January 8, 2026 • 34 mins
Ryan breaks down the fissure on the right in the radio and podcast sphere between those who have gone off the rails - Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens - and more sane voices like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. He explains why Owens has always been a grifting charlatan drawing WWE-style 'cheap heat,' and why Shapiro's 'north star' is correct when it comes to holding pundits with wacky takes accountable.
Rep. Jeff Crank (R, CO-5) joins Ryan with an update on his perspective in Congress, including the fatal shooting by an ICE agent of a former resident in his district - Renee Nicole Good - as well as the veto of Rep. Lauren Boebert's bipartisan co-sponsored bill (HR 131, Arkansas Valley Conduit Act) by President Trump, as well as Trump's decision to invade Venezuela and extract communist dictator Nicolas Maduro to be tried on narco-terrorism charges in the United States.
Also discussed, a controversial 'no' vote by colleague Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) on a Marjorie Taylor Greene-sponsored bill that would criminalize doctors performing gender reassignment surgeries on minors.
Rep. Jeff Crank (R, CO-5) joins Ryan with an update on his perspective in Congress, including the fatal shooting by an ICE agent of a former resident in his district - Renee Nicole Good - as well as the veto of Rep. Lauren Boebert's bipartisan co-sponsored bill (HR 131, Arkansas Valley Conduit Act) by President Trump, as well as Trump's decision to invade Venezuela and extract communist dictator Nicolas Maduro to be tried on narco-terrorism charges in the United States.
Also discussed, a controversial 'no' vote by colleague Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) on a Marjorie Taylor Greene-sponsored bill that would criminalize doctors performing gender reassignment surgeries on minors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Guaranteed Human all right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I mentioned this before the break, and I made a
promise to get to it, and I didn't. Then I
apologize for that. But here we are final our Ryan
schuling live. And that's a great thing about having four
hours instead.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Of two, because I can go ahead and put this
on the docket. Here start the nine am hour.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Your calls three zero three seven, one three eight two
five five anything that you've heard today. Barb Kirkmeyer in
our first hour drew a lot of texts that I
want to get to as well. She a candidate for
governor the senator in the General Assembly, one of three
participating candidates on the Republican side that will be participating
(00:47):
in the forum on Saturday in Greeley.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll be a part of that. Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Still a few tickets left at the Double Tree by
Hilton Greeley at Lincoln Park, sponsored by Wells Ranch. That's
Steve Wells one thirty pm to three thirty pm this Saturday.
Sheriff Steve Reams of Wild County will be mc ing
Mandy Connell of KOA and me, we will both be moderating,
and the three of us, Mandy, myself, Sheriff Raemes be
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meeting up immediately after this program in about an hour,
so I'm looking forward to that. Always a pleasure to
see the sheriff in person and to get to chat
with Mandy Connell as well, another one of my colleagues here.
I used to produce his program when he was on
in the two to four pm slot. He's back there now.
By the way, things coming full circle. Michael Brown reloaded,
(01:36):
so the first two hours every day of his program
that airs on KOA, which is going on right now,
the nine am hour, the ten am hour, you can
hear right here on six thirty KL from two to
four pm. Our repackaged reloaded by Dragon, so you can
stick with me for this nine o'clock hour at Listen
to Michael Brown later. But here is what he had
(01:58):
to say about katiev R Fox thirty one earlier this morning,
you just gave a horrible one sided point of view
on the ice shooting.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
In MSP.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You read a statement from the mother described the deceased
as loving a poet and her death is quote stupid
then swerved into polist want in an investigation completely and
totally one sided.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You realized she broke the law, don't you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
She was a criminal and the ICE agent was lawfully
engaged in self defense.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You utterly ignored the whole story.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm so disappointed in the editor of the decision to
present a one sided story. He lost a lot of
credibility today making Kurt read that story without any context whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Shame on you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love when Brownie said, he says it a lot,
and it's kind of one of his go two phrases.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh no, the situation, Michael Brown. Shame on you. But
he's right, He's right.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean you could present you know who this individual was, talking,
of course, about the woman thirty seven years of age,
Renana Coole Good, Colorado Springs native, who was shot and killed, yes,
by an Ice agent. Now there are extenuating circumstances, of course,
to what actually happened on the ground there.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We spoke about it at length with Weld.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
County Sheriff Steve Reams, who has experience in this realm
law enforcement. You have seconds to make a life or
death decision one way or the other, and that could
be the life or death of a perpetrator like Naanicle Good,
whose vehicle was obstructing ICE.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
She was instructing it out of the car. She refused
that order, and she floored it. She slammed on the
gas with an ICE.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Agent both to the side of the vehicle and in
front of the vehicle, and she clipped the ICE agent
in front of.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The vehicle on her way trying to flee the scene.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You don't have a right to flee the scene when
you've inserted yourself into a situation that has ratcheted up
and put ICE agents their lives in danger. You are
the problem. Nobody made Renaana cole Good take her vehicle,
put it in the middle of the street and obstruct ICE.
Nobody forced nanacle Good to slam on the accelerator and
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clip one of the agents on her way out when
she was simply instructed to.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Get out of her vehicle. Poops, that's all she needed
to do.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Any one of us in that situation, if you were
confronted by a law enforcement officer, show that person respect.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They might be wrong. They might be wrong. You'll have
your day in court.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You have a right to an attorney, You have a
right not to testify against yourself, to incriminate yourself. They
have to mirandize you. All of that. You have to
know your legal rights, and I'm fairly certain Renaina Cole
Good was smart enough to know her legal rights in
that situation. You don't have to escalate it. You should
not escalate it because you could end up DRT dead
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right there.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
As Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Would say, if you're given an order by a law
enforcement officer, you might not like it, you might not
agree with it, you might hate an ICE agent or
a sheriff of Well County. She's kidding, Steve, but you
gotta be an instruction given to you by an armed officer.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Don't be stupid, be smart.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So that's where we begin today with Michael Brown's comment
and then again by colleague Ross Kamenski over there.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I kept hearing and repeat.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This nonsense, this balderdash about there wasn't an Ice agent
in front of the vehicle. There was, observably so on
the video, an Ice agent in front of the vehicle
who got clipped on Renee Nicole.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Goods way out, that's happen.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
That happened, that's not disputable, can't be putting fake News
out there and Michael Brown not happy with what the
Fox thirty one did earlier today, So glad we got
to cover that. Your calls three zero three seven one,
three eight two five five. In your text at five
seven seven three nine coming into the top of the hour,
(06:00):
here had the question from this text, are just curious
what your beef is with Megan Kelly. It seems like
she has moved to the right and is not the
stay Megan Kelly from years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Anyway, Just curious on your thoughts. You're correct, you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Know from me when you go from her confronting Donald
Trump in the Republican debate in twenty sixteen about how
he talked about and treated women, and then after that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's like, you know, she was really angry, she had
blood coming out of her eyes, her mouth.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wherever, you're just like, oh my god, Donald Trump, wow,
or the horse face comments about Carly Fiorina or Ted
Cruz's wife.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
She's not Millennia.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Let's just put it that way, like, Okay, settle down, bro,
I get it, I get it. But no, from there,
Megan Kelly went from I don't know. I mean, she
was on Fox News. I thought she did a good job.
She was hired by NBC. She had the black face
incident there for which she was summarily fired. She started
out her own podcast network. It was successful. But now, yes,
(07:04):
she moved right. Yes she was a Trump supporter. Yes,
she appeared on the campaign trail in twenty twenty four
with the former president now forty seventh president.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But she has gone wacko along with Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I don't know why these two have followed Candas Owens,
of all people over the edge of the cliff. Candace Owens,
why I remember, going way back, ladies and gentlemen. She
would appear on the regular on Tucker Carlson's show. What
a platform that is. He would have the likes to look.
Victor Davis Hanson on there, and we prayed for him.
He's undergone cancer surgery and that he'll be okay. Vdh
(07:40):
is as smart of a guy as there is. You know,
professor at Hillsdale College. This guy knows American history inside
and out. And even he has come out and be like,
I don't know what the hell happened the Tucker Carlson.
But even back then, Victor Davis Hanson on and oh,
by the way now we're gonna have Candace Owens on.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean about a contrast.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Candace Owens has what credential that justifies her being on
a program like that spouting off her opinions. I always
found her to be intellectually vapid, vacant, void, lacking any
kind of credibility, you know, jumping off the top rope.
And then she went all in on the whole anti
(08:22):
Israel conspiracy theory. The Jews are running everything, the Jews
run the banks, and the Jews run Hollywood, and the Jews.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Killed Charlie Kirk? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't want to align myself with a person like that.
Let's get this back and forth here, Ben Shapiro, I'm
a big fan. And Megan Kelly. He ask me, why
am I out on Megan Kelly. I'm out on Megan Kelly.
I'm out on Tucker Carlson. I've been out on Candae Owans.
(08:53):
This is just my personal opinion for what it's worth,
I'm telling you what I think. This is Megan Kelly
with some blank stuff about conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And then came Candice Owns and that she really drives
people crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
She drives them crazy. They were very angry.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I didn't call her out for what she said about
Israel possibly being involved with Charlie Kirk. Well, I didn't
call her out because I was totally fine with those
questions being raised. And still am like, I'm sorry, but
I am I'm sick.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Of this book. I am allowed to have.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Questions about what if anyone aligned with Israel or from
Israel might have had to do with Charlie's death.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Come on, come on, Candas Owns is a moron, point
a point a, plain and simple. She's not a smart person.
She's dangerous enough to convince enough people that she's smart,
but she's not a smart person at all. And I
don't say that lightly, I don't but this whole nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm just asking questions, were just asking the Jews might
have killed Charlie Kirk. We don't know, Yeah, you do know.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's an idiotic conspiracy theory in a rabbit trail.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And we're not going to abide that. Not here, and
no sane person should.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And Ben Shapiro body bag the entire gamut at the
Turning Point USA event just a while ago.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Because we have a duty it's to truth.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
We also have a duty to provide you with evidence
of the claims that we make. A mode of accusations,
conspiracy theories and just asking questions, that's lazy and stupid
and misleading. None of them are a substitute for truth.
None of them are a substitute for evidence. So when
Candice Owen says, I don't know no, but I know
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that is retarded, and we are all more retarded for
having heard it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's right.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You can't just throw a blank at the wall and
hope that it sticks, or think that you can just
come up with kakamani bs. Well, anything could have happened.
Aliens could have come down and murdered Charlie Kirk. I
suppose if you're just asking questions, but you have an
obligation and a duty in this position or any other,
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to ask smart questions, to cut out the noise and
the bunk, and to focus in on what could be true.
Ockham's razor generally applies. Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk with
a rifle from a long distance. He did so in
order to champion his love.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
For his trans partner.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He viewed Charlie Kirk to be anti trans which was
not true, which is a bastardized version of what Charlie said.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Charlie is a Christian.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Charlie loves all human beings and he perpetuated that love
whenever he won on a college campus and had fruitful, productive,
positive interactions and discussions with people whom he disagreed with constantly.
Charlie Kirk was a force for good. Charlie Kirk was
pro Israel. Charlie Kirk was a Zionist, believing in Israel's
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right to exist. Charlie Kirk rallied against anti Semitic rallies
on college campuses. So wherever this is coming from, This delusional,
insipid conspiracy theory that somehow Benjamin nettan Yahoo, or Israel
or the Masade had something to do with Charlie Kirk's
death is hogwash. It is garbage, and if you perpetuate
(12:29):
those theories, you are garbage. Here's Megan Kelly, I mean,
this is just weak sauce, weak sauce. She's asked why
she doesn't stand up to Candace Owens and defend Erica Kirk.
Because Owens continues with this nonsense of maybe Erica Kirk
was in on it. Maybe Erica Kirk is a grifter
and looking to profit off of her husband's death and
(12:50):
wasn't that surprised, or maybe she contributed to shut up.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I won't condemn and say that Kansas Owens is hateful.
They want me I ain't really badly to condemn Candace owns,
and I'm sorry to break it to them, but I
am responsible for what I say, not for what anybody
else says. I am not Candace Owens's policeman. And by
the way, they're kidding themselves that if just one more
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voice will say something nasty about Candace, she could finally
be controlled.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No no, no against straw Man. Not saying you have
to say something nasty about her, but call her out
on her crap. That's your job, Megan Kelly, that's your job,
Tucker Carlson. That's the job that Ben Shapiro was doing,
and he made a big mistake, and I would think
if I had him on this program to interview him,
maybe that'll happen at some point. I would love to
talk to Ben. The biggest mistake of his career and
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perhaps his life, was hiring Candace owns at Diet Daily Wire.
I never understood it from the moment it happened, Folks,
I was at the forefront of being out on Candace
in her delusions. Now Ben's come around, and congratulations to him.
But you should have been able to spot this charlot
from five hundred miles away. She's a phony, she's a fraud,
(14:03):
she's a grifter. I don't even know if she believes
what she says. She's putting it out there, drawing what
we call in the pro wrestling realm cheap heat, cheap
heat as worth. All you Hammon agers here in Detroit,
Michigan working on the assembly line, your lives don't mean anything.
And if I came in here and wanted any of
your women, your wives, your girlfriends, I could have them.
(14:26):
That's me drawing cheap heat at a WWE event, let's say,
at the old Joe Louis Arena.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what they used to do. That's what Candice Owens is.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
She is nothing more than a carnival barking pro wrestler
drawing cheap heat Rick Flair style.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Then, Then, to Magan Kelly's point, Oh, it's not up
to us to criticize or put cannas owns in her place.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's the same thing, the same.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Garbage the Tucker Carlson was trouting other oh something might
drop the call at Nick quent face. You know, when
he says that Stalin was a good guy and he
admires Stalin and celebrates his birthday.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Joseph Stalin was one of the most evil figures, not
only of the twentieth century but of human history and
of Nick Flint days.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Let's say he was on this show.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
For whatever reason, and he came out and said, I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Bro Step back now, either you're just fooling around here
being a chucklehead saying I love Justice.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Dah, his birthday is great.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Come on, dude, you don't really believe that, right, because
Tucker just all, oh, that's interesting, We'll get to that later,
and he never got to it later. Now you have
an obligation in this space when when something absolutely insane
comes up like that, you question it, you push back
on it. And here is Ben Shapiro just based on
(15:49):
Tucker Carlson, and here comes Megan Kelly trotting it out
like well, Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
He wasn't that bad of a guy.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Too, saying it last week that the Venice Wayland regime
of Nicholas Maduro is actually not that bad because they're
being attacked by, in his words, Global Homo.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Tucker's made the I'm not going to hear it be
Tucker's defender, but he's made a point that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Maduro is culturally conservative. Gives USh. The guy's a communist dictator.
Everyone in his country is getting goal.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He's shipping fendantal to the United States to kill Americans.
What don't you abou whether he's whether he's anti LGBTQ rights.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is the number one thing about Nicholas Udoro.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Now a farm down list you have to get before
you can get to anything remotely recommendable about Nicholas Semnuoro.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, Shapiro has this kind of staccato machine gun verbal style.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think he makes fun of himself sometimes, but he's
absolutely spot on here. There is nothing conservative about a
communist dictator and a brutal regime that he represents and
heads up and took over from Hugo Shabaz. I mean
if you're culturally repressive and you oppose let's say, LGBTQ
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rights writ large, that does not make you a conservative.
He does not champion individual rights. That's all part and
parcel of the entire swath of anti individualism, of collectivism,
of punting rugged individualism like Zora Mumdani wants to do,
and says, we are going to castrate you and throttle
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your rights across the board. Free speech that's gone, right
to bare arms that's gone. We just happened to also
be anti LGBTQ, which fits in with whatever Tucker's worldview is,
and that makes Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, No, it does not, Now it does not. Let's
go to some texts.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Now, the real Ralph says, love your Trump impression, but
your Brownie needs some work.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Ella, what are you saying there, Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I never heard Ross say there wasn't an Ice agent
in front the vehicle. He said that she wasn't trying
to hit the agent. I disagree with Ross's characterization of
the incident too, but we should represent what he said accurately.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I heard him.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I'm sitting right there at my desk, folks, and I'm
talking to Brownie about it too, and I'm talking to
my phone, Hello, reporters in the newsroom. I mean, maybe
I'm wrong, but I don't think that I am. I
believe that what I heard was rossick.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There wasn't an agent in front of the vehicle. There was.
I heard him say it, and I'm like, what what
was that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's why it struck me because I'm just sitting there
kind of minding my own business, trying to edit some audio,
and it was what what did you say?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So, you know, maybe parts of the audio.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't have time to dig through it on my
own here. Got a show to do, obviously, but if
you can find it, you can present it to me.
I'm open to it. Five seven seven three nine. We'll
take this time out. I just got a text message,
let me look here.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is live radio.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh never mind from Eve Sparks, the cons director for
Representative Jeff Crank. He is scheduled to join us next
lots to talk to him about and give us an
inside look at Congress.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All these issues we were talking about and dealing with.
He gets a vote on them, and he'll tell us
about all of it when we come back after this
On Ryan Schuling live.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
It strikes me that we are undergoing an epidemic of
political vigilanteism right now. Why are people showing up in
vehicles in convoys, not just in Minneapolis, but all over
the country in an effort to obstruct lawful federal law
enforcement activities. This is not an isolated incident. We have
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had hundreds of car rammings against ICE agents all.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Over the country.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
According to DHS, this lady in this car today, along
with other vehicles, have been tracking ICE agents around. Why
are people believing that they can drive their car into
a federal law enforcement situation and that is an appropriate
thing to do. I understand they don't like the fact
that these agents are enforcing existing immigration law, but that's
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not how we change laws in this country. If you
don't like a law, you talk to the politicians. You
don't drive your car into the middle of a building
or a law enforcement situation that's being occupied by the
people who are simply there to enforce the law. If
I don't like how much the IRS is charging me
in taxes, I don't drive my car into the Treasury
Department try to run somebody over. I call my congressman,
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political vigilanteism is being encouraged by Democratic officials like the
Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan, who earlier this year
told people to quote put your bodies on the line,
and Tim Walls calling these guys gestapo all year. What
do you think happens when you radicalize a base of people?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
As usual?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Coajin analysis from Scott Jennings on CNN and largely a
lot of what I was saying in the aftermath of
my conversation with Weld County Sheriff Steve Reims during our
seven o'clock hour. Now, the woman in question who was
killed yesterday, thirty seven year old Renan Nicole Good, is
the Colorado Springs native, and joining us now on Ryan
(20:42):
Shulding Live. He represents that district the fifth in Congress
Representative Jeff Crank our guest, Jeff, thanks for your time.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
As always, Thank you, Ryan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Just building on what Scott Jennings said about the incident
in question yesterday, the ratcheting up of rhetoric and this
heat against ice that makes people feel emboldened to stand
in the breach, to stand in their way, to obstruct
them physically rather than rally, the troops try to change
hearts and minds, win votes, change laws that way. The
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way Scott Jennings just said, where are we at as
a country, as a society where something like yesterday happens?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Yeah, I think that's very true. I mean, it's irresponsible,
irresponsible rhetoric, and you know on the part of many
elected officials, including the governor of Minnesota, the mayor of Minneapolis,
so many others that we saw with just these irresponsible comments.
But it's also you know, some of my colleagues here
in Congress who are ratcheting up this hatred. It's the
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same thing as the war on police, right that we
saw the defund the police effort that was out there. Look,
I think the American people believe that the federal government,
state government, and local government should work together for the
protection of society. And that's when society works best. And
you know, in the past, I've used the example of
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if there's a bank robbery, the FBI comes in and
investigates a bank robberty, what happened if the FBI just said,
you know what, We're just not going to do that anymore.
We're just going to forget that and leave it to
local police. Well, society kind of falls apart when you
stop enforcing laws or you start ignoring others, and different
levels of law enforcement stop cooperating with one another, and
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ultimately it's a breakdown of society. And I think it's
exactly right. We have these irresponsible politicians that are out
there trying to whip up their base, and it's getting dangerous.
It's getting dangerous for the elected officials. It's certainly getting
dangerous for our men and women of law enforcement, whether
they're federal, state or local.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Representative Jeff Crank our guest from the fifth Congressional down
in Colorado Springs, and again that was the original home
of Vernainicle Good who was shot and killed by an
ICE agent yesterday, and an investigation will continue. As the
congressman pointed out, we know the spewing of rhetoric from
Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, using profanity yesterday, you know,
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telling Ice to get the f out of Minneapolis. But
then there were the comments of Governor Tim Walls and
again trying to maintain some level of decorum and calm
and peace here. But I don't think he does that
with these comments right here, this.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Morning, we learned that an ice officer shot and killed
someone in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
My deepest signolence is to the.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Family, to the loved ones who had to learn about
this tragic event on national television. We've been warning for
weeks that the Trump administration's dangerous, sensationalized operations are a
threat to our public safety, that someone was going to
get hurt. Just yesterday I said exactly that what we're
seeing is the consequences of governance designed to generate fear,
(23:51):
headlines and conflict. It's governing by reality TV, and today
that recklessness cost someone their life. I've reached out to
Secretary of Homeland Security Christinome, and I'm waiting to.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Hear back governance designed to generate fear representative Crank and
what I'm hearing here there was this ominous prediction of
this is going to happen, This is going to happen.
Was this not just a self fulfilling prophecy based on
the very rhetoric that was ratcheted up by Walls, by Fry,
by others on the left.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, of course, of course it is Ryan. And you
know the bottom line is and this this episode, as
you mentioned, is being investigated. It'll have a full investigation.
I will tell you I always give the benefit of
the doubt to law enforcement officers. I've always said, if
you're not the person standing in front of that vehicle,
if you're not the person standing in front of that
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barrel of the gun, you really don't have a right
to judge, you know, what you might do in that situation.
So there ought to be a full investigation. And if
officers were, you know, is determined that they did something wrong,
they should be held accountable for that. But I'm always
going to side at first glance and give benefit of
the doubt to the police, to our law enforcement. And
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you know, there is a way that this could have
been avoided. She could have complied with the demands of
the police officer. That I've taught my kids when they
were growing up. If you get pulled over, you put
your hands on the steering wheel, you're polite to the
police officers, You comply with what they ask you, and
it will be a good interaction with the police. And
we see that all the time. That happens most of
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the time in interactions with law enforcement is people comply
with what they say and things go well. But when
you lip off, when you decide you're not going to
comply with you know that, and you're interfering with a
federal law enforcement agent, then you know, things can go badly,
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and bad things do happen, and we'll have to see
what specifically comes out of this investigation. But you know,
those are the realities of this terrible rhetoric that there's
ratcheting people up to hate Ice and to think that
they're out there doing bad things. They are enforcing the
laws that Congress passed. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Fifth Congressional Representative Jeff Crank joining us now. Jeff, I
know you have your three other colleagues Republicans there in
the House, and a lot of people have eyes on
you because of this narrowing margin of the majority there.
We just had a death in the Congress, tragically, so
sadly so, but I know that the residents here in
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Colorado who live in the various districts, whether it's Jeff
Heard in the third, or Lauren Bobert in the fourth,
or Gabe Evans the eighth, or you in the fifth,
about certain votes that kind of raise eyebrows for Jeff
heard from me. It was when he refused to assensure
ilhan Omar wasn't real sure on that one. And we
know that Lauren Bobert's taken he we talked about this,
(26:45):
you and me about her going along with this initial
kind of resolution on the Epstein files, that putting yourself
at odds with Donald Trump. Also on this water bill,
which I want to get your take on as well
in just a moment. But then Representative Gabet and I
want to have you respond to this because I invoked
your name in a conversation with him just before the
Christmas holiday on these trans surgery defunding votes and the
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two different bills that were on the floor.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
One was sponsored.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Proposed by Marjorie Taylor Green now she's out of the House,
and the other by Dan Crenshaw. Evans voted at against
the Green bill for the Crenshaw one, and I want
you to hear this and respond to it. You could
have gone along the lines of your fellow Republican congress
members in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Jeff heard Lauren Bobert and Jeff Crank.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And just voted yes on both of them, and you
wouldn't had to deal with all of this. You chose
instead to kind of draw that line that you made
of distinction.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And it makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But from a political standpoint, wouldn't it been just easier.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'll vote yes on this one, and I vote yes
on this one too.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Sure it would have been easier, you know. But I
think that's one of the things that bothers folks about Washington, DC,
is when you have members of Congress that disagree with
a bill, but yeah, you know what, I'm gonna vote
for it, go along to get Alonger the opposite happens.
They think it's a bad excuse me, a good bill,
but they don't want to vote for it. And so
that's you know, I had to have a long, hard
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look in the mirror with myself based on.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The twelve years that I spent in the military, the.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Ten years that I spent as a cop, and.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Say, take all of the politics out of this.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
At the end of the day, is it good policy
or bad policy to arrest doctors.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Given that we know there's this other bill that has.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
The same effect, just defunds the procedures preemptively. Are these
good policies or bad policies? And again, this is federal
law we're talking about. Here. This isn't a letter to
the editor or an op ed. This is federal law
that deprives people of you know, life, liberty, and happiness.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And we want to make good decisions in this place.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And so I made the decision because I think you
ought to let your yes B yes, and your no
B no, and if you disagree with the policy, come
back do like we're doing right now. Have the conversation
talked about why you did what you did. But I
can't stand politically expedient votes if somebody doesn't actually agree
with the way they're voting.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Past Representative Gave Evans eighth Congressional Representative Jeff Crank, fifth
Congressional joining us here. He further explained Jeff that he
thought strategically the Crenshaw Bill was more likely to pass
the Senate and get to Trump's desk rather than the
Green Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You voted yes on both of them.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Can you break down where you differ from Representative Evans
on this issue and where your stance is?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Sure, Well, first and foremost, I want you know. The
first thing I'd say is, Gabe Evans is one of
my best friends in Congress. He's a he's a great legislator,
and he's cast tremendous votes. I mean, he has a
very difficult district, as you.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Know, Ryan, but he's one of these members.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
That just goes down and does it. Like on the
One Big Beautiful Bill, he was not the guy asking
for concessions and I need this, mister Speaker, and I
need this. What he went down and he cast what
he knows is going to be a vote that some
on the left are going to beat him up on.
So from that standpoint, Gabe and I, you know, generally
we agree. This is probably the first real vote that
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we disagreed on, and he just drew the line somewhere.
It doesn't mean that he's not in favor of, you know,
stopping these these surgeries on children, these mutilation surgeries in
many cases on children. So it's just I think he
looks at it differently about.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Where you do it now.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
I looked at it as, look, if we make something
illegal and a doctor performs it, are we willing to
have teeth behind that? From a federal standpoint, And so
I was a yes on both films. I just think
it's abhorrent that we would allow doctors to do this
to children who are under eighteen. It's a life altering surgery.
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It shouldn't be done, and I think the Congress of
the United States has the right to say that and
make that determination. We do it all the time on
other things. So there's a difference there. But you know, overall,
I would say, you know, Gabe and I and Lauren
and Jeffyord probably agree on on you know, ninety to
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ninety five percent of the issues, all good warriors supporting
the president. I'm glad that you didn't pick any of
my votes out and say that they were once that
you disagreed with, So I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Ryan Representative Jeff Crank doing solid work in the fifth
Congressional Jeff, you understand the gears of government how they work,
now that you've been there for a little bit in
the sausage factory. So I just want to get your
take from behind the scenes on Represented Lauren Bolbert's bipartisan
co sponsored bill HR one thirty one, the Arkansas Valley
Conduit Act, that was vetoed by President Trump despite strong
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majorities in both chambers the House and the Senate. We
saw Senator Michael Bennett Senator John Hickenlooper come out strongly
against the president's veto.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
What do you make of that? How what is the.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Best path forward for Colorado to get its water? Was
this act a bipartisan one one that you supported.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Yeah, it is something that I supported, And I think
I don't agree with the veto of the bill. I
am not someone who is you know. I know that
many of the Democrats in Colorado and elsewhere like to
use it as a point to go after President Trump.
I don't happen to agree with that. I think the
President made a judgment or returnment determination. I don't think
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there was any ill will in that determination. He just
decided that he was going to veto the bill for
the reasons that he put out there. But I don't
think all of the information was available to the president.
And here here's my view of it. We ought to
and I'm going to vote to override the president's veto
on that bill. I think it was the veto was
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not correct. But if we're able to do it, great.
If we aren't able to do it, we need to
go right back and work with the administration and figure
out a way to get water provided to these citizens
of Colorado. So that ought to be our focus. It
shouldn't be the you know, I know some are two
US Senators and others like to everything the president does
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do they want to make it into a political issue.
How about we solve problems and let's try and do this.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I'm going to be with them.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
We're all going to vote, I think in Colorado to
override the veto here. But if it doesn't work, let's
figure out a way to make it work and get
water to these citizens that deserve to have water out
of the Arkansas River.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He does serve on the US House Committee on Natural Resources,
probably serving the fifth District of Colorado. You can follow
him on x at Rep. Jeff Crank. Always great having
conversations with you, Jeff. Thanks for your transparency and thanks
for your.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Time today, Ryan, and thank you for not criticizing me
on a single vote.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Again, I want to emphasize.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That, Ryan, if it comes up, we'll have that conversation.
That's why we love having you on Jeff.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right, we'll take this time out wrap it all
up on Ryan Schuling Live after this time once again
for another edition of Trump's Hot Takes, charting the forty
seven president's epic interactions.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
With a fake news media. My wife, by the way,
I want to be.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
More of a I want to really yeah these subjects.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm trying to get that vote. It's not an easy
vote to get. It's very tough for me to get.
He's on fire.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
He has these bits he rolls out like a stand
up comedian would in a professional realm, and he was
absolutely living it up there with the Republicans yesterday. That'll
do it for me from here for now, inviting us
to join us tomorrow a Friday edition Ryan Schulding Live,
including the Right Side of Hollywood, Christian Toto, and Deborah
Flora right here on six point thirty k
KRFS HTQ Denver, KHOW Denver six thirty k OUT Denver's
talk station din iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Guaranteed Human all right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I mentioned this before the break, and I made a
promise to get to it, and I didn't. Then I
apologize for that. But here we are final our Ryan
schuling live. And that's a great thing about having four
hours instead.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Of two, because I can go ahead and put this
on the docket. Here start the nine am hour.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Your calls three zero three seven, one three eight two
five five anything that you've heard today. Barb Kirkmeyer in
our first hour drew a lot of texts that I
want to get to as well. She a candidate for
governor the senator in the General Assembly, one of three
participating candidates on the Republican side that will be participating
(00:47):
in the forum on Saturday in Greeley.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll be a part of that. Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Still a few tickets left at the Double Tree by
Hilton Greeley at Lincoln Park, sponsored by Wells Ranch. That's
Steve Wells one thirty pm to three thirty pm this Saturday.
Sheriff Steve Reams of Wild County will be mc ing
Mandy Connell of KOA and me, we will both be moderating,
and the three of us, Mandy, myself, Sheriff Raemes be
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meeting up immediately after this program in about an hour,
so I'm looking forward to that. Always a pleasure to
see the sheriff in person and to get to chat
with Mandy Connell as well, another one of my colleagues here.
I used to produce his program when he was on
in the two to four pm slot. He's back there now.
By the way, things coming full circle. Michael Brown reloaded,
(01:36):
so the first two hours every day of his program
that airs on KOA, which is going on right now,
the nine am hour, the ten am hour, you can
hear right here on six thirty KL from two to
four pm. Our repackaged reloaded by Dragon, so you can
stick with me for this nine o'clock hour at Listen
to Michael Brown later. But here is what he had
(01:58):
to say about katiev R Fox thirty one earlier this morning,
you just gave a horrible one sided point of view
on the ice shooting.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
In MSP.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You read a statement from the mother described the deceased
as loving a poet and her death is quote stupid
then swerved into polist want in an investigation completely and
totally one sided.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You realized she broke the law, don't you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
She was a criminal and the ICE agent was lawfully
engaged in self defense.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You utterly ignored the whole story.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm so disappointed in the editor of the decision to
present a one sided story. He lost a lot of
credibility today making Kurt read that story without any context whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Shame on you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love when Brownie said, he says it a lot,
and it's kind of one of his go two phrases.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh no, the situation, Michael Brown. Shame on you. But
he's right, He's right.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean you could present you know who this individual was, talking,
of course, about the woman thirty seven years of age,
Renana Coole Good, Colorado Springs native, who was shot and killed, yes,
by an Ice agent. Now there are extenuating circumstances, of course,
to what actually happened on the ground there.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We spoke about it at length with Weld.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
County Sheriff Steve Reams, who has experience in this realm
law enforcement. You have seconds to make a life or
death decision one way or the other, and that could
be the life or death of a perpetrator like Naanicle Good,
whose vehicle was obstructing ICE.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
She was instructing it out of the car. She refused
that order, and she floored it. She slammed on the
gas with an ICE.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Agent both to the side of the vehicle and in
front of the vehicle, and she clipped the ICE agent
in front of.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The vehicle on her way trying to flee the scene.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You don't have a right to flee the scene when
you've inserted yourself into a situation that has ratcheted up
and put ICE agents their lives in danger. You are
the problem. Nobody made Renaana cole Good take her vehicle,
put it in the middle of the street and obstruct ICE.
Nobody forced nanacle Good to slam on the accelerator and
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clip one of the agents on her way out when
she was simply instructed to.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Get out of her vehicle. Poops, that's all she needed
to do.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Any one of us in that situation, if you were
confronted by a law enforcement officer, show that person respect.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They might be wrong. They might be wrong. You'll have
your day in court.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You have a right to an attorney, You have a
right not to testify against yourself, to incriminate yourself. They
have to mirandize you. All of that. You have to
know your legal rights, and I'm fairly certain Renaina Cole
Good was smart enough to know her legal rights in
that situation. You don't have to escalate it. You should
not escalate it because you could end up DRT dead
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right there.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
As Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Would say, if you're given an order by a law
enforcement officer, you might not like it, you might not
agree with it, you might hate an ICE agent or
a sheriff of Well County. She's kidding, Steve, but you
gotta be an instruction given to you by an armed officer.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Don't be stupid, be smart.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So that's where we begin today with Michael Brown's comment
and then again by colleague Ross Kamenski over there.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I kept hearing and repeat.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This nonsense, this balderdash about there wasn't an Ice agent
in front of the vehicle. There was, observably so on
the video, an Ice agent in front of the vehicle
who got clipped on Renee Nicole.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Goods way out, that's happen.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
That happened, that's not disputable, can't be putting fake News
out there and Michael Brown not happy with what the
Fox thirty one did earlier today, So glad we got
to cover that. Your calls three zero three seven one,
three eight two five five. In your text at five
seven seven three nine coming into the top of the hour,
(06:00):
here had the question from this text, are just curious
what your beef is with Megan Kelly. It seems like
she has moved to the right and is not the
stay Megan Kelly from years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Anyway, Just curious on your thoughts. You're correct, you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Know from me when you go from her confronting Donald
Trump in the Republican debate in twenty sixteen about how
he talked about and treated women, and then after that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's like, you know, she was really angry, she had
blood coming out of her eyes, her mouth.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wherever, you're just like, oh my god, Donald Trump, wow,
or the horse face comments about Carly Fiorina or Ted
Cruz's wife.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
She's not Millennia.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Let's just put it that way, like, Okay, settle down, bro,
I get it, I get it. But no, from there,
Megan Kelly went from I don't know. I mean, she
was on Fox News. I thought she did a good job.
She was hired by NBC. She had the black face
incident there for which she was summarily fired. She started
out her own podcast network. It was successful. But now, yes,
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she moved right. Yes she was a Trump supporter. Yes,
she appeared on the campaign trail in twenty twenty four
with the former president now forty seventh president.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But she has gone wacko along with Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I don't know why these two have followed Candas Owens,
of all people over the edge of the cliff. Candace Owens,
why I remember, going way back, ladies and gentlemen. She
would appear on the regular on Tucker Carlson's show. What
a platform that is. He would have the likes to look.
Victor Davis Hanson on there, and we prayed for him.
He's undergone cancer surgery and that he'll be okay. Vdh
(07:40):
is as smart of a guy as there is. You know,
professor at Hillsdale College. This guy knows American history inside
and out. And even he has come out and be like,
I don't know what the hell happened the Tucker Carlson.
But even back then, Victor Davis Hanson on and oh,
by the way now we're gonna have Candace Owens on.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean about a contrast.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Candace Owens has what credential that justifies her being on
a program like that spouting off her opinions. I always
found her to be intellectually vapid, vacant, void, lacking any
kind of credibility, you know, jumping off the top rope.
And then she went all in on the whole anti
(08:22):
Israel conspiracy theory. The Jews are running everything, the Jews
run the banks, and the Jews run Hollywood, and the Jews.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Killed Charlie Kirk? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't want to align myself with a person like that.
Let's get this back and forth here, Ben Shapiro, I'm
a big fan. And Megan Kelly. He ask me, why
am I out on Megan Kelly. I'm out on Megan Kelly.
I'm out on Tucker Carlson. I've been out on Candae Owans.
(08:53):
This is just my personal opinion for what it's worth,
I'm telling you what I think. This is Megan Kelly
with some blank stuff about conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And then came Candice Owns and that she really drives
people crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
She drives them crazy. They were very angry.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I didn't call her out for what she said about
Israel possibly being involved with Charlie Kirk. Well, I didn't
call her out because I was totally fine with those
questions being raised. And still am like, I'm sorry, but
I am I'm sick.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Of this book. I am allowed to have.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Questions about what if anyone aligned with Israel or from
Israel might have had to do with Charlie's death.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Come on, come on, Candas Owns is a moron, point
a point a, plain and simple. She's not a smart person.
She's dangerous enough to convince enough people that she's smart,
but she's not a smart person at all. And I
don't say that lightly, I don't but this whole nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm just asking questions, were just asking the Jews might
have killed Charlie Kirk. We don't know, Yeah, you do know.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's an idiotic conspiracy theory in a rabbit trail.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And we're not going to abide that. Not here, and
no sane person should.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And Ben Shapiro body bag the entire gamut at the
Turning Point USA event just a while ago.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Because we have a duty it's to truth.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
We also have a duty to provide you with evidence
of the claims that we make. A mode of accusations,
conspiracy theories and just asking questions, that's lazy and stupid
and misleading. None of them are a substitute for truth.
None of them are a substitute for evidence. So when
Candice Owen says, I don't know no, but I know
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that is retarded, and we are all more retarded for
having heard it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's right.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You can't just throw a blank at the wall and
hope that it sticks, or think that you can just
come up with kakamani bs. Well, anything could have happened.
Aliens could have come down and murdered Charlie Kirk. I
suppose if you're just asking questions, but you have an
obligation and a duty in this position or any other,
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to ask smart questions, to cut out the noise and
the bunk, and to focus in on what could be true.
Ockham's razor generally applies. Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk with
a rifle from a long distance. He did so in
order to champion his love.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
For his trans partner.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He viewed Charlie Kirk to be anti trans which was
not true, which is a bastardized version of what Charlie said.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Charlie is a Christian.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Charlie loves all human beings and he perpetuated that love
whenever he won on a college campus and had fruitful, productive,
positive interactions and discussions with people whom he disagreed with constantly.
Charlie Kirk was a force for good. Charlie Kirk was
pro Israel. Charlie Kirk was a Zionist, believing in Israel's
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right to exist. Charlie Kirk rallied against anti Semitic rallies
on college campuses. So wherever this is coming from, This delusional,
insipid conspiracy theory that somehow Benjamin nettan Yahoo, or Israel
or the Masade had something to do with Charlie Kirk's
death is hogwash. It is garbage, and if you perpetuate
(12:29):
those theories, you are garbage. Here's Megan Kelly, I mean,
this is just weak sauce, weak sauce. She's asked why
she doesn't stand up to Candace Owens and defend Erica Kirk.
Because Owens continues with this nonsense of maybe Erica Kirk
was in on it. Maybe Erica Kirk is a grifter
and looking to profit off of her husband's death and
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wasn't that surprised, or maybe she contributed to shut up.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I won't condemn and say that Kansas Owens is hateful.
They want me I ain't really badly to condemn Candace owns,
and I'm sorry to break it to them, but I
am responsible for what I say, not for what anybody
else says. I am not Candace Owens's policeman. And by
the way, they're kidding themselves that if just one more
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voice will say something nasty about Candace, she could finally
be controlled.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No no, no against straw Man. Not saying you have
to say something nasty about her, but call her out
on her crap. That's your job, Megan Kelly, that's your job,
Tucker Carlson. That's the job that Ben Shapiro was doing,
and he made a big mistake, and I would think
if I had him on this program to interview him,
maybe that'll happen at some point. I would love to
talk to Ben. The biggest mistake of his career and
(13:41):
perhaps his life, was hiring Candace owns at Diet Daily Wire.
I never understood it from the moment it happened, Folks,
I was at the forefront of being out on Candace
in her delusions. Now Ben's come around, and congratulations to him.
But you should have been able to spot this charlot
from five hundred miles away. She's a phony, she's a fraud,
(14:03):
she's a grifter. I don't even know if she believes
what she says. She's putting it out there, drawing what
we call in the pro wrestling realm cheap heat, cheap
heat as worth. All you Hammon agers here in Detroit,
Michigan working on the assembly line, your lives don't mean anything.
And if I came in here and wanted any of
your women, your wives, your girlfriends, I could have them.
(14:26):
That's me drawing cheap heat at a WWE event, let's say,
at the old Joe Louis Arena.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what they used to do. That's what Candice Owens is.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
She is nothing more than a carnival barking pro wrestler
drawing cheap heat Rick Flair style.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Then, Then, to Magan Kelly's point, Oh, it's not up
to us to criticize or put cannas owns in her place.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's the same thing, the same.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Garbage the Tucker Carlson was trouting other oh something might
drop the call at Nick quent face. You know, when
he says that Stalin was a good guy and he
admires Stalin and celebrates his birthday.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Joseph Stalin was one of the most evil figures, not
only of the twentieth century but of human history and
of Nick Flint days.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Let's say he was on this show.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
For whatever reason, and he came out and said, I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Bro Step back now, either you're just fooling around here
being a chucklehead saying I love Justice.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Dah, his birthday is great.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Come on, dude, you don't really believe that, right, because
Tucker just all, oh, that's interesting, We'll get to that later,
and he never got to it later. Now you have
an obligation in this space when when something absolutely insane
comes up like that, you question it, you push back
on it. And here is Ben Shapiro just based on
(15:49):
Tucker Carlson, and here comes Megan Kelly trotting it out
like well, Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
He wasn't that bad of a guy.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Too, saying it last week that the Venice Wayland regime
of Nicholas Maduro is actually not that bad because they're
being attacked by, in his words, Global Homo.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Tucker's made the I'm not going to hear it be
Tucker's defender, but he's made a point that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Maduro is culturally conservative. Gives USh. The guy's a communist dictator.
Everyone in his country is getting goal.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He's shipping fendantal to the United States to kill Americans.
What don't you abou whether he's whether he's anti LGBTQ rights.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is the number one thing about Nicholas Udoro.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Now a farm down list you have to get before
you can get to anything remotely recommendable about Nicholas Semnuoro.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, Shapiro has this kind of staccato machine gun verbal style.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think he makes fun of himself sometimes, but he's
absolutely spot on here. There is nothing conservative about a
communist dictator and a brutal regime that he represents and
heads up and took over from Hugo Shabaz. I mean
if you're culturally repressive and you oppose let's say, LGBTQ
(16:51):
rights writ large, that does not make you a conservative.
He does not champion individual rights. That's all part and
parcel of the entire swath of anti individualism, of collectivism,
of punting rugged individualism like Zora Mumdani wants to do,
and says, we are going to castrate you and throttle
(17:15):
your rights across the board. Free speech that's gone, right
to bare arms that's gone. We just happened to also
be anti LGBTQ, which fits in with whatever Tucker's worldview is,
and that makes Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, No, it does not, Now it does not. Let's
go to some texts.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Now, the real Ralph says, love your Trump impression, but
your Brownie needs some work.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Ella, what are you saying there, Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I never heard Ross say there wasn't an Ice agent
in front the vehicle. He said that she wasn't trying
to hit the agent. I disagree with Ross's characterization of
the incident too, but we should represent what he said accurately.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I heard him.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I'm sitting right there at my desk, folks, and I'm
talking to Brownie about it too, and I'm talking to
my phone, Hello, reporters in the newsroom. I mean, maybe
I'm wrong, but I don't think that I am. I
believe that what I heard was rossick.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There wasn't an agent in front of the vehicle. There was.
I heard him say it, and I'm like, what what
was that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's why it struck me because I'm just sitting there
kind of minding my own business, trying to edit some audio,
and it was what what did you say?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So, you know, maybe parts of the audio.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't have time to dig through it on my
own here. Got a show to do, obviously, but if
you can find it, you can present it to me.
I'm open to it. Five seven seven three nine. We'll
take this time out. I just got a text message,
let me look here.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is live radio.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh never mind from Eve Sparks, the cons director for
Representative Jeff Crank. He is scheduled to join us next
lots to talk to him about and give us an
inside look at Congress.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All these issues we were talking about and dealing with.
He gets a vote on them, and he'll tell us
about all of it when we come back after this
On Ryan Schuling live.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
It strikes me that we are undergoing an epidemic of
political vigilanteism right now. Why are people showing up in
vehicles in convoys, not just in Minneapolis, but all over
the country in an effort to obstruct lawful federal law
enforcement activities. This is not an isolated incident. We have
(19:17):
had hundreds of car rammings against ICE agents all.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Over the country.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
According to DHS, this lady in this car today, along
with other vehicles, have been tracking ICE agents around. Why
are people believing that they can drive their car into
a federal law enforcement situation and that is an appropriate
thing to do. I understand they don't like the fact
that these agents are enforcing existing immigration law, but that's
(19:42):
not how we change laws in this country. If you
don't like a law, you talk to the politicians. You
don't drive your car into the middle of a building
or a law enforcement situation that's being occupied by the
people who are simply there to enforce the law. If
I don't like how much the IRS is charging me
in taxes, I don't drive my car into the Treasury
Department try to run somebody over. I call my congressman,
(20:03):
political vigilanteism is being encouraged by Democratic officials like the
Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan, who earlier this year
told people to quote put your bodies on the line,
and Tim Walls calling these guys gestapo all year. What
do you think happens when you radicalize a base of people?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
As usual?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Coajin analysis from Scott Jennings on CNN and largely a
lot of what I was saying in the aftermath of
my conversation with Weld County Sheriff Steve Reims during our
seven o'clock hour. Now, the woman in question who was
killed yesterday, thirty seven year old Renan Nicole Good, is
the Colorado Springs native, and joining us now on Ryan
(20:42):
Shulding Live. He represents that district the fifth in Congress
Representative Jeff Crank our guest, Jeff, thanks for your time.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
As always, Thank you, Ryan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Just building on what Scott Jennings said about the incident
in question yesterday, the ratcheting up of rhetoric and this
heat against ice that makes people feel emboldened to stand
in the breach, to stand in their way, to obstruct
them physically rather than rally, the troops try to change
hearts and minds, win votes, change laws that way. The
(21:13):
way Scott Jennings just said, where are we at as
a country, as a society where something like yesterday happens?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Yeah, I think that's very true. I mean, it's irresponsible,
irresponsible rhetoric, and you know on the part of many
elected officials, including the governor of Minnesota, the mayor of Minneapolis,
so many others that we saw with just these irresponsible comments.
But it's also you know, some of my colleagues here
in Congress who are ratcheting up this hatred. It's the
(21:42):
same thing as the war on police, right that we
saw the defund the police effort that was out there. Look,
I think the American people believe that the federal government,
state government, and local government should work together for the
protection of society. And that's when society works best. And
you know, in the past, I've used the example of
(22:03):
if there's a bank robbery, the FBI comes in and
investigates a bank robberty, what happened if the FBI just said,
you know what, We're just not going to do that anymore.
We're just going to forget that and leave it to
local police. Well, society kind of falls apart when you
stop enforcing laws or you start ignoring others, and different
levels of law enforcement stop cooperating with one another, and
(22:26):
ultimately it's a breakdown of society. And I think it's
exactly right. We have these irresponsible politicians that are out
there trying to whip up their base, and it's getting dangerous.
It's getting dangerous for the elected officials. It's certainly getting
dangerous for our men and women of law enforcement, whether
they're federal, state or local.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Representative Jeff Crank our guest from the fifth Congressional down
in Colorado Springs, and again that was the original home
of Vernainicle Good who was shot and killed by an
ICE agent yesterday, and an investigation will continue. As the
congressman pointed out, we know the spewing of rhetoric from
Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, using profanity yesterday, you know,
(23:08):
telling Ice to get the f out of Minneapolis. But
then there were the comments of Governor Tim Walls and
again trying to maintain some level of decorum and calm
and peace here. But I don't think he does that
with these comments right here, this.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Morning, we learned that an ice officer shot and killed
someone in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
My deepest signolence is to the.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Family, to the loved ones who had to learn about
this tragic event on national television. We've been warning for
weeks that the Trump administration's dangerous, sensationalized operations are a
threat to our public safety, that someone was going to
get hurt. Just yesterday I said exactly that what we're
seeing is the consequences of governance designed to generate fear,
(23:51):
headlines and conflict. It's governing by reality TV, and today
that recklessness cost someone their life. I've reached out to
Secretary of Homeland Security Christinome, and I'm waiting to.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Hear back governance designed to generate fear representative Crank and
what I'm hearing here there was this ominous prediction of
this is going to happen, This is going to happen.
Was this not just a self fulfilling prophecy based on
the very rhetoric that was ratcheted up by Walls, by Fry,
by others on the left.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, of course, of course it is Ryan. And you
know the bottom line is and this this episode, as
you mentioned, is being investigated. It'll have a full investigation.
I will tell you I always give the benefit of
the doubt to law enforcement officers. I've always said, if
you're not the person standing in front of that vehicle,
if you're not the person standing in front of that
(24:41):
barrel of the gun, you really don't have a right
to judge, you know, what you might do in that situation.
So there ought to be a full investigation. And if
officers were, you know, is determined that they did something wrong,
they should be held accountable for that. But I'm always
going to side at first glance and give benefit of
the doubt to the police, to our law enforcement. And
(25:04):
you know, there is a way that this could have
been avoided. She could have complied with the demands of
the police officer. That I've taught my kids when they
were growing up. If you get pulled over, you put
your hands on the steering wheel, you're polite to the
police officers, You comply with what they ask you, and
it will be a good interaction with the police. And
we see that all the time. That happens most of
(25:25):
the time in interactions with law enforcement is people comply
with what they say and things go well. But when
you lip off, when you decide you're not going to
comply with you know that, and you're interfering with a
federal law enforcement agent, then you know, things can go badly,
(25:45):
and bad things do happen, and we'll have to see
what specifically comes out of this investigation. But you know,
those are the realities of this terrible rhetoric that there's
ratcheting people up to hate Ice and to think that
they're out there doing bad things. They are enforcing the
laws that Congress passed. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Fifth Congressional Representative Jeff Crank joining us now. Jeff, I
know you have your three other colleagues Republicans there in
the House, and a lot of people have eyes on
you because of this narrowing margin of the majority there.
We just had a death in the Congress, tragically, so
sadly so, but I know that the residents here in
(26:25):
Colorado who live in the various districts, whether it's Jeff
Heard in the third, or Lauren Bobert in the fourth,
or Gabe Evans the eighth, or you in the fifth,
about certain votes that kind of raise eyebrows for Jeff
heard from me. It was when he refused to assensure
ilhan Omar wasn't real sure on that one. And we
know that Lauren Bobert's taken he we talked about this,
(26:45):
you and me about her going along with this initial
kind of resolution on the Epstein files, that putting yourself
at odds with Donald Trump. Also on this water bill,
which I want to get your take on as well
in just a moment. But then Representative Gabet and I
want to have you respond to this because I invoked
your name in a conversation with him just before the
Christmas holiday on these trans surgery defunding votes and the
(27:09):
two different bills that were on the floor.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
One was sponsored.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Proposed by Marjorie Taylor Green now she's out of the House,
and the other by Dan Crenshaw. Evans voted at against
the Green bill for the Crenshaw one, and I want
you to hear this and respond to it. You could
have gone along the lines of your fellow Republican congress
members in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Jeff heard Lauren Bobert and Jeff Crank.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And just voted yes on both of them, and you
wouldn't had to deal with all of this. You chose
instead to kind of draw that line that you made
of distinction.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And it makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But from a political standpoint, wouldn't it been just easier.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'll vote yes on this one, and I vote yes
on this one too.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Sure it would have been easier, you know. But I
think that's one of the things that bothers folks about Washington, DC,
is when you have members of Congress that disagree with
a bill, but yeah, you know what, I'm gonna vote
for it, go along to get Alonger the opposite happens.
They think it's a bad excuse me, a good bill,
but they don't want to vote for it. And so
that's you know, I had to have a long, hard
(28:09):
look in the mirror with myself based on.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The twelve years that I spent in the military, the.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Ten years that I spent as a cop, and.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Say, take all of the politics out of this.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
At the end of the day, is it good policy
or bad policy to arrest doctors.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Given that we know there's this other bill that has.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
The same effect, just defunds the procedures preemptively. Are these
good policies or bad policies? And again, this is federal
law we're talking about. Here. This isn't a letter to
the editor or an op ed. This is federal law
that deprives people of you know, life, liberty, and happiness.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And we want to make good decisions in this place.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And so I made the decision because I think you
ought to let your yes B yes, and your no
B no, and if you disagree with the policy, come
back do like we're doing right now. Have the conversation
talked about why you did what you did. But I
can't stand politically expedient votes if somebody doesn't actually agree
with the way they're voting.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Past Representative Gave Evans eighth Congressional Representative Jeff Crank, fifth
Congressional joining us here. He further explained Jeff that he
thought strategically the Crenshaw Bill was more likely to pass
the Senate and get to Trump's desk rather than the
Green Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You voted yes on both of them.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Can you break down where you differ from Representative Evans
on this issue and where your stance is?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Sure, Well, first and foremost, I want you know. The
first thing I'd say is, Gabe Evans is one of
my best friends in Congress. He's a he's a great legislator,
and he's cast tremendous votes. I mean, he has a
very difficult district, as you.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Know, Ryan, but he's one of these members.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
That just goes down and does it. Like on the
One Big Beautiful Bill, he was not the guy asking
for concessions and I need this, mister Speaker, and I
need this. What he went down and he cast what
he knows is going to be a vote that some
on the left are going to beat him up on.
So from that standpoint, Gabe and I, you know, generally
we agree. This is probably the first real vote that
(30:02):
we disagreed on, and he just drew the line somewhere.
It doesn't mean that he's not in favor of, you know,
stopping these these surgeries on children, these mutilation surgeries in
many cases on children. So it's just I think he
looks at it differently about.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Where you do it now.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
I looked at it as, look, if we make something
illegal and a doctor performs it, are we willing to
have teeth behind that? From a federal standpoint, And so
I was a yes on both films. I just think
it's abhorrent that we would allow doctors to do this
to children who are under eighteen. It's a life altering surgery.
(30:40):
It shouldn't be done, and I think the Congress of
the United States has the right to say that and
make that determination. We do it all the time on
other things. So there's a difference there. But you know, overall,
I would say, you know, Gabe and I and Lauren
and Jeffyord probably agree on on you know, ninety to
(31:01):
ninety five percent of the issues, all good warriors supporting
the president. I'm glad that you didn't pick any of
my votes out and say that they were once that
you disagreed with, So I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Ryan Representative Jeff Crank doing solid work in the fifth
Congressional Jeff, you understand the gears of government how they work,
now that you've been there for a little bit in
the sausage factory. So I just want to get your
take from behind the scenes on Represented Lauren Bolbert's bipartisan
co sponsored bill HR one thirty one, the Arkansas Valley
Conduit Act, that was vetoed by President Trump despite strong
(31:36):
majorities in both chambers the House and the Senate. We
saw Senator Michael Bennett Senator John Hickenlooper come out strongly
against the president's veto.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
What do you make of that? How what is the.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Best path forward for Colorado to get its water? Was
this act a bipartisan one one that you supported.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Yeah, it is something that I supported, And I think
I don't agree with the veto of the bill. I
am not someone who is you know. I know that
many of the Democrats in Colorado and elsewhere like to
use it as a point to go after President Trump.
I don't happen to agree with that. I think the
President made a judgment or returnment determination. I don't think
(32:18):
there was any ill will in that determination. He just
decided that he was going to veto the bill for
the reasons that he put out there. But I don't
think all of the information was available to the president.
And here here's my view of it. We ought to
and I'm going to vote to override the president's veto
on that bill. I think it was the veto was
(32:38):
not correct. But if we're able to do it, great.
If we aren't able to do it, we need to
go right back and work with the administration and figure
out a way to get water provided to these citizens
of Colorado. So that ought to be our focus. It
shouldn't be the you know, I know some are two
US Senators and others like to everything the president does
(33:00):
do they want to make it into a political issue.
How about we solve problems and let's try and do this.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I'm going to be with them.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
We're all going to vote, I think in Colorado to
override the veto here. But if it doesn't work, let's
figure out a way to make it work and get
water to these citizens that deserve to have water out
of the Arkansas River.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He does serve on the US House Committee on Natural Resources,
probably serving the fifth District of Colorado. You can follow
him on x at Rep. Jeff Crank. Always great having
conversations with you, Jeff. Thanks for your transparency and thanks
for your.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Time today, Ryan, and thank you for not criticizing me
on a single vote.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Again, I want to emphasize.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That, Ryan, if it comes up, we'll have that conversation.
That's why we love having you on Jeff.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right, we'll take this time out wrap it all
up on Ryan Schuling Live after this time once again
for another edition of Trump's Hot Takes, charting the forty
seven president's epic interactions.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
With a fake news media. My wife, by the way,
I want to be.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
More of a I want to really yeah these subjects.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm trying to get that vote. It's not an easy
vote to get. It's very tough for me to get.
He's on fire.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
He has these bits he rolls out like a stand
up comedian would in a professional realm, and he was
absolutely living it up there with the Republicans yesterday. That'll
do it for me from here for now, inviting us
to join us tomorrow a Friday edition Ryan Schulding Live,
including the Right Side of Hollywood, Christian Toto, and Deborah
Flora right here on six point thirty k
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