June 9, 2026 • 48 mins
Rich talks with Scott Blass, Mike Anthony, and Tom Gaudino about this year's Bordas & Bordas Amateur Golf Classic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Rich Knwall Golf Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I wanted to We're going to spend the next forty
about fifty two minutes talking about one of the absolute
best amateur tournaments in not only in West Virginia, but
I would say western Pennsylvania, Ohio. I'm quite sure it's
probably reached into Virginia as well, but I think we're
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going to kind of focus on West Virginia. I know
we're going to focus on West Virginia, but also western
Pennsylvania and Ohio. And that is the Borders and Borders event.
The Borders and Borders has been going on for all
the way back to the nineteen twenties. It's one of
the longest running amateur tournaments in West Virginia, maybe even
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be the longest. So I'm gonna get corrected here in
a minute over that. But we are joined by three
folks today. Scott Blast is a member of the Borders
and Borders team, Mike Anthony is media relations for the
Boredis and Bortis event, and Tom Goodino is the tournament director.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So, gentlemen, thank you all for joining me today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Thanks for having us ro I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You bet so.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Tom I'm gonna start with you since you're the tournament director,
how or anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Who wants to jump in.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I want to talk about the history of the event,
So tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The tournament's been going on. It had different sponsors over
the years. It first started out as the High Valley Amateur.
A lot of people still know it as the Bernharts,
which ran it for well over fifty some years. After
Bernharts went out of business, we were very fortunate to
have some other sponsors jump in and for the last
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number of years Bordis and Boredis has been a major,
major sponsor of this and has actually been a better
sponsor than any of the others we've had in the past.
So the history has been, you know, a long time.
There are people that still call it the Bernhardt because
it ran for so so long, But we are very
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honored to have Boredis and Boreders who has stepped up
and made it a bigger event than we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right, And so it dates all the way back to
the Ohio Valley Ameter, which would have been it is
the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Correct, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It might have been early thirties. I don't think it
was in the twenties because the golf course opened in
nineteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, So the golf course, right, the original golf course
that would have been played on would have been Crispin.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Correct, that is where it is played correct.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right, exactly. That's that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Then Crispin is named after mister Ogleby's son, correct.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, okay, good and.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The history guy, I'm a weird history guy, so that's
that's yeah. So not many people know that mister Ogleby's
sun was named and that's why the golf course is
named Chrispin.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's correct. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And and it runs consistently since then, other than during
World War two.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right, world War two?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Right, and I think we probably all should have taken
a break doing World War two.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And so.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So then the other thing is, here's the oddly, the
weirdly historical thing I know, is that mister Ogleby was
also a He was in charge of a lot of shipping,
shipping things correct, like ships and and and water travel right,
water freight.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, it was actually his grandson that actually started Ogleby
Norton that people, if you hit hisstory, fact that actually
owned the Edmond Fitzgerald was written about it sounds I
think that was part of the Ogleby. Uh that's the
same golf course where we play.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
At right, right Edmundphis Sheldon superior By And yeah, the
reckor of the Van Fitzgerald. Yeah, so that is as
it's the older I get, the smaller the world gets.
I'm telling you, all right, so all the way back
to let's say the thirties, because obviously we just determined
that it was But and we know the other names
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for the event. But I know that you've had Ohio
Valley famous winners. And I know that for a fact
because I've actually read some of the winners of the event.
But like and so, and it's obviously an amateur tournament.
I mean that's I want to make that perfectly clear.
There's nothing to do with the West Virginia Open or
the you know, the Pennsylvania Open or the Ohio Open.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It it's an amateur tournament.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So it's been going on for well, let's see, almost
one hundred years. So let's can do you guys have
any any famous names.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That we would all know because throughout West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well here's the thing we were just talking about that
a few minutes ago. This is not somebody that actually
won the tournament, but back in nineteen sixty two, a
gentleman by the name of Tom Tom Wisecough actually played
in the tournament, but he did not win. Starts playing
at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Because he's actually from Western Pennsylvania. Tom Weiscoff was born
in Western Pennsylvania, and he did play.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He chased, he chased, not chased, but he followed.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He was young, he's younger. He's actually not alive anymore.
He's passed away. But he came a little bit later
than Nicholas to Jack Nicholas to Ohio State. He was
also part of that continued run at Ohio State that
continues through this day. But Wisecough, John Cook, you know
along those Yeah, so Wisecouse, that's that's a that's actually
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a great name.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's a great name.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And I will tell you guys this, I was a
very very small child in nineteen seventy eight at the
PGA at Oakmont and to this day, to this day,
I've seen a lot of people, had a lot of
golf shots in my life, and to this day, the
t shot Tom wisecof hit that day is the best
t shot I've ever seen in my life. I was
about seven years old. I still to this day think
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that ball's in the air. I think it's still in
the air. I mean, because I swear to God he
killed that thing.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So all right, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's not a winner, But tell me tell me some
other famous names that have rolled through this event.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I'm gonna my candle that because he's got the whole
list of all the winners that and he's done more
research than I had.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, what do you got from him?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Well, Richard, mean, it's a little hard to top time
Tom Whitskoff the targe to believe that Sam Snead never
made an appearance in this thing way back. I think
it was a profession.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Was he a kid, Well, I'll tell you he was born.
He was so he was born in nineteen twelve. So
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And this is interesting now that you guys, now as
you guys say this, see see nineteen twelve. Hogan, Sneid,
and Nelson were all born the same year in nineteen twelve,
and Snead was turned professional immediately as soon as he could.
Matter of fact, he played in the nineteen thirty seven
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Centennial Open at Wheeling Country Club as a professional, so
he was only twenty well, you guys can do them.
He was twenty five, twenty four to twenty five years old,
so he didn't. He came out of southern down by
the Greenbrier obviously as you guys know, and actually White
Sulfur Springs, Virginia.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He turned professional as soon as he could. So that's
why he would never have made an appearance in this event, especially.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Back then, because the lines were not anywhere near blurred
between professional and amateur, like nowhere near it. Like if
you were professional, you didn't you were actually looked down upon.
But so that's why he wouldn't have made an appearance.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
An interesting thing in that probably same open at Wheeling
Country Club in nineteen thirty seven, the participants would have
been Bob Berry. It was the designer of the golf course.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bob Berry was the first PGA professional I believe in
West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And yes he was, he was the designer, and yes
he's a he was.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He was.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They have that event and I can I will say
this on the radio. I actually have a very big
framed photo of the nineteen thirty seven Centennial Open in Wheeling.
Don't tell anybody. I have it, but I have it,
and it has it has many many, many famous people
in it. And interestingly enough that I know it's not
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about this event, but that say that Centennial Open was
the one hundredth anniversary of the founding of Wheeling, and
so that's say that two week period they had a
professional tennis tournament, a regatta, and a PGA Tour event,
all in two weeks, all in about twelve days, actually, Shelton, Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Darn proud of them. We're pretty proud of the prestige
of this event. You know, it's it's a long running event.
It's a chrispin it's a lot shorter course than the
other courses at O will Bee. We always cast a
player friendly course. A lot of birdies to be made
on that back nine coming in, which always makes it exciting.
And uh, we've certainly had our number of great players
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over the years. We've got records back into the forties
and fifties through now of winners. And one man has
won six of these tournaments and he no longer plays
competitive golf because he's lost some fingers in a grinding accident.
Guy by the name of Terry du Boys he's a
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Western Ta guy. I'm six time champion of the Borders
and Borders Amateur Golf Classic. Of course it wasn't named
that when he won, but Evans eight ninety four, ninety six,
ninety eight and two thousand, so he won in three
different decades and then had an unfortunate accident with a
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meat writer and he cut his career short playing. But
we have a six time champion and some other guys
that won five times, including a gentleman by the name
of Evo Petree. He that's forties and fifties. We're going
way back there, and Fred Jefferson who won in the
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fifties and sixties, and a guy named Ernie Hoffer won
in sixty two, the year we think that Wiskaugh would
have been here. And there's some other old timers like FOLLYD.
Schuler who is still playing in the Borders and Bornis
Amateur Golf Classic and he won it in eighty one
and eighty four. So we like our history of this event,
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and we respect our elders who came be Forest and
paved the way for this event, and uh, we certainly
like to express their names.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, I can appreciate that Floyd Floyd actually, Floyd actually
is a great guy. You know, when I was spending
time in Wheeling because as you guys know or maybe
don't know, I was the head professional wheeling country club
until we closed. But absolutely, but Floyd Floyd was always, always,
always just awesome to me, and and and really and
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and he's awesome to everybody. But Floyd's Floyd's a class act.
That's that's great that you brought him up, because I
had kind of half forgotten that name. And he's a
really good player, really good player, really good teacher. You
don't realize how good of a teacher he is too,
So so that's that's pretty cool. And how crazy is
it that that Floyd wins in the eighties and we
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think that's millions of years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That feels like millions of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'm like, okay, like who decided the eighties were millions
of years ago? Because I still think that sant Nolmo's
Fire came out last week. I think it mighty came
out last week.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So how many?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Obviously you mentioned a couple of different different sponsors, uh,
And I understand that the that that and we're going
to talk a little bit more in the next segment
about how involved Bortis and Borders is. But why do
you just kind of a gut answer here, Why do
you think it's so important this event is so important
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to the golf landscape in the Greater Ohio Valley.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Well, let Scott last handle that one. Well, the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The tournament itself is important because it is, as you said, Uh,
some people have told me it's the longest consecutive running
two day ameter event east of the Mississippi, short of
the US Amateur. Uh So, as you guys have been discussing,
you're going a long time back in history. But what
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it supports is the most important. And in the last
eight years, this is the ninth year that our firm,
Borders and Borders has sponsored this event, and for the
last eight years we've been able to raise ten thousand
a year to donate to the Access to the Parks
program that's administered by the Ogbie Foundation. Only if you're
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familiar with that rich but it's a tremendous program. Obviously,
it provides indigent children and their families access to the
parks for free for all the amenities up there at
Ogilby from swimming, the golfing to fishing, you name it,
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and it's an outstanding program. And this will be our
ninth year, so that that will be that organization will
be the benefactor of our effort. And it's not just
that organization though, because this tournament has historically been run
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by the ogbe Park Golf Club that Tom is a
member of and that's why he is the tournament director,
and the OGI Park Golf Club supports amateur golf and
golf generally at Ogiby. I think Tom can talk about
some of the things that the club has done for
Ogleby that just helps keep that machine running good.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Tom, Yeah, it's you know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Part of this does support the golf club itself and
so all everything we do, probably all of it what happened,
what comes from this tournament.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But for example, last year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
The golf club provided over five thousand dollars to the
junior golf program at Ogubley Park, which I think is
important for the juniors. We also helped the park with
equipment like benchpack machines, burder crat machines, very of things
that they need that maybe they don't have budgeted in
the year but would help them significantly, so we help
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with that and we also work with them. They bring
us projects that they would like us a partner with
them on. So this also supports a lot of stuff
that goes on.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
It's a golf.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Courses, golf courses at obb so it is it is
also part of that.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Also, it's not just I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It is great that we support the Ogbie Foundation and
the access for the kids, but it also a golfer
coming out Flamings event is also helping keep the ogleb
Bark golf courses above and beyond what they normally would do.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's a perfect spot to stop right now for this
segment because I want to jump right back into how
great this facility, this event is in helping not only
the community of Wheeling and the surrounding area, but the
actual golf courses at Ogleby. This is the Rich Golf Show.
Welcome back to the Rich Comboll Golf Show. I'm very
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fortunate to be joined by three gentlemen this week. Tom Godino,
who's the tournament director, Mike Anthony whose media relations and
Scott blast who is a member of the Borders and
boardist team. And we were talking about the Bordis and
Bortist Amateur Golf Classic.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And this is just we we just tapped.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Into just how great of an event this is and
and they they said something or we we mentioned something
in the in the first segment. I want I want
to dive back into it. Tell me, guys, tell me
more about how much this event helps junior golf.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well, the one thing it does is it's part of
the tournament itself. We encourage juniors to play in the event.
They pay a minimal fee. Uh in order to play,
they are connor with a winners given a trophy and
so on and so forth. So juniors can play in
this event for probably less than it costs us to
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actually have them there. So it's very economical for them
to play. We encourage juniors to play.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And as we mentioned before, you know the golf club
money that comes into the golf club does support junior golf,
not only financially, but the junior golf program at Obibe.
A number of our members volunteer with Kevin Ecker, who
handles the program for Obibe, volunteers with them during that program.
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So you know, our people not only provide some money,
they also actually go out and use their time to
help support the UNI involved.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, that's awesome. So it's interesting because I know I
mentioned the.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
First team program, which is a USGA United States Golf
Association program.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But the junior program that the.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Other side of that piece of bread, if you want
to put it that way, is is the the Ogilby
Junior Golf Junior Golf program.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So how many how many kids are in that? I
know you don't have an exact number, but but there
are a ton of kids in that, correct.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
There is, And it's by age group. I mean, they
don't throw all the kids together, and I think it
starts as young as five, you know, so they have
might have like five to seven, seven.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
To nine, so on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So the kids that are there are by age group,
and they're not with older kids where they feel like
they're you know, being overshadows, so on and so forth.
It's boys and girls. Uh, it's yeah, So it's I
don't know the number, but it's a large number of
children that's become.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Part of that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's interesting you say that because I actually just obviously
recently i've you know, I'm I'm at Perkersburg Country Club
now and I started a junior, then start it. But
I try to maximize the junior program or expand a
junior program, and I do it by age group and
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things like that. I have one hundred and six, one
hundred and four kids in the junior program. We start
next Tuesday, So I know what an awesome undertaking that is.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I have to tell you that that is.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That is such a I guess maybe eyes on the
prize kind of thing with because it's easy to overlook,
you know, how golf can be a benefit to the young.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
People in the area, because in your area, in my area,
in all areas.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because it's interesting. I always say there's a lot worse
places for kids to be in the world today than
a golf course or a basketball court referee basketball in
the winter, So I just use that. But but yeah,
I mean there's a lot worse places for kids to
be than a golf course. And I think I just
think it's awesome that that actually, this is a big
this event is a big support for that. So and
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then I also and have moving past that, I do
want to spend a few more minutes talking about the
access to the Parks program that the Borders and BORDERUS
has done for would you say, eight or nine years?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right, Yes, this will be our ninth year, and each
of the past eight years we've been able to raise
sufficient funds to make a ten thousand dollars donation per
year to the Ogwi Foundation that is earmarked specifically for
the Access to the Parks program. And as we were discussing,
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that program is such a tremendous asset for the parks
system to allow folks who otherwise wouldn't be able to
enjoy all the activities at the park pre access for
children and their families, and we have consistently had the
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foundation as the recipient of the proceeds because we're just
so impressed with how that operation is handled by the
foundation and the services it provides those folks here in
the valley who might otherwise not be in a position
to enjoy all of the things that we take.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
For brain and everything.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's that's really cool that you say it that way,
because it is difficult to realize but wrap your head
around the fact all that Ogilby offers and I realized,
you know, we're talking about golf tournament. But you know,
for nine years, you guys have given that the event
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has created ninety eighty thousand, ninety thousand dollars in money
that is earmar for people to enjoy the park. And
the park does have fishing, it has just walking trails,
it has you know, has.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
A zoo, as West Virginia is only zoo in it,
you know. And and it's it's really really.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Really cool that all the activity that that goes on
at that park that you are you are extending that
to families through the borders and borders. I think that
is such a tremendous message to the Greater Ohio Valley
that you guys do that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I just tell you how impressive that is.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I would like to even comment further this might on
Ogilby and the money that they have put into their
park system to really enhance the pleasure it it will be.
They've spent millions of dollars recently for upgrades at the
lodge and the streets and the golf courses, and it
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really gives more access. There's a there's a rock landing wall,
there's the lake, there's the aerial challenge course. There's se
many more things to do now that there ever was.
And access to the parks always also spreads to Wheeling
Park the sister part of Oglebe and that lake can
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be utilized, the putt putt can be utilized, ice skating
is utilized in the winter time there, and of course
a nine hole golf.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Course as well, and indoor tennis. So it's countless.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Activities even you know, even though you didn't grow up
around here, all three of us are a bit from
around here, and Ogleby has really gone up tremendously and
more things to do for kids. And that's why I
think we like access to the parks because there's so
much more going on up there now and it's always
nice to hear the hustle and the bustle of kids
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playing in the pool or in the soccer fields or
on the trails or anywhere else. It just feels like
it's summertime at.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, And I think I agree with you, And I
think the other thing is with that is is as
like I said before me, but it does so much
good for the community, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's just it's just such a.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I've and obviously I spent many many many hours,
you know, on right next to your property, and I
know I don't obviously have an understanding of all that
goes on there.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But I just think it is such a.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Neat story that what people in that community can do
at that park, and and and families that you are mentioning,
you know, for the last nine years have have got
have received access to the park is and I would
and I don't say this lightly.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't say this lightly.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It is potentially it is actually not potentially, it is
life changing activities because you start to find out that
that families are spending time together and on the on
on in the park, that that actually that they would
not be able to do without the borders and borders,
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it's literally that's a fact of the case, correct.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Absolutely, And the zoo Rich is going through a huge
overhaul right now. The road going into the zoo is
one lane because they're putting this huge lion exhibit and
habitat in there, and they added onto the zoo. It's
it's going to be really, really big.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And they're redoing the.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Entrance to the zoo.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So the zoo is getting a huge face lift.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
And it's X amount of numbers of a phase of
projects they've done. You know, did the lodge. They flattened
the front of the lodge parking lot, they added all
kinds of new restaurants. They've done so many improvements to
the White Palace really parked, and the zoo will be done,
I would think in a few more months, but I
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don't that you've been here since that, and it's really
going to enhance that part of the park, the zoo,
and of course that's a huge attraction for kids, and
they're getting more animals and it's gonna be really nice
when that being but thin in the fall, Well.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's awesome, and but I do have to ask you
did you guys, did they.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Lion's gonna be on my former driving range, because
I swear if that's the case. You know, if I had,
if I had known, if I had known that was
going to happen, you know, I would like filmed myself
more there because I could be like, you know, the
lion tamer.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I could have been that. I could have said, look
there's a lie and I stood there, see like that
was me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like you know, I could have done that. See all
you guys had to do is tell me that and
I would have filmed it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So the lion, the lions are going The lion is
going back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Into into Willing Country Club's property, right, I mean that
that the zoo is extending into that correct.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think
you could probably get an iron from that drive and
range into the lands dead maybe my guest, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's so.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And again, if we could have just filmed it, so
you guys had to tell me this stuff was going on,
you know, and I can I could, well, I could,
I could get into that whole scenario, but we're not
going to do that. So so that is that is
really really it's exciting stuff for the park and I
know that I know that the Bordois is a huge
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part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So let me let me ask you a very specific question.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And I realized maybe you can't answer it specifically, but
you mentioned about ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Dollars every year. Do you have a goal? Do you
try to get ten?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Or are you trying to get nineteen? Are you trying
to get nine? I mean, is there is there a
cap or I mean, are you just gonna go and go?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's there's not really calpur our goal every year is
ten thousand dollars and depending upon the number of sponsors
that you know, Tea signs and the things, and we
do get a ton of support from throughout the community.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
If we if the.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Tournament itself doesn't raise enough, the law firm picks up
the remainder. That's just because we told the foundation that's
what we would do. But we've been very successful in
you know, convincing other businesses and individuals to help support
our efforts in this regard, and it's been growing year
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by year. So hopefully we plan on continuing our support
for the tournament in the foreseeable future. Hopefully we can
exceed ten thousand dollars, but it will be at least
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's incredible, and that and that transfers to so many
families and so many family's friends that.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That is just that that's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And and so I like the fact that you know what,
it's really it's really cool. The way you said that is, Hey, look,
you know what it's going to be at least this. Yeah,
our goal is ten thousand, but it's at least that goal.
And I think I think that that if we could
if I think that if the if the fairy dust
landed correctly and it became fourteen thousand dollars. You guys
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wouldn't blink an eye. That'd be awesome. Just more families
receive more, more, more access, you know, I mean, because
then there's no reason to throttle down. So knowing that
the opposite of obviously every action and reaction. So if
we're not gonna if we're gonna at least get ten,
let's shoot for fourteen. I think I think that the
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more you do, and I'm not telling you what to do,
because you guys do a really good job with this,
but the more you do, the more momentum the community
is going to bring to you, I would think.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I I think you're absolutely right, And that's why we
set a floor, not a ceiling.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah there you can go, there you go, So yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's that's the best way to put it. Is our
you know, our floor is ten thousand and and the
ceiling we haven't built. We haven't we haven't put the
ceiling on the building yet because we're just making the
building bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So let me ask you this, uh it, And I
I'm sure that you do this, but do you do
you communicate.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
The goals for the event. Before the event, do you
tell the players what you're trying to do? It's implied.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I think it's been. I'm pretty sure it's been to
make clear over the years what the goals of the
event are. I think the players do you understand? I
think are sure that we put out Our applications that
are put out all indicate that the proceeds Razor to
benefit the Ugly Foundation's access to the Parks program. So
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I'm pretty sure they're all wearing that. But you know,
the players are in it for an un reason. Uh,
there's ten thousand dollars in uh Ogby get cards up
for grabs, right, and that's not a small chunk of
change for an amateur event. Uh. You've got a lot
of guys in this field who have a shot at
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winning it, especially at Chrispin, because you know Chrispin, it's
as Mike you said earlier, it's it's very player friendly.
I'm not one of the guys that has a chance
of winning it, but I play every year because it's
it's it's a lot of fun. Uh Ogilby their thing
they do for us. They keep that course in great shape.
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Uh and it's always in fantastic condition.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
For this event.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And uh, you know, we're seeing guys shoot in the
little sixties when.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You're so yeah, so you are right, and you know
what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a break right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When we come back, we're going to talk about the
competitive edge of this event, because it is a highly
competitive edge. And yeah, we talked about the the the
goal of the event, but but I want to talk
about the actual golf, and when we come back, we're
going to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
This is the rich Konwall Golf Show. Welcome back to
the rich Koonwall Golf Show.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm with Scott Blast, Tom Cadino and Mike Anthony from
the Borders and bortis Ammer Golf Classic held at Ogilby
Park for the last well, it hasn't been the Borders
and Borders, but we're going to say close to one
hundred years now, with the exception of a few years
in World War Two when we were all a little
busy in Europe and Japan.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So let's talk about the golf, all right. How many
players you have this year?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
We are we have a full field as of today
with two hundred and sixteen players. Is that all that,
that's all two hundred and sixteen, that's all, and that
we have four flights. We have a championship flight. Of course,
we have seventy four players registered in the championship flight.
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You can register in the first flight if you're if
you're handicapped indexes seven or higher. I believe we have
sixty nine in that flight. The senior flight, we have
fifty seven. What's the age cutoff for seniors? Then sifty
is the age cutoff. We have a lot of folks
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who are eligible for seniors that elect to play championship,
but we do. But we do have fifty seven seniors
and we have sixteen juniors they're playing this year for
the total of two sixteen in the actual senior division.
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Thirty six of those fifty seven are super seniors, and
that's sixty five and over. So you got thirty six
super seniors and nineteen seniors.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
There's not actually a flight for super seniors, but we're
going to recognize the super senior with.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
The lowest scour, right, So so basically sixty five is
into the fifty that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
So all right, So okay, so you have a lot
of a lot of let's go to let's stay with
the senior division.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Who do you guys, who are your favorites? Who you
bet in fifty.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Well, Bob Clark.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Bobby Clark dominated the senior division for years. I think
he won five years in a row that we have
had the tournament. He did not win in the past
two years. I mean, he may have been runner up
two years ago. I'm not sure about last year. But
you know, it'd be hard to pick a favorite.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And Bob Clarks in his seventies, it's not like he's
a spring chicken. He won from twenty nineteen to twenty
twenty three, so he won five in a row and
hasn't won the last two. And he says he's slipping.
But his partner just turned fifty last year. Joe Door
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Joey Door, and Joe won the Senior Division last year
in his first fora into his fifties. A lot of
folks who are fifty in order, like myself, didn't like
the fact that Joe chose to play in the senior
division because you can still compete in the championship light.
But it'd be hard pressed with Joey to not be
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in the top two or three if not winning again.
The senior division will be very competitive, like all divisions,
even the junior division. But man by the name of
Eric Snodgrass, who had some pro tour status years ago,
is in this field and exactly my partner. And he
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played well in our men league this year with a
sixty two in one of the events, so I wouldn't
count him out either. And there's other guys who can
jump up in there too in a senior division.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So so you said Eric Snodgrass is your partner, correct, Yes,
So so if we called him, could could could he
tell us within a pound or two how heavy you
are to carry around in this event? Or he is
certainly good because because I'm thinking, I'm thinking, you know,
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I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking the the the freight horse in
this one is not you. I'm just telling you right now,
I'm mistaking horses, not you.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I think I will help him on a few holes,
I assure you. Okay, that's that's one of the things
we haven't talked about.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
There actually is the best ball event in all of
the plights, which you know is fun for the especially
the first play players who uh you know, the best
Ball event. Those scores are just unbelievable. Just they are
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our our winner last year, who won the tickets to
play last year.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Ryan Bilby was our winner last year, coming up a
very successful career at Marshall, and he turned pro the
day after the Borist tournament, so he can't play anymore.
But he and his partner did not win the Best
Ball He lost by one to a couple of kids
who played at cal University, Gavin Goodrich and his partner
who was not back with Gab this year. But Gavin
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is bringing another Cow teammate and both of those guys
were all pea Sack last year, so those guys will
be in the mix for.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Sure, right right, yeah, I'm sure of it. I'm sure
of it. So all right, so all right, let me
let me uh let me go to the one area.
And it's okay if you don't.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I want to spend a few minutes talking about the
juniors because you said you had sixteen kids in the juniors.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Sorry, yes, and it's going to be a battle too,
and one of them is actually a girl, one of
the female.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, okay, so tell me talk to me a little
bit about that division, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So the kid who is back as an offending champion,
his name is Maverick Maylan, plays out of bumb On
Hills Country Club in Saint Clair's, Ohio. He's going to
be a senior at Saint Clairsville. He shot one under
both rounds last year. And the kid who he overtook
for the title on day two is back as well.
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He's only going to be a sophomore John Marshall High School,
and that is a Marlin Drew. I'm thinking of his father,
who's the principal. Drew Marling shot sixty six last year
in the opening round to take the overnight lead, and
of course that was his career best. He's been playing
in this events since he was in sixth grade and
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now he's in high school a lot better, and he's
coming off a recent trip to Scotland where he played
some golf. So with Maylon and Marling at one to
two back this year, the junior division is going to
be very competitive. And there's a couple other juniors who
are really good too that could certainly jump up and
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be in the mix. And of course they're all battling
for the John B. Wilson Memorial Trophy, presented by Main
Street Bank. John Wilson was an old time golf teacher
around here, passed away and he nade that award after
as the junior champion.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Tell me his name again, Maverick Mayland?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You have? Saint Clairsville, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I have to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
If he does not make it on the PGA Tour,
he should play second base for the Mets. Because I'm
telling you right now, could tell me what doesn't sound like,
you know, batting fifth and playing second.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Maverick Mayland, I'm telling it doesn't sound like that. I
mean it does it does? It sounds exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So so okay, so let's let's let's jump back to
the Let's jump back to the the we talked about
the seniors. Let's talk about the championship flight. I mean,
because I know there's some names I know you mentioned.
You know, Ryan's Ryan Bilbi is not going to be back.
But tell me some more names about that.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Well, we have a you know all about the college players.
Rich These guys are long, long and longer, and they're
going to eat up the back nine and Chrispin and
all the part fives are men's meat to them. And uh,
guys like Gavin Goodrich who I mentioned Wheeling Park High School,
it was at Calpa his partner Chaz E. Konyak, both
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all Peace Act members. Those guys will be in the
mix for sure. Howie Peterson who played at West Liberty
a few years ago. He is a three time champion
and he's won three of the last five Borders and
Borders Amateur Classics. He tied the low score mark in
twenty twenty two at one twenty six with a sixty
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four and sixty two. That's not bad good.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's pretty good right there.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It's pretty good. So Howie Peterson just won the Pavian
of a very prestigious terming up the Superville Country Club
last week where he broke the scoring record there. So
he's coming into this thing red hot. I wouldn't consider
him a young guy anymore, but he's late twenties. He's
a young he's a young guy.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
It.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Speaking of young guys, we got a kid from West Liberty,
Adam Gil who came off the Division two National tournament
out in Las Vegas where he played as an individual
for West Liberty. Noah Stevertson, who's the West Liberty coach
who won the cow Cruise Amateur tournament last year. He's
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always a chance to win. And these guys like Kyle
Winzel and Brian Myers a three time champion, and Larry
Litz Junior, a three time champion who's back in this.
And I didn't even mention my pick to win at all.
Justin door West Liberty University. He jumps up and finished
second last year. And I was to pick one of
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these young guns. I picked him just because I'm picking
it and there could be a number of players win it.
It's Chrispin. It all comes down to putting, and the
back nine will certainly be very interesting Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And just so you know, one person I know you'll
RECOGNI today is in the field is Chris Black, the
executive Association.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yes, Chris and I, Chris and I are longtime friends.
Chris is.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Chris is the object of of I make fun of
him at every chance I get, because it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
I said that out loud. Yeah I did. And actually
the last time I saw.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Him, we had him down here for the West Virginia
Junior Championship match by championship and actually a young girlfriend
Wheeling won that uh Parkersburg, Ellie West. So yeah, that's
that's that's awesome in you Chris is Chris is such
Chris is such a proponent of golf in West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
He is he is, uh, you know, brings a lot
of energy and and it's really it's really neat.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So okay, so now that we didn't talk about that
first flight, you know, the guys who aren't quite in
that championship flight. But is a highly competitive first flight.
And I personally think that's one of the most interesting
things about the Borders and Borders is how competitive each
flight is, you know, because it's one thing to say, Okay,
the championship flights really competitive, but the rest are also
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a bunch of kind of not missmash but kind of missmash,
but they're not. That's a highly competitive flight, is that
first flight?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Well there's a It used to be everyone played in
the championship flight and then after the first round we
stopped at half and then you knew where you were
in the first flight the second day. But now we're
making you sign up as a first flighter, so you
know you're in that flight for Saturday and Sunday. And
when I look down.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Through the sheet of players and I see guys who are.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
On the borderline that seven to eight number, who are
pretty darn good players. We'd like to call them sandbaggers.
And I'll mention a few of them. My friend said,
Abraham is one of them. That Abraham seems to be
really good every year and somehow is in the first
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flight of everything. But he's a really good player.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And okay, so now we're now wait, now that we're
doing that, let's just say this.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Okay, Seth Abraham was member of one in country club
and I hung out with him for five years, and
I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Going to say the phrase guilty as charged.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
We just did that.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
What I like about the first flight is, you know,
these are they're people who's in that seven point zero
at higher and if they come out and play well
or get near the top of this, they're playing the
best rounds of their life. For most of these people
that actually win, which is nice to see. These are
people who you know, for them to shoot a good
score that they get to it's just nice to see
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that they come in excited because it's you know, they're
so because it's the best they've done. You know, the
championship guys, they expect to shoot sixty two every day,
right the first flighters come in, you know, if they
make pars that they're happy sometimes. So it's good to
see them come in and get excited for playing well
at their level.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yes, it is exciting, and I know that.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
The only reason I said that about Seth is because
I know that he has a he has a decent
thick skin, and he can take a He can take it.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
He can take a joke, he can take it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Plus plus the fact I don't have to see him
every day and he's pretty slapped together. So I'm not
really gonna I'm not gonna physical confrontation.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
I'll be avoiding him next weekend.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, exactly, exactly so.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
But Rich you mentioned you mentioned Chris Slack. I'm happy.
I'm happy he's part of this. The Golf Association does
a te Scign sponsorship. He plays every year. He's a
super players you know, uh he uh, he has a
chance to win. I would think he has the game
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and his partner Darnwell has the game too. Cold hand. Uh,
he can certainly get hot, and he has been in
the top three of his event for a number of years,
so that group could get really hot, even in the best.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Ball right exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Well, guys, I have to tell you, you know, Tom Cadino, Mike,
Anthony Scott, blast All from the Borders and Boris Amra
Golf Classic. You know, fifty two minutes just flew by,
and so I wanted to thank you for your time.
I want to congratulate you on the excellent, excellent impact
you're making in the community and also the excellent golf
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tournament you put on year after year after year.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Thanks so much for the time. Rich and follow Boris
and Bordius on all social media. We'll have blow out
the budget coverage of the tournament on Twitter and Facebook
and our website, but the t sheets will be up soon.
And follow the social media for up to date coverage
and live coverage too of the event next weekend June
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thirteenth and fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Awesome, guys, thanks for your time, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Welcome to the Rich Knwall Golf Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I wanted to We're going to spend the next forty
about fifty two minutes talking about one of the absolute
best amateur tournaments in not only in West Virginia, but
I would say western Pennsylvania, Ohio. I'm quite sure it's
probably reached into Virginia as well, but I think we're
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going to kind of focus on West Virginia. I know
we're going to focus on West Virginia, but also western
Pennsylvania and Ohio. And that is the Borders and Borders event.
The Borders and Borders has been going on for all
the way back to the nineteen twenties. It's one of
the longest running amateur tournaments in West Virginia, maybe even
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be the longest. So I'm gonna get corrected here in
a minute over that. But we are joined by three
folks today. Scott Blast is a member of the Borders
and Borders team, Mike Anthony is media relations for the
Boredis and Bortis event, and Tom Goodino is the tournament director.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So, gentlemen, thank you all for joining me today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Thanks for having us ro I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You bet so.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Tom I'm gonna start with you since you're the tournament director,
how or anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Who wants to jump in.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I want to talk about the history of the event,
So tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The tournament's been going on. It had different sponsors over
the years. It first started out as the High Valley Amateur.
A lot of people still know it as the Bernharts,
which ran it for well over fifty some years. After
Bernharts went out of business, we were very fortunate to
have some other sponsors jump in and for the last
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number of years Bordis and Boredis has been a major,
major sponsor of this and has actually been a better
sponsor than any of the others we've had in the past.
So the history has been, you know, a long time.
There are people that still call it the Bernhardt because
it ran for so so long, But we are very
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honored to have Boredis and Boreders who has stepped up
and made it a bigger event than we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right, And so it dates all the way back to
the Ohio Valley Ameter, which would have been it is
the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Correct, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It might have been early thirties. I don't think it
was in the twenties because the golf course opened in
nineteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, So the golf course, right, the original golf course
that would have been played on would have been Crispin.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Correct, that is where it is played correct.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right, exactly. That's that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Then Crispin is named after mister Ogleby's son, correct.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, okay, good and.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The history guy, I'm a weird history guy, so that's
that's yeah. So not many people know that mister Ogleby's
sun was named and that's why the golf course is
named Chrispin.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's correct. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And and it runs consistently since then, other than during
World War two.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right, world War two?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Right, and I think we probably all should have taken
a break doing World War two.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And so.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So then the other thing is, here's the oddly, the
weirdly historical thing I know, is that mister Ogleby was
also a He was in charge of a lot of shipping,
shipping things correct, like ships and and and water travel right,
water freight.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, it was actually his grandson that actually started Ogleby
Norton that people, if you hit hisstory, fact that actually
owned the Edmond Fitzgerald was written about it sounds I
think that was part of the Ogleby. Uh that's the
same golf course where we play.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
At right, right Edmundphis Sheldon superior By And yeah, the
reckor of the Van Fitzgerald. Yeah, so that is as
it's the older I get, the smaller the world gets.
I'm telling you, all right, so all the way back
to let's say the thirties, because obviously we just determined
that it was But and we know the other names
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for the event. But I know that you've had Ohio
Valley famous winners. And I know that for a fact
because I've actually read some of the winners of the event.
But like and so, and it's obviously an amateur tournament.
I mean that's I want to make that perfectly clear.
There's nothing to do with the West Virginia Open or
the you know, the Pennsylvania Open or the Ohio Open.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It it's an amateur tournament.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So it's been going on for well, let's see, almost
one hundred years. So let's can do you guys have
any any famous names.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That we would all know because throughout West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well here's the thing we were just talking about that
a few minutes ago. This is not somebody that actually
won the tournament, but back in nineteen sixty two, a
gentleman by the name of Tom Tom Wisecough actually played
in the tournament, but he did not win. Starts playing
at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Because he's actually from Western Pennsylvania. Tom Weiscoff was born
in Western Pennsylvania, and he did play.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He chased, he chased, not chased, but he followed.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He was young, he's younger. He's actually not alive anymore.
He's passed away. But he came a little bit later
than Nicholas to Jack Nicholas to Ohio State. He was
also part of that continued run at Ohio State that
continues through this day. But Wisecough, John Cook, you know
along those Yeah, so Wisecouse, that's that's a that's actually
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a great name.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's a great name.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And I will tell you guys this, I was a
very very small child in nineteen seventy eight at the
PGA at Oakmont and to this day, to this day,
I've seen a lot of people, had a lot of
golf shots in my life, and to this day, the
t shot Tom wisecof hit that day is the best
t shot I've ever seen in my life. I was
about seven years old. I still to this day think
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that ball's in the air. I think it's still in
the air. I mean, because I swear to God he
killed that thing.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So all right, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's not a winner, But tell me tell me some
other famous names that have rolled through this event.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I'm gonna my candle that because he's got the whole
list of all the winners that and he's done more
research than I had.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, what do you got from him?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Well, Richard, mean, it's a little hard to top time
Tom Whitskoff the targe to believe that Sam Snead never
made an appearance in this thing way back. I think
it was a profession.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Was he a kid, Well, I'll tell you he was born.
He was so he was born in nineteen twelve. So
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And this is interesting now that you guys, now as
you guys say this, see see nineteen twelve. Hogan, Sneid,
and Nelson were all born the same year in nineteen twelve,
and Snead was turned professional immediately as soon as he could.
Matter of fact, he played in the nineteen thirty seven
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Centennial Open at Wheeling Country Club as a professional, so
he was only twenty well, you guys can do them.
He was twenty five, twenty four to twenty five years old,
so he didn't. He came out of southern down by
the Greenbrier obviously as you guys know, and actually White
Sulfur Springs, Virginia.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He turned professional as soon as he could. So that's
why he would never have made an appearance in this event, especially.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Back then, because the lines were not anywhere near blurred
between professional and amateur, like nowhere near it. Like if
you were professional, you didn't you were actually looked down upon.
But so that's why he wouldn't have made an appearance.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
An interesting thing in that probably same open at Wheeling
Country Club in nineteen thirty seven, the participants would have
been Bob Berry. It was the designer of the golf course.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bob Berry was the first PGA professional I believe in
West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And yes he was, he was the designer, and yes
he's a he was.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He was.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They have that event and I can I will say
this on the radio. I actually have a very big
framed photo of the nineteen thirty seven Centennial Open in Wheeling.
Don't tell anybody. I have it, but I have it,
and it has it has many many, many famous people
in it. And interestingly enough that I know it's not
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about this event, but that say that Centennial Open was
the one hundredth anniversary of the founding of Wheeling, and
so that's say that two week period they had a
professional tennis tournament, a regatta, and a PGA Tour event,
all in two weeks, all in about twelve days, actually, Shelton, Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Darn proud of them. We're pretty proud of the prestige
of this event. You know, it's it's a long running event.
It's a chrispin it's a lot shorter course than the
other courses at O will Bee. We always cast a
player friendly course. A lot of birdies to be made
on that back nine coming in, which always makes it exciting.
And uh, we've certainly had our number of great players
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over the years. We've got records back into the forties
and fifties through now of winners. And one man has
won six of these tournaments and he no longer plays
competitive golf because he's lost some fingers in a grinding accident.
Guy by the name of Terry du Boys he's a
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Western Ta guy. I'm six time champion of the Borders
and Borders Amateur Golf Classic. Of course it wasn't named
that when he won, but Evans eight ninety four, ninety six,
ninety eight and two thousand, so he won in three
different decades and then had an unfortunate accident with a
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meat writer and he cut his career short playing. But
we have a six time champion and some other guys
that won five times, including a gentleman by the name
of Evo Petree. He that's forties and fifties. We're going
way back there, and Fred Jefferson who won in the
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fifties and sixties, and a guy named Ernie Hoffer won
in sixty two, the year we think that Wiskaugh would
have been here. And there's some other old timers like FOLLYD.
Schuler who is still playing in the Borders and Bornis
Amateur Golf Classic and he won it in eighty one
and eighty four. So we like our history of this event,
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and we respect our elders who came be Forest and
paved the way for this event, and uh, we certainly
like to express their names.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, I can appreciate that Floyd Floyd actually, Floyd actually
is a great guy. You know, when I was spending
time in Wheeling because as you guys know or maybe
don't know, I was the head professional wheeling country club
until we closed. But absolutely, but Floyd Floyd was always, always,
always just awesome to me, and and and really and
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and he's awesome to everybody. But Floyd's Floyd's a class act.
That's that's great that you brought him up, because I
had kind of half forgotten that name. And he's a
really good player, really good player, really good teacher. You
don't realize how good of a teacher he is too,
So so that's that's pretty cool. And how crazy is
it that that Floyd wins in the eighties and we
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think that's millions of years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That feels like millions of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'm like, okay, like who decided the eighties were millions
of years ago? Because I still think that sant Nolmo's
Fire came out last week. I think it mighty came
out last week.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So how many?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Obviously you mentioned a couple of different different sponsors, uh,
And I understand that the that that and we're going
to talk a little bit more in the next segment
about how involved Bortis and Borders is. But why do
you just kind of a gut answer here, Why do
you think it's so important this event is so important
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to the golf landscape in the Greater Ohio Valley.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Well, let Scott last handle that one. Well, the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The tournament itself is important because it is, as you said, Uh,
some people have told me it's the longest consecutive running
two day ameter event east of the Mississippi, short of
the US Amateur. Uh So, as you guys have been discussing,
you're going a long time back in history. But what
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it supports is the most important. And in the last
eight years, this is the ninth year that our firm,
Borders and Borders has sponsored this event, and for the
last eight years we've been able to raise ten thousand
a year to donate to the Access to the Parks
program that's administered by the Ogbie Foundation. Only if you're
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familiar with that rich but it's a tremendous program. Obviously,
it provides indigent children and their families access to the
parks for free for all the amenities up there at
Ogilby from swimming, the golfing to fishing, you name it,
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and it's an outstanding program. And this will be our
ninth year, so that that will be that organization will
be the benefactor of our effort. And it's not just
that organization though, because this tournament has historically been run
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by the ogbe Park Golf Club that Tom is a
member of and that's why he is the tournament director,
and the OGI Park Golf Club supports amateur golf and
golf generally at Ogiby. I think Tom can talk about
some of the things that the club has done for
Ogleby that just helps keep that machine running good.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Tom, Yeah, it's you know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Part of this does support the golf club itself and
so all everything we do, probably all of it what happened,
what comes from this tournament.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But for example, last year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
The golf club provided over five thousand dollars to the
junior golf program at Ogubley Park, which I think is
important for the juniors. We also helped the park with
equipment like benchpack machines, burder crat machines, very of things
that they need that maybe they don't have budgeted in
the year but would help them significantly, so we help
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with that and we also work with them. They bring
us projects that they would like us a partner with
them on. So this also supports a lot of stuff
that goes on.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
It's a golf.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Courses, golf courses at obb so it is it is
also part of that.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Also, it's not just I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It is great that we support the Ogbie Foundation and
the access for the kids, but it also a golfer
coming out Flamings event is also helping keep the ogleb
Bark golf courses above and beyond what they normally would do.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's a perfect spot to stop right now for this
segment because I want to jump right back into how
great this facility, this event is in helping not only
the community of Wheeling and the surrounding area, but the
actual golf courses at Ogleby. This is the Rich Golf Show.
Welcome back to the Rich Comboll Golf Show. I'm very
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fortunate to be joined by three gentlemen this week. Tom Godino,
who's the tournament director, Mike Anthony whose media relations and
Scott blast who is a member of the Borders and
boardist team. And we were talking about the Bordis and
Bortist Amateur Golf Classic.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And this is just we we just tapped.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Into just how great of an event this is and
and they they said something or we we mentioned something
in the in the first segment. I want I want
to dive back into it. Tell me, guys, tell me
more about how much this event helps junior golf.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well, the one thing it does is it's part of
the tournament itself. We encourage juniors to play in the event.
They pay a minimal fee. Uh in order to play,
they are connor with a winners given a trophy and
so on and so forth. So juniors can play in
this event for probably less than it costs us to
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actually have them there. So it's very economical for them
to play. We encourage juniors to play.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And as we mentioned before, you know the golf club
money that comes into the golf club does support junior golf,
not only financially, but the junior golf program at Obibe.
A number of our members volunteer with Kevin Ecker, who
handles the program for Obibe, volunteers with them during that program.
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So you know, our people not only provide some money,
they also actually go out and use their time to
help support the UNI involved.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, that's awesome. So it's interesting because I know I
mentioned the.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
First team program, which is a USGA United States Golf
Association program.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But the junior program that the.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Other side of that piece of bread, if you want
to put it that way, is is the the Ogilby
Junior Golf Junior Golf program.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So how many how many kids are in that? I
know you don't have an exact number, but but there
are a ton of kids in that, correct.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
There is, And it's by age group. I mean, they
don't throw all the kids together, and I think it
starts as young as five, you know, so they have
might have like five to seven, seven.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
To nine, so on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So the kids that are there are by age group,
and they're not with older kids where they feel like
they're you know, being overshadows, so on and so forth.
It's boys and girls. Uh, it's yeah, So it's I
don't know the number, but it's a large number of
children that's become.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Part of that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's interesting you say that because I actually just obviously
recently i've you know, I'm I'm at Perkersburg Country Club
now and I started a junior, then start it. But
I try to maximize the junior program or expand a
junior program, and I do it by age group and
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things like that. I have one hundred and six, one
hundred and four kids in the junior program. We start
next Tuesday, So I know what an awesome undertaking that is.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I have to tell you that that is.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That is such a I guess maybe eyes on the
prize kind of thing with because it's easy to overlook,
you know, how golf can be a benefit to the young.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
People in the area, because in your area, in my area,
in all areas.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because it's interesting. I always say there's a lot worse
places for kids to be in the world today than
a golf course or a basketball court referee basketball in
the winter, So I just use that. But but yeah,
I mean there's a lot worse places for kids to
be than a golf course. And I think I just
think it's awesome that that actually, this is a big
this event is a big support for that. So and
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then I also and have moving past that, I do
want to spend a few more minutes talking about the
access to the Parks program that the Borders and BORDERUS
has done for would you say, eight or nine years?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right, Yes, this will be our ninth year, and each
of the past eight years we've been able to raise
sufficient funds to make a ten thousand dollars donation per
year to the Ogwi Foundation that is earmarked specifically for
the Access to the Parks program. And as we were discussing,
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that program is such a tremendous asset for the parks
system to allow folks who otherwise wouldn't be able to
enjoy all the activities at the park pre access for
children and their families, and we have consistently had the
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foundation as the recipient of the proceeds because we're just
so impressed with how that operation is handled by the
foundation and the services it provides those folks here in
the valley who might otherwise not be in a position
to enjoy all of the things that we take.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
For brain and everything.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's that's really cool that you say it that way,
because it is difficult to realize but wrap your head
around the fact all that Ogilby offers and I realized,
you know, we're talking about golf tournament. But you know,
for nine years, you guys have given that the event
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has created ninety eighty thousand, ninety thousand dollars in money
that is earmar for people to enjoy the park. And
the park does have fishing, it has just walking trails,
it has you know, has.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
A zoo, as West Virginia is only zoo in it,
you know. And and it's it's really really.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Really cool that all the activity that that goes on
at that park that you are you are extending that
to families through the borders and borders. I think that
is such a tremendous message to the Greater Ohio Valley
that you guys do that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I just tell you how impressive that is.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I would like to even comment further this might on
Ogilby and the money that they have put into their
park system to really enhance the pleasure it it will be.
They've spent millions of dollars recently for upgrades at the
lodge and the streets and the golf courses, and it
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really gives more access. There's a there's a rock landing wall,
there's the lake, there's the aerial challenge course. There's se
many more things to do now that there ever was.
And access to the parks always also spreads to Wheeling
Park the sister part of Oglebe and that lake can
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be utilized, the putt putt can be utilized, ice skating
is utilized in the winter time there, and of course
a nine hole golf.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Course as well, and indoor tennis. So it's countless.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Activities even you know, even though you didn't grow up
around here, all three of us are a bit from
around here, and Ogleby has really gone up tremendously and
more things to do for kids. And that's why I
think we like access to the parks because there's so
much more going on up there now and it's always
nice to hear the hustle and the bustle of kids
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playing in the pool or in the soccer fields or
on the trails or anywhere else. It just feels like
it's summertime at.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, And I think I agree with you, And I
think the other thing is with that is is as
like I said before me, but it does so much
good for the community, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's just it's just such a.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I've and obviously I spent many many many hours,
you know, on right next to your property, and I
know I don't obviously have an understanding of all that
goes on there.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But I just think it is such a.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Neat story that what people in that community can do
at that park, and and and families that you are mentioning,
you know, for the last nine years have have got
have received access to the park is and I would
and I don't say this lightly.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't say this lightly.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It is potentially it is actually not potentially, it is
life changing activities because you start to find out that
that families are spending time together and on the on
on in the park, that that actually that they would
not be able to do without the borders and borders,
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it's literally that's a fact of the case, correct.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Absolutely, And the zoo Rich is going through a huge
overhaul right now. The road going into the zoo is
one lane because they're putting this huge lion exhibit and
habitat in there, and they added onto the zoo. It's
it's going to be really, really big.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And they're redoing the.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Entrance to the zoo.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So the zoo is getting a huge face lift.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
And it's X amount of numbers of a phase of
projects they've done. You know, did the lodge. They flattened
the front of the lodge parking lot, they added all
kinds of new restaurants. They've done so many improvements to
the White Palace really parked, and the zoo will be done,
I would think in a few more months, but I
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don't that you've been here since that, and it's really
going to enhance that part of the park, the zoo,
and of course that's a huge attraction for kids, and
they're getting more animals and it's gonna be really nice
when that being but thin in the fall, Well.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's awesome, and but I do have to ask you
did you guys, did they.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Lion's gonna be on my former driving range, because
I swear if that's the case. You know, if I had,
if I had known, if I had known that was
going to happen, you know, I would like filmed myself
more there because I could be like, you know, the
lion tamer.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I could have been that. I could have said, look
there's a lie and I stood there, see like that
was me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like you know, I could have done that. See all
you guys had to do is tell me that and
I would have filmed it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So the lion, the lions are going The lion is
going back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Into into Willing Country Club's property, right, I mean that
that the zoo is extending into that correct.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think
you could probably get an iron from that drive and
range into the lands dead maybe my guest, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's so.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And again, if we could have just filmed it, so
you guys had to tell me this stuff was going on,
you know, and I can I could, well, I could,
I could get into that whole scenario, but we're not
going to do that. So so that is that is
really really it's exciting stuff for the park and I
know that I know that the Bordois is a huge
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part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So let me let me ask you a very specific question.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And I realized maybe you can't answer it specifically, but
you mentioned about ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Dollars every year. Do you have a goal? Do you
try to get ten?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Or are you trying to get nineteen? Are you trying
to get nine? I mean, is there is there a
cap or I mean, are you just gonna go and go?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's there's not really calpur our goal every year is
ten thousand dollars and depending upon the number of sponsors
that you know, Tea signs and the things, and we
do get a ton of support from throughout the community.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
If we if the.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Tournament itself doesn't raise enough, the law firm picks up
the remainder. That's just because we told the foundation that's
what we would do. But we've been very successful in
you know, convincing other businesses and individuals to help support
our efforts in this regard, and it's been growing year
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by year. So hopefully we plan on continuing our support
for the tournament in the foreseeable future. Hopefully we can
exceed ten thousand dollars, but it will be at least
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's incredible, and that and that transfers to so many
families and so many family's friends that.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That is just that that's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And and so I like the fact that you know what,
it's really it's really cool. The way you said that is, Hey, look,
you know what it's going to be at least this. Yeah,
our goal is ten thousand, but it's at least that goal.
And I think I think that that if we could
if I think that if the if the fairy dust
landed correctly and it became fourteen thousand dollars. You guys
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wouldn't blink an eye. That'd be awesome. Just more families
receive more, more, more access, you know, I mean, because
then there's no reason to throttle down. So knowing that
the opposite of obviously every action and reaction. So if
we're not gonna if we're gonna at least get ten,
let's shoot for fourteen. I think I think that the
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more you do, and I'm not telling you what to do,
because you guys do a really good job with this,
but the more you do, the more momentum the community
is going to bring to you, I would think.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I I think you're absolutely right, And that's why we
set a floor, not a ceiling.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah there you can go, there you go, So yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's that's the best way to put it. Is our
you know, our floor is ten thousand and and the
ceiling we haven't built. We haven't we haven't put the
ceiling on the building yet because we're just making the
building bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So let me ask you this, uh it, And I
I'm sure that you do this, but do you do
you communicate.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
The goals for the event. Before the event, do you
tell the players what you're trying to do? It's implied.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I think it's been. I'm pretty sure it's been to
make clear over the years what the goals of the
event are. I think the players do you understand? I
think are sure that we put out Our applications that
are put out all indicate that the proceeds Razor to
benefit the Ugly Foundation's access to the Parks program. So
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I'm pretty sure they're all wearing that. But you know,
the players are in it for an un reason. Uh,
there's ten thousand dollars in uh Ogby get cards up
for grabs, right, and that's not a small chunk of
change for an amateur event. Uh. You've got a lot
of guys in this field who have a shot at
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winning it, especially at Chrispin, because you know Chrispin, it's
as Mike you said earlier, it's it's very player friendly.
I'm not one of the guys that has a chance
of winning it, but I play every year because it's
it's it's a lot of fun. Uh Ogilby their thing
they do for us. They keep that course in great shape.
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Uh and it's always in fantastic condition.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
For this event.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And uh, you know, we're seeing guys shoot in the
little sixties when.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You're so yeah, so you are right, and you know
what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a break right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When we come back, we're going to talk about the
competitive edge of this event, because it is a highly
competitive edge. And yeah, we talked about the the the
goal of the event, but but I want to talk
about the actual golf, and when we come back, we're
going to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
This is the rich Konwall Golf Show. Welcome back to
the rich Koonwall Golf Show.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm with Scott Blast, Tom Cadino and Mike Anthony from
the Borders and bortis Ammer Golf Classic held at Ogilby
Park for the last well, it hasn't been the Borders
and Borders, but we're going to say close to one
hundred years now, with the exception of a few years
in World War Two when we were all a little
busy in Europe and Japan.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So let's talk about the golf, all right. How many
players you have this year?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
We are we have a full field as of today
with two hundred and sixteen players. Is that all that,
that's all two hundred and sixteen, that's all, and that
we have four flights. We have a championship flight. Of course,
we have seventy four players registered in the championship flight.
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You can register in the first flight if you're if
you're handicapped indexes seven or higher. I believe we have
sixty nine in that flight. The senior flight, we have
fifty seven. What's the age cutoff for seniors? Then sifty
is the age cutoff. We have a lot of folks
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who are eligible for seniors that elect to play championship,
but we do. But we do have fifty seven seniors
and we have sixteen juniors they're playing this year for
the total of two sixteen in the actual senior division.
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Thirty six of those fifty seven are super seniors, and
that's sixty five and over. So you got thirty six
super seniors and nineteen seniors.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
There's not actually a flight for super seniors, but we're
going to recognize the super senior with.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
The lowest scour, right, So so basically sixty five is
into the fifty that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
So all right, So okay, so you have a lot
of a lot of let's go to let's stay with
the senior division.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Who do you guys, who are your favorites? Who you
bet in fifty.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Well, Bob Clark.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Bobby Clark dominated the senior division for years. I think
he won five years in a row that we have
had the tournament. He did not win in the past
two years. I mean, he may have been runner up
two years ago. I'm not sure about last year. But
you know, it'd be hard to pick a favorite.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And Bob Clarks in his seventies, it's not like he's
a spring chicken. He won from twenty nineteen to twenty
twenty three, so he won five in a row and
hasn't won the last two. And he says he's slipping.
But his partner just turned fifty last year. Joe Door
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Joey Door, and Joe won the Senior Division last year
in his first fora into his fifties. A lot of
folks who are fifty in order, like myself, didn't like
the fact that Joe chose to play in the senior
division because you can still compete in the championship light.
But it'd be hard pressed with Joey to not be
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in the top two or three if not winning again.
The senior division will be very competitive, like all divisions,
even the junior division. But man by the name of
Eric Snodgrass, who had some pro tour status years ago,
is in this field and exactly my partner. And he
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played well in our men league this year with a
sixty two in one of the events, so I wouldn't
count him out either. And there's other guys who can
jump up in there too in a senior division.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So so you said Eric Snodgrass is your partner, correct, Yes,
So so if we called him, could could could he
tell us within a pound or two how heavy you
are to carry around in this event? Or he is
certainly good because because I'm thinking, I'm thinking, you know,
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I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking the the the freight horse in
this one is not you. I'm just telling you right now,
I'm mistaking horses, not you.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I think I will help him on a few holes,
I assure you. Okay, that's that's one of the things
we haven't talked about.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
There actually is the best ball event in all of
the plights, which you know is fun for the especially
the first play players who uh you know, the best
Ball event. Those scores are just unbelievable. Just they are
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our our winner last year, who won the tickets to
play last year.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Ryan Bilby was our winner last year, coming up a
very successful career at Marshall, and he turned pro the
day after the Borist tournament, so he can't play anymore.
But he and his partner did not win the Best
Ball He lost by one to a couple of kids
who played at cal University, Gavin Goodrich and his partner
who was not back with Gab this year. But Gavin
(38:01):
is bringing another Cow teammate and both of those guys
were all pea Sack last year, so those guys will
be in the mix for.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Sure, right right, yeah, I'm sure of it. I'm sure
of it. So all right, so all right, let me
let me uh let me go to the one area.
And it's okay if you don't.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I want to spend a few minutes talking about the
juniors because you said you had sixteen kids in the juniors.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Sorry, yes, and it's going to be a battle too,
and one of them is actually a girl, one of
the female.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, okay, so tell me talk to me a little
bit about that division, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So the kid who is back as an offending champion,
his name is Maverick Maylan, plays out of bumb On
Hills Country Club in Saint Clair's, Ohio. He's going to
be a senior at Saint Clairsville. He shot one under
both rounds last year. And the kid who he overtook
for the title on day two is back as well.
(39:01):
He's only going to be a sophomore John Marshall High School,
and that is a Marlin Drew. I'm thinking of his father,
who's the principal. Drew Marling shot sixty six last year
in the opening round to take the overnight lead, and
of course that was his career best. He's been playing
in this events since he was in sixth grade and
(39:23):
now he's in high school a lot better, and he's
coming off a recent trip to Scotland where he played
some golf. So with Maylon and Marling at one to
two back this year, the junior division is going to
be very competitive. And there's a couple other juniors who
are really good too that could certainly jump up and
(39:44):
be in the mix. And of course they're all battling
for the John B. Wilson Memorial Trophy, presented by Main
Street Bank. John Wilson was an old time golf teacher
around here, passed away and he nade that award after
as the junior champion.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Tell me his name again, Maverick Mayland?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You have? Saint Clairsville, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I have to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
If he does not make it on the PGA Tour,
he should play second base for the Mets. Because I'm
telling you right now, could tell me what doesn't sound like,
you know, batting fifth and playing second.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Maverick Mayland, I'm telling it doesn't sound like that. I
mean it does it does? It sounds exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So so okay, so let's let's let's jump back to
the Let's jump back to the the we talked about
the seniors. Let's talk about the championship flight. I mean,
because I know there's some names I know you mentioned.
You know, Ryan's Ryan Bilbi is not going to be back.
But tell me some more names about that.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Well, we have a you know all about the college players.
Rich These guys are long, long and longer, and they're
going to eat up the back nine and Chrispin and
all the part fives are men's meat to them. And uh,
guys like Gavin Goodrich who I mentioned Wheeling Park High School,
it was at Calpa his partner Chaz E. Konyak, both
(41:04):
all Peace Act members. Those guys will be in the
mix for sure. Howie Peterson who played at West Liberty
a few years ago. He is a three time champion
and he's won three of the last five Borders and
Borders Amateur Classics. He tied the low score mark in
twenty twenty two at one twenty six with a sixty
(41:26):
four and sixty two. That's not bad good.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's pretty good right there.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It's pretty good. So Howie Peterson just won the Pavian
of a very prestigious terming up the Superville Country Club
last week where he broke the scoring record there. So
he's coming into this thing red hot. I wouldn't consider
him a young guy anymore, but he's late twenties. He's
a young he's a young guy.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
It.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Speaking of young guys, we got a kid from West Liberty,
Adam Gil who came off the Division two National tournament
out in Las Vegas where he played as an individual
for West Liberty. Noah Stevertson, who's the West Liberty coach
who won the cow Cruise Amateur tournament last year. He's
(42:17):
always a chance to win. And these guys like Kyle
Winzel and Brian Myers a three time champion, and Larry
Litz Junior, a three time champion who's back in this.
And I didn't even mention my pick to win at all.
Justin door West Liberty University. He jumps up and finished
second last year. And I was to pick one of
(42:41):
these young guns. I picked him just because I'm picking
it and there could be a number of players win it.
It's Chrispin. It all comes down to putting, and the
back nine will certainly be very interesting Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And just so you know, one person I know you'll
RECOGNI today is in the field is Chris Black, the
executive Association.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yes, Chris and I, Chris and I are longtime friends.
Chris is.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Chris is the object of of I make fun of
him at every chance I get, because it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
I said that out loud. Yeah I did. And actually
the last time I saw.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Him, we had him down here for the West Virginia
Junior Championship match by championship and actually a young girlfriend
Wheeling won that uh Parkersburg, Ellie West. So yeah, that's
that's that's awesome in you Chris is Chris is such
Chris is such a proponent of golf in West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
He is he is, uh, you know, brings a lot
of energy and and it's really it's really neat.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So okay, so now that we didn't talk about that
first flight, you know, the guys who aren't quite in
that championship flight. But is a highly competitive first flight.
And I personally think that's one of the most interesting
things about the Borders and Borders is how competitive each
flight is, you know, because it's one thing to say, Okay,
the championship flights really competitive, but the rest are also
(44:09):
a bunch of kind of not missmash but kind of missmash,
but they're not. That's a highly competitive flight, is that
first flight?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Well there's a It used to be everyone played in
the championship flight and then after the first round we
stopped at half and then you knew where you were
in the first flight the second day. But now we're
making you sign up as a first flighter, so you
know you're in that flight for Saturday and Sunday. And
when I look down.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Through the sheet of players and I see guys who are.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
On the borderline that seven to eight number, who are
pretty darn good players. We'd like to call them sandbaggers.
And I'll mention a few of them. My friend said,
Abraham is one of them. That Abraham seems to be
really good every year and somehow is in the first
(45:04):
flight of everything. But he's a really good player.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And okay, so now we're now wait, now that we're
doing that, let's just say this.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Okay, Seth Abraham was member of one in country club
and I hung out with him for five years, and
I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Going to say the phrase guilty as charged.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
We just did that.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
What I like about the first flight is, you know,
these are they're people who's in that seven point zero
at higher and if they come out and play well
or get near the top of this, they're playing the
best rounds of their life. For most of these people
that actually win, which is nice to see. These are
people who you know, for them to shoot a good
score that they get to it's just nice to see
(45:48):
that they come in excited because it's you know, they're
so because it's the best they've done. You know, the
championship guys, they expect to shoot sixty two every day,
right the first flighters come in, you know, if they
make pars that they're happy sometimes. So it's good to
see them come in and get excited for playing well
at their level.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yes, it is exciting, and I know that.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
The only reason I said that about Seth is because
I know that he has a he has a decent
thick skin, and he can take a He can take it.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
He can take a joke, he can take it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Plus plus the fact I don't have to see him
every day and he's pretty slapped together. So I'm not
really gonna I'm not gonna physical confrontation.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
I'll be avoiding him next weekend.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, exactly, exactly so.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
But Rich you mentioned you mentioned Chris Slack. I'm happy.
I'm happy he's part of this. The Golf Association does
a te Scign sponsorship. He plays every year. He's a
super players you know, uh he uh, he has a
chance to win. I would think he has the game
(46:55):
and his partner Darnwell has the game too. Cold hand. Uh,
he can certainly get hot, and he has been in
the top three of his event for a number of years,
so that group could get really hot, even in the best.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Ball right exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Well, guys, I have to tell you, you know, Tom Cadino, Mike,
Anthony Scott, blast All from the Borders and Boris Amra
Golf Classic. You know, fifty two minutes just flew by,
and so I wanted to thank you for your time.
I want to congratulate you on the excellent, excellent impact
you're making in the community and also the excellent golf
(47:32):
tournament you put on year after year after year.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Thanks so much for the time. Rich and follow Boris
and Bordius on all social media. We'll have blow out
the budget coverage of the tournament on Twitter and Facebook
and our website, but the t sheets will be up soon.
And follow the social media for up to date coverage
and live coverage too of the event next weekend June
(47:56):
thirteenth and fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Awesome, guys, thanks for your time, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
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