult and college
students are an adult. Now, some airbnbs and some vrbos
have regulations for people that are not yet twenty five.
I don't know how that works, but this ways around it.
(15:30):
Certainly you see that all the time in Coachella. And
then there are airbnb brokers that specialize in young people
to get around some of those regulations. But it's not
just that. Let's say, like a legitimate seven people airbnb'd
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a three bedroom house on the beach in San Diego.
Now they put out on you know, their texts, Hey,
we got the pad, the party pads here, come to
the party. Bad bring byob, but bring your attitude and
we're gonna write and just invite people over, Like why
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wouldn't you? Just because only seven people under the regulation
can sleep there, doesn't mean you can't host a party.
And really, if they spend the night, who's gonna know.
So you can only take these airbnb regulations so far
and they are really where it all starts. I don't
agree with what you're saying. It's not the Airbnb's that
(16:34):
other problem. It's the people.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Just like the knife is not the problem, it's the
person who uses it to stab somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The people that cause these problems need to be ald accountable. Yeah,
I agree with you. I'm not saying the airbnb is
the problem, but it is the source. If if the
people that own the houses lived in these houses, then
they wouldn't be party pads for the Fourth of July weekend.
I mean, I think we can agree on that the
(17:05):
airbnb model isn't the problem, but there are unintended consequences
of allowing it to be. Notice that there are airbnb's
all up and down the shoreline from San Diego all
the way to Santa Barbara. Why do you think that
is because people can make extra money renting out their
beach front house on the Fourth of July. So it's
(17:30):
not the problem, but it's where the problem starts. Certainly,
Penrose on news Radio six hundred.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Coco you loo, I grew up in Orange County, spend
a lot of time down Newport Beach and Balboa. The
cops down there, there's no public drinking. If you took
one foot off of your patio with the beer, they
would bust you for drinking in public. But the thing
is the kids nowadays, they have absolutely no respect for
rules and regulations. Man, They're just do whatever they want
(18:00):
and don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, the cops are no nonsense in Orange County because
the DA in Orange County is no nonsense. DA in
San Diego no nonsense as well. But the cops look,
four hundred and three arrests, three hundred and sixteen misdemeanors,
thirty seven people taken in So yeah, they got down
(18:22):
to business. A lot of zip ties, a lot of
have a seat on the ground and wait for the
bus to come, and they did. They put them in
city buses and took them to jail and booked them.
So the cops are no nonsense. Having said that, the
idea that there's no public drinking in San Diego, Orange
(18:43):
or Los Angeles County is absurd. I have never been
to the beach without alcohol, and I have lived in
California since nineteen ninety I've never gone to the beach
without alcohol. And if I'm not on the sand, I'm
drinking on the you know, wherever the taco place is.
(19:05):
So everybody's drinking. I don't know why anybody pretends they're
not teenagers are all going to go drinking. You wouldn't
go to a party unless you already arranged to have
alcohol on you or you knew that you were meeting
up with people that had alcohol at the house. You
don't leave the house without a plan. So I come
(19:30):
on now, I mean, we're just talking with each other here.
Let's talk about the real world, all right. So here
is some Newport locals very upset about it, throwing fireworks
in people's faces, that kind of stuff. That is not
the Newport that everybody comes to sit.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think the rest of my family wants to do
go back to our end date at the end of July.
I think they would prefer having less of a crowd,
especially coming onto our property.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So these are people that live there and you know,
they just didn't want the impact. And that's going to
be a difficult balance, right because the businesses and the
hotels and the people that benefit on something like a
fourth of July beach weekend or a fourth of July holiday,
which is always a beach time in San Diego, They're
(20:15):
going to be impacted if you have to step up
law enforcement presence so that it looks like a police state.
And if you think for a second, if you take
a sip of a can of you know, some kind
of alcoholic beverage, you're gonna wind up with a ticket.
Then forget it. I'm not going to go there, go
to Palm Springs instead. So you can't drive the business
(20:35):
out of town, but you got to police it a
little bit better. And that becomes a real challenge because
at the end of the day, college students are adults.
When they say, half of the arrests were people from
the state of Arizona, so these aren't teenagers. Now they
(20:57):
can connect with teenagers, and you know, that becomes a
much bigger party, But people that are driving from Arizona
are not teenagers. These are adults. And I think that
we just kind of have to realize that we just
treat vacation homes a little bit rougher than we would
(21:19):
treat our own home, and that that's just kind of
the human condition. Not me. I'm a great guest, but
I've had people stay at my big beer cabin, and
sometimes some guests can be a little rough on it.
And it stands to reason, right you've been to Vegas,
you treat that Vegas hotel room a little bit rougher
(21:41):
than you do your own house. You don't always use
a coaster, and certainly when you were in your late
teens and early twenties, you may not have trashed the
hotel room, but you were rougher on the hotel room
than you were on your own house. So it's going
to be the same attitude with a VRBO and an
Airbnb and people that are in that business. And I'm
(22:01):
one of them. I'm not really in that business, Like
I didn't buy my cabin in Big Bear to be
a VRBO guy. But since I'm not there all the time,
I let some people use it, and we're very just discriminating.
We're getting to a point now where we have enough
people that are regulars that come to year after year
(22:23):
that I might just have a private Rollodex and just
go that route and then you can really just weed
out people. And there are a lot of people with
really really nice properties here in San Diego that have
done just that. They only rented out fourth of July, Thanksgiving,
you know, Christmas New Year's Spring Break, super Bowl Week,
(22:45):
that kind of thing, and they know the people that
are coming year after year after year for those weeks,
and they know that they're good people. But not everybody.
Some people just have the property and it's a choice
piece of real estate. And you can make bad renting
it out to a bunch of drunken frack guys from ASU.
(23:06):
You know, and you do.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They could be served alcohol by the supposedly twenty one
year old college students. College students could be only nineteen
or twenty. They shouldn't even be drinking. So there's a
lot of things that are unsupervised. Yeah, I do blame
the airbnbs, and I do blame the parents. They should
(23:27):
if their kids are still minors.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, the kids are still mine. I mean a lot
of the rest ranges from thirteen to thirty nine, so
you can certainly blame the parents. I am a parent
of a seventeen year old bat drives and works, so
has his own money and was planning to be part
of it, but decided against it when he saw how
(23:51):
big it was getting, and went to another huge takeover
of a beach that he learned about on Snapchat and
TikTok and sent me photos. Had a good time there.
There was no melee there because I guess nobody got
out of hand, so some of it. And I was
thinking about, like, why, right, why do that? Like why
(24:12):
ruin a good thing? When the cops start flashing those lights,
the party's over. If you start seeing police on horseback,
you pushed it too far. Everybody was having fun, and
then people just started throwing very large fireworks just into
the crowd. Why do that? Obviously that's going to cause
the cops to come. Once you start seeing bang and
(24:35):
sparkle on the sand, the cops are going to come.
And if it's too a lot, if it gets and
it becomes more of that, then the cops are going
to sweep the beach and then they're just going to
broom you out of town. So why do that? There's
been a lot of discussion about that too on social media,
particularly from local people that live in Newport Beach, saying
(24:58):
why do people come to our town and trash it?
We live here, We live like this, by the way,
We wouln party this hard every weekend, but it's a
party every weekend in San Diego in the beach communities.
It's a party every weekend in Orange County, in Huntington Beach,
and in Newport Beach and in Laguna Beach, Oceanside. It's
(25:19):
a party because it's summertime, kids are out of school,
and it's great. But it doesn't get trashed. So why
do people come from out of town? Why would you
drive all this way from Los Angeles County or Lancaster, Palmdale,
or Norco or Temecula or Arizona for that matter. Why
(25:42):
would you drive all that way and then trash it?
What kinds of people do this? And that's what gave
rise to this girl who's really going viral. She's the
voice of Newport Beach.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Right now, I'm gonna be so blunt because of the
ghetto ASSECTI these that have been in Newport Beach. We
are now going to see next year a more secure,
minimum confined prison in the area because of these parasites
that should be locked up.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In a cage.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
These people that were doing the fireworks show, looting pavilions
by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Throwing food everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
This is Los Angeles activities. This is it for Orange County.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I love that this is Los Angeles. Well. I love
how the hierarchy of ghetto. Right, we all know that's
activity we'd expect to see in La This isn't what
we want to see in Orange County, and we didn't
see anything like it in San Diego. There's a guy
who says that San Diego, specifically La Joya, is dangerous,
(26:42):
not because of crime or bad actors, but because it's
so chill that you might just forget that you're employed
and lose your job. Wait to hear from this guy.
I'll share him with you next. Lout Panroe on news
radio six hundred Hugo coming up following the News at four,
(27:03):
what's going on in Cheula Vista. A new study out
by wallet hub says that Cheula Vista has the second
in the nation highest credit card debt, second highest in
the nation. Wow, you all and Cheula Vista are swiping
that card. I'll tell you what the average credit card
(27:25):
debt is per household, and we'll talk about why why.
It's a fair question. Why are you racking up the
debt in Cheula Vista? What are they doing differently there
than any other area of San Diego? And how can
that be? And there's some theories out there ABC ten
News is Danny Miskel talk to a financial guy, and
(27:47):
there's actually some data that supports why that would be.
All right, here's a guy who says he lives in
La Joya. He's a transplant from New York City, and
he says La Joya is actually a danger place to live.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
La Jolla, California has to be one of the most
dangerous places in America. Not because of the crime, not
because of sketchy people, homeless, all that kind of stuff,
but because it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Because it's so nice. Yeah, no sketchy people in La Joya.
Some beautiful houses right there. But because it's so nice,
it's so nice that you can get into trouble. But
because it's so nice.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
I mean, you wake up to something like this in
the morning and you aren't getting done. It's the middle
of the day on a Monday. And look at how
many people are at the beach right now.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's nothing.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It'll be you know, three times that in about an hour.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That is true. That and that's not just in the summertime.
You can see that a lot. And it's not just
La Joya. I see it at the gym. I don't
have to be on the radio until three, so I
can be at the gym sometimes at eleven twelve o'clock,
and it's great, right, you don't want to be at
the gym early in the morning, and you certainly don't
want to be at the gym at five point thirty
(28:59):
because most people work nine to five ish days. I know,
post COVID it's not so much like that, but nobody's
at the gym in the middle of the day except
retired people. Not so in San Diego. There's like, you know,
working aged people working out and they're not rushing to
get back to the office. It's not like it's their
(29:21):
lunch hour. So there's just something very unique about where
we live that people have very flexible hours or perhaps
not working at all all.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Right, at the beach right now, that's nothing. It'll be
you know, three times in about an hour. I love
San Diego. But even though this isn't necessarily a bad thing,
they're just hanging out. They're waking up, they're going to work,
they're getting off, they're going.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
To the beach. They're just hanging out. And that's pretty dangerous.
Just hanging out can be just a little bit dangerous.
I accept that critique. We tend to hang out. We're
pretty chill. Has it been thus though, right? So uh yeah,
(30:07):
take that hustle and bustle back with you in New
York City.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Pal amazing place to live, but if you're looking for hustle.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It's not going to be here. Yeah. So the way
you can tell if somebody belongs, if somebody that is
not born and raised in California, if they belong in California,
or if they actually really if they need to just
go back home eventually. And that is when somebody in
(30:34):
San Diego refers to San Diego is out here. When
somebody says, yeah, you look at La Joya. Man, the
people out here, they just they're so chilled. They just
go to the beach. Whenever you hear someone refer to
where we are right now, San Diego as out here.
You know they're from the East Coast. They also talk
(30:56):
about the East Coast as back home. They could be
living here thirty years and they'll still say, yeah, I've
been living out here for thirty years and i haven't
been back home in a long time. It's just a thing,
it's a tick. It's something that's burned into the brain
of people that are from the East Coast that have
(31:17):
not yet fully embraced that they are a Californian, or
just secretly want to go home still homesick. Now, that
can be a good or a bad thing. Sometimes they
are from the East Coast and they just have this
East Coast mentality that is kind of a superiority complex.
(31:40):
And then there are other people, And for a while
I was in this category. You are so embarrassed with
how much you love San Diego and you just you
can't accept that. It's like being on vacation every day
of your life that you feel guilty a little bit.
See those of you that are born and raised, you
(32:01):
don't have that. But those of us that have chosen
to be here and have fallen in love with it
from the day we got here and love it every
day and stand beside her and guide her like we do,
many of us have a little bit of guilt. We're like,
I just can't believe I'm here and I've been here
(32:21):
for thirty years and it's just as gorgeous as it
was the day I got here, and I feel the
same way about it. So sometimes it's a little bit
of that. It's all psychological Lou Penrose on news radio
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