December 6, 2024 • 7 mins
Jim Ryan talks to the WOR Morning Show about NASA’s plans to return to the moon. Jim discusses the plans from NASA and how Elon Musk’s Space X will be involved.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, Laura, I've wondered a lot why we never
went back to the moon. Yeah, right now. It was
kind of strange. It was such a big deal in
the liment.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Maybe it was fake.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Stop. You would have to bring that up right before
we go to Jim Ryan. I don't think he appreciates
it either.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Jim Ryan is the ABC News correspondent in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is exciting news, Jim.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It is. Yeah, people are going to go back to
the Moon. That's the plan at least, Larry, Why didn't
we do it? Yeah, in nineteen seventy two, you know,
they started this process. They put people on the moon.
It was fantastic, and I think the expectation was that
that would continue, that we'd eventually build a moon base
and have all sorts of activities there on the Moon. Well,
there's a couple of things got in the way. Watergate, Vietnam,
(00:48):
the eighties, energy, you know, everything sort of came crashing down.
I think after that, and maybe America lost its will
to go to the Moon. But the will seems back.
The money is there, and so here we go. So
the overarching program is called Artemis. That's the program to
put people back on the Moon eventually maybe beyond last Well,
(01:10):
two years ago Artemis won a rocket launched into space,
took the Orion crew craft around the Moon. They did
some orbits and then came back to Earth. No crew
is on board. This was a test mission. But and
the Orion craft came back it looked great. Engineers took
a closure look and said, man, this thing barely survived
the heat on re entry. We need to redesign the
(01:32):
heat shields. We need to make sure that this is safe.
So yesterday Bill Nelson, the NASA administrator, said that the
plan has been pushed back another year or so before
we can actually get a crew, a live crew orbiting
the Earth first of all, and then a crew going
to the Moon.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Do you get a sense you know, obviously we're changing administrations.
There will be a new leader of NASA. Trump is
tapping Jared Isaacman, who is a billionaire and a friend
of Elon Musk, to be the head of NASA. We
know that Elon Musk has done so much for space exploration,
space travel, more than NASA has done. One could argue,
(02:10):
do you see that you know the under a Trump
administration this initiative would continue. I would predict. The answer
is yes, and perhaps on steroids.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, either, you're right, you're right. But it's a symbiotic
relationship NASA and SpaceX. And even during the Apollo days
and the Geminy as they called it back then, private
industry was involved. You know, they had contractors, thousands of
contractors working on everything from the seat covers to the
space suits, to the tires on the lunar rover. You know,
there were private companies doing all of that. So it's
(02:40):
not surprising nobody should be too surprised that SpaceX and
Boeing are involved with NASA in these space initiatives. Artemis three,
the one that is supposed to put people on the
Moon again, will rely heavily on SpaceX. There's something called
the SpaceX Starship Human Landing System. So so we'll launch
this rocket with the crew on board for people. They
(03:04):
will hook up with the SpaceX Starship orbiting the Moon.
They'll you know, the four of them will climb into there.
Then two of them will drop down to the surface,
the other two staying up in orbit. So SpaceX will
be deeply involved in that whole process.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We've done some incredible things in space. We've broken boundaries
we never thought we could break. And it doesn't seem
like the like the public is as interested now as
they were, for instance, back when we landed on the Moon.
That still stands by percentage as the most watched event
on television. Do you think this will rekindle some of that?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Absolutely, I think it will. And you know, you've got
these other private projects that are going up carrying people,
you know, space tourists, taking them up into orbit or
up into the upper atmosphere and then bring them back down.
And I think that all draws attention to this over
or all project, or this's plan to build a moon base.
Why is it important in the first place. Well, at
some point in the future, the expectation is that our
(04:08):
little planet here won't be inhabitable anymore. We'll have to
get out of here one way or the other. So
this is a step in that direction.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, it's just it just blows the mind. I mean,
the fact that we did go to the Moon all
those many years ago.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And ALUs seventies, technology.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And then time and circumstances and events have prevented it.
But now there seems to be this new appetite and
I think this is something the country could really rally around,
something big that we do together. You know, maybe this
is the sort of thing that could help bridge some divides.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, you're right. You know, did it work in the
sixties and seventies, Yeah, apparently it did. I mean after
the Kennedy assassination, Kennedy had promised we would have people
on the Moon by the end of the decade, and yeah,
the country rallied around it, spent the money, had the
will in the initiative, and here we went.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, you concerned me, Jim for a second there, because
you said, this planet's not going to be inhabitable in
the near few and they'll all have to go to
the moon. There's not enough room for everybody. How do
I get my kids on the list in front of
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well maybe you're a great great great great grand that's
down the road. But you know it's the Moon, isn't
the destination. The moon is the jump off point. So
once we're on the Moon then and assuming we find
water there, you need water to sustain life. You can't
keep hauling it up from the Earth. But you can
also make rocket fuel with that from the Moon, it's
off to Mars and it's on out beyond the Solar system.
(05:32):
And so yeah, a million years ago of a million
years from now, who knows what this race is going
to look like.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We'll I'll be moldering in our grapes by then.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm a happy Friday everybody. Thanks a lot, Thank you
very much, Bran. That was really fascinating. ABC News correspondent
in Dallas. I'm sure we'll be talking to you about
that again.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I'm not moldering someone.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, I hope you're not moldering anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Thanks again, Jim, moldering, that's a pretty good word.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's a good SAT word. I don't think I know it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You can get context will give you the answer.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So you become moldy? Is that?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, the verb form of getting moldy.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. Well, thanks for that, beautiful thought.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That was really a nice way to end at the
interview with Jim story. You know what, I know, we're
coming up on Jim Burrelly, so I wanted to talk
about Joe Burrelly.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Joe Jim doesn't matter. It's one of the Brelly.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Brothers, the famous we are We're gonna be talking to him.
I think it's fascinating. I don't know if you saw
the last press conference with Mayor Adams, but the way
he embraced Tom Holman, the way he embraced uh Donald
Trump romance fascinating to me. Saying all the right things
(07:03):
about the immigrant crisis and the rediction
You know, Laura, I've wondered a lot why we never
went back to the moon. Yeah, right now. It was
kind of strange. It was such a big deal in
the liment.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Maybe it was fake.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Stop. You would have to bring that up right before
we go to Jim Ryan. I don't think he appreciates
it either.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Jim Ryan is the ABC News correspondent in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is exciting news, Jim.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It is. Yeah, people are going to go back to
the Moon. That's the plan at least, Larry, Why didn't
we do it? Yeah, in nineteen seventy two, you know,
they started this process. They put people on the moon.
It was fantastic, and I think the expectation was that
that would continue, that we'd eventually build a moon base
and have all sorts of activities there on the Moon. Well,
there's a couple of things got in the way. Watergate, Vietnam,
(00:48):
the eighties, energy, you know, everything sort of came crashing down.
I think after that, and maybe America lost its will
to go to the Moon. But the will seems back.
The money is there, and so here we go. So
the overarching program is called Artemis. That's the program to
put people back on the Moon eventually maybe beyond last Well,
(01:10):
two years ago Artemis won a rocket launched into space,
took the Orion crew craft around the Moon. They did
some orbits and then came back to Earth. No crew
is on board. This was a test mission. But and
the Orion craft came back it looked great. Engineers took
a closure look and said, man, this thing barely survived
the heat on re entry. We need to redesign the
(01:32):
heat shields. We need to make sure that this is safe.
So yesterday Bill Nelson, the NASA administrator, said that the
plan has been pushed back another year or so before
we can actually get a crew, a live crew orbiting
the Earth first of all, and then a crew going
to the Moon.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Do you get a sense you know, obviously we're changing administrations.
There will be a new leader of NASA. Trump is
tapping Jared Isaacman, who is a billionaire and a friend
of Elon Musk, to be the head of NASA. We
know that Elon Musk has done so much for space exploration,
space travel, more than NASA has done. One could argue,
(02:10):
do you see that you know the under a Trump
administration this initiative would continue. I would predict. The answer
is yes, and perhaps on steroids.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, either, you're right, you're right. But it's a symbiotic
relationship NASA and SpaceX. And even during the Apollo days
and the Geminy as they called it back then, private
industry was involved. You know, they had contractors, thousands of
contractors working on everything from the seat covers to the
space suits, to the tires on the lunar rover. You know,
there were private companies doing all of that. So it's
(02:40):
not surprising nobody should be too surprised that SpaceX and
Boeing are involved with NASA in these space initiatives. Artemis three,
the one that is supposed to put people on the
Moon again, will rely heavily on SpaceX. There's something called
the SpaceX Starship Human Landing System. So so we'll launch
this rocket with the crew on board for people. They
(03:04):
will hook up with the SpaceX Starship orbiting the Moon.
They'll you know, the four of them will climb into there.
Then two of them will drop down to the surface,
the other two staying up in orbit. So SpaceX will
be deeply involved in that whole process.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We've done some incredible things in space. We've broken boundaries
we never thought we could break. And it doesn't seem
like the like the public is as interested now as
they were, for instance, back when we landed on the Moon.
That still stands by percentage as the most watched event
on television. Do you think this will rekindle some of that?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Absolutely, I think it will. And you know, you've got
these other private projects that are going up carrying people,
you know, space tourists, taking them up into orbit or
up into the upper atmosphere and then bring them back down.
And I think that all draws attention to this over
or all project, or this's plan to build a moon base.
Why is it important in the first place. Well, at
some point in the future, the expectation is that our
(04:08):
little planet here won't be inhabitable anymore. We'll have to
get out of here one way or the other. So
this is a step in that direction.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, it's just it just blows the mind. I mean,
the fact that we did go to the Moon all
those many years ago.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And ALUs seventies, technology.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And then time and circumstances and events have prevented it.
But now there seems to be this new appetite and
I think this is something the country could really rally around,
something big that we do together. You know, maybe this
is the sort of thing that could help bridge some divides.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, you're right. You know, did it work in the
sixties and seventies, Yeah, apparently it did. I mean after
the Kennedy assassination, Kennedy had promised we would have people
on the Moon by the end of the decade, and yeah,
the country rallied around it, spent the money, had the
will in the initiative, and here we went.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, you concerned me, Jim for a second there, because
you said, this planet's not going to be inhabitable in
the near few and they'll all have to go to
the moon. There's not enough room for everybody. How do
I get my kids on the list in front of
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well maybe you're a great great great great grand that's
down the road. But you know it's the Moon, isn't
the destination. The moon is the jump off point. So
once we're on the Moon then and assuming we find
water there, you need water to sustain life. You can't
keep hauling it up from the Earth. But you can
also make rocket fuel with that from the Moon, it's
off to Mars and it's on out beyond the Solar system.
(05:32):
And so yeah, a million years ago of a million
years from now, who knows what this race is going
to look like.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We'll I'll be moldering in our grapes by then.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm a happy Friday everybody. Thanks a lot, Thank you
very much, Bran. That was really fascinating. ABC News correspondent
in Dallas. I'm sure we'll be talking to you about
that again.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I'm not moldering someone.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, I hope you're not moldering anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Thanks again, Jim, moldering, that's a pretty good word.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's a good SAT word. I don't think I know it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You can get context will give you the answer.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So you become moldy? Is that?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, the verb form of getting moldy.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. Well, thanks for that, beautiful thought.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That was really a nice way to end at the
interview with Jim story. You know what, I know, we're
coming up on Jim Burrelly, so I wanted to talk
about Joe Burrelly.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Joe Jim doesn't matter. It's one of the Brelly.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Brothers, the famous we are We're gonna be talking to him.
I think it's fascinating. I don't know if you saw
the last press conference with Mayor Adams, but the way
he embraced Tom Holman, the way he embraced uh Donald
Trump romance fascinating to me. Saying all the right things
(07:03):
about the immigrant crisis and the rediction
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