February 23, 2026 • 37 mins
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) joins with an update on legislation he is pursuing at the federal level to combat restrictive Artificial Intelligence laws in blue states, including 'algorithmic discrimination' in Colorado, which is sending companies like Palantir for greener (redder?) pastures and costing our state jobs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KRFX HD two Denver KHW, Denver. This is six thirty
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Guaranteed Human joining us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
He's the congressman in the eighth Congressional district for Colorado,
and he's driving around the outer reaches of his district.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It sounds like right now.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
With some sketchy cell phone service. So we'll see if
we can get this conversation in. Representative Gabe Evans, our guests, Congressman,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
As always, always good to be on with you now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Congressman, I was reliably told, I believe it was Pete
Budajet's Secretary of Transportation that said all this money that
was invested in the Infrastructure Bill was going to give
us broadband access to the Internet. They're going to be
charging stations everywhere. I have to assume that cell phone
coverage would be pristine. That has not been the case
on any of those fronts. What are your observations along
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those lines in the district you represent.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I mean, I'll add to that list of things
that they've had to turn the power off here in
the state of Colorado. Four i'ms in the last three
months now, three times up north, once down south, where
we literally can't even keep the electric grid running and
the lights on when the wind blows. We know our
roadways in Colorado are crumbling, depending on urban versus rural
and which analysis you use, fourth to eighth worst roadways
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in the nation. And so we have to be able
to invest in infrastructure, whether that's broadband, whether that's keeping
the lights on, whether that's our roadways and our infrastructure,
our pipeline, so many other things that have just been
horrifyingly neglected by the Democrats as they pursue this all
out ideological shift towards their rainbow and Unicorn's vision for
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the economy.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now, you must have been pressent or had an eye
on the prize here as it comes to AI and
joining forces with Congressman Nick Langworthy of New York sending
a letter to Howard Lutnik, the Secretary of Commerce, talking
about artificial intelligence and what would follow after as you
send this letter is a big move here in Colorado,
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and it's not a good one. Pallanteer, one of the
largest employers in the state, moves out of Denver, moves
down to Miami, Florida, and in large part it's because
of this so called consumer Protections for Artificial Intelligence bill
that was sponsored by some radical leftists here in the
General Assembly where you used to reside, and they come
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down to this term algorithmic discrimination. Can you walk us
through that term a little bit, what it means and
why it's so important to the left.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean I was in the state legislature, as
you noted, when this bill was being debated. What democrats
in this particular area are scared of is AI. And
they're afraid that AI is going to discriminate against all
of the different artificial divisions that democrats love to force
into our society. They're afraid that AI might misgender someone
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or do some other sort of action like that, and
so they've passed this incredibly onerous regulatory framework here in
the United States. Huson not in the United States and Colorado.
That's just incredibly damaging to be able to grow and
develop and innovate something like AI, which like it or not,
AI is here. The only question is are we going
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to maintain our position of global leadership in the AI
space as the United States and as areas like Colorado
that should be leaders in AI or are we going
to strangle ourselves with red tape over a poorly thought
out laws like this one that's going to drive jobs,
drive creation and development out of Colorado, out of the
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United States and send it into the arms of communist China.
If you're nervous about AI, you need to be terrified
about communist China becoming the global leader in AI because
it was driven out of places like Colorado as a
result of Colorado's AI law.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
There were many on the left congressmen who were celebrating
the exodus a pollunteer for some reason.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But I kind of ponder.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That with there's nothing to replace it. And further that point,
what you're talking about right there, because this law is
so onerous and a disincentive for businesses to come here
set up shop in Colorado, and not only will prevent
other businesses from relocating here with the hopes of maybe
doing the research and development for AI, but there may
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be other companies that because of this ridiculous law, And
I don't even know what the endgame is for it.
As it comes to this kind of Orwellian term algorithmic discrimination,
it's a barrier to entry it's an incentive to leave,
and I don't think it stops with Palenteer.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
What say you you look now further than the Colorado
Department of Labor's statistics. We know what the left loves
to do. They like to blame Trump for everything. But
if you go look at the Colorado Department of Labor
statistics from February twenty twenty four to February twenty twenty five,
So this is pre Trump, the last year before Trump
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took office and came back in in his second term.
The state of Colorado lost fourteen thousand, seven hundred private
sector jobs. In that same time period Feb twenty four
to Feb twenty five, the state added fifteen thousand, two
hundred government jobs. So we are driving private sector job jobs,
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we're driving innovators, we're driving job creators out of the
state of Colorado, and we're replacing them with bureaucrats and
more regulatory burden, more governments. That, as you said, just
creates even further barriers to entry and makes it more
difficult for any company, whether it's volunteer, whether it's AI,
whether it's so many other companies to either stay in
business in Colorado or choose Colorado to relocate too, when
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we're literally driving out private sector jobs and replacing them
with government bureaucrats that regulate innovators and job creators into
the ground and ultimately out of the state.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Congressman Gave Evans eighth District here in Colorado right out
in front of this issue on artificial intelligence and where
it goes from here, Joining with fellow Congressman Nick Langworthy
New York State, they're facing similar restrictions and no surprise
there in a blue state like New York with their
Raise Act, and it's kind of like the wild West
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right now. You point this out and the press release, Gabe,
that there's kind of like patchwork state regulations policies coming through.
It makes it very confusing, I think on the whole
when we don't have a unified federal policy on the issue.
So what was the motivation between behind writing this letter
to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik specifically and where do you
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hope it goes from here?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Again, it ties directly back to my background that you
and I always talk about. I spent twelve years in
the US Army to include a combat deployment overseas and
other ten years in law enforcement, so public safety and
national security is incredibly important to me. And making sure
that the United States is the global leader in things
like AI that has a direct nexus to our ability
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to protect our homeland, to be able to counter emerge
threats around the country, and again to be able to
protect our economy by making sure that we are the
global leaders in things like AI. And so sitting on
the Homeland Security Committee in Washington, d C. Which obviously
has jurisdiction over homeland security and protecting the homeland, also
sitting on the Energy and Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction
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over about eighty percent of the United States economy. And
then coming from a blue state and my colleague that
you've mentioned, coming from New York, we see these challenges.
We understand how critically important it is that we have
just a common sensetional rules of the road policy. So
all that companies that want to develop, want to innovate,
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want to make sure that the United States remains the
global leader in AI instead of ceding that ground to
the Communist Party over in China. They have to have
just basic rules of the road in order to be
able to innovate, to be able to create jobs and
be able to develop these technolologies as these technologies grow
to fruition. What Colorado, what New York, what other states
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are doing is laws that mean that a company has
to comply with very onerous laws in Colorado, and then
a different standard in New York, right, and then a
different standard in California. And this patchwork is incredibly damaging
to being able to again make sure that the United
States is the global leader in this technology if you
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have to meet fifty different standards.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Congressman Evans joining us talking about this very crucial issue
of artificial intelligence and the damaging blow to the Colorado
economy and jobs with the departure of Pollenteer to South Florida,
a red state where it would make sense it's more
business friendly, but that a uniform federal standard would seem
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to require an Act of Congress. I understand gave that
there are concerns about AI and the downside to it
the collection of data. What does it know about us?
How does follow us in our everyday lives? How can
it take information from us? And what does it use
that information for? But like you said, it's either leader
get out of the way on this and have Communists
China just bulldoze us on it and win in the marketplace,
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which we certainly do not want. Do you get the
feeling that there might be some bipartisan support here and
act of Congress to get something through the House, through
the Senate to the President's desk? And if so, what
level of priority do you think that would be.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
At this point?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
You know, I just came from a conversation with a
bunch of folks that are working in crypto, so bitcoin,
things like that, and so of course they're adjacent to
this conversation and the remarks one of them made to
me was, look, this is an existential threat. We know
what Communist China does with their existing technology and their
whole social credit system. Oh you said something bad about
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the Communist Chinese Party. Guess what. The gas pump won't
turn on for you because your social credit score isn't
high enough to allow you to pump gas into your
own car. This is magnified tenfold again. If the Communist
Chinese Party becomes the global leader in AI and they're
able to build backdoors, they're able to build all sorts
of different hidden controls in AI. If they become the
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global leader, then that becomes the default global standard or
how AI and AI products are built and created. So
if we want to have a chance of controlling AI
and being responsible with it, addressing some of the very
valid concerns that you brought up, what does it know
about us? How does it use that data? How does
it make decisions? We have to make sure that first
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and foremost we retain control over how it develops and
how those safeguards are put in place, and that only
happens if it stays here. If it goes to China,
we can't regulate it. We have to get what China
makes as the global standard if we see our position,
and so that's the impetus behind this letter. I think
that is the conversation where you have that in Washington, DC,
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in a bipartisan fashion, we can start to move the
ball forward and make sure that again we protect our
homeland by maintaining our position as the global leader in
this new and emerging technology called AI.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Representative Gabe Evans eighth Congressional District joining us back in
his home state for the time being. In news that
was breaking over these last several days with the deadline
for ballot petitions Gabe, I want to pass this along
Aaron Lee to protect kids Colorado Jennifer say xxxy Athletics,
two leaders at the forefront of these issues and protecting
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our kids. All three ballot measures look like they're going
to have enough signatures.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
To make it on the November ballot.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And this includes Proposal one oh eight, the Children Are
Not for Sale Act that has to do with child
sex trafficking, one oh nine, the Protect Women and Girls Act,
which prevent biological males from entering their sports and spaces,
basically reinforcing Title nine for biological women. And then finally
Proposal one ten, which would be to protect children from
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irreversible sex change operate here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I have to believe that this would have overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Support from a majority of Colorado's It might help drive
conservatives to the polls, which would only benefit I would
think you against a Democrat opponent and Representative Evans. You
and I have been talking about this going back to
I think it was like mid December, so like two
months ago, when you favored one bill over another. You
drew some heat and criticism for that. I believe it's
being used against you in the primary campaign that somehow
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lost in the sauce here is you're not opposed to
transgender mutilation surgeries for kids? Can you just clarify that
for our listeners, for the voters out there, where you
stay on each of these three ballot initiatives, how you
plan to vote on them.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I endorsed all three of those ballot initiatives. I signed
all three of those petitions, and I actually put together
a video for Protect Kids Colorado highlighting why these are good,
well thought out, well written policies that anybody should be
able to get behind that's interested in protecting our kids
from all of the harms that you just rattled off
from one hundred percent of pose to transgendering, our transgendering miners.
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We have to protect girls' sports and girls' locker rooms.
We have to protect our kids from being human trafficked.
We saw the news that broke I don't know, maybe
a week ago now, that human trafficking in Colorado and
the Denver metro area is up like triple quadruple digits
over the last several years, and that's through weeks soft
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on prime laws and these ballot initiatives take care of
those things. They do it in an effective and a
responsible manner. It's the manner that I voted for in
Washington DC. As you mentioned, there were two bills in
Washington DC. One I didn't think was effective and actually
jeopardized people's legitimate ability to be able to access medical
care for their kids. Remember the doctors that can prescribe
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gender altering hormones. Those are also the doctors that treat
type one diabetes for kids. Those are the doctors that
treat thyroids for kids. And so I didn't want to
put good doctors that are being coerced by a hospital
system like Denver Health or Children's Hospital. I didn't want
to be able to make low hospital administrators, make doctors
the fall guy, and then the hospital just goes back
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and keeps trying to turn out transgender operation for kids.
I wanted to defund the whole mess so that hospital administrators,
the hospital themselves, the insurance companies that are doing these
things oftentimes coercing conservative doctors. And I know that conservative
because I talk to them, I meet with them. That
the entire woke system is defunded from the ground up,
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and then of course that prevents kids from being transgendered
in the first place, if there's no money to actually
do it. That is the approach that has actually shut
down transgender procedures on kids at Denver Health and at
Children's Hospital, because when there's no money for it, the
hospitals aren't going to do it. That's what the Trump
administration did last month. That's the pathway that I support
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in doing this. And as you mentioned, I also support
those three vallid initiatives, have signed them, endorse them, and
that did a video saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Congressman Evans joining us on the three ballot initiatives that
look like they're going to make the ballot.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There'll be spoiled.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Signatures, but there will in excess of the minimum number
needed around one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Thousand for each one of these.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And what this shows me, Congressman Evans, is there is
energy on our side for this, largely driven by conservatives,
but not exclusively so, as we've seen with the likes
of Martina Navratalovo, who I believe makes her home here
in Colorado at least one of them in veil, and
then also JK Rowling, a second wave feminist, has come
out in support of protecting girls and women's sports and spaces.
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Do you think this has the energy behind it in
a narrowly divided district like your own to possibly be
a determining factor? And who comes out to the polls,
who's motivated and energized to do so?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And do you think that's a good thing for your campaign?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So, you know, as a police officer for ten years,
I got to talk to a lot of people from
a very broad spot of society. And one of the
things that I always say is, eighty percent a people
still agree on eighty percent of the stuff eighty percent
of the time. This is one of those eighty percent issues.
It's just basic common sense that boys shouldn't go into girls'
locker rooms. It's just basic common sense that a kid
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that's not even old enough to make legal decisions for
themselves shouldn't be able to be forced or coerced or
or put into a situation where they're going to cause
irreparable damage to themselves for the rest of their life.
When I was a cop, if I pulled over a kid,
you know, with the driver's license sixteen or seventeen years old,
and wrote them a ticket, that kid couldn't even appear
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in court without a parent guardian present because they're a miner.
They don't legally at this point, have the ability to
make a decision in this case around a simple speeding
ticket or a red light ticket. Why are we going
to put kids in a situation when they're miners where
they're having life altering consequences. And so again, I think
these petitions are well written. They do a good job
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of protecting kids without having negative, unintended consequences that's going
to hurt, you know, as we just talked about kids
that need access to a diabetes doctor, or a kid
that has thyroid problems and legitimately needs insulin or a
growth hormononner some of the other different things that these
up these doctors. That's what they spend most of their
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time doing. So I think these are good initiatives. I
think they're common sense initiatives that have the support of
a vast swath of society, and I'm glad that it
looks like they're going to be able to make the
ballot and give Coloradens the opportunity to vote for well
thought out legislation that protects our kids.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Finally, Congressman Evans, I know you've got your eyes on
the federal level, what benefits those voters in your district
in the eighth But I can't help but think that
you've noticed what's happened here at the General Assembly once
again where you used to reside.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
In the same week, we had.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Representative Scott Bottom's offer up a bill that would have
increased from felony two to felony one charges against those
who engage in child sex ticking to mandate a life
sentence without parole, the most severe penalty possible. But the
ACLU sent an attorney to testify and say there might
be extenuating circumstances as to why one might enter the
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field of child sex trafficking. And then on the other hand,
you had extremist Democrats in the General Assembly game present
a decriminalization of prostitution bill, which of course would open
the floodgates to child sex trafficking. The former bill that
I mentioned gets voted down in committee, the other one
still pending here. But what does that tell you about
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where the state of Colorado is from a leadership standpoint?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
In one part party rule?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I mean, I think the voters and the citizens of
Colorado can answer that question. For themselves. Every day we
talked about the roads. Our roads are crumbling. Why because
rather than fixing the roads, Democrats down at the state
capitol in Colorado are trying to figure out how not
only to legalize prostitution. They've had hearings this week around
banning rat tracks, like you know, for rats, the things
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that carry bubonic plague that killed millions of human beings.
Democrats in Colorado want to take away your ability to
be able to keep your house, your hospital, or your
store or anything that. They don't think you should be
able to go out and buy certain types of rat traps.
They're literally like the party that's pro bubonic plague now,
and so that it just shows how out of touch
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they are in Colorado, and the Democrats in Colorado are,
and the citizens, the residents of this state are paying
the price. We're number two in the nation worst for crime.
We're bleeding private sector jobs, we're bleeding good paying jobs.
Our economy is a bottom ten economy in the state
of Colorado right now. You just go down the list
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about all of the things that are happening to my
native state to so many people's chosen place of residence,
and it's happening because the single party rule in the
state of Colorado, by the far left, by the Democrats,
is tearing apart and giving horrible results in every sector
of the economy or public safety that you look at.
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As we've talked about human trafficking going up, a feentmol
overdose death rates going up, crime rates, it's been disastrous
for the state of Colorado. We need to reverse this.
We need to get common sense folks back in charge
that are going to do things like focus on fixing
our roads, keeping our kids safe, keeping boys at a girls'
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locker rooms, and not go down these just ludicrous pathways
that the Democrats are taking us.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
If you had state Democrats supporting bubonic plague on your
bingo car, congratulations, you're a winner. Representative Gabe Evans joining us.
You can follow him on ex at Rep. Gabe Evans
representing the eighth Congressional District and doing great work in
Congress on behalf of not only the people the eighth District,
but throughout the state of Colorado. Gabe always great, catching
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up with you. Safe travels out there. We'll talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
All He's going to be on with you.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
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Speaker 1 (23:20):
The first gold medal for the United States in forty
six years, and you delivered it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Can you just describe the emotions of this moment right now?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
This is all this is all.
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About our country right now.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
I love the USA, I love my teammates.
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It's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
The US or hockey brotherhood is so strong, and we
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the Americans todays, Bro, this was.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Such an incredible game to grind out.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
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Through it just looking at you right now.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Can you just talk about how difficult this gold medal
was to win.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Unbelievable game by Helli Buck, he was our best player tonight,
by mile, Unbelievable game, unreal game by its That's just
a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there. That's
a great Canadian team.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But we're USA. We're so proud to be Americans. Tonight
was all for the country.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
What does this gold medal mean to USA Hockey?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
It's everything.
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Like I said, the.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
USA Hockey brotherhood means so much. Look at these guys
where it's such a team.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Depending over two weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're such a team.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong, and we're so
proud to.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Win for our country.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Jack, the gold medals coming home and you're about to
watch the American flag go up to the raptors and
hear the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
How many times did you dream that up?
Speaker 8 (24:35):
You know, I can't even believe this. I mean, it's
such an unbelievable game. USA Canada. That's such a good game.
They have so many great players, were a great team.
That's exactly how we.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Wanted to go.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
We wanted to go through Canada and beat them, and
they couldn't win either way tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But that's not unbelievable win for the Americans.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Guys, license Jack, go and join an unbelievable win in
the first gold medal, as you heard for USA men's
hockey in forty six years since the Miracle on Ice.
I am decked out in my Star Spangled sweatshirt, USA hat,
and I've got to mention this with the Detroit connection,
Shannon Scott yours truly, Ryan Schuling, the four men on
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the ice and that gold medal scoring goals tallied Dylan Larkin, Waterford,
Zach Warinsky, gross point, Jack Hughes, Plymouth, Canton, Connor Hellibuk,
the goaltender from Commerce, Michigan, michiganers all over the ice
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when the United States strikes gold and joining us in studio,
as fate would have it, Chris Rourke, whose son plays
college hockey for East Texas, is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
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Speaker 2 (25:46):
Texas state? It was San Marcos, okay, Yeah, And as
a goaltender.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Is a goaltender and his name Sean Rourke, Sean Roarke yep.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
In fact, he had an amazing overtime game where they
were screaming his name, but I digress, go.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Ahead and shout that out. But for Connor Hellibook, I
mean there is no gold medal without him. This was
simply a spectacular performance for the ages. Forty one saves
on forty two shots, a save percentage of nine to
seventy six.
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That's amazing, incredible.
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And then some of these were like they did the
overhead shot of the save and he sprawled out with this.
Oh my god, I know it was just like there
was some kind of divine intervention. Chris, did you watch
this game live? Because it was six am?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
We did not.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I did not walk to watch it live. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, you know the thing is everybody focuses on, you know,
the guy who shoots the winning goal, and deservedly so.
But Connor Hellibuk, I mean, kept them in the game
that third period. It was unbelievable. He's known for his
positioning is consistency, staying calm under pressure, and that was
a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Forty two shots on goal, of which he saved forty one.
The Americans countered with just twenty eight shots on goal,
and they were dominated for most of the second and
third periods. They led after one to one nothing. Canada
tied it in the second and I'm actually sleeping and
my sister Lizzy messages me, are you watching the hockey?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm like, oh, dang it, and I turn it on
just in time.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
A third period tied at one and I'm watching you.
Note I used to call hockey for the Toledo Walleye.
Ehl you know this is one of my bread and
butter sports growing up in Michigan and the dominance of
Canada with the four checking and the puck possession, and
the United States couldn't really muster anything in the offensive end.
They couldn't maintain possession of the puck through the neutral zone.
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They couldn't get things set up. They had a four
minute double minor because of a high stick that caught
Jack Hughes up high and knocked out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Was it tea a couple or three teeth?
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Three teeth?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
See, I think in this note, you know, you see
some of these hip hop artists and so forth have
the gold teeth. There's any guy where gold teeth fits
as a replacement. It's Jack Hughes who's in this moment.
But survival the US hangs on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't mean to date you in terms of age,
but I barely remember the miracle on ice.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Happening in real time. You and I were texting about this.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So, yeah, I'm a little older than Ryan, just a
tad almost ten years and so I remember watching the
Olympics Lake Placid nineteen eighty Chuck Mangione's theme song coming
on and then showing, you know, the Olympic village, and
that game, the Miracle on Ice.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I mean I tear up thinking about it. I know
it was a different time in our country.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You know, we had a different administration, Ronald Reagan in
nineteen eighty coming in and.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
The patriotism that existed. I get a little concerned.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Ryan.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
This was an amazing win for USA, and yet you
have the Huffington Post.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Over the weekend talking about how you can hate America
and love America at the same time, and how unfortunate
this is a unifying moment and our country is deeply divided.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
This game was an amazing win. I think we should
be celebrating it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know, going back to the game itself and the goalie,
this was a high scoring game. The forty one saves,
you're talking about that he had Normally an Olympic game,
it's twenty five to thirty five. This was an amazing game.
These men should be celebrated. Connor Helli Buck plays for
the Winnipeg Jets. That must have been a difficult thing
to play against, you know, his home teams. So there's
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just so many things to celebrate, and it was just
an amazing game.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
One of the more delicious postsun X also the Toronto
Maple Leafs. You know, the signature team of English Canada
puts up a congratulatory post for Austin Matthews, their star
forward for the Maple Leafs. Right, he's an American and
he just won gold and just had to be tough
for them.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
You know, you're talking about the Michigan connection too in
the women's game. The woman that didn't, the woman.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That Megan Keller.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, she's also oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're really proud
right now. You know, people think Colorado is known for hockey.
They are, we are, but hockey came to Colorado relatively late.
When you think about it, you know, it's really a
Northeast dominated sport in the northeast part of the country.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, in the movie Miracle, which I'm sure you've seen
starring Kurt Russell, it was two factions. It was the
Upper Midwest and most notably the form of Minnesota who
heard Brooks coach.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's who Kurt Russell portrays the coach.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then like you said that, the New England, Northeastern
Boston College, Boston U, the bean Pot Tournament and those
guys it was just like a civil war on the
team before they were even constructed and got on the
ice together. To Chris's point on Connor, hellibuck. You know,
typically a good, very good save percentage would be nine
hundred in this case. If that were the case, if
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Connor was just average, he would have given up four goals, right,
and Canada would have walked away with the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
He was amazing, you know. And talking about the Northeast
he played for you, umss Lowell, That's which is an
amazing school as far as hockey goes.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yep, that's where you want to go.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
USA.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
They win it two to one in overtime, just like
the women in hockey, and just like the women, they
defeated Canada to do it. Just the third gold medal
ever for the United States in men's hockey nineteen sixty.
That was a team where Herb Brooks was the last
player cut, and that motivated and fueled him twenty years
later as the head coach of US men's hockey to
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win in nineteen eighty against the Soviet Union Red Army team,
and forty six years later, finally the Americans clinch gold
in men's hockey in twenty twenty six. Wow, a timeout
will come back. We'll wrap up this first hour. Chris
rarc is here early.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
She's raring to go.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
We got a lot coming up during the seven o'clock hours,
so stick and stay for that, and we'll be right
back after this.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Our chips for lowing as the playoffs game. Thank our
chips for that's to play this game, and all the
support back home.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But Jack Hughes saying all the right things after scoring
the golden goal in overtime for the US men's hockey
team against Canada, first gold medal in forty six years,
Thanking the troops for allowing us to play in this game,
he said. And Pete Hegseith, Secretary of War, posted that
on X saying this means more than most folks realize. Perspective, appreciation, patriotism,
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that's all our troops ask for, means everything.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Thank you USA Hockey. Chris.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I found myself way more emotional than I thought I
would be in responding to this gold medal win because
I've been watching US hockey over the years. They came
very close in twenty ten in Vancouver, Sidney Crosby scores
the game winning goal for Canada. There was gutting and
that's about as close as they've gotten, and here it
is right out there. It could have gone either way.
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Like they said, three on three it's crazy and hockey
as you know, it's so much wide open ice.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There incredible well three on three it's breath taking.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But you kind of touched on this heading into the break, Chris,
about how something like this can bring a country together
like we saw in nineteen eighty, And it's not that
we were divided, but we were so down back then.
As I recall, it's a different atmosphere now. Does this
bring us together at all? Does this last at all?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
In your mind?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I'm not sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I was texting with my son and he said he
talked about how much this game meant to him, and
I was thrilled that he was feeling that Because I
don't know if it's because of my age, or because
everything we are seeing going on in the country right now,
or because nineteen eighty meant so much to me.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I am concerned that we are so deeply divided. I
am concerned that.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We can't look past some of the things that we
are divided over to celebrate this victory.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Nineteen eighty was also different because we were taking on the.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Red Soviet Union and there was a there was a
huge you know, patriotism surrounding that. And this is Canada,
of course, you know with the tariffs, we've had issues
with Canada.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
They're not really fond of us right now again, taking
the moment to celebrate this, celebrate these young players, well
not so young players, I suppose, and really see the moment,
you and me.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They're in their thirties, Chris, they're young. Even I'm old
enough to be their dad. You're young too, right, well,
I look young.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We have this fight for listeners, We have this fight,
quite a bit a fight anyway.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun just these last
twenty four hours, and really the game started about twenty
four hours ago. Here we are and just in enjoying
the ride and finishing what I thought was a really
entertaining Olympic Games, despite the woke messaging that we saw
from some We'll take your calls.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Shannon's on the phone right now.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Three zero three seven to one three eight two five
five text five seven seven three nine. President Trump called
in to the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We'll have that for you. Thanks to Cash Ptell, I
had to edit out an f bomb. So I got
that done.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
We'll come back with that start things off an hour
two on that note, and just a final note as well.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
The Red Wings Avalanche connection here.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I know a lot of you are going to be upset,
but Nathan McKinnon cal mccarr two great players for the Avalanche.
Well they played for Team Canada. Yeah, Dylan Larkin. Detroit
Red Wings, as I just mentioned, played fourteen USA along
with these other Michiganders. And Ken Call, legendary radio play
by play voice for the Detroit Red Wings a mentor
of mine. And you think about this, going back to
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nineteen sixty two, So Detroit is an original six franchise. Yes,
along with the Rangers, the Bruins, the Blackhawks, the Canadians,
the Maple Leafs, you got the Red Wings.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, so back then, that's what it was. Bruce Martin,
still alive.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
At age ninety six, was the play by play announcer
on radio for the Red Wings from nineteen sixty two
to nineteen ninety five, taking over for him then Ken Call,
who had been the voice of the University of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He's been there ever since.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Think about that two play by play announcers for the
Red Wings since nineteen sixty two, sixty.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Four years ago.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
He'll join us at eight thirty, so you want to
look forward to that, and he'll talk about USA men's hockey,
his experience Kenkel working with the University of Michigan obviously
the Red Wings and Dylan Larkin who graduated from the
University of Michigan. And I got a message from my
buddy Mark, He's like, any bad feelings for MSU.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
What am I going to say?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
We're Americans here and even Spartan Mareens unite for that in.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This cause under the banner of the great State of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, and we're not even going to talk about the
Colorado Michigan divide in the NHL that you and I
have talked about.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
No, No, I just did I talk about McKennon and mccarr.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Are you listening?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But I'm sitting right here in Canada, and I want
to know who people were rooting for up They got
to be rooting for America, even against the Avalanche players
if you're an Avalanche.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Fan, right.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And I saw Steven L. Miller, one of our good
friends who comes on this radio show a lot. He's
the Versus Media podcast host big Avalanche fan resides here
in Colorado, and he posted on it a photo of
Dylan Larkin going, never thought I'd root for a red
wing but he did.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yeah, maybe that divide is finally over.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, No, it's gonna gotta keep that going. That's what
makes it fun.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
No, that is not fun.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well, Chris Rock's fun. She's here Colorado, inside out PBS twelve.
It's where you can find her on the television and
here on the radio every Monday with our recap and
that'll start in earnest. We come back after this on
Ryan Shielding Live
KRFX HD two Denver KHW, Denver. This is six thirty
kout Denver's talk station, Niheart Radio station.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Guaranteed Human joining us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
He's the congressman in the eighth Congressional district for Colorado,
and he's driving around the outer reaches of his district.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It sounds like right now.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
With some sketchy cell phone service. So we'll see if
we can get this conversation in. Representative Gabe Evans, our guests, Congressman,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
As always, always good to be on with you now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Congressman, I was reliably told, I believe it was Pete
Budajet's Secretary of Transportation that said all this money that
was invested in the Infrastructure Bill was going to give
us broadband access to the Internet. They're going to be
charging stations everywhere. I have to assume that cell phone
coverage would be pristine. That has not been the case
on any of those fronts. What are your observations along
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those lines in the district you represent.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I mean, I'll add to that list of things
that they've had to turn the power off here in
the state of Colorado. Four i'ms in the last three
months now, three times up north, once down south, where
we literally can't even keep the electric grid running and
the lights on when the wind blows. We know our
roadways in Colorado are crumbling, depending on urban versus rural
and which analysis you use, fourth to eighth worst roadways
(01:18):
in the nation. And so we have to be able
to invest in infrastructure, whether that's broadband, whether that's keeping
the lights on, whether that's our roadways and our infrastructure,
our pipeline, so many other things that have just been
horrifyingly neglected by the Democrats as they pursue this all
out ideological shift towards their rainbow and Unicorn's vision for
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the economy.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now, you must have been pressent or had an eye
on the prize here as it comes to AI and
joining forces with Congressman Nick Langworthy of New York sending
a letter to Howard Lutnik, the Secretary of Commerce, talking
about artificial intelligence and what would follow after as you
send this letter is a big move here in Colorado,
(02:02):
and it's not a good one. Pallanteer, one of the
largest employers in the state, moves out of Denver, moves
down to Miami, Florida, and in large part it's because
of this so called consumer Protections for Artificial Intelligence bill
that was sponsored by some radical leftists here in the
General Assembly where you used to reside, and they come
(02:23):
down to this term algorithmic discrimination. Can you walk us
through that term a little bit, what it means and
why it's so important to the left.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean I was in the state legislature, as
you noted, when this bill was being debated. What democrats
in this particular area are scared of is AI. And
they're afraid that AI is going to discriminate against all
of the different artificial divisions that democrats love to force
into our society. They're afraid that AI might misgender someone
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or do some other sort of action like that, and
so they've passed this incredibly onerous regulatory framework here in
the United States. Huson not in the United States and Colorado.
That's just incredibly damaging to be able to grow and
develop and innovate something like AI, which like it or not,
AI is here. The only question is are we going
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to maintain our position of global leadership in the AI
space as the United States and as areas like Colorado
that should be leaders in AI or are we going
to strangle ourselves with red tape over a poorly thought
out laws like this one that's going to drive jobs,
drive creation and development out of Colorado, out of the
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United States and send it into the arms of communist China.
If you're nervous about AI, you need to be terrified
about communist China becoming the global leader in AI because
it was driven out of places like Colorado as a
result of Colorado's AI law.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
There were many on the left congressmen who were celebrating
the exodus a pollunteer for some reason.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But I kind of ponder.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That with there's nothing to replace it. And further that point,
what you're talking about right there, because this law is
so onerous and a disincentive for businesses to come here
set up shop in Colorado, and not only will prevent
other businesses from relocating here with the hopes of maybe
doing the research and development for AI, but there may
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be other companies that because of this ridiculous law, And
I don't even know what the endgame is for it.
As it comes to this kind of Orwellian term algorithmic discrimination,
it's a barrier to entry it's an incentive to leave,
and I don't think it stops with Palenteer.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
What say you you look now further than the Colorado
Department of Labor's statistics. We know what the left loves
to do. They like to blame Trump for everything. But
if you go look at the Colorado Department of Labor
statistics from February twenty twenty four to February twenty twenty five,
So this is pre Trump, the last year before Trump
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took office and came back in in his second term.
The state of Colorado lost fourteen thousand, seven hundred private
sector jobs. In that same time period Feb twenty four
to Feb twenty five, the state added fifteen thousand, two
hundred government jobs. So we are driving private sector job jobs,
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we're driving innovators, we're driving job creators out of the
state of Colorado, and we're replacing them with bureaucrats and
more regulatory burden, more governments. That, as you said, just
creates even further barriers to entry and makes it more
difficult for any company, whether it's volunteer, whether it's AI,
whether it's so many other companies to either stay in
business in Colorado or choose Colorado to relocate too, when
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we're literally driving out private sector jobs and replacing them
with government bureaucrats that regulate innovators and job creators into
the ground and ultimately out of the state.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Congressman Gave Evans eighth District here in Colorado right out
in front of this issue on artificial intelligence and where
it goes from here, Joining with fellow Congressman Nick Langworthy
New York State, they're facing similar restrictions and no surprise
there in a blue state like New York with their
Raise Act, and it's kind of like the wild West
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right now. You point this out and the press release, Gabe,
that there's kind of like patchwork state regulations policies coming through.
It makes it very confusing, I think on the whole
when we don't have a unified federal policy on the issue.
So what was the motivation between behind writing this letter
to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik specifically and where do you
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hope it goes from here?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Again, it ties directly back to my background that you
and I always talk about. I spent twelve years in
the US Army to include a combat deployment overseas and
other ten years in law enforcement, so public safety and
national security is incredibly important to me. And making sure
that the United States is the global leader in things
like AI that has a direct nexus to our ability
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to protect our homeland, to be able to counter emerge
threats around the country, and again to be able to
protect our economy by making sure that we are the
global leaders in things like AI. And so sitting on
the Homeland Security Committee in Washington, d C. Which obviously
has jurisdiction over homeland security and protecting the homeland, also
sitting on the Energy and Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction
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over about eighty percent of the United States economy. And
then coming from a blue state and my colleague that
you've mentioned, coming from New York, we see these challenges.
We understand how critically important it is that we have
just a common sensetional rules of the road policy. So
all that companies that want to develop, want to innovate,
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want to make sure that the United States remains the
global leader in AI instead of ceding that ground to
the Communist Party over in China. They have to have
just basic rules of the road in order to be
able to innovate, to be able to create jobs and
be able to develop these technolologies as these technologies grow
to fruition. What Colorado, what New York, what other states
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are doing is laws that mean that a company has
to comply with very onerous laws in Colorado, and then
a different standard in New York, right, and then a
different standard in California. And this patchwork is incredibly damaging
to being able to again make sure that the United
States is the global leader in this technology if you
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have to meet fifty different standards.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Congressman Evans joining us talking about this very crucial issue
of artificial intelligence and the damaging blow to the Colorado
economy and jobs with the departure of Pollenteer to South Florida,
a red state where it would make sense it's more
business friendly, but that a uniform federal standard would seem
(08:50):
to require an Act of Congress. I understand gave that
there are concerns about AI and the downside to it
the collection of data. What does it know about us?
How does follow us in our everyday lives? How can
it take information from us? And what does it use
that information for? But like you said, it's either leader
get out of the way on this and have Communists
China just bulldoze us on it and win in the marketplace,
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which we certainly do not want. Do you get the
feeling that there might be some bipartisan support here and
act of Congress to get something through the House, through
the Senate to the President's desk? And if so, what
level of priority do you think that would be.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
At this point?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
You know, I just came from a conversation with a
bunch of folks that are working in crypto, so bitcoin,
things like that, and so of course they're adjacent to
this conversation and the remarks one of them made to
me was, look, this is an existential threat. We know
what Communist China does with their existing technology and their
whole social credit system. Oh you said something bad about
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the Communist Chinese Party. Guess what. The gas pump won't
turn on for you because your social credit score isn't
high enough to allow you to pump gas into your
own car. This is magnified tenfold again. If the Communist
Chinese Party becomes the global leader in AI and they're
able to build backdoors, they're able to build all sorts
of different hidden controls in AI. If they become the
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global leader, then that becomes the default global standard or
how AI and AI products are built and created. So
if we want to have a chance of controlling AI
and being responsible with it, addressing some of the very
valid concerns that you brought up, what does it know
about us? How does it use that data? How does
it make decisions? We have to make sure that first
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and foremost we retain control over how it develops and
how those safeguards are put in place, and that only
happens if it stays here. If it goes to China,
we can't regulate it. We have to get what China
makes as the global standard if we see our position,
and so that's the impetus behind this letter. I think
that is the conversation where you have that in Washington, DC,
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in a bipartisan fashion, we can start to move the
ball forward and make sure that again we protect our
homeland by maintaining our position as the global leader in
this new and emerging technology called AI.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Representative Gabe Evans eighth Congressional District joining us back in
his home state for the time being. In news that
was breaking over these last several days with the deadline
for ballot petitions Gabe, I want to pass this along
Aaron Lee to protect kids Colorado Jennifer say xxxy Athletics,
two leaders at the forefront of these issues and protecting
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our kids. All three ballot measures look like they're going
to have enough signatures.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
To make it on the November ballot.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And this includes Proposal one oh eight, the Children Are
Not for Sale Act that has to do with child
sex trafficking, one oh nine, the Protect Women and Girls Act,
which prevent biological males from entering their sports and spaces,
basically reinforcing Title nine for biological women. And then finally
Proposal one ten, which would be to protect children from
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irreversible sex change operate here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I have to believe that this would have overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Support from a majority of Colorado's It might help drive
conservatives to the polls, which would only benefit I would
think you against a Democrat opponent and Representative Evans. You
and I have been talking about this going back to
I think it was like mid December, so like two
months ago, when you favored one bill over another. You
drew some heat and criticism for that. I believe it's
being used against you in the primary campaign that somehow
(12:27):
lost in the sauce here is you're not opposed to
transgender mutilation surgeries for kids? Can you just clarify that
for our listeners, for the voters out there, where you
stay on each of these three ballot initiatives, how you
plan to vote on them.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I endorsed all three of those ballot initiatives. I signed
all three of those petitions, and I actually put together
a video for Protect Kids Colorado highlighting why these are good,
well thought out, well written policies that anybody should be
able to get behind that's interested in protecting our kids
from all of the harms that you just rattled off
from one hundred percent of pose to transgendering, our transgendering miners.
(13:04):
We have to protect girls' sports and girls' locker rooms.
We have to protect our kids from being human trafficked.
We saw the news that broke I don't know, maybe
a week ago now, that human trafficking in Colorado and
the Denver metro area is up like triple quadruple digits
over the last several years, and that's through weeks soft
(13:25):
on prime laws and these ballot initiatives take care of
those things. They do it in an effective and a
responsible manner. It's the manner that I voted for in
Washington DC. As you mentioned, there were two bills in
Washington DC. One I didn't think was effective and actually
jeopardized people's legitimate ability to be able to access medical
care for their kids. Remember the doctors that can prescribe
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gender altering hormones. Those are also the doctors that treat
type one diabetes for kids. Those are the doctors that
treat thyroids for kids. And so I didn't want to
put good doctors that are being coerced by a hospital
system like Denver Health or Children's Hospital. I didn't want
to be able to make low hospital administrators, make doctors
the fall guy, and then the hospital just goes back
(14:10):
and keeps trying to turn out transgender operation for kids.
I wanted to defund the whole mess so that hospital administrators,
the hospital themselves, the insurance companies that are doing these
things oftentimes coercing conservative doctors. And I know that conservative
because I talk to them, I meet with them. That
the entire woke system is defunded from the ground up,
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and then of course that prevents kids from being transgendered
in the first place, if there's no money to actually
do it. That is the approach that has actually shut
down transgender procedures on kids at Denver Health and at
Children's Hospital, because when there's no money for it, the
hospitals aren't going to do it. That's what the Trump
administration did last month. That's the pathway that I support
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in doing this. And as you mentioned, I also support
those three vallid initiatives, have signed them, endorse them, and
that did a video saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Congressman Evans joining us on the three ballot initiatives that
look like they're going to make the ballot.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There'll be spoiled.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Signatures, but there will in excess of the minimum number
needed around one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Thousand for each one of these.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And what this shows me, Congressman Evans, is there is
energy on our side for this, largely driven by conservatives,
but not exclusively so, as we've seen with the likes
of Martina Navratalovo, who I believe makes her home here
in Colorado at least one of them in veil, and
then also JK Rowling, a second wave feminist, has come
out in support of protecting girls and women's sports and spaces.
(15:34):
Do you think this has the energy behind it in
a narrowly divided district like your own to possibly be
a determining factor? And who comes out to the polls,
who's motivated and energized to do so?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And do you think that's a good thing for your campaign?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So, you know, as a police officer for ten years,
I got to talk to a lot of people from
a very broad spot of society. And one of the
things that I always say is, eighty percent a people
still agree on eighty percent of the stuff eighty percent
of the time. This is one of those eighty percent issues.
It's just basic common sense that boys shouldn't go into girls'
locker rooms. It's just basic common sense that a kid
(16:13):
that's not even old enough to make legal decisions for
themselves shouldn't be able to be forced or coerced or
or put into a situation where they're going to cause
irreparable damage to themselves for the rest of their life.
When I was a cop, if I pulled over a kid,
you know, with the driver's license sixteen or seventeen years old,
and wrote them a ticket, that kid couldn't even appear
(16:34):
in court without a parent guardian present because they're a miner.
They don't legally at this point, have the ability to
make a decision in this case around a simple speeding
ticket or a red light ticket. Why are we going
to put kids in a situation when they're miners where
they're having life altering consequences. And so again, I think
these petitions are well written. They do a good job
(16:57):
of protecting kids without having negative, unintended consequences that's going
to hurt, you know, as we just talked about kids
that need access to a diabetes doctor, or a kid
that has thyroid problems and legitimately needs insulin or a
growth hormononner some of the other different things that these
up these doctors. That's what they spend most of their
(17:18):
time doing. So I think these are good initiatives. I
think they're common sense initiatives that have the support of
a vast swath of society, and I'm glad that it
looks like they're going to be able to make the
ballot and give Coloradens the opportunity to vote for well
thought out legislation that protects our kids.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Finally, Congressman Evans, I know you've got your eyes on
the federal level, what benefits those voters in your district
in the eighth But I can't help but think that
you've noticed what's happened here at the General Assembly once
again where you used to reside.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
In the same week, we had.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Representative Scott Bottom's offer up a bill that would have
increased from felony two to felony one charges against those
who engage in child sex ticking to mandate a life
sentence without parole, the most severe penalty possible. But the
ACLU sent an attorney to testify and say there might
be extenuating circumstances as to why one might enter the
(18:11):
field of child sex trafficking. And then on the other hand,
you had extremist Democrats in the General Assembly game present
a decriminalization of prostitution bill, which of course would open
the floodgates to child sex trafficking. The former bill that
I mentioned gets voted down in committee, the other one
still pending here. But what does that tell you about
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where the state of Colorado is from a leadership standpoint?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
In one part party rule?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I mean, I think the voters and the citizens of
Colorado can answer that question. For themselves. Every day we
talked about the roads. Our roads are crumbling. Why because
rather than fixing the roads, Democrats down at the state
capitol in Colorado are trying to figure out how not
only to legalize prostitution. They've had hearings this week around
banning rat tracks, like you know, for rats, the things
(19:01):
that carry bubonic plague that killed millions of human beings.
Democrats in Colorado want to take away your ability to
be able to keep your house, your hospital, or your
store or anything that. They don't think you should be
able to go out and buy certain types of rat traps.
They're literally like the party that's pro bubonic plague now,
and so that it just shows how out of touch
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they are in Colorado, and the Democrats in Colorado are,
and the citizens, the residents of this state are paying
the price. We're number two in the nation worst for crime.
We're bleeding private sector jobs, we're bleeding good paying jobs.
Our economy is a bottom ten economy in the state
of Colorado right now. You just go down the list
(19:44):
about all of the things that are happening to my
native state to so many people's chosen place of residence,
and it's happening because the single party rule in the
state of Colorado, by the far left, by the Democrats,
is tearing apart and giving horrible results in every sector
of the economy or public safety that you look at.
(20:04):
As we've talked about human trafficking going up, a feentmol
overdose death rates going up, crime rates, it's been disastrous
for the state of Colorado. We need to reverse this.
We need to get common sense folks back in charge
that are going to do things like focus on fixing
our roads, keeping our kids safe, keeping boys at a girls'
(20:26):
locker rooms, and not go down these just ludicrous pathways
that the Democrats are taking us.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
If you had state Democrats supporting bubonic plague on your
bingo car, congratulations, you're a winner. Representative Gabe Evans joining us.
You can follow him on ex at Rep. Gabe Evans
representing the eighth Congressional District and doing great work in
Congress on behalf of not only the people the eighth District,
but throughout the state of Colorado. Gabe always great, catching
(20:52):
up with you. Safe travels out there. We'll talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
All He's going to be on with you.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Congressman Gabe Evans your response to your reaction via text
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Speaker 5 (21:14):
Great moments are born from great opportunity, and that's what
you have here tonight. Boys, that's what you've earned here tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
One game. If we played them ten times, they might
win nine, but.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Not this game, not tonight. Tonight. We skate with them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Tonight, we stay with them, and we.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Shut them down because we can.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Tonight we are the greatest hockey team in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
When you're leaving the group.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Believing.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
In the United States, were blackets, Wrensky and kept chamber line.
There's Ben Beaby moving on to us practice long cattle,
but brok up behind and him and it's Clarnsky.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Now ten Q pus are not the pup not state
the humpers.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
W A couch of pups takes nay the in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Now the sas ticks.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
It's the nineteen ninety bar parts in the United States
takes the bar.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You can.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
In the United States wins the ball family here in
my mine love minute, thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Seconds, get you all the time.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
She's got loo.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okat sweet.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Now two ques with a game.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Tac cues with a golden goal.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
All Bo's the goal, he chatted with Catherine packed.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
The first gold medal for the United States in forty
six years, and you delivered it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Can you just describe the emotions of this moment right now?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
This is all this is all.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
About our country right now.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
I love the USA, I love my teammates.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
The US or hockey brotherhood is so strong, and we
had so much support next players. I'm so proud of
the Americans todays, Bro, this was.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Such an incredible game to grind out.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
I mean you're bleeding right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Through it just looking at you right now.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Can you just talk about how difficult this gold medal
was to win.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Unbelievable game by Helli Buck, he was our best player tonight,
by mile, Unbelievable game, unreal game by its That's just
a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there. That's
a great Canadian team.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But we're USA. We're so proud to be Americans. Tonight
was all for the country.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
What does this gold medal mean to USA Hockey?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
It's everything.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like I said, the.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
USA Hockey brotherhood means so much. Look at these guys
where it's such a team.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Depending over two weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're such a team.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong, and we're so
proud to.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Win for our country.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Jack, the gold medals coming home and you're about to
watch the American flag go up to the raptors and
hear the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
How many times did you dream that up?
Speaker 8 (24:35):
You know, I can't even believe this. I mean, it's
such an unbelievable game. USA Canada. That's such a good game.
They have so many great players, were a great team.
That's exactly how we.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Wanted to go.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
We wanted to go through Canada and beat them, and
they couldn't win either way tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But that's not unbelievable win for the Americans.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Guys, license Jack, go and join an unbelievable win in
the first gold medal, as you heard for USA men's
hockey in forty six years since the Miracle on Ice.
I am decked out in my Star Spangled sweatshirt, USA hat,
and I've got to mention this with the Detroit connection,
Shannon Scott yours truly, Ryan Schuling, the four men on
(25:16):
the ice and that gold medal scoring goals tallied Dylan Larkin, Waterford,
Zach Warinsky, gross point, Jack Hughes, Plymouth, Canton, Connor Hellibuk,
the goaltender from Commerce, Michigan, michiganers all over the ice
(25:36):
when the United States strikes gold and joining us in studio,
as fate would have it, Chris Rourke, whose son plays
college hockey for East Texas, is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
That right, Texas state?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Texas state? It was San Marcos, okay, Yeah, And as
a goaltender.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Is a goaltender and his name Sean Rourke, Sean Roarke yep.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
In fact, he had an amazing overtime game where they
were screaming his name, but I digress, go.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Ahead and shout that out. But for Connor Hellibook, I
mean there is no gold medal without him. This was
simply a spectacular performance for the ages. Forty one saves
on forty two shots, a save percentage of nine to
seventy six.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's amazing, incredible.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And then some of these were like they did the
overhead shot of the save and he sprawled out with this.
Oh my god, I know it was just like there
was some kind of divine intervention. Chris, did you watch
this game live? Because it was six am?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
We did not.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I did not walk to watch it live. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, you know the thing is everybody focuses on, you know,
the guy who shoots the winning goal, and deservedly so.
But Connor Hellibuk, I mean, kept them in the game
that third period. It was unbelievable. He's known for his
positioning is consistency, staying calm under pressure, and that was
a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Forty two shots on goal, of which he saved forty one.
The Americans countered with just twenty eight shots on goal,
and they were dominated for most of the second and
third periods. They led after one to one nothing. Canada
tied it in the second and I'm actually sleeping and
my sister Lizzy messages me, are you watching the hockey?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm like, oh, dang it, and I turn it on
just in time.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
A third period tied at one and I'm watching you.
Note I used to call hockey for the Toledo Walleye.
Ehl you know this is one of my bread and
butter sports growing up in Michigan and the dominance of
Canada with the four checking and the puck possession, and
the United States couldn't really muster anything in the offensive end.
They couldn't maintain possession of the puck through the neutral zone.
(27:37):
They couldn't get things set up. They had a four
minute double minor because of a high stick that caught
Jack Hughes up high and knocked out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Was it tea a couple or three teeth?
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Three teeth?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
See, I think in this note, you know, you see
some of these hip hop artists and so forth have
the gold teeth. There's any guy where gold teeth fits
as a replacement. It's Jack Hughes who's in this moment.
But survival the US hangs on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't mean to date you in terms of age,
but I barely remember the miracle on ice.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Happening in real time. You and I were texting about this.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So, yeah, I'm a little older than Ryan, just a
tad almost ten years and so I remember watching the
Olympics Lake Placid nineteen eighty Chuck Mangione's theme song coming
on and then showing, you know, the Olympic village, and
that game, the Miracle on Ice.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I mean I tear up thinking about it. I know
it was a different time in our country.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You know, we had a different administration, Ronald Reagan in
nineteen eighty coming in and.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
The patriotism that existed. I get a little concerned.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Ryan.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
This was an amazing win for USA, and yet you
have the Huffington Post.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Over the weekend talking about how you can hate America
and love America at the same time, and how unfortunate
this is a unifying moment and our country is deeply divided.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
This game was an amazing win. I think we should
be celebrating it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know, going back to the game itself and the goalie,
this was a high scoring game. The forty one saves,
you're talking about that he had Normally an Olympic game,
it's twenty five to thirty five. This was an amazing game.
These men should be celebrated. Connor Helli Buck plays for
the Winnipeg Jets. That must have been a difficult thing
to play against, you know, his home teams. So there's
(29:33):
just so many things to celebrate, and it was just
an amazing game.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
One of the more delicious postsun X also the Toronto
Maple Leafs. You know, the signature team of English Canada
puts up a congratulatory post for Austin Matthews, their star
forward for the Maple Leafs. Right, he's an American and
he just won gold and just had to be tough
for them.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
You know, you're talking about the Michigan connection too in
the women's game. The woman that didn't, the woman.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That Megan Keller.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, she's also oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're really proud
right now. You know, people think Colorado is known for hockey.
They are, we are, but hockey came to Colorado relatively late.
When you think about it, you know, it's really a
Northeast dominated sport in the northeast part of the country.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, in the movie Miracle, which I'm sure you've seen
starring Kurt Russell, it was two factions. It was the
Upper Midwest and most notably the form of Minnesota who
heard Brooks coach.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's who Kurt Russell portrays the coach.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then like you said that, the New England, Northeastern
Boston College, Boston U, the bean Pot Tournament and those
guys it was just like a civil war on the
team before they were even constructed and got on the
ice together. To Chris's point on Connor, hellibuck. You know,
typically a good, very good save percentage would be nine
hundred in this case. If that were the case, if
(30:51):
Connor was just average, he would have given up four goals, right,
and Canada would have walked away with the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
He was amazing, you know. And talking about the Northeast
he played for you, umss Lowell, That's which is an
amazing school as far as hockey goes.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yep, that's where you want to go.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
USA.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
They win it two to one in overtime, just like
the women in hockey, and just like the women, they
defeated Canada to do it. Just the third gold medal
ever for the United States in men's hockey nineteen sixty.
That was a team where Herb Brooks was the last
player cut, and that motivated and fueled him twenty years
later as the head coach of US men's hockey to
(31:30):
win in nineteen eighty against the Soviet Union Red Army team,
and forty six years later, finally the Americans clinch gold
in men's hockey in twenty twenty six. Wow, a timeout
will come back. We'll wrap up this first hour. Chris
rarc is here early.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
She's raring to go.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
We got a lot coming up during the seven o'clock hours,
so stick and stay for that, and we'll be right
back after this.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Our chips for lowing as the playoffs game. Thank our
chips for that's to play this game, and all the
support back home.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But Jack Hughes saying all the right things after scoring
the golden goal in overtime for the US men's hockey
team against Canada, first gold medal in forty six years,
Thanking the troops for allowing us to play in this game,
he said. And Pete Hegseith, Secretary of War, posted that
on X saying this means more than most folks realize. Perspective, appreciation, patriotism,
(32:28):
that's all our troops ask for, means everything.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Thank you USA Hockey. Chris.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I found myself way more emotional than I thought I
would be in responding to this gold medal win because
I've been watching US hockey over the years. They came
very close in twenty ten in Vancouver, Sidney Crosby scores
the game winning goal for Canada. There was gutting and
that's about as close as they've gotten, and here it
is right out there. It could have gone either way.
(32:54):
Like they said, three on three it's crazy and hockey
as you know, it's so much wide open ice.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There incredible well three on three it's breath taking.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But you kind of touched on this heading into the break, Chris,
about how something like this can bring a country together
like we saw in nineteen eighty, And it's not that
we were divided, but we were so down back then.
As I recall, it's a different atmosphere now. Does this
bring us together at all? Does this last at all?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
In your mind?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I'm not sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I was texting with my son and he said he
talked about how much this game meant to him, and
I was thrilled that he was feeling that Because I
don't know if it's because of my age, or because
everything we are seeing going on in the country right now,
or because nineteen eighty meant so much to me.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I am concerned that we are so deeply divided. I
am concerned that.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We can't look past some of the things that we
are divided over to celebrate this victory.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Nineteen eighty was also different because we were taking on the.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Red Soviet Union and there was a there was a
huge you know, patriotism surrounding that. And this is Canada,
of course, you know with the tariffs, we've had issues
with Canada.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
They're not really fond of us right now again, taking
the moment to celebrate this, celebrate these young players, well
not so young players, I suppose, and really see the moment,
you and me.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They're in their thirties, Chris, they're young. Even I'm old
enough to be their dad. You're young too, right, well,
I look young.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We have this fight for listeners, We have this fight,
quite a bit a fight anyway.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun just these last
twenty four hours, and really the game started about twenty
four hours ago. Here we are and just in enjoying
the ride and finishing what I thought was a really
entertaining Olympic Games, despite the woke messaging that we saw
from some We'll take your calls.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Shannon's on the phone right now.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Three zero three seven to one three eight two five
five text five seven seven three nine. President Trump called
in to the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We'll have that for you. Thanks to Cash Ptell, I
had to edit out an f bomb. So I got
that done.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
We'll come back with that start things off an hour
two on that note, and just a final note as well.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
The Red Wings Avalanche connection here.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I know a lot of you are going to be upset,
but Nathan McKinnon cal mccarr two great players for the Avalanche.
Well they played for Team Canada. Yeah, Dylan Larkin. Detroit
Red Wings, as I just mentioned, played fourteen USA along
with these other Michiganders. And Ken Call, legendary radio play
by play voice for the Detroit Red Wings a mentor
of mine. And you think about this, going back to
(35:30):
nineteen sixty two, So Detroit is an original six franchise. Yes,
along with the Rangers, the Bruins, the Blackhawks, the Canadians,
the Maple Leafs, you got the Red Wings.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, so back then, that's what it was. Bruce Martin,
still alive.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
At age ninety six, was the play by play announcer
on radio for the Red Wings from nineteen sixty two
to nineteen ninety five, taking over for him then Ken Call,
who had been the voice of the University of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He's been there ever since.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Think about that two play by play announcers for the
Red Wings since nineteen sixty two, sixty.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Four years ago.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
He'll join us at eight thirty, so you want to
look forward to that, and he'll talk about USA men's hockey,
his experience Kenkel working with the University of Michigan obviously
the Red Wings and Dylan Larkin who graduated from the
University of Michigan. And I got a message from my
buddy Mark, He's like, any bad feelings for MSU.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
What am I going to say?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
We're Americans here and even Spartan Mareens unite for that in.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This cause under the banner of the great State of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, and we're not even going to talk about the
Colorado Michigan divide in the NHL that you and I
have talked about.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
No, No, I just did I talk about McKennon and mccarr.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Are you listening?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But I'm sitting right here in Canada, and I want
to know who people were rooting for up They got
to be rooting for America, even against the Avalanche players
if you're an Avalanche.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Fan, right.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And I saw Steven L. Miller, one of our good
friends who comes on this radio show a lot. He's
the Versus Media podcast host big Avalanche fan resides here
in Colorado, and he posted on it a photo of
Dylan Larkin going, never thought I'd root for a red
wing but he did.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yeah, maybe that divide is finally over.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, No, it's gonna gotta keep that going. That's what
makes it fun.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
No, that is not fun.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well, Chris Rock's fun. She's here Colorado, inside out PBS twelve.
It's where you can find her on the television and
here on the radio every Monday with our recap and
that'll start in earnest. We come back after this on
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