July 15, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Ryan is joined by Jon Caldara to discuss the future of the Republican party, why Elon Musk's "America Party" won't work, and what to expect from Colorado's political landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And whither Elon musk Well, Mark Cuban has some thoughts,
and I've seen Rama Manuel, former chair of the DNC,
former mayor of Chicago, speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Along these same lines.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're talking about the Obama faction, the Obama wing of
a Democratic party that no longer recognizes itself. And Emmanuel's
warning like, look, we can't go to the far left
fringes of this party and expect to win the mainstream
of America and those electoral votes in flyover country. Mark Cuban,
who's no fan of Donald Trump, says, you know that
is not a strategy. What you're against only represents that
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which you oppose.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But what are you for? What do you support? Here's
Mark Cuban, It's just Trump sucks.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That's the underlying, you know, thought of everything the Democrats do,
Trump sucks. Trump says, you know this guy's blue. Trump sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's not the way to win. It's just not because
it's not about Trump. It's about the people of the
United States of America and what's good for them and
how do you get them to a place where they're
in a better position and it's less stressful for them.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
That's Mark Cuban and along these same lines, we're writing
this following piece and you can read it in Colorado Politics.
Elon Musk's Party Won't Dance in Colorado by John Caldera,
our next guest Independence Institute, and he says in a
portion of this saying, quote, we hate both of them
is a feeling, not a political goal.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's not a vision.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
If Elon wants a party that is fiscally conservative yet
socially liberal and proven to spoil elections, he need look no.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Further than the Libertarian Party.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's been around for a half a century, legally set
up and ready to roll in every state, and yet
it has not been a winning party. The one third
party movement we've seen that gained some traction and some
success was a Tross Perot.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
In ninety two and ninety six.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It would eventually become the Reform Party and Jesse Ventura
would win as an independent YEP, the former pro wrestler,
the former actor. He said famously that he was a
fiscally conservative but socially liberal, and he won the governor's
race in Minnesota in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
John Caldera joins us, now, John.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Welcome to it and just your thoughts going into Elon
Musk breaking away from Donald Trump. You described the breakup
as analogous to the Beatles, and it hurts just as
much for those of us that supported Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, it was a beautiful bromance. It was it was
a productive romance, and it was a great partnership. I
hate to see it. I hate to see it go
for all, for all those raiders. But the idea of
another party isn't going to isn't going to fly. And
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in my my world is much more in Colorado than
it is in Washington, d C. It's not going to
fly in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You say it's not going to fly in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And I'm always confused by there's a proliferation of unaffiliated voters,
yet when we measure them in elections, they typically vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And they do so against their interests.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
We were just talking about this, John throughout that there
are all these fees that are attached, these ends around
and Tabor is monumentally popular in this state for unaffiliated Republicans,
and I would say even a lot of Democrats alike.
They don't want their tax dollars touch without their permission,
without it having go to a ballot measure, and yet
the Democrats constantly looking for ways to implement fees and
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taxes without our permission, without our knowledge, including the governor
Jared Polis, who purports to be a libertarian. But these
small l, as you put it in your op ed,
small L libertarian sensibilities don't seem to translate into votes
when it comes to the fiscally conservative agenda that Democrats
directly oppose.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Absolutely, there's Kaallano is a libertarian state as long as
you don't use those terms that Colorado most Coloradin's. They're
not as liberal as our state government, and our cities
are being run and they're going to be running off
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a cliff at some point. The problem is that Colorado
despises the Republican Party. Colorado despises Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
About all Colorado. I'm talking about in the suburban areas
where you need to win, where you need to be
able to switch over, Rapido County, Adams County, Douglas County,
Jefferson County, these are these are the swing areas of Colorado.
You need them to win. And in those areas, Donald
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Trump is a pariah, and therefore people are not going
to vote for Republicans, so they end up just voting
for the Democrat, but the Democrat is out of touch.
There is a civil war going on inside the Colorado
Democratic movement between communists and just progressives, and the communists
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are winning. I say communists, but really they're the Democratic
Socialists and they they are so out of touch, but
they're going to stay in power until there's some sort
of alternative. I believe that alternative will be independents, that
will be unaffiliated voters that start in unaffiliated candidates that
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start winning in Colorado. You look no further than Colorado
Springs for the first time, and you know, I can't
remember how long there's an unaffiliated mayor. People want something different.
They're not going to vote for Republicans, but they're there.
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They still want government off their back. So I think
there's a real opportunity for unaffiliated candidates to start win
here in Colorado in the next few years.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
John Caldera Independence Institute joining us and you can follow
him on ex at John Caldera j O ncl DA
r A. Now the traditional two party system, John that
people would like an alternative two they are succeeding, And
I put those that word in quotes in spite of
themselves talking about Rama Manuel criticizing the Democratic Party it's
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veering hard to the left. We see that with Zora
Mundani earning the Democratic nomination for mayor in New York
City off the rails with the squad. We see even
elements of that here in Colorado, as you put a
Democratic Socialists that are pulling the party to the left
when it comes to policy positions and bills that they're
passing through the legislature that they're even getting Governor Jared
polo Is to sign who's a libertarian in name only?
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And even the Republicans, I mean, they've been disappointing to
a lot of people that have supported them, trying to
formulate a smaller government, a leaner, meaner spending budget, you know,
something like Robert Massey White support Ran Paul. Why is
it then that a third party has not been able
to thrive, to succeed to win against two parties that
can't get out of their own way, whether it's the
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Reform Party with parole. Libertarians never mount much of a
challenge in elections, despite the fact that they might have
a lot of good ideas, and now Elon Musk with
the America Party.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You say that's doomed for failure, But why is that?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Particularly Musk is doomed in Colorado because he's so disliked.
He's disliked from both sides. So remember, the fight for
Colorado is a fight for those undecided votes. Most of
those undecided votes despise Donald Trump, and anybody who helped
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get Donald Trump into office is not going to be
a popular It's not going to be a popular guy
to go follow his banner. At the same time, he's
going to get hurt by those people who love Donald Trump.
Because for the Trump crazies, if you if you come
out against Trump, you come out against their man, and
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they're not going to follow you either. So you're already
at a double disadvantage. Those people who love Trump aren't
going to follow you. Those people who hate Trump aren't
going to follow you. It's simply not something that's gonna
that's going to work here in Colorado. Uh. And you know,
I look at the Reform Party and people say it
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was a real party, maybe, but it didn't get a
single electoral vote after several presidential elections, not not one,
And it kind of reminded me of the Tea Party
in a way that when when there is an Anger Party,
it's not it's not a movement. Much like the clips
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who were playing at the beginning of this by Mark Cuban.
People know what they're against, that doesn't mean they know
what they're for, and so that lots of people against
what's going on. But there needs to be a shared
vision here, and when the Republican Party started, they had
a shared vision. It was abolition for the Democratic movement
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in Colorado. They had a shared vision, which was to
get marriage quality. Not Donald Trump is not a shared vision.
That's just not something that holds. And in order to
build a party, you need to hold together people who
want something. It was interesting that you remember the Green Party.
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The Green Party was wonderful. Everybody loved the Green Party
because it helped to screw up Democrats. It's kind of
what happens with the Libertarian Party for Republicans, but that
the left did something to get rid of the Green Party.
They just absorb them and every single one of their
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crazy environmentalist idea is and we're starting to pay the
price for that. So if Republicans want to win, they
need to be for something. And you cannot say Republicans
are for smaller government. Not after the big beautiful bill,
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not after every time that there is a Republican majority
of both houses and a Republican president. We just go
into debt Moore. So the Republican Party really is not
the party. A small government might be smaller compared, it's
still a growing, growing government. You know. I look at
what must did with Twitter. He said, we need we
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need a platform. He didn't build a new platform. He
just went out and bought Twitter. If you really want something,
you could infiltrate the Libertarian Party the way that that
Donald Trump took over the Republican Party. He's got the
money to do it, he's got the name recognition to
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do it. Who knows why build something from scratch and
you can buy something off the shelf.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
John Caldera Independence Institute, his latest entitled Elon Musk's Party
Won't Dance in Colorado. I'm watching the continuum of political
evolution in Colorado, John, and it seems, if anything, this
state is moving to the left politically, Democrats garnering more power,
higher percentage of the General Assembly, control of the governor's office.
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We see now we're talking about it at length today
about the eighteenth Judicial District with the twenty third cleaved
off in Douglas County where George Brockler's now the DA
and Amy Patten simply going off the rails basically with
a pro crime mindset, pro criminal mindset, pro defendant mindset,
rather than executing policies that would ensure law and order, prosecution,
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punishment for crime deterrens, etc. And I'm wondering in your
mind how bad it would have to get in Colorado
on which front. And we've talked about the skyrocketing cost
of living here. I know that's chief among your concerns.
You're very tuned into economic issues, taxation, those sorts of
things here in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's bad.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Parental rights advocates going nuts here in Colorado after passage
of thirteen twelve, and that's another rail of concern. And
then the crime epidemic that's been exploding in Colorado, as
I just mentioned, these permissive policies that are making life
less safe in this state. So for those unaffiliateds that
lean left the typically reflexively vote Democrat, is there anybody
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that would look at the state right now and say
we're in better off. We're in better shape overall as
a state across the board than we were when Jared
Polis was first elected in twenty eighteen. I can't imagine
many people, even Democrats would say yes.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh, communists would communist would look today, we're making great
gains in Colorado. One of my frustrations with the Republican Party.
I'd been a lifelong Republican. I'm now unaffiliated, but I
registered as as a Republican on my eighteenth birthday before
I went off and bought a beer, which you could
do legally, And that's kind of nerd I am, and
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I look at it, and Republicans in Colorado have a
hard time accepting reality that there are some things that
are not going to happen in Colorado. And I don't
want to break anybody's heart, but in the next ten
twenty years, you are not going to become an anti
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abortion state. It's not going to happen. We are not
going to become an anti pod state, or an anti
gay state, or an anti environmentalist state. The demographics aren't there.
So that's what you're wrapping yourself around. Go ahead, have fun,
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but understand you're only going to be turning off voters
on the area that is possible. In the area that
is possible is that Colorado. And you've mentioned it. Colorado
is not pro tax Colorado is not pro regulation, Colorado
is not pro crime, Colorado is not pro woke. And
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if you stick with those issues, you can win. But
for the next four to six years in those swing districts,
I believe, maybe I'm wrong, that if you have a
Republican title behind your name, you're just not going to
win in a general election. And I'm not talking about
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out in the hinderlands. I'm talking about in those swing districts,
those suburban districts where everything is decided in Colorado. Thus,
I believe in the future, if we change our system
so that unaffiliated candidates can have a shot at getting
to the getting to the general election, they're going to
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win because we just want people who will keep our
taxes low, but aren't going to be going off on
abortion because abortion is simply not a reachable goal in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
John Kelder, our guests want to give you a chance
to promote what you've just been working on here, John,
and I'm seeing a fascinating sit down conversation that you
had with constitutional expert Rob natelsin where can people find that?
And what stood out to you about that exchange.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I'll go to thinkfreedom dot org. I run the Independence Institute,
which for four decades now has been pointing to the
north Star for free market policy and limited government, and
we do a show called Devil's Advocate. You can watch
that every Friday night at eight thirty on Channel twelve,
or you can just go to thinkfreedom dot org and
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catch the YouTube of it. Rob Nielsen's our constitutional expert,
and I asked him these questions of you know, what
can people do, why do we you have only two
parties in the national system, and what can happen to
change it? And he's got the historic perspective of this,
which is just fascinating. So go to thinkfreedom dot org,
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sign up for our newsletter. It's a lot of fun.
You are not alone. If you want some common sense
back any government, well.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That's what he stands for at the Independence Institute Thinkfreedom
dot com and then also on x at John Caldera. John,
always appreciate your time and we'll look forward to the
next conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Looking forward to it, Ryan, Thank you five seven.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Seven thirty nine your text.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We'll go to those right now, Alexa with the following
two parter Prince Andrew did not step down for no reason.
That check true, and he's been disgraced from his royal
standing for sure. And following up both that, Alexa says,
there was an interview in twenty nineteen We're Prosecuting attorney
Bradley Edward, who represented Epstein victims, said that in two
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thousand and nine, when the prosecution was calling people about
Jeffrey Epstein, DJT was the only one who would talk
to them. Other elites would talk And yeah, we played
that audio for you at the end of the first
hour in case you missed it, you can check that
out on the podcast. Seems to be a uniform response
to this issue that nobody on our side who has
championed for this cause to reveal the Epstein list and
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shine a light on the darkness.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Nobody's going along with.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
President Trump's efforts to obfuscate it or shield it or
whatever's going on there. And I don't understand it, and
it's very frustrating to me. But Stephen Littleton, retired ELIO says,
open the Epstein investigation and put a stop to your
parent cover up, allow the truth to out. Representative Lauren
Bobert agrees with us, since she said so, I'm going
to sit down with Benny Johnson. Will have that audio
for you maybe in just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
The list is already out in Kathy O'Brien's book Transformation
of America. She was raped by people from Dick Cheney
to Trudeau, and she names names. It's even available and audible.
Now that'll be her account of things. Those are serious
accusations against Dick Cheney and Justin Trudeau. And that's probably
part of the concern that Donald Trump feels he's been
unfairly targeted with lawfare in the not so distant past,
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and that there may be names on here that have
been clouded by assembling files during the Obama administration VISAVI
James Comey, and he doesn't trust it, and I don't
blame him. But then that is the job of Pam
Bondy to sort through blank from Shinola. As my Grandpa
Shuling used to say, you got to know one from
the other and then present them that which is credible,
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which President Trump said today on the White House lawn
before boarding Marine One, that he will leave it at
the discretion of Pam Bondy to decide.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But something's got to come out. Laura Bobert's right, You
and I are right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
This can't just be allowed to hang out there, Patty
says Ryan twice in one day, win win and Representative
Gabe Evans. Wow, impressive so far, what a win for
Colorado to happen. You're absolutely right. He is a real
shining star in the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then Jim with this, Ryan, here's a twist.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
In an interview with Newsmax, Durshowitz said that there are
lists of names, but that any redacted or sealed materials
concerning Epstein are under the jurisdiction of the courts who
are suppressing the information, and that Attorney General Bondi and
the DOJ have released everything they can.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So why are the courts setting on this? Well, Jim,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And the other confusing part of this is Bill Clinton
is front and center in the targets of accusation, the
painting of him, the blue dress that Jeffrey Epstein had,
the flight logs that show him going to the on
the Lolita Express to Epstein Island. Many times like two
dozen or so times, and yet Aquem Jeffries Rocanna, lots
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of Democrats are coming out of the woodwork right now saying, hey,
release the Epstein files. Do they know something we don't
or those files doctored to maybe erase mill Clinton from them.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Anything's on the table. I'm not ruling anything out.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I've gone full Columbo detective on this case, and I
get my street smarts from my mom.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Rip time out. We're back with more after.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
This person accused of trying to grab a fifth grader
from a Cherry Creek school playground last year is incompetent
to stand trial, and for the fourth time in seven years,
that person will see the charges dropped because of incompetency,
though they're.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Being transferred to a mental health facility.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Kids at black Forest Hills Elementary School yelled stranger danger.
Solomon Gallaghan is accused of trying to grab a fifth
grader at recess in April twenty twenty four, almost one
year ago. Gallaghan was found incompetent to stand trial. Nine
News investigates looked into Gallaghan's criminal history and found felony
charges dropped twice in twenty twenty one and again in
twenty eighteen because Gallaghan was found incompetent to stand trial.
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A spokesman for the Arapaho County District Attorney's Office, which
will be dropping the charges, tells US Gallagan is not
being released to the public, but is being released to
a mental health facility.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But how long will he be held there? And who's
going to determine how long that stay is? And don't
let Marshall zellingers poor for nine News allow Amy Padden
to hide behind all the eighteenth District Attorney's office, and
it's her.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
This is her.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
This is a decision that comes from the top down
that she makes. This individual, Solomon Gallaghan is a registered
sex offender in Peblo County and nearly snatched an eleven
year old fifth grader off the playground of an elementary school.
And we're to be told that chargers are dropped. He's
incompetent to stand trial. We'll go to a mental health facility,
but then be released within months to do this again.
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Danielle Jorinski joins US a Royal City Council and she
is working on a petition for a recall of Amy
Padden in that district.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Danielle welcome, Good morning, Ryan, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The more I see about this story, read about this story,
the less it makes sense to me. Danielle, can you
make it make sense for us?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, no, I can't.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I don't understand how we have an individual who has
been let off multiple times now, multiple times on multiple
felony charges. I mean, just to start right there, right,
that highlights problems at our state level. That highlights humongous problems,
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you know, with state laws. So we could start there.
But then right we have and it's no secret Amy
Patten is a George Sorrows funded BA. You know, that's
all over her tracer report. That's where most of her
money came from. But the fact is, at some point
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this individual was competent enough to stand trial because Solomon
is a registered sex offender currently. So you know, I
don't understand to your point, you know, naw, Because originally
it was chargers are being dismissed and Solomon's being released.
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I started, you know, firing back. Now Amy Patten's office
is saying, oh, you know, we're releasing Solomon into the
state mental health hospital. Does that make anybody feel any better?
You look at the mugshot of Solomon Gallaghan. You hear
what this individual has done. You hear how many times
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they have had charges dismissed, so many charges. You hear
that this individual is already a registered sex offender. Does
anybody feel better about this? Is Amy going to say
how long this individual will be held at the state
mental health hospital? Is the hope to regain competency to
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stand trial? Because there's a family in Aurora terrified, horrified,
but their child was almost kidnapped by this individual.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Daniel Jorinsky, our guest Aurora City Council. And here's the
thing really jumps off the page to me, among many things, Danielle.
But Solomon Gallaghan's own family members are wondering what the
hell's going on here. His older sister, Sarah Gallaghan, told
nine News last April April of twenty twenty four that
her brother has been in and out of jail for
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twelve years and that it's not safe for the community
or himself to be out on the street, saying that
her sibling, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder
when he was sixteen, was deemed unfit to stand trial
in previous instances and wasn't institutionalized because of a shortage
of beds in mental health centers here in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This from the New York Post and it says.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Quote, it just really sucks he had to do something
so eye catching for everybody to see. He's not well
and he's not okay to be out and be on
his own. That's from his sister And this from his
knee Samanda Morris quote. This has been like the fourth
time that we're sitting here thinking, how the hell did
he get released?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Who's letting him out? Danielle?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
These are his own family members, and yet Amy Patten's
just going to let him walk.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Well, that's right, That's what I'm saying. Is now Amy
Patten is saying, oh no, we're not We're not going
to release.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Him to the public.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
We're gonna We're going to send him to the state mental.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Health hospital for how long?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
For how long?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
What?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
What guarantee did this give anybody? And what was Solomon
Gallaghan doing in Aurora in the first place? I want
I want those answers. Was with there an address that
this individual was holding in Aurora? Can I expect to
see this individual back in Aurora? I certainly want more
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information here and I don't know about anybody else but
me having a five year old child. I don't feel
any comfort in anything that's coming out of Amy Patten's
office right now, and I want to leave this into
I mean, this is very nerve wracking what is coming
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out right now about this Solomon Gallaghan. But what has
pressed me, what has forced me, what has called me
to leave this free call effort against Amy Padden, is
the life of Caitlin Weaver, beautiful twenty four year old girl,
a rural resident, on her way home from work in
broad gay life, boyfriends at home waiting for her.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
And she's hit at ninety miles per hour, t boned.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
By a fifteen year old who was in this country illegally.
She was killed immediately in stand a chance, And the
previous DA John Chelmer had lined up a two year
youth correction facility also except for sentencing two years youth correction,
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also highlighting many issues in this state, many issues in
this state with how we deal with crime, how we
deal with juveniles. But at least there was a promise
put in place that this individual would see the inside
of a correctional facility. Well, then then an election happened.
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Elections have consequences, and Amy Patten comes into office and says,
oh no, we're not doing that, tosses that out the window,
and gives this guy three years probation. The Weaver family
is devastated. I have spoken to John Weaver myself. You
can see interviews that the Weaver family has done publicly.
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I mean, talk about having the rug pulled one out
from under you. Devastating. I could go on and on.
She's been in yesterday was her six months in office. Exactly.
She has dismissed charges against Aurora activists who have turned
the protests into pretty much riots, shutting down all wanes
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of traffic on major roadways, ignoring lawful commands from the police,
refusus to even hear the cases. She's just dismissing them.
One of her first orders of business. If you remember
the situation I went through with Robin Niicetta, You know,
when it came time for Robin to face the music
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on the fake medical records and her stunt that she
was dying. That was seven felonies and three misdemeanors, and
Amy Patten gave her three years probation.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Final thought here, Danielle and I want to kind of
tie this all together because I think the common thread
for Amy Patten that you are illustrating very well right
here when you go back to that tremendous tragedy with
Caitlin Weaver and the fifteen year old illegal alien, that
if he had not been an illegal alien, just a
fifteen year old resident and done the same things that
he did, stole his mom's vehicle, drove ninety and a
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forty five, plowed in Caitlin Weaver, killing her children in
the back of the vehicle, unlicensed.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
To drive, there would be consequences.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
For that young man, but because he was an illegal alien,
she wanted to shield him from possible ice deportation. Now,
I wanted you to hear this from George Brockler, who
was the predecessor to the man you stated, John Kellner
in the eighteenth that's before they cleaved off the twenty
third district, much to the chagrin of you and me
living in the eighteenth And Brockler had this to say
about this process of deeming Solomon Gallaghan to be incompetent
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and where he thinks the trail leads.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Again, I hope I'm wrong on the information that I
heard third hand on this thing. But when I heard it,
I thought, wait a minute, what are we doing here.
I mean, this is a kind of case and we've
been forced I mean when I say we have the
Dinias offer has been forced to dismissed. Before I was
trying to tell about this one that happened under John
with a grandfather who had perpetrated on his grandkid. But
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that's one where and Jeko's got a case of this too.
They went to battle in court and thought right right
from having mystic case like.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, I'm sorry, I'm going to find the dude incompetent.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Now you have to dismiss That's one thing, but to
roll over.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And play dead.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
What he's referring to Danielle is the defense was allowed
to go basically shrink shopping for a psychiatrist that would
deem their client to be incompetent. And Amy Padden, it
would appear, just went along with that, didn't fight it,
didn't battle it out in the courts, didn't say no,
we're going to prosecute this to the ends of the
earth until get I get a definitive decision in a
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court before a judge, and we're going to push for
competency to prosecute this guy.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
She didn't do that.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well, Ryan, it's sickening. It's sickening. Like I said, nothing
coming out of the eighteenth Judicial District right now is justice.
It's nothing more than a legal system. There is no
justice happening under Amy Patten. She's not a prosecutor. Someone
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as well go join the public Defender's office. She deserves
where it's coming for her. And mark my words, Ryan,
I won't sleep until I have the seventy five thousand
signatures that I need to recall this woman. We will
not stand for this in the eighteenth I will not
stand for this in Aurora.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Finally, Danielle, if people want to sign this petition, get
you to those signatures for this recall of Amy pad
and where can they go?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What can they do?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
What I would say right now, We're holding a press
conference tomorrow morning, so all information will be given out.
What I will tell people right now. If you want
to get involved, go to my website. Danel for Aurora
dot com, f R Danielleporurora dot com. Send me an email.
You can directly email me from that website. Let me
know that you're interested and I will get all of
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this gathered put together and I will contact you. I
certainly want your signature, and you're going to have to
bring five to ten friends with you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Danielle for FLR Aurora dot com you can go for
more information to help her in this cause. To recall
Amy Padden as the DA in the eighteenth Danielle, appreciate
all you do.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In this fight. Good luck to you and we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Thank you so much, Ryan, byebye.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Text five seven seven three nine. As we close out
the program, send you into dan kamplus after this whatever
you doing?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Gwed and like where does Sean Ferish? And where's Donald Trump? Again?
That's another one. She's very nice, but she's very low IQ.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So let's play this out, Kelly, IQ test between AOC
and Jasmine Crockett. Who loses? I don't even ask who wins,
but who loses? Jasmin in a battle of the wits?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You think?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why I do?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I just they're both very low IQ. I mean, it's
it's kind of a toss up, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What I've heard though, that Jasmine Crockett kind of like AOC,
kind of comes from a decent.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, family in terms of wealth.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Upbringing, upbringing, went to like private.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
School, and that her affect as it were. Right now,
the way she talks is not the way she really talks. Correct.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yes, he puts she puts the slant on quite heavy.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, is Donald Trump right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Is AOC very nice? Because I don't I don't get
the vibe that she's that nice. Not a big fan
of hers at all.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
I don't know. But the next time Lauren's on, you
should ask her about her seriously?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Is she going to spill the tea?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I can't imagine. They have a lot of interactions. They're
not big fans of one another, I know.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
But she could at least kind of give some sort
of a perspective on whether or not she's polite or nice,
which is kind of what Donald Trump was trying to.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
He was trying he was trying to be nice about it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do you think of Representative Bobert's idea that Matt
getsy appointed special so to investigate the Epstein files.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
I think that's really funny. I don't look it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Kind of a fox Guard in the Henhouse kind of
scenario there if you know what I mean very much.
So it's been some you know, some smoke about Matt Gates.
And yes, and you know Matt Gates, you know he did.
He came out, Oh, Pam Bondy by far the greatest
ag that Trump's had, going back to Bill Barr and
you know, for two seconds Jeff Sessions, Frank well for
two seconds him, Well, he'd never went through confirmation.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
True, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So yeah, I like Lauren's idea of having a special counsel.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And I'm not sure Matt.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Gates is the right guy, but I know that they're
very good for you and that she believes in Dan
Bongino though. Yea, she said that to me and she
said that again to Benny Johnson there so very much.
So keep an eye on those Epstein files, kids, because
we want him to come out one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Say tune Dan Caples show coming up next. I'll talk
to you tomorrow on Ryan S. Juling Live.
And whither Elon musk Well, Mark Cuban has some thoughts,
and I've seen Rama Manuel, former chair of the DNC,
former mayor of Chicago, speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Along these same lines.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're talking about the Obama faction, the Obama wing of
a Democratic party that no longer recognizes itself. And Emmanuel's
warning like, look, we can't go to the far left
fringes of this party and expect to win the mainstream
of America and those electoral votes in flyover country. Mark Cuban,
who's no fan of Donald Trump, says, you know that
is not a strategy. What you're against only represents that
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which you oppose.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But what are you for? What do you support? Here's
Mark Cuban, It's just Trump sucks.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That's the underlying, you know, thought of everything the Democrats do,
Trump sucks. Trump says, you know this guy's blue. Trump sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's not the way to win. It's just not because
it's not about Trump. It's about the people of the
United States of America and what's good for them and
how do you get them to a place where they're
in a better position and it's less stressful for them.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
That's Mark Cuban and along these same lines, we're writing
this following piece and you can read it in Colorado Politics.
Elon Musk's Party Won't Dance in Colorado by John Caldera,
our next guest Independence Institute, and he says in a
portion of this saying, quote, we hate both of them
is a feeling, not a political goal.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's not a vision.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
If Elon wants a party that is fiscally conservative yet
socially liberal and proven to spoil elections, he need look no.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Further than the Libertarian Party.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's been around for a half a century, legally set
up and ready to roll in every state, and yet
it has not been a winning party. The one third
party movement we've seen that gained some traction and some
success was a Tross Perot.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
In ninety two and ninety six.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It would eventually become the Reform Party and Jesse Ventura
would win as an independent YEP, the former pro wrestler,
the former actor. He said famously that he was a
fiscally conservative but socially liberal, and he won the governor's
race in Minnesota in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
John Caldera joins us, now, John.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Welcome to it and just your thoughts going into Elon
Musk breaking away from Donald Trump. You described the breakup
as analogous to the Beatles, and it hurts just as
much for those of us that supported Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, it was a beautiful bromance. It was it was
a productive romance, and it was a great partnership. I
hate to see it. I hate to see it go
for all, for all those raiders. But the idea of
another party isn't going to isn't going to fly. And
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in my my world is much more in Colorado than
it is in Washington, d C. It's not going to
fly in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You say it's not going to fly in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And I'm always confused by there's a proliferation of unaffiliated voters,
yet when we measure them in elections, they typically vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And they do so against their interests.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
We were just talking about this, John throughout that there
are all these fees that are attached, these ends around
and Tabor is monumentally popular in this state for unaffiliated Republicans,
and I would say even a lot of Democrats alike.
They don't want their tax dollars touch without their permission,
without it having go to a ballot measure, and yet
the Democrats constantly looking for ways to implement fees and
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taxes without our permission, without our knowledge, including the governor
Jared Polis, who purports to be a libertarian. But these
small l, as you put it in your op ed,
small L libertarian sensibilities don't seem to translate into votes
when it comes to the fiscally conservative agenda that Democrats
directly oppose.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Absolutely, there's Kaallano is a libertarian state as long as
you don't use those terms that Colorado most Coloradin's. They're
not as liberal as our state government, and our cities
are being run and they're going to be running off
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a cliff at some point. The problem is that Colorado
despises the Republican Party. Colorado despises Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
About all Colorado. I'm talking about in the suburban areas
where you need to win, where you need to be
able to switch over, Rapido County, Adams County, Douglas County,
Jefferson County, these are these are the swing areas of Colorado.
You need them to win. And in those areas, Donald
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Trump is a pariah, and therefore people are not going
to vote for Republicans, so they end up just voting
for the Democrat, but the Democrat is out of touch.
There is a civil war going on inside the Colorado
Democratic movement between communists and just progressives, and the communists
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are winning. I say communists, but really they're the Democratic
Socialists and they they are so out of touch, but
they're going to stay in power until there's some sort
of alternative. I believe that alternative will be independents, that
will be unaffiliated voters that start in unaffiliated candidates that
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start winning in Colorado. You look no further than Colorado
Springs for the first time, and you know, I can't
remember how long there's an unaffiliated mayor. People want something different.
They're not going to vote for Republicans, but they're there.
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They still want government off their back. So I think
there's a real opportunity for unaffiliated candidates to start win
here in Colorado in the next few years.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
John Caldera Independence Institute joining us and you can follow
him on ex at John Caldera j O ncl DA
r A. Now the traditional two party system, John that
people would like an alternative two they are succeeding, And
I put those that word in quotes in spite of
themselves talking about Rama Manuel criticizing the Democratic Party it's
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veering hard to the left. We see that with Zora
Mundani earning the Democratic nomination for mayor in New York
City off the rails with the squad. We see even
elements of that here in Colorado, as you put a
Democratic Socialists that are pulling the party to the left
when it comes to policy positions and bills that they're
passing through the legislature that they're even getting Governor Jared
polo Is to sign who's a libertarian in name only?
(06:47):
And even the Republicans, I mean, they've been disappointing to
a lot of people that have supported them, trying to
formulate a smaller government, a leaner, meaner spending budget, you know,
something like Robert Massey White support Ran Paul. Why is
it then that a third party has not been able
to thrive, to succeed to win against two parties that
can't get out of their own way, whether it's the
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Reform Party with parole. Libertarians never mount much of a
challenge in elections, despite the fact that they might have
a lot of good ideas, and now Elon Musk with
the America Party.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You say that's doomed for failure, But why is that?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Particularly Musk is doomed in Colorado because he's so disliked.
He's disliked from both sides. So remember, the fight for
Colorado is a fight for those undecided votes. Most of
those undecided votes despise Donald Trump, and anybody who helped
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get Donald Trump into office is not going to be
a popular It's not going to be a popular guy
to go follow his banner. At the same time, he's
going to get hurt by those people who love Donald Trump.
Because for the Trump crazies, if you if you come
out against Trump, you come out against their man, and
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they're not going to follow you either. So you're already
at a double disadvantage. Those people who love Trump aren't
going to follow you. Those people who hate Trump aren't
going to follow you. It's simply not something that's gonna
that's going to work here in Colorado. Uh. And you know,
I look at the Reform Party and people say it
(08:27):
was a real party, maybe, but it didn't get a
single electoral vote after several presidential elections, not not one,
And it kind of reminded me of the Tea Party
in a way that when when there is an Anger Party,
it's not it's not a movement. Much like the clips
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who were playing at the beginning of this by Mark Cuban.
People know what they're against, that doesn't mean they know
what they're for, and so that lots of people against
what's going on. But there needs to be a shared
vision here, and when the Republican Party started, they had
a shared vision. It was abolition for the Democratic movement
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in Colorado. They had a shared vision, which was to
get marriage quality. Not Donald Trump is not a shared vision.
That's just not something that holds. And in order to
build a party, you need to hold together people who
want something. It was interesting that you remember the Green Party.
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The Green Party was wonderful. Everybody loved the Green Party
because it helped to screw up Democrats. It's kind of
what happens with the Libertarian Party for Republicans, but that
the left did something to get rid of the Green Party.
They just absorb them and every single one of their
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crazy environmentalist idea is and we're starting to pay the
price for that. So if Republicans want to win, they
need to be for something. And you cannot say Republicans
are for smaller government. Not after the big beautiful bill,
(10:19):
not after every time that there is a Republican majority
of both houses and a Republican president. We just go
into debt Moore. So the Republican Party really is not
the party. A small government might be smaller compared, it's
still a growing, growing government. You know. I look at
what must did with Twitter. He said, we need we
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need a platform. He didn't build a new platform. He
just went out and bought Twitter. If you really want something,
you could infiltrate the Libertarian Party the way that that
Donald Trump took over the Republican Party. He's got the
money to do it, he's got the name recognition to
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do it. Who knows why build something from scratch and
you can buy something off the shelf.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
John Caldera Independence Institute, his latest entitled Elon Musk's Party
Won't Dance in Colorado. I'm watching the continuum of political
evolution in Colorado, John, and it seems, if anything, this
state is moving to the left politically, Democrats garnering more power,
higher percentage of the General Assembly, control of the governor's office.
(11:33):
We see now we're talking about it at length today
about the eighteenth Judicial District with the twenty third cleaved
off in Douglas County where George Brockler's now the DA
and Amy Patten simply going off the rails basically with
a pro crime mindset, pro criminal mindset, pro defendant mindset,
rather than executing policies that would ensure law and order, prosecution,
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punishment for crime deterrens, etc. And I'm wondering in your
mind how bad it would have to get in Colorado
on which front. And we've talked about the skyrocketing cost
of living here. I know that's chief among your concerns.
You're very tuned into economic issues, taxation, those sorts of
things here in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's bad.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Parental rights advocates going nuts here in Colorado after passage
of thirteen twelve, and that's another rail of concern. And
then the crime epidemic that's been exploding in Colorado, as
I just mentioned, these permissive policies that are making life
less safe in this state. So for those unaffiliateds that
lean left the typically reflexively vote Democrat, is there anybody
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that would look at the state right now and say
we're in better off. We're in better shape overall as
a state across the board than we were when Jared
Polis was first elected in twenty eighteen. I can't imagine
many people, even Democrats would say yes.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh, communists would communist would look today, we're making great
gains in Colorado. One of my frustrations with the Republican Party.
I'd been a lifelong Republican. I'm now unaffiliated, but I
registered as as a Republican on my eighteenth birthday before
I went off and bought a beer, which you could
do legally, And that's kind of nerd I am, and
(13:09):
I look at it, and Republicans in Colorado have a
hard time accepting reality that there are some things that
are not going to happen in Colorado. And I don't
want to break anybody's heart, but in the next ten
twenty years, you are not going to become an anti
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abortion state. It's not going to happen. We are not
going to become an anti pod state, or an anti
gay state, or an anti environmentalist state. The demographics aren't there.
So that's what you're wrapping yourself around. Go ahead, have fun,
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but understand you're only going to be turning off voters
on the area that is possible. In the area that
is possible is that Colorado. And you've mentioned it. Colorado
is not pro tax Colorado is not pro regulation, Colorado
is not pro crime, Colorado is not pro woke. And
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if you stick with those issues, you can win. But
for the next four to six years in those swing districts,
I believe, maybe I'm wrong, that if you have a
Republican title behind your name, you're just not going to
win in a general election. And I'm not talking about
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out in the hinderlands. I'm talking about in those swing districts,
those suburban districts where everything is decided in Colorado. Thus,
I believe in the future, if we change our system
so that unaffiliated candidates can have a shot at getting
to the getting to the general election, they're going to
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win because we just want people who will keep our
taxes low, but aren't going to be going off on
abortion because abortion is simply not a reachable goal in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
John Kelder, our guests want to give you a chance
to promote what you've just been working on here, John,
and I'm seeing a fascinating sit down conversation that you
had with constitutional expert Rob natelsin where can people find that?
And what stood out to you about that exchange.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I'll go to thinkfreedom dot org. I run the Independence Institute,
which for four decades now has been pointing to the
north Star for free market policy and limited government, and
we do a show called Devil's Advocate. You can watch
that every Friday night at eight thirty on Channel twelve,
or you can just go to thinkfreedom dot org and
(15:49):
catch the YouTube of it. Rob Nielsen's our constitutional expert,
and I asked him these questions of you know, what
can people do, why do we you have only two
parties in the national system, and what can happen to
change it? And he's got the historic perspective of this,
which is just fascinating. So go to thinkfreedom dot org,
(16:12):
sign up for our newsletter. It's a lot of fun.
You are not alone. If you want some common sense
back any government, well.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That's what he stands for at the Independence Institute Thinkfreedom
dot com and then also on x at John Caldera. John,
always appreciate your time and we'll look forward to the
next conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Looking forward to it, Ryan, Thank you five seven.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Seven thirty nine your text.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We'll go to those right now, Alexa with the following
two parter Prince Andrew did not step down for no reason.
That check true, and he's been disgraced from his royal
standing for sure. And following up both that, Alexa says,
there was an interview in twenty nineteen We're Prosecuting attorney
Bradley Edward, who represented Epstein victims, said that in two
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thousand and nine, when the prosecution was calling people about
Jeffrey Epstein, DJT was the only one who would talk
to them. Other elites would talk And yeah, we played
that audio for you at the end of the first
hour in case you missed it, you can check that
out on the podcast. Seems to be a uniform response
to this issue that nobody on our side who has
championed for this cause to reveal the Epstein list and
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shine a light on the darkness.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Nobody's going along with.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
President Trump's efforts to obfuscate it or shield it or
whatever's going on there. And I don't understand it, and
it's very frustrating to me. But Stephen Littleton, retired ELIO says,
open the Epstein investigation and put a stop to your
parent cover up, allow the truth to out. Representative Lauren
Bobert agrees with us, since she said so, I'm going
to sit down with Benny Johnson. Will have that audio
for you maybe in just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
The list is already out in Kathy O'Brien's book Transformation
of America. She was raped by people from Dick Cheney
to Trudeau, and she names names. It's even available and audible.
Now that'll be her account of things. Those are serious
accusations against Dick Cheney and Justin Trudeau. And that's probably
part of the concern that Donald Trump feels he's been
unfairly targeted with lawfare in the not so distant past,
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and that there may be names on here that have
been clouded by assembling files during the Obama administration VISAVI
James Comey, and he doesn't trust it, and I don't
blame him. But then that is the job of Pam
Bondy to sort through blank from Shinola. As my Grandpa
Shuling used to say, you got to know one from
the other and then present them that which is credible,
(18:29):
which President Trump said today on the White House lawn
before boarding Marine One, that he will leave it at
the discretion of Pam Bondy to decide.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But something's got to come out. Laura Bobert's right, You
and I are right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
This can't just be allowed to hang out there, Patty
says Ryan twice in one day, win win and Representative
Gabe Evans. Wow, impressive so far, what a win for
Colorado to happen. You're absolutely right. He is a real
shining star in the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then Jim with this, Ryan, here's a twist.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
In an interview with Newsmax, Durshowitz said that there are
lists of names, but that any redacted or sealed materials
concerning Epstein are under the jurisdiction of the courts who
are suppressing the information, and that Attorney General Bondi and
the DOJ have released everything they can.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So why are the courts setting on this? Well, Jim,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And the other confusing part of this is Bill Clinton
is front and center in the targets of accusation, the
painting of him, the blue dress that Jeffrey Epstein had,
the flight logs that show him going to the on
the Lolita Express to Epstein Island. Many times like two
dozen or so times, and yet Aquem Jeffries Rocanna, lots
(19:37):
of Democrats are coming out of the woodwork right now saying, hey,
release the Epstein files. Do they know something we don't
or those files doctored to maybe erase mill Clinton from them.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Anything's on the table. I'm not ruling anything out.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I've gone full Columbo detective on this case, and I
get my street smarts from my mom.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Rip time out. We're back with more after.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
This person accused of trying to grab a fifth grader
from a Cherry Creek school playground last year is incompetent
to stand trial, and for the fourth time in seven years,
that person will see the charges dropped because of incompetency,
though they're.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Being transferred to a mental health facility.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Kids at black Forest Hills Elementary School yelled stranger danger.
Solomon Gallaghan is accused of trying to grab a fifth
grader at recess in April twenty twenty four, almost one
year ago. Gallaghan was found incompetent to stand trial. Nine
News investigates looked into Gallaghan's criminal history and found felony
charges dropped twice in twenty twenty one and again in
twenty eighteen because Gallaghan was found incompetent to stand trial.
(20:42):
A spokesman for the Arapaho County District Attorney's Office, which
will be dropping the charges, tells US Gallagan is not
being released to the public, but is being released to
a mental health facility.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But how long will he be held there? And who's
going to determine how long that stay is? And don't
let Marshall zellingers poor for nine News allow Amy Padden
to hide behind all the eighteenth District Attorney's office, and
it's her.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
This is her.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
This is a decision that comes from the top down
that she makes. This individual, Solomon Gallaghan is a registered
sex offender in Peblo County and nearly snatched an eleven
year old fifth grader off the playground of an elementary school.
And we're to be told that chargers are dropped. He's
incompetent to stand trial. We'll go to a mental health facility,
but then be released within months to do this again.
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Danielle Jorinski joins US a Royal City Council and she
is working on a petition for a recall of Amy
Padden in that district.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Danielle welcome, Good morning, Ryan, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The more I see about this story, read about this story,
the less it makes sense to me. Danielle, can you
make it make sense for us?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, no, I can't.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I don't understand how we have an individual who has
been let off multiple times now, multiple times on multiple
felony charges. I mean, just to start right there, right,
that highlights problems at our state level. That highlights humongous problems,
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you know, with state laws. So we could start there.
But then right we have and it's no secret Amy
Patten is a George Sorrows funded BA. You know, that's
all over her tracer report. That's where most of her
money came from. But the fact is, at some point
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this individual was competent enough to stand trial because Solomon
is a registered sex offender currently. So you know, I
don't understand to your point, you know, naw, Because originally
it was chargers are being dismissed and Solomon's being released.
(23:06):
I started, you know, firing back. Now Amy Patten's office
is saying, oh, you know, we're releasing Solomon into the
state mental health hospital. Does that make anybody feel any better?
You look at the mugshot of Solomon Gallaghan. You hear
what this individual has done. You hear how many times
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they have had charges dismissed, so many charges. You hear
that this individual is already a registered sex offender. Does
anybody feel better about this? Is Amy going to say
how long this individual will be held at the state
mental health hospital? Is the hope to regain competency to
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stand trial? Because there's a family in Aurora terrified, horrified,
but their child was almost kidnapped by this individual.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Daniel Jorinsky, our guest Aurora City Council. And here's the
thing really jumps off the page to me, among many things, Danielle.
But Solomon Gallaghan's own family members are wondering what the
hell's going on here. His older sister, Sarah Gallaghan, told
nine News last April April of twenty twenty four that
her brother has been in and out of jail for
(24:24):
twelve years and that it's not safe for the community
or himself to be out on the street, saying that
her sibling, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder
when he was sixteen, was deemed unfit to stand trial
in previous instances and wasn't institutionalized because of a shortage
of beds in mental health centers here in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This from the New York Post and it says.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Quote, it just really sucks he had to do something
so eye catching for everybody to see. He's not well
and he's not okay to be out and be on
his own. That's from his sister And this from his
knee Samanda Morris quote. This has been like the fourth
time that we're sitting here thinking, how the hell did
he get released?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Who's letting him out? Danielle?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
These are his own family members, and yet Amy Patten's
just going to let him walk.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Well, that's right, That's what I'm saying. Is now Amy
Patten is saying, oh no, we're not We're not going
to release.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Him to the public.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
We're gonna We're going to send him to the state mental.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Health hospital for how long?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
For how long?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
What?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
What guarantee did this give anybody? And what was Solomon
Gallaghan doing in Aurora in the first place? I want
I want those answers. Was with there an address that
this individual was holding in Aurora? Can I expect to
see this individual back in Aurora? I certainly want more
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information here and I don't know about anybody else but
me having a five year old child. I don't feel
any comfort in anything that's coming out of Amy Patten's
office right now, and I want to leave this into
I mean, this is very nerve wracking what is coming
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out right now about this Solomon Gallaghan. But what has
pressed me, what has forced me, what has called me
to leave this free call effort against Amy Padden, is
the life of Caitlin Weaver, beautiful twenty four year old girl,
a rural resident, on her way home from work in
broad gay life, boyfriends at home waiting for her.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
And she's hit at ninety miles per hour, t boned.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
By a fifteen year old who was in this country illegally.
She was killed immediately in stand a chance, And the
previous DA John Chelmer had lined up a two year
youth correction facility also except for sentencing two years youth correction,
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also highlighting many issues in this state, many issues in
this state with how we deal with crime, how we
deal with juveniles. But at least there was a promise
put in place that this individual would see the inside
of a correctional facility. Well, then then an election happened.
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Elections have consequences, and Amy Patten comes into office and says,
oh no, we're not doing that, tosses that out the window,
and gives this guy three years probation. The Weaver family
is devastated. I have spoken to John Weaver myself. You
can see interviews that the Weaver family has done publicly.
(27:42):
I mean, talk about having the rug pulled one out
from under you. Devastating. I could go on and on.
She's been in yesterday was her six months in office. Exactly.
She has dismissed charges against Aurora activists who have turned
the protests into pretty much riots, shutting down all wanes
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of traffic on major roadways, ignoring lawful commands from the police,
refusus to even hear the cases. She's just dismissing them.
One of her first orders of business. If you remember
the situation I went through with Robin Niicetta, You know,
when it came time for Robin to face the music
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on the fake medical records and her stunt that she
was dying. That was seven felonies and three misdemeanors, and
Amy Patten gave her three years probation.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Final thought here, Danielle and I want to kind of
tie this all together because I think the common thread
for Amy Patten that you are illustrating very well right
here when you go back to that tremendous tragedy with
Caitlin Weaver and the fifteen year old illegal alien, that
if he had not been an illegal alien, just a
fifteen year old resident and done the same things that
he did, stole his mom's vehicle, drove ninety and a
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forty five, plowed in Caitlin Weaver, killing her children in
the back of the vehicle, unlicensed.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
To drive, there would be consequences.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
For that young man, but because he was an illegal alien,
she wanted to shield him from possible ice deportation. Now,
I wanted you to hear this from George Brockler, who
was the predecessor to the man you stated, John Kellner
in the eighteenth that's before they cleaved off the twenty
third district, much to the chagrin of you and me
living in the eighteenth And Brockler had this to say
about this process of deeming Solomon Gallaghan to be incompetent
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and where he thinks the trail leads.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Again, I hope I'm wrong on the information that I
heard third hand on this thing. But when I heard it,
I thought, wait a minute, what are we doing here.
I mean, this is a kind of case and we've
been forced I mean when I say we have the
Dinias offer has been forced to dismissed. Before I was
trying to tell about this one that happened under John
with a grandfather who had perpetrated on his grandkid. But
(29:53):
that's one where and Jeko's got a case of this too.
They went to battle in court and thought right right
from having mystic case like.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, I'm sorry, I'm going to find the dude incompetent.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Now you have to dismiss That's one thing, but to
roll over.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And play dead.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
What he's referring to Danielle is the defense was allowed
to go basically shrink shopping for a psychiatrist that would
deem their client to be incompetent. And Amy Padden, it
would appear, just went along with that, didn't fight it,
didn't battle it out in the courts, didn't say no,
we're going to prosecute this to the ends of the
earth until get I get a definitive decision in a
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court before a judge, and we're going to push for
competency to prosecute this guy.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
She didn't do that.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well, Ryan, it's sickening. It's sickening. Like I said, nothing
coming out of the eighteenth Judicial District right now is justice.
It's nothing more than a legal system. There is no
justice happening under Amy Patten. She's not a prosecutor. Someone
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as well go join the public Defender's office. She deserves
where it's coming for her. And mark my words, Ryan,
I won't sleep until I have the seventy five thousand
signatures that I need to recall this woman. We will
not stand for this in the eighteenth I will not
stand for this in Aurora.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Finally, Danielle, if people want to sign this petition, get
you to those signatures for this recall of Amy pad
and where can they go?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What can they do?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
What I would say right now, We're holding a press
conference tomorrow morning, so all information will be given out.
What I will tell people right now. If you want
to get involved, go to my website. Danel for Aurora
dot com, f R Danielleporurora dot com. Send me an email.
You can directly email me from that website. Let me
know that you're interested and I will get all of
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this gathered put together and I will contact you. I
certainly want your signature, and you're going to have to
bring five to ten friends with you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Danielle for FLR Aurora dot com you can go for
more information to help her in this cause. To recall
Amy Padden as the DA in the eighteenth Danielle, appreciate
all you do.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In this fight. Good luck to you and we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Thank you so much, Ryan, byebye.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Text five seven seven three nine. As we close out
the program, send you into dan kamplus after this whatever
you doing?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Gwed and like where does Sean Ferish? And where's Donald Trump? Again?
That's another one. She's very nice, but she's very low IQ.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So let's play this out, Kelly, IQ test between AOC
and Jasmine Crockett. Who loses? I don't even ask who wins,
but who loses? Jasmin in a battle of the wits?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You think?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why I do?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I just they're both very low IQ. I mean, it's
it's kind of a toss up, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What I've heard though, that Jasmine Crockett kind of like AOC,
kind of comes from a decent.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, family in terms of wealth.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Upbringing, upbringing, went to like private.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
School, and that her affect as it were. Right now,
the way she talks is not the way she really talks. Correct.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yes, he puts she puts the slant on quite heavy.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, is Donald Trump right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Is AOC very nice? Because I don't I don't get
the vibe that she's that nice. Not a big fan
of hers at all.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
I don't know. But the next time Lauren's on, you
should ask her about her seriously?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Is she going to spill the tea?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I can't imagine. They have a lot of interactions. They're
not big fans of one another, I know.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
But she could at least kind of give some sort
of a perspective on whether or not she's polite or nice,
which is kind of what Donald Trump was trying to.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
He was trying he was trying to be nice about it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do you think of Representative Bobert's idea that Matt
getsy appointed special so to investigate the Epstein files.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
I think that's really funny. I don't look it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Kind of a fox Guard in the Henhouse kind of
scenario there if you know what I mean very much.
So it's been some you know, some smoke about Matt Gates.
And yes, and you know Matt Gates, you know he did.
He came out, Oh, Pam Bondy by far the greatest
ag that Trump's had, going back to Bill Barr and
you know, for two seconds Jeff Sessions, Frank well for
two seconds him, Well, he'd never went through confirmation.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
True, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So yeah, I like Lauren's idea of having a special counsel.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And I'm not sure Matt.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Gates is the right guy, but I know that they're
very good for you and that she believes in Dan
Bongino though. Yea, she said that to me and she
said that again to Benny Johnson there so very much.
So keep an eye on those Epstein files, kids, because
we want him to come out one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Say tune Dan Caples show coming up next. I'll talk
to you tomorrow on Ryan S. Juling Live.
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