July 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Hilary will be joining Ryan to discuss the economy and the outlook for the future of the Trump administration.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Judicial committee hearing that would be most likely the committee
where a Julie Maxwell would testify.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Would have you in favor of that? Absolutely? Yes, yes,
of course we want answers. And no one is satisfied
with what has been received or lack thereof. No one
is satisfied with the rollout of this. Of course we've
heard that Dan Bongino is not satisfied with the rollout
of this either. And you know, I mean, I think
you hear time and time again, what an honorable stand
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up man Dan Bongino is.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He obviously thinks highly of Attorney General Pam BONDI. I
don't know her personally, but I know Dan and he's
a wonderful man and I have no reason to doubt him.
And I think moving forward, we need a special counsel.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That has got to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There has to be a special investigation into this. If
we aren't going to be provided information.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
That is why she's one of our favorite representative, Lauren
Bobert right there, uncowed by a Republican party. This has
really gotten strange over this last Regarding the so called
Epstein files, do they exist, will they be released?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Why are they being held up?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Why does President Trump continue to step in and not
only defend Pam Bondi the Attorney General, which I may
add and repeat, Pam Bondi would not be going rogue,
acting all on her own here and obfuscating on the
Epstein files unless she was directed to do so by
the President. And what proves that to me was that
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cabinet meeting in which he stepped in when she was
being asked a question about the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And say, you still talking about that's old news? Is
a great what do you want?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And he was trying to distract and deflect from that topic.
He doesn't do that. That is not President Trump's mo.
And that's why I found it so bizarre, peculiar, concerning,
and he really did it again today. But what I'm
refreshed to hear from Representative Bobert there is she is
not going along with a Republican subcommittee that voted again
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again the Democrats for the release.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Of the Epstein files.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And as she just spoke about there with Benny Johnson,
the conservative commentator podcast host, that she favors bringing in
Julaane Maxwell, having her testify. Let's get this all out
in the open. Let's let the chips fall where they may.
I've always been in this position on this topic because
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it's important to get at the truth. There were young women,
girls who were victimized repeatedly on Epstein Island. There is
more than just anecdotal evidence or suggestion or speculation or
rum or. In any window that this went on, it
went on. There are flight logs, there is a black
book with a list of clients. Now, the degree to
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which Jeffrey Epstein was connected to these various individuals needs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
To be sorted out.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But when the likes of Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's former attorney,
comes forward, comes out and says, let's let her rip.
I've got nothing to hide, and I know when the
truth comes out, I'll be exonerated, said Alan Dershowitz, because
he was implicated at one time, he was accused of
participating in this, and then the accuser ended up recanting that.
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And that is the young woman, unfortunately, who died within
the last calendar year.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
But if Dershowitz is.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Front and center going no, let's do this, it makes
you wonder why Donald Trump is so opposed to doing
the same. We know that his name has been mentioned
with Jeffrey Epstein. We also know the following. This is
a fact you can check on the calendar yourself, in
the timeline of events. When Donald Trump discovered what Jeffrey
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Epstein was up to kind of the sordid underworld that
he was a part of what happened, Epstein was banned
from mar A Lago and Trump cut all ties to him. Now,
if that is in fact the case, which I believe
that it is, who else then would Trump be protecting here?
There's no doubt going to be names on both sides
the political spectrum. I don't care Republicans Democrats. If you
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were participating in this, you got to go and you
gots to get found out. There is nothing that remotely
suggests that the right move here is to continue to
run cover for the likes of Prince Andrew or Bill
Clinton or Bill Gates or whoever else is on that list.
Jeffrey Epstein suicided himself for a reason, not just for nothing,
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Not just for nothing. Julane Maxwell is in prison for
a reason, and it wasn't just because they were trafficking
girls to one another. That doesn't hold water as an argument,
so Representative Bobert saying there should be a special counsel.
We'll get to who she thinks it should be in
just a moment. But this was Donald Trump earlier today.
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We've got two installments of Trump's hot takes for you
that are hilarious. But again, this answer, this is blinding
in the gas lighting from the President himself. I don't
like it. I don't like being lied to. I don't
like being condescended to. I don't like being made a
fool of. And I don't like being told of fairy
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tale that we know darn well is not the case.
Here is President Trump fielding this question on Pam Bondi,
her status as Attorney General, what kind of job she's doing,
and what she might do as it pertains to the
Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
What did she tell you about put you in specifically?
Think she'd tell you all that your name up here.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
And no, she's she's given us just a very quick briefing.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And in terms of the credibility of.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
The different things that they've seen, and I would say
that you know, these files were made up by Komi,
they were made up by Obama, they were made up
by the Biden from you know, uh we and we
went through years of that with the Russia Russia Russia hoax,
with all of the different things.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
That we had to go through.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it
very well and it's gonna be up there. Whatever she
thinks is credible, she should release.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay, that's the key part right there.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Whatever she Pam Bondi thinks is credible regarding the Epstein
file should be released.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But Kelly, what do you make.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Of President Trump putting this out there like it's some
kind of Democrat hoax?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Komy was behind it?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
James Comy, former director of the FBI, Barack Obama, Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That doesn't make sense to me. That doesn't track at all.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It doesn't. I'm not really sure what's going on with
this whole story. But there's something obviously that we don't
know that is going to come out later. I mean
has to at this point. They can't just hide this,
and it's really not a good look for this administry.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, there's two things again that I'm cutting right through
the bs on this for all of us, because no,
we're right. Representative Lauren Bobert is right, she's on the
right side of this. Oh heard Bondi say this, Oh,
there's child pornography. We're not going to release that filth
that Jeffrey Epstein's a monster idiot.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That's not the point. That's not the purpose of the exercise.
That's not the question we're asking. So lose me, miss
me with that. Then there's the argument that, well, like
I was saying earlier, there may be names that were
in there, but I mean, Jeffrey Epstein could have wrote
anybody's name in there. It doesn't mean the person was guilty.
Well that's fine. Then then let it all come out
in the wash. If your name was on there and
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you had any kind of encounter with them, you can
go ahead and explain that to the American people, because
you have to know, as inconvenient as that might be,
you know that you're gonna have to offer up some
kind of plausible deniability or explanation as to why you
had any kind of interaction with him at all. Melinda
Gates reportedly in large part left Bill Gates why because
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of his association, affiliation, friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. The smoke
stream crap that is not going to cut it. And
Representative Bobert went one step further. I found this interesting
based on some of the allegations behind the scenes as
it pertains to Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So this is certainly important and I want answers, and
maybe that takes that special counsel to do. So maybe
Matt Gates can lead the special Council.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Would you vote bear of that? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, you know, Matt spoke highly of Pam Bondie and saying,
you know that she's the best attorney general that President
Trump has had. But yeah, Matt Gates as a special counsel.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Absolutely. I don't know about Matt Gates.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I do like the idea of a special counsel because
I want to get to the truth of the matter.
We got to the bloom is off the rose here
and we got to get cut to the quick as
to what is the truth. Veritas seek the truth wherever
it leads come what may let the chips fall?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And we're going to know all these details.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Why so we can prevent something like this from ever
happening again. There's always been these allusions to the corrupt
power of Washington and throughout the world, this cabal, this
kind of a nefarious underpinning of those who are in
power that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Play by a special set of rules.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And I know this is fiction, but you might recall
the central plot to taken with Liam Neeson. Remember that
you have all these well to do Saudi princes and
stuff bidding on women. And you know, you think that's
the stuff of fiction, but it gives it legs and kerosene,
not just gasoline. A story like this when there continues
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to be this element of those who are in power,
a deep state protecting others who would be in power
or have access to power.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And I ain't about that life, not one bit.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So your thoughts five seven, seven, three nine, you can
text those in as well. We've got those hot takes
from President Trump coming in just a little bit. But
the worm is turning. When it comes to the economy.
The tariffs appear to be working and generating revenue, the
big beautiful bill and there will be a substantial.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Tax cut associated with that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
The stock market appears to be thriving, not the opposite.
Scott Besson has pointed out the Secretary of the Treasury
unemployment is down, job numbers going up for American citizens,
down for illegals, and Ken Lang gone, the Home Depot
co founder, not a very big fan of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Willie is. Now, look, let me.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Tell you right now, I am sold on Trump. In fact,
I'll say this, I think he's got a good shot
at going down in history. He's one of my best
presidents ever.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That is a real turnaround because you didn't want.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
To vote for him. I told you the reason.
Speaker 9 (10:39):
I want to tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm a believer.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
What I'm seeing happening is is absolutely nothing short of
a great thing.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And there's a beat. The people are walking with more bounce,
and it's all around.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
There's a beat, people are walking more balance. I like
how he describes this, but he's right. And then he
admits that Joe Kernan was giving him a hard time.
But Joe was right. And you admit when you're wrong,
and the real man admits when he's wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I gave you quite a bit of grief.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Huh. I gave you grief? Can you give me grief?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I gave you grief when it was a binary choice.
You're still complaining about Trump and it was a binary choice.
It's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (11:17):
Acknowledge implies one thing when you made a mistake, admitted, Okay,
I think this guy is turning out to be a president.
One of the Polish on that miraculous trip to Iran
that we wiped out, now we wiped out, but she said,
you're the only guy that and the presidency that would
have done what you did. One of the Polish said that,
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and you know what, he's probably right.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, she's a global business development leader herself. And one
of our favorite guests to have on the program. Joining
us on Ryan Schuling Live right now is Hillary Fordwitch. Hillary,
thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yes, you're absolutely welcome, tuture to be back with you again.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What do you make of.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The Home Depot co founder singing the praises of Trump
when he wasn't really sold on him to begin with?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Well, Ryan, I think he's actually like a lot of people,
and I actually don't blame people individually. One of the
things I've always said is people will say things like I'm.
Speaker 10 (12:11):
Googling this as if it's getting information. It's not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's left wing propaganda. A lot of our higher education
has become left wing, social media has become left wing.
You mentioned in your opening monlogue there about this sort
of being in the deep state and those that are privilege.
There have been this list left leaning Deep States. I
think a lot of people, even highly educated, well informed
people like him, I think that they watch somebody who
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an said to me, oh, the news we watch is like,
you know, we don't want propaganda, so we watch ABC
and NBC. I was like, yeah, the legacy media. You
don't think that's propaganda. So I think a lot of
people have been fed a lot of misinformation and now
they're seeing the facts, they're seeing the results. And one
of the things I've said many, many, many times is
I wish we could have a constitutional.
Speaker 10 (12:57):
Amendment that to run for any kind of.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You have to have done one of two things, and
preferably both either one made payroll in other words, run
a business, or two served in our military.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Then you really get it. I run a business.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
People who run businesses know how to make money, know
how to budget, know that you could money doesn't come
out of the clear blue sky. At Margaret Saturus and
say there's no such thing as a free lunch, and
I think, whyan We have too many politicians like politicians
that were lawyers. No dis against lawyers. My daddy was
a lawyer. You know, lawyers have their virtues, but they
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are not necessarily capable of running businesses, growing business or
making payroll. And this nation basically has to have businesses
that can run and do well and be run more
like a business. And that's what Trump's doing. And so
that's why I think you're thing not only that CEO
from Home Depot, but a lot of other people feeling
the same way.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
She is the president of straw Mark LC. She's Hillary
with one L. You get the other L to the
other Hillary, she takes the L. Hillary Fordwich only piles
up the WS. You got a W in her last
name too. There and you can follow her latest on YouTube.
That's where I go to for all of the latest video.
She appears on Newsmax often at Hillary Fordwich is where
you can find her there.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Hillary.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
A lot of people were very skeptical about the Trump
tariffs out of the gate, that they would have a
crippling effect on the economy, that they would forward business
and development, and yet it seems at least playing it
out over the long term and has not had those
adverse effects. As I mentioned, Scott Bessen made mention of that,
what is your analysis of the tariffs as a means
to an end, because we're seeing Donald Trump, the president,
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crank out all these deals, the most recent of which
just two hours ago announced with Indonesia as a means
to an end tariff's.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Do they work?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Is it just a specific example in this case where
Donald Trump is making them work through the power negotiation?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What is your stance on that?
Speaker 11 (14:51):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, thank you post rule so Ryan for mentioning my YouTube. Actually,
people go to my YouTube, they'll see that. One of
my recent posts is one where I said, who made
previous trade deals? Makes a trade deal for amp. I'll
just give you one example with the EU where we
are exporting to them, stucked over six billion dollars worth
of cars and they were and then we were importing
over eighty three billion and they had We only had
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a two percent paris on European cars. And I'm sure
many people listening to our show today have seen a
German car, They have seen cars coming from Europe. But
you go to Europe you do not see many American cars.
Why because the EU slaps on a ten percent tariff.
So I think this term that Trumps uses, this term
about reciprocity. Why should we have two percent and they
have ten percent. If they think ten percent is fine,
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then we'll make it ten percent.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
And that's one of.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
The things he's already said that anybody who decides to retaliate, which,
by the way, the EU is discussing at the moment,
anyone who decides to retaliate against the US, whatever task
they slap on will just match it. I think that's
actually very fair. Now to answer your question directly with
regard to tariffs and do they work, yes, Let's look
at a historical example. In the eighteen seventies, we were
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a wealthy nation, Ryan and every member of our.
Speaker 10 (16:03):
Audience should head hose to this.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
We had to have a national Blue Ribbon Commission established
just to determine how to spend all the money. And
that was all coming from teris. Do you know there
was no such thing as income tax until just around
the time of the First World War. We didn't even
have income tax. So I think, yes, a tax on
consumption is far better than the regressive tax that actually
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penalizes work. No, let's encourage work, let's encourage productivity. Let's
encourage manufacturing, which is what President Trump is doing. He's
having American manufacturing reshaw back in the US you create
American jobs. Tell me the member of our audience who says, no,
thank you, I don't want to make a paycheck and
I don't want a job Hillery.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Ford, which our guest.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
One other comment I wanted to get to is the
response that Donald Trump as president is getting from world
leaders like NATO Chief Mark Route, and he is of
course a big fan of our president, and he explains
here that Donald Trump angling for NATO to pay more
for the defense of Ukraine totally logical.
Speaker 10 (17:02):
This is really big.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You called me all Thursday that you have.
Speaker 12 (17:05):
Taken a decision, and the decision is that you want
to brain Brodie to have to maintain to be able
to defend itself against Russia. But you go want to
your peas to pay for it, which is totally logical.
And this is building all the tremendous success of the
NATO sonnet, the five percent, but also the decision to
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keep you create strong and the decision to increase our
defense indusal production. So based on that, that was your
stepping up. This is again Europeans stepping up. So I've
been in contact for many countries. I can tell you
at this moment in Germany massively but also Finland and
Denmark and Sweden and Norvating, Kingda, Pnemens, Canada. They all
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want to be part of this. And this is only
the first wave.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
There will be more, and suddenly all the NATO nations
that he mentions are falling in the line. And I
just note the contrast here, Hillary, between Donald Trump, the
iconic image Kelly and I talk about it often where
he's got his arms crossed and write it his side
rip Shinzo Abi, the Prime Minister of Japan at that time,
and then leading over was the Prime Minister of Germany
and all these other European countries listening in. Trump is
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the alpha, commanding respect at the table and getting things done?
Is it that projection of strength alone, that is the
force of nature, that is Donald Trump that gets things done?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, yeah, he gets things done one hundred percent correct oryon.
He gets things done. But he also gets things done.
He's not a fool, He's a smart man. He does
things actually that is for.
Speaker 10 (18:35):
The benefit of other nations as well.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
He has a way of appealing and showing them what's
in their best interest. And if I could make mention
about the pip you just played smart rut so people
know that that accent is a Dutch accent. He was
the Prime Minister of Holland.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
Very smart.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Man has done very well. He has done very well
at uniting Europe and getting them all on board.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
And I'll remind.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Everyone of what Henry Kissinger said. He said, I'll believe
in one EU and there's one phone number for me
to call. So we must remember this is twenty seven
nations and is HEARDing them as worse than trying to
herd cats.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
So don't forget.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Obviously, the Germans share about their cars and the French
chair about their wine making. So Marca Route, I just
gave him a lot of respect. He's doing very well.
You said he's a big admirer of Donald Trump. He
is because he's a straight ut, straight.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
Shooting, good businessman.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Now to actually this point about the five percent, the
Europeans paying five percent of NATO. Could you imagine are
being a Belgian taxpayer, a British taxpayer, or a French taxpayer.
Excuse me, We'd like you to pay taxes so that
you can fund the protection of the US southern border
and northern border. They'd look at you and say, and
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the French would say why no, why no? The English
would say, what are you talking about? Of course they
wouldn't do that. But why is the American taxpayer?
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Why am I?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Why is Ryan? Why is Kelly? Why is everybody in America?
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Why are we paying for all this protection?
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Now?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I do think it is good to make sure Europe
is faces. They've had two World wars. We don't need
another war. Yes, they should be paying five percent, absolutely now.
And I do want to say, and people probably can
hear from my accent, I was born in England. I
have a British passport and an American passport. I'm proud
of my English heritage, but I'm an American by choice.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
I do want to make mentioned that only Great Britain.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
And Poland and then some of the Eastern European countries
were the ones that would pay their full fair share
of their two percent or two point five percent, But
certainly France never did, and Germany only recently as stepsound.
So I think it's a great thing that Donald Trump
is making them step up to pay this five percent.
They should have done a long time ago. Better late
than never. Well done, Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
See her regular appearances on Newsmax.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Follow her YouTube channel at Hillary Fordwich with one L
Hillary Fordwich frd W I c H Hillary. Always great
catching up. Thank you so much. We'll talk again soon, pleasure.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Thank you, Ryan, thanks you.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Your thoughts of reaction five seven seven three nine when
we come back, a conversation with Representative Randy Fine, sixth
Congressional District in Florida, working very closely with one of
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Speaker 13 (22:44):
Your reaction to these rioters literally holding the flag of
a foreign country while they attack, literally attack federal agents
on American soil.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I've introduced a bill with Brandon gil that would hold
those people accountable as if they were harboring illegal immigrants.
If you do this behavior, you should be rounded up
and you should put in jail. They shouldn't just be
taking into custody the illegal immigrants, they should be taking
into the into custody the ones that are protecting them.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Representative Randy Fine joining us. Representative Fine, thank you so
much for taking.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
The time, my pleasure, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Now the big beautiful bill and what we're looking forward
to when it comes to border security and the funding
of wall. What does this do once it kicks into action.
Why was it so important to pass through the House.
In the Senate, We have to.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Remember that for decades Democrats have told us that the
only way we could have border security, the only way
we could have a wall, the only way we could
stop more illegals coming was if we gave amnesty to
all the ones who are already here. And thanks to
President Trump and Dave Evans, who's one of my colleagues
here in the House, we said no. And when we
passed the One Big Beautiful Bill, we have locked down
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the border. The wall will be built. We have dramatically
increased funding for book customs and border protection and ice,
and we're going to get all these people out of here.
And that's going to have huge positive effects on regular Americans.
People's car insurance will go down, housing prices will go down,
what we spend on healthcare will go down, what we
spent on education go down because the illegal immigrants are
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a huge suck on our expenditures in the economy. And
so that's why Gabe Evans and I were excited to
vote for the One to Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
And Gabe Evans, of course representing Colorado's eighth Congressional district.
Many of you listeners in this audience are proud to
call him your representative, and Randy Fine representing the fine
people of the sixth Congressional District in Florida. Assuming that
a position from Mike Waltz, who vacated for the Trump
administration at least early on, Congressman Fine, I wanted you
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to respond to Tom Holman in this exchange along these
lines on this topic with CNN's Dana Bash and again
it's just a matter of priorities here and putting American
citizens first, something I think is lost on the CNN anchor.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
You just said that there are called collateral arrests that
is sparking fear in communities where people are again it's
scared to go out.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
So I guess my question is if you.
Speaker 14 (25:10):
Have compassion for those people who are seeing what's going on,
hearing you speak, seeing what's happening in their neighborhoods, shouldn't
have any concern, but do just because.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Of the reality.
Speaker 9 (25:25):
But Dana, the bottom line is if you want less
collabor arrest and let us in the jail.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
This just boggles my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Representative find it's the fear mongering of the media that's
putting this irrational fear in the minds of legal citizens,
legal immigrants in this country. People are here on legal visas.
Those people, of course are going to be allowed to stay.
But there's this conflation between illegal aliens and legal immigrants
that the media, it seems, is purposely putting out there
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into the ether.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Well, I actually think it's worse than that. I think
what Dana bash is talking about is this fear of
non criminal illegal aliens. She's basically saying there are good
illegal immigrants and bad illegal immigrants, and when we're trying
to round up the bad illegal immigrants, some of what
she considers the good illegal immigrants will get caught up
in it. They're the ones who are, she says, are
being afraid. And my answer to that is good. They
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all need to go home. Everything that's happened since an
illegal immigrant came to the United States is fruit from
the poisonous tree. And that's why in Florida, where I represent,
we built Alligator Alcatraz, which I passed a bill when
I was in the legislature to authorize. It's not just
about getting the illegals deported, it's about them going home
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on their own. And that's why it's amazing. You know,
two million illegal immigrants have left the country on their
own since President Trump got elected. It's time for the
illegals to go home.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Follow him on exit.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Rep.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Fine Congressman Randy Fine joining US sixth Congressional District of Florida.
I saw a clip from your cohort in the state
of Florida wi Ouserman Schultz. I know you're a big
fan of hers, but talking about the conditions at Alligator
Alcatraz for these individuals that are being held, and as
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Governorn De Santis has reemphasized, these are illegal aliens being
held temporarily before they're being deported. That's happening, that's going
to happen. But then you look, Congressman Fine at the
lights the types of individuals that are being held there,
and she's complaining that they're having to go to the
bathroom in the same place where they brush their teeth.
I do that too, it's called a bathroom. I've done
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that for my own apartment. But your response to her
and the Democrats, it seemed like there was a lot
of kind of playing to the cameras after they toured
the facilities there and just what the truth is behind it.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, I wish Democrats cared about Americans as much as
they cared about foreigners. Keep in mind, you've got Americans
right now that are struggling to make ends meet, and
part of the reason they're struggling to do that is
they're having to pay for foreigners Medicaid, for their food stamps,
for their health care, for their housing, and it's just
not right. And look, if Alligator Alcatraz is not a
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place for illegal immigrants to go on vacation, it is
not only about help getting people deported, it's about saying,
if you don't leave on your own, this is where
you're going to end up. We need to reject the
premise the Democrats that put out there that anyone who
wants can come to America for any reason they want
and get all the free stuff they want. An Alligator
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Alcatraz sends a message that in Florida, if you're here illegally,
you are going to be sent home. You might as
well leave on your own.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It just seems, Congressman, find that the left, the Democrats,
they're finding themselves on the short end of all of
these eighty twenty issues, this being one of them. But
another one I know that's near and dear to your
heart is a committee hearing there on Capitol Hill in
Washington entitled and Anti Semitism and Higher Education examining the
role of faculty funding and ideology, this one being chaired
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by my former congressman in Southern Michigan, Tim Wahlberg. There
as well, what we've seen in this tolerance and embrace
really of anti Semitism. We see it in the form
of Zora Mamdani, the nominee by the Democrats for the
mayor of New York City, refusing to condemn the phrase
globalize the Intafada.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That should be a layup, it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And then we see the DNC chair going, well, we're
a big tent party and we need the anti Semites too.
I mean, how do you even respond to that?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Well, I think it's scary. Look, I was the only
Jewish Republican in the Florida Legislature during my time in
the House. I'm one of only four here in Congress,
and it is very troubling to see the mainstreaming of
anti Semitism because, make no mistake, anti Semitism is anti Westernism.
Christianity was built on the Jewish foundation. It's anti Americanism,
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and we have to be concerned with these people who
hate America. Now, what we're seeing on college campus is
it's largely funded by our enemies, by the Kataris, by
the Chinese. None of it's organic. And one of the
big takeaways I think we need to take away from
all of this is when we're done dealing with illegal immigration,
we have to deal with legal immigration. It was America's
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choice to let people who hate America like Rashida to
leave and elon Omar and Mandami they're Americans. That was
a choice. And if you don't share our values, you
should not be invited to be part of our country.
And that is something we have to fix moving forward.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Representative Randy Fine the sixth Congressional District down in Florida
joining us here, and I just want to get your
comment on an ostensible moderate. You mentioned you're one of
four Jewish Republicans in the Congress, and that is your counterpart,
also from Florida, Jared Moskowitz, a Democrat. We've seen him,
you know, make sense on this issue in particular, But
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have you had conversations with him about this anti Semitic
element in his own party, Like how can he remain
a Democrat and have this beyond his conscience that within
his own party the elements that you just mentioned are
looking to pull them to this radical extreme.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Well, I actually Jared the friend of mine and we've
served together in the Florida Legislature and many of the
bills that we passed dealing with anti Semitism. He was
my Democrat co sponsor, and I know that he struggles
with it. I mean it's hard. Look, we have anti
Semites in the Republican Party too. I don't want to
say that antisemitism as a monopoly on one party. The
problem is in his party they celebrate it, they lionize it,
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and they give awards to it. And I think it's
difficult for him. And I think one of the things
that Jared and other Jewish Democrats are going to have
to decide is can they stay in their own party.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a Jewish Democrat, but she's certainly
more liberal than Jared is. And I think it's a
I think it's a struggle, and you know, I wish
I wish they do one of two things. They either
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clear out the antisemitism, which I've tried to do in
my own party, or they leave it. But that's up
to them.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That committee hearing this morning, Committee on Education and Workforce,
shared by Representative Tim Wahlberg of Michigan and Randy Fine,
keeping a close eye on that as well. The hearing
entitled Anti Semitism and Higher Education, examining the role of
faculty funding and ideology. You can find him on ex
at Repfine representing Florida's sixth Congressional District. Randy Fine, our
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guest today. Randy, thank you so much for all that
you're doing in Congress, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Sounds good. I'll be at that hearing, so keep an
eye on it.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
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registered investment advisor. Paid advertisement. The more of these I
put together, Kelly, the less I can distinguish between President
Trump and President Trump and quote Sean Ferish.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Because he's a dummy, Like, there's no difference.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
There's no line of demarcation between where Sean Ferish begins, yes,
and where President Trump ends.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Uh huh, They're one and the same. Hey, why didn't
you ask him he's a dummy?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh my goodness. Got one more of those coming up
to close out the show. I want to make sure
we get to this. This is from attorney Bradley Edwards,
representing seventy trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein, speaking about Donald
Trump's involvement with that monster.
Speaker 15 (34:46):
Obviously, our current president has had relationships as I've seen
in the past, and there are those Katie Johnson and
maybe other victims who've accused Trump of being involved.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
In things like this.
Speaker 15 (34:56):
In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything
along those lines. Obviously, we're not a court of law
here right now. But are those claims of that case
was dropped? He was dropped before I went to court,
And your opinion as a lawyer and your experience, is
there anything you can say as to the validity of
those claims or whether or not there will be any
more about.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
That, nothing at all. The only thing that I.
Speaker 16 (35:18):
Can say about President Trump is that he is the
only person who in.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Two thousand and nine, when I served.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
A lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or
at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that
I was going that I wanted to talk to them.
He is the only person who picked up the phone
and said.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Let's just talk.
Speaker 16 (35:40):
I'll give you as much time as you want, I'll
tell you what you need to know, and was very
helpful in the information that he gave and gave no
indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever,
but had good information that checked out and that helped us,
and that we didn't have to take a.
Speaker 15 (35:58):
Deposition of him thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I was in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 15 (36:02):
So do you know if there's any truth to James
Patterson's claims that Trump kicks Epstein out of morlogo.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I've definitely heard that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Okay, that's what I've heard too. I mean, this all fits,
and yet it doesn't. So if Donald Trump was willing
to cooperate and provide information that was so helpful back. Then,
Why is he giving any of these Epstein cohorts any
quarter whatsoever, Give them no quarter, spare them nothing. Where
is this love and mercy coming for these people that
(36:30):
had nefarious connections to Epstein, including most likely Bill Clinton?
And why are the Democrats the ones pushing for the
Epstein files release. It's bizarro world. I'll try to figure
it out during the break. John Calbert Independence Institute next
Judicial committee hearing that would be most likely the committee
where a Julie Maxwell would testify.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Would have you in favor of that? Absolutely? Yes, yes,
of course we want answers. And no one is satisfied
with what has been received or lack thereof. No one
is satisfied with the rollout of this. Of course we've
heard that Dan Bongino is not satisfied with the rollout
of this either. And you know, I mean, I think
you hear time and time again, what an honorable stand
(00:27):
up man Dan Bongino is.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He obviously thinks highly of Attorney General Pam BONDI. I
don't know her personally, but I know Dan and he's
a wonderful man and I have no reason to doubt him.
And I think moving forward, we need a special counsel.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That has got to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There has to be a special investigation into this. If
we aren't going to be provided information.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
That is why she's one of our favorite representative, Lauren
Bobert right there, uncowed by a Republican party. This has
really gotten strange over this last Regarding the so called
Epstein files, do they exist, will they be released?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Why are they being held up?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Why does President Trump continue to step in and not
only defend Pam Bondi the Attorney General, which I may
add and repeat, Pam Bondi would not be going rogue,
acting all on her own here and obfuscating on the
Epstein files unless she was directed to do so by
the President. And what proves that to me was that
(01:28):
cabinet meeting in which he stepped in when she was
being asked a question about the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And say, you still talking about that's old news? Is
a great what do you want?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And he was trying to distract and deflect from that topic.
He doesn't do that. That is not President Trump's mo.
And that's why I found it so bizarre, peculiar, concerning,
and he really did it again today. But what I'm
refreshed to hear from Representative Bobert there is she is
not going along with a Republican subcommittee that voted again
(01:59):
again the Democrats for the release.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Of the Epstein files.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And as she just spoke about there with Benny Johnson,
the conservative commentator podcast host, that she favors bringing in
Julaane Maxwell, having her testify. Let's get this all out
in the open. Let's let the chips fall where they may.
I've always been in this position on this topic because
(02:23):
it's important to get at the truth. There were young women,
girls who were victimized repeatedly on Epstein Island. There is
more than just anecdotal evidence or suggestion or speculation or
rum or. In any window that this went on, it
went on. There are flight logs, there is a black
book with a list of clients. Now, the degree to
(02:44):
which Jeffrey Epstein was connected to these various individuals needs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
To be sorted out.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But when the likes of Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's former attorney,
comes forward, comes out and says, let's let her rip.
I've got nothing to hide, and I know when the
truth comes out, I'll be exonerated, said Alan Dershowitz, because
he was implicated at one time, he was accused of
participating in this, and then the accuser ended up recanting that.
(03:14):
And that is the young woman, unfortunately, who died within
the last calendar year.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
But if Dershowitz is.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Front and center going no, let's do this, it makes
you wonder why Donald Trump is so opposed to doing
the same. We know that his name has been mentioned
with Jeffrey Epstein. We also know the following. This is
a fact you can check on the calendar yourself, in
the timeline of events. When Donald Trump discovered what Jeffrey
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Epstein was up to kind of the sordid underworld that
he was a part of what happened, Epstein was banned
from mar A Lago and Trump cut all ties to him. Now,
if that is in fact the case, which I believe
that it is, who else then would Trump be protecting here?
There's no doubt going to be names on both sides
the political spectrum. I don't care Republicans Democrats. If you
(04:03):
were participating in this, you got to go and you
gots to get found out. There is nothing that remotely
suggests that the right move here is to continue to
run cover for the likes of Prince Andrew or Bill
Clinton or Bill Gates or whoever else is on that list.
Jeffrey Epstein suicided himself for a reason, not just for nothing,
(04:26):
Not just for nothing. Julane Maxwell is in prison for
a reason, and it wasn't just because they were trafficking
girls to one another. That doesn't hold water as an argument,
so Representative Bobert saying there should be a special counsel.
We'll get to who she thinks it should be in
just a moment. But this was Donald Trump earlier today.
(04:47):
We've got two installments of Trump's hot takes for you
that are hilarious. But again, this answer, this is blinding
in the gas lighting from the President himself. I don't
like it. I don't like being lied to. I don't
like being condescended to. I don't like being made a
fool of. And I don't like being told of fairy
(05:10):
tale that we know darn well is not the case.
Here is President Trump fielding this question on Pam Bondi,
her status as Attorney General, what kind of job she's doing,
and what she might do as it pertains to the
Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
What did she tell you about put you in specifically?
Think she'd tell you all that your name up here.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
And no, she's she's given us just a very quick briefing.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And in terms of the credibility of.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
The different things that they've seen, and I would say
that you know, these files were made up by Komi,
they were made up by Obama, they were made up
by the Biden from you know, uh we and we
went through years of that with the Russia Russia Russia hoax,
with all of the different things.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
That we had to go through.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it
very well and it's gonna be up there. Whatever she
thinks is credible, she should release.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay, that's the key part right there.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Whatever she Pam Bondi thinks is credible regarding the Epstein
file should be released.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But Kelly, what do you make.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Of President Trump putting this out there like it's some
kind of Democrat hoax?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Komy was behind it?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
James Comy, former director of the FBI, Barack Obama, Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That doesn't make sense to me. That doesn't track at all.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It doesn't. I'm not really sure what's going on with
this whole story. But there's something obviously that we don't
know that is going to come out later. I mean
has to at this point. They can't just hide this,
and it's really not a good look for this administry.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, there's two things again that I'm cutting right through
the bs on this for all of us, because no,
we're right. Representative Lauren Bobert is right, she's on the
right side of this. Oh heard Bondi say this, Oh,
there's child pornography. We're not going to release that filth
that Jeffrey Epstein's a monster idiot.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That's not the point. That's not the purpose of the exercise.
That's not the question we're asking. So lose me, miss
me with that. Then there's the argument that, well, like
I was saying earlier, there may be names that were
in there, but I mean, Jeffrey Epstein could have wrote
anybody's name in there. It doesn't mean the person was guilty.
Well that's fine. Then then let it all come out
in the wash. If your name was on there and
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you had any kind of encounter with them, you can
go ahead and explain that to the American people, because
you have to know, as inconvenient as that might be,
you know that you're gonna have to offer up some
kind of plausible deniability or explanation as to why you
had any kind of interaction with him at all. Melinda
Gates reportedly in large part left Bill Gates why because
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of his association, affiliation, friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. The smoke
stream crap that is not going to cut it. And
Representative Bobert went one step further. I found this interesting
based on some of the allegations behind the scenes as
it pertains to Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So this is certainly important and I want answers, and
maybe that takes that special counsel to do. So maybe
Matt Gates can lead the special Council.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Would you vote bear of that? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, you know, Matt spoke highly of Pam Bondie and saying,
you know that she's the best attorney general that President
Trump has had. But yeah, Matt Gates as a special counsel.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Absolutely. I don't know about Matt Gates.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I do like the idea of a special counsel because
I want to get to the truth of the matter.
We got to the bloom is off the rose here
and we got to get cut to the quick as
to what is the truth. Veritas seek the truth wherever
it leads come what may let the chips fall?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And we're going to know all these details.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Why so we can prevent something like this from ever
happening again. There's always been these allusions to the corrupt
power of Washington and throughout the world, this cabal, this
kind of a nefarious underpinning of those who are in
power that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Play by a special set of rules.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And I know this is fiction, but you might recall
the central plot to taken with Liam Neeson. Remember that
you have all these well to do Saudi princes and
stuff bidding on women. And you know, you think that's
the stuff of fiction, but it gives it legs and kerosene,
not just gasoline. A story like this when there continues
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to be this element of those who are in power,
a deep state protecting others who would be in power
or have access to power.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And I ain't about that life, not one bit.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So your thoughts five seven, seven, three nine, you can
text those in as well. We've got those hot takes
from President Trump coming in just a little bit. But
the worm is turning. When it comes to the economy.
The tariffs appear to be working and generating revenue, the
big beautiful bill and there will be a substantial.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Tax cut associated with that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
The stock market appears to be thriving, not the opposite.
Scott Besson has pointed out the Secretary of the Treasury
unemployment is down, job numbers going up for American citizens,
down for illegals, and Ken Lang gone, the Home Depot
co founder, not a very big fan of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Willie is. Now, look, let me.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Tell you right now, I am sold on Trump. In fact,
I'll say this, I think he's got a good shot
at going down in history. He's one of my best
presidents ever.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That is a real turnaround because you didn't want.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
To vote for him. I told you the reason.
Speaker 9 (10:39):
I want to tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm a believer.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
What I'm seeing happening is is absolutely nothing short of
a great thing.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And there's a beat. The people are walking with more bounce,
and it's all around.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
There's a beat, people are walking more balance. I like
how he describes this, but he's right. And then he
admits that Joe Kernan was giving him a hard time.
But Joe was right. And you admit when you're wrong,
and the real man admits when he's wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I gave you quite a bit of grief.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Huh. I gave you grief? Can you give me grief?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I gave you grief when it was a binary choice.
You're still complaining about Trump and it was a binary choice.
It's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (11:17):
Acknowledge implies one thing when you made a mistake, admitted, Okay,
I think this guy is turning out to be a president.
One of the Polish on that miraculous trip to Iran
that we wiped out, now we wiped out, but she said,
you're the only guy that and the presidency that would
have done what you did. One of the Polish said that,
(11:39):
and you know what, he's probably right.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, she's a global business development leader herself. And one
of our favorite guests to have on the program. Joining
us on Ryan Schuling Live right now is Hillary Fordwitch. Hillary,
thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yes, you're absolutely welcome, tuture to be back with you again.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What do you make of.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The Home Depot co founder singing the praises of Trump
when he wasn't really sold on him to begin with?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Well, Ryan, I think he's actually like a lot of people,
and I actually don't blame people individually. One of the
things I've always said is people will say things like I'm.
Speaker 10 (12:11):
Googling this as if it's getting information. It's not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's left wing propaganda. A lot of our higher education
has become left wing, social media has become left wing.
You mentioned in your opening monlogue there about this sort
of being in the deep state and those that are privilege.
There have been this list left leaning Deep States. I
think a lot of people, even highly educated, well informed
people like him, I think that they watch somebody who
(12:36):
an said to me, oh, the news we watch is like,
you know, we don't want propaganda, so we watch ABC
and NBC. I was like, yeah, the legacy media. You
don't think that's propaganda. So I think a lot of
people have been fed a lot of misinformation and now
they're seeing the facts, they're seeing the results. And one
of the things I've said many, many, many times is
I wish we could have a constitutional.
Speaker 10 (12:57):
Amendment that to run for any kind of.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You have to have done one of two things, and
preferably both either one made payroll in other words, run
a business, or two served in our military.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Then you really get it. I run a business.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
People who run businesses know how to make money, know
how to budget, know that you could money doesn't come
out of the clear blue sky. At Margaret Saturus and
say there's no such thing as a free lunch, and
I think, whyan We have too many politicians like politicians
that were lawyers. No dis against lawyers. My daddy was
a lawyer. You know, lawyers have their virtues, but they
(13:34):
are not necessarily capable of running businesses, growing business or
making payroll. And this nation basically has to have businesses
that can run and do well and be run more
like a business. And that's what Trump's doing. And so
that's why I think you're thing not only that CEO
from Home Depot, but a lot of other people feeling
the same way.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
She is the president of straw Mark LC. She's Hillary
with one L. You get the other L to the
other Hillary, she takes the L. Hillary Fordwich only piles
up the WS. You got a W in her last
name too. There and you can follow her latest on YouTube.
That's where I go to for all of the latest video.
She appears on Newsmax often at Hillary Fordwich is where
you can find her there.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Hillary.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
A lot of people were very skeptical about the Trump
tariffs out of the gate, that they would have a
crippling effect on the economy, that they would forward business
and development, and yet it seems at least playing it
out over the long term and has not had those
adverse effects. As I mentioned, Scott Bessen made mention of that,
what is your analysis of the tariffs as a means
to an end, because we're seeing Donald Trump, the president,
(14:36):
crank out all these deals, the most recent of which
just two hours ago announced with Indonesia as a means
to an end tariff's.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Do they work?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Is it just a specific example in this case where
Donald Trump is making them work through the power negotiation?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What is your stance on that?
Speaker 11 (14:51):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, thank you post rule so Ryan for mentioning my YouTube. Actually,
people go to my YouTube, they'll see that. One of
my recent posts is one where I said, who made
previous trade deals? Makes a trade deal for amp. I'll
just give you one example with the EU where we
are exporting to them, stucked over six billion dollars worth
of cars and they were and then we were importing
over eighty three billion and they had We only had
(15:13):
a two percent paris on European cars. And I'm sure
many people listening to our show today have seen a
German car, They have seen cars coming from Europe. But
you go to Europe you do not see many American cars.
Why because the EU slaps on a ten percent tariff.
So I think this term that Trumps uses, this term
about reciprocity. Why should we have two percent and they
have ten percent. If they think ten percent is fine,
(15:35):
then we'll make it ten percent.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
And that's one of.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
The things he's already said that anybody who decides to retaliate, which,
by the way, the EU is discussing at the moment,
anyone who decides to retaliate against the US, whatever task
they slap on will just match it. I think that's
actually very fair. Now to answer your question directly with
regard to tariffs and do they work, yes, Let's look
at a historical example. In the eighteen seventies, we were
(16:00):
a wealthy nation, Ryan and every member of our.
Speaker 10 (16:03):
Audience should head hose to this.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
We had to have a national Blue Ribbon Commission established
just to determine how to spend all the money. And
that was all coming from teris. Do you know there
was no such thing as income tax until just around
the time of the First World War. We didn't even
have income tax. So I think, yes, a tax on
consumption is far better than the regressive tax that actually
(16:25):
penalizes work. No, let's encourage work, let's encourage productivity. Let's
encourage manufacturing, which is what President Trump is doing. He's
having American manufacturing reshaw back in the US you create
American jobs. Tell me the member of our audience who says, no,
thank you, I don't want to make a paycheck and
I don't want a job Hillery.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Ford, which our guest.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
One other comment I wanted to get to is the
response that Donald Trump as president is getting from world
leaders like NATO Chief Mark Route, and he is of
course a big fan of our president, and he explains
here that Donald Trump angling for NATO to pay more
for the defense of Ukraine totally logical.
Speaker 10 (17:02):
This is really big.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You called me all Thursday that you have.
Speaker 12 (17:05):
Taken a decision, and the decision is that you want
to brain Brodie to have to maintain to be able
to defend itself against Russia. But you go want to
your peas to pay for it, which is totally logical.
And this is building all the tremendous success of the
NATO sonnet, the five percent, but also the decision to
(17:28):
keep you create strong and the decision to increase our
defense indusal production. So based on that, that was your
stepping up. This is again Europeans stepping up. So I've
been in contact for many countries. I can tell you
at this moment in Germany massively but also Finland and
Denmark and Sweden and Norvating, Kingda, Pnemens, Canada. They all
(17:51):
want to be part of this. And this is only
the first wave.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
There will be more, and suddenly all the NATO nations
that he mentions are falling in the line. And I
just note the contrast here, Hillary, between Donald Trump, the
iconic image Kelly and I talk about it often where
he's got his arms crossed and write it his side
rip Shinzo Abi, the Prime Minister of Japan at that time,
and then leading over was the Prime Minister of Germany
and all these other European countries listening in. Trump is
(18:16):
the alpha, commanding respect at the table and getting things done?
Is it that projection of strength alone, that is the
force of nature, that is Donald Trump that gets things done?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, yeah, he gets things done one hundred percent correct oryon.
He gets things done. But he also gets things done.
He's not a fool, He's a smart man. He does
things actually that is for.
Speaker 10 (18:35):
The benefit of other nations as well.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
He has a way of appealing and showing them what's
in their best interest. And if I could make mention
about the pip you just played smart rut so people
know that that accent is a Dutch accent. He was
the Prime Minister of Holland.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
Very smart.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Man has done very well. He has done very well
at uniting Europe and getting them all on board.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
And I'll remind.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Everyone of what Henry Kissinger said. He said, I'll believe
in one EU and there's one phone number for me
to call. So we must remember this is twenty seven
nations and is HEARDing them as worse than trying to
herd cats.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
So don't forget.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Obviously, the Germans share about their cars and the French
chair about their wine making. So Marca Route, I just
gave him a lot of respect. He's doing very well.
You said he's a big admirer of Donald Trump. He
is because he's a straight ut, straight.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
Shooting, good businessman.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Now to actually this point about the five percent, the
Europeans paying five percent of NATO. Could you imagine are
being a Belgian taxpayer, a British taxpayer, or a French taxpayer.
Excuse me, We'd like you to pay taxes so that
you can fund the protection of the US southern border
and northern border. They'd look at you and say, and
(19:39):
the French would say why no, why no? The English
would say, what are you talking about? Of course they
wouldn't do that. But why is the American taxpayer?
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Why am I?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Why is Ryan? Why is Kelly? Why is everybody in America?
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Why are we paying for all this protection?
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Now?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I do think it is good to make sure Europe
is faces. They've had two World wars. We don't need
another war. Yes, they should be paying five percent, absolutely now.
And I do want to say, and people probably can
hear from my accent, I was born in England. I
have a British passport and an American passport. I'm proud
of my English heritage, but I'm an American by choice.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
I do want to make mentioned that only Great Britain.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
And Poland and then some of the Eastern European countries
were the ones that would pay their full fair share
of their two percent or two point five percent, But
certainly France never did, and Germany only recently as stepsound.
So I think it's a great thing that Donald Trump
is making them step up to pay this five percent.
They should have done a long time ago. Better late
than never. Well done, Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
See her regular appearances on Newsmax.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Follow her YouTube channel at Hillary Fordwich with one L
Hillary Fordwich frd W I c H Hillary. Always great
catching up. Thank you so much. We'll talk again soon, pleasure.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Thank you, Ryan, thanks you.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Your thoughts of reaction five seven seven three nine when
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Congressional District in Florida, working very closely with one of
our own here in Colorado, and that's Representative Gabe Evans
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a sampling of what he's been up to in Congress
representing the sixth district in Florida.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
Your reaction to these rioters literally holding the flag of
a foreign country while they attack, literally attack federal agents
on American soil.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I've introduced a bill with Brandon gil that would hold
those people accountable as if they were harboring illegal immigrants.
If you do this behavior, you should be rounded up
and you should put in jail. They shouldn't just be
taking into custody the illegal immigrants, they should be taking
into the into custody the ones that are protecting them.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Representative Randy Fine joining us. Representative Fine, thank you so
much for taking.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
The time, my pleasure, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Now the big beautiful bill and what we're looking forward
to when it comes to border security and the funding
of wall. What does this do once it kicks into action.
Why was it so important to pass through the House.
In the Senate, We have to.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Remember that for decades Democrats have told us that the
only way we could have border security, the only way
we could have a wall, the only way we could
stop more illegals coming was if we gave amnesty to
all the ones who are already here. And thanks to
President Trump and Dave Evans, who's one of my colleagues
here in the House, we said no. And when we
passed the One Big Beautiful Bill, we have locked down
(23:53):
the border. The wall will be built. We have dramatically
increased funding for book customs and border protection and ice,
and we're going to get all these people out of here.
And that's going to have huge positive effects on regular Americans.
People's car insurance will go down, housing prices will go down,
what we spend on healthcare will go down, what we
spent on education go down because the illegal immigrants are
(24:15):
a huge suck on our expenditures in the economy. And
so that's why Gabe Evans and I were excited to
vote for the One to Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
And Gabe Evans, of course representing Colorado's eighth Congressional district.
Many of you listeners in this audience are proud to
call him your representative, and Randy Fine representing the fine
people of the sixth Congressional District in Florida. Assuming that
a position from Mike Waltz, who vacated for the Trump
administration at least early on, Congressman Fine, I wanted you
(24:43):
to respond to Tom Holman in this exchange along these
lines on this topic with CNN's Dana Bash and again
it's just a matter of priorities here and putting American
citizens first, something I think is lost on the CNN anchor.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
You just said that there are called collateral arrests that
is sparking fear in communities where people are again it's
scared to go out.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
So I guess my question is if you.
Speaker 14 (25:10):
Have compassion for those people who are seeing what's going on,
hearing you speak, seeing what's happening in their neighborhoods, shouldn't
have any concern, but do just because.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Of the reality.
Speaker 9 (25:25):
But Dana, the bottom line is if you want less
collabor arrest and let us in the jail.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
This just boggles my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Representative find it's the fear mongering of the media that's
putting this irrational fear in the minds of legal citizens,
legal immigrants in this country. People are here on legal visas.
Those people, of course are going to be allowed to stay.
But there's this conflation between illegal aliens and legal immigrants
that the media, it seems, is purposely putting out there
(25:53):
into the ether.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Well, I actually think it's worse than that. I think
what Dana bash is talking about is this fear of
non criminal illegal aliens. She's basically saying there are good
illegal immigrants and bad illegal immigrants, and when we're trying
to round up the bad illegal immigrants, some of what
she considers the good illegal immigrants will get caught up
in it. They're the ones who are, she says, are
being afraid. And my answer to that is good. They
(26:18):
all need to go home. Everything that's happened since an
illegal immigrant came to the United States is fruit from
the poisonous tree. And that's why in Florida, where I represent,
we built Alligator Alcatraz, which I passed a bill when
I was in the legislature to authorize. It's not just
about getting the illegals deported, it's about them going home
(26:38):
on their own. And that's why it's amazing. You know,
two million illegal immigrants have left the country on their
own since President Trump got elected. It's time for the
illegals to go home.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Follow him on exit.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Rep.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Fine Congressman Randy Fine joining US sixth Congressional District of Florida.
I saw a clip from your cohort in the state
of Florida wi Ouserman Schultz. I know you're a big
fan of hers, but talking about the conditions at Alligator
Alcatraz for these individuals that are being held, and as
(27:11):
Governorn De Santis has reemphasized, these are illegal aliens being
held temporarily before they're being deported. That's happening, that's going
to happen. But then you look, Congressman Fine at the
lights the types of individuals that are being held there,
and she's complaining that they're having to go to the
bathroom in the same place where they brush their teeth.
I do that too, it's called a bathroom. I've done
(27:32):
that for my own apartment. But your response to her
and the Democrats, it seemed like there was a lot
of kind of playing to the cameras after they toured
the facilities there and just what the truth is behind it.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, I wish Democrats cared about Americans as much as
they cared about foreigners. Keep in mind, you've got Americans
right now that are struggling to make ends meet, and
part of the reason they're struggling to do that is
they're having to pay for foreigners Medicaid, for their food stamps,
for their health care, for their housing, and it's just
not right. And look, if Alligator Alcatraz is not a
(28:05):
place for illegal immigrants to go on vacation, it is
not only about help getting people deported, it's about saying,
if you don't leave on your own, this is where
you're going to end up. We need to reject the
premise the Democrats that put out there that anyone who
wants can come to America for any reason they want
and get all the free stuff they want. An Alligator
(28:27):
Alcatraz sends a message that in Florida, if you're here illegally,
you are going to be sent home. You might as
well leave on your own.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It just seems, Congressman, find that the left, the Democrats,
they're finding themselves on the short end of all of
these eighty twenty issues, this being one of them. But
another one I know that's near and dear to your
heart is a committee hearing there on Capitol Hill in
Washington entitled and Anti Semitism and Higher Education examining the
role of faculty funding and ideology, this one being chaired
(28:55):
by my former congressman in Southern Michigan, Tim Wahlberg. There
as well, what we've seen in this tolerance and embrace
really of anti Semitism. We see it in the form
of Zora Mamdani, the nominee by the Democrats for the
mayor of New York City, refusing to condemn the phrase
globalize the Intafada.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That should be a layup, it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And then we see the DNC chair going, well, we're
a big tent party and we need the anti Semites too.
I mean, how do you even respond to that?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Well, I think it's scary. Look, I was the only
Jewish Republican in the Florida Legislature during my time in
the House. I'm one of only four here in Congress,
and it is very troubling to see the mainstreaming of
anti Semitism because, make no mistake, anti Semitism is anti Westernism.
Christianity was built on the Jewish foundation. It's anti Americanism,
(29:45):
and we have to be concerned with these people who
hate America. Now, what we're seeing on college campus is
it's largely funded by our enemies, by the Kataris, by
the Chinese. None of it's organic. And one of the
big takeaways I think we need to take away from
all of this is when we're done dealing with illegal immigration,
we have to deal with legal immigration. It was America's
(30:06):
choice to let people who hate America like Rashida to
leave and elon Omar and Mandami they're Americans. That was
a choice. And if you don't share our values, you
should not be invited to be part of our country.
And that is something we have to fix moving forward.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Representative Randy Fine the sixth Congressional District down in Florida
joining us here, and I just want to get your
comment on an ostensible moderate. You mentioned you're one of
four Jewish Republicans in the Congress, and that is your counterpart,
also from Florida, Jared Moskowitz, a Democrat. We've seen him,
you know, make sense on this issue in particular, But
(30:41):
have you had conversations with him about this anti Semitic
element in his own party, Like how can he remain
a Democrat and have this beyond his conscience that within
his own party the elements that you just mentioned are
looking to pull them to this radical extreme.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Well, I actually Jared the friend of mine and we've
served together in the Florida Legislature and many of the
bills that we passed dealing with anti Semitism. He was
my Democrat co sponsor, and I know that he struggles
with it. I mean it's hard. Look, we have anti
Semites in the Republican Party too. I don't want to
say that antisemitism as a monopoly on one party. The
problem is in his party they celebrate it, they lionize it,
(31:19):
and they give awards to it. And I think it's
difficult for him. And I think one of the things
that Jared and other Jewish Democrats are going to have
to decide is can they stay in their own party.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a Jewish Democrat, but she's certainly
more liberal than Jared is. And I think it's a
I think it's a struggle, and you know, I wish
I wish they do one of two things. They either
(31:40):
clear out the antisemitism, which I've tried to do in
my own party, or they leave it. But that's up
to them.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That committee hearing this morning, Committee on Education and Workforce,
shared by Representative Tim Wahlberg of Michigan and Randy Fine,
keeping a close eye on that as well. The hearing
entitled Anti Semitism and Higher Education, examining the role of
faculty funding and ideology. You can find him on ex
at Repfine representing Florida's sixth Congressional District. Randy Fine, our
(32:08):
guest today. Randy, thank you so much for all that
you're doing in Congress, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Sounds good. I'll be at that hearing, so keep an
eye on it.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Looking forward to that. We'll take a time out. We'll
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put together, Kelly, the less I can distinguish between President
Trump and President Trump and quote Sean Ferish.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Because he's a dummy, Like, there's no difference.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
There's no line of demarcation between where Sean Ferish begins, yes,
and where President Trump ends.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Uh huh, They're one and the same. Hey, why didn't
you ask him he's a dummy?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh my goodness. Got one more of those coming up
to close out the show. I want to make sure
we get to this. This is from attorney Bradley Edwards,
representing seventy trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein, speaking about Donald
Trump's involvement with that monster.
Speaker 15 (34:46):
Obviously, our current president has had relationships as I've seen
in the past, and there are those Katie Johnson and
maybe other victims who've accused Trump of being involved.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
In things like this.
Speaker 15 (34:56):
In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything
along those lines. Obviously, we're not a court of law
here right now. But are those claims of that case
was dropped? He was dropped before I went to court,
And your opinion as a lawyer and your experience, is
there anything you can say as to the validity of
those claims or whether or not there will be any
more about.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
That, nothing at all. The only thing that I.
Speaker 16 (35:18):
Can say about President Trump is that he is the
only person who in.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Two thousand and nine, when I served.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
A lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or
at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that
I was going that I wanted to talk to them.
He is the only person who picked up the phone
and said.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Let's just talk.
Speaker 16 (35:40):
I'll give you as much time as you want, I'll
tell you what you need to know, and was very
helpful in the information that he gave and gave no
indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever,
but had good information that checked out and that helped us,
and that we didn't have to take a.
Speaker 15 (35:58):
Deposition of him thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I was in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 15 (36:02):
So do you know if there's any truth to James
Patterson's claims that Trump kicks Epstein out of morlogo.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I've definitely heard that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Okay, that's what I've heard too. I mean, this all fits,
and yet it doesn't. So if Donald Trump was willing
to cooperate and provide information that was so helpful back. Then,
Why is he giving any of these Epstein cohorts any
quarter whatsoever, Give them no quarter, spare them nothing. Where
is this love and mercy coming for these people that
(36:30):
had nefarious connections to Epstein, including most likely Bill Clinton?
And why are the Democrats the ones pushing for the
Epstein files release. It's bizarro world. I'll try to figure
it out during the break. John Calbert Independence Institute next
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