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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Friday and Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Total of Hollywood in Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuleing Live.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Before we start the show, I want to let you
know something that I found out just last night. Next
year will be our last season. The network will be
ending the Late Show in May.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
And.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, I share your feelings.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's not just the end of our show, but it's
the end of the Late Show on CBS. I'm not
being replaced. This is all just going away.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And I do want to say.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I do want to say that the folks at CBS.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Have been great partners.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm so grateful to the Tiffany Network for giving me
this chair and this beautiful theater to call home. And
of course I'm grateful to you the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Audience who have joined that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Every night in here, out there, all around the world.
Mister and missus America and all the shifts at sea.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Stephen Colbert loathes Donald Trump. His Late Show became a
rallying point for Trump derangement syndrome. Colbert took over the
show in twenty fifteen, just as Trump came down the
Golden escalator to begin his first presidential campaign. There was
no insult that Colbert wouldn't throw at him, always couched
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in snarky, sarcastic contempt. Well, it's coming to an end.
CBS has announced that the show will close in May
of next year and will not be replaced. The Late
Show franchise is done. His ratings were down during the
Biden presidency. He was lost without Trump to insult. He
stood by silent while Biden was embarrassing America with his
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obvious decline, and when Trump won his second term, Colbert
was devastated. He had misread America before. The whole country
was just like his studio audience, young.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Elite liberals, out of touch.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
He did his best to destroy Trump's first term and
his campaign for a second. When he was convicted on
obviously Trump up chargers in a politically corrupt New York court,
Colbert took great delight in labeling him or a convicted
felon he ran with that night at the night he
was part of the plan to get Trump out of
the race.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And into prison.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He almost giggled when he said it's gonna be the
RNC life from Celbrock b with a keynote speech from
the warden are very funny. He gleefully mocked Trump's Golden
Dome missile defense system. He had a field day with
the Russia Hope story, Canada, Greenland, Elon Musk, the Green
New Deal climate. There was never a single thing that
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Trump said or did that was not met with contempt
from Stephen Colbert. And one of these folks will ever
understand that maybe Trump derangement syndrome had something to do
with Trump's win. Colbe's pure nastiness played a part in
turning our politics toxic. Well, now he's leaving the stage
another Trump win.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
A powerful rebuke from Stuart Varney, of all people Fox Business.
There and you heard the breaking news that Stephen Colbert
dropped on his audience, both in studio and those watching
on television wherever they may be. Christian Toto joins me
solely without the services today unfortunately of Deborah Flora. But
we're here, Mono Imano, yours truly, Ryan schuling along with
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him on the right side of Hollywood. He has written
an article at Hollywood intoto dot com on this very topic,
and it leads our discussion here today. Christian reaction to
it happening in the first place, and the factors that
Stuart Varney cited there as to why the show failed.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
It's shocking to me. I didn't think this was happening. Listen,
There's a lot of things you could say about the
late night landscape. The ratings are much smaller than ever
used to be, that's for sure, But given that situation,
he was the top. Now let's put aside Gottfeld. He
comes on an hour plus earlier. It's Fox versus broadcast.
Gottfeld does have bigger numbers. But as far as Jimmy Fallon,
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Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Myers, you know the Daily Show, Colbert
was on top and has been on top for years now,
So there's that. There's also the fact that it came
out of the blue. And as we're learning, just for
me earlier today, the Late Show Enterprise was losing money
hand over fist. Puck News just said that the show
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loses forty million dollars for CBS a year, So that
just asked the question, why do.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
They have it on in the first place. It has
changed the appeal of this format over the years. But
I believe there are specific reasons for that, and we'll
get into those as well. This is a tell to me.
And the thing is those on the left, they don't
even get it. They cannot get out of their own heads,
They cannot get out of their their own echo chambers
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and spheres to look at things from the outside. How
does someone like you and our listening audience, someone like Christian,
someone like myself perceive these shows to be. Do they
have mass broad appeal? And if not, why not? Well
all you have to do is look at those in
Washington on Capitol Hill who are up in arms over this.
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And I'm giving you one hint. None of them are
coming from the right.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
The move, as you can hear, drew surprise and anger
from his audience and from Democratic lawmakers too, who are
now demanding answers. In a statement, Senator Elizabeth Warren said
the cancelation came just three days after the host slamm
CBS's owner Paramount for its settlement with Trump, and called
it a deal that looked like bribery, But in their
own statement, CBS called it purely financial a decision against
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a challenging backdrop in Late Night.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It is not related in.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
Any way to the show's performance, content, or other matters
happening at Paramount.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Ellie Hoenig is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Back with us at the table.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
I guess it's not surprising that people don't buy it
to a degree, but really because of the history here
with Trump and these media companies and their desire to
not get on his bad side, and also their history.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Of paying him.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Now, let's back up a step who made this all
about Trump?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Didn't have to.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Nobody forced Stephen Colbert's hand. He didn't have to go
in on Trump. You could mention Trump. You go back
to even when his predecessor, David Letterman, who is now
very overtly political and he's of the left, he hates Trump.
But during his show, The Late Show on CBS, which
I recall back in ninety three and through the two thousands,
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Letterman wasn't overtly political.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Jay Leno certainly wasn't.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
And the guy he replaced while you're here from in
just a moment, Johnny Carson, the King of Late Night,
wasn't at all and he had a reason for that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But to Abby Phillips, point.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Here's Elie Hoeniggs, CNN legal expert, and I think he's
a straight shooter. He'll call a spatis, he'll call balls
and strikes. But listen very carefully, because Chris, you may
have heard this. I had a conversation with Steven L.
Miller read Steeze on a show yesterday and his disdain
and inability to stomach or watch, or tolerate or endure
Abbie Phillip. And you're going to hear why because friend
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of the program Scott Jennings inserts a very cogent point
and she has to steam roll them on that because
we can't have that happening around here.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So two initial reactions to this.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Number one, what on earth is Congress doing wasting their
time on this? And CBS is a private industry. If
they want to give AOC the show, god bless them.
If they want to go Fox News, god bless them.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They're private.
Speaker 11 (07:41):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
First Amendment, Congress.
Speaker 10 (07:43):
If Democrats, if Elizabeth Warren, they go down this road,
what an utter.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We don't know why they're mad about it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, who was even on the show tonight?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
And it will shift these shows.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Democrat Holbert and the rest of them have become nothing
but anti Trump fever.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Swap let me with them. I guess everything.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 12 (08:01):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Why did Abby Phillips step all over Scott Jennings there?
She didn't do that to Elie Honik. I think there's
some jealousy setting in because the only ratings they get
on her program on CNN are because of Scott Jennings.
And to his point, who was the guest on this
final show before the announcement was made one of the
most controversial, polarizing, divisive members of the entire Congress Pencil,
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Nick Adam Schiff, And listen to him here, I wonder,
I wonder why this show doesn't get the ratings that
Gutfeld does and doesn't have that crossover appeal. Let's see,
as somebody of the right, like myself, or Christian or yourself,
how do you respond to this?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What is this? What are we hearing right here?
Speaker 13 (08:43):
The President, as you know, has been going after me
within the last couple of days, ever since I let
his first impeachment.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
He's threatened me with.
Speaker 13 (08:51):
Jail and prosecution and called me a trader, excuse me,
a treat and blah blah blah, he coursed Republicans in
the centrum in the House, and now the latest attack
on me. So I just want to direct this.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If this is the.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
Right camera or maybe that's the right camera camera there, Donald.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Piss off.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
And the crowd goes wild. Compare the ratings that let's
say Colbert got last night. So if if he had
had just a mild door open, a nudge for President
Trump himself to come on.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That show, you know what the ratings would be like
for that show.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
And by the way, Adam Schiff is enduring a pretty
severe investigation about mortgage fraud chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Anyway, Christian, what was that? What do we just hear there?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
That's what the show has been for the last eight
years maybe more. It's just a DNC platform. The jokes
all go one way. There's don't There's a reason why
the term clapter is suddenly in the vernacular, and it's
because it Stephen Colbert. He is the king of clapter.
It's really a shame and I even rostored it. But
this a few months ago. How the Daily Beast, which
is a pretty far left outfit, they said in their
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podcast that Stephen Colbert is no longer funny that's just it.
He's just no longer funny because the funny is not
the purpose. That's the whole thing about entertainment in Hollywood,
certainly during the woke era, and specifically about these late
night shows. It is not about entertaining. It is not
about making you smile as you drift off to sleep.
It is about political partisanship. That's what It's all about. Divisiveness, anger, rage.
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And you know, I've been sampling Gutfield quite a bit lately,
and that show is certainly to the right, there's no
question about it. The jokes mostly lean that way, but
they do hit their own side from time to time,
and it's much more joyful. It's about conversation. It's about
snarking at each other. I mean, those hosts and co
hosts are actually harder on each other than anyone else.
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It's fun. It's a reverend. It feels like a breath
of fresh air. There's nothing fresh about Colbert and now
he's going away.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Gutfeld is my favorite show, not just in late night,
but the one that I go to to watch, you know,
for a light moment, for Greg's tremendous talent and weaving
in the four panelists, and especially when he picks on
our good friend Jamie Lisso and says his name incorrectly.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Ad Christian's article about all of this you can read at.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Hollywood intoto dot com entitled are these Stephen Colbert's worst
late show Moments? Well, I've got one of those in
just a little bit. But let's stay on task as
to why this happened. A lot of speculation about it.
It's Brian Stelter, CNN brands impersonations good.
Speaker 14 (11:18):
From the optics standpoint. The timing could not be worse
for CBS. Colbert is such an outspoken Trump critic, He's
just back from vacation, and as he showed there on
Monday on his first night back from vacation, he's also
a thorn in his parent company's side. So this looks
to a lot of Colbert's fans like another form of
capitulation by CBS to the President of United States.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
And not just to his fans, of which I am
not one. I used to be Colbert rapport. I liked
that show when he kind of mimicked Bill O'Reilly. That
was smart, that was snarky, that was funny. He turned
it to himself and I don't like this guy. But
to Stelter's point, he's right. The timing is interesting to
say the least CBS paramount just got slapped with that
lawsuit because again, they're obsessed with Trump, the Trump Arrangement centerment.
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It funnels in, and it focuses in, and it fuels
all of their motivations. So they had to edit the
Kamala Harrison interview deceptively because they wanted to make her
look good and they couldn't afford to make her look
bad and do anything that would help Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And this is the downward spiral.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Yeah, what's often not said about that whole imbrolio was
they had a transcript of that interview and they wouldn't
release it. I think they released it a few months ago,
but that was well after the election. So between the
obvious deceptive edits and the lack of a transcript, and
the fact that they often will share transcripts with other
big interviews with political figures, it's stunk.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It just stunk. They got caught.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
And one of the things about the Trump era, which
is spectacular, is that he calls people out, he holds
them accountable. When ABC News is saying he's a rapist.
He's a rapist. He sues them and he wins, or
they settle or whether you know, he fights back to
a night's library. So it's Trump being to fight back.
And there are things about Trump I don't like. We
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can go through that, that's the story for other day.
But his willingness to CounterPunch. His willingness is not just
sit there and take it is what people on the
right need, and just people who are fair in decent
need don't just sit there and take it. Fight back,
otherwise it gets worse.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
My whole point is, if Trump's so bad, why do
you have to make things up exactly and spin things
and edit things.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And Rupert Murdock's about to get his ass sued.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
That's direct quote from Donald Trump, and rightfully so, because
the stupid Wall Street Journal decided they were going to
run with a cartoon that they allege Donald Trump drew,
which they refuse to show or share with the President.
To respond to that, he says he doesn't writing cartoons.
It's not his language, his love language or whatever, and
that he sent this to Jeffrey Epstein. They reported this
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is fact. They're going to get sued. Trump's going to win.
The library is going to get another layer of gold
in it, and did Christian. I will go visit it
as it sets up shop. But here on the issue
of the business itself. John Hyloman, NBC News, And this
will lead me to the money quote that we're going
to hear from the all time great Johnny Carson.
Speaker 15 (14:03):
I think there's a consensus in the television business that
this generation of late night hosts Stephen, Jimmy, Jimmy and
Seth Myers, we're going to be the last. That they
would not that the economics for the reasons you were
talking about, because so much of the revenue and the
viewership is now moving into social platforms, not.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
To YouTube, and got that you wouldn't you wouldn't.
Speaker 15 (14:28):
Find us a successor to any of those guys. This
would be the last generation in those traditional seats.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
But why did it have to be this way, Christian,
I would pause it. No, it didn't have to be
this way.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
I would say, maybe only because there's so many other
changing elements within this landscape. Because you've got YouTubers who
can go faster, have smaller budgets. But it's also when
you start out, you say to half the country, go
fly at Kyrie. Yeah, you have done yourself an incredible disservice.
They have said, go away. And even Jimmy Fallon, who
is less political, less angry, more kind of cutesy, more
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musical numbers watch his monologue.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
It is to the left, absolutely like ironclad. That's just
who he is. And so that's pushing them away too.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
What is one of Jimmy Fallon's most memorable episodes. It's
when Donald Trump was on and he must up his hair,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Happy next.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I know he caught a lot of help, but you
know what he should have done? Christian lean right into
that and go, yeah, so what, I'm a comedian.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I do funny things.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Donald Trump's a funny guy, and he could a counter
program to everything else that's going on over here with
Kimmel and Seth Myers and Colbert, and he didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And so what does he do?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
He just folds in and he ranks like, you know,
fourth or whatever it is on all these other guys
that are singing out of the same hymnal. So we
go to the great Johnny Carson and Mike Wallace sixty
minutes asked him really about this very topic, and we're
going back. This is like seventies or eighties when Johnny
was in his prime and just listened to the genius
of his response.
Speaker 16 (15:53):
People say he'll never take a serious controversy. Well I
have an answer to that. I said, no, tell me
the last time that Jack Benny red Skelton, Benny comedian
used his show to do serious issues.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But you and I do.
Speaker 16 (16:13):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal with serious issues.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
That's a danger.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's a real danger.
Speaker 16 (16:21):
Once you start that, do you start to forget that
self important feeling. That's what you say has great import
and you know, strangely enough, you could use that show
as a form you could sway people, and I don't
think you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Thirty seasons, this show lasted, and how prescient were those
words in that moment.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
It's shocking, is like you could say he could have
spoken those words yesterday.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, Yeah, he was right. He's the best.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Johnny Carson the King of Late Night for a reason.
And again, it was a different era. People had four
television stations on their sets. They didn't have alternatives like
social media like you mentioned YouTube. But I just think
that Guttfelds reinvented it. It's more of a panel. Oh
there is a studio audience, but they go through topics.
It moves pretty good pace. I think there was a
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way to do this Christian and I think these comedians
they were so hell bent on making Trump their kind
of straw man for everything that that got old. And
I would tell you this, I've talked to people that
are on the left. They get sick of it too,
and it's no longer funny because that's just the same
note over and over.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I can't imagine enjoying that show, even like I said,
for our friends and left, of just sitting there and saying, oh,
I can't wait to see what he has to say,
because you know exactly what he has to say. You
know the angles, you know the arguments, you know the pitch,
you know the outrage. It's every single night. And during
the Biden years, he just told a few jokes about
oh Biden is old and he uses old timey words.
Isn't that adorable? Instead of saying, my gosh, this president
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doesn't look like he's all there and maybe we should
do something about it. Because I'm a satirist and I
speak truth to power. He doesn't. He actually does a hunt.
He hosted a fundraiser for Colbert. Biden saw him up
close and said nothing. As for Jimmy Kimmel, by the way,
Jimmy Kimmel is the next shoot drop. His contract is
definitely coming up in the quasi in near future. He's
been a little fuzzy about it. There's no way that
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ABC is going to sign him. I just, I just
it's almost impossible.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Bold hot take from Christian Toto And speaking of that,
will have a hot take from President Trump one of
our installments of that coming up in just a little bit.
Here's one more example. Stephen Colbert one of his worst moments,
kind of under the radar. But I saw this pop
up on my feed on X Claire Danes coming in
and talking about a project she was working on and
kind of embedding with the intelligence community. And then it
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got into kind of a sticky wicket, and Colbert really
wanted to change the subject.
Speaker 17 (18:36):
My camp for US producers and writers and really yeah, yeah,
So we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and
talk to like real spooks and you know, people in
the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and
people who really.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
What do they tell you that Like, what's the most
surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or
something you would need to.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, every year it's different, right that for a while,
and the climate has been has changed. But this year
it was all about, you know, the distrust between the
administration and the intelligence world, and the intelligence community was
suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually start
shooting this episode.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
That topic. I mean, that's God, that's glaring, right, glaring.
I'm surprised a big hook didn't come out and drag
her off the stage.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Du You know, people criticize me, I'm a gen x there,
I'm stuck in my ways. I'm old and cadre like
my grandpa, maybe a little bit, But you can't tell
me that the Helcionic days of Johnny Carson as wistful
as we may be, and I know I'm stuck in nostalgia.
But there's a reason why Johnny Carson worked, there's a
reason why Leno and Letterman even worked. And where this
change was made, in my view, was an Obama was
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elected he could.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Not be touched. Kid Gloves couldn't go down that road.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
And then Trump comes in and the pendulum swung the
other way. And that's where we saw at the beginning
of the end for this type of franchise. Rip The
Late Show with Stephen Colbert or anyone else for that matter.
With Christian Tooto Hollywood and Tooto dot Com. I'm Ryan Schuling.
We went and saw a movie the other night. It
really kind of blew our sacks off, but not necessarily
in a good way. We'll talk about that and our
nominees for our Friday Fool of the Week still to
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come here on the right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
Do you know how many people Barack Obama deported in
eight years.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm sure you're going to tell me, well, what do
you guess? I don't know, and don't care.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
You don't know and you don't care. I'm trying to
finish my sentence. You've just given me a lengthy monologue
attacking Donald Trump's the aggressive deportation policy, and I've simply
said to you, there was a Democrat, a black Democrat,
president of the United States for eight years. I'm simply asking,
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given that you're obviously all over every d tale of
the Trump deportation policy and giving you on the airwaves
in America on a daily basis through Obama's tenure. How
many people did he deport in eight years?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I do not know. You'll tell me. I'm fad I'm
sure again it was probably more than a million people.
I'm quite certain. I think each two million, it was
three million. Okay, at your point being, what.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
My point being, are you as shocked by that as
you are claiming to be by Trump?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It is not deportation of them?
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Wait a minute, the majority, well Brown, my goodness, Joy Read,
talk about your all time backfires with Pierce Morgan.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
They're just leveling her and exposing her.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Really, Christians, we get to our Friday Fool of the
Week segment, Joy Read, our first nominee. She's a repeat
offender in this regard. But it's just again reveals to
me the surface level knowledge. But then also kind of
that tin can just kind of going off popping off.
Trump deportation's bad, But Obama, who called himself I believe
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at one point the deporter in chief three million deportations,
of which I applaud you. The gal aliens, you're here.
You don't have to you don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here, get out. Why do they
only matter when Trump deports them? But same people, same
in the cities, same motivation. I think in a lot
of ways, they don't matter at all. For joy Read,
she doesn't care how many Obama deport.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Why if Trump said the sky was blue, she would
have an hour long segment saying it's not. It's very
It sounds cartoonish, it sounds like a silly thing to say.
But almost any position that he takes is the wrong position.
It could be celebrating a young child who's been battling cancer.
It could be mourning the loss of a person and
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comforting that person's mother in her time of grief. No
matter what Trump does, they do the opposite, They claim
the opposite, they shriek the opposite. And but this is
really about, though, is that the joy Read to the
world are never challenged, never questioned, Nope, are never forced
to really back up their arguments. They don't have to
defend themselves in a way that's consequential. So then when
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appears Morgan, who is not a conservative, but it's sort
of a fair mind, did he get a bounce between
the left and right. But he asks a very simple,
plain direct question that has consequences. She not only can
she answer, she wants to shuffle off the question right away.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
I'm sure you're gonna tell me. If it were Trump,
you'd be telling me. So why do you know those
details but not these? Over here? Joy read our first
nominee Friday Fool the week.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You can vote. Your vote matters, one person, one vote.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
We don't stuff the ballot box, we don't cheat elections
here five seven seven three nine. Representative Jeanie rask In
a similar scenario. Yeah, he goes on what he feels
is a friendly program. It's Joe Scarborough Morning Joe MSNBC.
Friendly to DEM's Joe at one time was a rhino
kind of moderate Republican representing Florida in the US House.
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And he actually stumbles upon some journalism here. He goes, wait,
Epstein files, Okay, they've been around for a while. In fact,
Democrats controlled the White House and portions of Congress through
from twenty one to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Why didn't you go ahead and release them?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Then?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Representative Raskin, why.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
Didn't Democrats call far from twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 18 (24:19):
Five, So I mean you have to go back and
look specifically at particular prosecutorial decisions and what was taking
place in terms of the other cases. So I don't know,
we could try to reconstruct that record. But the point
is is that Donald Trump is the one who has
led the crusade to say that Epstein, who was his
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very close friend, and there's all kinds of pictures of
them and so on, that Epstein was at the center
of this broad conspiracy. He's now in a position to
do exactly what he demanded, which.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Was to release all of the files.
Speaker 18 (24:57):
And so why is that not happenings That's the question
I can't answer for Merrick Garland or any of you know,
anybody else in the Department of Justice.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Huh. Joff Garbo sounds sad that he asked the question.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
By the way, he tripped up his fellow traveler and
he said, darn it, what did I just do?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
He feels terrible. He can you can hear the sadness
in his voice.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
What Raskin does There is two to four sentences of gobletbook.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
He's stalling, He's trying to find his footing.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
So he's piecing these bizarre phrases together into QUASEI sentences
that mean nothing, and then he pivots to Trump bad.
He's a very close friend of Jeffrey Epstein, which is
obviously not tripe. Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean it really is.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And again Coud flat footed didn't expect a question that would.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Actually challenge him.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Friday Fool the Week nominees continue. Representative Jamie raskin number two.
Joy read the first one with Christian Toto and Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We roll on.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
It's what a Scott MacFarlane CBS News, a serious news reporter,
and he had this take on the one year anniversary
of the attempted assassination of President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
For those of us there, it was such a horror
because you saw.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
An emerging America.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
And it wasn't the shooting, Chuck, this was I got
diagnosed with PTSD within forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have put on trauma leave.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Not because I think of the shooting, but because you
could you saw it in the eyes, the reaction to
the people.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
They were coming for us. If he didn't jump up
with his fist, they were going to come.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Kick I know President Trump nearly took one to the brain.
It just missed grazed his ear. But won't someone think
of the journalists Christian that were there that were scared
of the Trump supporters.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
My god, man, that bullet clipped that guy's ego and
it has never been the same.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I mean the fact he needed trauma, leave the fact
that he was PTSD. And again, not because he was
in a shooting situation, which is legitimate situation that would
scare me too, I'd be rocked by that, but because
because someone in the crowd looked at him and said, yeah,
you guys really made as possible. And I hate to
say it, they did make it possible. Their their rhetoric,
their rage, their fake news, their nonsense. There he's hitler,
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He's hitler. They have made that environment. And I hate
saying that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Because I'm a free free.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Speech guy, because I want journalism to be good and
strong and true. But you can't live in America for
the last x amount of years and not realize that
they have set the stage for this man.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They just have just have President Trump, who was actually shot. Okay,
let's follow this up.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Do you think President Trump was diagnosed with PTSD or
put on trauma leave.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So he stood up, he raised his fists, he shouted, fight, fight, fight.
You and I were there together down in Colorado Springs
when this happened. By the way, he will rank back
on the campaign trail. Yeah, okay, okay, Scott my firelock.
I actually have a question for you quickly.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Didn't he say wear my shoes?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
That part of it, right, because I'm pretty sure it
was Ellen Bark And the actress was mocking that recently
on No.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
And they say that that is actually a response to
trauma and that moment that you're trying to focus on
things that you can control when all that can troll's
been taken away from you. It's a fascinating thing. And
you're right, No, I mean my shoes, my shoes.
Speaker 18 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
I think part of what he said to after was
he he could think in that moment, Christian that he
didn't want to be embarrassed by not having his shoes
on or walking away from that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He was cognizant of that.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
I mean, that's amazing to me, amazing how President Trump
responded to that. Truly, So, Seth, that's not Seth Scott
McFarlane CBS. It's not stuff we like. Seth another nomine
and I got to say that's that might be an
all timer.
Speaker 18 (28:28):
PAULA.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Kerger though PBS president defund public broadcasting. Folks, it finally
happened after Republicans Conservatives, well, we need to do fun
public broadcasting, the Corporation for Public broad and they never
did it. Republicans give Mike Johnson credit, give John Thune credit,
give President Trump credit. They just did it. Make it
on your own sink or swim PBS and NPR. But
(28:50):
Paul Kirker says that I don't know what they're talking about,
you know, mister Rogers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
She hides behind a little animal.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I don't think that Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood is a bias
program that teaches children basic skills around letters and numbers.
And when you look at the breadth of programming that
we are very much committed to serving all of America.
The news programming that we do represents about ten percent
of our broadcast schedule, and that includes the News Hour,
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which I'm very proud of the excellence of the journalism
of that series.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
So I would push back.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
I always ask them for examples. People often struggle to
come up with examples of what really they're talking about?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Can you struggle for examples of bias from MPR, PBS? Christian?
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I struggle so many. I don't know how many I
should choose in anyone given moment. I want to pick
the strongest one. I don't want to give the B material.
I want the A plus material. By the way, who's
she asking that question to homeless people on the street?
Excuse me, sir, you look like you're a wise consumer.
What do you think about PBS and it's bias? Who
is she asking that question?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:55):
It is such a strawmand doesn't even begin to describe it.
And also these outl they're going to have that person on,
they should have a rebuttal, they should have some sort
of balance.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
They should have.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Red Steve, Steven L. Miller or Drew Holden. I mean,
there are so many people who could spend the next
sixteen hours describing the extreme bias of MPR and PBS,
and they won't do it because they can't because they know,
look at the answer.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
They don't want.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Paula Kerger, PBS president of they're nomine fool of the
Week and the aforementioned Drew Holden Stephen L.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Miller. You hear those two his guests on this program,
that's what we do here.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
And then finally, our own governor, in an interview with
Kyle Clark talking about the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary
bridge to Nowhere, he decides he's going to put on
an online poll.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
But why now?
Speaker 19 (30:38):
Is this what you should have done months ago before
you announced that you were going forward with a bridge.
Well we couldn't because there was no bridge for people
to vote on, right, So I mean it has to
be in sequence. The people would have not known we
were what we were talking about had we done this
three months ago, because there was no visuals, there was
no projects. So thanks to that, which is all very recent.
This is all what about a month or two people
(31:00):
have been out there. People have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know, it's great.
Speaker 19 (31:03):
You go down to corner bar, people say they love it,
people say they hey it, it's great. People are feeling
ownership and passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So what does that all mean and how do we
kind of decipher that into whether we do this or not?
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Christian fact check You and I may very well, go
to the corner bar this evening. Jd' spight shot my
favorite on a Rappaho, watchs and Tigers, watch some Yankees.
If we were to go to the bar there and
saddle up and turn to our fellow patrons and ask them,
what do you think about the Jared Polish vanity project
with the bridge yea or name?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
How many would even know what we're talking about?
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Oh boy, maybe you'd ask about meg It and Harry,
but get more answers that way.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
But Polist claims this is all the talk of the town,
the corner bar, cheers everything else.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's it's it's on the tip of everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, it really is, and I hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Take the online survey, by the way, and send Polis
packing on this one. So those are your nominees, Joy Read,
Scott McFarlane, Representative, Jennie Raskin, Paula Kergerbs President, and Jared Poulis,
Governor of Colorado. Cuff trice Is will get Christians vote,
Kelly's vote, my vote. When we come back, I gotta
submit mine for all of you five seven seven three
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nine for you to chime in. Will close out the
right side of Hollywood for this week.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
After this.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Here, I got a call into the office about studies.
Speaker 13 (32:21):
Last night, the family was murdered, shootors on tribal ground.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is a Pueblo case. This is our crimes. Here,
get out of here. I'm running from there. Damas Camp.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Your own office going, but you're gonna run mine.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
There your streets to keep faithor.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Ted Garcia the man is simply keep shut this bitch, huck.
You want things simple and neat.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
There was some allegations made, allegations like what you were
in his house?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, here's a quote from you arm yourself. I don't
mean literal arms. I have motive. Oh we need haven't you?
Speaker 5 (32:54):
People are going to be looking here now. He's aggressive,
he's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He needs to be locked up.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Maybe he's pass mind this all time. We are in
a fight against evil.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
That is Eddington. Then, Christian and I just watched this
the other night. I think if we were Cisco and Ebert,
we might have a split verdict on this one. But
christ you just your reaction to that trailer, what that
represents in the context of the film that we watched.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
It's accurate and misleading.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Okay, that stuff's in there, but the flow of the
film really doesn't represent that. Now I have to say
I feel badly for the marketing team behind this movie.
This is a very, very tough sell, and I think
the box office predictions are terrible for this weekend for Eddington. Really,
I get it. It's all over the place. It covers
twenty twenty a part of our recent history that I
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didn't want to relive, honestly, about BLM protests, about COVID
mandate lockdowns, masking up all that stuff, That's what this
is via a small New Mexico town going through the
worst of it. So having said all that, I found
the first half or third really brisk, funny, challenging, dark,
(34:13):
and while deeply political, it was a political to me
because I think the director Ari Aster is hitting all sides.
He's showing that he's just doing the best he can
to put it all out there, and I really felt he.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Was a neutral party, which I think helps the movie immensely.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
The movie is Eddington. It's set in I believe, a
fictional town of Eddington, New Mexico, but it mentions Governor
Luhan by name, somebody that Michael Brown Despises and his
visits to the undisclosed location in Taos. I just disclosed it.
Joaquin Phoenix plays the local sheriff, Pedro Pascal plays the
local mayor. Emma Stone plays the very disturbed wife of
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the sheriff. There's a lot of interesting dynamics at play here.
I thought Joaquin Phoenix was fantastic, by the way, and
I want to draw a delineation between did I like
the film? Did I like the effort was made by
the director in how he constructed the film. That answer
is yes. Was I pleased with how it ended or
where it went in the third act?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
No?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I was just like Christian, it lost me and then
it's like, what the hell is happening here? Don't want
to give any spoilers out there, but I thought is
it worth the watch? And I'm going to answer that
with yes, because of the first act that Christian and
I agree was very good and it attacks that entire time,
and in a way it was kind of cathartic therapeutic
because you got to watch this and watch how ridiculous
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mask mandates were. Social distancing was the mayor Pedro Pascal.
He's pushing for all the and why we've got to
follow the rules.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
What do I mean rules? These are out laws. People
have rights.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
That's what Joaquin Phoenix's character, the sheriff says, And that's
kind of our perspective on things that's represented, and the
whole notion that you can stop a virus with a
mask if only the other person's wearing a mask.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That was a scene in a grocery store.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
And it's exposed for how absolutely positively ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I enjoyed that part of it. Christian I did too.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I think we're actually more on the same page, and
they think one thing that was maddening to me, even
though you and I laughed a lot and we're just
awkwardly funny.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
You know, there are still some people who believe much
of the rhetoric in that film that was spoken by
the Pedro pascals of the film.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I just can't believe that. It's the six feet, it's
the masks.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You still see people wearing masks.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Oh yeah, absolutely, It's just stunning. So in that way,
it's sad. Not the film's fault, it's reality's fault. But
I just we lost our minds. We just lost our minds,
and especially the young people in the movie who looked
so tortured, so sad, so desperate for something, you know what.
They were locked down, their lives were disrupted in an
aggressive fashion, and I have a lot of sympathy for
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them as well.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'll say it this way. I don't think this is
a spoiler.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Everything's kind of going the Sheriff's way on the COVID mandates,
and people are liking him because he's pushing for freedom
and individual rights and you can't mask people up and
prevent them from shopping and living their day to day
lives and eating food. There's a really touching scene along
those lines. But it all turns when the young people
in town start protesting about the George Floyd death and
(37:06):
the reaction to that, and the film takes a turn there,
and it takes you out another turn after that, and
then at the end it takes a really dark turn,
a lot of turns, a lot of turns, So buckle up,
and I would say it's worth the watch. That would
be me in the theater up to you if you
want to wait for it to come out on a video.
That might be the ultimate verdict right there, that's Eddington
just released in theaters. Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal and Emma Stone. Finally,
(37:28):
Christian your vote for Friday Fool of the Week on
a narrow this field down?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Oh it's a tough one.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
It's between two, Okay, I will say for sure, the
joy Read is classic epic.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I mean, she's a chronic winner in this category.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Scott McFarland with his PTSD and for the reasons he's
citing PTSD.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I don't want to diminish PTSD, it's a.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Real thing, but his rationale, Wow, just wow, Kelly, who
you got?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Well you can't vote for the same one. We need
three here, So who's your second place?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Who's the idiot?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, that doesn't narrow it down unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Okay, you know the Congressman.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Rot Raskin, Okay, put you down for Representative Jamie Rasking
and called out by Joe Scarborough. And just because I
once worked in public radio, it's just especially delicious for
me this week that Paula Kerger, PBS president, tries to
hide behind Daniel Tiger and has no idea why people
think public broadcasting is biased one way or the other.
Well sink or swim find out for yourselves. Rely on
(38:30):
your coastal liberal elite turtleneck sweater wearing viewers and listeners
like you that donate and see if you can make
it on that and maybe underwriters too. So those are
your final nominees. Scott McFarlane CBS News claimed he had
PTSD from being at the Butler assassination and that he
was put on trauma leave and that the Trump the
(38:51):
supporters they were coming for him. They're blaming him. What
about Scott McFarlane, what about the poor journalists?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
President Trump got shot? Yea, yeah, okay, we'll talk about
that later.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
And Jamie Raskin fumbling around when Joe Scarborough asked why
didn't then the Dems call for the Epstein files to
be released when Biden was president? Didn't have a good answer,
And the aforementioned Paula Kerger Christian, thank you always for
joining me on the right side of Hollywood and for
all of you you can vote five, seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Second hour, straight ahead.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Kelly Caucerra slides into the shotgun chair. We'll have plenty
more for you on Ryan Schuling Live after this
It's Friday and Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Total of Hollywood in Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuleing Live.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Before we start the show, I want to let you
know something that I found out just last night. Next
year will be our last season. The network will be
ending the Late Show in May.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
And.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, I share your feelings.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's not just the end of our show, but it's
the end of the Late Show on CBS. I'm not
being replaced. This is all just going away.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And I do want to say.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I do want to say that the folks at CBS.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Have been great partners.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm so grateful to the Tiffany Network for giving me
this chair and this beautiful theater to call home. And
of course I'm grateful to you the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Audience who have joined that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Every night in here, out there, all around the world.
Mister and missus America and all the shifts at sea.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Stephen Colbert loathes Donald Trump. His Late Show became a
rallying point for Trump derangement syndrome. Colbert took over the
show in twenty fifteen, just as Trump came down the
Golden escalator to begin his first presidential campaign. There was
no insult that Colbert wouldn't throw at him, always couched
(01:34):
in snarky, sarcastic contempt. Well, it's coming to an end.
CBS has announced that the show will close in May
of next year and will not be replaced. The Late
Show franchise is done. His ratings were down during the
Biden presidency. He was lost without Trump to insult. He
stood by silent while Biden was embarrassing America with his
(01:56):
obvious decline, and when Trump won his second term, Colbert
was devastated. He had misread America before. The whole country
was just like his studio audience, young.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Elite liberals, out of touch.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
He did his best to destroy Trump's first term and
his campaign for a second. When he was convicted on
obviously Trump up chargers in a politically corrupt New York court,
Colbert took great delight in labeling him or a convicted
felon he ran with that night at the night he
was part of the plan to get Trump out of
the race.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And into prison.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He almost giggled when he said it's gonna be the
RNC life from Celbrock b with a keynote speech from
the warden are very funny. He gleefully mocked Trump's Golden
Dome missile defense system. He had a field day with
the Russia Hope story, Canada, Greenland, Elon Musk, the Green
New Deal climate. There was never a single thing that
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Trump said or did that was not met with contempt
from Stephen Colbert. And one of these folks will ever
understand that maybe Trump derangement syndrome had something to do
with Trump's win. Colbe's pure nastiness played a part in
turning our politics toxic. Well, now he's leaving the stage
another Trump win.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
A powerful rebuke from Stuart Varney, of all people Fox Business.
There and you heard the breaking news that Stephen Colbert
dropped on his audience, both in studio and those watching
on television wherever they may be. Christian Toto joins me
solely without the services today unfortunately of Deborah Flora. But
we're here, Mono Imano, yours truly, Ryan schuling along with
(03:33):
him on the right side of Hollywood. He has written
an article at Hollywood intoto dot com on this very topic,
and it leads our discussion here today. Christian reaction to
it happening in the first place, and the factors that
Stuart Varney cited there as to why the show failed.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
It's shocking to me. I didn't think this was happening. Listen,
There's a lot of things you could say about the
late night landscape. The ratings are much smaller than ever
used to be, that's for sure, But given that situation,
he was the top. Now let's put aside Gottfeld. He
comes on an hour plus earlier. It's Fox versus broadcast.
Gottfeld does have bigger numbers. But as far as Jimmy Fallon,
(04:11):
Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Myers, you know the Daily Show, Colbert
was on top and has been on top for years now,
So there's that. There's also the fact that it came
out of the blue. And as we're learning, just for
me earlier today, the Late Show Enterprise was losing money
hand over fist. Puck News just said that the show
(04:34):
loses forty million dollars for CBS a year, So that
just asked the question, why do.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
They have it on in the first place. It has
changed the appeal of this format over the years. But
I believe there are specific reasons for that, and we'll
get into those as well. This is a tell to me.
And the thing is those on the left, they don't
even get it. They cannot get out of their own heads,
They cannot get out of their their own echo chambers
(05:01):
and spheres to look at things from the outside. How
does someone like you and our listening audience, someone like Christian,
someone like myself perceive these shows to be. Do they
have mass broad appeal? And if not, why not? Well
all you have to do is look at those in
Washington on Capitol Hill who are up in arms over this.
(05:22):
And I'm giving you one hint. None of them are
coming from the right.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
The move, as you can hear, drew surprise and anger
from his audience and from Democratic lawmakers too, who are
now demanding answers. In a statement, Senator Elizabeth Warren said
the cancelation came just three days after the host slamm
CBS's owner Paramount for its settlement with Trump, and called
it a deal that looked like bribery, But in their
own statement, CBS called it purely financial a decision against
(05:50):
a challenging backdrop in Late Night.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It is not related in.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
Any way to the show's performance, content, or other matters
happening at Paramount.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Ellie Hoenig is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Back with us at the table.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
I guess it's not surprising that people don't buy it
to a degree, but really because of the history here
with Trump and these media companies and their desire to
not get on his bad side, and also their history.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Of paying him.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Now, let's back up a step who made this all
about Trump?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Didn't have to.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Nobody forced Stephen Colbert's hand. He didn't have to go
in on Trump. You could mention Trump. You go back
to even when his predecessor, David Letterman, who is now
very overtly political and he's of the left, he hates Trump.
But during his show, The Late Show on CBS, which
I recall back in ninety three and through the two thousands,
(06:41):
Letterman wasn't overtly political.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Jay Leno certainly wasn't.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
And the guy he replaced while you're here from in
just a moment, Johnny Carson, the King of Late Night,
wasn't at all and he had a reason for that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But to Abby Phillips, point.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Here's Elie Hoeniggs, CNN legal expert, and I think he's
a straight shooter. He'll call a spatis, he'll call balls
and strikes. But listen very carefully, because Chris, you may
have heard this. I had a conversation with Steven L.
Miller read Steeze on a show yesterday and his disdain
and inability to stomach or watch, or tolerate or endure
Abbie Phillip. And you're going to hear why because friend
(07:16):
of the program Scott Jennings inserts a very cogent point
and she has to steam roll them on that because
we can't have that happening around here.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So two initial reactions to this.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Number one, what on earth is Congress doing wasting their
time on this? And CBS is a private industry. If
they want to give AOC the show, god bless them.
If they want to go Fox News, god bless them.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They're private.
Speaker 11 (07:41):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
First Amendment, Congress.
Speaker 10 (07:43):
If Democrats, if Elizabeth Warren, they go down this road,
what an utter.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We don't know why they're mad about it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, who was even on the show tonight?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
And it will shift these shows.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Democrat Holbert and the rest of them have become nothing
but anti Trump fever.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Swap let me with them. I guess everything.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 12 (08:01):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Why did Abby Phillips step all over Scott Jennings there?
She didn't do that to Elie Honik. I think there's
some jealousy setting in because the only ratings they get
on her program on CNN are because of Scott Jennings.
And to his point, who was the guest on this
final show before the announcement was made one of the
most controversial, polarizing, divisive members of the entire Congress Pencil,
(08:26):
Nick Adam Schiff, And listen to him here, I wonder,
I wonder why this show doesn't get the ratings that
Gutfeld does and doesn't have that crossover appeal. Let's see,
as somebody of the right, like myself, or Christian or yourself,
how do you respond to this?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What is this? What are we hearing right here?
Speaker 13 (08:43):
The President, as you know, has been going after me
within the last couple of days, ever since I let
his first impeachment.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
He's threatened me with.
Speaker 13 (08:51):
Jail and prosecution and called me a trader, excuse me,
a treat and blah blah blah, he coursed Republicans in
the centrum in the House, and now the latest attack
on me. So I just want to direct this.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If this is the.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
Right camera or maybe that's the right camera camera there, Donald.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Piss off.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
And the crowd goes wild. Compare the ratings that let's
say Colbert got last night. So if if he had
had just a mild door open, a nudge for President
Trump himself to come on.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That show, you know what the ratings would be like
for that show.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
And by the way, Adam Schiff is enduring a pretty
severe investigation about mortgage fraud chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Anyway, Christian, what was that? What do we just hear there?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
That's what the show has been for the last eight
years maybe more. It's just a DNC platform. The jokes
all go one way. There's don't There's a reason why
the term clapter is suddenly in the vernacular, and it's
because it Stephen Colbert. He is the king of clapter.
It's really a shame and I even rostored it. But
this a few months ago. How the Daily Beast, which
is a pretty far left outfit, they said in their
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podcast that Stephen Colbert is no longer funny that's just it.
He's just no longer funny because the funny is not
the purpose. That's the whole thing about entertainment in Hollywood,
certainly during the woke era, and specifically about these late
night shows. It is not about entertaining. It is not
about making you smile as you drift off to sleep.
It is about political partisanship. That's what It's all about. Divisiveness, anger, rage.
(10:17):
And you know, I've been sampling Gutfield quite a bit lately,
and that show is certainly to the right, there's no
question about it. The jokes mostly lean that way, but
they do hit their own side from time to time,
and it's much more joyful. It's about conversation. It's about
snarking at each other. I mean, those hosts and co
hosts are actually harder on each other than anyone else.
(10:37):
It's fun. It's a reverend. It feels like a breath
of fresh air. There's nothing fresh about Colbert and now
he's going away.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Gutfeld is my favorite show, not just in late night,
but the one that I go to to watch, you know,
for a light moment, for Greg's tremendous talent and weaving
in the four panelists, and especially when he picks on
our good friend Jamie Lisso and says his name incorrectly.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Ad Christian's article about all of this you can read at.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Hollywood intoto dot com entitled are these Stephen Colbert's worst
late show Moments? Well, I've got one of those in
just a little bit. But let's stay on task as
to why this happened. A lot of speculation about it.
It's Brian Stelter, CNN brands impersonations good.
Speaker 14 (11:18):
From the optics standpoint. The timing could not be worse
for CBS. Colbert is such an outspoken Trump critic, He's
just back from vacation, and as he showed there on
Monday on his first night back from vacation, he's also
a thorn in his parent company's side. So this looks
to a lot of Colbert's fans like another form of
capitulation by CBS to the President of United States.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
And not just to his fans, of which I am
not one. I used to be Colbert rapport. I liked
that show when he kind of mimicked Bill O'Reilly. That
was smart, that was snarky, that was funny. He turned
it to himself and I don't like this guy. But
to Stelter's point, he's right. The timing is interesting to
say the least CBS paramount just got slapped with that
lawsuit because again, they're obsessed with Trump, the Trump Arrangement centerment.
(12:01):
It funnels in, and it focuses in, and it fuels
all of their motivations. So they had to edit the
Kamala Harrison interview deceptively because they wanted to make her
look good and they couldn't afford to make her look
bad and do anything that would help Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And this is the downward spiral.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Yeah, what's often not said about that whole imbrolio was
they had a transcript of that interview and they wouldn't
release it. I think they released it a few months ago,
but that was well after the election. So between the
obvious deceptive edits and the lack of a transcript, and
the fact that they often will share transcripts with other
big interviews with political figures, it's stunk.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It just stunk. They got caught.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
And one of the things about the Trump era, which
is spectacular, is that he calls people out, he holds
them accountable. When ABC News is saying he's a rapist.
He's a rapist. He sues them and he wins, or
they settle or whether you know, he fights back to
a night's library. So it's Trump being to fight back.
And there are things about Trump I don't like. We
(13:01):
can go through that, that's the story for other day.
But his willingness to CounterPunch. His willingness is not just
sit there and take it is what people on the
right need, and just people who are fair in decent
need don't just sit there and take it. Fight back,
otherwise it gets worse.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
My whole point is, if Trump's so bad, why do
you have to make things up exactly and spin things
and edit things.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And Rupert Murdock's about to get his ass sued.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
That's direct quote from Donald Trump, and rightfully so, because
the stupid Wall Street Journal decided they were going to
run with a cartoon that they allege Donald Trump drew,
which they refuse to show or share with the President.
To respond to that, he says he doesn't writing cartoons.
It's not his language, his love language or whatever, and
that he sent this to Jeffrey Epstein. They reported this
(13:45):
is fact. They're going to get sued. Trump's going to win.
The library is going to get another layer of gold
in it, and did Christian. I will go visit it
as it sets up shop. But here on the issue
of the business itself. John Hyloman, NBC News, And this
will lead me to the money quote that we're going
to hear from the all time great Johnny Carson.
Speaker 15 (14:03):
I think there's a consensus in the television business that
this generation of late night hosts Stephen, Jimmy, Jimmy and
Seth Myers, we're going to be the last. That they
would not that the economics for the reasons you were
talking about, because so much of the revenue and the
viewership is now moving into social platforms, not.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
To YouTube, and got that you wouldn't you wouldn't.
Speaker 15 (14:28):
Find us a successor to any of those guys. This
would be the last generation in those traditional seats.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
But why did it have to be this way, Christian,
I would pause it. No, it didn't have to be
this way.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
I would say, maybe only because there's so many other
changing elements within this landscape. Because you've got YouTubers who
can go faster, have smaller budgets. But it's also when
you start out, you say to half the country, go
fly at Kyrie. Yeah, you have done yourself an incredible disservice.
They have said, go away. And even Jimmy Fallon, who
is less political, less angry, more kind of cutesy, more
(15:02):
musical numbers watch his monologue.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
It is to the left, absolutely like ironclad. That's just
who he is. And so that's pushing them away too.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
What is one of Jimmy Fallon's most memorable episodes. It's
when Donald Trump was on and he must up his hair,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Happy next.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I know he caught a lot of help, but you
know what he should have done? Christian lean right into
that and go, yeah, so what, I'm a comedian.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I do funny things.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Donald Trump's a funny guy, and he could a counter
program to everything else that's going on over here with
Kimmel and Seth Myers and Colbert, and he didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And so what does he do?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
He just folds in and he ranks like, you know,
fourth or whatever it is on all these other guys
that are singing out of the same hymnal. So we
go to the great Johnny Carson and Mike Wallace sixty
minutes asked him really about this very topic, and we're
going back. This is like seventies or eighties when Johnny
was in his prime and just listened to the genius
of his response.
Speaker 16 (15:53):
People say he'll never take a serious controversy. Well I
have an answer to that. I said, no, tell me
the last time that Jack Benny red Skelton, Benny comedian
used his show to do serious issues.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But you and I do.
Speaker 16 (16:13):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal with serious issues.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
That's a danger.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's a real danger.
Speaker 16 (16:21):
Once you start that, do you start to forget that
self important feeling. That's what you say has great import
and you know, strangely enough, you could use that show
as a form you could sway people, and I don't
think you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Thirty seasons, this show lasted, and how prescient were those
words in that moment.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
It's shocking, is like you could say he could have
spoken those words yesterday.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, Yeah, he was right. He's the best.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Johnny Carson the King of Late Night for a reason.
And again, it was a different era. People had four
television stations on their sets. They didn't have alternatives like
social media like you mentioned YouTube. But I just think
that Guttfelds reinvented it. It's more of a panel. Oh
there is a studio audience, but they go through topics.
It moves pretty good pace. I think there was a
(17:05):
way to do this Christian and I think these comedians
they were so hell bent on making Trump their kind
of straw man for everything that that got old. And
I would tell you this, I've talked to people that
are on the left. They get sick of it too,
and it's no longer funny because that's just the same
note over and over.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I can't imagine enjoying that show, even like I said,
for our friends and left, of just sitting there and saying, oh,
I can't wait to see what he has to say,
because you know exactly what he has to say. You
know the angles, you know the arguments, you know the pitch,
you know the outrage. It's every single night. And during
the Biden years, he just told a few jokes about
oh Biden is old and he uses old timey words.
Isn't that adorable? Instead of saying, my gosh, this president
(17:45):
doesn't look like he's all there and maybe we should
do something about it. Because I'm a satirist and I
speak truth to power. He doesn't. He actually does a hunt.
He hosted a fundraiser for Colbert. Biden saw him up
close and said nothing. As for Jimmy Kimmel, by the way,
Jimmy Kimmel is the next shoot drop. His contract is
definitely coming up in the quasi in near future. He's
been a little fuzzy about it. There's no way that
(18:07):
ABC is going to sign him. I just, I just
it's almost impossible.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Bold hot take from Christian Toto And speaking of that,
will have a hot take from President Trump one of
our installments of that coming up in just a little bit.
Here's one more example. Stephen Colbert one of his worst moments,
kind of under the radar. But I saw this pop
up on my feed on X Claire Danes coming in
and talking about a project she was working on and
kind of embedding with the intelligence community. And then it
(18:31):
got into kind of a sticky wicket, and Colbert really
wanted to change the subject.
Speaker 17 (18:36):
My camp for US producers and writers and really yeah, yeah,
So we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and
talk to like real spooks and you know, people in
the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and
people who really.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
What do they tell you that Like, what's the most
surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or
something you would need to.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, every year it's different, right that for a while,
and the climate has been has changed. But this year
it was all about, you know, the distrust between the
administration and the intelligence world, and the intelligence community was
suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually start
shooting this episode.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
That topic. I mean, that's God, that's glaring, right, glaring.
I'm surprised a big hook didn't come out and drag
her off the stage.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Du You know, people criticize me, I'm a gen x there,
I'm stuck in my ways. I'm old and cadre like
my grandpa, maybe a little bit, But you can't tell
me that the Helcionic days of Johnny Carson as wistful
as we may be, and I know I'm stuck in nostalgia.
But there's a reason why Johnny Carson worked, there's a
reason why Leno and Letterman even worked. And where this
change was made, in my view, was an Obama was
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elected he could.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Not be touched. Kid Gloves couldn't go down that road.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
And then Trump comes in and the pendulum swung the
other way. And that's where we saw at the beginning
of the end for this type of franchise. Rip The
Late Show with Stephen Colbert or anyone else for that matter.
With Christian Tooto Hollywood and Tooto dot Com. I'm Ryan Schuling.
We went and saw a movie the other night. It
really kind of blew our sacks off, but not necessarily
in a good way. We'll talk about that and our
nominees for our Friday Fool of the Week still to
(20:19):
come here on the right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
Do you know how many people Barack Obama deported in
eight years.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm sure you're going to tell me, well, what do
you guess? I don't know, and don't care.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
You don't know and you don't care. I'm trying to
finish my sentence. You've just given me a lengthy monologue
attacking Donald Trump's the aggressive deportation policy, and I've simply
said to you, there was a Democrat, a black Democrat,
president of the United States for eight years. I'm simply asking,
(20:57):
given that you're obviously all over every d tale of
the Trump deportation policy and giving you on the airwaves
in America on a daily basis through Obama's tenure. How
many people did he deport in eight years?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I do not know. You'll tell me. I'm fad I'm
sure again it was probably more than a million people.
I'm quite certain. I think each two million, it was
three million. Okay, at your point being, what.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
My point being, are you as shocked by that as
you are claiming to be by Trump?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It is not deportation of them?
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Wait a minute, the majority, well Brown, my goodness, Joy Read,
talk about your all time backfires with Pierce Morgan.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
They're just leveling her and exposing her.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Really, Christians, we get to our Friday Fool of the
Week segment, Joy Read, our first nominee. She's a repeat
offender in this regard. But it's just again reveals to
me the surface level knowledge. But then also kind of
that tin can just kind of going off popping off.
Trump deportation's bad, But Obama, who called himself I believe
(22:04):
at one point the deporter in chief three million deportations,
of which I applaud you. The gal aliens, you're here.
You don't have to you don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here, get out. Why do they
only matter when Trump deports them? But same people, same
in the cities, same motivation. I think in a lot
of ways, they don't matter at all. For joy Read,
she doesn't care how many Obama deport.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Why if Trump said the sky was blue, she would
have an hour long segment saying it's not. It's very
It sounds cartoonish, it sounds like a silly thing to say.
But almost any position that he takes is the wrong position.
It could be celebrating a young child who's been battling cancer.
It could be mourning the loss of a person and
(22:48):
comforting that person's mother in her time of grief. No
matter what Trump does, they do the opposite, They claim
the opposite, they shriek the opposite. And but this is
really about, though, is that the joy Read to the
world are never challenged, never questioned, Nope, are never forced
to really back up their arguments. They don't have to
defend themselves in a way that's consequential. So then when
(23:11):
appears Morgan, who is not a conservative, but it's sort
of a fair mind, did he get a bounce between
the left and right. But he asks a very simple,
plain direct question that has consequences. She not only can
she answer, she wants to shuffle off the question right away.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
I'm sure you're gonna tell me. If it were Trump,
you'd be telling me. So why do you know those
details but not these? Over here? Joy read our first
nominee Friday Fool the week.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You can vote. Your vote matters, one person, one vote.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
We don't stuff the ballot box, we don't cheat elections
here five seven seven three nine. Representative Jeanie rask In
a similar scenario. Yeah, he goes on what he feels
is a friendly program. It's Joe Scarborough Morning Joe MSNBC.
Friendly to DEM's Joe at one time was a rhino
kind of moderate Republican representing Florida in the US House.
(23:59):
And he actually stumbles upon some journalism here. He goes, wait,
Epstein files, Okay, they've been around for a while. In fact,
Democrats controlled the White House and portions of Congress through
from twenty one to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Why didn't you go ahead and release them?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Then?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Representative Raskin, why.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
Didn't Democrats call far from twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 18 (24:19):
Five, So I mean you have to go back and
look specifically at particular prosecutorial decisions and what was taking
place in terms of the other cases. So I don't know,
we could try to reconstruct that record. But the point
is is that Donald Trump is the one who has
led the crusade to say that Epstein, who was his
(24:44):
very close friend, and there's all kinds of pictures of
them and so on, that Epstein was at the center
of this broad conspiracy. He's now in a position to
do exactly what he demanded, which.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Was to release all of the files.
Speaker 18 (24:57):
And so why is that not happenings That's the question
I can't answer for Merrick Garland or any of you know,
anybody else in the Department of Justice.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Huh. Joff Garbo sounds sad that he asked the question.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
By the way, he tripped up his fellow traveler and
he said, darn it, what did I just do?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
He feels terrible. He can you can hear the sadness
in his voice.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
What Raskin does There is two to four sentences of gobletbook.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
He's stalling, He's trying to find his footing.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
So he's piecing these bizarre phrases together into QUASEI sentences
that mean nothing, and then he pivots to Trump bad.
He's a very close friend of Jeffrey Epstein, which is
obviously not tripe. Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean it really is.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And again Coud flat footed didn't expect a question that would.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Actually challenge him.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Friday Fool the Week nominees continue. Representative Jamie raskin number two.
Joy read the first one with Christian Toto and Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We roll on.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
It's what a Scott MacFarlane CBS News, a serious news reporter,
and he had this take on the one year anniversary
of the attempted assassination of President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
For those of us there, it was such a horror
because you saw.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
An emerging America.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
And it wasn't the shooting, Chuck, this was I got
diagnosed with PTSD within forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have put on trauma leave.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Not because I think of the shooting, but because you
could you saw it in the eyes, the reaction to
the people.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
They were coming for us. If he didn't jump up
with his fist, they were going to come.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Kick I know President Trump nearly took one to the brain.
It just missed grazed his ear. But won't someone think
of the journalists Christian that were there that were scared
of the Trump supporters.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
My god, man, that bullet clipped that guy's ego and
it has never been the same.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I mean the fact he needed trauma, leave the fact
that he was PTSD. And again, not because he was
in a shooting situation, which is legitimate situation that would
scare me too, I'd be rocked by that, but because
because someone in the crowd looked at him and said, yeah,
you guys really made as possible. And I hate to
say it, they did make it possible. Their their rhetoric,
their rage, their fake news, their nonsense. There he's hitler,
(27:06):
He's hitler. They have made that environment. And I hate
saying that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Because I'm a free free.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Speech guy, because I want journalism to be good and
strong and true. But you can't live in America for
the last x amount of years and not realize that
they have set the stage for this man.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They just have just have President Trump, who was actually shot. Okay,
let's follow this up.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Do you think President Trump was diagnosed with PTSD or
put on trauma leave.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So he stood up, he raised his fists, he shouted, fight, fight, fight.
You and I were there together down in Colorado Springs
when this happened. By the way, he will rank back
on the campaign trail. Yeah, okay, okay, Scott my firelock.
I actually have a question for you quickly.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Didn't he say wear my shoes?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
That part of it, right, because I'm pretty sure it
was Ellen Bark And the actress was mocking that recently
on No.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
And they say that that is actually a response to
trauma and that moment that you're trying to focus on
things that you can control when all that can troll's
been taken away from you. It's a fascinating thing. And
you're right, No, I mean my shoes, my shoes.
Speaker 18 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
I think part of what he said to after was
he he could think in that moment, Christian that he
didn't want to be embarrassed by not having his shoes
on or walking away from that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He was cognizant of that.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
I mean, that's amazing to me, amazing how President Trump
responded to that. Truly, So, Seth, that's not Seth Scott
McFarlane CBS. It's not stuff we like. Seth another nomine
and I got to say that's that might be an
all timer.
Speaker 18 (28:28):
PAULA.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Kerger though PBS president defund public broadcasting. Folks, it finally
happened after Republicans Conservatives, well, we need to do fun
public broadcasting, the Corporation for Public broad and they never
did it. Republicans give Mike Johnson credit, give John Thune credit,
give President Trump credit. They just did it. Make it
on your own sink or swim PBS and NPR. But
(28:50):
Paul Kirker says that I don't know what they're talking about,
you know, mister Rogers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
She hides behind a little animal.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I don't think that Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood is a bias
program that teaches children basic skills around letters and numbers.
And when you look at the breadth of programming that
we are very much committed to serving all of America.
The news programming that we do represents about ten percent
of our broadcast schedule, and that includes the News Hour,
(29:20):
which I'm very proud of the excellence of the journalism
of that series.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
So I would push back.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
I always ask them for examples. People often struggle to
come up with examples of what really they're talking about?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Can you struggle for examples of bias from MPR, PBS? Christian?
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I struggle so many. I don't know how many I
should choose in anyone given moment. I want to pick
the strongest one. I don't want to give the B material.
I want the A plus material. By the way, who's
she asking that question to homeless people on the street?
Excuse me, sir, you look like you're a wise consumer.
What do you think about PBS and it's bias? Who
is she asking that question?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:55):
It is such a strawmand doesn't even begin to describe it.
And also these outl they're going to have that person on,
they should have a rebuttal, they should have some sort
of balance.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
They should have.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Red Steve, Steven L. Miller or Drew Holden. I mean,
there are so many people who could spend the next
sixteen hours describing the extreme bias of MPR and PBS,
and they won't do it because they can't because they know,
look at the answer.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
They don't want.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Paula Kerger, PBS president of they're nomine fool of the
Week and the aforementioned Drew Holden Stephen L.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Miller. You hear those two his guests on this program,
that's what we do here.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
And then finally, our own governor, in an interview with
Kyle Clark talking about the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary
bridge to Nowhere, he decides he's going to put on
an online poll.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
But why now?
Speaker 19 (30:38):
Is this what you should have done months ago before
you announced that you were going forward with a bridge.
Well we couldn't because there was no bridge for people
to vote on, right, So I mean it has to
be in sequence. The people would have not known we
were what we were talking about had we done this
three months ago, because there was no visuals, there was
no projects. So thanks to that, which is all very recent.
This is all what about a month or two people
(31:00):
have been out there. People have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know, it's great.
Speaker 19 (31:03):
You go down to corner bar, people say they love it,
people say they hey it, it's great. People are feeling
ownership and passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So what does that all mean and how do we
kind of decipher that into whether we do this or not?
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Christian fact check You and I may very well, go
to the corner bar this evening. Jd' spight shot my
favorite on a Rappaho, watchs and Tigers, watch some Yankees.
If we were to go to the bar there and
saddle up and turn to our fellow patrons and ask them,
what do you think about the Jared Polish vanity project
with the bridge yea or name?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
How many would even know what we're talking about?
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Oh boy, maybe you'd ask about meg It and Harry,
but get more answers that way.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
But Polist claims this is all the talk of the town,
the corner bar, cheers everything else.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's it's it's on the tip of everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, it really is, and I hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Take the online survey, by the way, and send Polis
packing on this one. So those are your nominees, Joy Read,
Scott McFarlane, Representative, Jennie Raskin, Paula Kergerbs President, and Jared Poulis,
Governor of Colorado. Cuff trice Is will get Christians vote,
Kelly's vote, my vote. When we come back, I gotta
submit mine for all of you five seven seven three
(32:09):
nine for you to chime in. Will close out the
right side of Hollywood for this week.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
After this.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Here, I got a call into the office about studies.
Speaker 13 (32:21):
Last night, the family was murdered, shootors on tribal ground.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is a Pueblo case. This is our crimes. Here,
get out of here. I'm running from there. Damas Camp.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Your own office going, but you're gonna run mine.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
There your streets to keep faithor.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Ted Garcia the man is simply keep shut this bitch, huck.
You want things simple and neat.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
There was some allegations made, allegations like what you were
in his house?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, here's a quote from you arm yourself. I don't
mean literal arms. I have motive. Oh we need haven't you?
Speaker 5 (32:54):
People are going to be looking here now. He's aggressive,
he's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He needs to be locked up.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Maybe he's pass mind this all time. We are in
a fight against evil.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
That is Eddington. Then, Christian and I just watched this
the other night. I think if we were Cisco and Ebert,
we might have a split verdict on this one. But
christ you just your reaction to that trailer, what that
represents in the context of the film that we watched.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
It's accurate and misleading.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Okay, that stuff's in there, but the flow of the
film really doesn't represent that. Now I have to say
I feel badly for the marketing team behind this movie.
This is a very, very tough sell, and I think
the box office predictions are terrible for this weekend for Eddington. Really,
I get it. It's all over the place. It covers
twenty twenty a part of our recent history that I
(33:52):
didn't want to relive, honestly, about BLM protests, about COVID
mandate lockdowns, masking up all that stuff, That's what this
is via a small New Mexico town going through the
worst of it. So having said all that, I found
the first half or third really brisk, funny, challenging, dark,
(34:13):
and while deeply political, it was a political to me
because I think the director Ari Aster is hitting all sides.
He's showing that he's just doing the best he can
to put it all out there, and I really felt he.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Was a neutral party, which I think helps the movie immensely.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
The movie is Eddington. It's set in I believe, a
fictional town of Eddington, New Mexico, but it mentions Governor
Luhan by name, somebody that Michael Brown Despises and his
visits to the undisclosed location in Taos. I just disclosed it.
Joaquin Phoenix plays the local sheriff, Pedro Pascal plays the
local mayor. Emma Stone plays the very disturbed wife of
(34:49):
the sheriff. There's a lot of interesting dynamics at play here.
I thought Joaquin Phoenix was fantastic, by the way, and
I want to draw a delineation between did I like
the film? Did I like the effort was made by
the director in how he constructed the film. That answer
is yes. Was I pleased with how it ended or
where it went in the third act?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
No?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I was just like Christian, it lost me and then
it's like, what the hell is happening here? Don't want
to give any spoilers out there, but I thought is
it worth the watch? And I'm going to answer that
with yes, because of the first act that Christian and
I agree was very good and it attacks that entire time,
and in a way it was kind of cathartic therapeutic
because you got to watch this and watch how ridiculous
(35:28):
mask mandates were. Social distancing was the mayor Pedro Pascal.
He's pushing for all the and why we've got to
follow the rules.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
What do I mean rules? These are out laws. People
have rights.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
That's what Joaquin Phoenix's character, the sheriff says, And that's
kind of our perspective on things that's represented, and the
whole notion that you can stop a virus with a
mask if only the other person's wearing a mask.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That was a scene in a grocery store.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
And it's exposed for how absolutely positively ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I enjoyed that part of it. Christian I did too.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I think we're actually more on the same page, and
they think one thing that was maddening to me, even
though you and I laughed a lot and we're just
awkwardly funny.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
You know, there are still some people who believe much
of the rhetoric in that film that was spoken by
the Pedro pascals of the film.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I just can't believe that. It's the six feet, it's
the masks.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You still see people wearing masks.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Oh yeah, absolutely, It's just stunning. So in that way,
it's sad. Not the film's fault, it's reality's fault. But
I just we lost our minds. We just lost our minds,
and especially the young people in the movie who looked
so tortured, so sad, so desperate for something, you know what.
They were locked down, their lives were disrupted in an
aggressive fashion, and I have a lot of sympathy for
(36:41):
them as well.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'll say it this way. I don't think this is
a spoiler.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Everything's kind of going the Sheriff's way on the COVID mandates,
and people are liking him because he's pushing for freedom
and individual rights and you can't mask people up and
prevent them from shopping and living their day to day
lives and eating food. There's a really touching scene along
those lines. But it all turns when the young people
in town start protesting about the George Floyd death and
(37:06):
the reaction to that, and the film takes a turn there,
and it takes you out another turn after that, and
then at the end it takes a really dark turn,
a lot of turns, a lot of turns, So buckle up,
and I would say it's worth the watch. That would
be me in the theater up to you if you
want to wait for it to come out on a video.
That might be the ultimate verdict right there, that's Eddington
just released in theaters. Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal and Emma Stone. Finally,
(37:28):
Christian your vote for Friday Fool of the Week on
a narrow this field down?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Oh it's a tough one.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
It's between two, Okay, I will say for sure, the
joy Read is classic epic.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I mean, she's a chronic winner in this category.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Scott McFarland with his PTSD and for the reasons he's
citing PTSD.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I don't want to diminish PTSD, it's a.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Real thing, but his rationale, Wow, just wow, Kelly, who
you got?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Well you can't vote for the same one. We need
three here, So who's your second place?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Who's the idiot?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, that doesn't narrow it down unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Okay, you know the Congressman.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Rot Raskin, Okay, put you down for Representative Jamie Rasking
and called out by Joe Scarborough. And just because I
once worked in public radio, it's just especially delicious for
me this week that Paula Kerger, PBS president, tries to
hide behind Daniel Tiger and has no idea why people
think public broadcasting is biased one way or the other.
Well sink or swim find out for yourselves. Rely on
(38:30):
your coastal liberal elite turtleneck sweater wearing viewers and listeners
like you that donate and see if you can make
it on that and maybe underwriters too. So those are
your final nominees. Scott McFarlane CBS News claimed he had
PTSD from being at the Butler assassination and that he
was put on trauma leave and that the Trump the
(38:51):
supporters they were coming for him. They're blaming him. What
about Scott McFarlane, what about the poor journalists?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
President Trump got shot? Yea, yeah, okay, we'll talk about
that later.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
And Jamie Raskin fumbling around when Joe Scarborough asked why
didn't then the Dems call for the Epstein files to
be released when Biden was president? Didn't have a good answer,
And the aforementioned Paula Kerger Christian, thank you always for
joining me on the right side of Hollywood and for
all of you you can vote five, seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Second hour, straight ahead.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Kelly Caucerra slides into the shotgun chair. We'll have plenty
more for you on Ryan Schuling Live after this
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