December 6, 2024 • 8 mins
The WOR Morning Show talks to Joe Borelli about the migrant crisis in NYC. Joe discusses NYC Mayor Eric Adams current stance on migrants in NYC and what he wants to do once Donald Trump gets in to office.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joe Borelli is the minority leader of the New York
City Council from Staten Island. Joe, I'm sure you heard
or saw what Mayor Adams said. What do you make
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Look, I think it's a step in the right direction.
You know, we've obviously been critical of Mayor Adams throughout
the migrant crisis that was self inflicted, something that he
voluntarily went into and certainly led the charge as the
leading Democrat of the largest city in America. I mean,
so anytime you have someone changing their tune, I'm open
(00:34):
to it, and I'm glad he's meeting with Tom Hogan.
We actually have a meeting with Tom Hogan ourselves that
same day with our Bipartisan Common Sense Caucus, because we
want to figure out a way to actually begin removing
people who are here, not just here illegally, but who
are committing crimes or have been convicted of crimes in
their whole country. We used to have a system where
(00:56):
people who wanted to come here would be vettited, and
if they were accused of a crime or they were
previously convicted, there's a good chance they wouldn't be left
in That's all we're asking for just go back to before,
you know, before the Trump derangement syndrome took over the
Democratic Party in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, and go
(01:17):
back to a time where we did have immigration, but
we had regulated immigration and a better system.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know, that's such a good point. And I you know,
pre Trump, we had Obama and there was a record
number of deportations under President Obama that a lot of
people don't even talk about. So, but what I'm curious
to know, just from your point of view, we're seeing,
you know, I think I think Mayor Adams has sort
of hinted about how he feels. He's kind of suggested
(01:45):
to Albany into Washington that he needs help from his
fellow Democrats, that help to deal with the migrant crisis,
that help was not forthcoming. What do you make of
his sort of playing foot seet under the table with Trump,
as I joke, as sort of a brewing romance. What
do you make of that? Politically, visavi Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Look, and by the way, Lauria, you're right, I mean
they called Obama the deporter in chief.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
When he was president, and the Progressors were angry, very
angry and.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Because you know, to some degree he was doing the
right thing. He was deporting people who were here committing
crimes and doing bad stuff. That's fine. But to your
point about Mayor Adams, I don't think he's playing foot sea.
I think he's trying to just be cooperative with a
federal government that's offering him a lifeline to solve a
real problem faced by New Yorkers. You know, we have
polling and now we have election results showing that people
(02:35):
are just sick and tired of this crisis. Even if
you thought this was a good idea in the beginning
when there was five thousand people, and ten thousand people
and fifteen thousand people, when you got to the point
where you saw two hundred and now fifty thousand people
who come through our system, another seventy are still in
the system, and we're seeing the upticks and crime, and
(02:56):
we're seeing the downstream quality of life consequences. People are
just so if someone's throwing you a lifeline, in this case,
President Trump, I'm home and and everyone in between. I
think Mayor Adams is right to try to take up
that mantle. I'm trying to put pressure on him to
find a way to end around our sanctuary city law
because it's not fair that we can't cooperate with ICE.
(03:18):
I mean, think, think about it. Imagine the city Council saying,
you know, NYPD is not going to cooperate with the
FBI on the mafia. The only people who would gain
from that are the mafia. Right in the same thing,
if we're not cooperating on Trend or Raguai or anyone else,
the only people who benefit from that are the gang
members and the criminals.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And guess who's hurt by those gangs. It's other immigrants
for the most.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Part, one hundred percent. It's the same community and fairness
I point stipulated, right, most of these folks are coming
here for the right intention. I get it. But there's
bad apples in that bunch, and they're poisoning in the
well and they're probably making it harder for some compromise
to come down the road.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the important thing is, though, Laura and Joe, is
it's not just other immigrants. Because the NYP came out
and said seventy five percent of the crimes in Midtown
Manhattan are committed by those who are here illegally. That
many seventy five percent of the tourists. Remember that it
(04:20):
was that gang of juveniles Joe that was trying to
impress Trend de Arragua. And even when they're arrested, because
they're juveniles, nobody could know who they are and they
couldn't take their immigration status. So I just don't understand
this is there. I know, the last time we talked,
you talked about a group in city Council that wasn't
(04:41):
big enough to do some common sense policies when it
comes to sanctuary cities. Is it growing at this point
or are you stuck at a number?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No. Look, you know the elections or council will come
around every four years, so it's tough to grow in
the short term. But we went from two Republicans in
addition to me when I first started in the council
ten years ago. So now we have six Republicans and
three Democrats who conference with us in this common sense caucus.
So we've trippled our numbers in four years. It's still
(05:12):
not enough we need, really, I mean, if we're being honest,
we need non partisan elections in New York City for
a public office, for municipal offices. That's how most cities
in America, basically except for US in Philadelphia, most cities
have non partisan elections and it forces, or rather it
allows the public to vote beyond just you know, for
(05:33):
people who are the most progressive and most woke who
can win a Democratic primary. It opens up the process
to blanks and independents and Republicans, and you get a
more balanced government, and you get a government that's more
accountable to the actual people who care about the potholes,
who care about public safety, who care about the how
their garbage is taken out.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know, Joe, I think that's a really interesting idea.
I hadn't heard that about New York City. In Nasa County,
our villain elections are not Republican and Democrat. It's just
you know, like the Home Rule Party or that, you know,
they make up some name, but it's not so partisan.
And maybe people can see beyond party and vote for
the issues and the common sense solutions that could be
(06:15):
a big help towards New York City succeeding.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean at Fearela Wardy, right, there's no Republican
or Democratic way to take out the trash. And that's
why so many cities have adopted this. They've adopted this model,
and they're doing better. You just see cities that are
just more accountable to a broader public. Everyone who talks
about voter turnout and how to enfranchise more voters, non
partisan elections at the municipal level of the way to go.
(06:40):
I am a shameless partisan by the way. I wear
my Republicanism on the sleeve. And if I was in Congress,
I would be having that you know, elephant red banner
that I'd be waiving as fierce as I can, because
in Washington there are two significant ideological differences on how
we government in New York City. Do we want public safety?
(07:02):
Of course, how do we fund the police? It's real practical,
common sense dividing lines that we don't need partisanship.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Municipal government is about infrastructure, It's about running things, It's
about managing a city. It's not about great ideologies.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, no, this has all been about ideologies this administration
and especially since city Council. Yes, but it is. And
Mike and Joe Barelli's fighting the good fight. We talked
to and we're running out of time, but we talked
to Vicky Palladino last week and she was just wonderful.
But she came up with a great idea. She talked
about how small the election turnout is for city council
(07:42):
and how easy it would be to change that, how
easy it would be able to change city council because
you don't need that many people to get out there
and vote. And I'll tell you what, Joe, I'm all in.
I mean, if you know you need our support, I'm
all in and getting to try to change this because
this city council makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're right, She's right. Some races get won by two
thousand votes, one thousand votes. I mean, these are not races.
And again, if we opened it up to everyone registered
to vote, you would see larger turnout and you wouldn't
be as dominated by these leftist advocate groups that really
drive a few hundred votes and actually make a significant impact.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And with that, we gotta go and say it a
Joe Borelli, City council member, minority leader, thanks again, Joe,
and say it ain't so thank you, and say a
Joe Borelli is the minority leader of the New York
City Council from Staten Island. Joe, I'm sure you heard
or saw what Mayor Adams said. What do you make
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Look, I think it's a step in the right direction.
You know, we've obviously been critical of Mayor Adams throughout
the migrant crisis that was self inflicted, something that he
voluntarily went into and certainly led the charge as the
leading Democrat of the largest city in America. I mean,
so anytime you have someone changing their tune, I'm open
(00:34):
to it, and I'm glad he's meeting with Tom Hogan.
We actually have a meeting with Tom Hogan ourselves that
same day with our Bipartisan Common Sense Caucus, because we
want to figure out a way to actually begin removing
people who are here, not just here illegally, but who
are committing crimes or have been convicted of crimes in
their whole country. We used to have a system where
(00:56):
people who wanted to come here would be vettited, and
if they were accused of a crime or they were
previously convicted, there's a good chance they wouldn't be left
in That's all we're asking for just go back to before,
you know, before the Trump derangement syndrome took over the
Democratic Party in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, and go
(01:17):
back to a time where we did have immigration, but
we had regulated immigration and a better system.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know, that's such a good point. And I you know,
pre Trump, we had Obama and there was a record
number of deportations under President Obama that a lot of
people don't even talk about. So, but what I'm curious
to know, just from your point of view, we're seeing,
you know, I think I think Mayor Adams has sort
of hinted about how he feels. He's kind of suggested
(01:45):
to Albany into Washington that he needs help from his
fellow Democrats, that help to deal with the migrant crisis,
that help was not forthcoming. What do you make of
his sort of playing foot seet under the table with Trump,
as I joke, as sort of a brewing romance. What
do you make of that? Politically, visavi Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Look, and by the way, Lauria, you're right, I mean
they called Obama the deporter in chief.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
When he was president, and the Progressors were angry, very
angry and.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Because you know, to some degree he was doing the
right thing. He was deporting people who were here committing
crimes and doing bad stuff. That's fine. But to your
point about Mayor Adams, I don't think he's playing foot sea.
I think he's trying to just be cooperative with a
federal government that's offering him a lifeline to solve a
real problem faced by New Yorkers. You know, we have
polling and now we have election results showing that people
(02:35):
are just sick and tired of this crisis. Even if
you thought this was a good idea in the beginning
when there was five thousand people, and ten thousand people
and fifteen thousand people, when you got to the point
where you saw two hundred and now fifty thousand people
who come through our system, another seventy are still in
the system, and we're seeing the upticks and crime, and
(02:56):
we're seeing the downstream quality of life consequences. People are
just so if someone's throwing you a lifeline, in this case,
President Trump, I'm home and and everyone in between. I
think Mayor Adams is right to try to take up
that mantle. I'm trying to put pressure on him to
find a way to end around our sanctuary city law
because it's not fair that we can't cooperate with ICE.
(03:18):
I mean, think, think about it. Imagine the city Council saying,
you know, NYPD is not going to cooperate with the
FBI on the mafia. The only people who would gain
from that are the mafia. Right in the same thing,
if we're not cooperating on Trend or Raguai or anyone else,
the only people who benefit from that are the gang
members and the criminals.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And guess who's hurt by those gangs. It's other immigrants
for the most.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Part, one hundred percent. It's the same community and fairness
I point stipulated, right, most of these folks are coming
here for the right intention. I get it. But there's
bad apples in that bunch, and they're poisoning in the
well and they're probably making it harder for some compromise
to come down the road.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the important thing is, though, Laura and Joe, is
it's not just other immigrants. Because the NYP came out
and said seventy five percent of the crimes in Midtown
Manhattan are committed by those who are here illegally. That
many seventy five percent of the tourists. Remember that it
(04:20):
was that gang of juveniles Joe that was trying to
impress Trend de Arragua. And even when they're arrested, because
they're juveniles, nobody could know who they are and they
couldn't take their immigration status. So I just don't understand
this is there. I know, the last time we talked,
you talked about a group in city Council that wasn't
(04:41):
big enough to do some common sense policies when it
comes to sanctuary cities. Is it growing at this point
or are you stuck at a number?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No. Look, you know the elections or council will come
around every four years, so it's tough to grow in
the short term. But we went from two Republicans in
addition to me when I first started in the council
ten years ago. So now we have six Republicans and
three Democrats who conference with us in this common sense caucus.
So we've trippled our numbers in four years. It's still
(05:12):
not enough we need, really, I mean, if we're being honest,
we need non partisan elections in New York City for
a public office, for municipal offices. That's how most cities
in America, basically except for US in Philadelphia, most cities
have non partisan elections and it forces, or rather it
allows the public to vote beyond just you know, for
(05:33):
people who are the most progressive and most woke who
can win a Democratic primary. It opens up the process
to blanks and independents and Republicans, and you get a
more balanced government, and you get a government that's more
accountable to the actual people who care about the potholes,
who care about public safety, who care about the how
their garbage is taken out.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know, Joe, I think that's a really interesting idea.
I hadn't heard that about New York City. In Nasa County,
our villain elections are not Republican and Democrat. It's just
you know, like the Home Rule Party or that, you know,
they make up some name, but it's not so partisan.
And maybe people can see beyond party and vote for
the issues and the common sense solutions that could be
(06:15):
a big help towards New York City succeeding.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean at Fearela Wardy, right, there's no Republican
or Democratic way to take out the trash. And that's
why so many cities have adopted this. They've adopted this model,
and they're doing better. You just see cities that are
just more accountable to a broader public. Everyone who talks
about voter turnout and how to enfranchise more voters, non
partisan elections at the municipal level of the way to go.
(06:40):
I am a shameless partisan by the way. I wear
my Republicanism on the sleeve. And if I was in Congress,
I would be having that you know, elephant red banner
that I'd be waiving as fierce as I can, because
in Washington there are two significant ideological differences on how
we government in New York City. Do we want public safety?
(07:02):
Of course, how do we fund the police? It's real practical,
common sense dividing lines that we don't need partisanship.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Municipal government is about infrastructure, It's about running things, It's
about managing a city. It's not about great ideologies.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, no, this has all been about ideologies this administration
and especially since city Council. Yes, but it is. And
Mike and Joe Barelli's fighting the good fight. We talked
to and we're running out of time, but we talked
to Vicky Palladino last week and she was just wonderful.
But she came up with a great idea. She talked
about how small the election turnout is for city council
(07:42):
and how easy it would be to change that, how
easy it would be able to change city council because
you don't need that many people to get out there
and vote. And I'll tell you what, Joe, I'm all in.
I mean, if you know you need our support, I'm
all in and getting to try to change this because
this city council makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're right, She's right. Some races get won by two
thousand votes, one thousand votes. I mean, these are not races.
And again, if we opened it up to everyone registered
to vote, you would see larger turnout and you wouldn't
be as dominated by these leftist advocate groups that really
drive a few hundred votes and actually make a significant impact.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And with that, we gotta go and say it a
Joe Borelli, City council member, minority leader, thanks again, Joe,
and say it ain't so thank you, and say a
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