July 1, 2025 • 8 mins
Joe Bartlett speaks with Mendte in the Morning about Zohran Mamdani and the way in which he was able to gather enough support to win the Democratic primary for NYC Mayor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We really don't know what happened to Joe Bartlett when
he went to South Carolina. My my theory still is
that he didn't want to pay for cable and he
just got MSNBC. But he's certainly his mind has changed
on several different things. And that's why Joe and I
heard you laugh in the background. Welcome. I'm glad to
talk to you today because I'm fascinated by this. The
(00:22):
whole country is talking about Zorin Mom Donnie and his
his shocking win in New York. He's an avowed socialist,
and I how do you feel about him? I really
don't know what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I don't know that I could pull a lever
for him. I don't know that I could pull the
lever for Cmo. Adams has not really done anything. You know,
it's not a very good choice. But you know, I
think the point here is it's easy to dismiss zorn Mom,
Mom Donnie, Donne, Mom, Donnie, Yeah, yeah, communist, lunatic. But
(01:01):
I think and you may agree with this, he has
tapped into a growing feeling of resentment among the voters
of the city and the country. I basically billionaires are
running this thing right now and the little guy is
getting passed over. And you know, maybe not necessarily communism,
(01:23):
but a popular movement I think is underway, and he's
tapped into something. The other thing, too, is he shows
that the political system has been corrupted by money. In
my opinion, this is one of my big issues here.
Big business, insurance, pharmaceutical, tech, unions, oil, all these guys
(01:46):
donate to the politicians and they get their way. The
little guy is left out of the equation. And I
think Mom, Donnie has tapped into some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, you took it bigger that I think what he
tapped into, although I do agree with everything you said,
but what he tapped into was something more basic. And
by the way, Donald Trump tapped into this too, and
that was affordability, the fact that people can't afford things
that they used to be able to afford in the past,
and they were struggling. And as they watch this income
(02:15):
disparity in this country, they wonder why so many people
seem to be doing well when they're not doing well.
So I agree with you, he did tap into that.
But right now his base of support are these young democrats.
I'm not sure that's going to be enough in the
general election. And he certainly is a flawed candidate, seriously flawed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, we've elected seriously flawed candidates in the past, haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
We not an anti semite and and well.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, okay, look at we got a sexual abuser, we
got a crook. You know, so the choices are not good.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The one thing here, those last two things don't necessarily
lose you votes anti semitiss issue.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Votes, yeah, especially in New York City. But the other
thing too here is ordinarily in the past, when you
won the Democratic primary for mayor, you were elected, it
was over. So fortunately for New Yorkers, they do have
another round to go through. So it will be interesting
to see how it plays out. Now. Is Cuomo in
(03:25):
or out? I've lost track of him. Is he in
or out?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's a really fascinating question. So we believe he's in.
He hasn't made an official announcement yet, but he had
till Friday to decide whether he was going to be
off the line, and the line is still up, so
someone had to say he was staying in. Now, he
obviously can still say I'm not going to run and
be on the line. But as of right now it's
(03:51):
being reported and assumed he's in Natalie. Yeah, and today
I believe the ranked choice voting numbers come out, so
I think this was the day that they were waiting
to see how it all. Yeah, he did say that
many times he wanted to see the numbers, but he
also wanted to see their research on this as well.
So maybe he's still not going to run. But it's
(04:12):
interesting he's on the line, and so it's a good question.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well, the question is, then, does Cuomo's appearance on the
ballot help Mam Donni? I think it does.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well, it's interesting there's a poll out on that. There
is a poll out on that, and I found it
fascinating as well that when you're right, Mom, Donni wins
if foremost not on the ballot, but if Cuomo is
in the ballot, it's tied between him and Cuomo because
a lot of people that voted. You know, with a
small number of people voting in the primary, it's easy
(04:46):
if you have an energized force of young people coming
out to vote. It's a lot harder when you have
independence and older people voting, which happens in the general election.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Don't you agree, Yes, Obviously more people come out. There's
a broader spectrum of voters in the general election than
in primaries. But the voter turnout traditionally has not been
very large in New York City. So you you know,
you're getting just a small percentage of the population voting here.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But that's going to change. But hold on that that's
going to change in this election. This is a competitive election.
There will be a there'll be a higher voter turnout,
don't you think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, But you have to wonder the energized portion of
the vote is probably going to be the people who
are disaffected by the system. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I look at the Democratic primaries in the past have
had there haven't been enough people voting, So that plays
into your theory that it may not go over to
the general election. I think there's so much excitement about
this election and the fact that it's probably the most
exciting election may oral election that New York has had
in decades. I don't know how far you have to
(05:55):
go back. I think there's going to be a big
turnout this time. And when I say big, I mean
forty fifty percent, not you know, it's not gonna be
eighty percent. But I think there's gonna be a big
turnout this time, because I think, especially when the money
comes into this, as you talked about before, there's gonna
be a lot of bad ads about Zora and Mom Donnie,
and it's not gonna be enough just walking the streets
(06:17):
and lying about how you're gonna get the money.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, look, I don't think this guy is a true socialist.
I think he you know, he's tapping into a popular movement.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Maybe if you can only see Larry's face right now,
he says he's a socialist. He comes out and says,
I'm a socialist. There's many people that think he's a communist.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, well, all right, all right, maybe he is. I
don't know, but look, I find it very interesting and
I'm glad I'm not living in New York City right now.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Somebody just texted me and said, what happened to Joe Bartlett?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Is this really Joe? Or is this Ai? No?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think I actually going to the fen Joe here,
because I think a lot of the things he said
were actually great political analysis that that he's right about,
except for the fact that he wasn't a socialist. I
was with you until you said that everything else you
said about the voters that are going to come out
and the reasons are going to come out, and what
he did and what he tapped into. All of that's true,
(07:19):
but he's plain lying. He can't get this money.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I am somewhere between Mandami and Trump today. Okay, that's
where me and Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You've been living there for a while now, in the
in this strange I would think that if you're going
down to where you live now, there's more conservatives there
than Republicans, aren't there? Well excuse me, Yeah, the whole.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The whole state is clearly a Republican state. It's definitely.
It's as right as you can get here. It's it's
interesting because there is a split. I mean, I was
at a party the other day. Most of the people
there were liberals, you know, want to go to the
golf course I got. There's some Trump guys, there's some
Trump haters. It's it's interesting. There's a there's a good
split where I am here. I'm in the southern part
(08:07):
of the Hilton Head area.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So so I know what you're hanging out with now.
Thanks a lot, Joe, look forward to talking to you
next week. They call it here I get to say
he later
We really don't know what happened to Joe Bartlett when
he went to South Carolina. My my theory still is
that he didn't want to pay for cable and he
just got MSNBC. But he's certainly his mind has changed
on several different things. And that's why Joe and I
heard you laugh in the background. Welcome. I'm glad to
talk to you today because I'm fascinated by this. The
(00:22):
whole country is talking about Zorin Mom Donnie and his
his shocking win in New York. He's an avowed socialist,
and I how do you feel about him? I really
don't know what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I don't know that I could pull a lever
for him. I don't know that I could pull the
lever for Cmo. Adams has not really done anything. You know,
it's not a very good choice. But you know, I
think the point here is it's easy to dismiss zorn Mom,
Mom Donnie, Donne, Mom, Donnie, Yeah, yeah, communist, lunatic. But
(01:01):
I think and you may agree with this, he has
tapped into a growing feeling of resentment among the voters
of the city and the country. I basically billionaires are
running this thing right now and the little guy is
getting passed over. And you know, maybe not necessarily communism,
(01:23):
but a popular movement I think is underway, and he's
tapped into something. The other thing, too, is he shows
that the political system has been corrupted by money. In
my opinion, this is one of my big issues here.
Big business, insurance, pharmaceutical, tech, unions, oil, all these guys
(01:46):
donate to the politicians and they get their way. The
little guy is left out of the equation. And I
think Mom, Donnie has tapped into some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, you took it bigger that I think what he
tapped into, although I do agree with everything you said,
but what he tapped into was something more basic. And
by the way, Donald Trump tapped into this too, and
that was affordability, the fact that people can't afford things
that they used to be able to afford in the past,
and they were struggling. And as they watch this income
(02:15):
disparity in this country, they wonder why so many people
seem to be doing well when they're not doing well.
So I agree with you, he did tap into that.
But right now his base of support are these young democrats.
I'm not sure that's going to be enough in the
general election. And he certainly is a flawed candidate, seriously flawed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, we've elected seriously flawed candidates in the past, haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
We not an anti semite and and well.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, okay, look at we got a sexual abuser, we
got a crook. You know, so the choices are not good.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The one thing here, those last two things don't necessarily
lose you votes anti semitiss issue.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Votes, yeah, especially in New York City. But the other
thing too here is ordinarily in the past, when you
won the Democratic primary for mayor, you were elected, it
was over. So fortunately for New Yorkers, they do have
another round to go through. So it will be interesting
to see how it plays out. Now. Is Cuomo in
(03:25):
or out? I've lost track of him. Is he in
or out?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's a really fascinating question. So we believe he's in.
He hasn't made an official announcement yet, but he had
till Friday to decide whether he was going to be
off the line, and the line is still up, so
someone had to say he was staying in. Now, he
obviously can still say I'm not going to run and
be on the line. But as of right now it's
(03:51):
being reported and assumed he's in Natalie. Yeah, and today
I believe the ranked choice voting numbers come out, so
I think this was the day that they were waiting
to see how it all. Yeah, he did say that
many times he wanted to see the numbers, but he
also wanted to see their research on this as well.
So maybe he's still not going to run. But it's
(04:12):
interesting he's on the line, and so it's a good question.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well, the question is, then, does Cuomo's appearance on the
ballot help Mam Donni? I think it does.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well, it's interesting there's a poll out on that. There
is a poll out on that, and I found it
fascinating as well that when you're right, Mom, Donni wins
if foremost not on the ballot, but if Cuomo is
in the ballot, it's tied between him and Cuomo because
a lot of people that voted. You know, with a
small number of people voting in the primary, it's easy
(04:46):
if you have an energized force of young people coming
out to vote. It's a lot harder when you have
independence and older people voting, which happens in the general election.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Don't you agree, Yes, Obviously more people come out. There's
a broader spectrum of voters in the general election than
in primaries. But the voter turnout traditionally has not been
very large in New York City. So you you know,
you're getting just a small percentage of the population voting here.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But that's going to change. But hold on that that's
going to change in this election. This is a competitive election.
There will be a there'll be a higher voter turnout,
don't you think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, But you have to wonder the energized portion of
the vote is probably going to be the people who
are disaffected by the system. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I look at the Democratic primaries in the past have
had there haven't been enough people voting, So that plays
into your theory that it may not go over to
the general election. I think there's so much excitement about
this election and the fact that it's probably the most
exciting election may oral election that New York has had
in decades. I don't know how far you have to
(05:55):
go back. I think there's going to be a big
turnout this time. And when I say big, I mean
forty fifty percent, not you know, it's not gonna be
eighty percent. But I think there's gonna be a big
turnout this time, because I think, especially when the money
comes into this, as you talked about before, there's gonna
be a lot of bad ads about Zora and Mom Donnie,
and it's not gonna be enough just walking the streets
(06:17):
and lying about how you're gonna get the money.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, look, I don't think this guy is a true socialist.
I think he you know, he's tapping into a popular movement.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Maybe if you can only see Larry's face right now,
he says he's a socialist. He comes out and says,
I'm a socialist. There's many people that think he's a communist.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, well, all right, all right, maybe he is. I
don't know, but look, I find it very interesting and
I'm glad I'm not living in New York City right now.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Somebody just texted me and said, what happened to Joe Bartlett?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Is this really Joe? Or is this Ai? No?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think I actually going to the fen Joe here,
because I think a lot of the things he said
were actually great political analysis that that he's right about,
except for the fact that he wasn't a socialist. I
was with you until you said that everything else you
said about the voters that are going to come out
and the reasons are going to come out, and what
he did and what he tapped into. All of that's true,
(07:19):
but he's plain lying. He can't get this money.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I am somewhere between Mandami and Trump today. Okay, that's
where me and Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You've been living there for a while now, in the
in this strange I would think that if you're going
down to where you live now, there's more conservatives there
than Republicans, aren't there? Well excuse me, Yeah, the whole.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The whole state is clearly a Republican state. It's definitely.
It's as right as you can get here. It's it's
interesting because there is a split. I mean, I was
at a party the other day. Most of the people
there were liberals, you know, want to go to the
golf course I got. There's some Trump guys, there's some
Trump haters. It's it's interesting. There's a there's a good
split where I am here. I'm in the southern part
(08:07):
of the Hilton Head area.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So so I know what you're hanging out with now.
Thanks a lot, Joe, look forward to talking to you
next week. They call it here I get to say
he later
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