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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And good morning, Larry Menti here co hosting with Laura
Kerrn today former NASA county executive now political commentator.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome, Good morning, Larry, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Let's get to the Big three and then we can
talk about it. We now have seen the face of
the assassin who killed United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson on
the streets of New York this week, and we know
what those words written on the shellcasings now mean.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Deny delay, depose, variations of the maximum deny delay defend,
which is actually the name of a book. These are
sayings and you can find them all over the internet
and read it and other postings about insurance company practices
of trying to find ways out of paying on claims
that they are disputing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, so it looks like he or someone in his
family was denied coverage. That killer. Tonight's still on the loose.
Another day of deliberations in the Daniel Penny manslaughter trial,
and as it drags on, more and more people are
predicting the outcome. Any quick verdict is out the window.
So we're trending in the direction of a possibility of
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a hang jury. Yep, and Pete Hegsith will not go
quietly into the night. He is fighting in the halls
of Congress, surrounded by reporters, and he had this message
for them, and I'm proud of what I fought for.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I'm not going to back down from them one bit.
I will answer all of these Senators' questions, but this
will not be a process tried in the media.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't answer to anyone in this group. The nominee
for the Secretary of Defense spent the day meeting with
senators trying to shore up support for confirmation, while President
elect Trump is reportedly looking for a replacement nominee just
in case hag Sith fails, and at the top of
that list apparently is Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Which starts a whole game of chess as to who
becomes the governor, who appoints the senator to replace Marco Rubio,
who's going to become the Secretary of State. You know,
there's a couple of other people there that are going
to need to be replaced, so you know, there's there's jockeying.
Is like multi level chest jockeying for all of these positions.
Should DeSantis do it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know who's been fighting hard for that senator nomination
and on television constantly saying, Oh, I'd be surprised if
I'll ass but I'll take it in.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Laura Trumph absolutely, Oh, I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
She says. Let's talk about the story that everybody's talking about,
not only in New York but across the country. The
killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson happened right across
the street. It happened while we were on.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The AIE I know. I mean, who has not been
in that hotel for an event or something. I mean,
it's a it's a real central place in New York
social life.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, we don't all get to be the executive of
NASA County Champagne. I've never been there. I've never been
there for an event. But it was amazing. I mean,
people were running around the building saying, Hey, somebody was
shot outside.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's insane and if you see the footage, I mean,
it's just so chilling that this can happen. And the
thing that I'm finding very disturbing are people who are
celebrating this murder because i mean, sort of in the
dark places on the internet people are saying, hey, you know,
there's all this snarky stuff out there. We were denied coverage.
You know, he got what he deserved. I mean, you know,
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they're all kinds of things out there, which I would
say to them, Okay, we all have complaints about insurance
and medical care. I get that, but be careful about
celebrating the cold blooded murder of someone on the street,
because where does that lead Who's next? Why is that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, absolutely, but I understand the outrage. I don't understand
cheering someone's death, yes, but I understand the outrage. I
have a son that has Type one diabetes and it
was United Healthcare that was delaying, okaying his insulin, and
you know how infuriating that is and how emotional you
get at that time. Now, what I did is I
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looked up all their salaries and put it all over
social media and said, if he's they're denying your coverage,
this is how much they make. Yeah, you know what,
the one guy was worth like five hundred million dollars
a half a billion dollars. So they're taking in all
that money while they're denying people like my son life
saving treatments. And so I get the outrage.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, I think anyone who's had to deal with this.
I've got a mother, you know, who's older, and it's
just it's just a nightmare. It's just so difficult, especially
for older people to try to navigate this who are
not tech savvy. It's rough. However, saying that this, this
murder is justified because of that, that is that is
a slippery slope to anarchy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's funny because you know what you've seen on the
internet is going to play out. If he's arrested and
that turns out to be true that a wife or
a loved one died because they were denied coverage, he
will become a cause celeb.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The fact that he wrote with a sharpie on the
bullets those three words denied to pose, defend tells you
there's something. Oh, absolutely, something happened. Absolutely, And if he
hadn't flirted with the lady in the hostel, we would
never see his smile, we wouldn't have seen his face
because he had a mask on and all the other
CCTV stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, the guy that the former NYPD chief of Detective
Boys who now works for ABC, said the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
It's a long time investigations, I have never seen anybody
write anything on a shellcasing.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, and all the time, he says he's been investigating
in New York. That was the first time that he
ever saw anybody write a message on shellcasings. I don't
think that's ever ever happened in the country.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's what you call literally sending a message.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh and he wanted them found. Yeah. And by the way,
we found out too overnight that that that cell phone
that was found that was his was a burner.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Phone, right, no contact, but apparently there was a coffee
cup and a water bottle in the garbage that they found.
Remember the Gilgo Beach murder. They found his saliva on
the pizza crusts, and that's how they tracked him down.
So I'm wondering, if you know, if that's what they're
looking at now.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, they have it. They have the water bottle he had,
and they had the granola wrapper that he had. It's
amazing the way they investigate these and how quick they are.
But it's also amazing that they can't find him. And
that's what's top right now. This is the chief of
detectives once again.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Speculation on motive is important, but right now it's secondary
to the apprehension, which they're moving very quickly on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right everybody, everybody's focused on the motive because the motive
is what makes it the most compelling story.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Exactly, because who hasn't had similar stories to what you
were talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But the police they're like, well, that's great that we
know the motive. That might narrow it down. But what
we have to do is get this.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You got to find the guy. But as to the motive,
there was an interesting thing in the news that hit
yesterday about was it Anthem Health that wanted to restrict
the amount of time you're under anesthesia during surgery?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, everybody who had a major freak out and rightly so.
And they're like, oh, Anthem said, was it Anthem? Plain? Yeah,
it was Anthem, And they said, oh, people misunderstood, they mischaracterized.
But just to be careful, we're going to withdraw the
whole plan. I mean, that's nuts. Can you imagine being
under the knife you're no in the n aesthesia wears
off in the middle.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I get the outrage. I understand the outrage, and it's
it's obscene. It's obscene. The amount of money the healthcare
industry makes and the fact that they make it by
turning people down over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And who can afford it without insurance. It's in the
I had a broken toe. It was two thousand dollars
and this was years ago. In the emergency room, I
didn't even need to go waiting for five hours two
thousand dollars. Insurance covered it. But can you imagine if
you didn't have that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, it's ridiculous, right, But even when insurance covers things,
there's still cost afterwards. There's people that are going broke
right now because of medical bills that insurance companies didn't pay,
and they're surprised to get this big bill. I look
at this, is he accomplished his goal. Yes, if he
wanted outrage across the country, he accomplished his goal. Now
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he might end up killing himself. He might end up
being in jail the rest of his life. But my
feeling is he's satisfied right now. He's thinking to himself,
I got my message out there. And the sick thing is,
as you saw on social media, in a way, people
are all lining up behind him.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But we got to be careful who's paying more for security. Now,
you got to know these pharmaceutical executives, insurance executives are
really they already have a lot of security because they
have to. But now they're going to see this ramp up.
I mean, there's going to be so much paranoia and
fear and security, and I just worry about where things
like this lead.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's not good, No, it's not good. But maybe maybe
they can have better business practices. Maybe that's the way
to protect themselves. Maybe they can cut their profits, they
can cut them in half and they wouldn't be hurting.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Do you know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I wonder how this will affect how people think about
RFK Junior's nomination to have HHS because he's always talking
about big pharma medicine. We need reforms that people are
you know, I wonder if this is will lead some credence,
in some help to his nomination.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I think you're right. That's a great thought. I
think you're absolutely right. By the way, I want to
play this former secretary, former chief of chief of detective's
voice one more time because he had he had a
great thought. He said, this guy's going to get caught.
There's no way this guy isn't going to get caught,
and he's not talking about the DNA, no other evidence.
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It was his picture.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, that's a smile.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Fact that he took his mask down for a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You're gonna kill someone, don't you flirt.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He'll be on the front page of every newspaper. It
is certainly on the East coast, mostly mostly through out
the nation, and that's important. You want to find those
It's up in the airports, it's up in bus term roles,
it's up everywhere. And now you're just looking for that
face and someone knows him somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The thing is And this is what in the back
of my mind, because it is going to be a
movie someday. Did he know when he took his mask
down that he was going to be on camera? Did
he want that out there?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Probably not, I think, no, you don't want to get caught,
I imagine. And who's thinking they're going to be seen
at a hostel checking in or whatever it was he
was doing at the counter. Yeah, that's not where you're worried.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I just I just wonder. I just wonder if
he doesn't care at this point that he did what
he needed to do, He doesn't even care anymoreybe, although
if that was the case, he might have just stood
there and gave himself up. So I'm probably not fireworks
on Capitol Hill. And our viewers have some messages for Laura.
You'll hear all of that next Bring it on, Welcome back,
(10:55):
Larry Manty with Laura Karran and Laura was on yesterday
and she was on yesterday and at one point she
talked about though they're not going ever to see the
Christmas tree, she hates the Christmas tree. Christmas tree, you
despise the rock. That's right, Christmas, That's true, That's exactly
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that's the way to phrase it. And Nancy wanted to
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Hi, this is Tracy. I've been listening to w R
for a very long time and I am with Laura
on the Christmas Tree. Love it from Afar TV walking by,
but to go there for the actual lighting.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Not that big a deal.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And I'm with Larry on the baby carriage. I was
so surprised to find that out only a couple of
years ago, and I am now in my sixties.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That was because I was shocked to hear that baby
carrots weren't grown that way, that they are actually bigger
carrots that are sliced downund carrots. Yeah, did you know that?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I did know that. I didn't know that swing. But
I have to say Tracy's got a great voice for radio.
I don't know if Tracy, if you've ever considered a
career in radio, I mean, you should try it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Although A Blaine, who's in for Natalie today in producing,
said she had a great voice for porn.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Hey, not that he'd know what that's like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
No, not at all. He was just he was just
kind of guessing. But not all of the calls agreed
with you. You also talked about NASS deportation and how
much it would hurt the economy.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
Laura, that's suspicious argument. There are plenty of legal immigrants
here who will do the job. These illegals haven't been
here that long, and actually they're not really interested in
anything but the free handouts. That's what lord them here.
Face the facts, babe.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So okay, maybe you're right. You know, it's interesting because
my friend is has friends who are dream whose parents
came here from Mexico, but now they're adults themselves, and
they supported Trump because they said exactly that. They said that, well,
we don't want these new people coming in because they're
not actually going to work like we do. They're here
for the handouts. So that is an opinion that is
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shared by people who have come here from another country
and are now working. So isn't that it's an interesting shift?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It is. I don't even think we're going to get
the mass deportations. I think that because of the way
they've laid this out. Yeah, and they're going to go
after criminals first, and then they're going to go after
the gangs, and then they're going to try to find
those three hundred thousand kids that went missing, and they
have no idea where they are. That's going to take
four years.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's a big to do list and it'll take a
while to get down to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I'm not sure it's going to be a while
before we get after work.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, we don't know. See, this is what is so
interesting about this era that we're in. We just don't
know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, I do know Tom Holman's telling the truth, and
I do know he's going to come into these cities
and he doesn't care. And he's also said that if
you try to stop him he's going to arrest you, Adams.
I know, I know, Mayor Adams is really interesting. Let's
talk about that again a little bit later. I did
want to play this audio because it was amazing yesterday.
Did you hear any at any of the hearings, the
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House hearings about the assassination attempt and my rest Secret Service? Better?
Oh man, it was tremendous television. This is Texas Republican
Pat Fallon was talking to the Acting Director of the
Secret Service, Ronald Rowe, and he talked about a nine
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to eleven memorial that Trump was at and the fact
that he allegedly told all of the rest of the
Secret Service agents to stand back out of the picture
and he wanted to be right behind Donald Trump, and
Rowe took exception to that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Actually, Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack of
the detail off out of the pictures view. And that
is the day where we remember the more than three
thousand people that have died on nine to eleven. I
actually responded to Ground Zero. I was there going through
the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was there
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at Fresh Kills.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I'm not asking you that what now, come didn't talk
to show respect, not for a secret service.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Died on not that you were trying to be. Do
not invoke nine.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
To eleven for political purposes?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh about not? I'm invoking this war, sir? How about
that it went nuts?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So I'm always a skeptical of legislators that that yell
at people or you know, they love the grandstanding. This
is how they make their money, this is how they
get their attention. This is how we're talking about a
congressman from Texas that we probably wouldn't be talking about.
And so I do have a level of cynicism about this.
I also know I'm having worked with details in my
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political career. They're there, you might not see them. Their
job is to be kind of low key, maybe not
so visible for something like this photo op or whatever
it was. Uh, And so I there's always more to
the story. It's the fireworks that gets the attention, but
there's always layers underneath it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, they came out with a list of things that
could be changed and they all agreed to that. And Row,
I'll give him some credit. He says we messed up
in Butler, Pennsylvania. And he says things have to be changed.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And they do obviously they after this, Yes they do,
and you're right.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They knew this was going to get played, and they
knew it was going to be across the country. So
Fallin yelling over him and attacking him. First of all,
I think he thought this was going poorly for him
all of a sudden he wanted to jump in. But
he knows that it's like candy to us in radio
and on television. To play that kind of audio you
want to hear more sure, not.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Perfect protective because you want to be visible, because you
weren't listening for.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
The fall this agency.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Fressman, President, because you are putting you put those agents
out of position, sir, and you are out.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Of wa Chairman, mister chairman.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We can't resist it. I'm just looking at the TVs to.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The Secret Service. Guy really held his own I do him.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think he won. He won that round. Yeah, there's
no question. Let's get the news now with Jacqueline Carl Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Good Morning.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
The Delta Airline stowaway and a flight from New York
to Paris is charged Thursday in Brooklyn Federal Court.
Speaker 12 (17:38):
Fifty seven year old Spetlana Dolly is accused of being
a stowaway. Without consent. If convicted, she could face five
years behind bars. Dolly managed to clear JFK Airport security
last week and board a Delta flight to Paris without
showing a boarding pass. The Russian woman who has the
US green cart apparently took advantage of the Thanksgiving holiday
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madness to blend in with the crowd. She did not
enter a plea and is being detained until mid afternoon
Friday to give her legal aid lawyer time to work
out a bail deal. Sarah Lee Kessler WOR News.
Speaker 11 (18:14):
And the public will likely never know the contents of
a Health Ethics Committee report from its investigation of Matt Gates.
The House voted not to release the report on the
committee's investigation over allegations of sexual misconduct and drug use
by the former congressman. Gates resigned from Congress last month
after he was announced as the nominee for US Attorney General,
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but withdrew after it became doubtful he would be confirmed.
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Speaker 2 (19:22):
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Speaker 2 (19:37):
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Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh that's right, the snow away. Yeah there, Yeah, thanks
a lot, Jacqueline. What what if Daniel Penny is found guilty?
There are reports that Alvin Bragg may have a surprise move.
If he is, we'll tell you all about it. It
next Good morning, is Larry Manty here with Laura Kern.
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So the jury in the Daniel Penny trial continue to
deliberate today. What's it been now three and a half days.
I think it's going into it. It's third and a
half day.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Right, Yeah, it's going into It's been a long it's
a long. I mean this, like you said before, Larry
or somebody that you quoted, this, it looks like when
it goes on this long and they want to see
the tapes again and again, it could be a hung jury.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure it's going to be a
full acquittal, and I'm not sure that it won't be
an acquittal on the most serious charge of manslaughter and
then a hung jury on criminal negligence. That's interesting if
it happens that way. If I don't know, we'll have
to talk to an attorney. It's a great question. If
he's found not guilty of manslaughter, he can't be tried
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for that again, right, They could bring it back up
on criminal negligence, and.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In the meantime, you have the victim's family suing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I know, I know, so him a hung jury or
an acquittal is going to help Daniel Penny a whole lot. Yeah,
something really interesting. Paul Morrow, who is an attorney and
former NYPD and has some connections. He's on Fox News
and he has been way ahead of many stories and
he I don't know if I buy this one to
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take you the truth, because it sounds like it's really
out there. But he said this about the if Daniel
Penny is found guilty that apparently Alvin Bragg is thinking
maybe he's going to let him go.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
I'm hearing on the side through some of my sourcing
that the DA's office is actually putting out the notion
that if there is a guilty conviction here a guilty verdict,
that there may not be a carceral sentence fit Daniel Penny.
And I think what that is potentially is the DA's
office is reading the room and they say, I want
popular this case is and how ludicrous it has become,
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and so almost backpedaling now, And of course if you'll
going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case
to begin with.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Absolutely in this case. Do you think this case every
should have been brought in the first place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, I think first we need to pause for the
vocabulary word of the day carcerole means having to do
with incarceration, and I admit.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I had to ask, and Blaine knew what it was,
and I didn't know what it was. You know how
embarrassed I am now that Blaine knew that word.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, you're man enough to admit it, and I respect that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Oh well, FA.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But as to your question, uh, I mean it should
it have been brought Probably not, but it was. And
I think that Alvin Bragg is now seeing sort of
the way the wind is blowing, which is a little
different perhaps that the wind that blew him into office.
And he's seeing, you know, it's these kinds of trials
and these kinds of problems that are hurting Democrats nationwide,
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and maybe you know, I think a lot of Democrats
are getting the memo that we have to be serious
about crime.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. I think you're right, and Paul Morrow is right
more than he's wrong. So it'll be interesting if that happens.
I don't think they ever had a chance. And here's
the reason. The simple reason is everybody runs rides the subway.
Everybody on that jewelry rides the subway. Everybody's been in
that situation. I've been in that situation on the subway
when somebody comes into that car and you're trapped in
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an enclosed area and there's no way out, and you're
just hoping not me, not me, not me. I hope
he doesn't come towards me. And then if he goes
towards someone else, people look the other way. Daniel Penny didn't.
Daniel Penny is a hero for getting up there. Look,
two things can be true at the same time. You
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can still feel bad for Jordan Neely. This absolutely the
system failed him, absolutely, and he shouldn't have He shouldn't
have been.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
He shouldn't have been killed.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, and he should not have been killed. He should
not have been killed. But he shouldn't have been doing
what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But you know, a lot of my very I have
young people in my life, have got daughters, a lot
of you know, very progressive people who ride the subway
are like, yeah, I kind of get what went down here.
I've been there. I don't like it, but I get
it right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And there was people that were interviewed that were on
that car that said I thought I was going to
die that day. That's how see we don't we see
the pictures of him, and we see him as this
Michael Jackson impersonator, and you look at it and you go, oh,
he shouldn't have died. No, he has a long rapped street.
He has assaulted women for no reason, assaulted them on
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park benches. He's mentally ill. He should never have been
out on the streets. Right, But that doesn't mean that
Daniel Penny shouldn't have jumped up that day. He knew
none of that. He just knew. He's a marine. He
is trained to defend people and he saw this was
happening and he sprung in the action. And thank God
for him.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And the reality is he shouldn't have to be in
the position where this happens, you know, I mean, neither
of them. I mean, this is a terrible story for
two families.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, there's no question. And so I think the it's
heading is the way I hope it's heading. And I
hope now he can't sue, right, I mean, who's he
going to sue. He can't really sue the city for
false prosecution. I mean, he just lost two years of
his life for doing the right thing. I certainly hope
that somebody out there either just gives them a lot
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of money or hires them, or you know, they make
a movie about this guy because he deserves it. So
there's a whole lot going on in Washington. I think
we can move on from unless you have something else
you want to say about the new anything. No, I
think we said it all. Pete Hegseth is now fighting
for his very existence because I wonder if he goes
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back to being a Fox News host.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You know, it's interesting because they refer to him as
their former colleague, and are the allegations from many Fox employees.
I know that they're anonymous, and Hegseeth's defenders are saying, oh,
you can just make anything up when you're anonymous. But
there's been like ten Fox employees coming forward talking about
the alcohol, talking about the improper behavior. So is it
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a liability for Fox to take him back after this? Now?
What's interesting to me it seems that Hegseeth has learned
from both Matt Gates about what not to do and
from Brett Kavanaugh about what to do. Yes, and that
is take the fight back and the fact that he's
you know, taking it to the media, blaming the media,
pointing to the camera saying it's not about me, it's
about the mainstream media, it's about the anti Maga crowd
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wanting to hurt my cause. So, which is interesting, and
you've got the behavior. So, but then you've also got
a really important question that I know a lot of
Republican Senators are wrestling with. Is his actual lack of
qualifications as has been described, That is, he is he
up to the job? Will he will the folks in
the Pentagon who've been there forever eat his lunch, because
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he's sort of like a lamb to the slaughter in
some ways getting into this job.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I don't think they will. And he's going to surround
himself with some really good people, and I love what
he says. Donald Trump said to him, he said, We've
tried generals, we've tried politicians, we've tried businessmen, and they've
all failed. Every one of them have failed. I want
a war hero. I want somebody that was in a
rock or Afghanistan and actually knocked down doors. I want
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a fighter. And that's why I'm choosing you.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, that's what hag Seth is showing. He's showing grit,
he's showing a fight, he's not backing down. And it
seemed like yesterday it was kind of going to be
over for him. It was just a matter of when.
Today it sounds different and he's court and the other
thing that Matt Gates didn't do. Matt Gates hates politicians.
He hates those senators, it's been reported, and so he
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didn't go and court them. This guy is making the rounds,
he's bringing the wife, he's getting the mom on TV,
who's also been told to blame the media. So that's
what's happening. Like an he's not going down without a
full court press, and maybe that's something that's very attractive
to his potential future boss.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And you're right about Gates and that he made a
lot of people mad at him to start with. I
had a lot of enemies there. But he did make
the rounds. He did make the rounds, that's true. And
at least six senators told him, you're probably not hetting through.
It's not gonna happen. I wonder if I have time
to play this now. I think we have to wrap
this up at this point, but it'll be interesting. I
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think he goes through now, and I think it's really
fascinating what he said about the drinking he said, like
a lot of people that came back from war, I
had a problem with the bottle.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He also said I'll stop drinking if I get confirmed.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He said he's not drinking now.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He did.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
He told the senators he's not drinking. No, okay, yeah,
and he said he didn't just say he said that.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Because that has been reported. If I am, if I
am the director of the DD, I will stop drinking.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah. No. A couple of the senators came out and
said he said he's not drinking now, and he said
he would not drink if he was confirmed.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, relief.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But if he's not drinking now, I mean, look, he's
saying this is problem. List.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
The senator to watch is Senator Joni Ernst, who is
a combat veteran herself has been the subject of sexual assault.
She's she has been very noncommittal.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They need four. They need four to do it because
the three is not enough, even though they only have
fifty three because JD. Vance comes in and breaks the time.
And right now it doesn't like, doesn't sound like they
have for you, sound like you're rooting against him.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I don't really you know what, I don't know. Let's
see it's not.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Up to me.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
They sound like you're rooting against him. Donald Trump got
a big award today, The biggest award ever. Is the
way he would put it, it's the it's the biggest
people to say.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
No one's ever seen anything like it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We'll tell you what it is next. So they had
a hearing on Capitol Hill the other day about airline fees, right,
and because they're ridiculous. The airlines have been gaging and
dimed baggage to pick your own scene.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And then all these little micro classes that you can
be put in for an extra however much money.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
It's amazing. So they had a hear about it, and
they had the heads of all the airlines going there
in front of the Senate, in front of the Senate
Committee to answer questions about that, and I just had
left because it is one of those times. The Senators
love this kind of stuff. Oh, they love.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It because you know, anyone who's flown, it's like the
insurance thing. We've all had our stories.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yes, And so there they know they're on the right side. Yeah,
even if they're in the really on the wrong side
of the issue, they're on the right side because they
know everybody agrees with them exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So bipartisan love.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
If you get if you are in the position where
you're going to get a call to appear before the
Senate or the House, and you know that it's not
a partisan issue, don't go.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, you're just a punching bag. You are nothing but
a straw covered in skin to be punched.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Not that it's not a problem, it's a legitimate right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, not that it's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm glad they're addressing it. But you get your popcorn
and you just sit there because these poor guys.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Are just sitting ducks.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Not around by all sides. Because a lot of times
during the hearings, you can you'll get saved. If it's
an issue that the Democrats agree with, the Republicans attack
you the democratic one of the Democratic senators of jacks
or talks over the person and then asks a friendly question.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So you know, you know, it's interesting, what's the answer
more regulation in this one?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You mean, and I'm talking about all the ones in
this this one.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What's the answer? And and people you know generally don't
like regulation too much regulation? So how what is government's
actual role in this? That's the interesting question.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, yes, they'd like. People don't like regulations unless it
helps them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Right, unless there are you know, regulations they want, and
there's always something somebody wants somewhere. Yes, it's going to
make some group happy.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The masses want this. There's masses question. So the senator
has and I'll play her first. So this is a Democrat,
just to show you, Democrats and Republicans were just as
feisty and attacked him just as much.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point
and you just say up, you want to pick a seat,
We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Some random amount more.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I get it. You want to sit with your three
year old daughter, Sorry, you gotta pay more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So people that hear that clipper see her, are like, yeah,
she's fighting for us, just like Senator Bloomenthal from Connecticut.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
They feel, with more than understandable justification, that they are
piggybanks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that
seem to have no connection to any costs that the
airlines incurt.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But you know what's interesting. I mean I fly a lot,
and I am struck by how much prices really have
stayed the same for say twenty twenty years. Honestly, to
fly it's not that expensive, and so I guess they have,
you know, their costs, expand labor costs, fuel cost, equipment,
all of that stuff gets more expensive. So they got
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to find the money somewhere while remaining competitive.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Why not just be upfront about it, though, because there's
these fees that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You get, So would you rather pay like everyone just
pays more, yes, than the Nickel and Diamond.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Rather know going in to make that choioue whether I
can afford to fly that day or whether I can
afford to do it. I'd rather know right up front.
I don't want them to trick me by saying, guess what,
this flight's only one hundred and fifty nine dollars, Yeah,
and then you find out it's actually three hundred dollars
with all the fees. That's what I would like, And
I think that's what.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
The SI right, If you want a seat, you gotta
pay more.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Right Now, let's go to the Republicans, and I'm gonna
play two from the same guy because it's Josh Hawley.
Oh yeah, and he the poor guy he is, He's
really a star in these hearings because he's very smart
and he's an attorney and a former prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Never forget the image of him running through the hall
on January sixth. That was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I know the Democrats all love that, love that. I know,
I know it's your favorite favorite running photo. But but
he just he doesn't have that extra it factor to
run for something higher. There's something about Josh Hallwy that
he's never and it's probably frustrating to him. But here
he is taking on one of the heads of the airlines.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Your airlines are paying millions of dollars to your employees
to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line
because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, he's talking about the fees that they will charge
to stand in special lines and not stand in that line,
and then the then the people at the counter have
to tell them no, no, no no, you have to
go back and you have to stand.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So he's blaming the poor employees who have to enforce
these dumb policies, and they're the ones in the front
line facing the ire of all the angry people.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think he was blaming them for making them do that.
Your employees have to arrass these people. Man, you just
take a little poor Josh.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Hawley, nobody enjoys flying in your air lines. It's a disaster.
You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You
harass them to death.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
A little history onic, don't you think. No, it's a nightmare.
It is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It is a nightmare. It is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean it's an inconvenience and it's a pain in
the butt, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And they're ripping you off. You aren't surprised. You've never
gotten you see now you're smiling right now.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, and yeah, because I feel like I got under
your skin a little bit. It's kind of fun to watch.
I didn't know it would be so easy.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh it is extremely easy. But especially on this topic,
you've never got upset. You've never said, wait a second,
I got to pay one hundred bucks from my bags.
Wait a second, I gotta do that?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Well, I guess I have. Because I travel so much,
I have streamlined what I bring. I bring a little
backpack that just fits under my seat. I don't have
to like lift those big things up into the things
over the seats. The compartments. So I guess I have
adapted to our new reality.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh man, you are easily sweat.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And I you know, And I have a loyalty program
so I get three miles, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Mayor Adams seems to be getting more and more vocal
in a support of Donald Trump. We'll talk about that
to Rob Astorino. It's seven o'clock now the news.
And good morning, Larry Menti here co hosting with Laura
Kerrn today former NASA county executive now political commentator.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome, Good morning, Larry, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Let's get to the Big three and then we can
talk about it. We now have seen the face of
the assassin who killed United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson on
the streets of New York this week, and we know
what those words written on the shellcasings now mean.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Deny delay, depose, variations of the maximum deny delay defend,
which is actually the name of a book. These are
sayings and you can find them all over the internet
and read it and other postings about insurance company practices
of trying to find ways out of paying on claims
that they are disputing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, so it looks like he or someone in his
family was denied coverage. That killer. Tonight's still on the loose.
Another day of deliberations in the Daniel Penny manslaughter trial,
and as it drags on, more and more people are
predicting the outcome. Any quick verdict is out the window.
So we're trending in the direction of a possibility of
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a hang jury. Yep, and Pete Hegsith will not go
quietly into the night. He is fighting in the halls
of Congress, surrounded by reporters, and he had this message
for them, and I'm proud of what I fought for.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I'm not going to back down from them one bit.
I will answer all of these Senators' questions, but this
will not be a process tried in the media.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't answer to anyone in this group. The nominee
for the Secretary of Defense spent the day meeting with
senators trying to shore up support for confirmation, while President
elect Trump is reportedly looking for a replacement nominee just
in case hag Sith fails, and at the top of
that list apparently is Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Which starts a whole game of chess as to who
becomes the governor, who appoints the senator to replace Marco Rubio,
who's going to become the Secretary of State. You know,
there's a couple of other people there that are going
to need to be replaced, so you know, there's there's jockeying.
Is like multi level chest jockeying for all of these positions.
Should DeSantis do it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know who's been fighting hard for that senator nomination
and on television constantly saying, Oh, I'd be surprised if
I'll ass but I'll take it in.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Laura Trumph absolutely, Oh, I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
She says. Let's talk about the story that everybody's talking about,
not only in New York but across the country. The
killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson happened right across
the street. It happened while we were on.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The AIE I know. I mean, who has not been
in that hotel for an event or something. I mean,
it's a it's a real central place in New York
social life.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, we don't all get to be the executive of
NASA County Champagne. I've never been there. I've never been
there for an event. But it was amazing. I mean,
people were running around the building saying, Hey, somebody was
shot outside.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's insane and if you see the footage, I mean,
it's just so chilling that this can happen. And the
thing that I'm finding very disturbing are people who are
celebrating this murder because i mean, sort of in the
dark places on the internet people are saying, hey, you know,
there's all this snarky stuff out there. We were denied coverage.
You know, he got what he deserved. I mean, you know,
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they're all kinds of things out there, which I would
say to them, Okay, we all have complaints about insurance
and medical care. I get that, but be careful about
celebrating the cold blooded murder of someone on the street,
because where does that lead Who's next? Why is that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, absolutely, but I understand the outrage. I don't understand
cheering someone's death, yes, but I understand the outrage. I
have a son that has Type one diabetes and it
was United Healthcare that was delaying, okaying his insulin, and
you know how infuriating that is and how emotional you
get at that time. Now, what I did is I
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looked up all their salaries and put it all over
social media and said, if he's they're denying your coverage,
this is how much they make. Yeah, you know what,
the one guy was worth like five hundred million dollars
a half a billion dollars. So they're taking in all
that money while they're denying people like my son life
saving treatments. And so I get the outrage.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, I think anyone who's had to deal with this.
I've got a mother, you know, who's older, and it's
just it's just a nightmare. It's just so difficult, especially
for older people to try to navigate this who are
not tech savvy. It's rough. However, saying that this, this
murder is justified because of that, that is that is
a slippery slope to anarchy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's funny because you know what you've seen on the
internet is going to play out. If he's arrested and
that turns out to be true that a wife or
a loved one died because they were denied coverage, he
will become a cause celeb.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The fact that he wrote with a sharpie on the
bullets those three words denied to pose, defend tells you
there's something. Oh, absolutely, something happened. Absolutely, And if he
hadn't flirted with the lady in the hostel, we would
never see his smile, we wouldn't have seen his face
because he had a mask on and all the other
CCTV stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, the guy that the former NYPD chief of Detective
Boys who now works for ABC, said the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
It's a long time investigations, I have never seen anybody
write anything on a shellcasing.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, and all the time, he says he's been investigating
in New York. That was the first time that he
ever saw anybody write a message on shellcasings. I don't
think that's ever ever happened in the country.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's what you call literally sending a message.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh and he wanted them found. Yeah. And by the way,
we found out too overnight that that that cell phone
that was found that was his was a burner.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Phone, right, no contact, but apparently there was a coffee
cup and a water bottle in the garbage that they found.
Remember the Gilgo Beach murder. They found his saliva on
the pizza crusts, and that's how they tracked him down.
So I'm wondering, if you know, if that's what they're
looking at now.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, they have it. They have the water bottle he had,
and they had the granola wrapper that he had. It's
amazing the way they investigate these and how quick they are.
But it's also amazing that they can't find him. And
that's what's top right now. This is the chief of
detectives once again.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Speculation on motive is important, but right now it's secondary
to the apprehension, which they're moving very quickly on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right everybody, everybody's focused on the motive because the motive
is what makes it the most compelling story.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Exactly, because who hasn't had similar stories to what you
were talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But the police they're like, well, that's great that we
know the motive. That might narrow it down. But what
we have to do is get this.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You got to find the guy. But as to the motive,
there was an interesting thing in the news that hit
yesterday about was it Anthem Health that wanted to restrict
the amount of time you're under anesthesia during surgery?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, everybody who had a major freak out and rightly so.
And they're like, oh, Anthem said, was it Anthem? Plain? Yeah,
it was Anthem, And they said, oh, people misunderstood, they mischaracterized.
But just to be careful, we're going to withdraw the
whole plan. I mean, that's nuts. Can you imagine being
under the knife you're no in the n aesthesia wears
off in the middle.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I get the outrage. I understand the outrage, and it's
it's obscene. It's obscene. The amount of money the healthcare
industry makes and the fact that they make it by
turning people down over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And who can afford it without insurance. It's in the
I had a broken toe. It was two thousand dollars
and this was years ago. In the emergency room, I
didn't even need to go waiting for five hours two
thousand dollars. Insurance covered it. But can you imagine if
you didn't have that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, it's ridiculous, right, But even when insurance covers things,
there's still cost afterwards. There's people that are going broke
right now because of medical bills that insurance companies didn't pay,
and they're surprised to get this big bill. I look
at this, is he accomplished his goal. Yes, if he
wanted outrage across the country, he accomplished his goal. Now
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he might end up killing himself. He might end up
being in jail the rest of his life. But my
feeling is he's satisfied right now. He's thinking to himself,
I got my message out there. And the sick thing is,
as you saw on social media, in a way, people
are all lining up behind him.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But we got to be careful who's paying more for security. Now,
you got to know these pharmaceutical executives, insurance executives are
really they already have a lot of security because they
have to. But now they're going to see this ramp up.
I mean, there's going to be so much paranoia and
fear and security, and I just worry about where things
like this lead.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's not good, No, it's not good. But maybe maybe
they can have better business practices. Maybe that's the way
to protect themselves. Maybe they can cut their profits, they
can cut them in half and they wouldn't be hurting.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Do you know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I wonder how this will affect how people think about
RFK Junior's nomination to have HHS because he's always talking
about big pharma medicine. We need reforms that people are
you know, I wonder if this is will lead some credence,
in some help to his nomination.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I think you're right. That's a great thought. I
think you're absolutely right. By the way, I want to
play this former secretary, former chief of chief of detective's
voice one more time because he had he had a
great thought. He said, this guy's going to get caught.
There's no way this guy isn't going to get caught,
and he's not talking about the DNA, no other evidence.
(09:45):
It was his picture.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, that's a smile.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Fact that he took his mask down for a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You're gonna kill someone, don't you flirt.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He'll be on the front page of every newspaper. It
is certainly on the East coast, mostly mostly through out
the nation, and that's important. You want to find those
It's up in the airports, it's up in bus term roles,
it's up everywhere. And now you're just looking for that
face and someone knows him somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The thing is And this is what in the back
of my mind, because it is going to be a
movie someday. Did he know when he took his mask
down that he was going to be on camera? Did
he want that out there?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Probably not, I think, no, you don't want to get caught,
I imagine. And who's thinking they're going to be seen
at a hostel checking in or whatever it was he
was doing at the counter. Yeah, that's not where you're worried.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I just I just wonder. I just wonder if
he doesn't care at this point that he did what
he needed to do, He doesn't even care anymoreybe, although
if that was the case, he might have just stood
there and gave himself up. So I'm probably not fireworks
on Capitol Hill. And our viewers have some messages for Laura.
You'll hear all of that next Bring it on, Welcome back,
(10:55):
Larry Manty with Laura Karran and Laura was on yesterday
and she was on yesterday and at one point she
talked about though they're not going ever to see the
Christmas tree, she hates the Christmas tree. Christmas tree, you
despise the rock. That's right, Christmas, That's true, That's exactly
(11:15):
that's the way to phrase it. And Nancy wanted to
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Hi, this is Tracy. I've been listening to w R
for a very long time and I am with Laura
on the Christmas Tree. Love it from Afar TV walking by,
but to go there for the actual lighting.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Not that big a deal.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And I'm with Larry on the baby carriage. I was
so surprised to find that out only a couple of
years ago, and I am now in my sixties.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That was because I was shocked to hear that baby
carrots weren't grown that way, that they are actually bigger
carrots that are sliced downund carrots. Yeah, did you know that?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I did know that. I didn't know that swing. But
I have to say Tracy's got a great voice for radio.
I don't know if Tracy, if you've ever considered a
career in radio, I mean, you should try it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Although A Blaine, who's in for Natalie today in producing,
said she had a great voice for porn.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Hey, not that he'd know what that's like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
No, not at all. He was just he was just
kind of guessing. But not all of the calls agreed
with you. You also talked about NASS deportation and how
much it would hurt the economy.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
Laura, that's suspicious argument. There are plenty of legal immigrants
here who will do the job. These illegals haven't been
here that long, and actually they're not really interested in
anything but the free handouts. That's what lord them here.
Face the facts, babe.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So okay, maybe you're right. You know, it's interesting because
my friend is has friends who are dream whose parents
came here from Mexico, but now they're adults themselves, and
they supported Trump because they said exactly that. They said that, well,
we don't want these new people coming in because they're
not actually going to work like we do. They're here
for the handouts. So that is an opinion that is
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shared by people who have come here from another country
and are now working. So isn't that it's an interesting shift?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It is. I don't even think we're going to get
the mass deportations. I think that because of the way
they've laid this out. Yeah, and they're going to go
after criminals first, and then they're going to go after
the gangs, and then they're going to try to find
those three hundred thousand kids that went missing, and they
have no idea where they are. That's going to take
four years.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's a big to do list and it'll take a
while to get down to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I'm not sure it's going to be a while
before we get after work.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, we don't know. See, this is what is so
interesting about this era that we're in. We just don't
know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, I do know Tom Holman's telling the truth, and
I do know he's going to come into these cities
and he doesn't care. And he's also said that if
you try to stop him he's going to arrest you, Adams.
I know, I know, Mayor Adams is really interesting. Let's
talk about that again a little bit later. I did
want to play this audio because it was amazing yesterday.
Did you hear any at any of the hearings, the
(14:16):
House hearings about the assassination attempt and my rest Secret Service? Better?
Oh man, it was tremendous television. This is Texas Republican
Pat Fallon was talking to the Acting Director of the
Secret Service, Ronald Rowe, and he talked about a nine
(14:36):
to eleven memorial that Trump was at and the fact
that he allegedly told all of the rest of the
Secret Service agents to stand back out of the picture
and he wanted to be right behind Donald Trump, and
Rowe took exception to that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Actually, Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack of
the detail off out of the pictures view. And that
is the day where we remember the more than three
thousand people that have died on nine to eleven. I
actually responded to Ground Zero. I was there going through
the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was there
(15:13):
at Fresh Kills.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I'm not asking you that what now, come didn't talk
to show respect, not for a secret service.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Died on not that you were trying to be. Do
not invoke nine.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
To eleven for political purposes?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh about not? I'm invoking this war, sir? How about
that it went nuts?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So I'm always a skeptical of legislators that that yell
at people or you know, they love the grandstanding. This
is how they make their money, this is how they
get their attention. This is how we're talking about a
congressman from Texas that we probably wouldn't be talking about.
And so I do have a level of cynicism about this.
I also know I'm having worked with details in my
(15:56):
political career. They're there, you might not see them. Their
job is to be kind of low key, maybe not
so visible for something like this photo op or whatever
it was. Uh, And so I there's always more to
the story. It's the fireworks that gets the attention, but
there's always layers underneath it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, they came out with a list of things that
could be changed and they all agreed to that. And Row,
I'll give him some credit. He says we messed up
in Butler, Pennsylvania. And he says things have to be changed.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And they do obviously they after this, Yes they do,
and you're right.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They knew this was going to get played, and they
knew it was going to be across the country. So
Fallin yelling over him and attacking him. First of all,
I think he thought this was going poorly for him
all of a sudden he wanted to jump in. But
he knows that it's like candy to us in radio
and on television. To play that kind of audio you
want to hear more sure, not.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Perfect protective because you want to be visible, because you
weren't listening for.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
The fall this agency.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Fressman, President, because you are putting you put those agents
out of position, sir, and you are out.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Of wa Chairman, mister chairman.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We can't resist it. I'm just looking at the TVs to.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The Secret Service. Guy really held his own I do him.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think he won. He won that round. Yeah, there's
no question. Let's get the news now with Jacqueline Carl Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Good Morning.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
The Delta Airline stowaway and a flight from New York
to Paris is charged Thursday in Brooklyn Federal Court.
Speaker 12 (17:38):
Fifty seven year old Spetlana Dolly is accused of being
a stowaway. Without consent. If convicted, she could face five
years behind bars. Dolly managed to clear JFK Airport security
last week and board a Delta flight to Paris without
showing a boarding pass. The Russian woman who has the
US green cart apparently took advantage of the Thanksgiving holiday
(18:00):
madness to blend in with the crowd. She did not
enter a plea and is being detained until mid afternoon
Friday to give her legal aid lawyer time to work
out a bail deal. Sarah Lee Kessler WOR News.
Speaker 11 (18:14):
And the public will likely never know the contents of
a Health Ethics Committee report from its investigation of Matt Gates.
The House voted not to release the report on the
committee's investigation over allegations of sexual misconduct and drug use
by the former congressman. Gates resigned from Congress last month
after he was announced as the nominee for US Attorney General,
(18:35):
but withdrew after it became doubtful he would be confirmed.
And now, if you are a Taco Bell customer, you
might be used in a Super Bowl ad. Taco Bell
is asking people to say cheese at select drive throughs
across the country. The Live maz drive through cam launched
this week and let's Taco Bell Rewards Members get pictures
(18:56):
taken inside their vehicle, and those who choose to participate
may even be featured in Taco Bell's Super Bowl fifty
nine commercial. Now, if you want to know where you
might get on this commercial and be a big star.
The five locations with cameras are in Los Angeles, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, Cookville, Tennessee, Houston,
and Wachula, Florida. Ah, I know there's no new would
(19:19):
you if there was one in New York or Pennsylvania
and New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Would you just go over there and just give him
a big old Just become a stowaway and go to California.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You're gonna be You want so much to be at
a Taco Bell commercial.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
It's sure in the super Bowl, so it's a lot
of you know, coverage there.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, if the lady went to France, maybe I
could get away with it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh that's right, the snow away. Yeah there, Yeah, thanks
a lot, Jacqueline. What what if Daniel Penny is found guilty?
There are reports that Alvin Bragg may have a surprise move.
If he is, we'll tell you all about it. It
next Good morning, is Larry Manty here with Laura Kern.
(20:04):
So the jury in the Daniel Penny trial continue to
deliberate today. What's it been now three and a half days.
I think it's going into it. It's third and a
half day.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Right, Yeah, it's going into It's been a long it's
a long. I mean this, like you said before, Larry
or somebody that you quoted, this, it looks like when
it goes on this long and they want to see
the tapes again and again, it could be a hung jury.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure it's going to be a
full acquittal, and I'm not sure that it won't be
an acquittal on the most serious charge of manslaughter and
then a hung jury on criminal negligence. That's interesting if
it happens that way. If I don't know, we'll have
to talk to an attorney. It's a great question. If
he's found not guilty of manslaughter, he can't be tried
(20:49):
for that again, right, They could bring it back up
on criminal negligence, and.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In the meantime, you have the victim's family suing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I know, I know, so him a hung jury or
an acquittal is going to help Daniel Penny a whole lot. Yeah,
something really interesting. Paul Morrow, who is an attorney and
former NYPD and has some connections. He's on Fox News
and he has been way ahead of many stories and
he I don't know if I buy this one to
(21:19):
take you the truth, because it sounds like it's really
out there. But he said this about the if Daniel
Penny is found guilty that apparently Alvin Bragg is thinking
maybe he's going to let him go.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
I'm hearing on the side through some of my sourcing
that the DA's office is actually putting out the notion
that if there is a guilty conviction here a guilty verdict,
that there may not be a carceral sentence fit Daniel Penny.
And I think what that is potentially is the DA's
office is reading the room and they say, I want
popular this case is and how ludicrous it has become,
(21:56):
and so almost backpedaling now, And of course if you'll
going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case
to begin with.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Absolutely in this case. Do you think this case every
should have been brought in the first place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, I think first we need to pause for the
vocabulary word of the day carcerole means having to do
with incarceration, and I admit.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I had to ask, and Blaine knew what it was,
and I didn't know what it was. You know how
embarrassed I am now that Blaine knew that word.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, you're man enough to admit it, and I respect that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Oh well, FA.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But as to your question, uh, I mean it should
it have been brought Probably not, but it was. And
I think that Alvin Bragg is now seeing sort of
the way the wind is blowing, which is a little
different perhaps that the wind that blew him into office.
And he's seeing, you know, it's these kinds of trials
and these kinds of problems that are hurting Democrats nationwide,
(22:49):
and maybe you know, I think a lot of Democrats
are getting the memo that we have to be serious
about crime.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. I think you're right, and Paul Morrow is right
more than he's wrong. So it'll be interesting if that happens.
I don't think they ever had a chance. And here's
the reason. The simple reason is everybody runs rides the subway.
Everybody on that jewelry rides the subway. Everybody's been in
that situation. I've been in that situation on the subway
when somebody comes into that car and you're trapped in
(23:18):
an enclosed area and there's no way out, and you're
just hoping not me, not me, not me. I hope
he doesn't come towards me. And then if he goes
towards someone else, people look the other way. Daniel Penny didn't.
Daniel Penny is a hero for getting up there. Look,
two things can be true at the same time. You
(23:38):
can still feel bad for Jordan Neely. This absolutely the
system failed him, absolutely, and he shouldn't have He shouldn't
have been.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
He shouldn't have been killed.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, and he should not have been killed. He should
not have been killed. But he shouldn't have been doing
what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But you know, a lot of my very I have
young people in my life, have got daughters, a lot
of you know, very progressive people who ride the subway
are like, yeah, I kind of get what went down here.
I've been there. I don't like it, but I get
it right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And there was people that were interviewed that were on
that car that said I thought I was going to
die that day. That's how see we don't we see
the pictures of him, and we see him as this
Michael Jackson impersonator, and you look at it and you go, oh,
he shouldn't have died. No, he has a long rapped street.
He has assaulted women for no reason, assaulted them on
(24:27):
park benches. He's mentally ill. He should never have been
out on the streets. Right, But that doesn't mean that
Daniel Penny shouldn't have jumped up that day. He knew
none of that. He just knew. He's a marine. He
is trained to defend people and he saw this was
happening and he sprung in the action. And thank God
for him.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And the reality is he shouldn't have to be in
the position where this happens, you know, I mean, neither
of them. I mean, this is a terrible story for
two families.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, there's no question. And so I think the it's
heading is the way I hope it's heading. And I
hope now he can't sue, right, I mean, who's he
going to sue. He can't really sue the city for
false prosecution. I mean, he just lost two years of
his life for doing the right thing. I certainly hope
that somebody out there either just gives them a lot
(25:17):
of money or hires them, or you know, they make
a movie about this guy because he deserves it. So
there's a whole lot going on in Washington. I think
we can move on from unless you have something else
you want to say about the new anything. No, I
think we said it all. Pete Hegseth is now fighting
for his very existence because I wonder if he goes
(25:39):
back to being a Fox News host.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You know, it's interesting because they refer to him as
their former colleague, and are the allegations from many Fox employees.
I know that they're anonymous, and Hegseeth's defenders are saying, oh,
you can just make anything up when you're anonymous. But
there's been like ten Fox employees coming forward talking about
the alcohol, talking about the improper behavior. So is it
(26:03):
a liability for Fox to take him back after this? Now?
What's interesting to me it seems that Hegseeth has learned
from both Matt Gates about what not to do and
from Brett Kavanaugh about what to do. Yes, and that
is take the fight back and the fact that he's
you know, taking it to the media, blaming the media,
pointing to the camera saying it's not about me, it's
about the mainstream media, it's about the anti Maga crowd
(26:27):
wanting to hurt my cause. So, which is interesting, and
you've got the behavior. So, but then you've also got
a really important question that I know a lot of
Republican Senators are wrestling with. Is his actual lack of
qualifications as has been described, That is, he is he
up to the job? Will he will the folks in
the Pentagon who've been there forever eat his lunch, because
(26:49):
he's sort of like a lamb to the slaughter in
some ways getting into this job.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I don't think they will. And he's going to surround
himself with some really good people, and I love what
he says. Donald Trump said to him, he said, We've
tried generals, we've tried politicians, we've tried businessmen, and they've
all failed. Every one of them have failed. I want
a war hero. I want somebody that was in a
rock or Afghanistan and actually knocked down doors. I want
(27:15):
a fighter. And that's why I'm choosing you.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, that's what hag Seth is showing. He's showing grit,
he's showing a fight, he's not backing down. And it
seemed like yesterday it was kind of going to be
over for him. It was just a matter of when.
Today it sounds different and he's court and the other
thing that Matt Gates didn't do. Matt Gates hates politicians.
He hates those senators, it's been reported, and so he
(27:38):
didn't go and court them. This guy is making the rounds,
he's bringing the wife, he's getting the mom on TV,
who's also been told to blame the media. So that's
what's happening. Like an he's not going down without a
full court press, and maybe that's something that's very attractive
to his potential future boss.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And you're right about Gates and that he made a
lot of people mad at him to start with. I
had a lot of enemies there. But he did make
the rounds. He did make the rounds, that's true. And
at least six senators told him, you're probably not hetting through.
It's not gonna happen. I wonder if I have time
to play this now. I think we have to wrap
this up at this point, but it'll be interesting. I
(28:16):
think he goes through now, and I think it's really
fascinating what he said about the drinking he said, like
a lot of people that came back from war, I
had a problem with the bottle.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He also said I'll stop drinking if I get confirmed.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He said he's not drinking now.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He did.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
He told the senators he's not drinking. No, okay, yeah,
and he said he didn't just say he said that.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Because that has been reported. If I am, if I
am the director of the DD, I will stop drinking.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah. No. A couple of the senators came out and
said he said he's not drinking now, and he said
he would not drink if he was confirmed.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, relief.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But if he's not drinking now, I mean, look, he's
saying this is problem. List.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
The senator to watch is Senator Joni Ernst, who is
a combat veteran herself has been the subject of sexual assault.
She's she has been very noncommittal.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They need four. They need four to do it because
the three is not enough, even though they only have
fifty three because JD. Vance comes in and breaks the time.
And right now it doesn't like, doesn't sound like they
have for you, sound like you're rooting against him.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I don't really you know what, I don't know. Let's
see it's not.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Up to me.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
They sound like you're rooting against him. Donald Trump got
a big award today, The biggest award ever. Is the
way he would put it, it's the it's the biggest
people to say.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
No one's ever seen anything like it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We'll tell you what it is next. So they had
a hearing on Capitol Hill the other day about airline fees, right,
and because they're ridiculous. The airlines have been gaging and
dimed baggage to pick your own scene.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And then all these little micro classes that you can
be put in for an extra however much money.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
It's amazing. So they had a hear about it, and
they had the heads of all the airlines going there
in front of the Senate, in front of the Senate
Committee to answer questions about that, and I just had
left because it is one of those times. The Senators
love this kind of stuff. Oh, they love.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It because you know, anyone who's flown, it's like the
insurance thing. We've all had our stories.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yes, And so there they know they're on the right side. Yeah,
even if they're in the really on the wrong side
of the issue, they're on the right side because they
know everybody agrees with them exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So bipartisan love.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
If you get if you are in the position where
you're going to get a call to appear before the
Senate or the House, and you know that it's not
a partisan issue, don't go.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, you're just a punching bag. You are nothing but
a straw covered in skin to be punched.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Not that it's not a problem, it's a legitimate right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, not that it's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm glad they're addressing it. But you get your popcorn
and you just sit there because these poor guys.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Are just sitting ducks.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Not around by all sides. Because a lot of times
during the hearings, you can you'll get saved. If it's
an issue that the Democrats agree with, the Republicans attack
you the democratic one of the Democratic senators of jacks
or talks over the person and then asks a friendly question.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So you know, you know, it's interesting, what's the answer
more regulation in this one?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You mean, and I'm talking about all the ones in
this this one.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What's the answer? And and people you know generally don't
like regulation too much regulation? So how what is government's
actual role in this? That's the interesting question.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, yes, they'd like. People don't like regulations unless it
helps them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Right, unless there are you know, regulations they want, and
there's always something somebody wants somewhere. Yes, it's going to
make some group happy.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The masses want this. There's masses question. So the senator
has and I'll play her first. So this is a Democrat,
just to show you, Democrats and Republicans were just as
feisty and attacked him just as much.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point
and you just say up, you want to pick a seat,
We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Some random amount more.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I get it. You want to sit with your three
year old daughter, Sorry, you gotta pay more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So people that hear that clipper see her, are like, yeah,
she's fighting for us, just like Senator Bloomenthal from Connecticut.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
They feel, with more than understandable justification, that they are
piggybanks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that
seem to have no connection to any costs that the
airlines incurt.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But you know what's interesting. I mean I fly a lot,
and I am struck by how much prices really have
stayed the same for say twenty twenty years. Honestly, to
fly it's not that expensive, and so I guess they have,
you know, their costs, expand labor costs, fuel cost, equipment,
all of that stuff gets more expensive. So they got
(33:13):
to find the money somewhere while remaining competitive.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Why not just be upfront about it, though, because there's
these fees that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You get, So would you rather pay like everyone just
pays more, yes, than the Nickel and Diamond.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Rather know going in to make that choioue whether I
can afford to fly that day or whether I can
afford to do it. I'd rather know right up front.
I don't want them to trick me by saying, guess what,
this flight's only one hundred and fifty nine dollars, Yeah,
and then you find out it's actually three hundred dollars
with all the fees. That's what I would like, And
I think that's what.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
The SI right, If you want a seat, you gotta
pay more.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Right Now, let's go to the Republicans, and I'm gonna
play two from the same guy because it's Josh Hawley.
Oh yeah, and he the poor guy he is, He's
really a star in these hearings because he's very smart
and he's an attorney and a former prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Never forget the image of him running through the hall
on January sixth. That was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I know the Democrats all love that, love that. I know,
I know it's your favorite favorite running photo. But but
he just he doesn't have that extra it factor to
run for something higher. There's something about Josh Hallwy that
he's never and it's probably frustrating to him. But here
he is taking on one of the heads of the airlines.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Your airlines are paying millions of dollars to your employees
to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line
because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, he's talking about the fees that they will charge
to stand in special lines and not stand in that line,
and then the then the people at the counter have
to tell them no, no, no no, you have to
go back and you have to stand.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So he's blaming the poor employees who have to enforce
these dumb policies, and they're the ones in the front
line facing the ire of all the angry people.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think he was blaming them for making them do that.
Your employees have to arrass these people. Man, you just
take a little poor Josh.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Hawley, nobody enjoys flying in your air lines. It's a disaster.
You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You
harass them to death.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
A little history onic, don't you think. No, it's a nightmare.
It is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It is a nightmare. It is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean it's an inconvenience and it's a pain in
the butt, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And they're ripping you off. You aren't surprised. You've never
gotten you see now you're smiling right now.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, and yeah, because I feel like I got under
your skin a little bit. It's kind of fun to watch.
I didn't know it would be so easy.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh it is extremely easy. But especially on this topic,
you've never got upset. You've never said, wait a second,
I got to pay one hundred bucks from my bags.
Wait a second, I gotta do that?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Well, I guess I have. Because I travel so much,
I have streamlined what I bring. I bring a little
backpack that just fits under my seat. I don't have
to like lift those big things up into the things
over the seats. The compartments. So I guess I have
adapted to our new reality.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh man, you are easily sweat.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And I you know, And I have a loyalty program
so I get three miles, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Mayor Adams seems to be getting more and more vocal
in a support of Donald Trump. We'll talk about that
to Rob Astorino. It's seven o'clock now the news.
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