February 2, 2026 • 37 mins
Rep. Carlos Barron (R-48) crossed paths with Ryan in Greeley over the weekend at the Weld County GOP Chili Cook-off, placing a respectable third, and reveals his mom's secret ingredient to his recipe. In addition, Chris Rourke and Ryan ask him questions about the recent start of the current General Assembly session and concerns he has about legislation being proposed by Democrats in the majority.
Sen. Mark Baisley (R-4) joins live in-studio for the final two segments to detail why he chose to move from the governor's race over to the race for U.S. Senate against incumbent Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO). Hick is facing a primary challenge from his left flank in the form of 'Senadora' Julie Gonzalez, which may bode well for Senator Baisley's chances in a general election head-to-head when it comes to allocating fundraising dollars.
Sen. Mark Baisley (R-4) joins live in-studio for the final two segments to detail why he chose to move from the governor's race over to the race for U.S. Senate against incumbent Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO). Hick is facing a primary challenge from his left flank in the form of 'Senadora' Julie Gonzalez, which may bode well for Senator Baisley's chances in a general election head-to-head when it comes to allocating fundraising dollars.
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Speaker 2 (02:00):
Lastic performance. Ned Ryerson early in the film groundhog Day,
played by Steven Tobolowski, just delightfully annoying. And Phil Connor's
believes that as well. Chris Rourke in studio not annoying
with yours. Truly Ryan Schuling. This is Ryan Schuling live,
and I gotta believe it feels a lot like Groundhog
Day every day at the General Assembly, and we're joined
(02:22):
by Representative Carlos Baron doing the good work there on
behalf of the people from his district that's forty eight.
Just saw him fresh off of his very impressive chili
cookout performance in Willed County. Representative Baron, thanks for taking
the time.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Good morning, Ryan, It's always great to be here with you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now that comparison to today's holiday, Groundhog Day, same day,
over and over again, same thing, different you know, same song,
different verse. Democrats coming up with all these terrible bills.
What was that first day of the General Assembly back
at work like for you? What did you notice what
stood out?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well, it's it's just the same thing, basically. Yeah, Brownhall
Day is a very very good reference to what we
feel here at the State at the State Capitol every day.
It's over and over again. Once these bills get introduced,
it's like the same thing. They're trying to recycle, the
same kind of legislation, the same rule making, just in
(03:20):
a in a different way. But yeah, it feels like
it's when we're living the same day for the one
hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 9 (03:30):
Good morning, This is Chris Rourke.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
I want to know, I've seen a lot of these
bills come up, like you say, over and over again,
energy labor bill that that was defeated last year, other
things that are impacting us on a daily basis, the
gun bills that are coming up.
Speaker 9 (03:49):
What is most concerning to you right now?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The most concerning thing is Yeah, of course energy. The
attack on the oil and gas industry, which is a
huge in my districts. If you know the area of
House District forty eight, northern part of Adams County and
mostly Wealth County to the south end of Greeley, it's
huge for energy, oil and gas. And that's what's more
concerning is that they're not attacking oil and gas directly.
(04:17):
They're attacking oil and gas indirectly through clean air policies,
which I'm glad that I'm on energy and environment community
because I can speak to those I have first time
experience from the ground level and oil and gas for
twenty three years. I know how clean it is, I
know how safe it is, and over here they're portraying
(04:37):
it like it's like it's like an industry that's killing
the environment and killing people on a daily basis. No,
that's not how it is. I keep getting asked every
time if I've seen the show land Man. And I've
seen the show land Man. It's a great drama. I
love the show. That's not the oil and gas industry.
(05:00):
And that's what really worries me is that the public
perception that the people that are watching that show that's
what they think oil and gas really is. But no,
it isn't like that, not even close.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Yeah, you know you talk about attack on energy and
clean air. We recently saw the Public Utilities Commission make
this decision to up its target goal on reducing emissions
forty percent by twenty thirty five. That means, I think
it's six hundred thousand homes must convert to electric heat
or electric powered heat. And yet yesterday we had a
(05:35):
power outage that affected much of the Denver area. I've
heard a lot about the Republican Caucus tackling this in
this session.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
What do you see as a solution.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yes, that is one of those things that is coming up,
and that where we're trying to tackle right now. Actually, yeah,
I can say that safely right now because my bill
is about to be introduced. I'm running a bill with
Representative Flannel on tackling that issue allowing for natural gas
to be used in residential homes for heating. So I'm
(06:11):
basically trying to win aid that ruling and and not
take away an option for energy. And we had a
smart actuary with the PUC on Friday, and even as
director of the PUS, he said who are we to
tell people what type of energy to use to heat
their home? So this is going to go well for
(06:31):
my bill. It's going to take away residentials away from
the clean energy, the clean heating push. And uh yeah,
that's that's the way I'm tackling personally, and Mike Cocker
who behind me, getting a lot of traction for this bill.
It's I don't have a bill number just yet, but
as soon as I get I get those lease I
will let everybody know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Representative Carlos Barone representing the forty eighth district and that
is to the north, as he mentioned a good portion
of Adams County as well as well going down to
Greeley joining us here and Ryan Scherling live Chris Rourke
in studio with me. Now, this was posted on your
ex feed. Bethany Pray, chief legal policy officer for the
(07:10):
Colorado Center of Law. This exchange, you asked her a question.
I'm going to play this for the audience and get
your reaction on the other side. In HHS Committee last Wednesday.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
Previous statement, you based affordability of health after expenses of
rents and food. So my question is do you believe
that's a trickle down effect on regulation on housing and
affordability on food as well. That also has an effect
on affordability on medication and not the other way around,
(07:40):
or do you see it going both ways?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Thank you, Madam chair. I mean, we have state problems
with affordability and all areas. My organization does work on
multiple areas health, housing, income, and food, and you know,
we see problems for affordability and rental, health and purchasing,
housing and food access and also in the functioning of
(08:06):
our public programs that help support those areas. So I
don't know whether there's a cause and effect here or
whether this is a you know, just there are a
lot of different factors happening at the same point at
the same time. But Medicaid and SNAP, the Food Assistance
program really are essential in supporting people because we have
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housing that's going to take a while to get that
under control. I mean, we're not going to solve the
housing crisis this year. In the meantime, while people are
struggling with these costs plus childcare costs which are enormous,
you know, bigger than people's mortgages in many cases, we
need to have healthy Medicaid program, CHIP program, and snap program.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
As you ask on this post for Representative bar Own,
you say, if healthcare affordability keeps falling behind housing and
other costs, is that the consequence of Colorado's increasingly burdened
some regulatory environment. What did you make of the answer
that you heard right there that you posted, and what
do you think is central to the core of the
problem and the issue here?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, thank you, Ryan, And that was great. That's that
was the answer I was actually expecting. I was she
as you as you heard, she said, We're not going
to solve the housing crisis this uh, this year or
very soon. People are starting to see that the overregulation
of this state is causing a lot of prices to increase,
(09:35):
and it's going to affect other other areas of their life,
like like medical care. It's going to affect when when
they can go feel their vehicle per week, you know
what I mean. So that was the exact answer I wanted.
I wanted to put it on record that people are
seeing this and and and and and let other people know,
you know, when they're like, why is this going up?
(09:56):
You know, let let people know this is it's over regulation.
We're over regulating these industries to a point where it's
going to be unaffordable for you to be able to
do something else as well. You're not just you're not
just going to be able, uh, struggle to afford groceries.
Now you're going to struggle for your medical care. Now
you're going to struggle to for your energy. So that's
(10:17):
the answer that I really really wanted, and that's why
I posted that one because it was on record.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
It's really the big squeeze, you know, for Colorado families.
I mean, affordability has been the big thing why people
are leaving Colorado.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, affordability is definitely one of those top top issues
that people are struggling with here in the state of Colorado.
And we're trying our best here where we really are
trying to deregulate a lot of these industries. We're trying
to lower the cost of everything. And then but they
keep bringing up bills that implement fees on everything and
it start enterprises to pay for other things. Like it's uh,
(10:55):
we we we say this time and time again here
at the well. We do not have a revenue problem.
The tax revenue is coming in. We went from a
nineteen billion dollar budget in twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty I'm sorry to a forty four billion dollar budget
that we just passed last year. So the revenue's coming in,
(11:16):
it's just we are not prioritizing the money to the
places they need to go. All these pet projects being
brought up, all these social programs that are beinging brought
up that are not necessary right now. We need to
fully fund, well, we are constitutionally obligated to fully fund,
and what's left over, we can talk about social programs,
(11:39):
we can talk about everything else, but the priority is
backwards on this.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Yeah, under this governor, I believe the budget has expanded
forty one percent in eight years. That's a huge difference. Representative,
you also serve on Health and Human Services. What do
you see coming up as your biggest concern there?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Health and Human Services? This year is going to be
one of those committees that are going to come go
into the late of the night with some of these
bills coming through. And I can't speak right now onto
which one is the most concerning because there's a lot
of them. But yeah, I'm on that committee to try
to put a little bit more common sense. I was
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placed on that because of my common sense and business
and being on the ground level on how how health
issues really affect the consumer the employees from the business standpoint.
So I'm really excited to be on that committee and
try to put my point of view and ask the
(12:40):
right questions and get people on record and being able
to vote for the people of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
House District forty eight Representative Carlos Brone our guest here
this morning, Love Chris Rourke, Im Ryan Schuling, Carlos. When
you mentioned land Man earlier, that stuck with me a
little bit, and I think for our listeners as well,
because we watched that show and it's been heralded by
many of us on the right as presenting oil and
gas and a favorable light within context comparing the cost
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to windmills and all these other natural energy sources that
are far more expensive and cost prohibitive, especially here in
a state like Colorado. But you had mentioned that it
is a misconception. It's fiction, it's drama, it's entertainment. Yeah,
we know all that, But what is the biggest thing
you think that show gets wrong? And what if people
need to know about the reality of the oil and
(13:30):
gas industry in Colorado and in your district.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, sure, thank you, right for that question. So it
starts off with season one, episode one right away, it
portrays for the drama aspect of that big explosion of
the well at the end of the first episode. Right.
I'm afraid people see that and say, oh, that happens
in the oil and gas industry every day. It does not.
(13:55):
The actors in the show in that scene, the gas
monitors weren't. We are very strict in the oil and
gas that our gas monitors need to be calibrated and
working before we leave the shop into the field. So
if the gas miners were working, they would have caught
that leak way ahead of time. That would never have happened.
They use they use an iron hammer to try to
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open a valve. We don't use iron hammers. We use
comprehenders because they do not produce a spark. But at
the same time, we would never open a valve trying
to open it with a hammer. If that valve doesn't open,
that line gets shut down and that valve, that valve
gets replaced immediately. So those are those are the kind
of things that I'm that I'm that I that I
(14:37):
nitpake and I see it when I'm blocking it like, oh,
we would never do that. Oh, that doesn't happen. Oh
they forgot to do the red zone checklist, you know,
stuff like that, and uh. And I'm afraid that the
public perception of them thinking that that happens every day
is totally wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
You know, I haven't thought of it that way, and
I love the series, but I do know the oil
and gas industry does have a lot of safeguards. It
has a lot of safety management systems, and maybe share
a little bit more on that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Sure. So important for you to be able to work
in the oil and gas industry, you have to go
through a twelve hour training called the Safeland training. That's
a safety course or for new employees of the oil
and gas industry. It shows you everything from safety aspects
to environmental aspects. If you if your work truck leaks
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engine oil on location, even if it's a one inch
by one inch drop, we have to stop work, get
a resonant checklist, call in, locate and clean that up
because we don't need that there. So that's all our
safety training is a safe land training. You have to
have your PEC card to be able to work in
the oil and gas industry. Not just that. We use
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FR clothing f R two specifically, so you can't even
be on location without your PPE, which fur clothing is
part of that. What FR does, it's a fire retardant
clothing that gives you minutes. If it is an explosion,
you don't catch on fire right away. It gives you
minutes to walk out, to run out, and you will
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not catch on fire. Your safety helmet. You always have
to have your hard hat on at all times, safety glasses,
feel toe boots. All of this is being regulated very
very strictly in the oil and gas industry. You cannot
be on location without a four gas monitor right next
to your to your face. So on the environmental side,
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whenever we are digging up you know we're going to
put in a new line that goes from from the
well to the separator, and we accidentally run into some
contaminated soil, we stop work right there. An environmental guy
from the company Occidental or share around, whatever company we're
working for. He comes out, you tests all soiled. If
that soil tests to be contaminated, even if it's not
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their fault, we start a contamination clean up. We start
cleaning up that soil until that so that hole is
cleaned from contaminate from contamination. So they do care about
the environment. They clean it, even if it's not their fault,
even if that contamination was was there before they even
started drilling.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Important details on a very important industry here in Colorado
and important in his district. The forty eighth Oil and
Gas representive, Carlos Baron our guests, and finally, you know,
I saved the most important question for last, Carlos, and
that is your secret ingredient and chili, if you're willing
to share it. It was spicy. You and I talked
about it. I really liked it. Wanted some more of that.
(17:43):
What is that? And how do you come up with
your recipe for chili?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, actually was my mother's recipe and the use habanero
bonero cheesess and yet yea, yes, avonero chilas is what
was using that chili, And I used a lot less
because I knew it was going to go to you.
I didn't want to. I don't want you guys to
burden your tongues by well.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It was a solid representation and submission. He finished third
at the Weld County Chili Cookoff there put on by
the GOP and Natalie Tenant. Carlos, great seeing you there,
great having you on the show here today. Thank you
for all the good work you're doing on behalf of
your district, the entire state of Colorado. Because I tell
you what, I got a dem Rep here that's not
acting in my best interest. So I turn to individuals
(18:31):
like you, the mighty ones in the House to stand
your ground. You're doing just that. Thank you for all
you doing. Thanks for your time here today.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I appreciate it. Ryan, Thank you too for doing everything
that you do as well.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
For percenta of Carlos Baron, you can follow him on
x at Rep. Carlos Barone Chris Rourke in studio for
the full hour each and every Monday with our weekend
recap and when we come back. Senator Mark Baisley scheduled
to join us in our studio exactly as he has
shifted his campaign from governor to Senate and John hick
Looper has taken notice back with that. After this on
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Ryan Schuling Live goes for Senator kirk Meyer from this
Texter like kirk Meyer, I like Baisley, but we need
someone to run for Senate. Why did he decide governor instead?
And who will the Republicans get to run against Hick
and Looper? So, Senator walk us through that decision, if
you would place.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, if I were doing this just for my own enjoyment,
I would run for US Senate, just because I think
it would be great fun to go serve at the
same level or at a higher level, but the same
job that I'm doing as a legislator and in this
in the Senate, and I.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Prefer serving in the Senate.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Over the House is just a little more my style,
I guess, than the all the raucous fighting in the House,
which I miss on occasion. But so that would that
would be cool for me. I would love to go
serve in the in the US Senate. However, I feel
called to serve in the Governor's office. I look at
my fellow travelers that are also running for this this position,
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good friends, people.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I like and respect.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
But I feel like I'm the best positioned and best
informed and best prepared in business management to take on
this is a forty four billion dollar annual operation. None
of us has operated a business at that level, but
I think I've operated a business at a higher level
than any of my compadres there, So I think I
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can take it on.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Senator Mark Baisley joining me before the holidays. They're live
in studio and his thoughts on a Texter question about
running for governor versus running for Senate. And now he
did take the Texter's advice and he is in the
race for US Senate. And if things pan out the
way I think Vegas odds would predict, it'll be Senator
Mark Baisley against Senator John Hickenlooper, who took notice of
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Senator Baisley. It's the reason I invited him back in
studio here and he joins us on Ryan Shuling live
once again in studio today along with Chris Rourke. Ryan
Shuling with you, Senator Baisley, welcome, good warning.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, what changed between what we just heard and
your decision to run for Senate instead of governor?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
You know two things.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
One was my bold My Bold team said came to
me and said, hey, look at all these people running.
Twenty some odd Republicans registered. The conservative vote is just
naturally going to split. It's going to be tougher and
tougher to imagine a win in the primary, which is
(21:30):
obviously the first goal. So they suggested to me boldly,
which I really appreciate. They come to me and said,
we think you ought to consider secretary of State.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I said, that would set.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
You up maybe four years eight years afterward for governor.
And so that began the thought process. But I told
him so, I told him I would give that thought.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Then my.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Colleague in the state Senate, Julie Gonzalez, decided to challenge
Hicking Hooper from the left, know to primary Senator hick
and Looper.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That changed the game. It changed the game. Actually not
that day when when she first.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Announced that, that really surprised me. But the next day
I was at an event where I was the only
Republican and I was amongst many other Democrat legislators and
county commissioners and so on, and I talked with my
Democrat friends there, said, hey, what's with Julie.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know, challenging Hick.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
I was expecting them to come back in defense of
Senator Hickenlooper.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They they did just the opposite.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
They said, well, yeah, we're we're thinking maybe it's time
for him to move on. He's he's maybe getting a
little old for us. I was truly shocked, but that
was part of the gears that started turning into my head.
And I'm gonna, you know what everything that I said
to you prior in that in that last conversation about uh,
(22:55):
that's something I would love to do, and but I
didn't want to do this because that's what would bring
me joy.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
But where is the need?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
So, you know, I look over my shoulder and say,
who else is running in the Republican caucus that could fulfill.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
The governor's race?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I'm thinking, this does not have to be me.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
You know, I'm not the God's answer to everything here,
So let me go chase after Hick and Looper on
this because there was not what was considered a viable
candidate in the race and on the Republican side, on
the Republican side, and that was the interest ces comments
as well. A National Republican Senatorial committee said we need.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
A viable candidate.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Was their pressure onto the state party chair. So they
were thrilled that I got in, and me too, I'm
happy here.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
You know, I think people think that it's unusual for
a candidate to start in one race and then change
to another, and that it gives an appearance that perhaps
you're not focused on your area of service, and that's
so untrue.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
In twenty twenty two, I worked.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
On a Senate campaign and the candidate ended up switching
to a congressional race. And at that time in twenty
twenty two, on the Republican side, the Senate field was
very crowded and there were some great candidates in there,
and it was a smart move on this candidate's part.
You know, the other thing that I see is your
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willingness to give up that race, because we've seen in
the governor's race a candidate actually leave the party because
he feels so strongly about running in this race for
whatever reason.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
And yet it's really.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If he does make the ballot, he will split the vote,
the conservative vote. So you know, what are you as
you're getting on the ground and looking at this new race,
what are you most concerned about? What does the field
look like for Republican candidates? Are you anticipating a primary
candidate that is a challenge? You know what are you
(24:58):
looking at moving forward?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I do have three other that i that I've that
are on my radar.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Anyway, other Republicans who are running for US in it,
and so yeah, it is my hope, of course that
I come out of the Assembly solo, because I'd like
to get to work on the general election.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
As soon as possible.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
That would you know, that would of course be financially
a smart move to have, And so that's what we're
trying to do. You know, the earlier you win the
race in the cycle, the cheaper it is, the more
effective it is. So so we're focusing hard on that
that Assembly. But as far as like topics and so on, well,
the big one, of course, the one that that caused
(25:42):
Ryan to excited him to call me in the first place,
was that that now Senator Hickenlooper's campaign is talking about
me on social media in response to the topic of
the day, which is illegal immigration and the eye response
to the criminals within the country that they're trying to
(26:05):
scoop up and protect Americans by moving them out to
back to their country or spend time in jail, whichever
makes more sense to do. That's a very big issue
all by itself. I'm focusing on the affordability matter, and
I look at affordabili and I know that's another big buzzword,
but truly it is that breathing space between what it
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costs us to live and how much money we're bringing in,
and when that gets squeezed down, then that's when affordability
becomes a challenge, and that happens from way too much
involvement in spending by our government itself.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You can find out more about his campaign Mark Baisley
dot com b A I S L e. Y. Joining
us in studio along with Chris Rourke. Here's truly Ryan Schuley. Well,
one more segment with him when we come back. Then
he's off to the General Assembly, so we're gonna send
him on his way, but we'll run out the hour
with Senator Mark Baisley, candidate for US looking to go
loggerheads with Senator John Hickenlooper. Will have that tweet that
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post on X from the sitting senator. We come back
after this on Ryan Shuling Live. We want to keep the.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Number of immigrants low enough so that those folks will
assimilate into our culture more than they will bring the
richness of their culture.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So now we have chaos.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
We have encouragement by elected officials who say not just
exercise your First Amendment right of protest to go get
involved in a legal law enforcement activity.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
What a horrible idea for everybody.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
It endangers those people, It endangers the agents that are
trying to carry out the lawful orders to remove violent
people from the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Senator Mark Baisley from the floor of the General Assembly.
And this was noticed by one Senator John Hickenlooper. You
guys should be protecting me on stuff like this. Remember
that quote the Ethics investigation. He told nine News flat
out said the quiet part out loud, like, yeah, mainStreet media,
I'm a Democrat. What are you doing here? And he
posts that sound that you just heard from. Senator Baslee
(28:07):
joins us in the studio and says, the following American
citizens shot dead, a five year old, separated from his
family and taken into custody, masked officers tossing people into
unmarked cars without due process, and you're instead going after
peaceful protesters in our immigrant communities. Mark Baisley, Well, how
do you respond, Senator Basley to Senator Hickenlooper, Well, it shows.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Either a lack of understanding or a rejection of just
the basic principles of immigration. We have a and this
is the point that I was making on the floor
that we have an orderly immigration, legal immigration system where
we bring in we invite in legally one point two
million people every year from around the around the globe
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to come be Americans. And this is he's saying, Hey,
you're you're defending the killing of Americans. No, And what
happened under the Biden administration as he kicked open the
doors and uh and just bypassed all the gates and
brought people in unvetted, we ended up with people who
(29:11):
are killing Americans, including Lake and Riley is.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Probably the best known. Also joyce Lyn nunger Ay, the
twelve year old girl who.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
In Houston, Texas, was was raped and strangled by two
illegal alien men. And any rate, this is what we
have called on the Trump administration as a nation to
resolve to make up for that and to escort those
folks back to their countries so that we are not
in danger here.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So it is very unfortunate.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
I find it a heartbreak that a couple of the instigators,
those folks who were getting objecting to the raids, the
ICE activities, got.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
In the way and they and they died from that.
That's that's a shame.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Now I fully support their right to exercise First Amendment
and protest. But this, this agitation that built up to
two shootings is just highly unfortunate. But it's I think
it's mostly caused by the atmosphere created by the political
leadership that calls ICE Nazi and Gestapo and all that,
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and and just builds up that horrible mob rule mentality
that turns into a bubbling up and a crescendo like that.
So that's a shame not but I want to mention
also in his in John Hickenlooper's statement, he says, hey,
they they arrested something like that, a five year old
and took him away from his family. The truth of
that is that they were arresting a suspect who was
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in his car, and his five year old was in
his car with.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Him, and he took off running. Yeah, and as I
understand it, when.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
The ICE agents effectively rescued that abandoned five year old boy,
took him to his home to go hand him over
to his mother, who would not open the door. So
what do you do you take care of a child
like that?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
And they did, and they did absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Senator, you have debate coming up today on the Extreme
Risk Protection Order Lock better known as ERPO. There's an
expansion of that law that's going to include red flag
petitioners from hospitals and schools. You know, with such Republican
minorities in our legislature, how do you see this playing out?
(31:33):
Are we going to see this expansion go through? And
what risk does it have regarding false reporting and the
encroachment on the Second Amendment.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, I am in fear that it will pass. I mean,
it's an addition to the red flag law that passed
before that went too far, and we will, excuse me,
we will debate it hard today on the Senate floor
and that'll go all day.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
But ultimately, yeah, there's.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
There are twenty three Democrats and twelve Republicans in the
Senate and so they will have the majority, and I
would imagine that it will pass. But the effect here
of just this constant creep into our Second Amendment rights
and to expand the institutional people who can anonymously turn
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in folks and have their weapons taken from them. This
is just kind of the constant march that Senator Sullivan
has promised that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He will bring.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
He said he'll keep making up ideas, and that's what he's.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Doing here, you know, and unfortunately we don't see these
laws preventing gun violence whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And specifically, what comes to mind the Club Q shooter
who should have had if a red flag order was
to work. That's an instance where it should have worked.
It didn't work. So if it doesn't work in that instance,
what are we doing here? At Mark Baisley on axes
where you can follow and Mark Beaze his campaign for
Senate S B A I S L E Y. This
(33:05):
Texter says, love how baslely switched to run for US Senate.
So there's an affirmative vote there. Mark, Now you've dropped
out of the governor's race. You've cited several other candidates
in the race who remain. You know, some of the
front runners I've had in this studio, Victor Marx, Barb Kirkmeyer,
Representative Scott Bottoms, Tyler County Sheriff Jason Mike Sel. Will
you endorse any of those candidates another candidate? Do you
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feel it's important that you come out and endorse and
stump in favor of one of those candidates in the primary?
Are you going to sit this one out?
Speaker 8 (33:34):
I'm not going to put my finger on that scale.
You know, there there's more than one candidate in that
race that I just really love and and think could
could handle the job very well. So anyway, I'm just
I think it's not not for me to to push
for that through the rest of the process. I'm just
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gonna let that play out amongst the Republicans to select
the the nominee to go up against probably Michael Bennett
and could be full wiser, who knows, But there's more
than one on our side that I would have tremendous
confidence in.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
But I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You are a dark horse, no doubt. You mentioned the
numbers not only the general Assembly, but the voters in Colorado,
where the median voter is in this state is probably
a center left unaffiliated who typically votes Democrats, So you'd
have to peel off a number of those voters. There's
the primary process. We talked about both on the air
and during the break about the SENATORA Julie Gonzalez running
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head to head against John Hickenlooper, hopefully draining him of
funds that he won't be able to spend against you
in a general election race. But if it comes down
to you versus hick and Looper, what do you think
is the biggest advantage you have in that race and
what is the biggest obstacle you think you'll have to overcome.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
So the biggest advantage is that America is going through
a renaissance right now, and it's the whole.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Nation, not the whole nation.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Most of the nation, but not Colorado, has has joined
in what Carly Simon's famously said, these are the good
old days, and so there's a lot of really great
things that are happening coming out of us common sense.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Being employed in Washington, d C.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
The different biggest difference here that I think the advantage,
to answer your question directly between myself and Senator Hickenlooper
is that I am very positive about that and want
for us to have our voice at our place.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
In that renaissance.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
And he fights it every inch of the way because
Orange man bad, and I just think it's just it's
just simple and shameful that we are not benefiting from
all the good stuff now where.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Speaking of his advantage, it's money.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
I mean he's got like three and a half million
dollars or something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I don't know, maybe's twice that I don't know how
much it is. I mean, money is coming in for me.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Which I really appreciate, but I got a long way
to go to catch up to millions of dollars. Hopefully
he'll have the opportunity to spend a whole lot of
that on Julia Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Quick follow up to that. You know that the nationally
talk about the National Committee that was trying to encourage
you to run. Are they going to put their money
where their mouth is talking about John fun Rick Scott,
the typical leaders in the Senate. They need those advantages.
They want to expand on those margins from fifty three
to forty seven. They would love you to pick off
that seat. What kind of support or help do you
think you're going to get from them?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So it will boil down to they'll see, is there
an opportunity where we could pick up Colorado? And so
my job is to convince them that it is possible
through fundraising, through just good hard campaigning, great contrast, just
the general trend of attitude in the state. But another
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factor for them is to say, not only would they
love to see another flip, but if they start putting
money into another race that liked this one, then that
will divert Democrats spending money away from Georgia and Maine
some of the other races. And this is what they're
telling me is uh yeah, tempt us with having to
move our money over to your race so that they
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will have to spend more on deliver.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I always appreciate the access he's got to go to
the General Assembly and fight against this expansion of the
red Flag law, which was Chris pointed out, would extend
to therapists, hospitals, schools, just a cornucopia and really a
Pandora's box opening up in attacking our Second Amendment rights.
He is standing in the breach fighting for those two
A rights. Mark Baisley dot com where you can find
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out more about his campaign for Senate. That's b A
I S L e Y dot com and you can
follow on X by that same handle at Mark Baisley.
That's Mark with a K. Senator. Always grateful for your time,
Thank you so much for joining us, Thank you Ryan,
thank you Chris, and for Chris Rourk. I'm Ryan Shchuling
signing off for this hour. We'll be back with more
after this on Ryan Shuling Live.
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believes that as well. Chris Rourke in studio not annoying
with yours. Truly Ryan Schuling. This is Ryan Schuling live,
and I gotta believe it feels a lot like Groundhog
Day every day at the General Assembly, and we're joined
(02:22):
by Representative Carlos Baron doing the good work there on
behalf of the people from his district that's forty eight.
Just saw him fresh off of his very impressive chili
cookout performance in Willed County. Representative Baron, thanks for taking
the time.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Good morning, Ryan, It's always great to be here with you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now that comparison to today's holiday, Groundhog Day, same day,
over and over again, same thing, different you know, same song,
different verse. Democrats coming up with all these terrible bills.
What was that first day of the General Assembly back
at work like for you? What did you notice what
stood out?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well, it's it's just the same thing, basically. Yeah, Brownhall
Day is a very very good reference to what we
feel here at the State at the State Capitol every day.
It's over and over again. Once these bills get introduced,
it's like the same thing. They're trying to recycle, the
same kind of legislation, the same rule making, just in
(03:20):
a in a different way. But yeah, it feels like
it's when we're living the same day for the one
hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 9 (03:30):
Good morning, This is Chris Rourke.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
I want to know, I've seen a lot of these
bills come up, like you say, over and over again,
energy labor bill that that was defeated last year, other
things that are impacting us on a daily basis, the
gun bills that are coming up.
Speaker 9 (03:49):
What is most concerning to you right now?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The most concerning thing is Yeah, of course energy. The
attack on the oil and gas industry, which is a
huge in my districts. If you know the area of
House District forty eight, northern part of Adams County and
mostly Wealth County to the south end of Greeley, it's
huge for energy, oil and gas. And that's what's more
concerning is that they're not attacking oil and gas directly.
(04:17):
They're attacking oil and gas indirectly through clean air policies,
which I'm glad that I'm on energy and environment community
because I can speak to those I have first time
experience from the ground level and oil and gas for
twenty three years. I know how clean it is, I
know how safe it is, and over here they're portraying
(04:37):
it like it's like it's like an industry that's killing
the environment and killing people on a daily basis. No,
that's not how it is. I keep getting asked every
time if I've seen the show land Man. And I've
seen the show land Man. It's a great drama. I
love the show. That's not the oil and gas industry.
(05:00):
And that's what really worries me is that the public
perception that the people that are watching that show that's
what they think oil and gas really is. But no,
it isn't like that, not even close.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Yeah, you know you talk about attack on energy and
clean air. We recently saw the Public Utilities Commission make
this decision to up its target goal on reducing emissions
forty percent by twenty thirty five. That means, I think
it's six hundred thousand homes must convert to electric heat
or electric powered heat. And yet yesterday we had a
(05:35):
power outage that affected much of the Denver area. I've
heard a lot about the Republican Caucus tackling this in
this session.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
What do you see as a solution.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yes, that is one of those things that is coming up,
and that where we're trying to tackle right now. Actually, yeah,
I can say that safely right now because my bill
is about to be introduced. I'm running a bill with
Representative Flannel on tackling that issue allowing for natural gas
to be used in residential homes for heating. So I'm
(06:11):
basically trying to win aid that ruling and and not
take away an option for energy. And we had a
smart actuary with the PUC on Friday, and even as
director of the PUS, he said who are we to
tell people what type of energy to use to heat
their home? So this is going to go well for
(06:31):
my bill. It's going to take away residentials away from
the clean energy, the clean heating push. And uh yeah,
that's that's the way I'm tackling personally, and Mike Cocker
who behind me, getting a lot of traction for this bill.
It's I don't have a bill number just yet, but
as soon as I get I get those lease I
will let everybody know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Representative Carlos Barone representing the forty eighth district and that
is to the north, as he mentioned a good portion
of Adams County as well as well going down to
Greeley joining us here and Ryan Scherling live Chris Rourke
in studio with me. Now, this was posted on your
ex feed. Bethany Pray, chief legal policy officer for the
(07:10):
Colorado Center of Law. This exchange, you asked her a question.
I'm going to play this for the audience and get
your reaction on the other side. In HHS Committee last Wednesday.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
Previous statement, you based affordability of health after expenses of
rents and food. So my question is do you believe
that's a trickle down effect on regulation on housing and
affordability on food as well. That also has an effect
on affordability on medication and not the other way around,
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or do you see it going both ways?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Thank you, Madam chair. I mean, we have state problems
with affordability and all areas. My organization does work on
multiple areas health, housing, income, and food, and you know,
we see problems for affordability and rental, health and purchasing,
housing and food access and also in the functioning of
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our public programs that help support those areas. So I
don't know whether there's a cause and effect here or
whether this is a you know, just there are a
lot of different factors happening at the same point at
the same time. But Medicaid and SNAP, the Food Assistance
program really are essential in supporting people because we have
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housing that's going to take a while to get that
under control. I mean, we're not going to solve the
housing crisis this year. In the meantime, while people are
struggling with these costs plus childcare costs which are enormous,
you know, bigger than people's mortgages in many cases, we
need to have healthy Medicaid program, CHIP program, and snap program.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
As you ask on this post for Representative bar Own,
you say, if healthcare affordability keeps falling behind housing and
other costs, is that the consequence of Colorado's increasingly burdened
some regulatory environment. What did you make of the answer
that you heard right there that you posted, and what
do you think is central to the core of the
problem and the issue here?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, thank you, Ryan, And that was great. That's that
was the answer I was actually expecting. I was she
as you as you heard, she said, We're not going
to solve the housing crisis this uh, this year or
very soon. People are starting to see that the overregulation
of this state is causing a lot of prices to increase,
(09:35):
and it's going to affect other other areas of their life,
like like medical care. It's going to affect when when
they can go feel their vehicle per week, you know
what I mean. So that was the exact answer I wanted.
I wanted to put it on record that people are
seeing this and and and and and let other people know,
you know, when they're like, why is this going up?
(09:56):
You know, let let people know this is it's over regulation.
We're over regulating these industries to a point where it's
going to be unaffordable for you to be able to
do something else as well. You're not just you're not
just going to be able, uh, struggle to afford groceries.
Now you're going to struggle for your medical care. Now
you're going to struggle to for your energy. So that's
(10:17):
the answer that I really really wanted, and that's why
I posted that one because it was on record.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
It's really the big squeeze, you know, for Colorado families.
I mean, affordability has been the big thing why people
are leaving Colorado.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, affordability is definitely one of those top top issues
that people are struggling with here in the state of Colorado.
And we're trying our best here where we really are
trying to deregulate a lot of these industries. We're trying
to lower the cost of everything. And then but they
keep bringing up bills that implement fees on everything and
it start enterprises to pay for other things. Like it's uh,
(10:55):
we we we say this time and time again here
at the well. We do not have a revenue problem.
The tax revenue is coming in. We went from a
nineteen billion dollar budget in twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty I'm sorry to a forty four billion dollar budget
that we just passed last year. So the revenue's coming in,
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it's just we are not prioritizing the money to the
places they need to go. All these pet projects being
brought up, all these social programs that are beinging brought
up that are not necessary right now. We need to
fully fund, well, we are constitutionally obligated to fully fund,
and what's left over, we can talk about social programs,
(11:39):
we can talk about everything else, but the priority is
backwards on this.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Yeah, under this governor, I believe the budget has expanded
forty one percent in eight years. That's a huge difference. Representative,
you also serve on Health and Human Services. What do
you see coming up as your biggest concern there?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Health and Human Services? This year is going to be
one of those committees that are going to come go
into the late of the night with some of these
bills coming through. And I can't speak right now onto
which one is the most concerning because there's a lot
of them. But yeah, I'm on that committee to try
to put a little bit more common sense. I was
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placed on that because of my common sense and business
and being on the ground level on how how health
issues really affect the consumer the employees from the business standpoint.
So I'm really excited to be on that committee and
try to put my point of view and ask the
(12:40):
right questions and get people on record and being able
to vote for the people of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
House District forty eight Representative Carlos Brone our guest here
this morning, Love Chris Rourke, Im Ryan Schuling, Carlos. When
you mentioned land Man earlier, that stuck with me a
little bit, and I think for our listeners as well,
because we watched that show and it's been heralded by
many of us on the right as presenting oil and
gas and a favorable light within context comparing the cost
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to windmills and all these other natural energy sources that
are far more expensive and cost prohibitive, especially here in
a state like Colorado. But you had mentioned that it
is a misconception. It's fiction, it's drama, it's entertainment. Yeah,
we know all that, But what is the biggest thing
you think that show gets wrong? And what if people
need to know about the reality of the oil and
(13:30):
gas industry in Colorado and in your district.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, sure, thank you, right for that question. So it
starts off with season one, episode one right away, it
portrays for the drama aspect of that big explosion of
the well at the end of the first episode. Right.
I'm afraid people see that and say, oh, that happens
in the oil and gas industry every day. It does not.
(13:55):
The actors in the show in that scene, the gas
monitors weren't. We are very strict in the oil and
gas that our gas monitors need to be calibrated and
working before we leave the shop into the field. So
if the gas miners were working, they would have caught
that leak way ahead of time. That would never have happened.
They use they use an iron hammer to try to
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open a valve. We don't use iron hammers. We use
comprehenders because they do not produce a spark. But at
the same time, we would never open a valve trying
to open it with a hammer. If that valve doesn't open,
that line gets shut down and that valve, that valve
gets replaced immediately. So those are those are the kind
of things that I'm that I'm that I that I
(14:37):
nitpake and I see it when I'm blocking it like, oh,
we would never do that. Oh, that doesn't happen. Oh
they forgot to do the red zone checklist, you know,
stuff like that, and uh. And I'm afraid that the
public perception of them thinking that that happens every day
is totally wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
You know, I haven't thought of it that way, and
I love the series, but I do know the oil
and gas industry does have a lot of safeguards. It
has a lot of safety management systems, and maybe share
a little bit more on that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Sure. So important for you to be able to work
in the oil and gas industry, you have to go
through a twelve hour training called the Safeland training. That's
a safety course or for new employees of the oil
and gas industry. It shows you everything from safety aspects
to environmental aspects. If you if your work truck leaks
(15:32):
engine oil on location, even if it's a one inch
by one inch drop, we have to stop work, get
a resonant checklist, call in, locate and clean that up
because we don't need that there. So that's all our
safety training is a safe land training. You have to
have your PEC card to be able to work in
the oil and gas industry. Not just that. We use
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FR clothing f R two specifically, so you can't even
be on location without your PPE, which fur clothing is
part of that. What FR does, it's a fire retardant
clothing that gives you minutes. If it is an explosion,
you don't catch on fire right away. It gives you
minutes to walk out, to run out, and you will
(16:15):
not catch on fire. Your safety helmet. You always have
to have your hard hat on at all times, safety glasses,
feel toe boots. All of this is being regulated very
very strictly in the oil and gas industry. You cannot
be on location without a four gas monitor right next
to your to your face. So on the environmental side,
(16:38):
whenever we are digging up you know we're going to
put in a new line that goes from from the
well to the separator, and we accidentally run into some
contaminated soil, we stop work right there. An environmental guy
from the company Occidental or share around, whatever company we're
working for. He comes out, you tests all soiled. If
that soil tests to be contaminated, even if it's not
(17:00):
their fault, we start a contamination clean up. We start
cleaning up that soil until that so that hole is
cleaned from contaminate from contamination. So they do care about
the environment. They clean it, even if it's not their fault,
even if that contamination was was there before they even
started drilling.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Important details on a very important industry here in Colorado
and important in his district. The forty eighth Oil and
Gas representive, Carlos Baron our guests, and finally, you know,
I saved the most important question for last, Carlos, and
that is your secret ingredient and chili, if you're willing
to share it. It was spicy. You and I talked
about it. I really liked it. Wanted some more of that.
(17:43):
What is that? And how do you come up with
your recipe for chili?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, actually was my mother's recipe and the use habanero
bonero cheesess and yet yea, yes, avonero chilas is what
was using that chili, And I used a lot less
because I knew it was going to go to you.
I didn't want to. I don't want you guys to
burden your tongues by well.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It was a solid representation and submission. He finished third
at the Weld County Chili Cookoff there put on by
the GOP and Natalie Tenant. Carlos, great seeing you there,
great having you on the show here today. Thank you
for all the good work you're doing on behalf of
your district, the entire state of Colorado. Because I tell
you what, I got a dem Rep here that's not
acting in my best interest. So I turn to individuals
(18:31):
like you, the mighty ones in the House to stand
your ground. You're doing just that. Thank you for all
you doing. Thanks for your time here today.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I appreciate it. Ryan, Thank you too for doing everything
that you do as well.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
For percenta of Carlos Baron, you can follow him on
x at Rep. Carlos Barone Chris Rourke in studio for
the full hour each and every Monday with our weekend
recap and when we come back. Senator Mark Baisley scheduled
to join us in our studio exactly as he has
shifted his campaign from governor to Senate and John hick
Looper has taken notice back with that. After this on
(19:02):
Ryan Schuling Live goes for Senator kirk Meyer from this
Texter like kirk Meyer, I like Baisley, but we need
someone to run for Senate. Why did he decide governor instead?
And who will the Republicans get to run against Hick
and Looper? So, Senator walk us through that decision, if
you would place.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, if I were doing this just for my own enjoyment,
I would run for US Senate, just because I think
it would be great fun to go serve at the
same level or at a higher level, but the same
job that I'm doing as a legislator and in this
in the Senate, and I.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Prefer serving in the Senate.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Over the House is just a little more my style,
I guess, than the all the raucous fighting in the House,
which I miss on occasion. But so that would that
would be cool for me. I would love to go
serve in the in the US Senate. However, I feel
called to serve in the Governor's office. I look at
my fellow travelers that are also running for this this position,
(20:01):
good friends, people.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I like and respect.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
But I feel like I'm the best positioned and best
informed and best prepared in business management to take on
this is a forty four billion dollar annual operation. None
of us has operated a business at that level, but
I think I've operated a business at a higher level
than any of my compadres there, So I think I
(20:26):
can take it on.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Senator Mark Baisley joining me before the holidays. They're live
in studio and his thoughts on a Texter question about
running for governor versus running for Senate. And now he
did take the Texter's advice and he is in the
race for US Senate. And if things pan out the
way I think Vegas odds would predict, it'll be Senator
Mark Baisley against Senator John Hickenlooper, who took notice of
(20:49):
Senator Baisley. It's the reason I invited him back in
studio here and he joins us on Ryan Shuling live
once again in studio today along with Chris Rourke. Ryan
Shuling with you, Senator Baisley, welcome, good warning.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, what changed between what we just heard and
your decision to run for Senate instead of governor?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
You know two things.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
One was my bold My Bold team said came to
me and said, hey, look at all these people running.
Twenty some odd Republicans registered. The conservative vote is just
naturally going to split. It's going to be tougher and
tougher to imagine a win in the primary, which is
(21:30):
obviously the first goal. So they suggested to me boldly,
which I really appreciate. They come to me and said,
we think you ought to consider secretary of State.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I said, that would set.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
You up maybe four years eight years afterward for governor.
And so that began the thought process. But I told
him so, I told him I would give that thought.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Then my.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Colleague in the state Senate, Julie Gonzalez, decided to challenge
Hicking Hooper from the left, know to primary Senator hick
and Looper.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That changed the game. It changed the game. Actually not
that day when when she first.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Announced that, that really surprised me. But the next day
I was at an event where I was the only
Republican and I was amongst many other Democrat legislators and
county commissioners and so on, and I talked with my
Democrat friends there, said, hey, what's with Julie.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know, challenging Hick.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
I was expecting them to come back in defense of
Senator Hickenlooper.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They they did just the opposite.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
They said, well, yeah, we're we're thinking maybe it's time
for him to move on. He's he's maybe getting a
little old for us. I was truly shocked, but that
was part of the gears that started turning into my head.
And I'm gonna, you know what everything that I said
to you prior in that in that last conversation about uh,
(22:55):
that's something I would love to do, and but I
didn't want to do this because that's what would bring
me joy.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
But where is the need?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
So, you know, I look over my shoulder and say,
who else is running in the Republican caucus that could fulfill.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
The governor's race?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I'm thinking, this does not have to be me.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
You know, I'm not the God's answer to everything here,
So let me go chase after Hick and Looper on
this because there was not what was considered a viable
candidate in the race and on the Republican side, on
the Republican side, and that was the interest ces comments
as well. A National Republican Senatorial committee said we need.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
A viable candidate.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Was their pressure onto the state party chair. So they
were thrilled that I got in, and me too, I'm
happy here.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
You know, I think people think that it's unusual for
a candidate to start in one race and then change
to another, and that it gives an appearance that perhaps
you're not focused on your area of service, and that's
so untrue.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
In twenty twenty two, I worked.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
On a Senate campaign and the candidate ended up switching
to a congressional race. And at that time in twenty
twenty two, on the Republican side, the Senate field was
very crowded and there were some great candidates in there,
and it was a smart move on this candidate's part.
You know, the other thing that I see is your
(24:23):
willingness to give up that race, because we've seen in
the governor's race a candidate actually leave the party because
he feels so strongly about running in this race for
whatever reason.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
And yet it's really.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If he does make the ballot, he will split the vote,
the conservative vote. So you know, what are you as
you're getting on the ground and looking at this new race,
what are you most concerned about? What does the field
look like for Republican candidates? Are you anticipating a primary
candidate that is a challenge? You know what are you
(24:58):
looking at moving forward?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I do have three other that i that I've that
are on my radar.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Anyway, other Republicans who are running for US in it,
and so yeah, it is my hope, of course that
I come out of the Assembly solo, because I'd like
to get to work on the general election.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
As soon as possible.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
That would you know, that would of course be financially
a smart move to have, And so that's what we're
trying to do. You know, the earlier you win the
race in the cycle, the cheaper it is, the more
effective it is. So so we're focusing hard on that
that Assembly. But as far as like topics and so on, well,
the big one, of course, the one that that caused
(25:42):
Ryan to excited him to call me in the first place,
was that that now Senator Hickenlooper's campaign is talking about
me on social media in response to the topic of
the day, which is illegal immigration and the eye response
to the criminals within the country that they're trying to
(26:05):
scoop up and protect Americans by moving them out to
back to their country or spend time in jail, whichever
makes more sense to do. That's a very big issue
all by itself. I'm focusing on the affordability matter, and
I look at affordabili and I know that's another big buzzword,
but truly it is that breathing space between what it
(26:29):
costs us to live and how much money we're bringing in,
and when that gets squeezed down, then that's when affordability
becomes a challenge, and that happens from way too much
involvement in spending by our government itself.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You can find out more about his campaign Mark Baisley
dot com b A I S L e. Y. Joining
us in studio along with Chris Rourke. Here's truly Ryan Schuley. Well,
one more segment with him when we come back. Then
he's off to the General Assembly, so we're gonna send
him on his way, but we'll run out the hour
with Senator Mark Baisley, candidate for US looking to go
loggerheads with Senator John Hickenlooper. Will have that tweet that
(27:04):
post on X from the sitting senator. We come back
after this on Ryan Shuling Live. We want to keep the.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Number of immigrants low enough so that those folks will
assimilate into our culture more than they will bring the
richness of their culture.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So now we have chaos.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
We have encouragement by elected officials who say not just
exercise your First Amendment right of protest to go get
involved in a legal law enforcement activity.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
What a horrible idea for everybody.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
It endangers those people, It endangers the agents that are
trying to carry out the lawful orders to remove violent
people from the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Senator Mark Baisley from the floor of the General Assembly.
And this was noticed by one Senator John Hickenlooper. You
guys should be protecting me on stuff like this. Remember
that quote the Ethics investigation. He told nine News flat
out said the quiet part out loud, like, yeah, mainStreet media,
I'm a Democrat. What are you doing here? And he
posts that sound that you just heard from. Senator Baslee
(28:07):
joins us in the studio and says, the following American
citizens shot dead, a five year old, separated from his
family and taken into custody, masked officers tossing people into
unmarked cars without due process, and you're instead going after
peaceful protesters in our immigrant communities. Mark Baisley, Well, how
do you respond, Senator Basley to Senator Hickenlooper, Well, it shows.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Either a lack of understanding or a rejection of just
the basic principles of immigration. We have a and this
is the point that I was making on the floor
that we have an orderly immigration, legal immigration system where
we bring in we invite in legally one point two
million people every year from around the around the globe
(28:51):
to come be Americans. And this is he's saying, Hey,
you're you're defending the killing of Americans. No, And what
happened under the Biden administration as he kicked open the
doors and uh and just bypassed all the gates and
brought people in unvetted, we ended up with people who
(29:11):
are killing Americans, including Lake and Riley is.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Probably the best known. Also joyce Lyn nunger Ay, the
twelve year old girl who.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
In Houston, Texas, was was raped and strangled by two
illegal alien men. And any rate, this is what we
have called on the Trump administration as a nation to
resolve to make up for that and to escort those
folks back to their countries so that we are not
in danger here.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So it is very unfortunate.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
I find it a heartbreak that a couple of the instigators,
those folks who were getting objecting to the raids, the
ICE activities, got.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
In the way and they and they died from that.
That's that's a shame.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Now I fully support their right to exercise First Amendment
and protest. But this, this agitation that built up to
two shootings is just highly unfortunate. But it's I think
it's mostly caused by the atmosphere created by the political
leadership that calls ICE Nazi and Gestapo and all that,
(30:22):
and and just builds up that horrible mob rule mentality
that turns into a bubbling up and a crescendo like that.
So that's a shame not but I want to mention
also in his in John Hickenlooper's statement, he says, hey,
they they arrested something like that, a five year old
and took him away from his family. The truth of
that is that they were arresting a suspect who was
(30:46):
in his car, and his five year old was in
his car with.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Him, and he took off running. Yeah, and as I
understand it, when.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
The ICE agents effectively rescued that abandoned five year old boy,
took him to his home to go hand him over
to his mother, who would not open the door. So
what do you do you take care of a child
like that?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
And they did, and they did absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Senator, you have debate coming up today on the Extreme
Risk Protection Order Lock better known as ERPO. There's an
expansion of that law that's going to include red flag
petitioners from hospitals and schools. You know, with such Republican
minorities in our legislature, how do you see this playing out?
(31:33):
Are we going to see this expansion go through? And
what risk does it have regarding false reporting and the
encroachment on the Second Amendment.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, I am in fear that it will pass. I mean,
it's an addition to the red flag law that passed
before that went too far, and we will, excuse me,
we will debate it hard today on the Senate floor
and that'll go all day.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
But ultimately, yeah, there's.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
There are twenty three Democrats and twelve Republicans in the
Senate and so they will have the majority, and I
would imagine that it will pass. But the effect here
of just this constant creep into our Second Amendment rights
and to expand the institutional people who can anonymously turn
(32:25):
in folks and have their weapons taken from them. This
is just kind of the constant march that Senator Sullivan
has promised that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He will bring.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
He said he'll keep making up ideas, and that's what he's.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Doing here, you know, and unfortunately we don't see these
laws preventing gun violence whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And specifically, what comes to mind the Club Q shooter
who should have had if a red flag order was
to work. That's an instance where it should have worked.
It didn't work. So if it doesn't work in that instance,
what are we doing here? At Mark Baisley on axes
where you can follow and Mark Beaze his campaign for
Senate S B A I S L E Y. This
(33:05):
Texter says, love how baslely switched to run for US Senate.
So there's an affirmative vote there. Mark, Now you've dropped
out of the governor's race. You've cited several other candidates
in the race who remain. You know, some of the
front runners I've had in this studio, Victor Marx, Barb Kirkmeyer,
Representative Scott Bottoms, Tyler County Sheriff Jason Mike Sel. Will
you endorse any of those candidates another candidate? Do you
(33:27):
feel it's important that you come out and endorse and
stump in favor of one of those candidates in the primary?
Are you going to sit this one out?
Speaker 8 (33:34):
I'm not going to put my finger on that scale.
You know, there there's more than one candidate in that
race that I just really love and and think could
could handle the job very well. So anyway, I'm just
I think it's not not for me to to push
for that through the rest of the process. I'm just
(33:55):
gonna let that play out amongst the Republicans to select
the the nominee to go up against probably Michael Bennett
and could be full wiser, who knows, But there's more
than one on our side that I would have tremendous
confidence in.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
But I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You are a dark horse, no doubt. You mentioned the
numbers not only the general Assembly, but the voters in Colorado,
where the median voter is in this state is probably
a center left unaffiliated who typically votes Democrats, So you'd
have to peel off a number of those voters. There's
the primary process. We talked about both on the air
and during the break about the SENATORA Julie Gonzalez running
(34:33):
head to head against John Hickenlooper, hopefully draining him of
funds that he won't be able to spend against you
in a general election race. But if it comes down
to you versus hick and Looper, what do you think
is the biggest advantage you have in that race and
what is the biggest obstacle you think you'll have to overcome.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
So the biggest advantage is that America is going through
a renaissance right now, and it's the whole.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Nation, not the whole nation.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Most of the nation, but not Colorado, has has joined
in what Carly Simon's famously said, these are the good
old days, and so there's a lot of really great
things that are happening coming out of us common sense.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Being employed in Washington, d C.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
The different biggest difference here that I think the advantage,
to answer your question directly between myself and Senator Hickenlooper
is that I am very positive about that and want
for us to have our voice at our place.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
In that renaissance.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
And he fights it every inch of the way because
Orange man bad, and I just think it's just it's
just simple and shameful that we are not benefiting from
all the good stuff now where.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Speaking of his advantage, it's money.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
I mean he's got like three and a half million
dollars or something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I don't know, maybe's twice that I don't know how
much it is. I mean, money is coming in for me.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Which I really appreciate, but I got a long way
to go to catch up to millions of dollars. Hopefully
he'll have the opportunity to spend a whole lot of
that on Julia Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Quick follow up to that. You know that the nationally
talk about the National Committee that was trying to encourage
you to run. Are they going to put their money
where their mouth is talking about John fun Rick Scott,
the typical leaders in the Senate. They need those advantages.
They want to expand on those margins from fifty three
to forty seven. They would love you to pick off
that seat. What kind of support or help do you
think you're going to get from them?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So it will boil down to they'll see, is there
an opportunity where we could pick up Colorado? And so
my job is to convince them that it is possible
through fundraising, through just good hard campaigning, great contrast, just
the general trend of attitude in the state. But another
(36:48):
factor for them is to say, not only would they
love to see another flip, but if they start putting
money into another race that liked this one, then that
will divert Democrats spending money away from Georgia and Maine
some of the other races. And this is what they're
telling me is uh yeah, tempt us with having to
move our money over to your race so that they
(37:11):
will have to spend more on deliver.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I always appreciate the access he's got to go to
the General Assembly and fight against this expansion of the
red Flag law, which was Chris pointed out, would extend
to therapists, hospitals, schools, just a cornucopia and really a
Pandora's box opening up in attacking our Second Amendment rights.
He is standing in the breach fighting for those two
A rights. Mark Baisley dot com where you can find
(37:35):
out more about his campaign for Senate. That's b A
I S L e Y dot com and you can
follow on X by that same handle at Mark Baisley.
That's Mark with a K. Senator. Always grateful for your time,
Thank you so much for joining us, Thank you Ryan,
thank you Chris, and for Chris Rourk. I'm Ryan Shchuling
signing off for this hour. We'll be back with more
after this on Ryan Shuling Live.
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